Gillian Griffin: Hi, I'm Gee. Marissa Castillo: And I'm Mimi. Gillian Griffin: And this is Love Island Tea Time. You kill me. boy. I really wish she would have yelled at that man. I know she's trying not to because she feels feelings, but I wish she would have yelled at that man. Marissa Castillo: Yeah, I know. I mean, we can unpack it, but first Gillian Griffin: Lola and Fitzy. Marissa Castillo: Lola and Fitz, you know, I know people are getting or I know people I know what is happening to me. I know people were giving Lola and Fitzy a lot of shit for being a scam ship. Lola got a lot of heat as well. However, however Gillian Griffin: I don't know, I think you might be stroking out just a little bit. They're still giving them shit. Marissa Castillo: I think if it was giving scam ship, they would have fought for their position and not have said, We found what we came here for. We're more than happy to go home. Gillian Griffin: I thought so too. I immediately boo burst into tears, but then I was reading Twitter and everyone was like, Lola put him in a situation where he'd look like a dick if he said no. He didn't really want to go. He only go went because he knew that if he said no, that he'd look bad. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Marissa Castillo: Mm. don't really feel that way. I think Fitsi is genuinely a kind person and would have gone. Gillian Griffin: I know. I I agree. Marissa Castillo: Just to me, it just and then I was fine, you know, I I didn't burst into tears about the whole Lola and Fitz thing and I didn't burst into tears about them leaving. What I did burst into tears about was seeing Lorenzo cry and talk about Fitz being his rock in the villa and like a brother and then him being like and I meant every word. Gillian Griffin: Aww well yeah I mean it was it was like the whole situation. It was knowing that they like offered and it was the fact that Lorenzo was so emotional about it and that and it was Ellie crying into Tommy's bicep. It was fuck. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. You mean the asmin? Maybe maybe it's a common thing because you and I have both done that now. We've called her Ellie. And I mean Gillian Griffin: Babe, I'm so sorry. She's never gonna come on our podcast. Do you know what it is, Yasmin? It's that it happens so many times. But now my god I deserve a pie in the face. Anyway, moving on. Marissa Castillo: I was gonna say we would both get pied for that. Gillian Griffin: Terrible. but yeah, as soon as they were out the door, there was a lot of Ellie, and I do mean Ellie, talking to Yasmin and the girls and Simba about what was going on with Finlay and that she's like really at the her wit's end. And I know I've seen my gosh, frog in my throat. Do I sound sexy now? Marissa Castillo: Terrible. Gillian Griffin: but I know I've seen people like repeating like it's not that big of a deal that he's exploring. It's a big deal that he won't talk to her or go up to her or like address comforting her like at all. The following day he doesn't talk to her at all. That night in bed, they are sleeping with their backs to each other. It's like, come on, dude. Come on. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. I know, I know. I really enjoyed the moment where Simba was comforting Ellie. It was sweet. I was like, okay, he does have a heart. That's great to see. Gillian Griffin: Apparently he also has nightmares. Marissa Castillo: When did he say that? Gillian Griffin: No, there's a clip. There's a clip of of him from I guess Unseen Bits where he's he wakes up in the middle of the night, he just goes, And everyone in the entire bedroom was like Like what the fuck? And apparently it was the same night he gave the speech about Angie. Marissa Castillo: That's not good timing. Gillian Griffin: No, so it's very interesting. But continue, sorry, I just needed you to know that. Marissa Castillo: No, I'm you know, here's my thing. I'm gonna give Finlay shit for exploring because he slept with Ellie. If you didn't sleep with her, I'd be more lax. But you are literally intimate and for them, a kiss is not like a handshake. All the girls have said a kiss means something in the villa. So if a kiss means something, then what do you think having sex means? You know what I mean? Gillian Griffin: someone did point out that his switch up specifically right after they slipped together is scary. Marissa Castillo: It is, that's what I'm saying. It's horrible timing. The fact that you aren't communicating with her at all is very telling. And the fact that he had an entire twenty-four hours to speak to her and he didn't until it was time for a robbery. And then he was like, Can I pull you? And this was the only episode that I actually noticed. Gillian Griffin: Robbery? Marissa Castillo: Pulled a robbery, you know, they they it's I mean, the bombshells pulled a robbery. Gillian Griffin: Okay, okay. my god, I was like what robbery? Marissa Castillo: Jesus Christ, wake up. No, I lost my train of thought. I will kill you. Gillian Griffin: I'm sorry. I was so distraught by the idea of a robbery in the villa, but I guess it happens all the time now that you've pointed it out. Marissa Castillo: Why would anyone actually rob the villa, please? Gillian Griffin: I don't know. But but yeah, she w he tried to walk up to her and she said, You've had all fucking day to do that. Marissa Castillo: You just reminded me of what I was gonna say. This is the only episode that I actually noticed the music in the background because it felt so fucking intense. Where he was like, Can I pull you? And then it was just perfectly timed where she like whipped around and was like, You had all fucking day to do it. And then she just walks away. And I'm like, my gosh, this is really bad. Gillian Griffin: Of course. It's like, and then give her her some listen, producers, send Ellie home with that chair. Her and that chair have a trauma bond. That chair in the dressing room is just where she goes. Nobody else does it like that. I think Priya was in there in that chair once when she was upset. But Ellie goes to that exact chair every time and sobs her face off. Literally. Marissa Castillo: Truly. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: And maybe someone can talk to Ellie about just slightly less. Cause once again, tear tracks both nights. There's a lot of layers. Or let's get her some Urban Decay setting spray or something so that she doesn't get the tear tracks like babe. But yeah, and then she just went off. And and then honestly, Alicia, I'm figuring you out, but right now, I don't know, babe. Marissa Castillo: Right. Gillian Griffin: Cause Kevin clocked her tea. She said, I'm such a girls girl. And he went, Is she fuck? Marissa Castillo: Yes. Listen, Jasmine must be growing on Kavan, because I think in past weeks I don't think he would have said anything like that. However, I will stand by this always. And you sh guys should already know by now that when you're a self proclaimed girls girl, you are not really a girls girl. And she said it not once this episode, but twice. Gillian Griffin: least. And it's just like the fact that she I know Ellie said like I can't talk and then she left the room. I understand why, but when Ellie called out it's not you and everyone's calling out, like it's not like it really isn't you. Just like, I don't know. I don't know. Just maybe it was just the way that she left and that when Ellie was literally shouting out to her, explaining Like if Ellie had just said, I'm sorry, can't, and then hadn't said anything, but was the fact that Ellie kept going, like, look, it's not you, da-da-da-da-da-da like she went. Like it's all on him. Just very fascinating that she just kind of stormed off Alicia and that like, you know, maybe if you're having to say you're a girl's girl in the first place while you're doing something that you don't even think is Something that a girls' girl should do. And then also if you're saying it again, like basically sobbing, but I'm such a girls girl. Like maybe you know that the thing you did was not cool or like the situation's not cool. I'm just saying maybe you know. Maybe you know. Marissa Castillo: What I'm saying is what a girls girl would do is pick Aiden and not fuck shit up. Gillian Griffin: I mean Marissa Castillo: But I d my thing is like her her big argument was I have to think about what's gonna work on the outside. There's two weeks left. Not even. Like, do you think you're gonna form this life changing connection in that time and you're gonna you guys are gonna leave out of here hand in hand, boyfriend, girlfriend? Yeah. just saying if you were realistic about things. Gillian Griffin: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I definitely agree. God Marissa Castillo: And I fear the worst for the next episode. Gillian Griffin: Yeah, that first that not first look, the preview, the tomorrow night. The tomorrow night have my jaw on the floor because I'm really scared that Ellie will pack her suitcase, that she will be Regina George screaming, running around the dressing room, throwing her items into her suitcase, and getting ready to go. And I think Marissa Castillo: Tomorrow night. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: I forget if it was Angelista or Jasmine or Jasmine who said it, because there's so many girls around her chatting with her about the situation. But they were it was Jasmine. It was Jasmine. She's like, men are so like Just the way they think is crazy because it can be like, ooh, shiny, shiny, shiny. I need to be involved with the shiny thing. Where she was saying that like girls all the time can be in a relationship and go, that is a good looking man. If I was single, be all over that. But I'm not. So it's it's not like that. It's just like you can appreciate someone being good looking without having to go to them. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think with men, or at least this that specific generation of men, it feels some sort of weird conquest. It just it gives like it's weird that you need to that you quote unquote owe it to yourself constantly to explore. But how about what you owe to the person that you slept with? Gillian Griffin: Who probably slept with you, not just for funsies, especially after you saw a video of her crying about how much she's in love with you. Maybe she didn't use the word love, but crying about how meaningful her relationship with is to you. Maybe, maybe keep it in your pants with that person. Or maybe don't fuck around after you fucked around. Like it's just kind of mind blowing. It really is. We all were like, this is so cute, the two of them. And now we're just proven so wrong. And she said this gaff just keeps humbling me. And I'm like, Ellie. Marissa Castillo: It is is it's mind blowing. I know. feel so bad and I do I don't want her to leave. I hope she this is one of those instances where she says she's gonna do something and then doesn't. And I think Lorenzo w did have really good intentions when he was trying to pose this question of like, but don't you think this is who he really is? If it's so easy for him to do it here, what's it gonna be like in the real world? Gillian Griffin: Yeah. Someone had tweeted like, Lorenzo really said when they show you who they are, believe them. Marissa Castillo: I say it. I die on that hill every time. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. And Gillian Griffin: And Lorenzo was spitting bars today. Or last night. Whatever. When this happened, he was spitting bars. The way he handled Finley, the way he spoke to Ellie, I was like, okay, why are you so good at giving advice? But you're so bad at relationships. Marissa Castillo: He's a sentimental man. I don't know. I think he's good at giving advice and not taking his own. It's one of those things. Gillian Griffin: What a conundrum. What a conundrum. Marissa Castillo: Yeah. But you know who's not a what were you gonna say? Who's not a conundrum? Is it Ethan? Gillian Griffin: man. How about Who Who Who's not a conundrum? Samaraj? Marissa Castillo: Ha ha ha. Gillian Griffin: I just wanted to touch on really quickly and then move on to the Priya Ethan Aiden thing. I don't know. Summers really got me with how he was talking in bed to Mika about them being in the bottom. He said, It's probably me. She went, baby, you haven't done enough to be hated. And then he went, I don't care if it means protecting you. I'll take being hated all the time. And I was like, Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: What? Like that's the conversation I want to hear about being in the bottom is it's probably my fault. I don't care. People can hate me if just as long as you feel okay, like just let it be me, whatever. And that they were just so like guess we were in the bottom about it instead of like ranting and raving like some people on USA did last week, but you know. Marissa Castillo: No. Sammy Rush. Right. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: But yeah, is Ethan the Marissa Castillo: Yeah. No, I did think it was cute. Gillian Griffin: So cute. do you think that Ethan is the Carl of UK? Marissa Castillo: Yes, a thousand percent. Thousand percent. What? just a sweet moment. Priya's just like, I need to be by myself. I need to chill. And this man brings her two different flavors of poppy and sunscreen. And he's like, I don't want to disturb you, but I just thought you'd like some sunscreen and something to drink. So thoughtful. Gillian Griffin: Mm-hmm. So thoughtful and literally just took it so on the chin that she was like, Yes, I do not want to talk and I'm sick of getting to know people. And he went, Mm-hmm. Bye. He's like, You do your thing. And I love that he didn't take it personally because I feel like some bombshells would have come back down downstairs and ranted to the boys about how they were annoyed that she said she was sick of getting to know people. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: And instead he kind of took it on the chin and didn't take it personally. Hello four agreements. And also accepted that she was in that moment quite upset. So her saying something when she's quite upset isn't necessarily the statement he should fully measure her by for her interest in him. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. I agree. Gillian Griffin: And I like that about him. Meanwhile, somebody is still the biggest fucking clown in that villa. Pardon my French. But Aiden, what are you doing? He doesn't even know. He sh was like, I don't think I understand your brain. And I was literally in the middle of writing, where is it? No one knows how his brain works. I was writing that. No one knows how his brain works. And then he went, I don't know how my brain works. Marissa Castillo: He doesn't even know. And that's when you know it's bad. Gillian Griffin: He has no idea what he's doing. It's just like, bro. And then not Kevin and Jasmine having to be like, why didn't you pick Priya for anything? Marissa Castillo: But why didn't he? You know what I'm saying? Gillian Griffin: Yeah. Marissa Castillo: And you don't obviously you're not gonna pie her, but like you could have kissed her. You already had a kiss with a bombshell. Gillian Griffin: Also, maybe still make her a coffee, even if somebody already gave her a coffee. Maybe maybe chop up some fruit. Maybe put some toast in the toaster and put some butter on it. Say, I know you already had coffee. Here's some toast. Here's any gesture of affection to show that I still care about you this morning, instead of just making the bombshell coffee. I don't know, that's all I'm saying. Marissa Castillo: my god. Making the bombshell coffee. He can't, he's not, I don't think there's a romantic bone in his body. I don't know how on earth he was in a relationship for that long with someone else. And what the fuck did it look like? And if it was a version of him that was romantic and communicative and sweet and kind, then maybe that relationship broke him because it's not giving a relationship type of man. Just it gives, you know, he gives Austin powers. Gillian Griffin: my god. my god. Yeah, baby. Marissa Castillo: Ha ha Yeah. Exactly. Gillian Griffin: my god, you just broke me. Yeah, baby I've got my mojo. Marissa Castillo: Just that I c I could just hear him still being like, give me a kiss. Like Gillian Griffin: He's so infuriating. He's so infuriating. my god. my gosh, you are right. There actually isn't that much to talk about, I guess. I'm like reading through the notes. I'm like, we've kind of hit so many things and I'm like, this can't be a 20-minute long episode. What? Marissa Castillo: Truly. No, well what I will say is that Priya I don't think she's gonna give Ethan the chance he deserves. They her and Aiden Kisten made up so fast. And I wouldn't have let that slide at all. Gillian Griffin: She fell for himlet making her giggle. Marissa Castillo: It doesn't matter you could be the funniest man alive and if you didn't pick me for a damn thing in a snog merry pie, I'm gonna let you sit in the doghouse for a little bit longer and I'm not gonna be like give me a kiss then. I say you can hug me. Gillian Griffin: Yeah. Also Also didn't make her breakfast, didn't make her coffee, didn't try to do anything to make it up to her, talked loudly with the bombshell, so loudly that she could hear him up on the terrace. Marissa Castillo: Right. I just feel like she's settling at this point for Aiden, just because she feels like maybe she owes it to him to Gillian Griffin: I just remembered how hard she was crying. This poor girl. So I was like, get her out of there. Like I knew this. I knew this. And Yasmin was like, you really should try. You really should try. And I'm like, I don't know. She really sounds like she does not care. She sounds like she's tapped out. Marissa Castillo: Yeah. Well I do think if I know, and it's really sad. Speaking of Yasmin, that's it's not relevant to this topic, but the way she was sobbing because Lola was crying broke me. Just saying. Gillian Griffin: Told you! We got distracted by the fact that I said Ellie cried into Tommy's bicep. Yasmin started crying into his bicep the second they said said anything. The second Lorenzo opened his mouth, she went. Marissa Castillo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: No! Marissa Castillo: Mmm, my poor angel. But yeah, I really want Priya. I think Ethan would have been a great choice for Priya. If Aiden weren't there, I think she'd be more open to him. She did say, I do need to give it a chance. And yes, you do, because Aiden is not your man. You you you are not going to You're not gonna leave the villa with Aiden. Gillian Griffin: I don't know if Aiden's anybody's man. Please. I and also, what is wrong with these men? First of all, too many female tears tonight. Way too many. And then Aiden's going, Yeah, I talked to the bombshell, but I'm really still thinking about Priya. Are you? And then Finley's like, you know, I did all that, but now I'm wondering if I'm doing too much just to mess things up with Ellie. What? Like what it like it's giving Kafa a more all over again when they were like, my god. Marissa Castillo: Being like Well yeah. Gillian Griffin: Why did I do all of that? Maybe I'm messing things up and then it feels like they're still gonna make the wrong decision. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Finley Finley talking to Simba and being like, it's just cause I've been hanging around you too much. No. That's the you problem. Don't do that to Simba. He he turned his attitude around real quick. Gillian Griffin: Bullshit. Bullshit, man. Mm. Also, somebody pointed out it when whatever was going on, Simba still constantly talked to Angie. Even if some of his reassurance was kind of bullshit and it was like, the fuck are you coming over here trying to hug me? Going, I just really want to take her to the hideaway. Like He didn't go to the hideaway. Granted, it's because someone stopped him. Granted, he wanted to do worse than the hideaway, guaranteed. However, he still constantly went to Angie, held her hand, hugged her, talked to her throughout. He would literally go have a conversation with Mika, then walk over and have a conversation with Angie, which is what you do. You keep your person updated. Then you give them time. You know, like, and then. Marissa Castillo: Mm. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: Mixed feelings about Alicia, but then I still feel for her because she's like, Okay, but just don't waste my fucking time. Like, hello. And she was like, now I want to take ten steps back. Cause like then he has to go and have a fucking summit with all the guys because he can't stand on what he feels. And it's like, why would I wanna like, why do I want this when he like can't like needs to talk to five other people before he talks to me? she's sneezing. I know she's muted and I probably shouldn't have said anything, but it was cute. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Thank you. Gillian Griffin: But yeah, like you need to go have a summit with five of the other guys. Then you talk to Ellie first, which is fine. He should have talked to Ellie first. Honestly, he tried to talk to Ellie immediately. Maybe he was waiting to talk to Ellie before he talked to Alicia. But like I totally understand. But like don't give her so much energy that she feels confident enough to pick you. And you can say, yeah, that was a big confident thing that you did. And then just completely back off, which is like on the switch side of it. It's like, and Ellie says she's like, if he sleeps in the bed with her, I'm gone. Didn't she? Marissa Castillo: Yes, if he if she sleeps in the bed with her, I'm gone. If at s any if at some point tomorrow he doesn't dead it off with her, I'm gone. Which spoiler alert, he's not going to. And what really what really got me fucked up about him was that he told Alicia he's sleeping outside. Not for Ellie, but because he needs some time to think. When it was literally Ellie who said, you better not be sleeping in the bed with her. Gillian Griffin: Yeah. Yeah. It's giving coward. He's full of so much shit. I can't deal with it. I can't. Like I literally wrote Get Fucked so many times or like you're the worst or like what is this? Cause also like he she asks, Is are you getting to know her romantically? And he said, I just want to get her to know her like I know get to know anybody. And I'm like, You're up on the Marissa Castillo: He's full of shit. Gillian Griffin: Terrace talking about what it was like licking her neck and all of your turn-ons, etc. I don't really think that that's how you just get to know anybody. This is dark, man. This is dark. I hate this. I hate this so much. Marissa Castillo: I know these are very dark times. Gillian Griffin: It was dark times for dating faux show. I probably shouldn't have said it like that. You help who? Marissa Castillo: I hope Priya and Ethan have a good time. Rhea and Ethan, have a good time. Gillian Griffin: I hope so too. I hope that Priya and Ethan can like get to know each other. I hope she gives them the time of day. But also if she's tapped out, I understand. But also, and then also if she says she wants to go, let her, let her, she's literally been in a couple or sorry, she's this is rubbed off of me from Love Island USA. I hate when they say that. She's literally been coupled up with most of the guys there. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: And tried something with basically every guy who's left. It's like, babe, just if you're not feeling it, if you're tired, just go home and get your self-esteem back up. I'm sure your DMs are flooded. Flooded with hotties. You need to go back home, talk to your therapist for a while, and then vibe. Like I just don't feel an And that's why it's like I hate the idea of Ellie self self-evicting. But I'd be proud of her for like protecting herself because again, we saw other people on other seasons who have not done it. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: And it's it's a true sign of like looking out for yourself. And I still admire Lola for bringing it up and being like, We we're getting married next week, right? We should just leave. Marissa Castillo: Exactly. That's the way to do it. It's just like why be here when I've already come and found who it is or who I've found my person. That's the point of the show. It's called Love Island. They found love in a hopeless place. Period. Gillian Griffin: like really found it. Like not like they're growing together so strong. Cause even like they said, Mika and Samraj aren't in love yet. They were in love. He was gonna ask her to be his girlfriend any second. Although that one fight was questionable also. I saw a clip of them on Unseen Bits. Marissa Castillo: Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: Where he's eating potato chips and he goes to her, If you could do anything as a job, what anything you wanted Reach for the s reach for the stars, he said. What would you want to do? And she said, I want to be a pathologist. And he went, What is that? And she said with the straightest face, not even making eye talk that look at she said, Cut open dead people and find out what happened to them. And he froze with a potato chip to his mouth, like Marissa Castillo: Get it out. Gillian Griffin: And side eyed her soul. He was like Marissa Castillo: Some of his reactions to her, I'm like mm. Gillian Griffin: I need to find that clip for you because it sent me. I was laying in bed last night, like, my god. And he literally looks like he was questioning whether or not he should eat after hearing that. my god. Which fair enough. She's a a police officer. Makes sense that maybe that would be in her chosen career path situation, but it's just wild to hear that. But she still came on Love Island. Marissa Castillo: Well yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Gillian Griffin: 'Cause usually you think that everyone who comes on Love Island wants to be like a musician or an actress or an influencer model, whatever, have a makeup line and she went, I wanna cut open dead people and see what happened to them. I was like, Ugh, okay, girl, go off I guess. Marissa Castillo: No, I think she has like one of the most adult jobs I've heard of ever on the show. Gillian Griffin: Besides nurse, Angie's a nurse, also by the way. Marissa Castillo: Or police officer. Gillian Griffin: Angie apparently donated one of her kidneys. Actually an angel. Marissa Castillo: my gosh. I love her so much. I can't even actually. I did Gillian Griffin: Can you even? I know. I really hope this crusty man does right by her. I really do. I hope that this is this that he really means it and that he's not gonna fuck her over. Although Marl on After Sun got asked, Do you think Angie and Semmo will work in the World War? And she went respectfully, No, I don't think so. Marissa Castillo: Only time will tell. Gillian Griffin: Only time will tell Marissa Castillo: I wanted to I wanted to shout out Yulia just for a quick second. Gillian Griffin: sure. Marissa Castillo: And just how unbiased she sounded throughout the whole process of trying to pick a couple. 'Cause I think she's sounded pretty unbiased to me. Gillian Griffin: But did she sound unbiased because her biggest threat had offered to go home already? Marissa Castillo: Well she was unbiased and then Yeah, but then she was also she also acknowledged the fact that yeah, but this I have also had a lot of drama with this couple. So it was that to me it was like you acknowledge the fact that it could have been shady if you picked them and they hadn't volunteered. And it was the obvious choice. Gillian Griffin: I don't know. I don't think I don't know, I think it was pretty convenient for her. But whichever, you know, she was still being cute during the episode. Marissa Castillo: Yeah, and and she just still apologized and was like, I'm so sorry And everyone was like, No, it was literally the only decision that was the right choice. And then she said boys lack brain cells, which they do. Gillian Griffin: And I think that's the tea. thanks again to everyone who's been listening. We so appreciate you. We love hearing from you. we love seeing your comments and reviews and getting your DMs. So if you would like to reach out to us. Marissa Castillo: That's yeah, that's the T. Gillian Griffin: you know, you can leave reviews on Apple, you can leave comments on Spotify, but otherwise, as far as social media goes, where can you find us, Mimi? Marissa Castillo: You can find us on Instagram or TikTok at Love Island Time. And if you want to follow us on X, aka Twitter, you can find us at capital L I T Time Pod. Gillian Griffin: Cute. But yeah, we we've been having fun. And I know this was a shorter one, but it was so finly and Ellie focused again. We'll see when we ever see anybody else. But yeah, hopefully Alicia settles and we can start getting into some more other drama again. But yeah. Thanks for listening, and you'll hear from us tomorrow. But until then Marissa Castillo: Yeah. Bye.