Bailey Baldassari: Welcome to the Chaotic Runner Podcast, where the miles are messy, the stories are real, and perfection got left at the starting line. Whether you're chasing a personal best, chasing your sanity, or just chasing your kids around the house, you have found your people here. This isn't a podcast about having it all figured out. It's about showing up anyway. We're talking running, life, failures, victories, and Ugly finish line cries, hilarious disasters, and everything in between. Because sometimes the strongest runners are the ones who almost quit but didn't. So lace up, turn the volume up, and let's embrace the chaos together. Laugh a little harder, run a little farther, and remember, the road doesn't care where you started. It only rewards the courage to keep moving. Hi, I'm Bailey, and this is the Chaotic Runner Podcast. Let's run with the chaos together.

The Chaotic Runner: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Chaotic Runner podcast. I have a very familiar voice here with me today. I have Stacy here again. Hey everybody. so today it's gonna look a little different for all the listeners out there. So instead of learning all about my guest, since we have already met her, we're going to be talking about the joys of summer running and running in the heat. because nothing is more appropriate than talking about that than at the end of summer when things start to cool off, apparently. Cause we've had some pretty wicked hot runs this summer, I found. absolutely. The evening runs are the hardest. my job has made it so that I'm unable to run first thing in the morning when it's super cool, which makes it extremely difficult. but yeah, we end up walking, I feel more than we're running. Well it's hard because it's way too hot. Yeah, it's it's hot and the air is thick. It's hard to breathe. So we do what we gotta do to be able to make it to the end. And if we gotta walk, we gotta walk. Absolutely. Yeah, I I know even yesterday it wasn't terrible temperature wise, but I don't know if the air was just really still and thick because it was supposed to rain all day, which it did. Eventually definitely did. Eventually. And I was kinda hoping it would rain while we were out there so we could cool off a bit, but alas that did not happen. I was hoping the same thing. Yeah. But it was it was there was a lot of the swas going on, like there were swass, swoobs, and everything else in between. Exactly. Exactly. Definitely a sweaty day. Yeah. so I I figure today we'll kinda talk about a bit of a survival guide for people for anybody interested in running outdoors, 'cause that's what's available for them. so I know we have kind of a survival kit any time we go out on a long run. So I I don't know what you would recommend for anybody going out on a long hot run or even a short hot run. Like I don't I know what I would recommend, but do you know what you would recommend? I have definitely found that a higher sodium hydration drink has it maybe doesn't necessarily make me feel better during but don't feel like a bag of crap after. And that's extremely important too. I'm not like a zombie after it definitely helps keep the hydration up, but definitely a higher sodium electrolyte. Yeah. For your for your run. And don't ever forget a drink. Yeah. You might think it's just a five K. But it's a very hot 5k. It's it's hot out. Yeah. Always take hydration. Yeah. If you're sweating, bring hydration. And that's that's a no questions asked kind of thing. Exactly. And not just water. Yeah. Always electrolytes. Yeah. My my brother, when he was on here last time, which by the way, guys, if you are looking into an episode about burnout, the grappling hook method on the previous episode is a great one to listen to. so he kind of talked about an incident where he was just pushing himself too hard in the heat while he was playing baseball. And I wasn't there for this game. I don't know where I was. I think I was having my teenage angsty period where I I I just didn't go. I refused to go for whatever reason. And he had thrown up and passed out in the middle of the outfield because it was so hot and he was pushing himself so much and he did not pack water with him. so I mean I didn't know this, my mom and dad had never told me about it, but my parents also don't really believe in the power of water sometimes, let alone Gatorade or Power Aid. But even just having a power aid somewhere along your route if you don't want to carry something with you, might help. But I yeah, definitely packing the water and carrying a bottle with you. That's that's definitely a scary moment. Like to be touring up and passing out because of the heat and pushing yourself too much in the heat. That and that's definitely a thing. If it's too hot out, just go out for a casual run. Walk if you have to. Don't push yourself to extremes just because you're training for a race. It's not gonna make you better by almost killing yourself. Yeah. take it easy. You're out there doing it anyways. You're putting on the mileage and yeah, be good to your body. Yeah, your body is so So intelligent with being able to tell you when something's not quite right. If it's telling you like, hey, we need to take a break, like slow it down, taper it down, listen to it. Absolutely. Like we we know of a few people that still run a ridiculous amount of kilometers, and we just kind of shake our heads and are like, my gosh, I hope they're gonna be okay. And I mean, in the end they are they wind up being okay, but they're they're packing. hydration mix with them, but at still at the same time it's It's it's it's never worth the risk as far as I'm concerned. And come race day, obviously you have to train in all different types of weather, whether it be snowy, icy, rainy, whatever. You've got to train in everything 'cause you don't know what race day is gonna bring. But if it's gonna bring a really hot, cinky day, that's the one I would be more worried about than any other weather. Yeah, exactly. I if You haven't done any heat training of any sort. Like yeah, if you sign up for a summer run and you haven't done any summer running, you're gonna wind up in big trouble. Absolutely. Because you're not prepared. Like you definitely do have to learn how to adapt in those conditions for sure. Like I I found, I think gosh. The the last two races that we did, the Meaford and the Shore to Shore were probably the hottest races I've ever done. And I know that the Huron Shores run in Southampton has w had in the past been pretty hot. The last two years have been pretty cool and ideal. But yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that we hadn't been running in the summer, I think I would have been in big trouble if I had not prepared myself for it. I know, right? It's it's as much as running in the heat can suck, it's it's a good thing also. Yeah. just show up. Yeah, just show up. I mean, there have been some runs where we have all been like, you know what, it's way too screaming hot. so I guess there is kind of a limit where if it's like forty two degrees and it's severe humidity, then yeah, don't do it. Or if it's really smoky out, don't do it. Just go for an ice cream. Yeah, just go for an ice cream. There's no shame in ice cream. Everything it makes it so much better. Exactly. Absolutely. Go for a walk then. Just go for a walk, ice cream. if it's super hot, we try and find the shadiest route possible. if we can. Yeah. And there's definitely lots of shady routes where we live. So definitely shady route if you can. And yeah. Make it shorter. You you got out there and that's all that really matters sometimes. Yeah, and that's what you should be patting yourself on the back for, 'cause not everybody is going to opt to do that. Like sure there there are other options like tracks, indoor tracks and treadmills, but I don't know. I I can't I can't personally do that. I feel like I'm a hamster on a wheel when I'm on a treadmill. And I get I find them extremely boring. five K feels like 30 K. Yes, it does. and I I find I you know sometimes I scuff my shoes when I'm tired outside while tripping on a treadmill is way more embarrassing. yeah. Yeah, there's everybody else around you watching. And you know what you fly. Yeah. yeah. I actually have an incident where the first time I ever went to a gym when I was a teenager, I thought I would impress the people around me because you know, teenagers, they they always are thinking about what other people think of them. Absolutely. It's it's awful. And I cringe over the stuff I did as a teenager. And I'm like, if I could go back, I would smack myself. I would smack past me and be like, cut it out. I know, right? so I was on the treadmill and this is when I first started running, and I wasn't I didn't have the endurance for running fast and far. Not that I run very fast when we go far to begin with. but I cranked up the treadmill to some ridiculous speed. I think it was above six. dear. And I wasn't paying attention to where my feet were going and I tripped over my own two feet and I just went flying right off and right into the bikes behind me. wow. And of course there was like twenty people in that section and they're all looking at me as I'm like toes up and I'm like, my God, what just happened? Before it said in like, ouch. Okay, that hurts. So it just wanted the floor to open up and swallow you. Exactly. Yeah. It was devastating for me and my teenage mind. It was not good. Tread mills should never be in front of other equipment. They should honestly be by the wall. Yeah. But a padded wall. Yes, a padded wall. Absolutely yeah. So if you f you h have some sort of impact, there's not a residuating thud as you hit the wall. Enough room so that you can get away from the moving track, but then a padded wall. Yes, exactly. for sure. Have you ever had any incidences like that? unfortunately, no. No, I haven't. We'll say what do you mean unfortunately? I would say fortunately. No, I have never flown off a treadmill. thank goodness. Yes, thank goodness. yeah. No, no, I haven't, honestly. I guess maybe I was definitely not working out or doing any type of exercise as a teenager. Growing up sports were for boys. So we didn't we didn't get to do those things. So it was never anything that piqued my interest. which is a good thing. I guess I didn't fly off a treadmill or or Yeah, or or many of the other things. as an adult was when I started after kids. Yeah. yeah, working out, lifting weights and then getting into running. Now I just need to get back into the weights along with my running and everything will be great. But yeah, no, I haven't I haven't had any incidents and let's keep it that way. Yes. Let's keep it that way. We will duct tape you up and bubble wrap and Yeah, I know, right? Everything will be okay. I I swear there are some days where I just I just need to do that for myself too is just wrap myself up in bubble wrap and duct tape and hope for the best. Because I know this week I've messaged you for a ride and because I I I've been feeling like a hazard to myself. Like I'm bumping into things. I'm running over things. I'm not paying attention to things that I should be. Like it's I don't know. Exhaustion. Ready for a vacation. Absolutely. Like after this weekend I am not getting up early for anything. Story Rocket. you're gonna have to wait. Yeah. The dog is gonna have to wait for his pea break and his walks and everybody's just gonna have to hold their horses. Yep. Absolutely. Time to take care of you for a couple of weeks. Yeah. And and that's and that kind of set like that's kind of something we did kind of briefly touch base on is just listening to your body and I think My body's telling me that, hey, it's time to, you know, hoo hoo, time out. Yeah. Yep. Time to regroup. Yep, regroup. And you'll come back fresh and in a better mood and yeah. Maybe not be a danger to myself and others around me. It's still okay if you ask me for a ride though, 'cause that means I go to. Yeah, dragging you down there. It's kind of our our thing, right? It gets me thinking, okay, guess what? I'm not backing out a run tonight because I gotta pick up Bailey and we're gonna get there together and we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it no matter what. And we've been it's been such a small group during the summer, I've been finding. Like I remember I think last year was a much bigger group of people. Yeah, I was training for a marathon last year. I did have a different kind of work thing going on. So was able to do morning runs. Which I was definitely grateful for in the summertime. Yes, absolutely. But I found that there was so much more people reaching out in the afternoon for afternoon runs. Yeah. but they're just not this year. Yeah. Either people are away on vacation or we've had quite a few injured people too. And Yeah, and just people doing other things like into other sports or they're going in the morning. But even then there's there's one person I'm thinking of in particular and she she has run a couple of times in the morning, but I haven't necessarily seen them on Strava lately, but I mean it is what it is. Like Yeah, it's just one of those summers I guess. But you and I are out there. Yep. we have to. We have to so that it's easier for us come September when the weather is better and we haven't lost our fitness over the summer, being lazy. Yeah. Not that they're being lazy. They're just busy with other things. Yeah. you just gotta make whatever work best for you. Absolutely. Because life happens. Yep, life does happen. And you just need to kind of figure out what works best for your timing and everything. Like there are some people, yeah, they do have the luxury of being able to run in the morning. And in the summertime, that's probably the best time is going early in the morning when The sun isn't out and absolutely quite as intense. and but I mean, if you have to run in the afternoon, you have to run in the afternoon and you just gotta adjust accordingly. Like if you were originally planning to do a ten K, sorry, but that ten K is probably not going to happen if it's thirty five degrees outside. Yep. And if it is, it's probably gonna be a water run. Yeah, it's gonna be you're gonna have to slow her down just a little bit. You're not gonna be going at your race pace for sure. I don't even think I have a race pace. I my race paces are so sporadic, I couldn't even identify which one would be my race pace. Nope. And and the way you feel day to day can be different. exactly. Especially being a female too. Like hormones really come into play. Like I know that's been our problem this week. It's been That's been it's been raging, spiteful like yesterday's run, I know I was I don't know about you, but I was just fueled off of pure hormones and spite. Yeah, just just for that burst and then I was worn out. I had to take a walk break. Yeah again. Longest half half marathon ever, Bailey. We just won't go around trying to hold that record. Well, we'll break it. We'll break it. We will break it. Like the next time we do a half marathon, it's gonna be cooler and a little bit better. Absolutely. And maybe not so many things coming into play. I I fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. I but again, things do happen and you just kinda have to roll with it. And when we were when we were running, I I don't know, it felt good for me. I don't know about you. And then the moments that it didn't feel good, we just had to Kind of take a break. The air was thick. It was. Like I mean, at one point the breeze was great. Yeah. And then we get into a spot where there was no breeze. Which was by the water. Yeah, exactly, right? Which I remember. And then there's some stinky parts along the water. my god. I don't know what's been going on along that way, but it is like a a layered smell system. It's awful. Yeah. I think you can taste it. yeah, yeah. At one point I I had a big inhale and I swear to God I tasted like layers of this crud that was in the air. And I did have to spit on the side of the road because I I could just taste it on my mouth and I'm just apologizing, like, my god, I'm so sorry. That was frozen. It was gross. It's been it's been most of the summer that it smelled so horrible. So I feel like somebody's not doing their job. No. No. Either that or they're way behind and overwhelmed or somebody's on vacation on that team. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Everybody's off on stress leave. Yeah. Yeah. Well, sh shit hit the fan, literally. Apparently. Went splat. Yeah, it went s it was a huge splat. Ugh, I don't want to picture that in my head. No, no. We try and avoid running in that area, but we do we do love a certain trail. We love running from that trail. And and then we ran up a another beautiful area. Get to see some wonderful, beautiful horses. so it's just a really nice run until we get to that spot. Yeah. Yep. And then there was that stretch where we had to deal with the slopey, slopey bullshit. But even then that stretch isn't so bad as long as it's not an out and back. Yeah. 'cause it's not like you have to deal with the traffic and the slope. the whole time you're out there. It's just that little stretch to get from that town back into our town. Yeah. And then you're done. Yeah, it's definitely not my favorite area to run. It's hard in my hips, it's hard in my ankles since I am a little bit older. but yeah, and it's it's not exactly exciting either. I like the hills and you know, just the different scenery. Yeah. So and that one just seems to be slightly boring and straight. Yeah. Very. With really sharp corners at random points. And I I know in the be when we were in the really pretty section with all the horses, there was a couple of sharp corners where we were like, my god, car Yeah. You almost wanted to dive into the ditch. It we almost did a couple of times. Like it was pretty pretty close. They they drive faster than they should be. And then They get caught off guard when they see us. Yeah. And put on the brakes and try and get over. But yeah, something else is coming the other way. Yeah. It's a little harder in that in that aspect. But thank God you wear you wear bright colors. I need to start finding more brighter colors to wear because I'm always in black. You are. So I'm like, mm, pink shirt today. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll just put you in the front. you get out there, Stacy. Yeah. And keep us safe. I know, right. Well, hopefully. Yeah. Well, you're also you're also really feisty too, where if somebody really, really fucks up in a vehicle where they get too close or they're going too fast, you give them like a really big sarcastic thumbs up with and you do this face too where it's like, and it's like, boy, I hope they don't come back for us. I know, right? But it's like seriously, guys respect work. We're allowed to be out there too. Respect us. Like who is going to win this fight? You are going to go to jail and we are going to go to mm, hopefully not the morgue, but Yeah. so yeah, like I I d I just don't understand why people are in such a hurry to To act like that. I know, right? Like I know they feel like they can drive like a lunatic on the back roads. Well maybe not necessarily because maybe somebody else is out there. Maybe somebody with their child. Yes. Right? And and what happens, you know, you have to you have to be cautious, and observant when you're out there. And us being runners, I feel that we maybe pay a little more attention when we're out there and we move over and we slow down when we see somebody out walking with their dog. Their children are out running and stuff, we kind of respect that because we would appreciate that respect too. Yeah. And the summers are so busy on the roads too. Like in town here we have a lot of people in various situations that are everywhere. And then the roads, we have a lot of drivers and yeah, we just all got to watch out for each other. And that's what I really like about running in a group too is that we're all watching each other's backs. Like somebody who's up front, if they see a car coming, they'll let the people behind them know, like, hey, there's a car coming. And same thing with the people in the back. Like we let them know, like, hey, there's a car coming from behind. Like Yeah. And and we all kind of move over and and it's safer in numbers. Exactly. yeah, running alone is maybe not the safest where we live. Yeah. there is some scary situations where you really wouldn't want to be alone. Yeah, for sure. Maybe nothing would happen, but it's not exactly worth the risk. Yeah, you just never have our running shoes on and we could probably move faster, but it's not really worth the risk. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's safety in numbers. and it's always more fun to run with a friend. Yeah, exactly. You get to vent with people and exactly feel emotionally lighter afterwards because it's like, I just trauma dumped on the person next to me. I know, right? So much better. It's it's it's necessary at the best of times. It is, absolutely. And it just makes makes life so much better. absolutely. It I know I always look forward to that time when I can put my gear on and I mean I say I look forward to it, but there are some days where I'm just kinda like, I don't really want to go, but I know once I get there I'll have a lot of fun. Yep. And we feel better after. Yeah, exactly. My personality's not so ugly. afterwards. what was prob probably the hottest run for you? The hottest and hardest. I'm gonna say last summer. Last summer? Last summer. Our thirty two K. yeah. On that stretch we said we hate so much. Yes. And we did it out and back twice. And it was right it was twenty degrees when we started and thirty by the time we were finished. Yes, that's right. And we ran out of hydration and we had a friend drive us out more hydration. Like when you dump half the water over your head, yeah, put the other half in your bottle. And and we were drinking heavy electrolytes that day. Yeah. And that kind of stuff. So it was it was just it was a crazy run, but it was the l the last long run before my very first marathon. Yeah. So it was super important. and then you got to go into a taper phase too afterwards, which is it was lovely. So hot. It was so hot that day. It was definitely my hardest, hottest run. I I remember grateful that marathon wasn't that hot. Yeah. yeah. Like you were definitely prepared for anything at that point. Like I I remember that winter it was a very hard winter. we've had our adversities this last winter, but that winter was very hard and the spring was very wet. And yeah, that that was a very hot run that you had to do. Yeah. And it was it was unreal. Yeah, and I I remember you were out of hydration. I was on the struggle bus because I had never ran that long before. No. Like I had done my first half marathon that summer and That was the longest I ran. So around twenty-three kilometers, everything started to hurt on me. Like my hip all the way down to my ankle on my right side started to really hurt. And I was hobbling the rest of the way. And you want to talk about being driven by spite. I was driven by pure spite over the fact that I was hurting and I'm like, I am going to finish. And then I would have to walk and I'm like, I'm not going to finish. And then I saw your vehicle come around with our friend and I'm just like, I am done. Tapping out, tapping out tapping out, tapping out, listen to my body here. Body's telling me no. Mind is telling me yes, but my body's telling me no. I know, right? Yeah. That was very disheartening. But yeah, you did awesome for that 32. Thank you. Thank you. It took a long time. Longer than I was hoping, but But you got you got there. I did. Yeah, and it was a very hot day. And the perfect perfect example of when you need to take a break, you need to take a break, and you'll get there when you get there. I think I've I've had a pretty hot run this summer and it was I don't think you were there. You were you weren't feeling that great that day, so I ran with somebody else. Actually I ran with three other people and they're pretty pretty fast and intense people. And it was just one of those runs where I was not feeling great on it. And I kept having to stop and walk. I'm like, I need I really need to stop for walk break. And then they kind of beetled ahead. One of them did eventually start walking beside me, and she was getting really concerned because I was I was getting really dizzy at one point. Yeah. And I was like sweating from every pore on my body, like everywhere. It was not pretty at all. No. And my hydration wasn't doing it for me. It was also a flavor that I've overused and I was starting to feel nauseous because I was so sick of the taste of it. Yeah, it happens. It does. And you just gotta shake it up every once in a while. Literally and figuratively. I know, right? But yeah, buy a few flavors of the brand that you like. I and even play around with a few. Get some sample packs. Until you find something that works for you. And then once you know, you don't have to commit to a large 30 serving tub of something that you absolutely hate. Exactly. Which is my mistake that I made. Because blue raspberry, not for me, apparently. I'm all about the citrus. Not anymore, Not anymore, like Christ. but yeah, it was just one of these runs where the other people in the group they kept adding on. And then they would add on more kilometers. And then they were adding on more kilometers. And eventually, the lady who was with me, she's like, That's enough. We're we're done. We're we're going back. Yeah. And we kind of got the what do you mean we're going back? And I'm like, I'm you guys keep going. I'm going back. I'm tired. I'm done. It is so hot. It was like it was close to 38 degrees with the humidex that day. And it wasn't smoky. I found I was still kind of able to run when it was smoky. Like we we ran one evening when it was smoky. Definitely did. Yeah. not that I recommend it for a lot of people. Like if you do have breathing conditions like asthma and other things, you you know your body best. If it's not recommended for you, then find another way to be active. But yeah, we We ran in a s on a smoky day and it wasn't terrible temp wise. It was still hot, but not bad. We tried to push it till the evening later. Yeah, much later. And that's when the smoke came out, unfortunately. It wasn't smoky during the day, but it did come out and and we did it. We didn't push ourselves crazy hard and we just yeah. Did a nice light eight, I I think I remember. Yeah, easy eight. Easy. What do they call that? Easy eight K. Yeah. Yeah, and that's just just kind of what you gotta do. You just gotta pivot every once in a while. We've we maybe do it a little more than the average Joe come summertime, but Yeah. But again, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's we're still showing up and in my books that's what matters. Exactly. for sure. Do you have a favorite electrolyte powder that you're using right now? Yeah, actually I got it at the Ottawa Marathon at the expo. Mm-hmm. and it's bricks. And it's a watermelon apple flavor. It's not strong flavor. Yeah. But it's a higher sodium and there is some carbs. but I'm really enjoying it for those hot, sweaty days. it's definitely something I will be getting more of. yeah, and it's not super strong. It's not super salty and it's not super strong flavored. Yeah. but I love it. Yeah. I think it's like thirty, I don't know, is it thirty milligrams? I don't know, of sodium. Okay. Okay. Which is great. So a fair fair amount of sodium in there. it does. It helps me feel less crappy. Yeah. Yeah. Just replaces all the stuff that we've That we've lost because you know we we can be pretty sweaty bitches afterwards. My dog. Yeah. I I know my I also wear a among my black outfit, I wear a black baseball hat when I run. And yesterday after we came back from our run, I my dog is going absolutely crazy and licking my leg. And I take my hat off and it's white from all the sweat. And I'm like, I must be very, very salty. I'm very well seasoned right now. Exactly. right now I'm really into the scratch electrolyte powder. And it also has carbs in it and it's fairly light tasting. it took a little while for my stomach to get used to it because I wasn't drinking a hydration mix with carbs in it. So when I reintroduced the carbohydrates back on my long runs. It it just kind of messed with things a little bit and there was a very close call. which you can apparently pull your abs from shitting too hard. On another episode. On another episode of shit happens part two I I swear to God my insides were just Trying to hang on to everything is I'm anyway, expelling All the things that I have ever eaten in my entire being. Yeah. It does happen. So no, be cautious on what you introduce. Exactly. Introduce things gradually. or in shorter runs. Or in shorter runs, yeah. Yeah. Or plan a route with a washroom on said shorter runs when you're introducing these things. But sometimes heat can just wreak havoc on your stomach. it's Sometimes my stomach just doesn't like the really hot runs and I don't feel so great. so yeah, sometimes that happens too. Yeah. along with the hydration mix from bricks, they also because it's pure maple syrup, we we have been doing the ginger maple syrup nutrition gels. I shouldn't even say it's a gel. It's it's just pure maple syrup with ginger in it. And it and you have that while you're on your run as a form of energy to keep going. And I really, really enjoy the ginger. And any of the bricks. I like the one with the seat salt too. and the blueberry one too. We haven't been able to get a hold of the blueberry one lately. but yeah, bricks are my go to. I don't seem to like any other ones. it's not chemical, so it's pure maple syrup. And It's gentle on the stomach. Just need a pancake in my pocket and I'm good to go. Yeah, there's your form of carbs right there. But I know, right? I mean, people do eat strope waffles on runs and I mean, why not a pancake? Exactly. I find the stroke waffles a little dry. Yeah, I I have enough of a hard time swallowing some of the nutrition stuff, so Yeah, so I don't even bother with that stuff. But yeah, the Ginger one I find really helps my stomach. Like I'll have that first before all of my other gels and goos and whatever I have in my pocket. Because sometimes I carry a mixed bag of stuff, which may not help very much, but yeah, it's it's like I'm not that daring. Yeah, it's it's cheating the fates as I'm doing it. And it's like, hmm, what can I really do to fuck myself up today? I'm gonna pack this and I'm gonna mix it with that and hopefully I don't explode. Yeah. See if I don't ship my pants today. Yeah, and if I don't, there we go. There's a combo that's a winner. Nine times out of ten. It's not that way. No, no. No, it's not. To me, it's not worth tempting. but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I find especially during the summer, like saltier things is something that I'm craving. And like the day before a long run, I'll have like really salty things. I maybe need to look into doing that. I d I'm not much of a chip girl and that kind of thing. I'm more of a sweet girl. maybe I need to eat a little bit more higher sodium day before a long run, which might even help too. I mean, I I know that's what one of our friends had me recommended when we went to the chili half. Like she says that she likes to eat French fries before the day before a long run and What do we do? We went out for French fries that day. We did. Yeah. We did. And it was damn good. It was. There's nothing wrong with now. That's a s that's a salty thing. I can totally get into. Yeah, and that's my that's my go-to as well. And I'm I have learned that popcorn is a no for me. no? Yeah. It's too fibrous and and I love popcorn. I will have it the day of a run, like the afternoon after a run. But I can't have it the day before because it just makes things move along a little too smoothly. Or not smoothly, or not smoothly. It depends on how you look at it. Like if you're just sitting still or standing still, yes, things move very smoothly. But when when you are out there and there is no washroom in sight, it's not smooth. Not smooth. It's kind of a bumpy ride. One we don't like. Yes, absolutely. But it does happen. Yeah, i I mean, it's it's incredible how much the heat does kind of affect your body. I know I I feel bad every time I get into your vehicle because I I feel like I'm wrecking your seats half the time. There was one day you could see my sweat marks as I got up out of the seat. And then I got out when I got I just went in and got Lysol wipes and took care of that. Okay. I'm glad it wasn't just me. But yeah, it was just funny because you could see the white marks from my sun block as I'm as I had left the sweat mark. yeah. yeah. It was a grody day. And it's funny because it really I d it did really didn't feel like it was worse than any others, but apparently it was. Yeah, we had run it felt like we had run in much hotter, but that day for some reason was very sneaky heat. It was. I don't know if it was What route did we do that day? Did we run through the park that day? We did. Okay. It was those little rolling hills then. Musta been. Must have been. We'll blame it on that. I I blame it on the hills every time. So before we close it off, what would you recommend for the listeners out there for running in heat, running in adverse conditions, especially during the summer? Easy on yourself. you're just getting out there and doing it. And if it doesn't go as your plan says so, it's okay. You still got out there and tried. Definitely, definitely hydrate, always, always. and your higher sodium, but don't be hard on yourself. Yeah. Consistency is definitely key. But sometimes you do have to pivot and you do have to be flexible with things because not Every day is going to be the perfect conditions. No. And as as humans, we're gonna have really good days and we're gonna have really shit days and we're gonna have so so days. And you just kinda have to not beat yourself up when you have the so so and the shit days. Literally and negatively. Because then unfortunately they're gonna happen. Unfortunately. Yeah. It does at this end. Like you your body has other plans sometimes. Yeah, like you can do everything right in the book. Like you can have your nutrition down on point and you could be sleeping the total amount of sleep that you need. You could be well hydrated and you could still have an awful run for whatever reason. And that's that's okay. It's really hard though to Get out of that headspace though. When that does happen. Absolutely. Too hard on yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely don't be too hard on yourself. You're out there, you're doing it. Just roll with whatever the world has got for you. With that being said, guys, I wanna thank you. I wanna thank you again for coming on the podcast again. It's always great to have you. I know we have had some pretty crazy experiences, so I know, and hopefully we have lots more. yeah. We it it's always a crazy day. And we'll and we're running in the rain tomorrow, no matter what. Yes, exactly. Water spouts, torrential downpour, it'll be fine. Yep. We'll stay away from trees if there's lightning. And Yeah, it'll be good. It'll be good. And just run up the middle of the road. Yeah, exactly. And maybe just have somebody on speed dial just in case we need rescuing. I know, right? My shoes could use a washing. I know, I know I mine Definitely could. My my hat definitely can use a wash right now. I know, right? Yeah. Mine's not so white anymore. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I might ha have to do a load of laundry and throw it in there. Yeah, just just a little bath. It'll be fine. Everything's fine. All right. Thank you so much again for coming on the podcast today. and I hope everybody has a wonderful day. Absolutely. Keep running. Yep. Keep on running with the chaos guys. If you like what you're hearing and want to be part of the chaotic runner community, you can now subscribe to a weekly newsletter at the chaoticrunner.substack.com/slash subscribe, where you will get bonuses from each episode that come with tips, tricks, recipes, sent right to your inbox. You can also comment and be part of the community and help inspire others. You can also send an email directly to me at the chaoticrunner podcast at gmail.com where you can send your stories from the good, the bad, to the very, very cringy, to the absolute downright hilarious. Because again, you never know who you're going to inspire with your stories. And you never know if they may be on the next podcast episode.

Bailey Baldassari: I just want to start by giving a big thank you to everybody who tuned in to today's episode of the Chaotic Runner Podcast. Now, while we like to give our opinions, we are not a substitute for professional medical advice. If you wish to start a new healthy active regime, please make sure that you are contacting your doctor or physician. And with that being said, be kind yourself, be kind to each other, and we will catch you guys on the next one. Take care, y'all.