Quantum Dispatch: Ladies and gentlemen, guys and gals, hello and welcome to the Quantum Dispatch Podcast. ⁓ for all of our listeners, welcome on in. Today we are talking about funding. And of course, none of us have ever spoken about that in Star Citizen before, have we? No, definitely not. And definitely not the fact that we have now surpassed one billion pounds worth of funding. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Also talking about the Odin Battlecruiser, which has made waves in getting us to this point. ⁓ and s with some quick maths, we ⁓ That CJ worked out before, and only 6.6 million pounds worth of them have been sold. So that's that's that's nothing to be sniffed at. yes, there's been a Star Citizen Live, which is an hour and something long of them looking at the insides of it, pictures, how it works, what it's meant to do, the creation of it, and the things going into it. It is a beast of a machine. ⁓ CJ, how are you doing? I'm not not too bad, Bet. That was a that was a long intro. A bit of a runaway of that one. Yeah, so ⁓ but ⁓ no I'm I'm all good. ⁓ tried playing the other day, try and I mean I'm running into the same bugs as everyone else, so Yeah. Yeah, definitely not flea free fly territory. but little bit of ⁓ little bit of game enthusiasm was perked back watching the SCL today, which I think is what we're gonna go through. I will have it muted, so I'll I'll pull the SCL up shortly. Yeah. I'll have it muted and I'll play it on two X speed. And then we can talk when they're talking and then when the pictures come up, I'll pause it so we can actually have a look at the That's fine. Yeah, I like this idea. I like this idea. So we'll see how quick we can get through a one hour, six minute SEL. ⁓ this is the idea you were talking about. I like it. Yeah, yeah, I like it. So we'll we'll put a r a really fast debrief on on the SEO. Are we are we are we about to become hey with the people who watch people who watch people watching people playing a game? Yeah yeah. I might get my wife to kick off though and say that like watching people is is really hard content to make. So ⁓ yeah, I'll get her to kick off in socials anyway. Perfect. Love it. More clickbait. Yeah, ex yeah, exactly. ⁓ start start social media war. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. But ⁓ yeah, we're not joined by ⁓ GFA today. ⁓ and we're not joined by OneDark because I think he's he's just sent a picture to say he's he's got an Odin. ⁓ and Probably the actual excuse that he's not on the podcast today is because he missed the first wave and he wanted to be on the second wave. So he's probably sat behind his desk pressing F five whilst we're sitting there going live. like smashing it with his fists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ but yeah, no GFA. ⁓ big shame. No one dark. Yeah. Anyway. I mean the the glare is less for the viewers now. ⁓ for those ⁓ for those at home, there is a certain sheen that comes off with GFA when he's on on screen and on camera. ⁓ so for your visual viewers, look forward to a more mellow experience today, you know? Yes, exactly. A little bit more chill, a little bit more reserved. ⁓ welcome to a sepia paradise. Should I get wow noises on in the background? Yeah. The wow noises, just ⁓ just chilling. Yeah, dude, absolutely. But yeah. So anyway, I'll pull the SCL up. Yeah and we talk for a second. Did you finish it? I did manage to get to well, I I think I think I had like two minutes left at the end of it. ⁓ but I was also watching Arsenal lift the Premier League trophy. So ⁓ right. So yeah, equally as boring then. ⁓ yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I definitely haven't waited twenty two years for this moment. Cool. So I've pulled ⁓ if you can keep an eye on chat for as well, that'd be great. Absolutely I can. so I've pulled the MCL. I wanna get ⁓ just obviously we do a little introduce ⁓ introduction. so we got Of course we've got we've got John. We've got Dan. Go on. Good Dan. Woo Repper looking cool as ever. Gorgeous. ⁓ and you're gonna have to forgive me for the rest of the names. ⁓ I don't really know. I know one of them is Ben. one set. ⁓ that was Jared. Hey, we know Jared. We know Jared. We we go with Jared. That's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In in John Crew, yeah, we know Chris. We know John. Chris Danks, John Crew. Yeah, we got we got the other side as well. ⁓ I love it. I love this guy's beard. Me too. Me too. Matriya, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then and then goodles help us up help us up for the rest of ⁓ Thank you. I've only got eyes for Dan. ⁓ and Alberto. You don't see him. He's somewhere he's somewhere in the background. Mattia was one of the first people one of the first devs I sat and had a proper long conversation with at Bar Citizen. ⁓ it was when I was still relatively new to the game and they were to they were discussing the idea of changing how the flight mode model was gonna work and some people were somewhat upset about it. still are yeah are they I don't I'd never have guessed. ⁓ welcome in as well. Hi, welcome everyone, lovely to see you all. ⁓ ⁓ but it was an absolute pleasure. And just the amount of passion that he has for everything and the amount of enthusiasm and stuff, it's so infectious. Yeah. So infectious. I can say the same for all the devs. Like the last time we were with them all, like it's it's just such an amazing experience. And you can see the humanity of them, you can see how excited they are for everything. You can see their passion. ⁓ they share the same frustrations that we have, they share the same excitement that we do, and they're just as excited for us to see things as we are, you know, and knowing that. It it it it really helps me to feel at ease knowing that it's in good hands. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. ⁓ they yeah, they are very passionate. ⁓ but we are equally flashbanged by baldness ⁓ in this SEL. and I don't I don't want people catching strays, but we've lost one one we've lost GFA and we have another bald man. We brought another ⁓ he's a good looking bald man though, so it's okay. So hit He's ⁓ he's about to chat about the guns. What was your first impression on the guns? Just the guns. So alright, so speaking of just on the guns, and I'll I'd love to hear what other people in chat think about this as well. But when that first well, okay, I'll start right from the beginning. The first holo comes out, right? We look at it, and people go, Where's the weapons on it? I can't see the fucking guns on it. Sorry, GFA, gonna have to bleep that one. Can't see the forging guns on it, mate. ⁓ I went from scouse to But Brummy. But ⁓ and then they showed the one with the weapons and you thought, My word. Jesus Christ, this is insane. And then the other bit that got me was we saw those singular track ones that from the image that we saw or that Pete brought up, it looked like that they just faced one way in one direction. But it has now been debunked and demythed. You know, the myth has been busted. They just they pivot. They're singular ones, but they pivot. But what are they, size ten? The singular ones, I think size ten. the big one on the top and the bottom, it's triple size twelve bespoke cannons. ⁓ isn't all three of them together on the top and on the bottom. Yep. ⁓ well we can have a look because the animation for this as well is is pretty cool. Oof. Look at that. ⁓ my word. ⁓ my word. The way it like resets back into the hull as well. And it like Even even like the I I've only just realized this now the sides fold in and under as well. So it comes in into that like triangular shape. That's gorgeous. Well, they're pointing out the fact now that it's ⁓ so it's a triple size 12 on the top and the bottom. ⁓ the largest gun we have in the game at the minute. is the Idris cannon at a size ten. Yeah. ⁓ yep, yeah. And he's he's saying at the minute that the biggest gun that you get on the ⁓ Bengal, which has huge guns on the bottom by the way. Yeah. one sec. Where's that just gone? We just wanted you to see our faces a little bit bigger just for a moment. That's just it, yeah, yeah. Never mind. ⁓ so we've got the the big gun on the top. It's a triple size twelve and the top and the bottom. And they were saying that the largest gun we have in the game currently is the Idris. Yep. With a size ten. ⁓ and then the second to that would be the Javelin when it comes out, because the Javelin's guns are size nines. Mm-hmm. The Bengal has one cannon on the bottom, one turret on the bottom, and it's quad size twelves. Yeah. So already this is out firepower out firepowering a Bengal. Yeah. Which is realistically what it's supposed to be, but Yeah, well the Bengal's meant to be the Bengal's meant to be the carrier, isn't it? The Bengal's meant to be the, you know, this thing comes first and a Bengal's alongside it, and the Bengal has all the stuff that comes out of it and and you know, does all the other bits and bobs. ⁓ or even a Bengal is is flanked by two of these. Yeah. You know. ⁓ but it's just it's just insane. Absolutely insane. I really hope. I really hope like it's it's moments like this, I wish they introduced some kind of feedback system. Like I could have a chair that had haptic feedbacks built into it. And when you fired one of these things, I get yeeted across my room into a wall. Just so I can get the true experience of firing one of these cannons. I would I would love to actually have ⁓ some sort of like haptic rig. ⁓ even for FPS, you get like the the ⁓ haptic body armor and stuff like that. But we know that some people have got some stupid sim rigs. ⁓ there is ⁓ I forget his actual name. ⁓ but the guy behind Arkans City, James, ⁓ he has a awesome rig for racing and he's got like motors on the corners of this like whole rig, so it like pivots and moves the whole rig around. So imagine having that flying around on a ship, the whole thing's getting like G locked itself and you get that sort of like feedback when you're firing and being hit as well. Yeah. ⁓ but I can imagine it's noisy. Well anyway, we digress. That's that's a Well Gridimus says ⁓ the real question is will it make the freight elevators work? Well, I'm sure a cannon of that size is probably more than likely to break everything else around it than it is to ⁓ to cure any of the the minor bugs. I say minor bugs, not well not a minor bug, but some of the big bugs. Jared actually came out with a with a hilarious joke. ⁓ because he said the ship is like super dangerous, super lethal. And he was like, How many elevators have we got inside of it? And he's like, it's now even more dangerous because it's got elevators there as well. Well, it's now even more dangerous, speaking of elevators, because it has a tram and train system inside of it. That you can run along as well. They said you can run along because the running track, the the the cardio track that they've got in is shi in the ship that we'll cover later covers the metro loop. But I've j I've just got this this image of just kind of like, I'm gonna get the train up to the bridge. The train goes and the sh the and the Odin is just going off into the distance, and you're just on the tram like. ⁓ Yeah. Or it's like the scene off of like the ASDF movies, where it's like, I like trains every time you're running along like the metro. I like trains. Wiped up. But ⁓ by the way, ASDF movies is the basis for my entire sense of humor, by the way. Just like this movie. So onto the other canon. ⁓ so this is one of the single cannons you said that pivot around. I just want to point out this one down here. Don't know if you can see the mouse, but down here. See this little dude? I didn't notice that before actually, until looking at this now and like taking the time to actually inspect it. Look how little the dude is. And look Look at the size of that. Not even just that gun, but this one. Speaking of which, what what even is that gun on the side? 'Cause I don't think the animation worked properly. No, I agree. Because on the other ones, the animations come out and they're huge. Yeah. ⁓ but there's loads. So Yeah. I think I Gritimos that it'll be an RP org sweat dream. ⁓ I think is is pretty spot on. But also speaking of yeah, I imagine it's probably more like these two that we just saw there. And ⁓ it's insane. It's the the the jewel size the jewel cannons they saw just before that. Yeah. These ones are jewel size eights, and it has eight of these manned turrets around the ship. And then the second one that comes up, the qu and it's quad size eights. These are the ones that are on the side of the bridge. These ones are quad size eights. That's nuts. I tell you what, I tell you what I really like when we went back to what we saw before is the almost like the little indent and channel going around the outside of it. So it still has those elements of a battleship where it's like you can go and chill in the gun like the gullies, like down here at the bottom. Like so much exposed bits and bobs that gives it that feel of a battleship. Yeah. ⁓ over ⁓ just a spaceship that might. vaguely resemble a a battleship. Like ⁓ I saw someone on Twitter managed to get one and called theirs the Yam Yam Yam Yamato? Yeah yeah. Yeah. The Yamato. I'm probably butchering that. I'm sorry, everyone in chat who's just witnessed me completely destroying that name. I'm sure I'll get corrected in a second. I hope I do. ⁓ but yeah, incredible. Just quit on the chat, could they hear the ⁓ the S CL audio? ⁓ I can't hear it, but I I I yeah I hope people can't hear it. ⁓ Just because when I fast forward it, it's gonna ⁓ You're gonna you're gonna hear it d double timed. But ⁓ yeah. So so much guns. ⁓ and then they haven't even got to the good part yet. Depend what's the good what's the good part for you? ⁓ we're talking about the good part. And I called this as well. ⁓ I said that what it's gonna be on the front. Yeah. So ⁓ what we're looking at here. That's insane. What the fuck, dude? That means who who signed off on this? ⁓ Chris Roberts, obviously. Who? Right. So they've gone through all of the ships in game and gone, ⁓ yeah, we've got the Idris with a laser gun on it, and we've now got the Tiburon with a laser gun on it, and then there's a Mauler with a laser gun on it. Do you know what's better than having a ship with an individual laser gun? One ship with fucking twelve of them. Or the shit be it being the laser gun. ⁓ it's crazy. I love all of this detail on the side. ⁓ I'm using my fingers as if you can see. I'm loving all of this detail on the side. So like it's got like venting points. So obviously one when it's using the weapon, you can potentially disable that main weapon by accessing these vent vent parts in the side. ⁓ the trench run. And they said that they actually said that as well in the ⁓ in the in the SCL ⁓ It's got those ⁓ like cooling areas. So if you wanted to help ca incapacitate the main weapon, you can use those like venting areas on the side. That's the thing, with a shi with a ship of that size, you need for it to be defeatable. Yeah. ⁓ it's it's like the whole Death Star thing, isn't it? Why do they create a small exhaust port where putting one photon torpedo down it can destroy the entire thing? It has to has a w have a weakness somewhere. ⁓ you know, realistically in in an ideal world, you'd you'd patch every hole up and there'd be no way of killing that thing other than really hard work, but there has to be a way of you slowly whittling it down, like they said with the ⁓ the ⁓ point defence turrets. Yeah. ⁓ and point defense cannons. You know, that there needs to be they've done them in clusters so that, you know, you can whittle them down to the point of maybe defeating this thing. But it's still going be really goddamn hard to do. Yeah. Well that's it. I've got the point defence ⁓ cannons on the screen now and they actually pointed out the fact that there's gonna be a flak one as well. ⁓ Which is gonna be great because obviously shooting down missiles and torps from far away using like a gatling or something, so the same way our like ⁓ our sea whizzes work, ⁓ sort of in modern times, yeah ⁓ is really cool on that. But what about when it gets too close? What about when it gets too close that you can't track fast enough with these PDCs and bullets don't don't seem to stop it? Well then that's where your flak's gonna come in. ⁓ so you'll be able to like flax screen an area and hopefully by pure volume, just disable whatever's coming in. ⁓ and it's really cool. And like you said, they've done it in groups as well. So you you'll know, you'll know where these PDCs are rather than having to like remember where exactly they are on the ship. All you need to remember is there's a bank this side, there's a bank on this side, and there's a bank on the front and a bank on the bottom. Yeah. And then you just your job is to orbit that bank and take that down. So when you're doing your counter ⁓ Odin gameplay ⁓ which all it's realistically is gonna be is a golem. ⁓ and all you just need to do is just go for Many Golem. Yeah. Or like an Aurora and just headbutt the PDCs. Yeah. ⁓ but it's gonna be really cool because like you said, it gives you that. it does give it a weak spot. Like it's not you can't just destroy it. ⁓ I've got a feeling these are gonna be easier to kill than most people think. I see I d I just had an image in my mind. And first of all, ⁓ Noodle said my child is a god. So I hope that's a reference to the golem, ⁓ because the golem is a god. I I have a feeling it might be. is our god as well. We all hail and worship the golem. ⁓ but I had it in my head of like so the opening of what is it, Attack the Clones, ⁓ or Clone Wars or something like that, where the ship's coming in. And you've a fighter coming past something like an Odin, but the Odin's guns are so big that the Odin's guns are focusing on the big targets, not the little targets. And you've got like a fighter assortment going round it. There's dog fights happening in and around the ship as it's as it's going along. And you know, occasionally a ship might get blown apart by accidentally coming through the laser beam or getting caught by a cannon. But you're going to be able to get in close with a fighter potentially and start taking out these things. Because realistically, if you're fighting at the scale that you should be fighting at. There's gonna be a much bigger target, those big cannons are trying to kill. Yeah. You know, there's gonna be there's gonna be Perseus, there's gonna be Idris, there's gonna be Polaris, there's gonna be Javelins, there's gonna be Bengals, there's gonna be like that this thing is targeting. You know, it's not gonna go. Don't worry about the javelin that's coming at us. I really need you to get that Aurora Mark II that's trying to take down my PDCs. Yeah. Like the the big turrets aren't gonna be looking at those things, you know. ⁓ Yeah, so it's it's it's it's gonna be really exciting and I'm sure that, you know, I don't know if anyone here has heard of Order sixty six, ⁓ is ⁓ star set as an organization, but they try and put on giant scale fleet battles and events and things which are never heard of a Matt. Avania. Aminier. Yeah, Ivan. you need to ⁓ update yourself, my friend. Yeah, yeah. It's the only thing that's on my social feed. It's the only thing that I see on Twitter. Yeah, dude. It's and and the stuff they do, I've been involved in a few of their events. And they are just the a level of emotion they manage to get and the they set up these things that happen it is so cool. I can just picture zooming into an area and as you get in there's just explosions. Ships and debris and stuff like this going round and One day to get something like that would just be sensational. It'd be crazy. ⁓ yeah, it'd be so good. And one thing that's gonna be really good for the Idrises and everything you just mentioned in those org battles is they've just mentioned it has twenty torpedo tubes. Yeah. Well he said as long as you've got the rest like You've got the people loading up the tubes. It's you could start firing, and if there's another one ready to go, by the time it comes back round, it'll just fire the next ones. Yeah. You know, so potentially it's crazy. We'll we'll cover we'll cover the carousel in a bit, ⁓ comes up to it. But it's such a really cool concept on how they've laid the whole thing out, where like the heart of it goes through the middle of the ship and it it is like All of the cargo gameplay involved in the ship is around torpedoes, which is really cool because it's got twenty torpedo troops. Like twenty. It doesn't matter at that point, it doesn't matter what PDCs are on your Idris. When y they ain't gonna be quick enough to dis to defeat like twenty coming in, especially when people are chipping away at your PDCs and then now you just lobbing twenty torps at someone. But that is also very expensive. Yes. Very inexpensive. Because it's it's millions to like r refit a Polaris ⁓ with torpedoes. ⁓ did they say what size the torps were? Probably. ⁓ I probably ⁓ I didn't I probably didn't hit I think they're like size twelves as well, I think. Yeah I think there was size twelve. I think somewhere between tens and twelves. ⁓ because is it is it tens on the Polaris? Yes. Yeah it's tens on the Polaris, okay. Yeah. ⁓ and just going back to what you're saying before as well, like just you said, ⁓ if anything gets in close and in my head I just had it when Polaris is the best way for them to kill Idrises was to Round the nose up the backside and then fire the torps from zero point five metres away. Like just a bunch of Polarises just sniffing the butt of an ode and like fires a torpedoes. Yeah. Well they've they're definitely getting away from that with this because the torpedoes don't come out the front. Like if the Polaris had the same thing where the torpedoes kind of like came out from the top and like arced over. ⁓ Or even from the sides. Or even yeah, or even from the sides, or even angled so they kind of come out like off. You could have that awesome look of you know in some sci fi films and things like that where they fire missiles and they come out in an arc and then circle back around just just kind of like zoom in. ⁓ yeah. It'd be really cool. ⁓ so when when they let us onto the vehicle team when we design our own, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It won't be long. ⁓ it won't be long. Chris will see this video of us reviewing the Odin and go, now we need these guys to build the Drake ⁓ battle cruiser. ⁓ Grinamas has said, My hope is that this isn't something you can blow up very easily. You almost have to board it. I agree. I am under the impression, and correct me if you know any different, ⁓ but ships over a certain size you won't be able to blow up. Like you'll soft F them, and I think the hull will be permanently there. So you could recover this, even if it's not yours, you could recover this, change change the VIN number, and because that we know that feature is coming at some point, is you can steal a ship and then change the VIN number over now shores ⁓ and then rebuild it. ⁓ and I think probably the easiest way of actually getting your hands on one of these would be rebuilding it and doing it that in that way when it comes out. I've got this amazing image of CJ coming up through that medium hanger in ⁓ in a golem. Getting into the elevator that takes you up to the top. Someone goes to leave the bridge. We've got our board, they're inside. The elevator opens for the bridge and there's a golem there and just with the with the laser. The mining laser just goes swinging. We need to add ⁓ a slight gimbalin with the mining laser on the golem. So I can fly it with a stick and have all the control, but then like wiggle the ⁓ wiggle the laser around while burn people with it whilst flying. Head here first, ladies and gentlemen, this is exactly how it's gonna go. The first ever boarded and captured ⁓ of these ships will be by CJ in a golem. Yeah. It's it it's not like Anakin inside the Trade Federation ship. It's snow ⁓ when Vader ⁓ I think it's episode is it episode one, ⁓ where they he bombs the ⁓ Republic cruiser chasing Salvation, yeah. yeah, and it's the hallway scene where it's like pitch black. And then it's just he's like he lights his lightsaber. Is it is is that the scene? Where it's just like the lightsaber in the darkness. Just imagine that and then just the the golem mining laser just turns on and just like the corridor. You see the outside of the Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But ⁓ no. We know we're gonna be able to fly the golem through it because it's big. Yeah. ⁓ like even the cargo hold, the torpedo loading area, ⁓ the small ⁓ Hangers, the six more hangers, and then the one medium hanger with the massive like loop. It's gotta be a racetrack. Yeah, like a one of these has to be a racetrack. Like a recording on a planet, and you race through it, and that's where you turn around like a hairpin through the ship. So good. It'd be so so good. Cool. Yeah. But just ⁓ it's just gonna be it's just gonna be absolutely insane. I love this picture here. It like I agree with one dark. ⁓ Noodle just said, I can see it now, my children killing and munching the Odin and what I put I can hear you cackling. Go, my pretties. Bring me back the heart of the Odin. Well, when they release the Odin and they do what they did with like the Polaris and other ships, when they they do a ⁓ a crew, a CRG crew. Yeah. And they get like they get the whole of like the UK vehicle art team to run an Odin. ⁓ we have to try and steal it off them. And we have to try and steal it. You know for sure I'm gonna take a fleet of fucking golems, whichever whoever wants to ride with me. We could get forty or fifty golems, just whoever wants to arrive with me into Valhalla We'll just ⁓ pick the engines apart. Like your turrets ain't gonna be able to move quick enough. We're just zipping around, sitting in the blind spots, mining your engines, and then all of a sudden PDCs and turrets are gone. Like and you've just been taken out by golems. ⁓ The first official Odin kill going to CJ Radley in a golem. Who sat in the engineering bay in his golem c which he managed to fly into. Yeah, I've managed to like set the self destruct on the ship and I'm just protecting it with a mining laser of the golem, just like flying it around in the in the in the bridge. ⁓ But ⁓ that'd be so good. This image is really cool. Obviously, this is the concept one that we saw, the one that was ⁓ released before the holo. ⁓ with everything hidden. You've got the like the shark fin ⁓ Which is a tur which is a turret. The shark fin is a turret that's tucked in. They're both turrets. Mm-hmm. One thing we didn't know is there was a hanger down here, which is the medium hanger. ⁓ which is really nice. Yeah, I agreed. It's a really nice feature. We did not expect it at all. No. No, no. Where where that picture was just taken from reminds me of Sherman. Is it Castra? Yeah, Castro, yeah, yeah. Which by the way will be my home. When it eventually becomes real, just so excited. Well they ⁓ there is actually something on the homepage, ⁓ when you log in on four point eight, and one of the articles has Castra written in it, capitalized C as well. So I'm kind of thinking that might be the first nod to ⁓ Castra and Sherman like in the game. ⁓ 'cause we know it's coming. And realistically, it shouldn't be that long. No, and I think with ⁓ I I agree with you on that one, especially because of the fact that with ⁓ you know, they said this year Genesis is coming in. Yeah. Right? And the first planet with Genesis is gonna exist this year. I'm like, with that being said, I'm like then that means, ⁓ this by the way, I need this ⁓ I need this picture for my home screen. I need this to be my home screen on my PC. Can can we get can we get the raw files, please? Yeah, is there any is there any way of backers getting access to this photo in a way that's All of the photos as well. All of the photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one this one is hot. Yeah. ⁓ my word. Like I would put this as my home screen on everything, ⁓ at least for a month until my child is born, and then I'm contractually obliged that the child has to go there. But No, because then you just get a picture of the you photoshop it, so the child is being like is is one of the asteroids that's been battered away. Yeah, or the child is attached in a little like thing at the end of it by like a bit of wire and it's just carrying the child along like a security package. ⁓ But my word, it's sensational. This this got me thinking, by the way. I started going down the rabbit hole of like ⁓ this photo here. What if they did do like ice fields and you could break through them? You know what I mean? Like ⁓ being able to do that, have it so that there's a certain weight to depends on the certain type of ship, on the whole ⁓ like the whole density or the whole HP, if you can break through it or if it'll damage you. Like 'cause could you imagine ⁓ just the image of you're pulling along on a patrol and all of a sudden this boom as it just rises up throughout of the ice and you're just like, ⁓ you dip back down underneath, shells coming through explosions, like it's the other image that they rel showed as well, with the icebreaker one. ⁓ this is Dan saying this is now his wallpaper background. ⁓ which I think ⁓ Spectre would be a bit sad because I'm pretty sure it is one of Spectre's Fury pictures that he had as his wallpaper before. And now it's that one. ⁓ that one, that one. But that image there, like the icebreaker image is so cool. And I actually do wish we get gameplay like this. Like we can bump asteroids and stuff. maybe a limited physics grid. Because like you don't want to bump an asteroid and then it just fucks off for like a million years. You come back and the asteroid field is gone because everyone has come and gone, heh, asteroids, and then they just disappear forever. But it'd be a really cool way of either maybe going around mining and there's little ones and instead of just going around these little asteroids that currently would kill you, you just bump them out of the way. ⁓ and go for a bigger one. Hypes said ⁓ you'll be able to make that in a minefield. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would be a really cool minefield, but ⁓ but Declan, do know what this is gonna be really good for? The Orion. Yeah. The look at these ice ice fields, these ice asteroids, and you're just going around mining them with the Orion. But ⁓ This is just gonna be gorgeous. It's it's really cool. ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I like the fact as well that they said that there's still areas of the ship that they aren't even ready to show us yet. Yeah. ⁓ which which is even more exciting to be honest. ⁓ Yeah, Wondark said a few years from now, Hurston is gone because someone banged into an asteroid a while back. Yeah, imagine, yeah. Continually picks up speed, bounces into Hurston, Hurston's just gone. Well, I mean, I'm not gonna complain. Of all the places, it's okay that Hurston is gone. Yeah, I mean And that's saying we have Nyx and Pyro and we're still saying that it's okay that Hurston is gone. Can they just bump like the jump gates? Just so we can't get into Stanton. That's it. That's it. You've lost. Noodles said, How do you think Port Olasar died? No, no, no. We get no, we want Port Olasar back. Yes, Port Alassar needs to come back. We we need Port Olasar back. ⁓ whether it's somewhere like long lost, ⁓ and maybe it's a mission. ⁓ dude. Yeah, that'd be such a sick idea. Like, you've got obviously the three star systems at the moment, if there's like a limited time event or an event that keeps coming back round that goes A new wormhole has opened up. And that wormhole takes you to a small section of space. And in that section of space is Port Olusar. And it's just been floating through a void somewhere, not linked to anything. And for a limited amount of time, there's a resource around it that you can get, but you can only get it through this jump point. And ⁓ dude, like obviously sick event. So the in ⁓ Elite Dangerous, I don't know if you ever play Elite Dangerous, but there was a mission before. So the Elite Dangerous Universe is It's ridiculous. Yeah. Like I had one of my friends go to the from where he where we were, travel to ⁓ the center, ⁓ and then back again. And it took him like a month of getting on playing for a few hours and it ⁓ an IRL month. So there was once there was a mission and it was a global thing where you had to go and land in this space station, and then the space station was gonna go and take like a once-in-a-lifetime hyper jump opportunity. Yeah, and it basically blinked. And then end up in the opposite side of the solar system. So I would love for like Port Olusar to turn up. You land on the pads on the outside, not magic pads, physicalised. You have to land there. Yeah. And then at a set time, it does a magic jump and it goes to Castro. Yeah, or Castra. Maybe the first the first people, the first people to get to Castro go on this magic trip with with Port Olusar and it can. enter a ⁓ a a wild quantum lane and basically create its own ⁓ jump gate for that ⁓ that event period. You get out of your ship you're just you're just stood on the side looking up as it like warps around you as you're jumping through this strange space that you've never been through before just to then arrive at Castro and then those who are there are the lucky ones who get to then go and explore the planets and yeah dude that would be that would be so cool man. That would be so cool. Like I I I've had this image of just with Sherman, for example. Like this this image we're looking at right here, right? When we saw the advert of Sherman, ⁓ it was sitcom twenty four, wasn't it? ⁓ you know, that that that layer of cloud that was just below the mountain top where Sherman sits. Like imagine this coming out from underneath the clouds, like taking off. It shouldn't because it shouldn't be able to go into atmosphere and I hope it doesn't. I'm gonna go to a bunker and then just woman ⁓ But just imagine then s one of these giant ships coming out from underneath the clouds and just yeah. Sick. Yeah, no, it would be really cool. Would be really cool. But ⁓ I hope if it goes too close to gravity as well, like it starts to like pull the guns down. And like it's ⁓ the the guns are only developed to operate under its own power, under its own weight. And then like once it hits gravity or a lower gravity level, the guns like just don't start like just stop working. That's when it has to become an orbital bombardment style thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ which is an interesting point. Anyone in chat as well, ⁓ can can pitch in their thoughts on this. ⁓ ⁓ yeah, that's good idea. But Fi Making sure I'm reading this correct, because my eyes for a second then, I thought it said Fiber Limps, but it Fiber Limpa, so I do apologize. ⁓ Fiber Limpa, clear out Port Olesar that's been occupied by Van Doel could also be a mission. Like maybe that's the reason why it's gone. Port Olusar was actually stolen by the Van Doel. ⁓ and and then they were gonna plant it back somewhere and be like, Hey, Port Olisar's back, go and use it and definitely don't realize that we're absorbing your essence and stealing your life force. Successful Vandal Rule, right? Surely. ⁓ yeah, that would be insanely cool. ⁓ but yeah, what are people's ideas on the fact that do we think the Odin is going to be able to do some style of orbital bombardment? What's your thoughts, C? Hopefully. I hope it could. ⁓ 'cause that's one thing the game is actually missing, like ground effect sort of weaponry. ⁓ would be really sweet. Do you think this would come in or maybe they'd make it a thing once base building becomes a thing? I don't think they will because people will s start losing bases. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah, 'cause then it's too easy for I say too easy, it's you still need to have a fucking Odin in the first place. Yeah. But it ⁓ would then mean that you could just park up an atmosphere and just be like, Well, I'm just gonna sit here and bombard you for an X amount of time until your base is gone. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair. I would like for it to be a thing. Maybe if it's only a thing for like No, you couldn't have one and then the other. I was gonna say certain missions or certain types of stuff, but yeah, maybe not. Maybe it sounds like one dark definitely wants it to happen. Yeah. So this image here, ⁓ they were saying how it makes the the hole in Nick, so this is Levsky, it makes the the the hole through the asteroid look quite small. And they were like, Well, it's actually the hole is quite big. Five kilometers five kilometres across the hole is Yeah. Yeah. But it just shows how big the Odin actually is. ⁓ that it makes this look small. And I've I mean I'm not actually I don't think I've actually thrown flown through the the hole in Levski. ⁓ but I'm more intrigued about the citizen footage of the Kraken coming out of it than this coming into it. ⁓ yeah yeah. That's what I that's that's that that for me is is a much better picture. Well if you want a very small segue as part of Defense con. Underneath the hologram for the Kraken was what is it, Unleash the Beast or something coming next year. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's basically them saying you will get the Kraken next year. Yeah. ⁓ which is an incredibly exciting prospect. I do not I do not have one, but I know plenty of people who do. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't have one. ⁓ I think this year is gonna be my turn where I'm gonna try and Try and get one. Try and get yourself something like that. Yeah. I've looked at my fleet and I've gone, I don't need half this stuff. ⁓ I've got I've got a prospector and a and and a golem. So I'm getting rid of the prospector. Yeah. ⁓ I've got all three cutters. I don't need all three. Yeah. ⁓ if you want to see more of what is in our fleets, go back to a previous episode where we went over our fleets, why we have them and why we should or shouldn't have them. Yeah, no, let's let's not go through that one. ⁓ can you pick out anything else from the image? you got the torpedo tubes, etc. etc. There was the fence. ⁓ the side hangers are also the bit the side hangers are they when they spoke about them, they said that the hangers are like a normal small hanger that we have. So if you have a small hanger and you bring your ship up in a small hangar, that is the size of these hangers, and there are six of them. Three on one side, three on the other side. But You can fly in through the medium hanger. That's a sick picture, by the way. It is. You can fly in through the medium hanger. ⁓ at the back. I'll I'll come back to it, sorry. I just want to get to that. ⁓ Right. Look at that. This is giving me Star Wars vibes. Yeah. Star Wars vibes, dude. ⁓ entertain chat ⁓ entertain chat for a quick sec. Okay. Absolutely. You're talking about the hangers. Okay. No, th this exact moment gives me Star Wars Battlefront 2, right? You're going back in time, you're loading in, you jump into a hangar like this, start running through the hallways of a s space station or ⁓ or a ⁓ a one of the Star Destroyers that you've just boarded and you're gonna go start fighting droids or something else. It gives me that feeling, which also makes me feel like imagine setting up a ⁓ org versus org PvP FPS battle in this thing. Like you will be entering through the medium hangar, you have to fight your way to the bridge. Go. Like how awesome would that be? How awesome would that be? Absolutely insane. But also the fact that you could potentially fly a ship into the bottom of here, then go up to the top. Getting PTSD for ⁓ Clone Wars Order 66 from this? Yes. ⁓ yes. Rex. God damn it, Rex. ⁓ We could recreate it. Just think of all the machinima opportunities with this thing. Like I'm thinking of Fat Bird right now. ⁓ we're saying this is a medium hanger, but we can squeeze some big stuff in there. Yeah, it's so it is a medium hanger, but they said the dimensions of it aren't exactly a medium hanger, it's quite a bit bigger than that. ⁓ so there's definitely an opportunity that you could get some stuff that is considered large in here. I mean, come on. One thing the Star Citizen Universe does very, very well is you go, here's a thing that you shouldn't be able to get this into, and they go, Yeah, but we managed to get it into it. So Don't tell me what I can and can't fit inside this space. And then ⁓ One Dark says, I would have preferred it if it were one huge hanger on the upper level, then a separate below, keep the lift, but seemed like we could have had more there. ⁓ I don't I don't know. I guess it just depends on what they were what they want to achieve with it and what kind of aesthetic or feel they wanted to achieve with it. ⁓ I guess to emphasize the openness and the scale and the the grandi grandios grandioseness, thank you, Brain, for agreeing with me and getting the right word, of the entire thing. Rather than it feeling too boxy on the top or on the bottom. ⁓ yeah, but just it's so it is really cool. ⁓ and ⁓ Mercedes Sang's getting PTSD from the the the Clown Wars. ⁓ this is I can just imagine. Do you know that the they're gonna we're gonna show you the the meeting room or the ⁓ what do they call it, like the council room ⁓ parliament ⁓ l in a bit. But just imagine instead of doing it there, you're you're Your captain, your org leader is standing on the elevator and you're all shoulder to shoulder across the small hangers across the top, down this side. Then you've got all your ground vehicles loaded up with some p team down here, people all the way down here kind of thing, just like watching in. And you can just do this whole ⁓ I I can't remember what Star Wars it was, but the ⁓ the one where it's the first order. ⁓ and he's doing his big speech. Before the planet killer. He uses the planet killer to to nuke the rebellion planets. ⁓ and it's just like imagine just doing doing that. I I like the red. The red is the red is pretty cool. The red is good. I would love the opportunity. So people are spending the drop of five grand on this. I would love for the opportunity for people be able to choose a color palette. And I don't know how much it's gonna mess up. Well, do you think because this is technically, even though it's a hangar, it's still technically considered like a big area of the ship that you could see from the outside. Do you think this part of the hangar is going to be included in the paint scheme? Because of the size of the ship? 'Cause so I I I've got it up on here. When you when you bring up the ship on you know, you go to the buy me section. Yes. You can do the select your paint. And you can. Yes, you can. ⁓ and there's a few different versions. I'll send you the link that I'm looking at. Yes. and go back a couple of images as well whilst we're going through. Yeah, I've just sent you the link. If you scroll down until you see the ship and it specs, then there's a select your paint option ⁓ where you can look through different paints. Nice. you can see his brain ticking and yeah. But it would it would be really cool because like I mean I kind of get it. Red is is very like combat ⁓ alert. Yes, of course. But red in red in the verse is is quite overdone, in my opinion. There's a lot of paints, there's a lot of armor sets and skins and weapons, you've got the red alert entire bundle. ⁓ red is is very Very overdone. And I don't know how easy if I mean vehicle art team can correct me on this, whenever. but it how difficult would it be to have that part of like the paint? So like if you chose if one of the I don't know what colours the paints are, I'll check that out in a quick sec, but if one was like a black and a green, like a dark green, maybe not necessarily like a luminous, like monster green, yeah, but like How hard would it be to change the colour pilot on some like aesthetic colours around the ship? ⁓ depending on the paint that you go for. Depending on the paint, because ⁓ like it is a very red paint, a very red like hanger. ⁓ I'm just ticking back for a couple of these as well. ⁓ to to go through and just highlight some of the images we missed. You've got the torpedoes coming out and arcing around, ⁓ The the the the triple size twelve ballistic cannons. ⁓ it looks so good. The way that they're firing there makes me think do they stagger as well, instead of all firing at the same time. I I hope I hope they do stagger. Like be wicked. But yeah, twelve lasers tearing a ship in half. You know what I'd love is when those big cannons fire, the ship actually either decelerates or accelerates. I I I'd love it to be ⁓ just we're gonna see how far we can get the ship just on gunpower alone and just use the shots and the cannons to move it. Yeah, and I I I used to do a a strategy on like War Thunder. ⁓ because you c it does have that mechanic. Yeah. ⁓ so whenever you're going towards the battle line, you'll just traverse your turret 180 degrees behind you and then just keep firing because it eventually speeds you up and makes you go quicker and quicker. Yeah. ⁓ but yeah imagine if you just want to like retreat out of combat, you just point all guns forward and just like fire yourself and go full reverse. ⁓ or you do like a a really quick handbrake turn and you just fire the guns in a particular way that just like twists the ship. ⁓ I think I think the physics would would break considering maybe a little bit. Yeah. Considering we can't currently have a command module flying an ironclad without it like deconstructing itself, I I think we we wait out for that one. Okay, well we'll hold out for that one. We'll hold out for that one. Yeah. Like the red here, I mean I know it's a concept image, but I'm kind of hoping the light bleach doesn't come across that much when we get it. And I know it's like it's in like combat mode, right? Like it's in like yeah, maybe when it gets to it like there is a combat mode, there is a we are going to DEF CON one and then everything changes and the red lights flash and Well yeah. ⁓ a hundred percent. If if one of these pop in, I'm just gonna make sure I've got the ⁓ the ⁓ si the ⁓ Stardustrice siren just on all the time. Hundred percent. But yeah, I mean coming back to this hangar, really, really cool. Yeah. And you can see by the size of what's there. ⁓ you've got a I that is a Valkyrie it's ⁓ Asgard. Is that the Asgard? Yeah. Asgard, yeah. ⁓ you got three therapins, ⁓ and you've got your arrows and your hawk up on the top there to show its size. And then they pointed out that these channels down here, they just go as well. Like The whole thing is just so much like it's very open and through. I just I enjoyed Mercedes. ⁓ legally distinct. Whoop. Whoop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not a Star Wars Not a Star Wars whoop. They just get the sound bite and just reverse it. Yeah. ⁓ so it's it's ⁓ it's a reverse. But then they show up the torpedo room with the carousel. The carousel is a really cool feature. Mm-hmm. ⁓ it's ⁓ it's something they started introducing. They st they introduced first with the Polaris, ⁓ where you could watch it going through. They then I then f took it an extra level and perfected it almost with the Perseus. ⁓ where you can see the really cool way that it loads in and you see everything happening, which is just awesome. And then they've gone, now let's ramp it up to a million. Yeah. And this is just to be able to sit there and I I think. What I'd want from it is to be able to feel like the weight of the the machinery and the mechanics when you lock that into place and you put it up that it just goes like sh like as it goes up and you can feel the when a torpedo goes like it creating the environment for the ship is going to be really important to giving that sense of scale. 8,000 SU of torps. So this is something that I was thinking of before. How many SEU space does a torp normally take up? Because I know they joked about working out how many torps you. get in there. Well this here, right? This image. That looks like a thirty-two SEU container. Yeah. So maybe four equals like a thirty-two SCU container worth in size. So what's that? So that's like eight SEU per torp? So you're saying a thousand torps. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. So eight SEU per torp. A thousand torps. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, four four for thirty-two. ⁓ so That would be really I th I think you couldn't do that. And how much is a torp at the moment? A lot. But running this is never going to be fi ⁓ financially viable. No. You will not run this to earn money. No. Like you if you run this to earn money, you won't run this to earn money, you will earn money to run this. Yeah. Yeah. You need people to pay you to be able to run it. But and they got the metro on the side as well. Metro's really cool, but I love this scene here. So this is obviously like the torp loading room. ⁓ you've got the carousels, so one here, but one on this side as well. ⁓ I assume these are just excess storage. So like quick access storage. ⁓ because I don't think any of this is man like you have to manually reload the tubes. Yeah. By hand. So there's no like automated loading system. Which I'm aware of. Do you think that that maybe it's a case of when you take it off and you put it and it clips on like the top fifth of the torp and then it it drags it up itself and then locks into place? Maybe. Like that kind of mechanism would be really, really cool. Well Declan said yes, they they said it was. They said it was what, manual or ⁓ like an automated loading system? Or did they say as long as it was on the conveyor belt that it would automatically load? Well it might just be like ⁓ once it's on this rail in the centre. Yeah. It's automated from there, so you just have to keep topping this up. ⁓ which makes sense. maybe I can't see any sort of mechanics from it, but maybe an arm can come down and just like hoist it into the the gap there. ⁓ because manually load loading each tube is gonna be a pain in the arse. There's twenty of them. Pete, have you had a chance to have a look at the paints yet? I'm guessing he has. Assuming he has. It's really cool the fact that it's got all of that storage, it's got storage on the carousel. ⁓ the center is just ready for you to load. Yeah, so it's all manual then, so you do have to manually throw it into the tubes. ⁓ which means you're gonna need a couple of people. Probably and probably a few people, just up the top, and you're gonna have to have a couple of people loading the carousel at the bottom as well. ⁓ one each side, two each side maybe. That's what they were saying, wasn't it? They said the the minimum crew. Literally the bare minimum you could have for this. What was it? Thirty-three? Yes. Thirty three yeah, thirty three people. Now I I know that may not sound like a lot because you know, we've got the addresses at the moment where to to crew them fully is something between like fifteen to twenty people, isn't it? If not more, I think, 'cause there's some smaller turrets and things on there. ⁓ realistically. But if you want it to be fully populated in terms of all the stuff you can do on the ship and everything to be working. I'd I'd gotta say like maybe at least sixty or seventy people. Yeah. ⁓ to be doing everything because then you've got the fighters, then you'll have the the medium hangar and then sorting out stock and reloading, then there'll be habitation, then there'll be engineering, and engineering is gonna be a massive undertaking on this. You're gonna want at least fifteen to twenty engineers potentially. ⁓ maybe not quite that so many, but potentially. Then you're gonna want Security, then you're gonna want onboard security. Then you might want a landing team, you know, like an FPS team, a boarding team. You can have a legionnaire in there. Like just the the possibilities you could have a hundred plus people on this ship. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, and and still have roles to spare. Like, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ this image here shows you how many people you're gonna require. Because you've got your medium hangers, you've got your your six small pads as well. Bear in mind all of these require all of these ships require people to to crew. So you can probably account for that in the total manning of the Odin. ⁓ so if you've got a single seat of fighters or two seated fighters up here, that's six or twelve people straight away. Mm-hmm. And that's not even people working on the ship. Then you're gonna have a ship down here, which is probably gonna be reserved for maybe something more along the lines of like a drop ship. or shuttle or medical ships or I don't know. Maybe a plethora of more two seat fighters. ⁓ or that is, I believe, a paladin that's currently sitting on the the medium pad. So a paladin might be really cool as well. ⁓ couple of eclipses maybe to get some extra torped in. ⁓ dude, yeah. But then You're going across, you've got the walkway down here, but then you've got the tram system. So this is the whole cargo length. Yeah. So this is the carousel. This is where your backup torps are. And then here you've got I think it's here you've got all your cargo. So the elevator actually goes up a bit diagonally, which is really cool. ⁓ and then this is the main cargo area. ⁓ they said there's six stops on the train. So here is one of the entrance of the metro. Well, for example, the the the rooms and the places that they haven't shown us, for example, are forward engineering, hospital, hospital, canteen, crew quarters. They've given us an image of command and control. There's fire control. They've shown us a bit of the briefing rooms in the bridge, ⁓ aft engineering. ⁓ and that's like half of the spaces that we haven't even seen yet. That also lead crew. Yeah. And a grow room, ⁓ on top of the kitchen. ⁓ there's a lot of I didn't even know about that. That's sick. So he said, so Jared said it's a self sustaining kitchen or self sustaining canteen. So and then they said there's a grow room, ⁓ basic a greenhouse. So you're gonna be able to grow foods to create meals on board. Wow. But you've got your your map room, I think, is here, your serenity room or your calm room ⁓ at the top. And you've got your your staircase. There's a staircase. I think this is inside or outside, but there is one outside. There is one outside, yeah. And then you've got all of this so like you'll have engines, ⁓ engineering back here where like your engine room is. Yeah. And then you've got this whole front section. This whole front section is mainly gonna be th for the front gun. So I don't really see much fitting in and around this area. No, I think I think From what I'm looking at the thing on here, on the Odin page, there's a features section and it gives you numbered ⁓ elements of where things are. Where you're looking there at the front of the ship, number fourteen is ⁓ just slightly to your left where those vents are. Yeah. That that's front engineering. Everything else around that is all the laser and the cannons. Yeah. Welfare facilities. Where's HR? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna need it 'cause you're gonna need a lot of people on this ship. And they've already said that you're gonna have like you're gonna have to have people in charge of certain people. Yeah. Like not, ⁓ you're gun and guns, you're doing this, you're doing this, you're doing this, everyone reports to the captain. You're gonna have someone in charge of, like they said, in charge of security. And the guy in security make sure the ship system's running, like as in security focused. So you're gonna have to have people with like f ⁓ like combat sort of I don't know what you would call them, like combat commanders in the remote turret room. Which are pointing out targets for the remote remote gunners to hit. So Yeah, it does make me wonder, because you know you you had that like command bridge, for example, and it had different layers and levels to it. Whether one level is target acquisition, one level is fleet management, one level is like yeah, like this, for example. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ of of which level are those and which one does what? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like dude, it's just gonna be And and to to be able to see that eventually, populated with what's going on around you. Like when I first got my Polaris, for example, I can r vividly remember coming up, seeing that space just behind the bridge and going, ⁓ if only I could actually see what's on my radar on there. That's what I want. I want to be stood there, arms on the side, being like, Insure to cover our left flank and then you watch the fighters come past you on the left flank on the screen and everything's going on around you and just Yeah. Yeah, dude. When when that's a thing, 'cause I know that's something they're planning on doing. Kiss. So good. This room here is really cool. Because there's two of these rooms. This is obviously the turret for top and bottom. Yeah, the triple the triple cannons. ⁓ and just seeing the the rounds ⁓ just on the wall, ⁓ which is really, really cool. I don't really understand how these rounds fire because they look like Just the inert heads. So like currently in most tanks we have like two piece ammunition, three piece ammunition. ⁓ I'm currently only seeing the the the the the warheads almost whatever you'd call it, but the the rounds or the shells. Yeah. There's no it doesn't look like these would fire without something else. ⁓ but I mean it's not a it's not a sim game, so ⁓ although I have just realized the time, CJ. Yes. So we'll we can go through real quick. Do you have a hard cut? I don't have a hard cut, no. But it just I can ⁓ like an extra ten minutes. Yeah, it's fine. Cool. Right. So we've got the the meeting room or or the the co the council or something. Really, really cool. So where you can brief up your team beforehand. ⁓ I didn't see this part of it. That's incredibly cool. That is pretty cool. And then you've got the bridge. Yeah. ⁓ and then they like this was the head of security, this is obviously the captain, this is somebody else. ⁓ then they're gonna show you Yeah, that's HR. And then they're gonna show you the big like cocoon. ⁓ which so you can do a ⁓ a little chat if you wanna just have a c a quiet chat with the first thing I thought of that was somebody not realizing it was going up and get sliced in half. I imagine. First thing I thought of. Yeah. Yeah. So this is your remote gun systems room. So this has your eight remote turrets, ⁓ which is really, really cool. You'll have like Person in charge of weapons, kind of like here, or not weapons but remote turrets. Window bro. Yeah, you just he's looking out the window going, shoot that man. that one. Yeah, just just blast that one. ⁓ all guns remove everything in that in that direction. ⁓ I don't like it. That's really cool. ⁓ we can skip a few things here. We can see a lot of actuation. Look at that. A lot of things happening. And it's does it show it back up? It's like daytime and nighttime. Where just it's it's rolling cold, everything's in. It's nice and quiet. And then it does turn into a warship pretty quick. Yeah. ⁓ absolute madness. Pretty boyfy. we can skip through this bit a little bit because obviously this is all subject change, but this is ⁓ Alberto's ⁓ concept renders ⁓ in Blender. So he goes through the ship ⁓ and basically walks around a couple of the bits. But here you can just see a lot of the detail. You've got the ⁓ the twelve ⁓ laser cannon ⁓ whatever you want to call it. So basically this is gonna be a single solo player ship, ⁓ because you can now operate it solo. ⁓ all the tubes on the top if you've got about if you've got a bounty on your head and you come outside your bunker and you look up, there'll be an ode in there with its r with its giant laser cannon. Yeah, exactly. And I I love the way he just deletes Well, it deletes the man, yeah. He just deletes the dude, yeah. Cause they they make a joke about it's the size of how the size of it. ⁓ and then he goes around, got all the external areas, he's hiding all of his all of his people. ⁓ Gridamus has said, I just want one so I can park it over Lorville's hangers and then no one can get in or out. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ the escape pods. We've seen a num there's a number of those around. Yep. ⁓ but these are really, really cool. so the crews can get to safety. ⁓ realistically, we if it was a drake ship, it wouldn't have them because there is a no ejection policy. There is a moment that you cannot give up if you're on a drake ship. ⁓ but it's really, really cool with all of those guns out, all of those engines or engines, if one dark was here. ⁓ In spirits almost as if I can hear him slating us for saying it now. Yeah, a hundred percent. The the lift that can have two thousand SU worth of cargo on it. Yeah, it it can have the same amount of cargo that you can get in an ironclad. Just chilling on a lift. On a lift. Yeah, on a lift. Fine. ⁓ train. That's just unreal. No, it's not. This is in Blender. it is really, really cool. ⁓ and then this was Yeah, this was Alberto's favorite favorite ⁓ concept image. Yeah. But that's his dog. Well, it's not his dog. This is a one he's styled in in the game of his dog. ⁓ but yeah, he ⁓ what's his dog's name? Bran? I'm pretty sure it's Bran. Something like that, I think. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. And and every time we meet him at Bar Citizen, we're always we're always asking, How's how's the dog? How's the doggy doing? How's the dog doing? And then don't worry about the ships you're working on. How's the dog? No, exactly. One of the last times we spoke to him, he said he's he's dog escaped and killed his neighbour's chicken. so dog's doing good. Did he level up? I feel like that's a level up moment. Yeah. Yeah. Again. Look at that. Well, I think gorgeous. Smolder. But ⁓ Pete did make a good point. so I knew this was gonna happen, and the moment that somebody said, ⁓ we've passed the one billion in funding point, the articles begin. Yep. They sit there and they wait, and the moment it comes out, the same clickbaity titles that we've had at 900 mil, eight hundred mil, seven hundred mil, six hundred mil, five hundred mil, it's the same one copy and pasted over and over again. ⁓ for me, I want to see Squadron coming. Squadron needs to come out, and then at least there's something tangible on the end of it. Don't get me wrong, if we go back two, three years, from when ⁓ four years almost from when I first started playing this game, the difference is mind-blowing in the way the game is now to what it was back then. So many advancements, so many things have come on. Yeah, well, it's with with new things come new ways to break the things. The game was playable. Hey, I joined in 218, ⁓ 318. It was not playable. Yeah, yeah, but very shortly afterwards it it was playable. So hopefully very shortly after four point eight. It'll be playable. It's got the eight. It's got something to do with having an eight in the patch. I think so. ⁓ but I think I think Squadron needs to be out by the end of the year. I I think we'll have it in some way, shape, or form. We've spoken about this before. We don't talk about 318. Sorry. Patch that shall not be named. Um30K. ⁓ it's better than that. We still ain't got four point ⁓ yet. We don't have time for this. ⁓ no, no, just you know, I think I think we'll have squadron in some way, shape, or form by the end of the year. That's what I think. Hopefully. Yeah. What's what's your feelings on the one bill, CJ? It's just more money in it. ⁓ I I think for many of us it's we're just numb to it, really, aren't we? To be fair. It does doesn't really mean much we're 20 brushes. I'm just gonna say it's like it's a made up milestone. Like yeah, they got one bill, but like they they're gonna hit it eventually at some point. So it's not really a big deal, is it? Like we knew it was happening this year. So yeah, it's cool, but it doesn't speed up gameplay. We're not getting. Unless they turn around and say everyone that was a backer for the one bill drop, you get something cool, like Noden. ⁓ then it's it's not really I don't know, not really asked. Well, I ⁓ see this is this is the interesting thing as well, where some people who are playing the game are actually in the game, right, enjoying it, playing it at the time, but like, can't believe they got to one bill, this is insane. And I'm just like, You did this. Yeah. This is Yeah. It was a game you did. It was all of your stupidity. This is the reason you you you are to blame. Like it's the hypocrisy. You're in there playing the game, enjoying the game, getting annoyed at the game, and being like, ⁓ duh, I can't believe ⁓ how is it how have they got this much funding, you say, sat in your Polaris? Like, ⁓ I just don't know how this could have happened. No, I ⁓ you did it. That was that was all you're yeah, yeah. Shut up. go to Hurston or something. Oops, I'm just gonna have a quick look because the second wave has just been at at nine PM, so an hour ago. the second wave of Odin sales has come through. So we need to we'll obviously wait to see what the finance ⁓ track has ⁓ done. But I can imagine they've probably dropped a same number of same as last time, it was six point six, did you say? Six point six, I think it was. ⁓ potentially thirteen point two. Yeah. If it was just all Odin sales. But that's that's so six point six million, if it was all Odin sales, you divide that by by five thousand, the cost of the Odin, then that's one thousand three hundred and twenty Odins. So to be safe, if you just say one thousand three hundred Odins were sold, war bonders, that doesn't even include store credit. Yeah. If you take that six point six mil, that that's crazy. that's more than the twenty twelve Kickstarter ⁓ and the website campaign. In just an hour. Insane. In just Odins. ⁓ Dice. But crazy. Yeah. We do have more to cover. I wanted to cover some refueling issues, but We're already overrun. So I think we'll save that. ⁓ he let one duck take holidays. He can take as many holidays as you want. But when it when it comes when it comes to the end of the year, then we'll remember, you know, when review time comes around. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. When the reports are due in. ⁓ when we're all doing our Christmas party and ⁓ we're all having a drink and refilling our glasses. Yeah, yeah. But ⁓ When we decide to put a new ship on the company card and we're like, yeah, but not one dark. Nah, no. Nah, no, no. Cool. But ⁓ yeah. Have you got any more points? Anything you wanted to cover about the Odin? ⁓ I think that just people have made some very good points, yourself included, CJ, of just saying how is it going to work in the verse? which is which I think we're also basing on our Vision of the verse now, which is minute in comparison to what they want to do. So I I guess it's it's easy to hypothesize and easy to theorize, but we're not going to know until the point the verse is at is as it is when this thing releases. So we can hypothesize, we can sit, we can maybe scrutinize, but ultimately it's a really cool ass looking ship. And when it does eventually release. I look forward to getting on one. I look forward to being near it when it fires its cannons. I hope it's not at me. Then, you know. and so I said, I've just joined in. Could you start again? Not a bother, ⁓ if it is. So we're gonna go, but One Dark has now said, didn't you, One Dark, that you will jump in and do your own one on your own for another hour. ⁓ he was gonna do it text only as well, the whole time. He's just gonna sit in chat for the next hour now and it'll answer all your questions. Yeah. ⁓ hundred percent. But yeah, I agree, it is a cool looking s cool looking ship. Yeah. but i there ain't enough money in the verse to make running it worthwhile. There's gonna be no situations where taking an Odin's gonna be useful. Yeah. Because why would you take an Odin when you can just take like four or five Idrises fully crewed with the same crew like manning numbers? And all you need to do is with an Idris. rail gun from like four K away is hit the engines. The engines. The engines. ⁓ and then and then it's incapacitated. It's it can't go nowhere. You don't need to worry. You don't need to disable it or destroy it. It's not in the fight anymore. So it'll just be drifting off into space. So I don't know. mad props to the dev team that take it on but I genuinely don't think it's I think it's a silly purchase. He thinks it's a silly purchase until he gets in his golem and gets the clip of the sentry when he takes one out solo in Golem. Still a silly purchase. If you can get bodied by Gollum then then I I I paid what sixty sixty five bucks or whatever it for my golem and I've and if I can take down a a a five K ship. To be fair, Gridamas made a point of saying prototyping for stations, that's what I think this is going to benefit. So having something like this, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'd say so. Speaking of that that's a whole other subsection, but Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is. That's something we can ⁓ we can come on to at another time. ⁓ 'cause I own a pioneer. I own a pioneer, I'm gonna make me a space station bitch. Yeah, sorry. I'm gonna I've I've gotten to an IAE now to sort of like work out the funding for a kraken. ⁓ because that I won't need a space station. There's a kraken, we'll just be a space station. Yeah. ⁓ but yeah. Cool. Okay. Right. Well No points? No, I think I think that is it. So with that, ⁓ I think we're gonna say a massive thank you to everyone for coming along. Thank you so much. Thank you for chatting with us, for theorizing with us, for going through big ass guns and big ass ships. ⁓ it's been really good. Thank you everyone for coming along. Thank you for those who are listening over on Spotify, Apple s ⁓ sound something. I can't remember the name of it. GFA's so much better than this. ⁓ we will be back. Same time again next week. Appreciate you all very, very much. And you can probably catch me and CJ in his ⁓ in his Discord based mini game. Fighting over ships. ⁓ We'll be we'll be having a go at each other. ⁓ absolutely we will. But yes. Who's gonna get the first item? I think it's gotta be Yeah. But ⁓ yeah. Until then. Talk to you later. Bye bye.