Dalton Audio: Welcome back to the RDTFM podcast. We've got another stellar show on the docket for you tonight. We're getting into life and golf and kind of a twist on our approach segment tonight where Chris is gonna introduce a productivity pause for us, see what that means, what that's about. But before we get into any of that, as we always do, let's pop that top, get into these beers, see what we're drinking tonight. Chad, what are you working with over there?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Welcome back to the RDTFM podcast. We've got another stellar show on the docket for you tonight. We're getting into life and golf and kind of a twist on our approach segment tonight where Chris is gonna introduce a productivity pause for us, see what that means, what that's about. But before we get into any of that, as we always do, let's pop that top, get into these beers, see what we're drinking tonight. Chad, what are you working with over there?

Chad Audio: Okay. Tonight I have something from Friction Beer Company. It's in Shawnee, Kansas. I know in a a suburb of Kansas City. not far from from where I work, but I've still never had had this before. This is called Southern yeah, Southern Hospitality, six point seven percent alcohol. This is a hazy IPA with

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Okay. Tonight I have something from Friction Beer Company. It's in Shawnee, Kansas. I know in a a suburb of Kansas City. not far from from where I work, but I've still never had had this before. This is called Southern yeah, Southern Hospitality, six point seven percent alcohol. This is a hazy IPA with

Chad Audio: Dol Dolchita and Citra hops. Again, I'm not a actual beer guy. I just play one on a podcast. it's it's got a it's got what what part of what I liked when I got it, it's got a little sticker that says social lubricants on it. So I think that's that's great for people like me who are unable to talk without the assistance of alcohol. But we'll see we'll see what what this is what this is all about here.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Dol Dolchita and Citra hops. Again, I'm not a actual beer guy. I just play one on a podcast. it's it's got a it's got what what part of what I liked when I got it, it's got a little sticker that says social lubricants on it. So I think that's that's great for people like me who are unable to talk without the assistance of alcohol. But we'll see we'll see what what this is what this is all about here.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm.

Chad Audio: Chris, how about you? man.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Chris, how about you? man.

Dalton Audio: Ha ha ha.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I have got one of my local favorites, a hop doctor from Shellring Elworths in Port Royal, South Carolina, which is a really good spot if you're in the area, great spot to hang out. It's got Citra, El Dorado and Amarillo hops, no clue what that means, but sounds fancy. And it is 6.5 % out.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I have got one of my local favorites, a hop doctor from Shellring Alex in Port Royal, South Carolina. which is a really good spot if you're ever ever in the area. Great spot to hang out. it's got citra, El Dorado, and Amarillo hops. No clue what that means, but sounds fancy. And it is six point five percent out.

Dalton Audio: Nice. I've got over here I've got a double red from Ritual Brewing out of Redlands, California. it is I think eight six percent, so it's a double. and it's a red, but I think they finished it off with some West Coast hops. so I'm hoping hoping it leans a little bit towards an IPA. we'll see how that how that unfolds, but

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Nice. I've got over here I've got a double red from Ritual Brewing out of Redlands, California. it is I think eight six percent, so it's a double. and it's a red, but I think they finished it off with some West Coast hops. so I'm hoping hoping it leans a little bit towards an IPA. we'll see how that how that unfolds. But got

Chad Audio: Got a nice day day of the dead face on it. I love big I'm a big I'm a big fan of Day of the Dead. That's cool. Easily, easily the coolest can we've had. We should we should have art we should have artwork ratings too on our can.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: a nice day day of the dead face on it. I love it. Yeah, yeah. I'm a big I'm a big Day of the Dead. That's pretty pretty cool looking.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah. Pretty pretty cool looking. Pretty cool looking can.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Pretty cool. Easily, easily the coolest can we've had. Right? We should have artwork ratings too on our can.

Dalton Audio: Right? Pretty That's

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, for sure.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: That's right. Yeah. Pretty good looking can. Yeah. Yeah. So not that the not that the listeners can see it. On videos can see this. For description, white can, kind of red accents to it, big red school on there, Dia de los Muertos looking vibe. But Dude, I love a red beer. So I'm kind of curious to see what what this comes out of.

Dalton Audio: right, yeah. Pretty good looking can. Yeah, yeah. So can see it. Yeah, for for for for description, white can, kinda red accents to it, big red school on there, Dia de los Muertos looking vibe, but yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah.

Chad Audio: Not that the not that the listeners on videos can see this, but

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Dude, I love a red beer. So I'm kind of curious to see what this comes out at.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, I'm I'm definitely an IPA guy. Like that's for sure choice number one. but I'm I I reds are just easy drinking and when they're done right, they're just kind of clean and got a little something to without being in your face about it. but still have that that body to to hold up to it. So yeah, I've got I've got some high expectations.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, I'm I'm definitely an IPA guy. Like that's for sure choice number one. but I'm I I reds are just easy drinking and when they're done right, they're just kind of clean and got a little something to them without being in your face about it. but still have that that body to to hold up to it. So yeah, I've got That's much of a thing here. I even know. I don't even

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm.

Chad Audio: No that I don't know that's much of a thing here. I don't even I don't

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: know what you're talking about. I don't know if we have a lot of that stuff. A red beer to me, 'cause I'm I'm a hillbilly from Kansas is like a

Chad Audio: even know what you're talking about. I don't know if we have a lot of that stuff. A red beer to me, 'cause I'm I'm a hillbilly from Kansas is like a bushlight with tomato juice in it. That's what we call red beer. So Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: bushlight with tomato juice in it. That's what we call red beer. So yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: What?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: You've never had a red?

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: You've never had a red?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I don't think well that will like Killians, does that count? Is that a red? That's an Irish red. That's yeah. Yeah, I think that does count.

Chad Audio: I don't think well that will like Killians, does that count? Is that a red? That's an Irish red.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: think that's, yeah, yeah, I think that does count.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Okay. Well I like that. So I guess I'm on board. This this this definitely has undertones of of an IPA kind of coming through it a little bit. So so far so good. We'll see where where it ends up at the end of the show. let's kind of pivot over to our

Chad Audio: Okay. Well I like that. So I guess I'm on board.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, this this this definitely has undertones of of an IPA kind of coming through it a little bit. So so far so good. We'll see what where it ends up at the end of the show. let's kind of pivot over to our

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Love that.

Chad Audio: Interesting.

Dalton Audio: our life updates, game updates, getting into the scorecard segment for us. Chris, what been like for you lately? What have you been playing? Shooting? Good, bad, ugly?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Our life updates, game updates, getting into the scorecard segment for us. Chris, what been like for you lately? What have you been playing? Shooting, good, bad, ugly? Played zero golf. I was on my productive pause, which I guess we'll talk about here in a minute. But I did take that driver that I won last week and got fit on on Thursday morning last week. And so I got the shaft dialed in in an X flex, which I

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: played zero golf, because I was on my productive pause, which I guess we'll talk about here in a minute. But I did take that driver that I won last week and got fit on, Thursday morning last week. And so I got the shaft dialed in, in an X-Flex, which I

Dalton Audio: Okay. Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: was not expecting, but basically I, you know, I walked up to our bro and I said, Hey, you know, I'm look, what I'm looking for is something that does not go left. And so it was like,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Was not expecting, but basically I you know, I walked up to our bro and said, Hey, you know, I'm look what I'm looking for is something that does not go left. And so he was like

Dalton Audio: Just not le anything but left.

Chad Audio: Do you have one of those?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: not left, anything but left.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: He was like, he was like, got you. and so X-Flex, which is stronger than what I've played in 20 years or something like that. then he was like,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: He was like, I got you. and so X Flex, which is stronger than what I've played in twenty years or something like that. You know what the grain

Dalton Audio: Do you know what the grain on

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: on that is? What the number was? No,

Dalton Audio: that is? What the number was?

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: No, I don't. there, there was a day

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I don't. there there was a day.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: when I would have been able to rattle that off and guess what? That day has long passed. sure. Sure. And today. but then the other thing that he did too, was he took a 10 and a half and he moved it to, I think he said nine seven five or something like that loft, which apparently opens the face a little bit. Didn't know about that. yeah, but, see how that goes. So theoretically I'm supposed to have this thing by end of the month.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: When I would have been able to rattle that off. And guess what? That that day has long passed. Sure, sure ain't today. but then the other thing that he did too was he took a ten and a half and he moved it to I think he said nine seven five or something like that, oft, which apparently opens the face a little bit. Didn't know about that. Yeah. But we'll see how that goes. So theoretically I'm supposed to have this thing by end of the month,

Dalton Audio: Okay. Okay.

Chad Audio: It's not today.

Dalton Audio: Mm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: which is just in time for

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: which is just in time for the club championship, which I just signed up for, which I have not played in in years. So we'll see how much I can embarrass myself there.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: the club championship, which I just signed up for, which I have not played in in years. So we'll see how much I can boy embarrass

Dalton Audio: É boy.

Chad Audio: You have not played in the you have not played in the club championship? Why?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: myself there. In

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: in years. It's a combination of

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: years. as a good golfer,

Chad Audio: As a good golfer, that's that's interesting to me.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: that's that's interesting to me. Well, we've been playing like garbage for a while. So that's part of it. And then the other part of it is it's always around like October fifteenth. And it and historically it's been multiple weekends, which is tough. And then we've got kids doing

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Well, we've been playing like garbage for a while. So that's part of it. And then the other part of it is it's always around like October 15th and it, and historically it's been multiple weekends, which is tough. And then we've got kids doing

Chad Audio: That's good.

Dalton Audio: Mm. Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: fall ball, which is tough. And then half of those times I've been traveling. Like I've been traveling middle of October pretty much every year for five years at this point. So it just, it just hasn't worked out. So it's been a combination of things. this year.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: fall ball which is tough and then half of those times I've been traveling like I've been traveling middle of October pretty much every year for five years at this point. So it just it just hasn't worked out. So it's been a combination of things. Is that a gross

Dalton Audio: Is that a a gross or a net or one of each? Trophy for both?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: or a net or one of each trophy for both? I don't know about the net. I'm not into the net game. it's it's it's it's gross or die. It's gross, yeah. Like go go out there and play hard.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I don't know about the net. I'm not into the net game. It's, it's, it's, it's gross. Yeah. Like go, go out there and play hard.

Chad Audio: man.

Dalton Audio: It's gross or die. Ha ha.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: see what happens.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: See what happens.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: What about you Chad? What's going on with your game?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: What about you, Chad? What what's going on with your game? so I've I've only played like one actual round and it it was really, really extraordinarily bad. I've t I've mentioned last time that since I'm doing lessons, there's there's some pretty significant swing changes he's making. And as you do that, like I'm not dumb. I know those are gonna take a while and they're gonna be super awkward and you can expect poor results in the meantime.

Chad Audio: so I've I've only played like one actual round and it it was really, really extraordinarily bad. I've t I've mentioned last time that since I'm doing lessons, there's there's some pretty significant swing changes he's making and as you do that, like I'm not dumb. I know those are gonna take a while and they're gonna be super awkward and you can expect poor results in the meantime. And I had them, a whole round of

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I had a whole round of

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

Chad Audio: on it's either Saturday or Sunday. I don't know. It was it was so bad I stopped scoring on like hole fourteen or something like that. I was like, Good Christ, what is happening here? So yeah, pretty I contemplated life, tried selling my clubs to a kid in the parking lot, but he wouldn't couldn't get any takers. But

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: on it's either Saturday or Sunday, I don't know. It was it was so bad I stopped scoring on like hole fourteen or something like that. I was like, Good Christ, what is happening here? So yeah, pretty I contemplated life, tried to sell my clubs to a kid in the parking lot, but he wouldn't couldn't get any takers, but

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm.

Dalton Audio: Just done. Yeah.

Chad Audio: no, it was it was pretty bad. So what I what I did do though, I think I've done like three three range sessions and

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: No, it was it was pretty bad. So what I what I did do though, I think I've done like three three range sessions and stuff like that. Just trying to work on the on the drills, which is really probably what I mean I probably should have like a three to one ratio right now of range versus rounds. considering how much what I have to work on. So so yeah, I didn't didn't didn't play much.

Chad Audio: stuff like that or just trying to work on the on the drills, which is really probably what I mean, I probably should have like a three to one ratio right now of range versus rounds. considering how my what I have to work on. So so yeah, I didn't didn't didn't play much. but but but but of putting a little bit of time at the range, which is

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: But but but but of putting a little bit of time at the range, which is a little more productive now that I've I've had some direction and tips on what to do and and what I'm what I'm actually trying to do there instead of just beating balls for an hour and stuff like that. So so that's like how many lessons in are you? W just one. So I d he he went out of town and but but I think the stuff that

Chad Audio: a little more productive now that I've I've had some direction and tips on what to do and and what I'm what I'm actually trying to do there instead of just beating balls for an hour and stuff like that. So so that's kind of w just one. So I he he went out of town and but but I think the stuff that

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: So like how many lessons in are you?

Chad Audio: I mean I've basically just done the drills that he gave me in that one lesson and just

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I mean, I've basically just done the drills that he gave me in that one lesson and just put it on repeat because I still don't have it down. It's it's the like what I'm working on is the out outside to end swing path. So it's placing a training eight, so basically a range bucket, you know, just slightly inside and behind the ball. And if you hit the bucket, your swing path is wrong. I mean, it's it's really not hard to figure out, and I can't effing figure.

Chad Audio: put it on repeat because I still don't have it down. It's it's the like what I'm working on is the out outside to end swing path. So it's placing a training eight. So basically a range bucket, you know, just slightly inside and behind the ball. And if you hit the bucket, your swing path is wrong. I mean it's it's really not hard to figure out and I can't effing figure out.

Dalton Audio: Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: out. Like it's

Chad Audio: I it's

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: it goes well for a while and then not. So so I think I think so still just the one, but I've obviously got a long way to go just on the the you know the short list of things we talked about there. The other stuff, you know, I mentioned he changed a ton about setup, grip and and all that kind of stuff. That's actually starting to feel less awkward. It's still a little bit okay.

Chad Audio: It goes well for a while and then nah. So so I think I think so still just the one, but I've obviously got a long way to go just on the the you know, the short list of things we talked about there. The other stuff, you know, I mean he mentioned he changed a ton about setup, grip and and all that kind of stuff. That's actually starting to feel less awkward. It's still a little bit

Dalton Audio: Okay.

Chad Audio: awkward in different parts of the swing, but I mean that's I've had

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: awkward in different parts of the swing, but I mean that's I've had probably three hundred three hundred reps now of on the range just just working on things. So it's kinda it's kinda getting grooved a little bit. It's still gonna take a really, really long time. I mean I'm nowhere close to to getting that to getting that corrected. But at least at least we're we're we're probably starting to spend more time in the right direction on things that that I should be spending time and not just, you know

Chad Audio: probably three hundred, three hundred reps now of on the range, just just working on things. So it's kind of it's kinda getting grooved a little bit. It's still gonna take a really, really long time. I mean, I'm nowhere close to to getting that to getting that corrected. But at least at least we're we're we're probably starting to spend more time in the right direction on things that that I should be spending time and not just, you know, trying to lower my handicap by, you know

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: trying to lower my handicap. So so what was the

Dalton Audio: Ha ha ha.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: So what was the initial problem? Just too far from the inside and then what was your miss?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: what was the initial problem? Just too far from the inside and then what was your miss? Miss was so it was like a like a sweet cocktail of of bad swing flaws. So I would go an out to end swing path my was way too steep on my you know my

Chad Audio: Miss was so it was like a like a sweet cocktail of of bad swing flaws. So I would go an out to end swing path. my it was way too steep on my you know, my transition to swing at the top, which I think those are kind of those kind of go hand in hand. and then I also had, you know.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: transition the swing at the top, which I think those are kind of those kind of go hand in hand. and then I also had, you know,

Chad Audio: Right before impact, my my wrist was closing like a really fast rate. So I wasn't like steadied and coming through contact. It was like if it times up Yeah, if it's if it times up well, you could hit a lot of good shots, which you know, you guys played a scramble with me, I can contribute, but

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: right before impact, my my wrist was closing like at a really fast rate. So I wasn't like steadied and coming through contact. It was like Rolling. If it times up, yeah, if it's if it times up well, you could hit a lot of good shots, which you know, you guys played a scramble with me. I can contribute, but

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Roller.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: you don't want to rely on it. So that's kind of way way it worked out. if everything's timed up well it works and if but you know good luck with that. So

Chad Audio: you don't want to rely on it. So that's kind of way it way it worked out. if everything's timed up well, it works and if but you know, good luck with that. So so there's there's a lot those those were kind of the main the main things and then I think a lot of the setup stuff was just trying to get in a better position you know at the start to try to alleviate some of that stuff that I that I introduce

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: so there's there's a lot those those were kind of the main the main things. And then I think a lot of the setup stuff was just trying to get in a better position you know at the start to try to alleviate some of that stuff that I that I introduce

Chad Audio: while the string is ongoing so

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: while the string is ongoing. So you said you said the the swing path miss was into out or out to in?

Dalton Audio: You said you said the the swing path miss was in to out or out to in?

Chad Audio: out to end. So so yes, my miss a lot of times is is a it's a slice because when you're coming across, you know, I I you know, putting side spin on the ball. So the miss is to the right. but there will be times that when the when that wrist close happens a little bit quicker,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: out to in. So so yes, my miss should be more into out a lot of times is is a it's a slice because when you're coming across, you know, I I you know putting side spin on the ball. So the miss is to the right. but there will be times that when the when that wrist close happens a little bit quicker

Dalton Audio: It should be more into out.

Chad Audio: it's just a dead pull. So yeah. Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: It's just a dead pull. So yeah. I know that one. Yeah. Built two way miss. Yeah. Yeah.

Dalton Audio: Hm, yeah. I know that one. Yeah, right.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: You'll do a miss.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. And and I think, you know, golf is it's workable if you've got a if you've got if you can just get to one thing going wrong all the time. You can work on that one thing. Right. It's like yeah. When it's multiples, it's that things get a little more difficult. But I do think like the same flaw is causing them both.

Chad Audio: Yeah, and and I think, you know, golf is it's workable if you've got a if you've got if you can just get to one thing going wrong all the time, you can work on that one thing. When it's like when it's multiples, it's that things get a little more difficult. But I do think like the same flaw is causing them both.

Dalton Audio: Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Chad Audio: so that's that's at least somewhat reassuring that there that there is something to work on and not like you need to work on everything. But

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: So that's that's at least somewhat reassuring that there that there is something to work on and not like you need to work on everything. But yeah. So miss misses all over the place. This weekend though, my missus were like topping like twenty five tea shots in a row and stuff just like

Chad Audio: Yeah, so miss misses all over the place. This weekend though, my missus were like topping like twenty-five tea shots in a row and stuff just like crazy stuff that doesn't happen. I think it's just overthinking your swing. That's probably the other part that happens when you're doing this. It's just way too many swing thoughts going on right now. So yeah. Pretty frustrating phase, but that's all right. We'll get through it. Dalton, how about you? Everything how you're how you

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: crazy stuff that doesn't happen. I think it's just overthinking your swing. That's probably the other part that happens when you're doing this. There's just way too many swing thoughts going on right now. So yeah. Pretty frustrating phase, but that's all right. We'll get through it. Dalton, how about you? Everything how you're how you

Dalton Audio: Yeah, it's just it changing. Yeah. Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: progress in with the with the heel, healing. Yeah, still still going forward.

Chad Audio: progressing with the with the heel, healing and

Dalton Audio: Yeah, still still going forward. wouldn't say any setbacks. Yesterday I was a birthday party at the beach and I was like leaving carrying a big bag and a bunch of chairs, going up this like crazy steep hill, like trying to hoof it, you know, like walking fast, long strides.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Wouldn't say any setbacks. Yesterday I was a birthday party at the beach and I was like leaving carrying a big bag and a bunch of chairs, going up this like crazy steep hill, like trying to hoof it, you know, like walking fast, long strides. And I took a step and I was like, Ooh, little twinge, and then another one, ooh, okay, all So I like had to like shorten my stride and start doing like little steps to to get up. But I th I think it's okay. I gotta rest. It wasn't any like not a major one, just enough for me to like, Okay, yeah, still still not right, still not like back to normal. so

Dalton Audio: And I took a step and I like, ooh, little twinge, and then another one. Ooh, okay, all right. So I like had to like shorten my stride and start doing like little steps to to get up. But I th I think it's okay. I just gotta rest. It wasn't any like not a major one, just enough for me to be like, okay, yeah, still still not right, still not like back to normal. so makes me realize like not running yet, not there yet. but I did play a nine-hole full, full distance course. took my kids out, took three of my kids out.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Makes me realize like not running yet, not there yet. but I did play a nine hole full full distance course. took my kids out, took three of my kids out.

Dalton Audio: so my eight-year-old boy and my ten year old girls, we did a walking nine. So I was able to walk nine plus play. and there wasn't a single shot where I was like questioning or uneasy or

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: so my eight year old boy and my ten year old girls. We did a walking nine. So I was able to walk nine plus play. and there wasn't a single shot where I was like questioning or uneasy or

Dalton Audio: I guess unsure of it. Like I trusted every swing, which was really good, right? And I think somewhere around hole eight or nine is when I was like, man, like I'm I'm pretty tired. Like I'm kinda cooked. Like walking nine holes is no joke when you've not done anything in a long time.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I guess unsure of it. Like I trusted every swing, which was really good, right? And I think somewhere around hole eight or nine is when I was like, man, like I'm I'm pretty tired. Like I'm kinda cooked. Like walking nine holes is no joke when you've not done anything, in a long time.

Dalton Audio: and I'm with my kids, so I'm kinda like doing a little bit extra, right? Like I'm not just like kinda going doing my own thing. but dude, it was so fun.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: and I'm with my kids, so I'm kinda like doing a little bit extra, right? Like I'm not just like kinda going doing my own thing. but dude, it was golf with your

Chad Audio: Yeah. Yeah, golf golf with your golf with your golf with your kids in itself in itself is is a

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: golf with your golf with your kids in itself in itself is is a

Chad Audio: exhausting experience.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Exactly. It's a different experience. Yeah. Yeah. It's

Dalton Audio: It's a different yeah. Yeah, it's

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm.

Dalton Audio: a different thing. But man, I I tell you what, I had a blast. Like it was so fun with them. basically what we did, because they're young, eight and and ten. I would tee off and then even if I was like way to the side or something, just wherever I ended up distance wise, they would set up with a T in the middle of the fairway and just all three of them would hit from there. And then they'd kind of do like a scramble to go in. And it wasn't like

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: a different thing. But man, I I tell you what, I had a blast. Like it was so fun with them. basically what we did, because they're young, eight and and ten. I would tee off. And then even if I was like way to the side or something, just wherever I ended up distance wise, they would set up with a T in the middle of the fairway and just all three of them would hit from there. And then they'd kind of do like a scramble to go in. And it wasn't like

Dalton Audio: They had to hit from the exact same spot. I was like, just do it like a like a driving range, set up neck kind of next to each other, make a ring and just all of you hit from there and and kind of work your ball in. Same time. Yeah. I was like, just just drop it and hit. Like just go. Cause I I mean, I don't want to slow people up, right? So I'm like, how can we do this? So I'm I'm kind of playing my own ball. And then once I teed that, I'm like, okay, from here tee up and then go. Then they could go. And I didn't really have to pay attention to them too much. and it was kind of fun. It ended up that we like, man, our scoring

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: They had to hit from the exact same spot. I was like, just do it like a like a driving range, set up neck kind of next to each other, make a ring and just all of you hit from there and kind of work your ball away. Same time. Same time. Yeah. I was like, just drop it and hit. Like just go. Because I I mean, I don't want to slow people up, right? So I'm like, how can we do this? So I'm I'm kind of playing my own ball. And then once I teed that, I'm like, okay, from here, tee up and then go. Then they could go. And I didn't really have to pay attention to them too much. interesting. And it was kind of fun. It ended up that we like, man, our scoring.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: same time. Nice.

Chad Audio: nice.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Interesting.

Chad Audio: That's funny.

Dalton Audio: If they started there, we pretty much had the same score coming in. So I'm like like in my mind, I'm like, all right, we can put a little like put a little like dessert on on the line after this. Hey, if you beat me, like you're gonna get a sweet treat. If not, like you each owe me two bucks. or something like that. introduce into gambling or something. No, I'm just kidding. but put put something on it, right? You want you want a Slurpee afterwards, you want a soda or something or an ice cream, then you gotta beat me, right? Make it a little competitive, have some fun with it. But

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: If they started there, we pretty much had the same score coming in. So I'm like h like in my mind, I'm like, all right, we can put little like put a little like dessert on on the line after this. Hey, if you beat me, like you're gonna get a sweet treat. If not, like you each owe me two bucks. or something like that. Yeah. Introduce into gambling or something. Right, right. Right. But put put something on it, right? You want you want a Slurpee afterwards, you want a soda or something, or an ice cream, then you gotta beat me, right? Make it a little competitive, have some fun with it. But

Chad Audio: Yeah. Right, right, right. I love it. Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, it was great.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, it was great. I played horribly. I didn't hit one fairway. I think I had two out of nine greens in regulation. Didn't make a putt to save my life. I think I missed four or five putts within an inch. It ju it would basically like hit the corner or the the side of the cup and then like turn. Like I caught the lip and it would miss and then it'd be like three inches long. I'm like, how did that not drop? Like how is that how is that even possible? Had so many of those. So, but didn't get hurt. Made it through.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I played horribly. I didn't hit one fairway. I think I had two out of nine greens in regulation. Didn't make a putt to save my life. I think I missed four or five putts within an inch. It ju it would basically like hit the corner or the the side of the cup and then like turn. Like I caught the lip and it would miss and then it'd be like three inches long. I'm like, How did that not drop? Like how is that how is that even possible? Had so many of those. So, but didn't get hurt, made it through.

Chad Audio: Nice.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I'm looking

Dalton Audio: Looking forward, right? All all good. Only one ball out of bounds, which was a it was like a top, like you're saying, Chad. Like of all the bad shots I hit, I was like, Are you and then I hit literally hitting three off the T and I hit it exactly like I wanted to. Like if I couldn't have dropped one better than I I did. I guess I did hit one fairway, 'cause that was in the fairway. but it was hit three, right? So that doesn't technically count as a fairway hit, right? So Yeah. So Yeah, right? For real.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: forward, right? All all good. Only one ball out of bounds, which was a it was like a top, like you're saying, Chad. Like of all the bad shots I hit, I was like, Are you and then I hit literally hitting three off the T and I hit it exactly like I wanted to. Like I couldn't have dropped one better than I I did. I guess I did hit one fairway, because that was in the fairway. but it was hit three, right? So that doesn't technically count as a fairway hit, right? Right. So that second guy is always really good though. Yeah, right. For real.

Chad Audio: Yeah. Right. Right. Right.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: No. That second guy is always really good though.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

Dalton Audio: I mean, if I was playing a two man scor two ball scramble, maybe that's what I should do next time I go out. I might do a two ball scramble and see what I shoot. just to give myself a little bit of that like.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I mean, if I was playing a two man sc or two ball scramble, maybe that's what I should do next time I go out. I might do a two ball scramble and see what I shoot. just to give myself a little bit of that like that's

Chad Audio: That's what that's what that's what Chris has told me to do, just to kinda find out where your ceilings at a little bit, you know.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: what Chris has told me to do, just to kind of find out where your ceilings at a little bit. Yeah, and

Dalton Audio: Yeah, and

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: kind of give myself a little bit of confidence, maybe not as many swings, right? Like a little play a little bit quicker. I'm taking my my eight year old out. Thursday. The two of us are gonna do an eighteen in a cart.

Dalton Audio: kind of give myself a little bit of confidence, maybe not as many swings, right? Like a little play a little bit quicker. I'm taking my my eight year old out. Thursday. The two of us are gonna do an eighteen in a cart.

Chad Audio: Mm-hmm.

Dalton Audio: and I might do that. I might do and what I told him I was like, bud, you're just gonna hit every shot I hit. so he'll just set up and he'll just pick up and and drop by me and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, so pretty

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I might do that. I might do and what I told him is like, bud, you're just gonna hit every shot I hit. so he'll just set up and he'll just pick up and and drop by me and all that kind of stuff. So yeah. So pretty, pretty good, pretty pleased, no setbacks moving forward. The 18 in the cart's kind of like, hey, if I can do that, then like I'm back. I don't have to worry about anything. I think I'm I'm pretty well there. I wouldn't I don't think I'd walk an 18 normally. walking nine feels like kind of a good workout, kind of good headspace, right? Kind of clearing, a little bit intentional.

Dalton Audio: Pretty good, pretty pleased, no setbacks. Moving forward. The eighteen in the cart's kinda like, hey, if I can do that, then like I'm back. I don't have to worry about anything. I think I'm I'm pretty well there. I wouldn't I don't think I'd walk an eighteen normally. walking nine feels like kind of a good workout, kind of good head space, right? Kind of clearing, a little bit intentional. eighteen walking eighteen is too much. That's not that takes too long. I'd rather ride it. so yeah, so I I think I'm close.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Eighteen walking eighteen's just too much. That's not that takes too long. I'd rather ride it. so yeah. So I think I'm I know there's

Chad Audio: Yeah, I know that I know there's

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I know there's purists that are like if you know golf is meant to be walked and all that kind of stuff, I don't that's not really how I get down, but

Chad Audio: I know there's purists that are like if you know golf is meant to be walked and all that kind of stuff, I don't that's not really how I get down, but

Dalton Audio: Yeah. I mean if I had a caddy, yeah, I'd probably walk an eighteen c lugging that bag around eighteen holes. That's not I who knows, maybe another six months when I'm a little stronger, fitter, recovered. But right now walking nine feels good. Riding eighteen feels good.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. I mean if I had a caddy, yeah, I'd probably walk an eighteen lugging that bag around eighteen holes. That's not I mean who knows, maybe another six months when I'm a little stronger, fitter, recovered. But right now walking nine feels good. Riding eighteen feels good.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

Dalton Audio: all right. Let's let's head over to our approach. So a little bit different, instead of this advisory scenario that we're pitching today, we've got kind of a maybe a leader mentality, reset, mental health,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: All right, let's let's head over to our approach. So a little bit different instead of this advisory scenario that we're pitching today, we've got kind of a maybe a leader mentality, reset, mental health, kind of yeah, something something to approach. Something that's been on my radar for a long time. Chris said he was going on it, told us a couple of weeks ago. and so Chad and I are are more curious than anything, I think. So Chris went on this pro productivity pause.

Dalton Audio: Kind of yeah, something it's something to approach. Something that's been on my radar for a long time. Chris said he was going on it, told us a couple of weeks ago. and so Chad and I are are more curious than anything, I think. So Chris went on this pro productivity pause. productive pause, yeah. So what what was it? How'd it go? introduce it to us and give us your high level stuff.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: productive buzz.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Productive Pause. Productive pause. Yeah. So what what was it? How'd it go? introduce it to us and give us your high level stuff. Okay. So I'll kind of tell you the backstory where this came from. I'm in this networking group with a business coach. Have been for probably a year and a half, something like that at this point. And so he would tell us about he calls solo and basically he just takes back back nothing else, no tech.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay. So I'll kind of tell you the backstory where this came from. I'm in this networking group with a business coach have been for probably a year and half, something like that at this point. And so he would tell us about, he calls solo and basically just takes back back, nothing else. No tech,

Dalton Audio: Okay.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: no screens, nothing basically goes and rents an Airstream for a couple of days and that's it. Right. Journals and stuff like that. I'm like,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: No screens, nothing. Basically goes and rents an airstream for a couple of days and that's it. Right. Journals and stuff like that. And I'm like, that's interesting. not for me. And so I ended up hiring him as my business coach earlier this year. And you know, we're sitting there one day, it's probably like in May or something like that. And we were going through something. I don't remember what it even was that we were going through, but the gist of it was that there was this big long list on the whiteboard.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: That's interesting. not for me. And so I ended up hiring him as my business coach earlier this year. And, you know, we're sitting there one day, it's probably like in may or something like that. And we were going through something. I don't remember what it even was that we were going through, but the gist of it was that there was this big long list on the whiteboard and he goes, when are you gonna, when are you gonna think about this stuff? And I'm like, I don't know.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And he goes, when are you gonna when are you gonna think about this stuff? And I'm like, I don't know.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: At some point, I guess, right? It was a long list. Yeah. Right? you know, yeah. And I tend to walk a lot. I do a lot of thinking when I walk and stuff like that. I'm like, I don't know, probably when I'm not walking or whatever. And so he was like, nah, man, like you should, you should really consider doing this productive pause.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: some point, I guess, right? It was a long way. Yeah. Right. Pretty good spot. You know. Yeah. and I I tend to walk a lot. I do a lot of thinking when I walk and stuff like that. And like, I don't know, probably when I'm out walking or whatever. And so he was like, Nah, man, like you should you should really consider doing this productive pause.

Chad Audio: The toilet?

Dalton Audio: Pretty good spot.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: He was like a lot of people who I know who are like super high achievers do something like this. Essentially like two days,

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: And he was like, lot of the people who I know were like super high achievers do something like this. Essentially like two days.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: no screens, no tech, no nothing. basically just you just thinking, right? and so I tried it in June and it was a total unlock. And you know, I was I had this it was it's kind of funny. well it's funny now. I had like this big long agenda.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: No screens, no tech, no nothing. basically just use thinking. Right. and so I tried it in June and it was a total unlock. And you know, I was, I had this, it was, it's kind of funny. well, it's funny now I had like this big long agenda and I was totally stressed about it. And I'm like, well, like what, you know, what am I, how does this work and what am going to do? And what am I supposed to be thinking about? And, know,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I was totally stressed about it. And I'm like, well, like what you know, what am I, how does this work? And what am I gonna do? And what am I supposed to be thinking about? And you know,

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: All these other things. And then I was telling him like the best thing that he's probably said to me, was telling him, I'm like, you know, a little bit anxious about not having my fed. And he goes, well, maybe you need to sit with that. It was like, damn, that's brilliant. and so

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: all these other things. And then I was telling him, like, the best thing that he's probably said to me, I was telling him, I'm like, you know, I'm I'm a little bit anxious about not having my phone. And he goes, Well, maybe you need to sit with that. And it's like, damn, that's brilliant. and so

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I got on my first productive pause and it took me literally two hours to figure out how to put the thing on, not disturb. And.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I got on my first productive pause and it took me literally two hours to figure out how to put the thing on do not disturb. And I'm like, well, this is kind of pathetic. now that I've learned now that I've learned that skill, it was it was it it makes you it makes it really clear, at least for me, like how dependent we are on our phone, how dependent we are on a tech, and how like how much chaos there is just around us.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I'm like, well, this is kind of pathetic. Now that I've learned that skill, it makes it really clear, at least for me, how dependent we are on our phone, how dependent we are on a tech and how much chaos there is just around us.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And so yeah, like some of the like the biggest business problems that I've had in my firm, like I solved those on night one just

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: so some of the biggest business problems that I've had in my firm, I solved those on night one.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: wow, just randomly by just sitting there and just you know, like like problems that I'd been working on for years, like just could not figure out it's like just kind of comes to me. I'm like, all right, I'm sold, like we're we're doing this all the time now. And so I'm doing it every quarter. So I went last week, two days, same kind of deal.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: just randomly by just sitting there and just, you know, like, like problems that I had been working on for years, like just could not figure out. It's like, just kind of comes to me. like, all right, I'm sold. we're, doing this all the time now. And so I'm doing it every quarter. So I went last week, two days, same kind of deal.

Dalton Audio: Like.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: much less of an agenda, much less stressful. Like it's just like, look, we're gonna I'm gonna go somewhere. I'm gonna show up and see what happens, right? Just figure it out.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: much less of an agenda, much less stressful. Like it's just like, look, we're going to, I'm going to go somewhere. I'm going to show up and see what happens, right? Just figure it out.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: so it was really good and like similar, like, you know, solved a bunch of problems in my firm that, you know, I'd been thinking about and have some stuff that I'm gonna take back to my team, read a book, a book that also my business coach had been telling me that I should read for quite some time and never did. Didn't even plan on reading the book, just happened to have it with me, read it. It was great.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: so it was really good and like similar, like, you know, solved a bunch of problems in my firm that, you know, I've been thinking about and have some stuff I'm going to take back to my team. Read a book, a book that also my business coach had been telling me that I should read for quite some time and never did. Didn't even plan on reading the book, just happened to have it with me. Read it. was great. it's called, taking the lead by the way, by Dave Alpern. Yeah. Dave Alpern really good book.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: it's called taking the lead, by the way, by Dave Alpern. Yeah, Dave Alpern. Really good book, highly recommend, good leadership book. So basically he's the head of Joe Gibbs Racing. So race team based out of based out of Charlotte. Joe Gibbs, the football coach from the Redskins, like legend. so he runs that racing team. Sure.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: highly recommend good leadership books. basically he's the head of Joe Gibbs race. So race team based out of, based out of Charlotte Joe Gibbs, the football coach from the Redskins like legend. so he runs that racing team. Sure.

Dalton Audio: Okay. Commanders. Mm-hmm.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I'm of a certain age. I, I, know, I, and I'm an Eagles fan, so whatever, whatever they call them, I don't care. Anyway.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I'm of a certain age. I I you know I I mean and I'm an Eagles fan, so whatever. w whatever they call them, I don't care. They're like the W team. Yeah, like from the yeah, whatever.

Dalton Audio: Ha ha ha.

Chad Audio: But

Dalton Audio: Ha ha. That W team, yeah, whatever they are.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, like from the yeah, whatever.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: The Knuckleheads down the way.

Dalton Audio: The knuckleheads down the way.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. So anyway, highly recommend. And you know, I came back over the first one. I told him, like, this is great, it's amazing, love it. He actually had me do a testimonial video for the rest of his clients. Like overloom that I

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah. So anyway, highly recommend and you know, I came back over the first one. told him like, is great. It's amazing. Love it. And he actually had me do a testimonial video for the rest of his clients. Like over at loom that I,

Dalton Audio: Well, that's cool.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. So hopefully we get some more folks doing this because I think I think everybody should do it. Honestly. I actually had one client tell me because I told him last week, I'm like, hey, like I'm gonna be out of touch, like literally out of touch, whatever. He's like, Man, like I wish I could do that. You know? It's like, well, you can, you just go.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: yeah. So hopefully we get some more folks doing this. Cause I think, I think everybody should do it. Honestly. I actually had one client tell me, cause I told him last week and like, Hey, like I'm to be out of touch, like literally out of touch, whatever. He's like, man, like I wish I could do that. You know, it's like, well, you can just go.

Dalton Audio: Mm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I think that's the sentiment for most people, right? Like when you when you kind of told me in Chad we were both kind of like ears up, right? Like, like that dude, I think I could benefit from that, right? Like

Dalton Audio: Think that's the sentiment for most people, right? Like when you when you kind of told me in Chad we were both kind of like ears up, right? Like, like that, dude, I think I could benefit from that, right? Like

Chad Audio: Yeah.

Dalton Audio: and I I've heard other friends kind of do something similar. And I've always been like, man, so so let's let's maybe dive into some of the like like the logistics, right? Like how do you make it happen? Like are you renting an Airbnb? Like when did you start? When did you come back? How does it go on the family? Right, like all that kind of stuff. How how does that how do you make it happen?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I I've heard other friends kind of do something similar. And I've always like, man, so so let's let's maybe dive into some of the like like the logistics, right? Like how do you make it happen? Like are you renting an Airbnb? Like when did you start? When did you come back? How does it go on the family? Right. Like all that kind of stuff. How does that how do you make it happen? yeah, that's a good question. Well, it's like I've got a super supportive wife. So that like that helps and three kids and like that that really helps. Yo youngest kids, right?

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: yeah, that's a good question. Well, like I've got a super supportive wife, so that like that helps in three kids and like that, that really helps.

Dalton Audio: Mm. Yeah. Right. Yo youngish kids, right? Like so that it it's a lift.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Like yeah, yeah. So that's it's a lift.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: yeah, young. Yeah. So, yeah, for sure. And yeah, I mean, she's basically an Uber, right? Like she's driving the kids in 9,000 directions every single day. It's hard. Yeah. I mean, she's got, yeah, like she's, she's, she's doing a lot for sure.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: yeah, for sure. And yeah, I mean she's basically an Uber, right? Like she's driving the kids in nine thousand directions every single day. It's hard. Yeah. I mean she's yeah, like she's she's she's doing a lot for sure.

Dalton Audio: Yeah. Right.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: but she's super supportive, which is which is helpful. So the way that this conversation started is I said to her, like, hey, like Brent says that I should I should do this. And she was like, Okay, whatever. And then I came back and she was like, like

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: but she's super supportive, which is, which is helpful. So the way that this conversation started, as I said to her, like, Hey, like Brent says that I should, I should do this. And she was like, okay, like whatever. And then I came back and she was like, like,

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: seems to have been really beneficial. And so now it's just the thing. Right. So now it's just kind of, it's just in the, it's just in the cadence. I'm Just something I do. I'm going to go again in December. the first time I went to a state park, rented a cabin and.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: seems to have been really beneficial. And so now it's just a thing, right? So now it's just kind of it's just in the it's just in the case. Something you do. It's just something I do. I'm gonna go again in December. the first time I went to a state park, rented a cabin and

Dalton Audio: Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Just something to do.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I frankly didn't enjoy it as much. And yeah, like what it's.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I frankly didn't enjoy it as much. And yeah. As just

Dalton Audio: Okay.

Chad Audio: It's just just just

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: like personality wise, it's just not your vibe or or like was there something

Chad Audio: like personality wise, it's just not your vibe or or like was there something?

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: yeah, it's a little, okay. Good question. So it's a little bit of that. So like I said, I do my best thinking when I walk. And I also do my best thinking when I'm walking on the beach specifically. I've always been that way. I've been that way for 30 years. So what I decided was I don't enjoy trail walking as much as I do like path walking. So then I just started throwing things in the chat, like, Hey, like, is there a place I kind of close to the beach? I can walk to the beach.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: It's a little okay, good question. So it's a little bit of that. So like I said, I do my best thinking when I walk and I also do my best thinking when I'm walking on the beach specifically. I've always been that way. I've been that way for 30 years. So what I decided was I don't enjoy trail walking as much as I do like pathwalking. So then I just started throwing things in the chat like, Hey, like is there place like kind of close to the beach? I can walk to the beach,

Dalton Audio: Okay.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: like I can walk on trails, like that sort of thing. And so I ended up going to Edistow.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Like I could walk on trails, like that sort of thing. And so I ended up going to Edisto, which is an Island just north of like Hilton head. like two hours from here, between like here in Charleston, Airbnb type situation worked out, worked out just fine. Like I'm not like, I don't like camping is just not my thing. You know, I would imagine for some people, like if that's your thing, you should, you should, you should do that for sure. Yeah. Like absolutely perfect. It's not, it's not my thing. Like to me, that's more stressful than.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Which is an island just north of like Hilton Head. It's like two hours from here. But to me, like here in Charleston. Airbnb type situation. Yep. Worked out worked out just fine. Like I'm not like I don't like camping is just not my thing. You know, I would imagine for some people, like if that's your thing, you should you should you should do perfect for sure. Yeah. Yeah, like absolutely perfect. It's not it's not my thing. Like that to me, that's more stressful than not. Right.

Chad Audio: Yeah. That perfect. Yeah.

Dalton Audio: Right. It's more work than than unplugging, yeah.

Chad Audio: Right.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: More work than than you know.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, it's like,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, right. So that's not that's not how I've approached it. I'm probably gonna stick with the Airbnb route, I think. and then the other thing I found with the state park is it was kind of busy. Busy's busy's not super great. Like I want when I get there, I want zero contact with other humans. Zero noise, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like noise, a little bit of noise, okay, but I don't want to I don't wanna have to talk to human other humans. Like I just wanna be kind of like in my zone.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Right. So that's not, that's not how I've approached it. I'm probably going to stick with the Airbnb route. I think. and then the other thing I found with the state parks, it was kind of Busy is, busy is not super great. Like I want, when I get there, I want zero contact with other humans. Yeah. Like noise, a little bit of noise. Okay. But I don't want to, I don't want to have to talk to human other humans. Like I just want to be kind of like in my zone.

Dalton Audio: Mm. Yeah, zero noise, yeah, yeah.

Chad Audio: Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. That's it.

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: That's it, right? like the thing that becomes pretty clear, pretty quick is just like how much chaos we have around us at all times. And, you know, so when I got back, I went and picked up my daughter from dance. Like I, she wasn't home when I got home. So when her dance was over, I went and picked her up and we were riding the car and she's, she's like a very heady kind of person. Like she's a thinker. And so she was asking me, she's like, dad, where'd you go? What were you doing?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Right. Yeah. like the thing that becomes pretty clear pretty quick is just like how much chaos we have around us at all times. And you know, so when I got back, I went and picked up my daughter from the dance. Like I she wasn't home when I got home. So when her dance was over, I went and I picked her up and we were riding the car. And she's she's like a very heady kind of person. Like think she's a thinker. And so she was asking me, she's like, Dad, where'd you go? What were you doing? I was kind of

Dalton Audio: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: explaining it.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I was like, you know, it I was like, I was just thinking. She was like, Well, why did you know, why do you have to go away to do that? And I'm like, Because there's just so much chaos. And she goes, Dad, are we chaos? And I was Yes. Partially yes. No, yeah. Of course. The good chaos. Of course not. But it it it become it, you know, after it's probably after the first day of my first one, it becomes just really clear exactly how much chaos there is. Yeah. Which is an absolute ton.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: was like, you know, it was like, I was just thinking, she was like, why did, you know, why do you have to go away to do that? And I'm like, because there's just so much chaos. And she goes, dad, are we chaos? I'm like, no, no, no, yeah, like, of course not. But it becomes, you know, after it's probably after the first day of my first one, it becomes just really clear exactly how much chaos there is, which is an absolute ton.

Dalton Audio: Yep. Yes. Partially yes. You're good, chaos.

Chad Audio: Yeah. Yes you are.

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: And it's like, okay, well, what does that mean? And how do I, how do I deal with that? And what the, you know, what, what should things look like? And what I figured out pretty quick too, it's like the phone's a problem, you know, the constant and just in general, the constant notifications and, all that stuff. Like, okay, that's a problem. Figured that out. But what I've also found is like after two days, I feel physically lighter. And then what that means, what that means for me specifically is when I get.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And it's like, okay, well, what does that mean? And how do I how do I deal with that? And what the you know, what what should things look like? And what I figured out pretty quick too is like the phone's a problem, you know, the constant and just in general, the constant notifications and and all that stuff. Like, okay, that's a problem. Figured that out. Yeah. But what I've also found is like after two days, I feel physically lighter. And then what that me like what that means for me specifically is when I get

Dalton Audio: Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: stressed or whatever, all of a I carry all the tension like in my neck, in my back, my shoulders. And then after two days of not that and not sitting at a desk and all that stuff, it's noticeably looser to the point where I feel physically later. Wow. And so that's a great feeling. And then, you know, driving a couple of hours back to the house, protecting that windshield time, like maybe there's music, maybe there's not, but just kind of protecting that time and just basically debriefing with yourself over what you'd experienced for the last

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: stressed or whatever, all of it. carry all the tension like in my neck and my back, my shoulders. And then after two days of not that, not sitting at a desk and all that stuff, it's noticeably looser to the point where I feel physically later. And so that's a great feeling. And then, you know, driving a couple of hours back to the house, protecting that windshield time. Like maybe there's music, maybe there's not, but just kind of protecting that time and just basically debriefing with yourself over what you'd experienced for the last.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Forty hours or whatever. Super helpful. Can't recommend it enough.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: 48 hours, remember? Super helpful. Can't recommend it enough.

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. I so two two two things. One, you said something about like just the level of chaos. And me having just been on a a family vacation, I I remember a s distinct moment where I'm like almost entering into that, like, man, I feel like I'm starting to relax. Right. And then and it was this it was like multi-generational trip I did with my parents too. And we're gonna go out to brunch, rainy day. We didn't have any plans.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, I so two two two things. One, you said something about like just the level of chaos. And me having just been on a a family vacation, I I remember a s distinct moment where I'm like almost entering into that like, man, I feel like I'm starting to relax. Right. And then and it was this it was like multi-generational trip I did with my parents too. And we're gonna go out to brunch, rainy day, we didn't have any plans. And so my mom's like, Can you call the restaurant and like see if they take reservations? And I'm like

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And so my mom's like, can you call the restaurant and like see if they take reservations? And I'm like, like, you need me to do that? Like I got I I gotta do and so of course, right? Like because I have to do everything, right? It's just perfect example, right? Because if this is a vacation and I'm like, I'm almost there, right? Like I am starting to enter into real no just kidding, I'm back again. Chaos is there and and I'm out of it. And right. So it's just I I yeah, that chaos when you when you recognize like it is just it's everywhere. So the people that are listening that are like, like I get away, it's like, dude, this is so different.

Dalton Audio: Like you need me to do that? Like I got I I gotta do and s of course, right? Like because I have to do everything, right? So it is just perfect example, right? Because if this is a vacation and I'm like, I'm almost there, right? Like I am starting to enter into real No, just kidding, I'm back again. Chaos is there and and I'm out of it. And right. So it's just I I yeah, that chaos when you when you recognize like it is just it's everywhere. So the people that are listening that are like, like I get away, it's like, dude, this is so different,

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Chaos.

Chad Audio: Yeah, right.

Dalton Audio: right? Like getting away with with family like it this is so different than that. So that that was one thing.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Right. Like getting away with with fan like this is so different than that. So that was one thing.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Two is so when do you just a little bit more of like the specifics? So like when did you like I left my home at Thursday at two PM, eleven AM, whatever it was. And then when did you get back? Like what was your your home time?

Dalton Audio: Two is so when do you just a little bit more of like the specifics. So like when did you like I left my home at Thursday at two PM, eleven AM, whatever it was, and then when did you get back? Like what was your your home time?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, not great because Thursday morning I had to go get fit for my driver. okay. So it delayed you a little bit, which is fine. I think there's health to like it not having to be rigid though, right? Like there's there's something that one does.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, not great because Thursday morning I had to go get fit for my driver and.

Dalton Audio: okay. So it delayed you a little bit, which is fine. I think there's health to like it not having to be rigid though, right? Like there's there's something to that too.

Chad Audio: As a As one does.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, as one does, yeah, I didn't do a very good job managing my calendar. had a, I've got like one, specifically one recurring meeting with one client. Like I don't do recurring meetings anymore. It's always like, here's my calendar link, it, right? and I didn't move it. And so I had to wait around for that. And then I had like, and it's tax season. So I had like a couple of emails and stuff like that. And so by the time I'm leaving, it's like three o'clock. So, left at like three went to.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, as one does. Yeah, I didn't do a very good job of managing my calendar. I had a rec I've got like one specifically one recurring meeting with one client. Like I don't do recurring meetings anymore. It's always like, here's my calendar link, book it, right? Right. Yeah. and I didn't move it. And so I had to wait around for that. And then I had like and it's taxis, and so I had like a couple of emails and stuff like that. And so by the time I'm leaving, it's like three o'clock. Okay. So left at like three, went to

Dalton Audio: Okay. Yeah. Right.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: grocery store, but it doesn't great, like picked up basically food for two days. Yeah, and then so after like three, three 30, I got there like six, something like that. Yeah, probably got six o'clock. That was Thursday. And then I left there 10 o'clock on Saturday, home at noon. So, but like ideally I would block that first day, the first full day and take that whole thing. And then.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: grocery store picked up some grocery like picked up basically food for two days. Yeah. Rations. yeah. And then so left at like three, three thirty. I got there like six, something like that. Yeah. Like yeah, probably about six o'clock. That was Thursday. And then I left there ten o'clock on Saturday home at noon. Okay. So but like ideally I would block that first day, the first full day. Right. Yeah. And and take that whole thing. But I think I think there's

Dalton Audio: Yeah, rations. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I think I think there's something in that moment too,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: something in that moment too.

Dalton Audio: right? Like I think I've this is something that I've been living in for probably about 18 months. It's just this idea of like not putting up zeros. You know, and like I think so often, at least for me, I don't know if you guys can empathize with this either. This is more like workout oriented, where I'm like, man, like I was gonna do this and it didn't go my way, like my plan isn't happening. So now I'm just gonna like scrap it and like I'm just not gonna do anything. And instead choosing like, all right, I can't do my plan.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Right. Like I think I've this is something that I've been living in for probably about 18 months. It's just this idea of like not putting up zeros. You know, and like I think so often, at least for me, I don't know if you guys can empathize with this either. This is more like workout oriented, where I'm like, man, like I was gonna do this and it didn't go my way, like my plan isn't happening. So now I'm just gonna like scrap it and like I'm just not gonna do anything. Yeah. And instead choosing like, all right, I can't do my plan,

Chad Audio: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: but I'm not gonna put up a zero.

Dalton Audio: But I'm not gonna put up a zero and I've got twenty five minutes right now. What can I do in 25 minutes? Right. So I didn't have the hour. Exactly. So it's like, don't put up a zero. Right. And so it's it's kind of that same mentality, right? Like, okay, I didn't, I didn't get my 48. But man, I mean, I got 38, right? Like, that's pretty darn good. Or 30, 40, right? Like, that's that's way better than be like, I can't leave now. I might as well not go. Like, you know what I mean? Like fighting off that temptation. and having this idea of like, man, something is better than nothing. And that's been something for me like.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I've got 25 minutes right now. What can I do in 25 minutes? Right. So I didn't have the hour. Exactly. So it's like, don't put up a zero. Right. And so it's it's kind of that same mentality, right? Like, okay, I didn't, I didn't get my 48. But man, I mean, I got 38, right? Like, that's pretty darn good. Or 30 40, right? Like, that's that's way better than be like, I can't leave now. I might as well not go. Like, you know what I mean? Like fighting off that temptation. and having this idea of like something is better than nothing. That's been something for me like

Chad Audio: Mm-hmm. Like if something's better than nothing.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm. Yeah, 100%.

Dalton Audio: I mean, that it sounds simple. but this idea of like, man, I only have fifteen minutes, it's not worth it. So well dude, do a whole bunch of push-ups and a bunch of sit-ups and a bunch of squats and it's like, dang, for a workout, like you can kill your body in fifteen minutes if you do that without breaking. so

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I mean that it sounds simple. but this idea of like, man, I only have fifteen minutes, it's not worth it. So well dude, do a whole bunch of push ups and a bunch of sit ups and a bunch of squats and it's like, dang, for a workout, like you can kill your body in fifteen minutes if you do that without breaking. so Yeah,

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay. So take it, take it back to golf, which is kind of on, on, on brand with the podcast. Right. So Ben Hogan said that every day that you don't practice is a day that you don't get better and somebody else does same deal.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: so take it take it back to golf, which is kind of on on on brand with the podcast, right? So Ben Hogan said that every day that you don't practice don't practice is a day that you don't get better and somebody else does. Same deal.

Dalton Audio: Yes. Yeah.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yep.

Dalton Audio: Yep.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah absolutely.

Dalton Audio: Absolutely.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Absolutely. Yeah. So good. I mean it's I think it's interesting when you're talking about I think the the concept of like where you go, what environment you put yourself into to do this is is super interesting. And I don't think that anybody else can help you figure out what that is. Cause I think it's gotta be super individualized and personal for you because there's probably a lot of people that like the silence,

Dalton Audio: Absolutely. Yeah. So good.

Chad Audio: Yeah, I mean it's I think it's interesting when you're talking about I think the the concept of like where you go, what environment you put yourself into to do this is is super interesting. And I don't think that anybody else can help you figure out what that is. Cause I think it's gotta be super individualized and personal for you. Because there's probably a lot of people that like the silence,

Dalton Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Nah.

Chad Audio: Like for me it'd be like like sitting out on a boat or something like that by myself. And for other people like like I need like city noise around me, just that's like a comfort blanket for me. Like if you grew up in in New York City or something like that, like if taking you out of the environment might make you weird it out a little bit. And I think I think that's just the main thing is it's just it's just finding

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Like for me, it'd be like like sitting out on a boat or something like that by myself. And for other people, like like I need like city noise around me, just that's like a comfort blanket for me. Like if you grew up in in New York City or something like that, like if taking you out of an environment might make you weird it out a little bit. And I think that's what my main thing is it's just. What my coach would say to you though is why why do you think that way? And maybe you need to sit sit with that.

Dalton Audio: Mm. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: So what my coach would say to you though is why do you think that way? And maybe you need to sit with that.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, and that's and that's totally fair too. I th yeah. I think my I think my point is whatever whatever works for somebody else may not yeah may not work for you. Like like the camping thing may not I like like that the camping part was interesting because like that to me, like when you describe what you were doing, I'm like, Well that's camping by myself. And then you were like, That's my hell, I'm not doing that.

Chad Audio: Yeah, and that's and that's totally fair too. I th yeah. I think my I think my point is whatever whatever works for somebody else may not may not work for you. Like like the camping thing may not I like like that the camping part was interesting because like that to me, like when you describe what you were doing, I'm like, Well that's camping by myself. And then you were like, That's my hell, I'm not doing that.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Because the Yeah.

Dalton Audio: Mm-hmm.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm. You

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: That's why that's why I think it's funny. I think it's so important to like get get where you're where you're like your guard is down, you're totally comfortable, and you don't have to think about the environment anymore. And I and then I think it kind of frees your mind up to be like, Okay, we're safe, we're comfortable. Let's do what we came here to do. You know.

Chad Audio: Is that's why that's why I think it's funny. I think it's so important to like get get where you're where you're like your guard is down, you're totally comfortable and you don't have to think about the environment anymore. And I and then I think it kind of frees your mind up to be like, Okay, we're safe, we're comfortable, let's do what we came here to do, you know.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I think.

Dalton Audio: Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you just simultaneously I'm sorry.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, I think you need to be simultaneously. I'm sorry,

Chad Audio: Did you so before you

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: but you need to be simultaneously comfortable and then like in a place where you can think. And actually I found that chat.gbt is like helpful and unpacking. So like, if you're not sure even where to get started with yourself, with that conversation, chat.gbt.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: But like you need to be simultaneously comfortable and like in a place where you can think. And actually I I found that Chat G BT is like helpful in unpacking that. So like if you're not sure even where to get started with yourself with that conversation, Chat G BT. Yeah. Did you so did you go did you have an agenda like ahead of time? Like here's the thing, here's the things I want to figure out when I go, or is this just like I show up with a blank canvas and just start like figuring that stuff out while I'm there and then and then working through it? Like, did you go with objectives like I wanna I wanna I wanna get to the bottom of this XYZ or or not?

Chad Audio: Did you so did you go did you have an agenda like ahead of time? Like here's the thing, here's the things I want to figure out when I go, or is this just like I show up with a blank canvas and just start like figuring that stuff out while I'm there and then and then working through it? Like did you go with objectives like I wanna I wanna I wanna get to the bottom of this XYZ or or not?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: The first time I did and

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: The first time I did and what I figured out was it was totally irrelevant. And so what I did between the first time and the second time is I just kind of had some notes on like, this is what I want to unpack. And I take all my notes in Evernote. And so what I did the first time was I took my Evernote and I just wrote it down in a notebook so that then I could just put the phone away, which is part of the two hours it took me to figure out how to put it on do not disturb. It's embarrassing to even say out loud.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: What I figured out was it was totally irrelevant. And so what I did between the first time and the second time is I just kind of had some notes on like this is what I want to unpack. And I I take all my notes in Evernote. And so what I did the first time was I took my Evernote and I just wrote it down in a notebook so that then I could just put the phone away, which is part of the two hours it took me to figure out how to put it on Do Not Disturb, which is embarrassing to even say out loud. and then the second time so the second time I had these notes and I'm like, you know what? Like I'm not even gonna.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: And then the second time, so the second time I had these notes and I'm like, you know what? Like, I'm not even gonna, I'm not even opening the Evernote. I'm not even gonna, I'm just gonna see, see what happens. And that was fine. And I'm imagining that the next time that I go, probably even less, like less of an agenda. No agenda. Figure it out.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I'm not even opening the Evernote. I'm not even I'm just gonna see see what happens. And that was fine. And I'm imagining that the next time that I go, probably even less, like less of an agenda. It's no agenda. It's what I figured out. Hm. I like that. I think it's good because what what's gonna come to mind first is probably the main things you need to deal with. I think I think the more constraint you you put on this and the more structure you put to your mind while you're out there doing this, I think that's probably in a little way opposite of what's what's supposed to be happening, but yeah. That's also how we're wired. So

Chad Audio: Mm. I like that. I think it's good because what what's gonna come to mind first is probably the main things you need to deal with. I think I think the more constraint you you put on this and the more structure you put to your mind while you're out there doing this, I think that's probably in a little way opposite of what's what's supposed to be happening, but that's also how we're wired. So

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: So like you guys know, like I sit on a board and we're going on we're going through some like stuff right now. And

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: So you guys know, like I said on a board and we're going through some like stuff right now. And you know what I found in like the first couple of hours is I'm thinking about that versus the things that I actually want to be thinking about. It's like, okay, well, that's instructive too. Like you catch yourself and it's like, all right, I've been sitting here thinking about this for, yeah, I've been sitting here thinking about this for 20 minutes and that's a problem. Okay, well, what does that tell me?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: You know, what what I found in like the first couple of hours is I'm thinking about that versus the things that I actually want to be thinking about. It's like, okay, well, that's instructive too. Like you catch yourself and it's like, all right, I've been sitting here thinking about this for Yeah, I've been sitting here thinking this for twenty minutes and that's a problem. Okay, well what what does that tell me?

Dalton Audio: Mm. Yeah. You process that, yeah.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. Stuff like that too, right? So it's not even it's not even necessarily related to what you're trying to accomplish. But

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Stuff like that too, right? So it's not even necessarily related to what you're trying to accomplish, but it

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: You know, it comes to mind and it's it's one of those things that's just worth sitting.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: comes to mind and it's one of those things that's just worth sitting with.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah. Yeah. Love it. I think it's awesome, dude. I think it's super cool. I'd I'd love to like every every every business owner, every leader knows you need to probably create time for yourself. It's just it's like it's obviously hard. You have to be intentional about it and you and you really need to remove yourself. You can't you cannot just shut your office door for three hours and I'm gonna figure some stuff out. I I

Chad Audio: Yeah. Love it. I think it's awesome, dude. I think it's super cool. I'd I'd love to like every every every business owner, every leader knows you need to probably create time for yourself. It's just it's like it's obviously hard. You have to be intentional about it and you and you really need to remove yourself. You can't you cannot just shut your office door for three hours and I'm gonna figure some stuff out. I I

Dalton Audio: Right.

Chad Audio: I think we all know well enough that that does that's not going to work. You you need to remove yourself from a lot of the stuff and so I think it's cool, man. I think it I think I I'd applaud you for doing it. I think it's I think it shows the commitment you've got to what you're doing as a as a business owner and I love it.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I think we all know well enough that that does that's not going to work. You you need to remove yourself from a lot of the stuff and so I think it's cool, man. I think it I think I I'd applaud you for doing it. I think it's I think it shows the commitment you've got to what you're doing as a as a business owner and I love it. Appreciate

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I that.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: that. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Awesome. All right. Well let's let's kind of get back to these beers here and see.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Awesome. All right. Well let's let's kind of get back to these beers here and see see what our scoring's gonna be. Just a a recount of of what our rankings are. One and two is no thanks. We had one of those within the last week or two. That means basically you're pouring that thing down the drain, not drinking another sip. three and four, only if it's free, would not pay for it. five to six, solid beer. Yeah, it's okay. Totally drinkable. seven and eight.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: See what our scoring's gonna be. Just a a recount of of what our rankings are. One and two is no thanks. We had one of those within the last week or two. That means basically you're pouring that thing down the drain, not drinking another sip. three and four, only if it's free, would not pay for it. five to six, solid beer. Yeah, it's okay. Totally drinkable. seven and eight, that's a good beer. We're we're digging this. And then a nine and ten, it's like this is this is elite beer.

Dalton Audio: That's a good beer. We're we're digging this. And then a nine and ten, it's like this is this is elite beer. top top five, top ten beer of all time, top beer.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Top, top five, top ten beer of all time, top beer. Bolton,

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Dalton,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I think you gotta go first. I wanna hear about this double red. Yeah, yeah. So I'm man, this thing is pretty good. I'm I'm having in the rating, I'm having a hard time because I am like I do love IPAs. And it's not an IPA, but like I'm so I'm trying to weigh the do I rate this as my taste buds, or do I rate this as like as far as reds go? You know what I mean? Like it's kind of a subtlety of

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: I think you gotta go first. I wanna hear about this double red.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, yeah. So I'm man, this thing is pretty good. I'm I'm having in the rating, I'm having a hard time because I am like I do love IPAs. And it's not an IPA, but like I'm so I'm trying to weigh the do I rate this as my taste buds or do I rate this as like as far as reds go? You know what I mean? Like it's kind of a subtlety of

Chad Audio: Mm.

Dalton Audio: and I think I'm gonna kinda land in between and and give it

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: And I think I'm gonna kinda land in between and and give it potentially from my taste buds a slight inflation because it's not an IPA. If that does that sound fair? I mean I may need a may need a ruling from the committee or if it should just be pure pure taste buds or if or if it you know what I mean? Listen, we we let you judge the bunny beer on your own merits. So whatever you But I that was bad. I did a bad job on that. I overinflated that thing by like two points.

Dalton Audio: potentially from my taste buds a slight inflation because it's not an IPA. If that does that sound fair? I mean I may need a may need a ruling from the committee or if it should just be pure pure taste buds or if or if it you know what I mean?

Chad Audio: We listen, we we let you judge the bunny beer on your own merits. So whatever you whatever you do here you did.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: hahahahah

Dalton Audio: But I that was bad. I did a bad job on that. I overinflated that thing by like two points.

Chad Audio: Maybe we should step in.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: So here's a question though. Like last week I said that the base score for me for an IPA is a six. And so what I heard you just say is that maybe the base score for you for red is slightly higher than it would be for an IPA.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: So here's a question though. Like last week I said that the base score for me for an IPA is a six. Yep. And so what I heard you just say is that maybe the base score for you for a red is slightly higher than it would be for an IPA. No opposite. Base score for a red, like average red to average IPA, IPA is gonna score higher for my case, buds. Okay, cool. Yeah. This is

Dalton Audio: No opposite. They score for a red, like average red to average IPA, IPA is gonna score higher for my taste buds. Yeah. This is

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay.

Chad Audio: So.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay. Okay, cool.

Dalton Audio: this is every bit as good as my I hazy IPA I had last week, which like hazy IPA probably my favorite type of beer. And I scored that one an eight. Eight flat. And this is every bit as good, but it's a red. So I'm like, does it also get an eight? Or does that mean this is like an eight?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: This is every bit as good as my I hazy IPA I had last week, which like hazy IPA probably my favorite type of beer. And I scored that one an eight. Eight flat. And this is every bit as good, but it's a red. So I'm like, does it also get an eight? Or does that mean this is like an eight

Chad Audio: Mm-hmm.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: plus? You know what I mean? That's kind of what I'm trying to like. Okay. You know? Honestly, I think and as I'm drinking it, I'm like, this is and maybe 'cause it's eight six instead of

Dalton Audio: Plus, you know what I mean? That's kind of what I'm trying to like, you know. honestly, I think and as I'm drinking it, I'm like, this is and maybe because it's eight six instead of

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Interesting. Okay.

Chad Audio: Yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Give us a number.

Dalton Audio: a six but but it's I mean, this is pretty good. It it really does say, you know, I I took a photo of the the description when I bought it, and it said that it was a double red and that they finished it with these West Coast hops.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Six O. But it's I mean, this is pretty good. It it really does say, you know, I I took a photo of the the description when I bought it. And it said that it was a double red and that they finished it with these West Coast hops to give it kind of that IPA infusion. And so the fact that it has like some of those red qualities with a bit of an IPA finish. it's a pretty darn good beer. like you're talking yourself into a high rating here.

Dalton Audio: to give it kind of that IPA infusion. And so the fact that it has like some of those red qualities with a bit of an IPA finish. it's a pretty darn good beer.

Chad Audio: Like you're talking yourself into a high rating here. I

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: It's a

Chad Audio: I go Whew.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, this feels I'm gonna go eight four. I'm just gonna lock it in. It feels like

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, this feels I'm gonna go eight four. I'm just gonna lock it in. It feels like

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yep. Ooh.

Dalton Audio: eight four. Yeah. Feels like eight four. it's not a top five beer. but it is this is a really, really good beer. I would I would go so far to say the best red I've ever had. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Chris, I will I'll be sure to bring one of these when I see you next time because I know you're a fan of red. Chad, by association, you're gonna get one too. Don't worry.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: eight four. Yeah. Feels like eight four. it's not a top five beer. but it is this is a really, really good beer. I would I would go so far to say the best red I've ever had. yeah. Yeah. That's high price. Yeah. That's high breeze. Chris, I will I will be sure to bring one of these when I see you next time because I know you're a fan of red Chad bike association. You're gonna get one too.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay.

Chad Audio: Pretty good. That's high praise. That's high praise.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Love that.

Chad Audio: What the hell? Why does why does

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Hahaha!

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: What is cr what is Christy one? What am I Well if I had this is gonna be like the second red you've ever had and the the benchmark is just gonna be gonna be really high, but that's fine. That's it's fine. See if you can bring it back to Kansas, do some things over there. Whatever. Mm-hmm. all right, Chad, what are drinking? What are you what are you scoring it?

Chad Audio: cr what is crisky want? What the what am I freaking chopp liver?

Dalton Audio: Well if I have you're this is gonna be like the second red you've ever had and the the benchmark is just gonna be really high, but that's fine. That's it's fine. See if you can bring it back to Kansas, do some things over there. all right, Chad, what are you drinking? What are you what are you scoring at?

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: haha

Chad Audio: Whatever.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Mm-hmm.

Chad Audio: So so the friction friction beer company, the Southern Hospitality, you saw so the the without the the benefit of the video, you didn't see my

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: So so the friction friction beer company, the southern hospitality. You saw so the the without the the benefit of the video, you didn't see my

Chad Audio: almost surprised face when I took my first drink. there was a there was a lot of like like mango kind of I guess it so it it startled me at first. but I I settled in.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: almost surprised face when I took my first drink. we heard it. We heard the There was a there was a lot of like like mango kind of it's it so it it startled me at first. but I I settled in

Dalton Audio: Yeah. we heard it. We heard the Yeah, okay.

Chad Audio: And and and we we cozied up and I and I like it. it's probably not probably not as big a fan as the first the first couple that I've had.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: and and and we we cozyd up and I and I like it. it's probably not probably not as big a fan as the first the first couple that I've had.

Chad Audio: I'm gonna give this a a seven point six. It's good. that's pretty high. I mean it's that like I would definitely have have more of these. just just just

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I'm gonna give this a a seven point six. Okay. That's good. Still pretty high, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty high. I mean it's that like I would definitely have have more of these. where's this one out of again? Where's

Dalton Audio: Okay. Still pretty high, yeah. Where's this one out of again? Where's the brewery?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: the brewery? This is Shawnee, Kansas. So this is a That's right, local one suburban Kansas City. Yeah, and then the

Chad Audio: This is Shawnee, Kansas. So this is a suburban Kansas City. Yeah. And and the

Dalton Audio: That's right. Local one. That's right.

Chad Audio: I believe one of the owners of this this brewery is on the board of one of my clients. So so it was going no lower than a seven for sure. just based on that. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. This is all of the board. Yeah. No, it's not that good a client. I'm just kidding. it's yeah, I what whatever I said, seven

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I I believe one of the owners of this this brewery is on the board of one of my clients. So so it was going no lower than a seven for sure. just based on that. No, I'm kidding. You sure it's not a nine? Yeah. No, it's not that good a client. I'm just kidding. it's yeah, I what whatever I said. Seven

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: You sure it's not a nine?

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: say seven six, is that what I said? Seven six is what you said. Seven six. Okay. Market.

Chad Audio: Say seven six, is that what I said? Seven six. Okay. Mark it. Lock it in. Chris. Chris, you're up.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Lock it in. Yep. It's in. Chris. All right. So I got

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yup, it's in. All right, so I got

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: I got yep, I got Hop Doctor and Shell Ring L works, Port Royal, South Carolina. It's it's good. It's one of my favorite local beers for sure. partially because it I feel like I've got a good inside joke slash story with one of my buddies about it. it's not it's not as good as the focal banger, which was an eight point two.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: got, yup, I got Hop Doctor and Shell Ring L-Works, Port Royal, South Carolina. It's good, it's one of my favorite local beers for sure. Partially because I feel like I've got a good inside joke slash story with one of my buddies about it. It's not as good as the Focal Banger, which was an 8.2.

Dalton Audio: Hmm.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: episode 2. So I'm gonna go 8. Good, very good. it's solid. Yeah, would say it's solid 8 for sure. It's not a set. 8.0. Yeah, it's not a, this is not a 7 beer. It's a, but it's also not as good as the 8.0 Fogelbanger for sure. So 8.0 it is.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Episode two. so I'm gonna go eight. Good, very good. Sol yeah, I would say it's a solid eight for sure. Eight point eight point yeah. It's not a s this is not a seven beer. It's okay, but it's also not as good as the eight point two Fogel Banger for sure. So okay. This is this is

Chad Audio: Nice.

Dalton Audio: Eight point Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Chad Audio: Well this is this is

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: this is encouraging. I was I was worried that I was becoming the cheerleader and I and I actually have the lowest rank beer. You the lowest. I was gonna say this might be our best, our best studio of beers. No, the lowest last week.

Chad Audio: this is encouraging. I was w I was worded that I was becoming the cheerleader and I and I actually have the lowest rank beer of this of this one.

Dalton Audio: Pretty. You got the low score. I was gonna say this might be our best our best trio of beers. Or was last week.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: No, no, the lowest rank.

Dalton Audio: Maybe. It's close. Another good week though. Another good week.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Yeah, the lowest rank beer is so.

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: Yeah, the lowest rank. Another good week though. Another good week. No,

Chad Audio: No,

GMT20260922 010156 Recording gallery 1280x720: no, no. The lowest of the of the three of us for this one episode. Yes. Okay. That's good. That's right. That's right. Pretty good pretty good couple of weeks of beers for us though. Well done the Well, that'll do it for another episode of RDT FM. Thanks for joining us. we'll see you all next time.

Chad Audio: no, no. The lowest of the of the three of us for this one episode. I I'm the I'm I'm the lowest. So that's good. That's good.

Dalton Audio: Yes, yeah.

Chris Hervochon, CPA, CVA: Okay. It's normalizing.

Dalton Audio: Yeah, that's right. That's right. Pretty good pretty good couple of weeks of beers for us though. Well done the Well, that'll do it for another episode of RDT FM. Thanks for joining us. we'll see you all next time.