Danny: And today we're talking about things we need to really stop normalizing in society. Like when did it become normal for us to work eighty hours a week and that for that being a braggable thing? When did texting somebody 14 times become such a normal behavior just because you didn't get a response? And when did it become normal for us to film people in a public setting? What what what's your opinion, Nikki? Nikki: You know, this I feel like is I wanted to say TikTok, but no, I think it was big on Vine too. Like Danny: Yeah. Nikki: doing these like humiliation rituals, especially with like filming people in public. And Danny: Yeah. Nikki: I mean it's just gotten worse in the day and age of TikTok and and just like exposing people. You know, I just saw a video the other day where this guy was giving out chicken to homeless people. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And then he ended up calling this homeless person slurs. Danny: What? Nikki: And the homeless person attacked him and whooped his ass. Danny: Wait, I think I might have seen this. my god, was it like was it California, I think? Nikki: I don't know where it but it I just I know that he was on the ground getting his ass kicked and it was like Quiet. Like there was no noise. Danny: Well I asked if sure if if if he's if he's telling calling somebody slurs, period. Like that's you you asked for that. What the hell? Nikki: Yes. Like I am the the recording strangers or content thing is always something that's made me feel icky. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Because I'm always afraid that I'm gonna end up in one of those videos and that Danny: Yeah. Nikki: I'm gonna be plastered all over the internet with like out anybody's consent. And I know Danny: Mm. Nikki: you can be, but it's so much I feel like so much more I don't know, judgmental. And Danny: Yeah. Nikki: so I really don't want to be plastered all over the internet for things like that. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And I also grew up just giving money to homeless people without the Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: need for somebody to be like, you're doing great Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like when did it become that you need praise to do these acts of service or these acts of kindness? Danny: Well, I think that's very much it. That's there's people that that give out of the kindness of their heart, and then there's people that give because they're gonna get views. Like it's such a a toxic behavior. And this I think this whole thing that you touched upon of of people being filmed in a public setting, I don't think it wouldn't be nearly as bad if cancel culture was so rife as it is. Like you could do What you know, I could be I could be in I don't know, Trader Joe's picking a wedgie out my ass and then all of a sudden I'm on TikTok with its 17 million comments being like, that's gross. Like, no, that's like listen, I'm living my everyday life. I don't need to be put on social media and and that's the other thing. Just because a creator is filming in a public setting does not give them a right to film you. Just because they Nikki: Yeah. Danny: are on social media doesn't mean they have your consent to put you on social media. Nikki: Yeah, like blur out their faces. Like not not everybody Danny: I mm hmm. Nikki: wants to be in that that realm with you and then, you know, or if you're gonna go and film people, ask for consent, like, hey, are you okay with being put in this video? Danny: Yeah. Exactly. It's Nikki: Big You go ahead, sorry. Danny: it just it baffles me. It just it's one thing that I just don't think I will ever fully understand. And that is just people that have this almost a sense of entitlement of being like, I can do w I can do whatever I want when I want. Like, Honestly, if somebody filmed me without my consent and I got into it with them I would probably put them on their ass. Nikki: Especially because sometimes what they do is very nasty. Like Danny: Yes. Yeah. Nikki: I remember I was just this is going back to something I watched. I was watching a body cam of these TikTokers who were like filming in public places and one I think they went inside a restaurant and started using a leaf blower. And they're just leaf blowing. Danny: Wait, what the hell? Nikki: Yeah, they're leaf blowing like the employees. So everything behind the counter now is being like leaf blowed all over. And then Danny: my god. Nikki: In the next video it was they took a lawnmower into Target. Like a rideable lawnmower. And they like ended up like breaking the door because he hit it too hard. Danny: What the hell? Nikki: I mean they got arrested, but it's just so crazy this is what people do for views and for fame and Danny: Yeah. Nikki: for that five seconds or those you know, it like when did Destroying public property become cool. Danny: Well that that's it's like a I just don't feel like people care. You know, they they don't care if they catch a criminal charge or anything like that. I think it's just more of like their persona online. How can they, you know, fluff their ego? How can they get more I guess how can they get more views, ha more popularity? It's I feel like popularity is replacing respect and that Nikki: Yes. Danny: That should never be okay in send in society. Nikki: Yeah, 'cause like when I was growing up or when I was a teenager, like obviously I was a little asshole for sure. But I feel like the most I would do would be like go to Walmart and ride a skateboard. Like Danny: Yeah. Nikki: in like the in the skateboard aisle. Like I would Danny: Yeah. Nikki: like ride my skateboard through there. Like I never destroyed anything. Danny: No. That's I just I don't know how that I guess I'm more baffled at like how people just think that's normal behavior. But I feel like I wanna say definitely in California, like, you know, the the home of I wanna call it the home of content creators because that's where I feel like they all pretty much flock to. when Nikki: Yeah, and even if they're not from there, they go there anyway. Danny: no exactly and and You know, I okay, it's great for for your growth and stuff like that, but not when it's at the expense of other people, other people's businesses or other people's livelihood. That's that's never okay. Nikki: I also don't understand people getting on the internet and embarrassing themselves for fame. Danny: Yes. Well I'd like Astro Vino. Nikki: I was just gonna say, did you see that boxing event? Danny: Wait, was that was that real? my god, I didn't know it was real. Nikki: Yes. yeah. It happened. It i I think it was on Friday. Danny: Girl, I thought that was you know, that's the other thing. Like I can like I don't like how we're growing up in a day and age where you don't know if it's AI or not. Like my god. Nikki: No girl, it was not AI. She tapped out after the first round. Danny: As she should. She's messy. Nikki: Bree Bree fucked her up. The comments look at Danny: A as she should. That's listen, that's someone who needs humbling. Nikki: They both need humbling. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: I can't stand either one of them. But Danny: Who's Brie? Nikki: Breedy, I don't know. Do you know you obviously if you know Astrovina you know Santos. That's Danny: Yes, yes. Nikki: his baby mama. Danny: Lord. Nikki: they got together like shortly after like the noon thing. Him and Brie, but Brie's also like a really shit mom. Me and my niece were just talking about this last night, like we were just talking about like all the fights and everything and Danny: Such great people. Nikki: They like how like these those two were like the shit moms. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And yeah, she like that's what I'm saying, like they do these things. You people are doing these things not only for views, but you're in and to call other people out or make fun of people, or then you're d dragging yourself into drama for for views or for money. And then on top of that, people are dragging their children into this. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: So before your kids even in middle school or kindergarten for some of they already have a whole public persona on the internet. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And this is gonna follow them. So it's so w crazy to me. Danny: Yeah. It's it's interesting, like obviously you say, you know, they have this this persona before they even get online. And I I feel like a a good example of that is I don't know if you know Theresa Judech from The Real Housewives in New Jersey. But Nikki: no, I don't. That's not my cup of tea. Danny: so I used to watch that religiously, and then I just eventually got bored of it. But Teresa is the mother of the kids and and she was very much, you know, on the show. There was a scandal with taxes and all that kind of stuff. She went to prison. but then I feel like her I don't necessarily want to say fame, but I guess her popularity with everything going on. I feel like that's definitely influenced her kids. And then I feel like her kids have had an like a following from the get go because of their mother's popularity. But I don't feel like that's a good thing. Like you want it to be organic. You want, you know, your following to be based on you, not somebody else. It's just it's weird. Nikki: Mm-hmm. Because then it's all gonna come back to well, your parents did this, this and this and then you're judged for what your parents did. Danny: Well, exactly. And then you're Exactly. And it's never it's never on, you know, your own merit. It's never on you're judged on another person. That's never okay. Nikki: Or I feel like people would want to befriend those children. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like 'cause their parents want to get to know the parent. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like, you know, like if you if your kid comes home and they're like, this is my new friend and you know from a TV show who the parent is Danny: Yeah. Nikki: or from TikTok or something that those you're pushing your child into that friendship so you can get close to the parent. Danny: Yeah. Yeah. And there's there's Nikki: Or you won't let your friend your child be friends with them because of who that parent is. Danny: Yeah. And that's like it's you know, you could be p you could be put in a really unsafe position too, because not everybody out there is a good person. Nikki: Yep and you don't know what drama they have that could Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: be brought to the house if your child's there. Danny: Yeah. Talking of like I guess talking of of, you know, parents and stuff like that, another thing I can't really fully grasp is this like hustle culture of you know, being constantly exhausted exha exhausted. What was that? Exhausted. you know, being exhausted to the point where, you know, you're working eighty hours a week and then you're coming home. Like I I guess that, you know, when I was younger in my early twenties. You know, I used to pull forty five, fifty hours and I've like, you know, okay, it is it is what it is. But now, girl, I'm not working more than thirty-five hours a week. Uh-uh. I'm doing I'm doing whatever I c whatever I can to pay the bills and that's it. Like I feel like I don't know where this this need for, you know, working so much. Like, no. Why why Nikki: I feel like it Danny: work for a job that If you were to die tomorrow would replace you within na w within a day. Nikki: Yeah. And that's another thing, like, these people wanna grind for the next big thing, but you're not Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: valuing what you have here now. Because Danny: Yeah. Nikki: some of the happiest people in the world are piss poor broke. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Because they're living for them now. They're not living for what you can do with your for yourself in a year. Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: Because when you you're gone, what are what does your people the people in your life or your immediate circle They're like, Well, I never saw them because all they did was work. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: but at least they had that nice car. Danny: Yeah, it's it's definitely all the material things that I I feel attracts a a lot of people to it, especially. And this this this hustle culture that also promotes this sense of making people feel guilty for resting. That's Nikki: Yeah. like you you don't work this day or you're not going to the gym or you don't do this. Well no, motherfucker. I'm not Danny: No. Nikki: trying to die young because you don't stop. Like Danny: Exactly. Exactly. Nikki: you are digging yourself further into a grave because you don't. You're not getting the stress levels alone could put you in Danny: Yeah. Nikki: the grave early. And working Danny: That's Nikki: eighty hours a week, day in and day out, what are you doing to your body? Danny: Yeah. There there's just you have to rest. You like you you do you have to rest. Whether it's for your body, for your mind, like it's I I feel like a lot of people get lost in that the commotion of working so so hard for so long that eventually and and like one of my therapists told me this when I was younger, you know, if you if you don't listen to your body and rest when you can. your body will make you rest when it's the most inconvenient time. And Nikki: Damn. Danny: and I don't think I anything has ever been so true to this day. Cause like I when I was eighteen and nine in eighteen and nineteen, bearing in mind in the UK you can start working from sixteen. Very odd if you ask me. really? Nikki: I mean there's places here that you can do a fourteen. Mm-hmm. Danny: damn. Yeah, no, over there you could like I was I was pulling like twelve hour night shifts at The age of 17, nearly 18. And then I just remember I got really, really burnt out to the point where like I had like a mental health episode. And that just honestly changed my perspective for forever. Because I was like, I'm never gonna allow myself to get to that point. There is no no job, there is no person that is worth doing that to yourself. Nikki: You know they tell you that the most expensive thing you should ever purchase in your life is a good mattress. You should never Danny: yeah. Nikki: go like skimp on a mattress because that is where you recover. It's so Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: important to have good sleep or adequate sleep and not feeling the pain of waking up if you have worked or things like that. So if they're saying that, obviously sleep is very important. Danny: Yeah. Yeah, it's and you you're spending a good chunk of your time there. You know, it's Nikki: Mm. Danny: like even if you even if it was what six six hours, maybe seven hours a day, that's your that's your resting space. And if it's not If it's not, I guess, like you said, you know, if you're s if you're skimping and scraping to the point where you're not skimping and scraping, what I talking about? If you're skimping on a mattress, like you wanna make sure at least like where you're spending most of your time is relaxing, is restorative, and is also good for your body and your mind. Nikki: Yeah, mental your mental state alone is Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: so important. And like I said, if you're out doing a stressful shift every week for eighty hours or fifty hours or sixty hours, like that's gonna catch up to you. And Danny: Yeah. Nikki: like especially with the average American, what the average American probably retires about s between sixty to sixty-five. Our Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: life expectancy is only like seventy-eight. You don't even have long to enjoy what you've worked your entire life for. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: If you have worked from the time you were eighteen and don't retire till you're sixty five, Danny: Yeah. Nikki: what what was it all was it all worth putting in those ungodly hours for Danny: Yeah. Nikki: having hopefully a few years of calm? Danny: Yeah, it's that's it's a rough one. Another thing I wanna touch on though as well, Nikki, is American versus British work culture. And the reason I say that is I moved here in two thousand sixteen. In the UK, the standard time off vacation time, and this is not this isn't without this isn't public holidays. This is just pure vacation time. The minimum is six weeks. Nikki: my gosh. Danny: Then I move to the States and I'm working for a job, and they're like, yeah, your first year you only get one week. And then for the like I think it was retail I was working on, the most you'll ever get is two weeks. And I'm like, What? Like, like how I you know, how do people function like that? And you know, now I'm here ten years in and it's it still baffles me how even myself, but how people are able to to think that two weeks is restorative enough. Like you're spending so much of your life making somebody else rich when you could be making Nikki: Yep. Danny: yourself rich. Might might not be but with money, but with life. Experience life. Visit places. Like you don't need to be stuck behind a keyboard or you're nine to five to feel like you're living. Nikki: I think what shocks me more than the sick time is when your loved one dies and they expect you to have like one day off and get Danny: Yes. Yeah. Nikki: back to it. Like, excuse me? Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: You want me to mourn and shove all my emotions of loving this person for my entire life into a one day box. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And then come back and do my job. I think that's Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: so crazy that they that's how little they value other lives. Danny: Yeah. Well, 'cause you're just you're just a number. And again, like this is a this is a job that if you were to die tomorrow they'd have you replaced within the day. Like it's it's disgusting. Nikki: Yep. Like I'm grateful that like for Sarah, like she gets sick time and then she gets PTO. And then Danny: Yeah. Nikki: on top of that she can also buy PTO. Danny: yeah, that's nice. That is nice. Nikki: So she can just pay for extra hours. I don't know if it still exists. It did exist because she would buy extra for like our vacations, like for our Danny: Yeah. Nikki: anniversary trips. And if she like didn't use them, she could get her money back at the end of the year with whatever she Danny: Yeah. Yeah. Nikki: paid for. And obviously she gets time on every paycheck. So and her boss is very generous, like for instance, like when my grandpa died, like she was like, No, I understand. Like take it off. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And that's not a lot of companies wanna care about your spouse's grandpa. Danny: That's just so weird. Just cause, like, and that's the other thing. Just cause they're not your family by blood doesn't mean they're not your family. Nikki: Yes. And 'cause she looked at him like that was her grandpa. She called Danny: Yeah. Nikki: him grandpa, like they were very close, so I know that affected her greatly, so I'm gr I'm very glad that her boss was understanding in that moment. Danny: Yeah. It's always good to have a a good boss, especially, you know, not necessarily just just for these moments I I think in general, but I guess more so for the times where, you know, life is life sucks, you know. It's you can't change what when these things happen, but you can definitely alleviate somebody's pain when it happens to them. Nikki: Yeah. It's just being like, you know, your emotions are stronger than or more valued than money. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And that's that's very important because you have to think that these people are at their lowest of low Danny: Yeah. Nikki: in these moments, and then you're like, you have to return tomorrow. And some people I'm sure that works great. You know, there's people who want to throw themselves into work and try to forget Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And just be like, okay, I prefer just to focus on this, let me not think of this tragedy. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: But then there's some people who are like, I need to cry. Danny: Mm-hmm. Hey, if you don't if you don't grieve, your body will choose when you when you grieve and again, it's never gonna be an a a convenient time, that's for sure. Nikki: Right. It's Danny: That's crazy. Nikki: so did you when so we obviously grew up on like Blackberries and T nines and razors. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Did you spam text people when they would not respond? Danny: No. Abs fucking Lutley not. There is no listen, there is nobody worth multiple texting. I don't care who it is. No. Nikki: See, I will Danny: And I don't know how this I I don't even know how that ever became a normal behavior too. Nikki: I will spam text my mama. Like if I'm in Danny: Okay, that's different. Nikki: her presence and I sent her something, like I'll say I send her a TikTok and she hasn't responded, like Reddit, I'll be sending Danny: Yeah. Nikki: I send her the eye emojis. And I'll just like spam it one after another until she looks at it. Yes. Like don't fucking Danny: Yeah. Not the passive aggressive like look at your damn phone. Nikki: like this is and then she'll just like do like a breathy laugh, like no. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: That deserves more that I just spammed you for five minutes for you to look at this damn text. What do you mean it's just a ha No Danny: Yeah. That's so funny. But yeah, I mean, there's like even f I've had friends in the in the past where and you know, even more recently, like if they don't get a response, then I've got three or four more messages coming in. like maybe it's Nikki: I'll stalk your ass. Danny: well listen, that that's different, but like when it's like friends Nikki: You like to play possum and I'm like, No, motherfucker, you're not playing possum on me Danny: No, well because you know, life sucks sometimes and like my I don't know why, but my I guess one of my more toxic traits is when life gets hard, I shut down and I like I will literally close the curtains in my in my apartment and I will sit in the dark and that's my comfort. that in it but it's never it's never beneficial. In the moment Nikki: Yeah. Danny: it feels like it is, but then it's just like, great, I'm now in this rut. How do I get out? But like, okay, let me let me rephrase the whole thing with the texting situation. Like, what if it's someone you're dating and they text you and you you're at work, you're busy, and you don't get back right away, but then you check your phone towards the end of the afternoon. There's seven more messages there. Nikki: The only time I feel like that would be okay is if it was an emergency, but at that point call me. Danny: Yeah, exactly. Nikki: Like but I'd also expect my partner to understand, like I'm at work, I'm not just gonna be able to jump at your messages. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: So, like that's also a respect thing for me, like respect the fact that I'm busy, like I told you, like you know I'm going here or I'm going to work or I can't check my phone. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like respect the fact I'm not gonna get back to you. Like that's a big thing for Sarah and I, like Sh so no matter where she goes, I always get a text like I'm here safe. I love you. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: And then I know, okay. We're chill. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like I know she's good. But then I like I respect that, yeah. Danny: Yeah, the drives done, she say, yeah. Nikki: Yep. Or like if she goes to a client's house, she writes to me and she'll be like, I'm leaving the office now. I'm heading to the client's house. I'll text you and then I get a text I'm back at the office. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Like But I respect the fact that I know she's out driving or she's in the office working and I just think yeah, I think it truly comes down to a respect thing. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: If you do you respect your partner or are you just gonna blow up all day and then they can't focus on their work because they're like, I have to please you You know, it's it's very weird. Danny: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's such a such an odd behavior, personally. I like on the like more extreme side of it. I definitely see texting your partner, making, you know, kind of, you know, making r letting them be assured that you're okay. But this whole thing of like texting your your partner that you've got to a place, I think that's completely healthy. You know, letting your Nikki: Mm. Danny: partner know, Hey, I got to X. It's, you know, it's reassuring them not only and like, okay, let let's use s Sarah as an example. You know, the work that she does, if she's going over to a client's house, yeah, you're gonna want to know that she's left there safe. Like Nikki: Yeah. Or that she's heading there so I can track her. And Danny: Yeah. Nikki: if I'm like, it's running too long, let me just make sure. At least I know her location. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: 'Cause I know this Danny: That's Nikki: is where she was heading, I can track her and then if things go crazy, I know where she is because she told me she's heading Danny: Yeah. Nikki: to a client's house. Danny: Yeah. On the polar opposite of that though, let me ask you let me ask you a couple of scenarios and let me see where you fall with this. Nikki: Ooh. Danny: So your friend hasn't replied for six hours, but they've posted on Instagram. Do you think that's disrespectful or are they entitled to use social media without engaging in conversation? Nikki: That's a hard one. I think it depends on the text. If I'm Danny: Yes. Nikki: texting you like trying to do last minute plans, like don't fucking ghost me. Like Danny: Yeah. Yeah. Nikki: I'm trying to get this done, but if for instance, let's say I text you, I know you're not mentally doing okay that day, you wanna go laugh at fucking Instagram reels. At least I know you're alive and well. So I Danny: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nikki: think it depends on the context of what that text message was. Danny: Yeah. I also feel like it it really depends on the the foundations of of that friendship too. Like there's like my like my best friend, for example. Well, when we were best friends, should I say, we would text every day multiple times a day. And then, you know, when that behavior changes, I think that is, you know, for me it's indicative of being like, Okay, there's there's something going on. Like That's like that's a a readable behavior to me. Nikki: Mm. Danny: when s like a pattern like that changes as such. But, you know, if you draw the comparison between, say, your partner or a friend, then I feel like that's completely different. Nikki: Yeah, definitely I think it depends like like I said, the person, the context and I guess the closeness? Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Because like I'm Danny: Yeah. Nikki: a horrible at like starting conversations. Like horrible. Danny: Yeah, yeah. Nikki: I will not reach out to anybody. It's one of my most toxic traits. It's it's horrible. Danny: Ha ha ha. Nikki: But in my head I always feel like, I'm bothering them. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: So I'll never usually be the first one to reach out to anybody. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: So I'm sure I've I've I probably look like a dick to a lot of people, but it's just I can't I can't I'm sorry. Danny: Yeah. Listen, it's that that's but that's completely normal behavior. Like you you're you're allowed to to do that and b and that and you know, be that way. It's Nikki: I always inform people. Danny: Life is Yeah. Nikki: Like I am shit. I will never reach out to you first, but I'm here. Danny: Yeah. Let me ask you this. Your partner reads your message but doesn't reply until the following morning. Does being in a relationship change our expectations around communication? Nikki: How long have you been in that relationship? Danny: That is a good question. That is a very good question. Because if you've been in a relationship for a week, as opposed to two years, that's it's very different. Nikki: Yeah, if in a week, you know, you don't really know their schedule like that or but two years you would you probably have a routine at that point. Danny: Exactly. Yeah. Nikki: So then yeah, so it depends on yeah, like yeah, I think it would depends on how the length of it. Danny: Yeah. I also feel like though when you even in the dating phase, like at least with, you know, partners I've dated in the past, like I've made it clear my expectations around communication. Like I always like to to to say, you know, the the effort that I'm putting into communicate should be reciprocated and I just feel that that that is respect. Nikki: Yeah. Like if you if I text you, okay, good night, I love you, and you Danny: Mm-hmm. Nikki: fall asleep before the message is sent, like I can't be upset with you. Danny: No. Nikki: Or if you put your phone down and turned the turned away from your phone to go to sleep, I'm not gonna be upset that you didn't respond. Danny: No, exactly. Nikki: So I guess it yeah, it depends on the the text and the relationship length. Danny: Yeah. Okay, your boss your boss texts you on your day off asking a work question. Should you respond? Or is your time Exactly. Exactly. Okay, we're Nikki: Fuck no. The sh Danny: we're both in the same and and that one. I was like when I read that I was like Nikki: Are you paying me for this answer? Danny: Well there's been times where I've messaged back and I'm like, should I clock in to respond? Like No. Bearing in mind that that boss was extremely toxic and would text me at like two AM with questions. So Nikki: Gross. Danny: yeah. Higher education. Wouldn't recommend it to anybody. okay, what about if someone sends you three question marks ten minutes after their first message, which you didn't respond to? Is that ever acceptable outside of an emergency? Nikki: Don't rush me. Like Danny: Yeah. Don't rush me. Like Nikki: if it's an emergency, call me. Like that's what I always Danny: Yeah. Nikki: say. Like don't fucking text me if it's something you needed like an instant answer to, call me. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: Will I answer? 5050. But a lot Danny: Ha ha ha. Nikki: of the times I look at it and I'm just like, meh nah. But if they call again, I know it's important. So Danny: Yeah. Nikki: but don't yeah Don't like call me. Call me if you want an immediate answer. Danny: It it Yeah. My God, this next one. I th I feel like we might differ well, I think we might well Nikki: I'm excited and nervous. Danny: I feel like we're gonna differ on this. a friend calls you without texting first. Is calling unexpectedly rude or have we overcomplicated communication? Nikki: I I don't mind a phone call. As long as Danny: Okay. Nikki: it's not like a constant thing, like don't call me every time you want to talk. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: But like, hey like if you want it like I said, a quick answer, always phone always give me Danny: Yeah. Nikki: a phone call. But if you just want to catch up, like I don't mind it, it just I think that sometimes it's very inconv the times can be inconvenient depending on what you're doing when that phone call comes in. Danny: Yeah, like what what happens if like and I've had this before where where friends have called me and I've been pooping, like la and then Nikki: I'll answer. Danny: well me too, and I and I've done that before and people like, Whoa, Nikki: No. Danny: are you like are you on the throne? I'm like, Yeah, you called me, this is my time. How how can I help you? And then like they're Nikki: Right. Danny: like, Call me back and then I'm just like, Well, you call me. Like I can't help what I'm doing in the moment. Nikki: Yeah, you do you want this or not? Do you want to talk or no? Because you're Danny: Yeah, like Nikki: getting to authentic me. Danny: exactly. Is it important? If not, okay, well give me ten minutes. Nikki: Like I'm just trying to enjoy my poop. Like this this is Danny: Exactly. Nikki: my quiet time. This is my TikTok time. Just let me do my thing. You called me, interrupted me, but then you're upset that I'm pooping? Like crazy. Danny: Yeah. Yeah. Like don't even. Don't even. my goodness. Nikki: What is you like, what do you think about that one? 'Cause you said we might differ. Danny: I okay, I don't like being called first. No, no, that's okay, but that that no, that's different, Nikki: I FaceTimed you yesterday. Danny: okay? So our friendship is very different. And some of my friendships that I've got are are are different as well. But say for instance, like it is I don't know, it's a friend, but they're not like best friend status kind of thing. That's different. Like Like or if like they're calling because I know they wanna work plans out or something like that. That's different. But like going back to my comment, like if I'm pooping and stuff, like if my best friend honestly, if you would have called me yesterday and I was pooping, I would have probably picked up, not gonna lie. And I'm glad I didn't because Nikki was out with her whole family, Nikki: Yeah, I'm glad you did it. Danny: okay? And I would have been mortified. But that see, that's different if, say for instance, a friend that I've had for Two months calls and they're like, Hey, we're going to a bar. You wanna come? Like, just send that over text message. But I also feel like Nikki: Yeah. Danny: that's a big part of of that introvertedness about me. I like to think I'm a like an extroverted introvert. because there's some places I can be extroverted, but introverted is my default, I feel like. just send me a text message. Nikki: Yeah, when Danny: I can read. Like Nikki: when they call with plans I feel like you have to be like, yeah. I feel like it's a lot harder to Danny: Well, exactly. Nikki: let them down via voice than it is over text. Danny: Yeah, like don't don't rush me like that. That's that's not okay. Nikki: Yeah. Danny: Mm mm. Nikki: Yeah, that yesterday especially 'cause everybody was like lining up, like who are you on the phone with? And then we're talking to you. So we're like, I'm happy that you were pooping because everybody wanted Danny: Yeah. my god. Your s Nikki: to know. Danny: your sister is a hoot and a holler, that's all I'ma say. Nikki: She is she is crazy that one. Danny: She is so fun. Nikki: Hi yes, I did have a Melanie's mall. Danny: No. Nikki: I listened to your fucking podcast. Danny: Yes. It's so good. So Nikki: So funny. Danny: good. Nikki: my gosh. It was that was yesterday was crazy and Dana got to experience a little bit of my family and their craziness. Danny: Yeah. Nikki: So Danny: Girl, just wait till just wait till Christmas when I'm back in the UK. You're gonna experience mine. Nikki: I can't wait to do like I think that it would be so fun to do the Life as a Twin podcast that we were discussing while you're in person. Danny: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Nikki: Cause I think that would just be so fun to hear you guys banter in person. Danny: It's gonna I feel like it's gonna be more Bicker than banter, but yeah. Yeah. It Nikki: Either one, I'm excited. But Danny: it'll definitely be a a good episode, that's for sure. Nikki: We have an Amer a washed up American that's you Danny: Yeah. Nikki: and then a British accent Pickering. Danny: I love how you have to point that out. A washed up American. Nikki: Just the two of you bickering in different accents and people are gonna be like, How are they twins? I think it's just gonna Danny: Yeah, yeah. Nikki: be real fun. I think that one's gonna be so funny. Danny: And the way the way that we honestly ping off one another though is it's it's comical. Like my poor mother, I don't know how she coped with, you know, I an older brother and older sister and then us two, like, oof, girl. Nikki: Yeah, I couldn't imagine having twins like two peas. Ooh. Danny: Honestly, if I would have had twins like me and my brother, I would have stitched myself up a long time ago. Nikki: I don't think you have to worry about that, friend. Danny: No, I know, but like if like if I was Pauline, okay? Yeah. For th for those that don't Nikki: my bad. Okay. I was like, I don't think I don't think I can get pregnant. Danny: know, my mom once told me that if I was a female, she would have called me instead of Danny, she would have called me Pauline. And it was at that moment Nikki: Good. Danny: that I realized that my god, my mom is a child abuser. I joke, I joke. Nikki: I feel like y you would have fed a like a great lunch lady with that name. Danny: A lunch lady. I would have been after lun after being the lunch lady, I would have gone to bingo. Like, what the hell is that? Nikki: Twenty twenty three years old, excuse me, cuties coming through. Grandma's got to get to big Danny: Yeah. With a with with a perm, Nikki: Yeah. Danny: neon colors, glasses on the edge of my nose. I can't. Nikki: The walker with the tennis balls. Danny: No, whoa, listen, I'm in my twenties, Nikki: Ooh. Danny: okay? That's the thirties that I get that, okay? God damn it. Nikki: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, I would have loved to meet Pauline because she would have been a hoot. She would have popped Danny: Well girl. Nikki: kids soccer balls that came over the fence. Danny: I could just make her my drag personality. Nikki: You should. You should do a a a stream. That's Pauline. Danny: I always thought like if my if well I've always I don't know if I've said this to you before, but if I had a drag personality, I'd honestly love the name Gloria. Gloria whole. 'Cause like, hey, but yeah. Maybe I'd l Pauline. Nikki: You know, I was watching TikTok one day and it was like a G T A R P and the guy's Danny: Yeah. Nikki: name w was Edith Puthy. And I think Danny: No. Nikki: if I ever make a cousin character, it's gonna be Edith Puthy. Danny: That is hilarious. my God. Nikki: I And it was like a full-grown Danny: Hmm. Nikki: man, super deep voice, wearing like a dress. Yeah. And he Danny: No. Do you remember that do you remember that GTA roleplay character that what was her name? The first one that I created. Was it Anita? Nikki: I need a dick. Danny: no, an an first name Anita, last name Dick and Me. Anita Dick and Me. Yeah. Nikki: Yeah. I just can't I can't with you. I think I think you'd need to make a cousin that's a female and just talk like that. Danny: Well, for sure. For sure. Nikki: Just 'cause I think it'd be funny to see how many men try to pick you up until they heard your voice. Danny: yeah. They're like, ooh, that one's fruity. Nikki: Well this episode has been a lot of fun. It's taken some turns, but I this one has been Danny: It has. It has. It has. Nikki: a lot of fun. Danny: Friends, thank you so much for joining us on this another amazing episode. I believe this will be episode eight, the time it comes out. Nikki: Yeah, episode eight. Danny: my gosh. We're gonna be in double digits. But it has been fun. Thank you so much for for everyone that's joined us so far. And if you're just listening in now, feel free to engage with our socials. be sure to leave any comments in the comment section about any of the items we've discussed today. And as always, friends, stay safe, stay sane. Nikki: And we will see you all later. Bye. Danny: Bye.