Quantum Dispatch: Welcome. The Dontum Chris Patch, ⁓ the Quantum Dispatch podcast, ⁓ where I believe we will be having a ⁓ a little look ahead at the roadmap update, and also just the fingers finest of evenings to you. Thank you for triggering the chism there, one dark. I really enjoy that phrase. ⁓ we'll be having a look ahead at the roadmap and what is to come this year for Star Citizen. Obviously, there is a lot going on right now, but what we want to focus on is what's coming up, what we're looking forward to, and ⁓ yeah, the change. That we'll have on the game going forward. So we will go to the brighter than ever, CJ Radley, ⁓ who is shining bright in the light he has coming from behind his monitor. As you can see, he is absolutely buzzing. ⁓ for ⁓ for our listeners, his face was full of enthusiasm, and yes, that was sarcasm. CJ, over to you. Hey, right. I often do have enthusiasm. You do. It's just on topics that aren't related to to the podcast. ⁓ but yes, there is a very bright light. ⁓ one dark asked me to put my light on because I was too dark and now I'm too bright. Well can't win. I think if you have the light on you but you turned off your room light, you'd end up with what we've got. Alright, we'll that in a second. No longer the darkest of enigmas. Super ⁓ but yeah. I am all good. How are we all? Who has been keeping up with the news and what have we been doing? We have been we've been like the the god Atlas holding up the quantum dispatch end of the streams and like making sure people get the drops. Almost almost two weeks. Last couple of slides. Not so much. No, but ⁓ for for probably the week and a half prior to that, ⁓ myself and One Dark Enigma have been getting online and also meeting up and getting together with other ⁓ star sits and creators to allow you wonderful patrons to be able to get your drops, ⁓ to be able to sub if you wish to to get your Banu Lockbox cube. ⁓ it's been a mixed bag in terms of results of how the streams have gone. ⁓ the one stream I brought out the golem, I mined what I needed to mine and then the ship wouldn't move, so that was fun. but we have had that is an issue. That's not a source is an issue, that's a that's an us issue. That's a skill issue. That's a press the Z button twice. Probably. It's probably me missing something and just being a boomer when it comes to games. But ultimately it's been a lot of fun. We met a whole load of new people. ⁓ yeah. And to be honest, I've really enjoyed it. So you had creators on. Who who who you played with? So other Star Citizen streamers. So we played ⁓ with a streamer called Riddick, ⁓ who is a absolute stand-up human being. ⁓ and we had a lot of fun ⁓ both doing like cargo hauling and doing missions. We went into the ASD facilities, ⁓ we did mining, we did some of like the new starter stuff. It was good fun. Pete, you look ⁓ you look very confused. What's up? Yeah, we've got Knight saying that I've got wrong Greek mythology. This is Atlas holding up the earth. You stand corrected, sir. Test me on my Greek mythology. Like I'm just gonna throw that out there. This Bro, I know Atlas. Okay. I mean, if he really wants to get in the weeds of it, he's holding up the heavens or the sky or eternity. Yeah. He was a Titan, not a god. ⁓ is it Titan? Okay, fine. What's the difference? ⁓ Pythons are Titans and gods are gods. Alright, glad we closed that out. So CJ, you were gonna say something? ⁓ yeah. ⁓ so obviously shouting out Reddick and chat now. ⁓ yes, absolutely. If you haven't already, please go and drop him with following. Awesome. We had a raid. Well I had a raid, I was doing the solo stream. And I was on my own for about forty minutes. It was a really quiet night for Star Citizen. It was one of these nights where people were watching the stream as they like, not the game. And we had Citizen Spooner that was live with 250 people. And I was just like, ⁓ I'm just gonna I'm just gonna close this stream off, whatever. Like it's you know, it's not it's not having the best night, like it's quiet. I'd done a whole week of streams and I was tired And I was like five minutes from turning in the mission, going back and quitting out, and then boom, Spooner raided with 253 people. I was like, ⁓ no. And they're like, get raided, fool. I'm trying to think. So the biggest ⁓ if we're going off on a small tangent here, I used to stream F1 Manager back when that first released. I love that game. Great fun. ⁓ but I got raided by ⁓ Lewis Hamilton's brother, who was playing F one and streaming at the time and he came in with a raid. I think that was like a hundred and eighty, a hundred and ninety people at the time. And that for me was just blew my mind. That put it was only like twenty one was the maximum people I'd had in a stream at any one time. And all of a sudden for chat to be going ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. I was like, I am overwhelmed but incredibly grateful. Thank you. I'd say a shout out to Spooner, can you Hash ⁓ it's ⁓ forward slash shout out and then type the so do you want me to do it for Reddick as well. So it's shoutout. I didn't know that was a thing. ⁓ Riddick. Yeah. Is it X Ridic X or is it X underscore Riddick? X underscore Was it X X Ridic X? ⁓ Mm-hmm. Let me look for my kiss kiss ridiculous. Yeah, it X Riddick X. Yeah, you're supposed to. No one scores. This is this. That's just me being. Well, I to wait another minute and seven seconds before doing that. Unbelievable. ⁓ but yes. So honestly, bear the ⁓ waiting for that Corsair Cowboy collab. Nice. ⁓ I'm excited. Because they did say with the lever action rifle, there's gonna be a cowboy ⁓ thing. Because on Twitter somebody asked. ⁓ about it. I can't remember who it was asked about it, but then Jared responded to it saying, You think we didn't think of that already? Already on it. ⁓ you've got to wake up early to be ahead of me or something like that, isn't it? ⁓ yeah. Yeah, that's it exactly. ⁓ excited for the August ship pipeline tracker, says Smith of Dreams. Yes. Is he living in the future? Yeah. Our currents says it's a Yeah, yeah, it came out two days ago, wasn't it? So there was updates on the There was updates on the Kraken. Didn't it get through Greybox, I think they were saying? Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ the wrong one. Or approaching. Yeah, past review, I think. So Kraken's coming along nicely, which is very exciting. The what's the repair, refuel, and rearm ship that's meant to be coming? I'm trying to remember the name of it. Vulcan? Anvil ⁓ The Liberator. There was news on the News on the Liberator. No, it's a liberator. Get the terms right. there's a crucible. I don't know. I I've I I'm probably getting those mixed up. I know how you have it's a pocket carrier. ⁓ it's a carrier, but I'm just saying pocket carrier because Hyperion always gets offended. Because his carrier is is not a pocket, it's an entire trouser leg. exactly. ⁓ then there was updates to the galaxy. somewhat I wouldn't say controversially, I think it's divided opinion because ⁓ from the original concept they've then brought up the ⁓ here is the look at the bridge in its earliest concept, and people are going, ⁓ so it's just the Perseus bridge with some slight details changed. And I think they were hoping for something completely different. ⁓ what would you say your thoughts are on that, Wandark? I don't know if you've seen it or had a chance to to think about it or sorry, I was reading something. That's okay. I was saying, ⁓ the Galaxy Bridge. Have you seen the sneak peek of it? ⁓ yes. Yeah, we did. Obviously it's something that's in the works. ⁓ it's definitely not fleshed out. Things change. Things change with the ironclad. Mm. Between when they was doing their stuff and before it came out. So and He's shaking his head because there was problems when it came out. I n we know. No, no. My my my shaking of the head is not how they got all got around those problems. ⁓ and basically just turning the bridge that was on the ironclad into a bridge rather than fix the bugs up. No, no, no. What I mean is they had that that same area, but it it was formed differently, and then when they did their internal playtests, there was Like the devs were g trying to get to a point on the ship where they were really meant to be. So they changed the layout so that it could accommodate that. So people could also see out So things change, man, in general. ⁓ but I I fully I I'm I'm I'd be happy with it. 'Cause the reason why they're working on all the RSI ships, right, is so they design language controls. Yeah, yeah. So they can just control C control V assets. And they all copy an entire the entire thing. Room, isn't it? Or like corridor or yeah. It's a similar sized ship. Like if you think about the size of it, it is similar. The Polaris has a different bridge because it's a different sized ship. But ultimately, the bridges aren't going to be too different from ships of very similar size. So I kind of get it. I'm not I'm not bothered. ⁓ if they released what have we got loads of ships coming out of that's the same sort of similar sort of size. Like there's there's the bit they've been the Kruger about to bring out another one, aren't they? So it'd be interesting to see how close in like we've already seen some of the sneak peeks, some of the stuff looks similar to the Alpha Wolf and the ⁓ the wolf and stuff like that. So Yeah, so the yeah, we've get we're getting the stingray soon. ⁓ which be which would be quite nice. ⁓ but I mean obviously it's not something I'm gonna Five, it's not the ship I'm interested in. But it all ship you're interested in yet. No. And I I see people saying control C control V parts of the ship, but this is just brand it's just on brand, you know, you want your ships to look like the other ships. ⁓ all of the MISC ships all look the same. Yeah. That's because they're complaining about this. I think I think it's the It could also be because there's a lot going on in the in the in everywhere at the moment. sting racing music in my head again. Thanks. Nice. ⁓ it because there's lots going on at the moment. So it could just be this has come out at a bad time where all of a sudden they're going, Well, this this has annoyed me, which I get, I do get, because people see the original concept and they go, ⁓ I love that. It looks incredible, looks awesome. And there's always going to be changes. And I was just thinking this before CJ said it, so he's absolutely read my mind. Is actually while they've been developing these things, the Galaxy Yeah, yeah, I've got it. Thanks, CJ. for those who don't know, we just shared mind waves. ⁓ but we basically of of going, they will naturally develop a new style. And you know, the style of the bridge on the galaxy, if you look at it and in comparison to the concept art for the bridge of the Polaris originally, they look similar in their styling. Now the Polaris bridge changed, and then the Perseus bridge changed, and now the Galaxy Bridge is gonna change. Now It's not going to be exactly the same ⁓ as the Perseus, because you know, some people have pointed out already the the middle pilot seat is further back, the other two are further forward, the exterior looks different, there's less of the armor paneling, more open areas, more glass. And like we said, that's only just the base of it now. And hopefully they've taken the good things that they've done with the Perseus and gone, let's relay this to the to the ⁓ galaxy. ⁓ so yeah, I will I will keep my fingers crossed. I'm I'm hopeful because I've waited a while for this ship and Like CJ said, the design language is gonna change and it'd be foolish of them to go with something that has worked and then backtrack on it. But but although Nightfighters say, but then look at the ⁓ original, it looks so much better. That's subjective. Yeah, i exactly. Like we we won't know until it ⁓ until it releases and it's it is opinion as well. It's subjective, like like one. But that's it though, like yeah. it looks this the similar ⁓ the cockpit looks the same and or very similar. But you go through all of the ships cockpits. You've got the Aurora ⁓ Aurora Mark IIs going on to now the Zeus going on to like you got just go through the the ship ⁓ sizes ⁓ through the Connies and even the Connies are old cockpits and they may get redone with a Mark II which let's face it there will when whatever money flow they've got stems out. ⁓ and then you you go into the the now the Galaxy, now the Perseus and the Polaris. Cockpits all look the same anyway. They've all got the same design language. It's just the size of the cockpit that's made the difference. So if it's a similar size to the Perseus, why does it not just have a Perseus cockpit? What's the point? Don't need to reinvent the wheel. So I guess the the caveat to that would be over civilian over military. 'Cause Perseus' military weather's the galaxy is supposed to be more civilian based. So I I guess that could be a ⁓ if I'm devil's advocating it here a little bit, but hopefully there's some but then a British Army Land Rover is the same as a normal civilian Land Rover with just different things inside of it. It the functionality is the same, the layout's the same. So it's just got more thrown in for a military one. Just a grenade instead of a coffee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's one of those where like the military cockpit should be the same as the civilian one with extras if you want to go down that route. ⁓ but yeah, I mean I don't really care. ⁓ RSI that has so far pulled every ship out of the bag that they've released with this new design language tech, in my opinion. got the Zeus, still wearing them one more. The Perseus, Plot, ⁓ Are we waiting on two more? Yeah, the ⁓ the ⁓ R and ⁓ the ES. Yeah, so we're still waiting on those two. ⁓ and then we've got the Arastra. Surprise, surprise, the Arashtra is probably gonna be very similar. Yeah. ⁓ do you know why? Because it's RSI. Because it's RSI and that's their design language, yeah. Yeah. Wonder what the cockpits of the whole D and the Hull E's are gonna look like. Hmm. I wonder. Probably they're very similar to the whole C, just maybe a bit bigger. ⁓ so you think we'll see a complete redesign of the entire RSI lineup, or are we just gonna see further iterations, much like we've got the Aurora Mark I, Mark II? I don't think there's gonna be much more going on with with RSI. No, I agree. So the only caveat that the only thing that's gonna be majorly different is gonna be the ⁓ Orion. But every other ship is kind of like there. So I think their their roster's already fleshed out enough, isn't it? There's there's other manufacturers that don't have enough. Well I say don't have enough, don't have a a a full roster of ships. RSI is like that's the poster baby, isn't it? That's the poster boy, you know. You'd say Anvil, but it's Robert Space Industries. You know, that's the poster boy, those ships are the poster boys. That's the literal website name. Yes. ⁓ so I it it lore it's the richest as well, isn't it, of all of the manufacturers. So I think once they've got rid of the ships that they're currently doing, they shouldn't they shouldn't really be going back and mark two in any of them. Like I don't believe they should mark two the Connies purely because the Connie itself is is the the poster boy. That is the ship. ⁓ they should goal pass it. They need to goal pass it, you know, for ⁓ physical components. And if that changes it slightly, fine, but the ship is Yeah, exactly. And the ship is already really good. I don't believe there's any magic that happens in the ship. I d like component magic. I think everything could fit somewhere. maybe a couple of things. But just just sacrifice something else or make something fit. ⁓ but I don't think any of the Connies should should get mark two'd. ⁓ I know they will purely because it's it's a whole heap of money for the Mark Twos. Because they're Connie's. Yeah. Exactly. ⁓ but then they shouldn't mark two the Connies until they have a mark two Kruger, or if they're gonna keep the the the ⁓ the Kruger snubbers the same, then obviously it's fine, but I yeah, I don't think I don't think they should mark two it. There's there is enough space there by the looks of it for everything to sort of fit. So I don't really see why. ⁓ it's just the look is quite dated now, isn't it? Yeah, but it's as is the mis freelancer series very data. Give it a little give it a little brush, give it a little fix up. That's what I mean. That's what I think they'll do in the goal passes. ⁓ this is what I hope. Sorry, let me rephrase that. This is what I hope they'll do in the goal passes. Is that cause they they they've said by one point ⁓ they need to goal pass everything because everything needs physicalized components. If on the Connie's 'cause I know the Connies are ⁓ the space inside is well built. So it utilizes everything. So whether or not they might just need to bump something out or create an extra compartment or just create an extra edge or something where they have to put a component. potentially, ⁓ depending on what size they are. I hope they just go and they just like you said, just a little bit of brushwork. You know, just to bring it up to standard, smooth an edge, remove a a window and put something there instead of like a a panel or something like that, just to give it that look. ⁓ Yeah. I don't know if I don't know if it listen if for listeners home wherever I should say this comment that we've just No, I just leave it. No, watch watch the VOD back. Watch the VOD back on twenty one minutes and five seconds and look for spike six K. There we go, that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah. There there is obviously things that that they do need to do with like the that like Smith Dream says it's got the Docu ports. ⁓ so the Docking Ports don't work properly. But then that's the same with a lot of ships. The cutlasses, they're not going to go back and redo the cutlasses because the cutlass red has a docking port that doesn't work. So but they're not going to go back and redo those. I think they should just make those work. They're not going to mark two every ship that's got a docking port. Like the Zeus's have docking ports, don't they? ⁓ on the on the side, like the doors, that they're like docking ports, aren't they? Yeah. And to be fair, yeah, they'll pick up the Percy, yeah, and they've released a ship that doesn't have working docking ports. still because the Perseus docking ports are still very balked out ⁓ apparently. So but it's okay because you can request a an actual hanger now as the as the go to if there's one available. I I flew to Levsky and my Perseus and my my Polaris and got a hanger. Blew my mind. Blew my mind. Nothing like adding a workaround to fix an actual bug. Yes. ⁓ but yeah. So I think there's there's obviously a definite time and a place for Mark Twos and that should be small fighters where physicalized components isn't really like possible to to increase the ship size itself. The Mark Two, ⁓ Aurora, kinda get it. The F sevens, I don't get it, because you can't remove components from those ships anyway. So what's the point? ⁓ Just having magic. But ⁓ well. ⁓ Magic. Certain ships don't need a Mark II. We only really we know why there's a Mark II, just ⁓ for ship sales. But yeah, I think there's a time and a place. Any of the larger ships don't require it. Yeah. So so I think going back to Wandark's point, I don't think I don't know what else RSI would would release after this. I think they've got a really built out roster now. I think they'll start focusing on other things. They'll wanna like they want a generalist alienship, don't they? So they want to, you know, especially if we're gonna start meeting alien races more often, if we're gonna actually see Banu in game, if we're actually gonna see or see more of the Vandal. Like and then the what's the is the Jian is the other alien race? They're gonna have to start bulking out those other the graze market ships have just come in so they're gonna have to bulk or that ⁓ bolster that roster out. ⁓ trying to think what other ship manufacturers we don't have much of. ⁓ there's a little ship called Banu Merchant. I don't know. Yeah, so you got the BM. ⁓ yeah. Obviously the only things in the Banu line currently is the BM BM and the Defender. ⁓ so and then you've got the Van Doel. ⁓ the only Van Doel ship is the Scythe. ⁓ And the ⁓ it this thing is Aspiria, isn't it? Yeah, that's why it is yeah. It it's yeah, it's the actual Vandal. Because the rest of them are ⁓ Aspiria workarounds. ⁓ so I can kind of I would like to see the blade and the glaive and the scythe all get redone as Vandal ships, which then have Aspiria versions. Which I believe they're supposed to be updating them For Squadron forty two, aren't they? And then porting it over to the PU, so we're supposed to see those new updated versions of them. This is one thing I'm waiting for. So we we all know the Idris that we have in game isn't the Idris that we'll have. the entire internals have been completely redone for squadrons. I thought internals were squadron, external was Okay, internal or external, whatever it is. So they're waiting on squadrons to drop before they can actually give everyone the correct Idris, which I believe is also now the case for the Javelin, because the Javelin would basically have stuff that's in squadron already, because there are javelins. ⁓ if there's s other ships in there, like the Connie's, the Conny's might have already been gold passed. And there's there's hammerheads in there, there's Retaliators in there, there's ⁓ like F sevens, there's F eight Cs, there's F F eight A's, I think Yeah, F seven X's. Yeah. I'm expecting a lot of ships to very quickly, once they've gone through the whole multiplayer ism updating from squadrons. I do hope once squadron drops, like the next major patch, they're like, Yeah, sick, here's fifteen ships. Or here's five new ships and ten updated ships. Yeah. ⁓ and updated visuals, updated guns, updated like yeah, yeah. ⁓ do you remember three point two four? Do you remember 3.24? They literally dropped like a shed load of. Yeah. So you know that that patch was still in. They dropped a a shed load of stuff, didn't they? Of quality of life updates and changes and things that were coming over. And I remember that being a huge patch. Yeah. And I think the only reason we got those is because we saw like the gameplay, or we were seeing the gameplay and the leaked gameplay. So now everyone's gonna go, ⁓ there's that ship. Ooh. That looks different. So now they've got to release it, right? ⁓ so I'm kind of hoping that they do just turn around ⁓ after squadron releases and go, Here, here's a here's the Mark II hammerhead. Or here is here's the javelin. The javelin will be done at that point, hopefully. 'Cause I mean, you're walking around inside of one. I was gonna say, I feel like it has to be. If 'cause you're you're running around inside of like you correctly say, you're running around inside of one on in the game play leak, is you're going to the bridge and you're running through different sections, you're running from your turrets. They have to know what the interior looks like. and so they're wait they're saving it because is it the next patch, I think, if you get a four star or higher or five level four or five quantum ⁓ criminal rating, they'll send a javelin after you and like security. ⁓ people have obviously glitched into them and there's nothing inside other than a bridge and an in an invincible dude sat in the pilot seat. ⁓ to try to try and stop us stealing them like we do every single time they put these things in the PU. Yeah. ⁓ so I'm hoping very quickly we see the javelin. We see Javelin variant as well, because there is javelin variants. ⁓ then I mean, how far does it go? ⁓ mining javelin. Well, there's bengels in squadrons. So And there's gonna be Bengal in the PU as well. Yeah, so there's gonna be Bengles in the PU, we're gonna be able to build ⁓ How very how quickly are we gonna be able to get our hands on on a Bengal in the verse? PU drops. I'm not gonna lie, I hope I hope it's months. I genuinely hope it's months, and that's months of somebody being on and just I tell you, get one of them in a hangar? Yeah, probably not, Smith, probably not. I I really hope it's months. I hope it drops and it's actually someone was like, I spent a thousand hours in Star Citizen to get the the the biggest ship available, to make the biggest ship available. I hope that's what it is. Instead of just like, I found a duping glitch that gave me a bengal in three days. And you know, just I really that video would be told I spent a thousand hours in Star Citizen, so you didn't have to. Hmm. Right. I'm gonna derail us slightly. We'll go back to CJ. CJ was like ⁓ well RSI got a few fleshed out line up. What are they gonna do after this? I saw this months ago and I'd like to bring this up here. I would love to see manufacturers go out, now this is minifig scale to create these large almost like land crawlers. Now I know you would need a huge groundhanger to be able to build and and share. So this is two stories. I would love to see something akin to this. Once we get more points of interest in the game, once you know what we saw at CitizenCon Manchester is developed and it's all in the system and Genesis and you know they had the ⁓ different areas and they cross over and they're sort of like they're built upon each other. Yeah. I'd love to see stuff like this from RSI, from Anvil. I feel like it would come from Anvil. So I I actually think, right, the reason why we don't see a huge influx or an equal influx in ground vehicles Is because firstly we're waiting for Genesis and Planet V five. And secondly, we're waiting for bait wait waiting for bait and building. We're waiting for base building. And once we got both them things, then all of a sudden your cars don't bump off a rock and explode anymore. Then we could finally get down to the nitty gritty, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, so I think once these two things are in the game, they'll then go w there's actually a reason for us to release ground vehicles now because beforehand Let's just face it, if they re when they release a ground vehicle at the moment we go, okay and it's but that's because the physics aren't there. I'm sure it just just becomes exactly that's exactly what I mean. Yeah. Just look at that. That's that'd be so sick to be involved in the vehicle like that. I can imagine sort of like when ⁓ science and exploration style gameplay comes into it, this could be a very valuable sort of vehicle. And you could like because well I mean if it does it exactly as it there, you've got scanning, you so you'll have science, you'll have exploration, you could have like ⁓ small rock mining for like mining valuable resources or something like that while you're going. You could have you could even have underground mining if you 'cause let's just face it, they'd make the back modular, right? So the modular, ⁓ deploy mobile bases. Drone tech. Yep, drone tech. ⁓ Corsair Cowboy very rightly says mobile deployable base. that makes me think back sick. That made me think back to red alert. That's what that makes me think of. Yeah. Acknowledged. Yeah. Acknowledged. Affirmative. It would be good, but it will like it would be really cool if it was a a mega sort of like modular platform. ⁓ so you would have basically that vehicle and then you could put a basic a well drilling sort of like module on it. And you could go out and you can drill like the materials. 'Cause we know obviously Pioneer and stuff like that is all gonna be able to harvest ⁓ underground materials through its landing gear. So something similar. And then you could potentially swap it out to a cargo variant which can carry like a like an Arctic, like a a low loader truck that can just carry like a couple of hundred SEUs of cargo. Yeah. But my caveat to that will be why would you? There needs to be a reason why why would you do it? Why would you? No immersion. But why would you? I I have an answer to that. But go on then. You sure? ⁓ because ⁓ you started. No, I'm let's hear what you gotta too. You're intrigued by what want to say. Okay. volatile atmosphere planets. I think if you can get a base down somewhere, it's difficult to do, but get a base down somewhere that resource rich, but it's a nightmare to fly in. There's constant storms, everything else, something like that. The only feasible way of getting to there is by these really well built mobile ground based platforms because it's too dangerous or too risky to fly. Maybe the pressure at the surface is is too high. Maybe the v ⁓ the heat is too high. Yeah. Yeah. It could be That would that would be that would be my hope. And you know what? I really hope there's more things like they they tried to do it, didn't they? And I feel like they did kind of do it ish with the the Valakar. Like the going get the Valakar fangs and not being able to fly down through those storms 'cause you'd get EMP'd basically by the storms. I want more of that. I want more of where we're gonna have to land here cut and the only way forward is through the storm and you ain't getting there in a ship. ⁓ you know, some old grizzled vet who knows the routes between the forests to get to where the station is. Like, I want that. I really want that. Okay. So the reason why I think that a vehicle like this, in the form that you were talking about, CJ, is like mining and stuff is gonna be valuable is you can conduct shallow scans for instance. We know that CRG are willing to go super in depth with their planets where they've got soil deposits and you know water erosion, wind erosion, everything is taken into consideration, very much like a living breathing planet. So it's a feasible idea that pioneer for instance can come in and go scan and say, okay, there's resources roughly here and there. We're sort of detecting the these sort of elements at surface deposits. Same as prospecting in the eighteen hundreds in the World World West is okay, we've found a couple of bits of gold here. Well cool. Then you're gonna hone in on that area, you're gonna start doing deep level excavation. This could be the step beyond that. So it's a mobile base that goes around, it's got a crane on the back that lifts up and drills down into the ground. And then it provides ⁓ you can start doing like sensor checks underneath the the ground, really getting a good grasp of where those resources are located on the planet. Like so we know CIG want to go deep, let's stay on that track I guess. That's where something like this would also come in handy, as opposed to just the pioneer landing and doing essentially the same thing to mine down for resources. So if they're willing to like go, okay, we can only scan so far, you then need to conduct a ground survey with vehicles like this before bringing in The heavy machinery and going right, okay, this is now a mining location. That's so that's the only way they're gonna make it useful is if they basically nerf the ships to a point where it makes sense. ⁓ environmentally environmentally nerf the ships, I think. Or it can be like if a deposit is too deep down the specific equipment you need. Like I I was thinking if for example the pioneer sure can detect stuff, but maybe there's really deep minerals that are too canyons. For example, you can't get a pioneer in there. ⁓ And it's deposit you could only reach with ⁓ somewhere like this. Yeah, so with prospecting was you know, it happened in rivers and what is and they go, Okay, cool, we're finding flakes of gold here, it must be upstream. And then they're conducting further searches, further searches until they go, Right, let's excavate here. We're sure that there's gold here. You know, and that's gonna be the same across the board for all the resources in the game. It's like there's surface deposits here. There's a higher chance that it's gonna be in this location, but over how many kilometers, let's hone it down with the ground search. This is where you bring in low load on ⁓ conveniently on the Valkyrie variant I've talked about, where you get rid of the back end and it's just the you know, you pick ⁓ up and you drop it off. ⁓ and then you conduct a search in that area. Much like if you need to go and search under underwater, you take the sub out on a ship, then you drop the sub in. Daniel listening. Danny listening. Like an eight ninety. I I would genuinely love to see ground vehicles being useful. ⁓ so we know. Yeah. We know the Atlas platform's getting a new variant. ⁓ obviously for base building. I'm hoping the Atlas platform goes modular. Maybe that's a starter sort of ground vehicle for like exploration. So maybe it have the same features as as the the one that you're envisaging envisaging? The the one that you're thinking of. ⁓ So maybe maybe maybe there will be that. ⁓ so and then this version is just gonna be the larger, basically late game ground vehicle, ⁓ would be quite cool. And then you wouldn't even need to build a base. People could like play the game as nomads with like four trucks and then just driving it around. Yeah. 'Cause like so I know someone And actually we all ⁓ we know all know someone who at a point played for a whole entire patch just living out of one vehicle. ⁓ and basically like bedlogging in the vehicle, growing, going down, living living off the land kind of thing. And that would be really cool, even like if you could play for a an entire patch or like give it like a month and not have to get in a ship. There's more to the game than flying ships. If you enjoy the whole prospecting side of things you could have this along with your other buddies and you literally just like sharing the ship at the point where you can share ships or sh vehicles in this case. You can all bedlog and you almost take it almost like shifts. Think about it, okay cool. ⁓ no you just put message in Discord, hey guys, I found this deposit. Let's call in the aerial guys. Like as part of a big call in Swanky and his pioneer. Like he's he's chilling in orbit above. I he logged out in orbit above the planet. We found a deposit, get him online quick. Yeah. ⁓ like I'm living out of my Polaris at the moment, and I have been for the whole of this patch. And I'm absolutely loving it. And it's just waking up in in the captain's quarters, getting out, going for a second, checking on the cargo hold. What did I get last time? ⁓ yeah, that was it. Cool. Let's work through this. I've put my ⁓ what is it, my ⁓ fabricator in the Polaris. And I'm like, cool. So I need to collect a bit more of that before I go. I'll go land on a planet and go search for some resources. I've got my rock in there. I've got my Atlas Geo. And I go and collect things, come back, and I made myself a CQ7, a bulk up rifle. And the fact that in a play session, I went down to a planet, I got the resources, I brought it back on board, put it inside there, crafted it. This is really cool. Went and did a bunker mission, all from my ship. And then to finish the session, I landed somewhere pretty. I had a look at the sunset and I went and logged out in the bed. And I was like, I've really enjoyed this session because it was just so many different things came into play and it was just, yeah, gorgeous. Gorgeous. And that's all that really and I'm gonna say works, like air quote works. You've got your cargo missions and stuff like that. But then that's kind of that's kind of a bit like not that interesting. You can get aboard of that. There's no there's no full loop. ⁓ there's no there's no doing something for a purpose. You're just cargo running for money. so when you could have those platforms, like an Atlas platform or like an exploration rover, then You can. You can go and go out and do some mining and then I don't know, go chop trees down and then go craft some stuff and then take it to your base, which then you can market to sell from there, like the same way that you can do in like Rust. You can then put a ping out and people go, ⁓ yeah, I can go and buy these these AKs, I can buy from this location. So then trade merchants come to your house to pick up your stuff. I'm really excited for that point. Like when it eventually gets to that, I'm so excited for it. Like I always have this image of being a merchant. Banu. ⁓ I being a merchant and having people turn up to my store or I'm just a middleman between other people. Like for example, GFA says ⁓ at one point he was like, I want to be the person who makes the best pistols in the ⁓ in the verse. And, you know, if maybe he's better at making them and finding the stuff but is not great at selling them, I'll be like, hey. Why don't I sell them for you? I'll take a certain amount and we go from there. Like these are genuine things that could probably happen. You know, there was a point in time where ⁓ a friend of mine, we she was basically a mob boss, right? And and she was an absolute badass, but she wasn't so great at the negotiating side of things. So I was like, I'll negotiate for you, I'll set up the deals, and then she would then turn up and then we'd do the exchange of stuff. ⁓ But that was always really cool. We were there in a C2 with the ramp down, we'd have security forces and fighters outside, they'd quantum in, they'd fly on over, we'd make the exchange. You know. But that's there's there's no gameplay in Star Citizen that is called ⁓ arms dealing. There's no sp that's something that we as the the gamers ourselves have come up with and have ⁓ fli f I was gonna say felicitated, facilitated. Felicity is facilitated an arms deal, it's great. you know, I just yeah, it's it's gonna be so cool when that stuff is available to be done. Sorry, just small rant over. It will, no, and that's like that's the reason I've got a BM. is purely for that sort of like gameplay of trading. ⁓ It's just sadly, we are very far from that. ⁓ and I I would love to see that, and I mean, it can't be that hard. Like, it's gonna be a different dev team to the ones that do other core gameplay features. The same ones that build the shops on planets, just just port a version where you can see a a panel where you can upload stuff and you've got your own shop. And it's just in something. I know there's no ships, no ships that currently support it. But I would love to see ⁓ I don't know what other games do this, but ⁓ Elder Scrolls Online does something similar. And in all of the POIs, ⁓ your org can effectively rent a vendor and you can sell stuff from the vendor, and it works like a normal shop, literally is like a normal shop merchant. But you own it and you make the money. There is tax, so there's a sink in there. ⁓ and all that sort of stuff, ⁓ which is what the game needs. It needs syncs for for funds. ⁓ and sinks that are worth it, not just pointless sinks, like synks that are like meaningful. Yeah. ⁓ exactly. And then you you've now you very, very easily, as like people have already said, it would change the game so much. ⁓ but it would create full loop systems. Someone can go out and do mining and say, I'm not gonna play the game for the weekend. I'm not gonna bother putting a refinery job in and just sell raw materials that they've mined on the market. And people can go around, buy the raw materials, and then all they need to do is spend their time to refine them and they can sell the refined materials or craft them into what they want. And there's so many points, so many like stops. And you've seen it with ⁓ all of the ⁓ all of the websites, like the the UEX and all the AI generated like marketplaces that they now have. ⁓ there there's so many of them and they they do p people do do trades on them. So I I genuinely think that we need to have a year of no content, just smashing bugs, getting the features, these features out, ⁓ because at the minute They are hemorrhaging people playing the game. And I know obviously we like to stay like light and and cheery about like the topics and stuff like that. But Grinima says in chat, honest question, how long do you think we start seeing this sort of thing in Star Citizen? Years. Like we won't start seeing this sort of thing for for years. One point ⁓ will be gone, long gone, before we get any form of useful, meaningful trading or org tools. ⁓ And even if they do release stuff, it won't work. So I think I'll dev's advocacy a little bit. I I understand the thinking behind it and I I do understand the sentiment and I agree with the sentiment to be honest. My the more hopeful part of my brain and the part of my brain that's thinking about the fact that for one point ⁓ to come out, they set out an idea of what they wanted it to look like and what it needed to look like. I think I think By the end of next year or even by twenty eight, I think they'll have to have some iteration of base building. They'll have to have org tools and social tools. ⁓ 'cause I think they need to start actually putting in the things that the players have been asking for for a long time. Now, if they can come out and tell us why they haven't, for example, like ⁓ Starware was supposed to come out with four point nine. I don't think any of us really knew that. ⁓ until Jared mentioned something about being like Starware was supposed to have come out with this. yeah, there you go. For one point zero, but he said I'll never supply to something. Cause basically the ⁓ what was it, the patch bundle that they were talking about? Was a balaclava and a and a beanie, but with the current system, you can't wear both of them. Because you put the balaclava on, it counts as a headwear and you can't wear the balaclava. So they've advertised something that can't work and doesn't exist. And Jared had come out and say, we understand that Starware was supposed to come out with this, ⁓ with four point one ⁓ but it can't now. That's the reason why this is in there. That's our bad and our mistake. So it's just where they don't carry on selling the concept ships when they don't where they're not bringing them out before their gameplay isn't game. Yeah, this is it. But and but like I think They should have done this with that. I yeah, I think they're gonna have to start giving us some of the things unless they can come out and accurately say, like was said there, this is the outright a hundred percent factual reason why we can't bring this out yet. Because I think that's the thing. If they said to us, Yeah, we're still working on social tools, this is why we can't release it, I'd feel a little better about it knowing why. Instead, it's just they go, Here's awesome social tools in twenty twenty four, this is gonna revolutionize the game and then we've heard nothing since. And here's Patsy V five. We've only just started hearing more about Genesis and V five now and at the end of last year. And then they go, Here's extra POIs, nothing. Here's starware, only just now we're hearing about it. Like communicate. It's it's useful in relationships, it's useful in work, it's useful in collaborations, and it's useful when trying to get information across. And if you want to keep people happy, keep us in the know. theory at the minute is they're not that interested on keeping people happy because they don't want the game to boom now and everyone gets threaders at the game before one point ⁓ releases. I that's ⁓ that's my wishful thinking that they're building it in a they're building the pipeline in a certain way where things don't actually work because then when one point ⁓ comes around they will and I'm gonna air quote, they will optimize the game and they will fix things, hopefully, so that when the game gets released, millions of people get caught in the influx. All new players, all returning players, they're gonna go, ⁓ yeah, one point ⁓ and then they're gonna hook people. They don't want people to retain and play the game now because they're gonna be burnt out and cooked by the time it gets around to one point ⁓ and they're gonna be like what's point it's gonna be the same buggy mess. I I have that That little thing in the back of my head that I'm hoping is the case. Because there is no there's no other fathomable fathomable reason why the game is so busted in different ways. Yeah. Like as it is now. And the the dev process has been slow. There's a year of playability that we had last year. Which I won't crack on about, but then we've had this year, which has basically undone all of their honesty and good work that they did last year. ⁓ and I just genuinely think they need to go and speak to the community and go, right, we're gonna delay one point ⁓ we're gonna do six months of bug smashing, no content, no ships, no new ships. All the dev teams are gonna work on old chips and fix things, but I get that's how a market works, right? They're not like money if they're six months. If you're not happy with the state of the game, go and play something else. We'll see you in six months. Yeah. And it's just it's one of those where I'm just hoping squadrons come out. ⁓ squadrons comes out. I'm hoping it's good, 'cause generally if it's got like one or two bugs within squadrons, it's just gonna be a horrendous social thing. But I'm hoping then they port all those teams to fix everything in the PU very, very quickly. ⁓ and then and then focus on another game. I'm well happy for them to try start building another game. Stop building the other games that you're building now, get squadrons out, and then then it's one of those things. But they've they've had they've got trademarks for other things, other names that they're expiring, so they need to show development on. certain things within a certain time frame. So there's things that legally you know that will happen. But it's yeah, so Soul Singer was one of them. which I believe they did lose that trademark. But then there's it's just one of those take as someone said don't take the game down obviously because people will then be threatening legal actions. But just focus. Don't worry about pushing squadrons 43 or chapters 21 to forty. Just release squadrons, let it s let it simmer for six months, fix everything else, and then people will actually social media will be raving about squadrons rather than kicking off about it. We s we saw what happened we saw what happened last year of the fact that they did say, you know, year of playability, they they focused on trying to make the game work and for it to be less buggy than it was. And yes, sure there were things like the ⁓ the ⁓ the what was it where the freight elevators Absolutely ⁓ poop the bed. ⁓ there was that. But other than that, people resource drive. The resource drive, yeah. So but we saw what happened to sales when the game was actually working. You know, if I think to myself the game's working, I'll be more intrigued and more inclined to use different ships to try different ⁓ things. And let's just face it, if you've got as little willpower as I have had over the last few years when it comes to Star Citizen, ⁓ Having a house, a child, and being married has changed that slightly. ⁓ you know, all of a sudden I go, ⁓ I feel like I'm really missing out because you see how well other stuff is working. You know, I all of a sudden went, I really want to have a go at mining because mining's working really well. But if the game isn't working, you go, Well, there's no point because it's just gonna fail. So I also think you made a great point before, CJ, of saying that with squadrons coming out, I think Star Citizen has such a reputation. you know, scam citizen, but I think if the game isn't everything that they think it's going to be in squadrons, there that it'll be so easy for someone to go, ha, they made a single player game and it's just as broken as their own as their their their alpha and Star Citizen. And then all of a sudden, so many people will see that first thing of I tried I tried Squadron forty two, so you don't have to, and it's broken. You know what I mean? And then that's I so I think Chris Roberts has sat there worrying about that. As well. I reckon that might be part ⁓ Yeah. ⁓ obviously I mean we're coming to the end of the ⁓ the the the timeline now that we've got for today, but touched on half of what we wanted to. Yeah, no. But ⁓ I just yeah, there is always next week and yeah, there's not much happening. ⁓ one point ⁓ not one point ⁓ four point one ⁓ yeah, ⁓ three point two four point four point one point ⁓ whatever you to call it ⁓ will be coming out within the within the week potentially. But I think it I think it's been it should be delayed. We also the the we also have the playtest. ⁓ it should be delayed. They need to fix it. They shouldn't rush deadlines like they have done previous. ⁓ and get it to come out and it needs to be this perfect game. And if it is when it when it comes out and and you can run through siege and there's no bugs then Great, we're gonna have a very good time. ⁓ so there's that to look forward to maybe this week, maybe next. Umless is anything you wanna touch on quickly if we can squeeze it in. I've got one quick thing to show. so Swanky and I are gearing up, ready to go to Gamescom at the end of the month. ⁓ I've just found this. ⁓ talking about their attendance at Gamescom. They do a bastard every time they're there, but this time they're doing an in game poster. So we've already had the Shattered Spear for this year. This is now an a further part, so this is almost like a game's it doesn't say it's exclusive, it does say there may be other opportunities to secure the poster in the future. But if you want to be amongst the first to display it in your hangar, come out and join the fun. We'll also have bosses and scratch off cards and no shortage of other giveaways throughout. I'm excited. I w I want that poster. I want that in real life. I want that on my stars as a wool. I give to me. I'm gonna use it and turn it into a towel so I can wrap my daughter up in it. Beauty is power. Yes it is. I've got you to ship on your alt account. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, that's why I'm just covered quickly. Nice. I think yeah. I think I'm hoping before the end of the year We see ⁓ because we're supposed to be seeing this year Genesis, aren't we? The new planet tech. And to be fair, there's been comments have come out on I don't know if it's Reddit or Spectrum recently from one of the developers who's working on it who said stuff is coming soon. Now we all know the soon comes with a little TM after it, but hopefully that means that there's exciting stuff coming and we'll see the first of those planets, which is gonna be a NYX. ⁓ I hope we get a small taste of the end of the year. 'Cause they like this end of the year thing, don't they? You know, Pyro came out end of that year. ⁓ Nyx came out end of that year. ⁓ hopefully the end of this year they either go, Here's Castra, or they say, Here's your first taste of base building T zero. ⁓ but that's waiting. That's that's all from me. Yeah. ⁓ How about you, CJ? Any that's I mean that's that's I just wanna play the game. And that's all from me. Yeah. You can play the game if you want. It does work like quite a bit. Like I've managed to do a lot of cargo hauling. It's not the funniest of things, but like for me, but it works. I've not had any sort of significant issues apart from like had to do the occasional server hop. Yeah. Yeah. Gridimos, ⁓ my hope for the end of the year is that Freight Elevators work. I will ask Santa Gridimus. I will ask Santa. The station Elevators work as well. Although there is occasionally there's you know, someone's been along already, thrown some stuff at it, and it's got embedded behind the elevator, it's clipped through, that prevents them from working. But then you just go along to the next one. It should work. ⁓ but who knows? Hopefully I I wish you many blessings on your next attempt at a freight elevator Gridmus. Sprinkle you with ⁓ quantum dispatch limited edition holy water that you can get that's definitely not CJ's bathwater that we've bottled up and sold out to people. No, it's just common knowledge I I bottle up and share out my bath water. I've got a bottle right here and you can get yours for only. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get it real cheap for now. And it's L T I as well. ⁓ cool. Right. Okay. Well, we will pick up on ⁓ well who knows, it probably won't be out by then. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. We can touch more on four one point ⁓ four point one or three point two four point four point one ⁓ next Sunday. but unless anyone else has anything else to say, Wonder C or CJ? Nope, not me. Nope. Well see you in game. Absolutely. Thank you everyone for spending time with us with us this week. We've really enjoyed it. ⁓ your opinions, your chats, everything else. ⁓ we love you all very much, and we will catch you all in the verse. ⁓