Calvin Higgins: And welcome back to Choice Man, everybody. Sam, how you doing? Very good. And nothing's different today, as we can all tell. It's just same old, same old whoa, whoa, Hey, we got a guest today. What's your name? Dander. that's cool. Yeah, we you've been on the podcast once or twice, right? Just once? Once. And your sister's been on the podcast like five times. I was looking at that the other day, going, hmm. We've been on here a lot. We're not playing favorites at all. Yeah, definitely definitely not playing favorites. It was just he happened to be available. he was not our first choice. So no, just kidding. well I mean he wasn't. I actually did ask other people, but they either had gotten their wisdom teeth out the same day or just didn't want to come. But it was great. You were right there and I like, Great, you're coming. Okay. Yeah. yeah, so this is what is is this our third episode of the student summer series? I think so. Just the first one with an actual student who's active and currently on the roster of students. So today we, you know, the the goal of the student summer series is to try to get some different opinions, different views from different students and potentially some teachers and administrators on how to look at the summer and then like, you know, some principles to look at how we use our summers. what kind of things can get done. and that'd be interesting to see from some different students' perspectives. So that's why he's here. That's why, you know, we want to have some more students on for the rest of the summer. Ideally, it'll be interviews for the rest of our episodes this summer. That'd be great, but it's hard to get people who are on vacation to be on a podcast. So you know that's cool. So Xander. Yeah. First of all, how are you doing this morning? I'm doing great. Fantastic. your your injury is doing good? Yep. Good. so how do you as a student well I guess first of all. How would you say your summer's been going so far, anyways? very well. I would say that it's so far very productive and busy. but all obviously there's always more stuff that I can do. But so far I think it's been very going very well. Fantastic. What grade are you going into in the next school year? Tenth. Tenth grade. Not bad. I enjoyed tenth grade. So young for just kidding. it does feel like that was about 18 years ago and it was four. So just get ready. yeah, so going into tenth grade. we still don't have school still doesn't have any events that are like 10th grade specifically run, correct? Then that's just Christmas feast, and then twelfth grade is Reformation Day. So I thought there was I think we should have a yeah. I thought there was a one off. I think there was a one off like last year or the year before that they did let the tenth graders do something. Yeah, I know there have been some people because I've been one of them who was basically politicking to get to get an event for the tenth graders to run. Campaigning. Yeah. I mean They can also just come up with something random. Like you guys could have a steak day. I think That would be crazy. It was last year that at least me and Job were talking about doing a Thanksgiving feast. And so maybe I can talk to some of the older people and see if we could do that for the tenth graders. Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be really fun. Yeah, Thanksgiving, bro. Honestly, man, if we we need to add a section like almost athletes has for a two minute rant. Because I've got a rant about Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving has just been Thanksgiving's amazing. And it gets treated like the redheaded stepchild of all the holidays. Like Valentine's Day, really? W that is gonna take more precedence than Thanksgiving. You know what I celebrate more on Valentine's Day? Actually, never mind. Anyways. What you know no, because you know what the most American holiday is of us other than the Fourth of July? Thanksgiving. Every time I think about Valentine's Day, I think, it's Mr. Vanderbrecken's birthday. Valentine's Day? Yeah. yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I think of when I think of Valentine's Day. I was it's Mr. Grainy Reckon's birthday. I don't think of like anything related to Valentine's Day really. At all. I try not to, and then I got married, so then That does upset a few things. Yeah. Kinda kinda have to pay attention to that. I love you, Basin. Yeah. So summer's been going good. Going into tenth grade. Mm-hmm. What Well, again, maybe we could before we get that specific, we can go further out. What do you think, from a student's perspective, students need to be doing in the summer on a school, like school-wise? So like what kind of reading principles or and here's the thing. We're not looking for a correct answer. We're just looking for whatever your answer is. So, you know, what what do you think students should be doing in terms of Reading or writing or whatever. You think none, you think some, what kind of st if it is some or a lot, what kind of things would you recommend for those? Which is completely different. Or or if you don't or right, exactly. Or if the summer should be used more for summary things, that's also good. But what what kind of balance do you see there? If that makes sense. I think I think at least for me, I'm doing some algebra. Like algebra two, I'm going into. and I know that's gonna be at least for me a little rough. 'Cause yeah. But wasn't algebra really good for you? Mm. It was okay. but so I've been talking to my dad a lot about it. A lot about yeah, algebra. no. That'd be crazy. about how like what her his expectations are for the upcoming school year and how he wants and I want to format d like doing my homework more like as soon as I come home we're talking about the algebra homework that I have. so going over some basics before the school year starts. In algebra too would probably be beneficial. and I think I'm gonna do that with my dad starting soon. but in terms of reading, you had mentioned some of the reading aspects. I'm reading right now. For the second time, I'm reading It's Good to Be a Man, by Michael J. Foster. and I mean, every single time I read it it gets I learn new things. I'm becoming a man, so it's always helpful. I know I'm gonna read that in like what grade? What grade did you guys read that? Is that twelfth grade? It was twelfth grade. Everybody I don't know if every senior clicks guys read that. Yeah. I think it's like four. And I think it's only two that we read if Mr. Giddings is still read in Capstone, it might be pretty It'll probably be in the list. Okay. Yeah. so I'm yeah, I'm that's my primary reading right now over the summer is It's Good To Be a Man and then reading Bible every day is very important. So I've been doing that. sometimes I've done it with my mom, but not too often. I main mainly at some point in the day where I have free time. Whether it's after work or after practice or whatever. Trying to read the Bible every day. Getting it is good. Yeah. It's non-negotiable yeah. No. Yeah, what so you'd say that there is there is there sh would you say there because obviously there is room for whatever you want to do in the summer. So there's room to do some reading, there's room to do some prep work for a class that you know is gonna be potentially more of a fun challenge. Hey, which by the way, that sounds like a good idea, because what I did is I took three quarters of algebra two as prep to take it again the next year, is how I could phrase that. Is that Khan Academy? No, what I'm talking about is that I took the class and was doing so poorly that I dropped out and took it again the next year. I see. Thanks, Gresham. That was helpful. the So that's a good idea. But so you would say because obviously there's room for that. Would you say that students should be looking to do reading and maybe some amount of prep work for the school year during the summer? Yeah, for sure. I mean, summer, I mean you're given summer for a specific reason. I mean, to take a break to relax and be given some free time for yourself or your family to take a break from school, because school is a big part of life. Especially for a teenager. but every single time you get out of school, like June, beginning of June, you get out of school and you forget about all your homework and then all of a sudden it's September, September first or whatever, and you come back and you don't know where your pencils are or you don't know how to write anymore. Or you have to get back into the groove of writing. I've felt that so many times. Like just forgetting how to do stuff. You're literally typing out, Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's Yeah, th I remember there being some times of like How are we doing this last year? Like, how is that even possible that three months ago I was reading? It's so it's really funny how quickly you can lose that in the summer. You know, it's funny because I always assumed, like, yeah, you're gonna get better at writing papers as you get older, right? Because you're just you're writing more and you're writing different papers and you're doing all that. And but yeah, every time you come back to school, you're like, What is that? And then I realized in twelfth grade that it was kind of true that yes, I did get. better at writing papers. But if I didn't like think about it at all. Well that's a thesis statement. It became really difficult to pick it up the next year. And you would get better, but it just like it would take like a whole two months to get back to where you were b the year be previously. So Yeah, I do think every year though, because it is muscle memory. So I do think if you got better during the year of writing, even if you don't really write during the summer, you can still get back To like pretty quick. So, like from 11th grade, I didn't really do a lot of writing between 11th and 12th grade, like in the summer. But 11th grade is when I like figured out some writing stuff. I mean, like, I like writing and I was decent at writing before. I thought I got a lot better by the end of 11th grade. when I figured out some like citation principles. Just in my own thinking about how I wanted to write. And so once I figured that out, I was like, this is great. So when I came back senior year, even though I hadn't done a lot of writing, it was pretty quick to like the principle of how I was gonna get it. It felt harder and slower to get those reps out. Just like so, like if you, you know, if you're benching 200 pounds, whatever, and you don't do that for three months. Well, your body knows we can bench. 200 pounds. Great. But it's gonna be harder and slower to get those reps of 200 out because it's like, but also can we do it though? It's like, I know we did it before, but so then once you kick that muscle memory back in, you can get back up to that quicker. And so I think that is where it's like, well, you're not gonna probably build a lot of new unless unless that was your goal. You're probably not gonna be building a lot of writing skills over the summer, but. Maintaining whatever you got is probably a good idea. But I think even the way to do that is just impromptues. Like Yeah. There is a one summer, I made maybe eighth grade, that I actually did write a paper, like the first week of of summer break for my sister Kara to look over. 'Cause at that point we would do bike rides in the morning, almost every morning, I think. I think I remember this season of life 'cause you would bike ride To like our house. Yeah, every yeah, every so often. It's kind of a far bike ride actually. It is. It was like four miles, three miles. All the triathloners out are like, what are you talking about? Yeah. I don't know. I mean we me and Jane tried to hit the trail quite a bit now, and that's like five miles, which isn't bad. but because we would go on a bike rides and then we would talk about like, okay, so I'm gonna have a right write you paper this week. paper's gonna be about this. I think I only ever did one paper. I'm not sure why we didn't do any more papers the rest of the school the summer. But anyways, that was just to try to keep me a little sharp because I was in eighth grade and they were gonna force me to do that because they're like, well you're gonna you're gonna get better by doing this. It's like okay. you're gonna get better. I never had a problem like just reading books during the summer. Yeah. I more had a problem of like going outside and doing stuff sometimes. We have reverse problems. I I did not have any problem being outside for the entire day. But the the reading piece is still is still hard. So 'cause again, so like for you, the you know, you've got You've got one more you've got two more summers before the third summer, but that third summer then is, well, you're you're not going back unless you go to college or whatever, you're not going back to school. So then it's you're ne you never have summer break again. That was really a weird thing. I think it'll be different for you because you don't have younger siblings. But like that was really weird for me when I stopped having a summer break. And then like Hallie and Keela would text and they'd be like, What are you doing? And I'm like, Working? What are you doing? And then I'm like, right. You don't have you don't have anything that you like need to do because it's it's the summer. I'm so bored and not home. It is it is weird. I almost wonder, kind of like Thanksgiving. Where it's like, well, what what traditions, what things have made Thanksgiving kind of just in for a lot of people as a holiday? Like how did we how did we get to that? Is kind of how I wonder, how did we get to summer break being, and maybe you have thoughts on this? How did we get from It must be necessity. But My guess is that for a lot of guys, summer break almost was just more of like a a precursor or like a preview to what then not having a real summer break looked like. So like not having a coming back to school. Yeah. where now it's really nothing like what your life is after you graduate. For like that's kind of how it's been popularized is well. You're just gonna that or they're trying to make it seem like your entire life is gonna be like that the rest of the time. Yeah, which is a scam unless you've got if you're a billionaire. Great. If you're a billionaire, fine. But you're probably not, most lik I mean, very high likelihood you're not. 'cause that is kind of like the glam, the insta glam of you know, peak white boy summer, you know. is kind of then just advertised as like a year-round thing. But like you have to work. I mean there's there's no there's no way that that that actually works. So then it's kind of an interesting like how how did we get so far removed from what summer looks like in the future to what your summer looks like now. As an 11-year-old, great your summer should look different than what it looks like as an 18-year-old. When you're sixteen Are you sixteen? I am sixteen. Okay. Almost. 'cause like when you're sixteen, should your summer look like you're eleven or should it look closer to your graduating summer? What do you think? Does that make sense? Should I say that again? sure. So should we pick sixteen as an example because you're sixteen? Yeah. This is not this is purely a question. of principle, not about you. Should a sixteen year old's summer look closer to when they were eleven or for when they've graduated and they're not coming back to school? What should their summer should it look more like that summer or should it look more like the eleven year old summer when you're sixteen? Comment like and subscribe. Wherever you get your podcast. well, I think Yeah, that's interesting question. Yeah, I think we're gonna use that question. I think that is kind of the crux, I think, of this whole thing. And I I hope we get different answers. Yeah. I'm looking for I th the people watching are looking for different answers too. So you could also just lie right now and just say something crazy. It should look like you're eleven years old. Yeah. yeah, but no, what you think? I mean it's it's like kind of a hard question because you're saying this one or that one. Right. And like you're not for if for that question, you're not living leaving me much room to say it should look like you're 16 in the middle. It should be in the middle. It should look like 16. Because like there's like there's a thing to both of them. Because like, yeah, you want to hold yourself to a high standard. Okay. Graduation. Yeah. Obviously. But there's a thing where like, okay, clearly. This 16-year-old is not an 18-year-old. An 18-year-old. So 11. Yeah. So it's like, okay, there's there's something to both of them. Yep. And I mean, for me personally, I think like, okay, you're you're maturing as a young man going along. And I think yeah, technically it should probably look a little more like your graduation year. But you're 16. You're like you're maybe getting a job for the first time. You're you're you're maybe you're driving, maybe you're you're doing all these things. Well, and even for the job. Right. It's probably part time and should still have time to do Maybe it's an easy job too. Like maybe you're working at McDonald's or Walmart or something like that. Like it's not gonna be That's a hard job. Hey. I've never worked I don't know. I don't know. but like it's not gonna be probably the same job. Maybe it is. but you're like getting higher up in the positions when you're graduating. So it is still different. Mm-hmm. in either way. And if you're treating it right as a young man, like Each summer is gonna look more and more like your graduation summer, obviously. Yeah. But it's also gonna look if you're treating it right, like you're maturing every every year. And that's why it looks different, is because you're doing different things to make your summers better as you're gone. Yeah, that that's just kind of my outlook on it. But Yeah, 'cause that question does I kinda hope everybody says, Well, you're not really leaving a lot of room there. For a middle ground. And I do I agree that it's not because I did phrase it in a way that is, you know, what should it look more like? Not should it be an 11-year-old summer or should it be an 18-year-old summer. I don't think anybody would agree with that. The more like I actually do think we have people who don't think Like, I actually think America in general looks at summer more like it should like a summer for a guy should look more like their eleven. Your old summer. And again, eleven also you pick whatever pick whatever summer. I'm picking eleven because eleven is a fun number in my head. And it's not you're not actually just a little baby child. You know, you're not eight. So you can you probably have some more freedom, some more responsibility to go do some fun stuff. Right. 'cause that's and but your whole life when you're eleven is still looking for just fun. Right. When you graduate and again, yeah, sure the one percent, the point zero one percent that you don't need to go look for you can just keep looking for fun when you graduate. Okay. Highly unlikely. You probably need some money. That's me, but I already had a job and stuff. So I was He's just looking for fun. I'm just looking for fun in my free time. Sam's such a big looking for fun guy. Yeah. You well, you you look for fun, but it's it's different than how I would look for fun or how he would look for fun. But yeah, the I I think culturally we've fallen off a little bit on the you know, on the responsibility or the maturity side where it's Responsibility, maturity and then actually holding them accountable and expecting Yeah. I think we expect more and maybe not eleven. That that is kind of That's kind of a rage bait. That's kind of a rage bait number when it's going from 16 to 18, from 16 to 11. So I get it. But, you know, expect well, I think we've kind of just fallen off in terms of expecting maturity levels of a 16-year-old to be like 13, 14. And then when you're 18, it's 16. And then when you're and again, not not that there's real numbers associated to all those things, because some kids are more like a sixteen year old at fourteen. Some kids are more more like a sixteen year old when they're twelve. Like there there are just there are faster developing, faster maturing kids. Some of that's parenting, some of that's drive of the kid to be, you know, be better. but and when the cultural expectation of getting married is also at a much older age then changed again. What are we at? Thirty five? Is that like Normal. that might be crazy. Yeah, that might be the normal age. So I was I was thinking about this. If how old do you want to be when you're married? my gosh. This guy has been asked this question three times in the last forty-eight hours. That's crazy. You don't have to answer that. Okay. Or you can if you want to. I don't I don't care. I don't know. And where does your summer lead you and get in the And who are you marrying? No, I'm just if we're not there's not what that interview is turning into. Yeah. But stupid. Yeah. But the This episode is really about just telling Xander where he needs to put his life. That's right. This episode is sponsored by Tinder. No. What? well, that'd be crazy. That'd be a crazy sponsorship. You're not looking for that sponsorship. I doubt Tinder is aware that our podcast exists. So we're probably not gonna be getting any brand deals. Our episode should be sponsored by Rain. I mean, I think maybe our first our first Imagine he whips out another can of another thing. Maybe our first, our first like YouTube short should just be like a Tinder box and we just light it on fire. Wow. Yeah, that'd be weird. Well, we've really we've gotten off track here. but yeah, so I think the what that's what I was trying to say. So I did the math. Cause I was I was thinking, I was like, okay, typical marriage age, like expected. I mean, I don't know if it's actually 35, but let's say it's 35. It's probably lower than that. I could be a grandparent at 40. Yeah. A and a great grandparent by sixty, and a great great grandparent by eighty. Now that would require everybody to be getting married and having a child when they're twenty. so that would require Dallas when she's 20 to be married and have a kid. And that again, I'm not I'm not actually expecting that. Right. What I but when you start thinking about it like that, you're 35 or 40, and then you're a gr grandparent by fifty, sixty, you're missing two whole generations possibly, because you didn't get your act together. Right. Here's the thing. There are women I mean, if you're a guy. Women. There are women who are, you know, available to be so but that's that that is the problem though. My my dad was my dad said like a couple years ago, he's like, I'm not gonna be like disappointed in you. But I will be unless you're not married by thirty five. And he's like, then I disown him. He's like, 'cause there are so many girls that are your age or younger that like I mean, do like if if you're not married by thirty five, like what happened? Yeah. Well, and 'cause again, like again, cultural standards have fallen off and part of that is because church communities have gone away in some places. And that's those are the funny Instagram reels where it's like, you know where the best place to meet girls is? Church. You know, like 'cause the bar. Yeah. So like there you know, there are there's people, there's availability in terms of people out there, but it does require that guys are shaping up and girls are shaping up too. It's like we wanna ha we're gonna we'll have girls on the podcast as well. But eventually. Eventually. The Again, the issues just kind of come back to like, well, what does our what's our cultural expectation of maturity? And then how are we holding people accountable to that? So, you know. Then then you pick. So it is it's kind of arbitrary. But to some extent it's like, well, what's possible and what's reasonable? So what's possible? Well, a lot is possible. George Washington took over his dad's household because his dad died. Well, that's possible at 14 or whatever it was. Yeah, it's possible. Is that reasonable? Not now. And I think so some of the feasibility, some of the necessity has gone away in America because it's pretty good here. Like we don't generally have people dying of just random diseases on their properties, and then the 11-year-old's gotta take over. That's not happening normally. not that it doesn't happen, but it's rare. It's rarer than it was. And Also, our governmental restrictions on a lot of stuff would make it pretty difficult for an eleven-year-old to take over their their dad's role in the house because you can't drive, you can't buy a gun, you can't vote, you can't buy spray paint, you can't I can't paint my house of different colors. Yeah, you can't can't rent a cart. Like it just the amount of restrictions we have. So like I'm 20 going on 21 this year. Finally, woo. Man, they tell you turning 18 is great. It sucks. 16, fantastic. 18, this gap between 16 and 21, man. This the worst five years ever. The amount of restrictions, bro. And then and then this is the stupid thing. So like at 15 in some states, you can get a license and you can drive. I'm twenty. I can have a child. I can adopt a child. So like at eighteen, I could adopt a child. So I can adopt a child. I have a child. I'm married. Probably get a loan at the bank. I can rent a piece of you know, I can rent a place to live. I can work. And now I can vote, but I can't buy a gun. Or drink alcohol. When you're in charge of a family. When I have my own household. What? Like that that really but that shows you the stupidity, 'cause when you like on paper, well, no duh, I should be able to do those other things. I should have been able to do those other things earlier than that too. I wanna see an eighteen year old walk into a bar with a glass of like apple juice and just like sit there looking depressed on the counter at the bar just like What is my life come to? It's not a bad idea. Sweet. so I mean again, it's like, great. So then when I turn twenty-one and I can finally buy a gun and I can What what was the other one? I can drink alcohol. Drink alcohol. Great. And then I still can't rent a car. You can't rent a car? No, until you're twenty-five. That is that's an offense. What? That's a if you can't my goodness. If you you can drive at 18, but you can't rent a car at eight. But so again, so it's like, okay, well how so but we we as Christian Christian men, I think we can expect to be a higher level of mature, but part of the problem is you can't do a bunch of stuff that would go along with maturity and getting responsibility. So like the more mature you are, like as as a young man particularly, like guns and knives and weapons, like those are those are great tools to give to the young man at certain times to be able to have more responsibility, have something to take care of, but It's not even really legal to do so on your own property, sure, but I can't I still can't really be my own man at twenty. So like until I turn 25, I still can't fully be my own man. So that's the that is the government r restriction on who can be their own person. It just keeps getting pushed back further and further. But okay, you want to know the the extra thing that's done? State of Washington. This is this is where the state and federal government pieces that don't mix are so weird to me. Every state can choose their age for who can be governor. Okay. Some states it's just like presidency where it's like 35. Some states 30, some states 25, some states 21. It's 18 in the margin kit. I could be the governor and I can't own a gun or drink alcohol. We should drink for Or buy alcohol. I I can drink it if I'm on. like private property. So like if I'm at my parents' house I can drink it. I saw an article, Denise, that said the New Jersey court, a New Jersey court declared the bans on assault rifles unconstitutional. Ooh. Fantastic. Now we just need that to be applied. Every other state other than Texas. because they already got it good. Yeah. Yeah. So there's it really is though, like that is stupid. And that's a that's a glaring mist there on the federal and state government piece. Like there's no there's no cohesiveness there. I'm sorry, I can run the entire state and I can't buy a gun or buy alcohol. Okay. Yeah. This is it's a joke. Because there's there's no there's literally zero reason for that other than to restrict people from being their own their own person. So The independent person isn't really independent until they're twenty five. In in today's world, 'cause like renting a car, that's kind of a big deal. Like if you go somewhere and you'd rent a car, well, so like when we go to for Henry's wedding, shout out Henry. wait a game, you finally got it together. No, just kidding. It's we're gonna have to bike ride everywhere. I mean, literally, I'm gonna fly there and I'm not gonna be able to rent a car. Yeah. That's stupid. I'm traveling with my wife and baby myself at 21. I'll be 21 at that point, so at least I can buy a beer to handle the depression that I'll have. No. and I can't rent a car. Are you kidding me? But somebody else could lend me their car? This is this is ridiculous. That doesn't make any sense. There's so I don't know. It's I'm not upset about it. I I don't even care. No, just kidding. I care a lot and it's really Now is that by state? Like can you rent a car at twenty one if you're in like Indiana? I don't think so. Or pretty sure. Here, let's get the fat hey Jamie, look that up. No, just kidding, I'll look it up. So Xander, while he's looking that up. What's like the most difficult thing about going into summer from your hardworking school schedule that it was? what's what's the most difficult part about going into the summer break? staying productive. I think I think that if you if you want to be productive in your schoolwork, stay productive. did you find it? Guys, breaking news for myself and for what I just told you. Okay, so the minimum national age to rent a car in the US is 21. Okay. So then it's left up to the states to though major agencies like Hertz allows rentals starting at age 20. State laws in New York and Michigan mandate a minimum age of 18. Drivers under 25 face a daily young renter surcharge. So the between the ages of like 21 and 24, you're gonna expect to pay an extra daily fee, often ranging from $15 to $35, depending on the location and agency, unless using a corporate discount or qualifying through certain insurance replacement policies. So renters under 25 are often limited to specific car classes. You may not be permitted to rent premium SUVs, luxury cars, or passenger vans. Probably not motorcycles either. So Have you heard of it? So it basically it looks like there are some state limitations. So like Alabama and Nebraska, the minimum is 19. Other states minimum is generally 21. So what it comes down to, then I suppose is the agency that you're renting from. So that that is good news. That's fantastic, but still stupid. Like at if here's the thing if I'm allowed to have my own license at 16, I should be allowed to rent a car. And and fine, you want to pay you want me to pay more. That is understandable. Just like you would pay a lesser, so just yeah, just like if you're an employer, you're gonna pay your employee less because they have less experience, fine. You do whatever you want. That is capitalism. Don't legally restrict it though. So, right, if it costs more for me to rent a car at 18 than it does at 25, fine. I can I can manage that and I can stomach that. But actually just restricting the entire thing. W what? 'Cause and 'cause like the running running the nation being limited to thirty five plus. Fine. I that one I I can kind of see, right? Because you could have somebody who's really charismatic. So for instance, Trump, if Trump had been 28, he wasn't interested in politics at that point, but if Trump had been 28 and was interested in presidency, and at that point, let's say it was 25, you could be president. Trump would have had a legitimate shot at getting people behind him because Trump is charismatic. Trump is the kind of person that again, and he's still doing it, which is he's either polarizing to you, so you either love him or you hate him. That's really it. There's nobody who's like, I don't know about Trump. It's no no no. You like him or you you don't like him. And even when you like him, there's still some stuff that he does where you're like, bro, really? Why why are you doing that? One of those things that the people who hate him can't argue with that he does. Right. So let's say he had wanted to do that. If he had had zero experience at that point, like any kind of and that is that but here's the thing. They argued that when he was running and he was 65 or whatever. What whatever whatever he was when he ran that first time in twenty twenty sixteen, they acted like he because he didn't have any experience at that point either, he shouldn't do it. George Washington didn't have any experience. No. This is the whole point. Is that actually some of the guys who are doing some of the great stuff, yeah, they didn't have any experience. So it does it doesn't r it matters to some extent, but like you're gonna figure it out pretty quick and the way that the government is set up with the checks and balances system, it's not like we're hiring a king. at twelve saying, well hopefully you can run the country. It's like actually there's a lot of the system that's set up to allow to actually allow a younger person to to run. However, it might actually take till you're thirty five to kind of understand the system. Right. Well and the thing is is like Like, young Republican guy's gonna get in office as president. Look out next. He he he he he's young, he can go for years. That's not how a presidential system works. I mean he can only run for a certain amount of time. He can only go for four years and then if he gets reelected, he can only go for another four years. So it's not however we look at it the same way but in a negative with Whoever the left's gonna put on the table to run for the presidency in twenty twenty eight, that is not gonna be good. Who whoever it is, if they get somebody in there like the the New York mayor, we're gonna have problems. We're gonna have a lot of problems. And it's gonna happen pretty fast because The people who are trying to slow Trump down in some of the court systems are not gonna slow down Zoromundami or whatever whatever his name is. Mm-hmm. I wonder how he uses his number. We should have him on the podcast. Call him up. Yeah. Call him up. No, but anyways. So kinda we kind of went a little longer than we we expected to. But anyways. How would you how would you sum up? your your main take on summers for students about how they should look at them and the things they should be doing with their with their summer. They should be prepping for whatever well, yeah, first they should know what classes they're gonna be taking. I mean you get a syllabus, well hopefully you get a syllabus when you when you first get to school, but Ideally you should know what classes you're gonna be taking and be talking to your parents about the best way to approach that class 'cause I'm sure they've taken very similar classes. I mean, what's the what's it called when you can choose what classes you want? Elective. Elective. Like, yeah, my parents took some of the collectives. We do not have as much of that here. like added it two years ago. Yeah. was like one. Yeah. Yeah. But prepping for as much of it and I don't know if you need to be doing well, actually I'm gonna say I do not think you need to be doing as much schoolwork. If you want to call it homework, fine, because you're at home. But I don't think you need to be doing as much homework as you are at at school during the summer. I think if you want to read a book, I'm reading one book. Well, okay, two books. Bible and It's Good Be a Man. I think that is helpful because I I'm reading. It I like reading. Sometimes I would rather be doing other stuff, but It's helpful and it's beneficial for going into the next school year. 'cause We're reading like what, four hundred page books in the matter of two weeks. Mm-hmm. And sometimes that's not very fun with algebra or so something. Just as a hypothetical example, yeah. Yeah. And I'm not I'm not reading that amount of pages in that amount of weeks over summer. I am reading. I am staying active in my reading, but I am not going to read as much in the school year. I yeah, like I said earlier, I think that it would it's beneficial for you to know your all your classes and to prep for them. Yeah, I mean I have other stuff that I can be doing in the summer as well. but in terms of schoolwork, I think prepping is beneficial, but also not not giving as much attention to it as you would be during the school year. Yeah. Yeah. I think we tend to agree with that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But also even if we didn't, who cares? Yeah. This is great. It's America. And I mean we didn't I mean I don't know if we fully answered the qu your question eleven, sixteen eleven at sixteen should be leaning to the summer of an eleven year old or eighteen year old. But I think I would lean more towards the eighteen year old. like graduating. I'm gonna graduate when I'm nineteen, but I think I I mean I have a part time job actually two part time jobs over the summer and I'm learning a lot of stuff that I can use after I'm graduated and I think that's beneficial as well. So yeah. I think leaning towards more graduated summer would be helpful. Yeah. Yeah. You heard it here, folks. That's right. Datavice. Mm. Mm. This guy. Something about the summer that I haven't said yet for dads. Don't worry, you're only gonna have to do this about 15 more times. Right. Yeah. I need to re-listen to the episode to make sure I'm not saying the same thing. I don't know. I could just say the same thing. Word for word every week. The same dad advice for the rest of the summer. I well, you could do that, but probably not. We try to be creative. Hey guys, d while Sam's thinking, like and subscribe, leave a comment wherever you get your podcasts. Well actually, yeah, leave a I mean, the only places I think we're gonna really see the comments are YouTube and Spotify. So comment there or comment on Facebook. So we'll we'll do our best to reply 'cause we don't have that many listeners. So we we'll get back to you. We like keep the relationships good. Share it with folks if you can. Yeah. Guys, we need money. No. Okay. So while you're encouraging your kids to work hard, spend the summer well and everything, do make sure to bring them around on like hikes or fun fun trips and other and other activities. Go shooting. Go shoot some slingshots in the woods. That's fun. Do outdoor activities, do indoor activities, play card games after dinner before you go to bed, stuff like that. Like make it an enjoyable time that's not just cram work down your throat because you got time to do it in between the school year. So be the right kind of encouragement and the right kind of activity bringer for your kids. I agree with that. As a dad. Flex. Flex, yeah, just just a subtle one. all right guys, that'll it for this episode. Thank you for listening. Xander, thanks for being here. It's great. Good to have you on again. And catch you guys next time. Choice men signing off. Peace.