Doug + Audio: All right. everybody, ⁓ Dad Livin. Welcome back guys. What's happening guys? How are you guys doing? A little tired tonight. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long week. Thanks for the extra pick me up. Yeah. Right. Right. We took a, took a book out of Joe Rogan's page. got some smelling salts. So, you know, dad's at, uh, nine 14 after a long day of work. I remember that at like eight 30 normally. So this is late for me. Same Z's. Yeah. Well you're on the six to six, right? Yeah. So 6 AM. Yeah. bless you. course, you you are going to Vegas. So I don't, don't feel bad. Don't feel bad for me because, ⁓ yes, we have a great time. Little shit. The doightmans begin their trips. Yes, there it is. Right. Six first one of year. Let's go. Love it. Yep. Well, ⁓ yeah. Welcome to all you out there listening or watching, ⁓ today on dad living. We're going to be going over, ⁓ the stuff. dads don't say out loud, which I think is a lot. And, ⁓ I mean, there's a lot out there. I know we've talked about it where there's so much and you know, wives out there. I know there's so much on YouTube. can go along with this as well. We're talking about from a dad's point of view. I think the moment that baby comes out, ⁓ and someone calls you dad for the first time immediately, you know, it's wow. How am going to provide? protect all these things with the baby, right? Did, mean, do you have that? yeah. yeah. There was no doubt. I would warn people after like I had my kids and they're getting ready to have one. was like, just fully be expected to get kicked in the balls, like emotionally and physically and like financially and just roll with it. Right. Literally you'll be kicked in the balls for about eight years. Yeah. Once, once they get older. mean, honestly, when, when we talk about that, talk about just having kids in general. I felt like that's when I started getting emotional with things. never had a mo like I rarely had emotions, but honestly, like that was the first time I really had emotions tied to it. I mean, obviously like with Cal and get married and all those things. Yes. Like loved it, but I felt like that was a different type of emotion. Yeah. When you have a kid, like you guys remember the first drive home. ⁓ my God. Yeah. Yeah. Responsibilities thrust on you and everything changes. think about everything differently, like a hundred percent. Yeah. Even that hospital, you're like, how the hell are they letting me walk out of the door with this baby? I have no idea what I'm doing. Right. And then the emotions, man, it's real. I don't know. I'll hear a song. I watch a movie. Tears hit. I'm like thinking of my kids. I'm like, what the hell is wrong with me? Right? Every where did this come from? Yeah. Like it's happened to me driving to work. I'm like, why? What just happened to me? Right. It's true. I don't know. Well, I was up. I was one that never showed emotion, man. You bury that shit and that's it. Yeah, that's that's that's true. I mean, yeah, all of a sudden the floodgates open up and I don't know. Now change. Learned. Accept it a little bit. Well, you go from being wrapped up in your world and the things that used to matter like that don't all of a sudden. And yeah, there's you're living for something so much more than just yourself. And for the first time, you're not living for yourself. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I mean, obviously, yeah, you know, we, have our wives that were living far, you know, before that. But, Like our own kids, like that we made. Yeah. It's powerful, man. ⁓ my God. I mean, it really shows you how beautiful humanity is. But I think in the same thing, I mean, I think all of us can agree. And a lot of dads out there right now, how scared and how fear, fear, you know, fearing it is because of the fact like now you're bringing a kid into the world. Yeah, that is just absolutely amazing. but it's also terrifying as well. You know, so I'm one of the, one of the things I was kind of putting together as I was thinking about the episode and what you had sent over, I sat there for 30 minutes and I just typed, I typed what I was feeling and what I was going through. And, really, you know, when Gus and Adeline were born, ⁓ once again, something shifted in me, I could tell right off the bat. And I still remember when our doctor who was awesome, ⁓ said, Hey, here you go, dad. Like I, I've never been called dad before. And that, that caught me right there. I kind of felt that well up a little bit. ⁓ but then again, like immediately when they left and you're sitting there with your wife and now you're kiddo. ⁓ wow. I mean, it was just, ⁓ that was amazing. ⁓ but also it was also the, wow. Like now I have a human now I got to Now I got to protect them. got to provide, I got to do all this stuff. And our life has changed so rapidly. And like for me, it was always like, I never paid attention to news. And then I started paying attention to what was going on and school shootings and all these things, because now I was bringing a kid into that and how I was going to protect them. And I mean, my head just went crazy. Like it went crazy. And I remember the first week thinking about those things over and over and over and over. And I just kept on, you know, focusing on the positive and then thinking like, Hey, this will go away. But then it never does. I think as dads, we always have to think about those things. And, and, and really, I mean, the world is awesome, but it's also scary. And I'm constantly today thinking of ways like we were just talking about how are we going to train our kids to be ready for a situation like that? ⁓ you know, we just booked a trip to Mexico with all the craziness going on down there. How, like, are they prepared for that in a third world country? So, you know, there's a lot that goes on, but I don't want the negative to overshadow the positive because I think too, like, ⁓ this morning I dropped them off of the bus and I got the biggest hug and kiss and I, when they got on the bus, I missed them so much. I wish they were still there with me. So like there's so much positive too. So, I mean, I see this all the time, ⁓ stories. you know, about, well, just the decline in birth rate these days. And, you know, people are always citing, they don't want to bring kids into this crazy world. And I, I mean, I get that, but at the same time, like whether the world's crazy or not, like we are living in like the most peaceful time worldwide, whether it doesn't feel like that or not, but like, I've never been safer, richer and happier than we are right now. I mean, just like, as humans. need to have more babies though, man. Like there's, ⁓ we're not going to keep up. still like part of that though, you know, that's, that's an excuse that people use, I think, but the world's always, there's always been things that are unsafe. It's just the instantaneous ability that we have to get information and the way that media and things portray the bad, it's just up in front of your face. Now where's Back in the day where we were growing up, you had to wait for the newspaper or, you know, whatever would come on a Friday with all the news. And then you get caught up. It's just that that's what I think drives a lot of fear and people thinking that the world isn't as safe as it used to be. It's there's always been issues. It's just, we're more aware and more in tune with what's going on. know, that that that's my perspective. I agree with you. There's I mean, there's a lot of peace and happiness that's actually going on. It's just. What gets published size and blasted, you know, in our faces is the things that are going to get people to watch and pay attention. Yeah. And you said in a previous episode last season, you said something about, you know, Brody going over a couple streets. You remember when we were kids and where we would go with our bikes at? I mean, we didn't have that. Like my parents probably had the fear, but it was probably like, ⁓ I don't think your parents feared. think they're like, whatever. don't want to see your face till dinner. know, like once again, I was, I was talking, um, with some coworkers a while back and we were talking about just like, uh, for millennials and I'll group us in with millennials here, you know, for the biggest thing for us is, um, like school shootings, school shootings didn't happen until 1999 with Columbine. At least they weren't publicized like that. Um, You know, that is something that lives in my head every day. We hear so much about it, which it's like, I don't get how people could harm kids regardless of, of, of anything. So as a dad, it's tough for me to think that. And know you, you probably see a lot more than we do with that, which I know it's real, but I won't go into details. Yeah. But, at the end of the day, like, yeah, I mean, our, our pack pack in the day, you know, in the nineties, we have. I, we never had to, I agree with you. I think that's, that's when the kids started going to like elementary school. Um, and when I went into, was checked one of them out or whatever, the amount of security you have to go through to scan ideas and all of that. That was the first time it hit me where I was like, wow, like this process is way different than what it ever was when I was growing up. And that is one of the things I agree that fears me. And it is sad for our children. That those are the things they have to be worried about. Like that one, that that's one, I agree with you with something that like we might not talk about that. That does scare me. And I feel bad for my children that that's something that they have to be prepared for. Yeah. Well, and I remember I was talking with your wife, who's a school teacher at a middle school and, um, she was talking about doing active shooter training, which, you know, we had what fire drills, we had little things like that, but I mean, once again, just trying to wrap my head around that, you know, it's, it brings it to real life, which is tough. Different time, obviously. Yeah. It's far cry from, you know, they, like you said, the fire or tornado drills that we used to do. right, right. But you know, kind of backing up rather than just talking about the fear. mean, obviously there's, there's a lot of things dads just in general, like, and, one of the things that you had posted in the very beginning was the the providing piece. You we talked about that before. I don't think it'd be more real. mean, obviously, like Megan's a stay at home mom. You're the sole provider in that case. Thanks for stressing me out. I know, I know. But, but you know, that's good to talk about. You guys both have school teachers. ⁓ Yeah, which, you know, I mean, we could sit here and talk about how unfair the wages are with that. Still, think, you know, in general though, it's as you become an apparent, whether a father or a mother, the financial worries just amplify more because you're not just worried about yourself. You're worried about providing for your children and giving them the best life that, you know, you hope that you can give them. And I think every parent strives to give their children a better life than what they had. Right. And so you've just got that added pressure where it's. Again, you brought home a new child. It's not about you anymore. It's about this family and it's about everybody who's there and you want to provide for them as best as you can. And that creates its own stress. There's no doubt about it. and, yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't, mean, it's, it's real. There's no doubt that it used to just be how much money can I make to go get a beer and go out with my buddies and okay, I got a hundred bucks cash. Sweet. Now it's like, shit, you got house, car, everything, you know, all the things that go into providing for a family. it, at times it can be like the added pressure of living in America society, all the stuff that everybody needs and wants. like, it puts so much more pressure and anxiety on things. Whereas I was listening to this podcast the other day and they're, you know, they brought up, I've heard this before, but like, If you make more than $34,000, you're in the top 1 % as far as the world. Yeah. And this guy was telling the story. He was in a third world country and he was getting a tour of the village and they had nothing. I, they had just got electricity to their Island or whatever. Yeah. Like a year before and they didn't want it. Like they're, they're happy. They're content with their simple life. And like, I think we get so out of touch sometimes of like, how we're really supposed to be living, which is just working hard every day, making sure your family's safe, just connecting with people. I think we're just so disconnected by all the chaos and hustle and bustle sometimes where, yeah, okay, yeah, I gotta make sure I'm putting money on the table. Okay, I think I'm getting ahead. Then we got all these new things we gotta pay for and like stuff we gotta plan. months from now, years from now, it's just, ⁓ it can be a lot sometimes it just weighs on you. ⁓ Especially with like what I do, like I don't have consistent income where like, you know, I'm in real estate. like money comes in waves sometimes. So it's like, I got to like project out, you know, like, okay, what's coming in the next 90 days? Like what bills are we got paying coming up? So ⁓ while I have time freedom with what I do. It's a different level of stress to like maybe you guys can't relate to. no. Yeah, I just, I just got the visualization. He said bring in, throw money on the table. I'm like, man, I want to come home with you, man. I can see Johnny close out of house being like money. We're good. No, no, but I agree. I agree. Let me ask you guys this. So, you know, obviously my number one thing and bringing kids is, you know, I guess the thing I think about is obviously a little bit more of the fear, but also, like, I don't know, I always I always think of what, like, how can I take advantage of the moment? Like, that's how I'm always thinking about it with Kel and the kids. If like, I know this sounds morbid, but, you know, if I weren't here tomorrow, am I am I happy with today? Am I happy with that last interaction? Am I happy with those things? in a positive way. I don't want to sound morbid, but I think it reframed my mindset and just saying, I want to get the most out of my life. And I'll say it with you guys. Like my interactions, you guys like did, you know, was, was that a great last interaction? And I can't wait for the next time. But if it doesn't come like, you know, in a very morbid positive way, I guess you could say, like, I want to be happy with that. Like given my kids extra kisses, spending the time with them. ⁓ when I know They're like, those are always like little things weighing on my head. But what would you guys say is like the top thing that you always think of as a dad that you never really say? I say, well, I guess I don't say it, but I say it to my kids. Like, cause my kids are, cause I go to work at like weird times. So it's like, why do you have to go do that? Like, why do you have to be gone? And it's like, cause that's my job. Like I not job like as, I'm going to work. Like that's my job as a father. Like I have. to go to work to provide for you guys so you can do the things that you want to do and have a good life. And, you know, we have this nice house and all these things. So, you know, I, I try not to keep that a secret to them, especially to my son, cause I want my son to understand it's like, Hey, it's like our job as a man to like, you know, provide for our families and stuff. You see me do this. You see me go to work even when I'm dead tired, even when I really don't want to do it, even maybe when I'm sick, like I have to go because that's my job as a provider. So. Um, that's something that I do say to him quite a bit. Uh, I tried to get that point across at least cause I want them to understand that it's important. Yeah. I it. Man. I, I feel like I had a lesson with Brody. Uh, I came from basketball practice before this and, I had to get on them in front of the team and, uh, he was kind of loafing around and on the drive home. I'm like, Hey man, like, you know, You show, when you show up, like you got to give your effort, matter what you're doing. I know this was practiced tonight, but we practice like we're going to play the game and you should apply that to everything in life. Like, you know, whatever you're doing, give it, give it your all, you know? And, I think that's really important quality and traits, ⁓ that's being lost along this generation is coming up and people just. getting by doing the bare minimum collecting paycheck and like half of least resistance. Yes. And like, dude, if you want to like stand out in the future, like I think that's something that's going to be huge. ⁓ yeah, that's been something recent that just came up in my life. Yeah. Yeah. Try to think similar to you, Deutman. It just happened today. along the work related but school, know, sometimes everybody wakes up, everybody's moping around. They don't wanna go to school. They don't wanna do this. I've been just today was trying to relate to them like, you know, kids, I feel the same as you. Like I'm really tired today and I don't wanna go to work either. I know you don't wanna go to school but there's some things we just have to do. And those things are part of life and you know, it's just... part of the ways of being who you are, right? Like, I don't know, it's along those lines, trying to teach them and relate to them, you the same thing. Like, you've gotta work, you've gotta put in the effort. Sometimes you don't want to, but it's gonna pay off at the end. And that just happened, was, I think it was this morning, I don't know, this week's been a blur for me. But it was along those same lines. It's just what's happened recently. Yeah. Trying to, yeah, you know, what are some of the things that I wish I said more? I don't know. I think I'm still a person who doesn't express a whole lot of emotions and we've talked about that. Like it's okay. I mean, I mentioned it just a little bit ago. I've you bury that shit, right? I, think that's something that I want to make sure that especially my boys know is okay. Cause I think we're in a different world where obviously you should be able to express those things. And I probably need to do a better job of communicating that. You know, when we're having situations where the kids are crying or whatever, I try to get down on their level and figure out what's going on and talk to them about it. But, you know, I don't know if they've probably reflected too much and have seen me in an emotional state outside of being angry because of whatever's going on. But, you know, the other emotions are okay as well. And I think that's something that I want to make sure that they know they can do because I think that provides a level of. psychological safety for them to around us to be who they are and be able to express what they need to and, you know, continue to come to us and share in the long run. So probably something that I would say I'm not doing now that I would like to reframe and try to focus on as we go forward, especially as the kids get older and things start getting a little harder and people, you know, they start understanding more of their feelings and being more aware of the situations around them. yeah, I think that's that's what I would like to start doing more. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I like that too, you know, especially as we're talking about all these things, like showing the strength and, and the hard work and the dedication and putting it in, but then also the vulnerabilities, like it's okay to talk about these things because well, at the end of the day, if it, if you internalize that, it's going to eat the shit out of you and it's going to suck. Like, and it's going to build up and who knows, like, you know, you don't want that to happen. So talk about it. And that's where it's like, Yeah, I think in so many cases for dads, ⁓ you know, especially out there listening, ⁓ just internalizing it. Not good. It's so, it's so instinctual to do that. I mean, at all of our dads. talking earlier about, you know, some other things and how like if something's going on with me, it's like, I just keep moving. I stay busy and you just kind of deflect from it. Keep your mind off of it. You move on to the next thing and kind of bury it. Yeah. Right. ⁓ probably not the best thing to be doing for myself. We've talked about that, your health and how that builds up and you know, how that can cause a mental illness. But that's, that's how I've learned to cope. find different outlets, but I was reading a thread earlier today in this men's Facebook group and it was, ⁓ this guy made this post. It was very alpha energy. It was like, he's like, F your mood work more. Like if you're tired, work more just like Very healthy mental health, know, wasn't me. it? No, no, but like everybody, I've never pushed like 90 % of the people comment. They're like, dude, you're way off. Like this is not healthy advice. Like it, but this is just what men have been told and passed on. It's a generation. Yeah. And, ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Well, and I think, I think it applies. Like if you talk about, ⁓ like recently, USA, USA men's talkie one. Yeah. I thinking about this thinking, I think it applies. Like when you talk about sports, I watched a miracle the night before that game and that, that, for first off, Kurt Russell plan killed it. It was amazing when he's talking to, ⁓ it wasn't a Ruzioni. ⁓ it was one of the, one of the guys, ⁓ why am I blanking? that would player, but he got like a bone Callahan or Callahan or, yeah, it was one of the guys. And, um, he came in and was like, you know, playing like a bunch of pansies, like suck it up. You you're playing with a bruise or you're sitting because of bruise. I think in some cases, yeah. Like you have to, you have to fight through, you know, sometimes you're tired. You have to provide, you have to do those things, but what like we've talked about with stress and anxiety and all those things like when do you feel like you're burnt out and all these all these signs know those know those limits like it's okay to to kind of work through some some stuff or ⁓ you know put your mind to it but just make sure you take a step back and get to a place where you feel good and you know I think in this case like when we talk about our kids when we talk about our wives like don't block them out. I feel like guys like that, like you were just talking about in that thread. They're like, fuck this, like blah, blah, blah. They're, they're those guys that block everyone out and get divorced and have these things. I'm not saying all the cases out there, but like, doesn't lead to a good path. apply, apply that to working out, apply that to, putting in the hard work or dedication. If you play sports, apply it to that. ⁓ but don't apply it to your life every day. mean, I do think keeping yourself busy. to a degree like if you're burnt out and you are stressed to the gills and you the best thing you probably do is change your physical physical state. Yeah, good get you know, like last Friday, I was I was running like two hours sleep. Shitty day. I felt like shit. And I'm just gonna shut down tonight, go to bed early, woke up, went to the gym, did the sauna, just like total one knee and you know, and I needed that. If I would have just stayed up late again, burying myself in work and then, you know, whatever done something unhealthy. ⁓ you're just going to continue that stress building up and burning out. mean, I do think though, but like ruminating in your thoughts, you know, if you do have a hobby to keep busy or your work is a distraction to agree. I mean, I don't know. It's, it's a fine line. I don't know the right, the right. Yeah, about it sometimes, you know. Yeah, no, and that's true. And that's, and that's good that you're catching yourself like going through that. I mean, like the first step, you, have to catch yourself like at the end of the day, and you got to talk about it. You got to figure out what the hell's wrong. ⁓ you know, I, I've toyed around doing meditation or just having some time where I can try to stop my thoughts or like, just have, have some 10 minutes of downtime. I don't know. I'm in the same boat. Like I haven't slept well the past few nights. I'm thinking about a hundred million things and hitting this goal at work. And, ⁓ you know, we're getting into crazy birthday season with the kiddos and all this stuff. And I feel like I'm dropping stuff constantly. So what has happened naturally? I sleep in like crap, just like what you were saying. And, and, ⁓ you know, I think at that case, it's like, right. ⁓ how can I not do that? And one of the things that I keep on coming across is. you know, just sitting down and meditating for 10 minutes, thinking about these things and being intentional with your time. Like nobody gets the end of their life and says, I wish I worked more. Right. Right. ⁓ I heard that too. And one of the biggest things like we're big on block schedules at work. Like I have to block out time. ⁓ one of the, segments I read is first like a dad, why aren't you blocking out your personal family time? I was like, Whoa. Think about that. Like, I know you don't have block schedules, but you have schedules that you go through. Like you're doing this and this and this. I like that. That hit me like a ton of bricks because I look at my fricking calendar and I see 50 hours worth of meetings and all this stuff going on. like, wow, where is my time outside of that? Like I, today I worked till five 30 picked up the kids. I cooked, ⁓ well I've had errands run for PTO stuff and You know, here, here I am. So yeah. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah. But, uh, but yeah, you know, I think as we, we talk about these things and I love the, the, the one kind of thing that we're thinking about, it's just, you know, having that time where you're, you're being intentional with your family, being intentional with your loved ones in that case. Um, and talking about these things too, not at three AM after you've had 10 drinks. but talking about those things if they do come up and just being heard, like talk with your group of guys out there, you know, like we're doing right now. I think it's so helpful and healthy and we continue to talk about that. One of my favorite things being here with you guys and talking about it. ⁓ So one of the segments and we're gonna kind of flip ⁓ for the last five minutes here ⁓ is this is 40. I love that segment. Right now, ⁓ I'm the only one 40. got some, March birthdays. We got a May birthday here. So really, I mean, for a lot of millennials out there, ⁓ that are dads, ⁓ I love the segment idea and Johnson brought it up where we want to kind of bring this in and, and my segment actually tied in with, ⁓ with something that we were talking about early, going back to our childhood. And for you guys, my question for you is. What is the one thing that you wish your kids had that we had grown up? Like that our kids don't have their kids don't have. So transport yourself back to 1990, 1993 or four. Yeah. Remember those, those, good old days. I wish they, ⁓ didn't have a streaming. I wish we could just go back to you had a TV. Maybe you had cable, maybe you didn't and you had a show you wanted to watch and. that one hour a week is the time you had to watch it. They are so spoiled sometimes with, know, ⁓ they can't like fast forward to the commercial. What is this? My kids are asking me, what is this? What is this? I was like, it's a commercial. Why do we have to watch it? they just like any thing they think of to watch? Like, we'll just search for it on TV. You don't understand the struggle. had to go to blockbuster and hunt for that. Right. Mine's easy. And it's not that you can't do this, but nobody does this anymore. Or like sleepovers. Like, dude, do you remember the times we had like, Hey man, we've got a couple of pizzas. We're playing gold night tonight. We're up till three, four o'clock in the morning, just drinking sodas and hanging out. Like, I don't know if my daughter has spent the night at any of her friend's house. I guess my son has like once. I was going to say like, your daughter's age, I think she'd be doing it by now, but no, not really. It's not a thing. Like, I get, like, you know, it of goes back to what we're talking about before. Like I think a lot of people are convinced that like, there's just so much bad and predators and stuff out there, you know, and it like, there certainly are, but it's that, yeah, it's not any worse than what it was when we were younger. We just see it now. So it is kind of a shame that kids have kind of lost that. I agree. I saw a segment about this, this other podcasts, which I won't name the guys like if the one mistake that parents are making is sleepovers, like never do it. You're putting your children at risk and it's like, like put them at risk when you them on the bus and you're always putting all day long in, in honestly, if I know there's silent and hidden things, but get to know the people or, you know, do it with cousins or something like that. Like you don't send them to a stranger's house. Obviously. Exactly. You know, so, but I, I agree. Those God, man, those were so much fun. just, awesome. That's a good one, man. Yeah. God. Cause everything I keep going to is like a tangible thing, but like a sleepover. could be a tangible thing. How amazing. was just such a sly memory. was amazing. And you'd stay up way too late laughing. mean, I remember doing cousins friends. You'd be getting yelled at to go to bed and you're giggling about the dumbest things and you just, yeah, man, what a great moment. Yeah. Can't do that now. No, can't do that. It's like cameras everywhere. not happening. Yeah. Mine, mine to close it out is, is the, is the street light. I like not having a phone, not having that. Like I, remember times I'd be like, in your subdivisions or all the way down at your subdivision with my bike. And I remember that street light coming on. I'd be like, that's your guys. I gotta go home. I got a five minute ride. And I, I, I remember that religiously and I, I always joke around my kids. Of course they're right at the cul-de-sac at the end of the street. But, ⁓ but yeah, the fact I'm like the street light, everyone, everyone remembered that we didn't have phones or some, some times like my parents would call and all of a sudden Terry would pop out and be like, your mom called. gotta go home. Yeah. All right. You know, it'd be like, okay. See, that's like what's missing now is like there was more of a network. Like everybody knew like, you know, how to get ahold of the do it men or, you know, moms talk to each other more. I feel like, and it's funny. The last time we got together for this, I dropped Brody off at my mom's house. They still live nearby here and we all grew up on the same road. So I was pointing out to be like, well, there's Doug street now, but he used to live over here on this street and Mike lived over that street. Brian was down there a little bit. Like you've known each other that long. Like, yeah, we used to ride bikes to each other's houses. He's like, what? Your mom would let you, Grammy let you ride your bike. Yeah. And further. Yeah. ⁓ man. all over the place. I didn't know where we rode our bikes. They'd just be gone all day. Like the outside play man, like just being outside and figuring it out. That's doing stuff, being connected out there, building forts, like just being in the middle of the woods, doing stupid shit. Yeah. That's how we learned so much through that. Yeah. And now you just don't see it outside. Like you don't see kids playing outside, doing that kind of stuff. And maybe it's different in different areas and that is happening. But man, I, I wish and my kids are still young. So, you know, maybe we'll get to that point, but like just Go out and I'll see you at some point. Like go explore, have some fun. Yeah. That's, I think that's missing a lot in today's world. Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll try to get the kids out. Like they'll go up the street up top or go down here and, and uh, yeah, it's like, go, go have fun. And, uh, they've been pushing in and pushing it a little bit more, which is, which is cool. But yeah, I agree. I mean, there are a few kids, a few of the older kids that are out. but all their kids, their age, like never out, which is just crazy. you know, but that's just the, I thought it was a cool little segment because I mean, as we get older times change and uh, I, I love that we mentioned that cause that was what I picked out before, but you know, just a little fun segment. And for you out there thinking, you know, if you're in the, in your thirties or in your forties or fifties, like just think of back. of how different your kids are growing up right now and how much has changed. Uh, especially for us millennials that we've kind of lived both sides of the coin, uh, both without any streaming or internet or anything like that to now having it. Um, it drives me bonkers, man. It drives me bonkers. So, um, but yeah, no, no, should keep the major, keep that same going here for the year. That'd be a good one. I love it. You're 40 for all of us. So you're 40. You're good. Good idea, Johnny. Good idea. like it. So, ⁓ yeah, for, for those of you out here out there, hopefully you, ⁓ you enjoyed that, ⁓ the segment and the show today. And I think, you know, at the end of the day, when we talk about this, you know, the, the, the quiet things that no one ever, ⁓ any dad ever, ever says, you know, just be mindful of, of communicating, ⁓ being out there and talking, you know, it's a big focus of us on the show. We're doing it every day and You know, just reach out to your, friends, your family, you know, your parents, if they're still alive, all those things and just talk. So, ⁓ and as always, if you like this, you know, drop a comment below on just, you know, what you kind of keep quiet. And we'd love to, ⁓ talk about it with you. 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