Michy: as soon as I off the airplane, I just went directly to the event space. could not, I couldn't wait. I couldn't like go and drop my bags and wait to get over there. ⁓ And honestly, walking in, was such a gorgeous space and it felt ⁓ like a place where deserved to live. And I think that's what stood out to me so much about it is it wasn't the sort of ⁓ sterile open space. ⁓ felt. ⁓ alive just from the moment of walking in when there was like three people inside. it honestly, it was just such a joyous feeling the entire weekend and just watching the crowd and watching people laughing and running and hugging each other because you know, they're people that they've only ever seen online or, you know, watching people get teary eyed over fragrances just it it moved me so deeply and really it's like this is why this community is so special. It's why we do what we do and yeah, it was just, it was an amazing feeling the entire weekend. I'm still riding a high and it's been a month.

Josh: Yeah, I, um, to anyone who doesn't know me personally, I am a military kid. So I was the first person in the building on Friday morning. Uh, I beat Kyle even to the ex-bus location. And, I was part of the volunteer group that was helping do the setup and being the first person in the room, event, uh, the lady that worked there let me in and she was like, yeah, no one else is here. You can just hang out. I was like,

Michy: Ha ha ha ha. ⁓

Josh: ⁓ this is going to be cool. This is a gorgeous space. I can already feel the way this is going to hit. And then like as the morning progressed, all of the other volunteers arrived. People were just so excited to be involved. It wasn't even the event yet. People were like, yeah, this is so cool. I would love to help you set up these chairs. I would love to help you put these tables out. Like, ⁓ and then talking with Kyle about, you know, ⁓ these

Michy: Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: You know, let's put the names of the perfumers and the brands on the tables and the flower arrangements. And just that first day before the doors even opened, it felt special. ⁓ and then even going into it from like our perspective, I had a little bit of imposter syndrome and I was like, you know, there's all of these cool brands that I love and respect and revere so much. And we're going to be like the podcasters over in the corner.

Michy: Hmm. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Josh: I did, I had that moment of like in the back of my head, was like, it's gonna be a good weekend, but like, you're not them. And the first time someone walked up and was like, you're part of my community.

Michy: Mm-hmm. It feels so good.

Josh: But even before that, yeah, Friday night when we met with some of the perfumers at the hotel and stuff, and we were like, I love the way you guys talked about AI in the industry. I loved the way you talked about ingredient sourcing. I was like, oh shit, they like us too. We're actually, and like, again, something that like, we are part of this community, but it's easy to psych yourself out, but like, you're not, you're not really.

Michy: Yeah. Yeah, we're not perfumers, but yeah.

Josh: Right. But like the content creators and the people who purchase and the people who talk about it are just as big a part of the community. ⁓ It was just really special.

Michy: Yeah, I do it like I said, there's just so much love. After I got done setting up our table, I stuck around and started like filling gift bags. And as the brands were coming in, I mean, some people that I knew, some people that I'd only ever like chit chatted with or commented on their videos, some of the brands were coming in and they're like, they ran and gave me hugs and were like, we're so glad that you're the first person that we saw. I'm like, why? Like really? Like you like me?

Josh: You

Michy: It felt so good. I mean, like going back to the space itself, I think having it in an event space that is meant for celebration is what made this event off the bat feel different because it didn't feel like it didn't have this this capitalist feeling like you we're here to sell you. It's like, no, we were there to celebrate independent fragrances and Party together and party we did. Yeah.

Josh: Well, we'll circle back to that. ⁓ the uninitiated, ⁓ this is the Fumed episode. We're talking about Fumed Expo Chicago. ⁓ And and I were there as vendors with the fragrance files. We a table ⁓ and we did interviews live there with people who were attending. ⁓ But also got to experience it. ⁓

Michy: Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: I have been to many, many a trade show in my day job. And it's very ⁓ that rush and that bustle and how many booths can you talk to? How many faces can you see? How many hands can you shake? And you're being sold to, like you said, it's very much a buy, buy, buy. And this was not that. It was very thoughtful and intentional. And you were not showing up to purchase fragrance.

Michy: Mm-hmm.

Josh: you were being invited in to experience this community, the independent perfume community.

Michy: Yeah, exactly.

Josh: And I just really loved ⁓ everyone's attitude, really. The people who were there as vendors were excited to be there. A lot of people, it was their first event and maybe they were a little struck by how many people actually showed up. But it was just like, I had never met Elsie in person. And the moment she walked through the doors,

Michy: Mm-hmm. Yeah?

Josh: She gave me this big hug and I was like, yes, because we just filmed this amazing episode together, but we've also known each other online for so long.

Michy: Thank you. Yeah, yeah. It felt great to like, team up to set all of it up the day before. Like, it's like, yeah, these are my people. I love it. We're all a little type A.

Josh: Yes. ⁓ To all of the other volunteers that I bossed around, I'm sorry, that's who I am as a person. But we needed to get stuff done. And we got it done. And it was amazing.

Michy: Yep. Yeah, three very take charge kind of people that all vibed really well to do it.

Josh: ⁓ yeah, I, again, military kid, I definitely was like, YouTube, you're volunteers, right? These chairs, line them out, please. Thank you. ⁓ And it's just because we care. We were there and we wanted it to be a success. And I saw that a lot even amongst the other vendors and stuff. If someone ran out of sin strips, people were like, ⁓ here's some. And then eventually everyone ran out of sin strips.

Michy: Yeah. There's this incredible sense of or lack of sense of competition. And I think Ali mentioned that when we were chatting, para fat, that everyone just was just wanted to help each other succeed. And that's what feels so different about indie is that it's not this cutthroat, you know, don't buy this by that kind of thing. It's let's all share our art together. Like there was ⁓ You had already left, but there was the last day of the convention. I met up with a bunch of the brands that were there and we did a little swap on a rooftop overlooking the river in downtown. everyone was just so joyous to share with each other. It was beautiful.

Josh: I think that was really the simple question we started with in the interviews was, what are you most excited about with Fume?

Michy: Mm-hmm. I think the reason why this event was so important, especially ⁓ for perfumers, is that there really is no event in the US that primarily celebrates them. As a matter of fact, a lot of the ⁓ major that happen ⁓ in America really priced out the independent perfumer to the point where they can't afford to buy the boots. ⁓ or to rent the booths for those events so they can't showcase. Like we're talking about people who are in business under a year, some of the people who are attending there. So, you know, they haven't built up the kind of capital to be able to afford a, you know, entry level $10,000 table. And, you know, that doesn't even guarantee that they're gonna get a return in that in sales. So it's, it was great to see something that not only made it accessible for the brands to attend, it also made it really accessible for the attendees to attend. mean, the ticket prices were less than half of any other event ticket price. ⁓ The space itself was way more accessible for all different kinds of people. There was an elevator, there was food available, there was seating available, there were plenty of bathrooms all over. So everything about the space felt really welcoming to everyone. And the thing is, is that in an industry where that is, you know, constantly being bought out by venture capital, private equity that has, you know, several hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars being thrown into these big brands. They have people that they hire specifically to go out to do these conventions for them. You know, very, you know, very rarely do you go to events and it's the perfumer themselves there. telling you about the fragrance, right? You might get the brand owner, they might make an appearance, but it's not always the perfumers themselves who are in the room. So I think that alone made this experience really interesting, because I can talk to a creative director, I can talk to a brand owner, but I wanna know from the perfumer, how is your brain working? So I think getting to know, their stories and why they make fragrance and why each of their voices are so important in this industry that is throwing release after release after release at us. And it's all feeling so much the same. Being in a room with people who are breaking those barriers and really challenging what perfume can be was incredibly inspiring to me.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, you hit a lot of points there. And I think we hear a lot of those coming up in the interview questions too, where people were saying, I didn't get this kind of interaction at Scent Explorer. I didn't get to talk with the people about their inspiration for my favorite perfume from their brand. You know, I didn't get to... walk up and say, hello, this is one of my favorite fragrances that makes me think of my mom and see the perfumer light up, you know, ⁓ that directness was really such a strength in this space. You also really saw that as people were setting up and going into the day,

Michy: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Josh: I kind of noticed the different way each person set up was really interesting. Like Chris at Cult of Kaori, he was like, I forgot my tablecloth. This looks awful. And I was like, Chris, your branding is all black. It's a black table. This looks fine. And like Josh at ParaPhrase, I guess is very used to like markets and stuff, because he was set up in a flash. I like saw him get to the table.

Michy: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it looks, it looks fantastic. Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Yeah.

Josh: I turned around and I turned back and he had the perfume bottles like sitting up on posts on this big fur cloud and I was like, how did you do this? Everyone else is struggling to get scent strips out of an envelope and you set up a whole table.

Michy: ⁓ His table looked phenomenal. I honestly, a highlight of the weekend for me was getting to know Josh because I thought that he was so cool and so funny. I don't know if I expected him to be that hilarious in person, but he was such a delight to be around.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, getting to hang out with Josh was ⁓ a fun moment, especially because I had interviewed him for Goth Fragrance Dialogues, and I was like, I don't know that he likes me. Like, we had a little bit of a weird energy there. And that's just how he is. He's a great guy. It's just, he's got that very chill energy. And getting to hang out with him, and like, we got pizza with him, and he's fantastic.

Michy: Mm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, agreed.

Josh: were some of your favorite interactions at Fiend?

Michy: You know, I don't think I had a single bad interaction. ⁓ Honestly, everyone was just so special. think getting to see some of the brands that are from New York and seeing them outside of our typical space and watching them in their element. Like I'm the one usually selling their fragrances for them in the store. Watching them light up. and be so proud and talk about their fragrances. I'm like, I felt like a proud mom. It's like, yes, do it, baby. ⁓ There was a moment on the first day where I I think it was like an hour in and I saw how insane the crowds were. And I told him, like, I'll be right back. And I ran downstairs with my credit card to buy the two new releases from Cult of Kaori. And I said, I'm like, you're going to sell out. Sell them to me now. And he was like so flustered. He was like, really, really? And I was like, yeah, now let's do it. I had been waiting for these releases for like almost a year. So they were my first purchase. I sort of knew going into the event what I was going to purchase because a lot of the brands I had experienced before. I had a game plan. I did go over budget, but not by as much as I thought I would. Yeah.

Josh: No.

Michy: also what I really enjoyed is at the end of the last day I went around and I asked all of ⁓ as many of perfumers as I could how the weekend went, you know, why why fume was so special. in ⁓ a few moments speaking to them ⁓ before that, they told me like, I sold out of everything. ⁓ I didn't expect ⁓ And ⁓ seeing so that people a wanted to buy their fragrances so much so that they sold them all out. them getting the experience to really see what their fragrances mean to people, it made me feel so happy for them that this is, I think for everyone, it was very validating that what they're doing is meaningful and people do really love it.

Josh: Absolutely. think the general highlight for me was just the collapsing of the distance between the creator and the audience. The creator and the consumer. So many cool conversations that I gotta be privy to. But also, I had been a fan of puppet perfume for a while. I remember ⁓ over a year ago talking to the group about how 100 % magic, it just...

Michy: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Josh: is one of those perfumes for me where I'm like, that is special. And it wasn't a brand that I heard many people talk about. And for Puppet to be there in person ⁓ and interact with people, sell out, and then this was shitty, but I think it shows just their impact that people were buying the bottle and then immediately listing it for like two and $300 on Macari. That part was shitty, shame on you for doing that. But I think it showed that like,

Michy: I know. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Even the smallest brands, the nichest ideas are celebrated in the space when you have a community that uplifts the art form. why we hear a little bit from the makers. So we talked a little bit about why indie perfume was important. I think that's kind of the ethos of the fragrance vials, but the way it showed up at Fumed felt really special to me, partially because it was created by an indie perfumer that felt like it needed to be there, Kyle of OSM, but also the way people reached in and said, what do you need? Yes, I'll be there. Yes, I'll volunteer. I think it goes to show that like indie perfume isn't a trend and it's not a fad. It is a foundation of this community. And when you really are conscious with your money, really, that's the power we have as a consumer and as a creator is reviewing and platforming fragrances by independent artists and purchasing things from independent artists. That's. where you make a difference. And that's why Fumed felt special to me, is we were making that difference. We were making that conscious choice.

Michy: Yeah. I very much agree. think ⁓ it like a movement. ⁓ It feel like just fragrance. feels like indie is having the moment that I think for years we've wanted it to have and people are catching on. ⁓ even different kinds of people that were there, ⁓ there some very large creators that don't typically review ⁓ independent fragrances and they were in the space and exploring along with us and they were, you know, some people that we would we would categorize of like as like frag bros ⁓ who were and I don't mean that in a derogatory way for anybody who's offended by it but ⁓ you know, but you know, just it just means that you're a straight man that's in that likes fragrance and has a very particular kind of taste but

Josh: I do.

Michy: watching them explore fragrance and watching some of them become emotional over the fragrance. Like it felt like we were cracking through something. We were cracking through to people and making them understand like this is so much more than you smell good, right? This is it. This is the art that we keep talking about in fragrance. And so watching people come to that realization, like this is This is going to grow so much larger, know, beyond fumed people are taking notice and indie is going to have the moment that it deserves.

Josh: For sure. I think, you know, I had a great interaction with Paul, Paulie Sense, shout out. ⁓ Where, you know, and I told him this, he came off kind of frag bro-y and I was like, ⁓ what kind of interaction am I about to have? And we had this really great conversation. He's a great guy. We now follow each other. And I was like, man, he's somebody that I admittedly would not have approached in the fragrance community due to my own biases. And few have managed to.

Michy: Mm-hmm.

Josh: to have us a moment to connect and see past any preconceived notions. He's a great guy. I really like the way he reviews fragrance and shout out to Polly. But I think that the other big piece too is that like it showed that indie perfume isn't a monolith. Every single table had its own perspective and approach and there was just such a mix of people.

Michy: Yeah. I love that.

Josh: There were perfume brands at the event that aren't my style perfumery, and that's fine. I still was absolutely delighted to talk to them about the stories.

Michy: Yeah.

Josh: I think the big thing was the kindness.

Michy: Yeah.

Josh: There was not a bad attitude in the building for the most part. ⁓ There was not a bad attitude that mattered in the building. I'll put it that way. And like.

Michy: Yeah. Yeah. Aside from being hangry here and there, everybody was great. Yeah.

Josh: Well, yeah, there was one point where I was like, Michi, I need a goddamn cheeseburger.

Michy: Yes.

Josh: outside of that. It just, people were so kind and so open. I ⁓ really appreciated it. And that was one of my real takeaways was the amount of people who were like, I just love being here. Like people who don't create content that were like, this felt so good to me being here.

Michy: Yeah. let's hear from what everyone who was tending fume had to say. I wound up leaving with way more fragrances than I planned to. I made quite a lot of purchases ⁓ yeah, I mean, knew I ⁓ getting the two new Cult of Kaori. I haven't fully reviewed them on my channel yet, but that is coming because the two fragrances are very, ⁓ very special to me. ⁓ Fountain and Apricot Kisuru. I wound up wearing Apricot Kisuru the second day because I couldn't wait. ⁓ But one that was a real big surprise for me was the afters. I had got to the table, was only full-size bottles left. I was planning on up a travel. She sprayed it on me, Ida, who was incredibly sweet. ⁓ I walked away and ⁓ not even five seconds later, I turned around and I immediately bought the full-size bottle. ⁓ Not only is it gorgeous, but the wear of it is incredible. It feels very much to me like the anti-clean girl fragrance. Like this is messy party girl fragrance and I love that. ⁓ It feels like you're doing the walk of shame at sunrise. You had maybe some like honey cocktails the night before. Your lipstick is smeared, your eyeliner is running, your tights are ripped. and you're walking home. Love it so much. Yeah. Hell yeah.

Josh: Yeah, it has an erotic undertone to it that I really enjoyed. It is not a fragrance I would wear quite often, but I smelled it and I was like, damn, if you show up with one fragrance and this is the one, kudos. Like, great, great job.

Michy: Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, it's and I always wonder about that. Like when a when a brand is premiering, how many fragrances they should come out with. I think like two to three is like the sweet spot. But if you're going to do one, that's the way you do one. You kill it with the packaging, you know, you nail it with the scent. Everything. Everything was great. I I I forgot the name of the perfumer. I believe his

Josh: Yeah.

Michy: Christa Ball was his first name, ⁓ but local to New York, I think. So I definitely want to smell more from him after smelling this one. ⁓ also, in the swap, I got Haunted Baby from Puppet, which is exciting because I could not get to that table at all. I got two travel sizes from Sid Botanica. And I wound up already upgrading Honeybody to a full-size bottle. but I just really wanted the travel sizes because they're so cute in Art Deco. ⁓ Kelly Jones had sent me a few of her fragrances before the event and I had also really fallen in love with the ⁓ Blanco, I believe it was. So I'm going to have to go and pick that up from her website because she was sold out again by the time I got down there. I knew I wanted Menyoo from Pharrell Parfums. I had smelled this before. She's local. She's in Brooklyn. I picked up a travel size from Parafries. I got Burrow, which is a really interesting turmeric fragrance. It's spicy and earthy and delicious. I totally fell in love with that one. I wound up going to MERS the next day and picking up a bread and roses from Pear Fat, because Allie, again, was sold out by the time I got to her table. So I needed to leave with a Pear Fat for sure. And there's so much more that I came home with, like samples wise, but I haven't pulled them. I came home with samples from ⁓ Nose of Gatsby, which I really enjoyed, from Domestika, which were really cool.

Josh: Yeah, love frequencies.

Michy: And I picked up a bottle for my husband as a gift, as a thank you for, you know, dealing with with me being absent all weekend. I bought him Spellbound from Blackcliff and I've kind of always wanted a Blackcliff bottle because I just love them. And this one happens to also be perfumed by Chris Undy from Cult of Kaori. And it's a ⁓ a Barbados rum fragrance that my husband is severely denting already. Yeah.

Josh: Hahaha didn't away with too much ⁓ because now set such high standards for what bottles actually enter the cabinet. ⁓ But some real standouts and samples that I'm living with to see who will make it, ⁓ the brand Jean Revere, all three of them are just stunning. And I have not been able to pick which one I'm going to upsize yet. ⁓ And like super sweet.

Michy: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Yeah. He's so good.

Josh: He was so chill to talk to Yeah, just it's great ⁓ Obviously like getting to hang out with perfumers that we've interviewed and kind of become friends Lee with was great so like chatting with JK from closet ⁓ meeting Zoe from Yeah, and getting to meet Zoe and we got to laugh about the time I gave her a bad review on her favorite fragrance ⁓ That was great I

Michy: Yeah, I love Justin. chicken. Ha ha ha ha.

Josh: I know it wasn't available at Fumed, but Chris Undy, if you're listening, you know it. That limited release cedar that's gonna come out, I will buy the first bottle. I will own that bottle.

Michy: Yeah. It's my favorite thing to do. Bully Chris Undy.

Josh: ⁓ I will find a way to Philadelphia. I'm getting a bottle of that perfume when it becomes available. let's see, who else? Feral, I did get a bottle of Spunk. I thought it was just so fun. I love their approach to perfumery. It's really, the word is fun. Like their branding is fun, their bottles are fun. The Chippendale cards at the table was fun.

Michy: Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: And I gifted Spunk to a friend of mine and it's now like one of his staples to wear.

Michy: Yeah, it's great. Her bottles, mean, they really she has a bigger bottle too, but I just I wanted this one because it's so cute.

Josh: It's cute and it just makes you feel good picking it up, which is the cornerstone of a lot of perfumery actually, I think is in the design. ⁓ I got to smell Nostos, which they're new on the scene. I hadn't got the chance to interact with their fragrances yet.

Michy: deaf. Mm-hmm.

Josh: Mitty, ⁓ I need to get a discovery set to actually live with them for a little

Michy: Yeah.

Josh: because it's chaotic in a whole event. And then yeah, again, Domestika was great. I did only leave with one full bottle and that was ⁓ Hot Milk by Hilda Soliani from MERS.

Michy: Meh. Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, if you're going to leave with one bottle, it's a great bottle.

Josh: Yeah, and then after the fact I did ⁓ get some samples from Punk and Dandy out of Raleigh or Asheville Asheville And then I'm doing a swap with Ali from Para fat I'm getting neon per row knee-high and rabbit rabbit, and I'm trading some with her for those

Michy: Mm-hmm. Nashville. Mmm? Hell yeah! I love that. I'm doing a Pear Fat order very soon. I'm just debating on whether I wait for the new release, but there's two other things that I think that I want. ⁓ I want the... ⁓ my gosh, hold on. What was the name of it? Was it I'll Never Learn? Yeah, I definitely want I'll Never Learn. And I think I want Neon Perot too.

Josh: Ooh, which ones? Yes. That was a limited release though.

Michy: Damn it! Okay.

Josh: Mm-hmm. That's why when when Ally said she could send me a baby fat of it. I was like, yeah, okay good

Michy: All right, maybe I'll wait until knee high comes out then. Yeah, I'm so excited. I can't wait to smell like corn and blueberries.

Josh: which is next week. Yeah. It's beautiful. It is one of the few florals I find myself reaching for, actually.

Michy: Wow, I love that.

Josh: It wears very blueberry floral on me and I thoroughly enjoy it.

Michy: I feel like your skin always pulls out the florals more. It's because your skin knows you hate florals.

Josh: Mm-hmm. Right, I hate them. It's just, they're hard for me. ⁓ Outside of all of the cool perfume that was there, I also have to give a huge shout out to the folks who dropped by our table just to say they enjoyed us. ⁓ It was so incredibly validating to hear people, I know I mentioned it at the beginning of the episode, say like, you're part of my commute. I look forward to hearing you every Friday. ⁓ Someone again compared me to Bob Ross. Thank you.

Michy: Gah. Yeah. ⁓ you're my own personal Bob Ross. I love it.

Josh: ⁓ yeah, it was really amazing. I was also shocked and dear listeners, you get to hear me admit that I was wrong. Before we went to fumed, Michi was like, should we have merch? Should we have hats? And I said, no, who would want merch from a podcast talking about perfume? And she said, well, I'm going to get two hats just for us so people will see us.

Michy: Thank

Josh: And people ask to buy that hat no less than a dozen times.

Michy: I told you! Yes, we will. We will be sure to have something. T-shirts, hats, or actually we're cooking up some other cool ideas that we won't talk about yet, but ⁓ they are some cool ideas in the works.

Josh: I was wrong. We should have had merch and we will correct that in the future. Yeah, so yeah, to the audience, ⁓ thank you. We see your comments on every video, on every episode. We see your reviews. Thank you. Michie and I have such a passion for this, and it's so validating to hear that you all like what we have to say, but also support our mission to platform and uplift these independent brands.

Michy: Yeah, it was. agree. Thank you all so, so much. Cause it's really, got, I got emotional at one point. I think it was, I think it was the Saturday night. Cause I'm like, holy shit. Like people are listening to our podcast. Like we're not just talking into the void here, you know? So it's to see people face to face and to know that it's important to them and know that they, they feel a relief that we're talking about the things that we're talking about. I'm like, ah. Like, yes! It's so, it is very, very validating. And, you know, my heart goes out to all of you. Thank you all so much for listening and listening to my incessant cackling every episode.

Josh: And it goes without saying, we're not very much the self-promotion type, but if you are enjoying this on whatever podcast or video platform you're consuming it in, please consider liking and subscribing. It helps with the metrics, it helps us continue to grow this, and it helps us continue to kind of be aspirational about who we're inviting to chat with us. I think we have some really exciting stuff to come.

Michy: Yeah, we do. We have some really exciting guests coming up that I think a lot of people are going to be excited to hear from.

Josh: Yeah. And before we round out this episode, we would be remiss not to talk about the reason fume happened. Kyle Markandenberg.

Michy: Hi all!

Josh: ⁓ wow. just wow. Kyle, what can't you do? ⁓ we, you know, I, I got, I had the pleasure of interviewing you in your lab about OSM perfume. ⁓ we had the pleasure of interviewing you about fumed early on, but actually seeing you in action and seeing what you managed to pull together and pull off for the community and for the art form.

Michy: For real. we are forever grateful to you, Kyle, for putting this together and just uplifting others ⁓ with you. And that's really what this is all about. That's how community is built. It's climbing that ladder and reaching your hand down and helping others climb up with you. And I ⁓ Kyle is a shining example of that.

Josh: ⁓ I we don't have firm details on the next Fumed, but I have heard you won't have to wait a full year before the next one. So make sure you are following the Fumed Expose socials to hear any updates on the event.

Michy: Exceeding. Yes, we're hoping for a big announcement soon-ish.

Josh: ⁓ And I think they're only going to get better. For a first event, it had very few hiccups and we are only going to get better as we continue.

Michy: Yes, and we can't wait to continue to be a part of them with Kyle as well and all of our favorite people.

Josh: and all of you, because like we said, this is a fantastic community and thank you for letting us be a part of

Michy: Yes. Thank you guys, I love you.