Trevor Augustus: Man episode 14. We are back y'all The it's been a minute podcast. I'm your host Trevor Augustus y'all know me and my partner in crime and the other box over there is Angus AJ Johnson what to do, man ApplJax: What's going on, guys? Are you guys doing Apple Jacks in the building? Was good. Trevor Augustus: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Our apologies for last week. ⁓ We had to reschedule some things, but we are back on it. We are back on it, guys. ⁓ Before we go any further, let's get right into it, man. We got a just a quick out. It's going to be a little shorter episode. We got some things we got to handle afterwards, but we're going to get as much cram as much as we can in. Kind of like how we read the last episode. But hopefully we can get everything in and still give you some good content. So. before we ApplJax: Sure, for sure. me get my shout out in real quick. I gotta get my shout out. I gotta get my daily shout out. Trevor Augustus: All right. ApplJax: Shout out to our future first sponsor. We don't know who that is yet, but we know you coming. We know you're looking for young, aspiring, and hungry content creators. Hey, we consistent now. This is episode 14. I don't think he mentioned that. This is episode 14. Even though we've had some scheduling issues and a lot of rescheduling, a lot of things going on, we got some in the tank. We getting better and better. We looking for that first. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, you have to go somewhere. ApplJax: sponsorship, ⁓ even if it's a mom and pops dryer on the corner. No, I mean, washing dryer, please. Laundry mat, don't matter. All right, that's my shout out. Adidas, we know you're looking at us. Come on Adidas. Trevor Augustus: Even if it's a vacant place, even if it's like some kind of Hey, listen, if they fix vacuums, hey, sponsors, please. Hey, before we get any further, y'all just once again remind you every episode to please like, share and subscribe. repeat, please like, share and subscribe. We're on Spotify. We are on Apple mute. We're on Apple and we are on YouTube. Tell your people, tell everybody, you know, to listen to the show. We appreciate your listening ears and your watchful eyes. ApplJax: Turn the light down. There we go. Trevor Augustus: Let's get right into it man We're gonna gonna deviate a little bit away from the sports Talk a little bit and get into some music man. Where you want to stay you want to go ahead and start with segment one man about the The ingredients to make the biggest rapper alive ApplJax: Yeah, and are we talking about the ingredients that you have listed here? Or do you want me to to list how much is needed for each of those skill sets? do you? Or are we talking about are we just going to go ahead and put someone there for each of those? Trevor Augustus: So just a quick out. I was having this conversation with some other friends of mine about Drake and you know, we have of course, it's always going to be a divide when you talk about Drake and his place in the music industry. And one guy said that Drake is the biggest rapper ever. Now, of course, you know, he got jumped as he should for that take. ⁓ but it got me thinking about, it got my gears turning about the ingredients of what, what is needed to be considered the biggest rapper. So a couple of the criteria that I had written down here and just, let's, let's, let's just go straight up criteria as far as bars, influence numbers, staying power, relatability. are all the above. So let's go ahead and get right into it, man. What you think? ApplJax: First of all, stop going around picking fights about Drake. Leave people alone. Leave people alone, okay? ⁓ Trevor Augustus: Hahaha ApplJax: We're going to have to return to the comment about Drake being the biggest rapper is because it's. I mean remember remember the whole like this is the thing about the whole Mike Jack reference it wasn't just him emulating saying I am Michael Jackson it was him talking about numbers in this game of rap Trevor Augustus: But that's the best thing that's that's that's ApplJax: know what I'm talking about. and we're also talking about billboards as well. So that was essentially what he was kind of first referencing to. And I think we all kind of when it comes to pop music, I think we all can just hand down and say, hey, Michael Jackson got that. He's the king of pop. All right. And so unless anybody else wants to fight it for whatever reason, I mean, for him to be close and numbers wise, I think that's where it kind of comes in and I see you have numbers on you. And so, like we're talking about bars, bars is a must. You just have to have, I mean, that's the essence of hip hop. You gotta have a punchline set up. There's so many different ways. Whatever type of cadence and flow that you have that you wanna do it, storytelling, however your niche in rap is, the bars have to be there, but we just don't wanna listen to you. At that point, cause if you just wanna talk about a bunch of stuff, and put your feelings on paper, then go into an open mic and do poetry, because that's what those guys do. And they're really good at it. And sounds great, but we need like actual bars, actual punchlines and setups, ⁓ which a lot of those poets actually do as well. The influence is huge. The influence... Like if you're not a household name, or at least you're not coming up in random conversations and strangers, Trevor Augustus: Mm-hmm. ApplJax: day to day lives, I don't think that you can consider yourself the biggest rapper. If you're not, if people are not trying to emulate somewhat of a style that you have, or at least an outfit or the way you wore it, or things that you do, mannerisms in any type of way, which a lot of people do with a lot of different artists, I mean, You just have to have influence and that can also mean as well with social media. Those numbers as well, like have to kind of be there and that will kind of like really reflect somewhat of your influence. And you know, that kind of falls right into numbers. I definitely think you don't have to be a rapper that gets the most Grammys, even though I think a lot of people love to make that argument with Kendrick Lamar. ⁓ You and also as well. has like a what is it a Pulitzer Prize winner? ⁓ You know, like he has a lot of different accolades that rappers essentially wouldn't have which allows him to Say, hey, I can be considered the biggest And and I do think you you have to have like a mix of that I think as far as like with your bars and influence you have to have Those numbers that kind of stand out you have to have those multiple platinum those multiple diamond records. And we're talking about first week, we're talking about multiple double platinum, double diamond deluxe albums, stuff like that. All of that in your catalog. And just for you to consider yourself the biggest, we're not talking about like a regular rapper here. We're not talking about someone that can consider them a gray rapper. This word, the biggest, the term the biggest is not even talking about a top five. We're talking about number one, the biggest rapper. ⁓ and you need those things. You definitely need those things staying power. What do you mean as far as staying power? Go ahead and can you clarify that one more time? Trevor Augustus: So staying power staying power basically means like like when we when we bring your name up is do we bring your name up with a groan and sigh or do we bring your name like oh yeah yeah yeah like okay that's that's key still cool like like For example, ⁓ Snoop. clips. ApplJax: So I'm gonna be completely honest I get it from the you I'm gonna cut you off so just to kind of continue really quickly From what the the explanation we use it from staying power If I'm if I'm judging that out of a ten Six or seven and the thing about this that has a lot to do with interchanging of generations and I just how people view things like Eminem used to be literally rap god now People were trying to cancel him for songs that he wrote like 20 years ago. And for a lot of people in our generation, we know Eminem. mean, dude, the other day my dad ran in here, it was probably maybe a couple months ago. He ran in here showing me a song with him and LL Cool J. He just went crazy. Like people from our generation older understand who Eminem is. We know he's always gonna be that boy, even LL Cool J. So LL Cool J still got it, boy. Trevor Augustus: My mom loves that song. Listen, my mom loves that song too. Murder, yeah. ApplJax: it like it was the first person who made the term go so the auto so this is what we talking about right so like as far as staying power i don't think that's that important i think it could be nice like as far as like i think that really more reflects people that had more potential as far as like maybe deceased rappers or those that kind of like really kind of capped off their career or something ⁓ like Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: Like for instance, Malice and the Clips. When people mention that, they're like, ooh yeah. And then ⁓ the conversation goes right into, ⁓ you Malice, you know, turned to this and what they could have been if they would have stuck together. Now we see them now. So it's like, I think more people when it comes to Stained Power, when we kind of mentioned their name and reference and people have that ooh, ⁓ it's more like a people of what could have been or people that had like a high peak, but just kind of like crashed out. Relatability, yeah, but with the amount of people that kind of like to just feel certain stuff that's essentially not even necessarily what they live. It's a big aspect to music now. Before, used to really do be like, you know, lot of people would listen to... ⁓ genres of music that essentially will kind of relate more to them. They're closer to, they've been through that type of situation. That's honestly why I kind of liked artists like Drake in the first place, just because of going through relationships with just really weird women. And so ⁓ people are going to relate to certain things. However, there's also the aspect of people listening to like, me and you have never been through any type of situation that Banging the Butcher has been in. Or Conway. Trevor Augustus: you ApplJax: our West Side gun, but me and you will bump some girls. Exactly. Exactly. So it's like, as far as the relatability, it's like, people like to think of themselves as something that they know they would never live or know, you know, they've never been in and it's fun for them to think that. So. ⁓ Trevor Augustus: I was bumping in earlier. ApplJax: Would I say all of the above? ⁓ I would say it's really more just what bars influence in numbers as far as the other stuff is just all semantics and opinions. Trevor Augustus: I think staying power matters a little bit more than you're saying because you could be somebody like malice in the clip. So you could be Benzino like that's why, that's why I say staying power because like, look at Snoop, like bro, Snoop's like 60 years old almost. And he's still, yeah. And he's still doing music like in between all of that. But how many times have we looked at somebody, somebody like, like a Benzino? ApplJax: Yeah? And he's had an endorsement of every company. Yeah. Trevor Augustus: And it's just like, bro, give me the microphone. Come on. Come here. Come here and drink some milk, old man. Now, but what? ApplJax: Yeah, yeah. And I agree with that. I agree with that. But just my only pushback, my only pushback really quickly before you move on, and I'm not going to go on too much, is just that most of the individuals that do have bad staying power have put themselves in that position. They made that bed. And that's all I'll say, because most people that we have a sour taste in our mouth when we mention their name, usually they've done something or they've continued to do something. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: or lack their acknowledgement of the things that they do and they continue to make the bed that they sleep in and that's why we have that sound rotation. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, but I just, my only thing about that is though, like it's the, it's the arc, it's the R Kelly argument. ApplJax: Thank Trevor Augustus: And you know I'm right. Everybody, R. Kelly, that. You know good and well when you hear keys in the ignition, you bumping that. Come on. Like, what are we talking about? ApplJax: Eugh. Yeah. Yeah. Trevor Augustus: I mean, I'm just saying. ApplJax: Not to mention the other hundreds of R &B songs that we listen to from other artists that he actually wrote, that those artists have come out and said that he wrote. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, so like people people like sometimes like when it comes to and and this and this is a whole different topic and discussion but like Sometimes like people try to get on this moral high horse about like Artists and how they view people and it's just like bro Come on, you know good and well like we all we all listen into this certain artist And you might try to think ⁓ i'm not gonna i'm not gonna yeah you are. Yeah you are Yeah ApplJax: Yeah. You know what's funny? You mentioned R. Kelly's name. Very crazy subject. I don't even know how this podcast has gotten into the R. Kelly situation. But just a little side note, I was just thinking while I was driving the other day, this is very weird, very random thought. And I was just thinking, I was just driving and I wasn't listening to R. Kelly, but I was just thinking about all those trapped in the closets that I grew up on. And I was just like, you know what? Trevor Augustus: It's okay. ApplJax: He failed his appeal. They denied it. Go ahead and let him drop a trapped in a cell series. know, just, you know, you know, he's been in there long enough. He's going to be in there. He's going to serve his whole term. You know, like just a little like a little 20 part trapped in the cell. I know he got it under the bed. I know he got it under the pillow. Trevor Augustus: The views expressed by AJ Johnson does not reflect its been a minute podcast and sponsors. ApplJax: you This was a random thought while I driving to work, I'm sorry. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ This is why we have editing guys Anywho ⁓ ApplJax: Blooper reel it is. Just ⁓ a quick sec while I refresh. Trevor's gonna take over while I get my door dash from the front door. And now to our sponsors that pay our bills and my door dash. Trevor Augustus: Okay. Yeah. Right. Yes, Chad, if you ⁓ hear footsteps, that's the sound of our sponsors running away from us. ⁓ That's why AJ is getting his food. Just a little bit about me. For those who may not know, I'm 27 years old. ⁓ I'm in the, we're both in Florida actually, but yeah, I've been knowing AJ since I was about seven, eight years old. ⁓ Kind of been, we've been in and out with the friendship. We've taken like two different paths ⁓ as far as like how we've become friends and how we stayed friends. And we both ended up finding our way back ⁓ and rekindling the bond that we used to have. ⁓ Things are a little different now because we're both grown adults and life happens and we have to adjust accordingly. My dad passed away back in 2021. He was taking care of my mom and my mom had a stroke in 2018. yeah, he passed away in 2021. So I had to step in and take care of the brunt of the caretaking duties that he was doing because I was working at the time trying to You know get things keep things going actually So that's I'm still doing it right now my insurance is paying me to take care of her So that's what I'm doing right now as far as work and as far as having a job For those who might wonder my mom is blind and she had like I said, she had a stroke as well So she can't see out of her left eye and I think her right eye is at like at 2%. It's not glaucoma but I think it's ⁓ I'm not sure. think it's And also a detached retina. So yeah, that's what I've been kind of going through these past couple of years. I've ending out of having had jobs, quit jobs. When I finally decided just to try to quit and do something that was a little bit more flexible according to my change of circumstances. That's what I had to do. Yeah. Yep. About, I would say about maybe six months ago, I decided to call AJ because we hadn't spoken in a couple of years and I found out that he was back around and kind of showing his face again and trying to do better for himself. And I hit him up and we started really talking. It was almost like we never left and speaking of the devil. I hope it's good. ApplJax: You know, I had to take this email. Trevor Augustus: He's... ⁓ ApplJax: And shout out to the Haitians, Aba Seh, NABULE! Damn! ZWO- am Zola. I am Zola. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, where is Wolf at though now? ApplJax: Shout out to my Creole family, dawg. He just moved down to Fort Myers Yeah Yeah, they just you know, they just build a house down there and they they happily moved down there be closer next to family. We're happy for them Trevor Augustus: ⁓ snooker. Yeah. Did Dralyn go with them? ApplJax: Well, then. Nah, jones, he's not around right now. So Trevor Augustus: Okay. ApplJax: We'll see, ⁓ I believe he's somewhere here in central Florida. Trevor Augustus: Okay. But anyway, back to it back to the conversation here, guys. ApplJax: Yeah, I apologize guys. Yeah. Had my door dash keep buffering for 45 minutes that ran into the podcast. You guys probably all know too well. Trevor Augustus: If you want to get it off your chest about DoorDash, can go ahead and say it real quick. ApplJax: Dude, I wanna go on my soapbox, but I'm gonna stay off of it. Go ahead. Let's just... Boy, you have no idea. The other day, the other day, excuse me, I'm gonna get on my soapbox real quick. The other day, these guys took a picture and left my food at another door with the same number just so they can leave. And I called her too. I walked up as she was pulling out. I said, ma'am, my door's over there. She tried to stop and say, I said, ⁓ I'll go get it. And looked at her just like this. Trevor Augustus: Just go ahead. ApplJax: Have a good day. And when I my food, I was upset. Trevor Augustus: Is your address like really marked on your door? ApplJax: Yeah! Yeah, man. Trevor Augustus: Maybe I can't even say wish. Well, I can't even say that because numbers are like universal. ApplJax: You know what? I don't care if she was from a different planet. There's a dot. It's literally a dot. You just follow the dot on that. I'm right here. I can complain over and over and over again about them. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, it's nice. There's somebody who's I understand because somebody who's didn't did door dash. I do get it. I get both sides. ApplJax: But I won't. I've done DoorDash too. I've done Instacart. I've done all that stuff. You know what's crazy? If you can't, make sure you can just press the call button. But I get it. You gotta keep getting them orders, trying to make that dollar by the hour. I get it. I got my food though. got my food. Shout out to DoorDash. Y'all can still sponsor it. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. They definitely not. ApplJax: I got off my soapbox. Grubhub, host mates, what's up, baby? Uber Eats. Uber Eats, what's good? Trevor Augustus: That's crazy. You just asked Doordash for a sponsor, then you go shut out the competition. All right. ApplJax: I don't need DoorDash, man. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ you hear that door dash? Okay. ApplJax: Hey, Uber Eats, Postmates, Grow Up, there's something else too, I forgot what it is. Instacart. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, it's called your tooth. Yeah, it's called your two feet. Go get it ApplJax: You're right. I want to talk about that another day, but let's get back to the conversation because we had a great conversation. because I do. I like I definitely want to talk about one day how most of these companies today are just built off of convenience. And of course, they've made our lives simpler. But if we were to go back to a life like if all of these apps like Amazon, DoorDash, Uber Eats, and all this stuff were just to stop all these delivery apps and these curbside apps and these Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: brought to you on demand apps, even streaming apps. Like all that was just a stop and we had to go back and buy our movies and read our movies from Redbox or a movie store. We had to go get our groceries on ourselves. We had to wait for that break to come in or that break light to come in regularly from eBay or whatever. I don't think we'd be able to handle it anymore. I don't think our generation could do it. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. I mean, I was literally at, cause I had, just a quick thought. I cannot believe how much we've been spoiled by Amazon. Like bro, spoiled by Amazon. ApplJax: I say all the time, Jeff Bezos, I think he deserves his money. When people say, I don't believe, I don't think people should be that rich or I don't believe he's that rich or I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like, he provides a convenience to you and you use that convenience. You could easily stop using it and go back to the bookstore and go back to Target on your own. Go back to Walmart on your own. Go back to your own shopping. Like go get in your car, put your gas in, go and do it on your own. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Exactly. ApplJax: He's not doing anything but offering convenience. That's why I think some people actually deserve the money they make. They should do more with it. They should definitely do more with it. Trevor Augustus: He did. He's all he's offering a service. It's like any anytime in human history if somebody offers a service He's putting things in place for you to go use them like this like you saw like door to ash or uber eats Like I don't listen. I remember like when door dash they didn't even have McDonald's They just had like red like regular restaurants like because I and I We got together. Yeah, that's a that's a whole different topic cuz like like even years ago like ApplJax: Yeah. Trevor Augustus: We had to, we would always say like, man, I wish I can get my food from like a different restaurant. Cause it used to be just like only pizza. That was, it was pizza and that's it. All of sudden, you know, these, these apps started coming around. Yeah. Pizza in Chinese. Yeah. You know. ApplJax: Pizza and Chinese. That's the only thing people would actually be like, what do you want? Pizza or Chinese? That's the only thing that delivers. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, I was now I can't I can't imagine a world we live in where I order something and it gets here like and it takes two weeks for it to get here. Like that's that used to be the struggle. Wait in two weeks it was it was the norm and now I order some it's at my it's at my doorstep the next day. ApplJax: Well, that's how I feel when every now and then I ordered from something like Sheen or a different website and it's telling me 10 days or something like that. I'm like, what do you mean 10 days? Or also, yeah, what you mean? And then also too, like, ⁓ say, for instance, if I'm ordering something from another site and they charge me shipping, I'm so used to having Amazon Prime that I'm like sipping. I'm like, what are you? Trevor Augustus: Exactly, like, what do you mean? Yeah. What do you mean shipping and handling in tax like what? ApplJax: Yeah, it'd be funny because it's like I'm like not from this generation. I'm like, what is this shipping? I'm like, what is this you speak of? But that's what is eventually going to be it's going to be that and then eventually you're going to be like, you know, because they're already implementing in certain counties in certain states, the the drones deliveries. So eventually you're to have that everywhere. ⁓ I don't probably like in our kids like adulthood, but you know. Trevor Augustus: Great. Yeah. ApplJax: That's good. Things are just going to constantly change or convenience is to be more convenient, more convenient, going to be more expensive for the convenience. And these things were like, we do things on our own, we stop doing. And I just think as we continue to do that, people are going to find themselves when they're not able to do it one day, they're just not going to be able to take care of themselves at all. Because even me and myself sometimes I'm like, you know what, I'm going go pick up my own Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: So, I'll my own grocery shopping. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, I had to listen. I can't tell you the last time I've been inside a store to go shopping because we ordered from Walmart, Walmart Plus. Yeah. There's like a Walmart like 10 minutes from me, but I'm like, I'm ordering like this. What's the point of me going in? ApplJax: Thanks too. and he's like driving by the shopping market. Mommy, what are those people doing going inside that big building? Trevor Augustus: Right. Why are they pushing those big metal things with wheels? That's called a shopping cart. ApplJax: Yes. Those peasants are shopping for their own groceries. Trevor Augustus: You Imagine being a lion and shopping at Walmart. Couldn't be me. ApplJax: That's exactly how our kids' kids are probably gonna sell. They're probably gonna make fun of us for going grocery shopping on our own. Be like, you actually went in there and paid for your own food? Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah, you went you went in the store and pay for it you had to go walk and find it yourself what ApplJax: ⁓ my good. How many cheeses are in there? Trevor Augustus: What? So primitive. ApplJax: Hey, things are gonna get bad man. Things are gonna get real bad. But you know, it's funny because that kind of really transitions to the segment too. Which I noticed you have here the impact of social media on mental health. And so how do you, how do you, like what were your thoughts on that? Trevor Augustus: But ⁓ ⁓ have a lot of thoughts on that. I think that... I think that social media has a place. I think it has a place in society that we're able to talk about certain things and we're able to discuss certain things and have conversations and uncomfortable conversations and get people talking about topics that they normally wouldn't. And I also think that there is a, you know, another positive is being able to rekindle and find some old friends and be able to talk and chat and people that you haven't seen in years or people that you know now. And you just, can't really get to before for any reason, but I think that. I just think that there is a there's a there's a negative to every positive where It's, I think people have to remember that social media is not real. And I think sometimes we lose sight of that. There was a TV show called Swarm with Dominique, shout out to Dominique Fishback and Chloe Bailey. And the whole premise of the show was about like fandom and the dark side of fandom and how it could affect you to where it sends you down a dark path. a dark path to where you might end up taking things way too seriously and you might end up like taking it to the real life and then you end up hurting somebody that didn't need to be hurt. So I think that we can end up becoming very jaded with social media because we I think we just we sometimes we just tend to forget. ApplJax: Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: Like social media is not a real place. Sometimes people post things and it's not real. It's a way of escape. Yeah, it's a good way of escape. I think sometimes people put way too much, people put way too much stock into it because now we have like a whole generation of kids who, that's all they know. It's, I think it's, has, it has, unfortunately, it's severed a connection that I think we all used to have as people because yeah, you, we were just talking about convenience. Yeah. It's, it's, it's very convenient, but there is a dark side to, to that. And it really showed itself during the pandemic about connections and having that human connection. Now everything, now we're just connected by this. ApplJax: Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: That's all we're connected by now. You know, that's kind of, that's my quick thoughts on that. I don't know, what about you? ApplJax: Yeah, I I definitely think it's really complex just to kind of touch on the first part of what you said. ⁓ I definitely believe that social media has its purpose. But I think as imperfect humans, we tend to take things that are gifts and things that are purposeful and misuse them eventually. I do believe the early days of Facebook and maybe even I was too young for my space. I've heard a lot of things about it. And I've even heard to this day that it's still probably one of the best. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: ⁓ but. I think early days of Facebook is probably the best version of what we had of social media because it really was just more built on staying connected. And because we were so new to social media, a lot of people really wasn't following anyone you didn't know unless they were a celebrity or something that you liked or an athlete or something. Or a brand, a clothing brand or some type of brand that you liked. But other than that, for the most part, your following was just people you knew. knew closely or you knew of kind of closely. There was a time where if you asked for a girl's a number you know or you know or instagram or something she'd be like, ew no. But now you ask for it she'd be like, no but you can have my instagram. Some guy she knows he has no intentions of ever talking to but you know so and then the same thing goes but you know vice versa with both genders but Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: It's just people are no longer following people that they actually know closely. It's more like what, you know, how can I come across to not only people that I know, but people that are complete strangers so I can impress them as well. ⁓ I do think that there's a lot of good with social media even to this day. It's just that because everyone's on it, there's so much out there that there's so much to look at. There's so much to get lost and distracted by. ⁓ And there's a lot of bad influences out there. There's a lot of bad people. Because everybody now is like, before you had to kind of actually create content. Now it's just, I could just put up the camera and record, just like us, just us having a regular conversation or just doing whatever. So, and not everybody that's putting up the camera and pressing a recorder, actually good people are doing good things. And if they have a lot of following and a lot of influence, it just influences the next generation or the people that are. ⁓ consuming their content to do the wrong things and it just branches off into more and more and more. It's just like a bad mold spreading in a bag of fruit. But essentially it's just for all the youth or anyone that's, you know, exposed to this type of buffoonery or whatever it is. I do think when it comes to when you're saying it's not real, I think people tend to forget that a picture is just a moment in time. when people look at that picture that you post or that video, which is moments in that time frame, and you want to treat it as someone's entire reality, that's what can get you ⁓ really caught up. So if you're looking at a picture and group of friends or just someone's posted up by a nice car, maybe by the beach and nice resort somewhere, a nice island or whatever, that's just a moment in their time. That may not be their entire reality. You don't know what it took for them to get there or they even deserve to be there. And so when you're trying to, when you're heavily influenced by someone's moment in time and you're heavily consumed with their life and you want it to be yours and you don't even know what it took for them to get what they have or they even deserve what they have, that can really, really mess with your, your brain. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: eventually is because you'll see how hard it is to be that successful without any skill set and just place tricks on the mind, you know, there's so many young people that when they cross over like 18, 19 and 20, they feel like they're supposed to be millionaires. It's ridiculous. It's like absolutely ridiculous. The amount of people that are early 20 year olds that they're like, Oh my God, I'm nowhere I wanted to be in my life. Yeah. So was every other 20 work 21 and 22 year old, like literally. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: Like they're all in like hundreds of thousand dollars in debt from college and they don't even have the degree job that they want yet. No one in that timeframe really is like really happy. But because you're seeing some TikToker that's like 19 years old traveling the world and have millions of dollars, you think that that's supposed to be your life. And so all of a sudden you're crying and you're pouting is because you think that that's what you're supposed to have. So we were too over saturated by everybody's life. Like if we go to certain countries, there's certain things that are not even allowed to be posted. There's only like educational things that are allowed to be posted. Like certain countries have really, really strict posting laws as far as like TikTok. it's like what people are able to consume, how long they're able to consume it, turn it will turn off on them. They won't be able to come back into like a certain period of time later on. That's something that you can elect to turn on in America. But for most places that's like. You know, it's no questions asked. That's the rules for people to be able to consume social media. So I just think that there needs to be a lot more stipulations and restrictions, but you know why they won't in the United States is because all of the businesses are using social media. And the more time that these kids and people can be on social media, they're exposed to their businesses and they can spend money. so capitalism, I think really is the depressing thing to talk about. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ yeah. Because you think about like these platforms, they're like they're designed obviously to keep our attention. ⁓ But they're designed to keep our attention. Yeah, like still sell you on something or like sometimes people like will purposely make posts just to get conversations going like these like on purpose like controversial conversations like you know good and well when you hit send what ApplJax: Not necessarily social media. Mm-hmm. So they could sell us. Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: What type of reaction you're gonna get you already know? You know just just for and get is well, what's the new phrase nowadays? It's called a engagement farming You know, I think over time yeah. Yeah exactly ⁓ ApplJax: Yeah, of course. Yeah. Or or a farming. That's a man at that engagement farm. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah, that's that's like a phrase I've heard engagement farming or like or trolling or you know, whatever phrase you want to use. ⁓ Where people will like post intentionally post wild things or like wild takes just to get a conversation started. It happens with sports and music. You go all down Twitter or threads and Instagram and and you got people are people in the comments arguing amongst themselves. ApplJax: Wow. That's crazy. Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: people with no life and no job arguing about Clay Thompson and Megan Thee Stallion. Anyway, ⁓ I think that it creates a very distorted view of reality. And we start to see negativity more often than positivity. ApplJax: Crazy. Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: It's all about bad news, arguments, you said, unrealistic lifestyles. You know, we might see like our. ApplJax: Yeah, I was just looking at this one video that's called LARPing today, where, you know, essentially it's what literally, and we already know what LARPing is, live action role play, but like, as far as like what this new generation does of standing next to people's cars or putting their hands over people's steering wheels and taking a picture, acting like they're driving, flashing people's money and stuff. for the, you know, for the most part, that's what rappers do. They have to have this bodacious lavish lifestyle. Trevor Augustus: Hahaha! Yeah ApplJax: to live their lifestyle so it works for some people but for like other people that kind of get lost into that it's just so unrealistic very unrealistic Trevor Augustus: Or like the pranks. Don't you love just love the pranks that people pull? Like bro back in the day, ⁓ some of that stuff that gets you shot like, bro. ⁓ man. It'd be, it'd be funny, but I'm like, some of that stuff like a dog, you catch the wrong person on the right day. They're going to be, they're going to be saying what Biggie says is going to be some, slow singing and flower bringing. ApplJax: I do. Yeah? Trevor Augustus: Man. ApplJax: Nice little biggie reference there. Trevor Augustus: How? What's the one thing you hate about social media more than anything? ApplJax: I think people always think they're right. I hate that part. Like it could be a really nice video. It could be very encouraging. It could be informational. It could just be a chill video. Someone always like everyone can even be an increase. ⁓ my God, this is nice. There's always one person in the comments or has to go to every single comment and just argue with it. There's just a lot of miserable people and misery loves company. And so Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: I think it's just, it has so much access. I mean, not only do you have access to it, but just so many other people that are just living very miserable lives that very hateful people and really bad energy people to be around. have access to it too. And so at any moment you essentially are linking yourself to these people. And I think that's really what I hate the most about it. It's not necessarily that people always think they're right or people who want to argue, but essentially that you're linked at any time to bad people. that you don't even want to be linked to. You can like a video or comment on a video, all of a sudden you're getting notifications because of the video you liked or commented on. And now you're just linked to a bunch of other people arguing in the chat about something. So it's, you know, it's, it's really, really hard. And then one thing I will say is I used to never, ever care about comments. I used to just look at posts and scroll, look at posts. And I used to think people were kind of weird and strange for looking at the comments. And I wish I kept thinking that because All of a sudden I started checking comments and I started laughing. It's because sometimes it do be funny. And sometimes you do find some stuff that's funny. And there are some things that make the post even better. ⁓ But other times, like when you get into these comments, can, it can really get to you. Cause you're like, what? Yeah, I can drain you and like exhaust you and, and you just sit in there. Now you have this urge to kind of want to comment back. Trevor Augustus: You Dick and train you, dude. ApplJax: You can get into that. remember I got into that for a little bit where I just always felt the need where I had to after every post, I had to go to the comment section and look at it. And I always felt like and then I would sit there and comment. You know what I realized? My wife was not happy at that time at all. I was miserable. I was like a miserable person. So and I was someone that essentially didn't realize that my misery was trying to find company or I was trying to make company. And so that's what I think about with these people. I think they're really miserable people that just sit there and they find Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: ⁓ certain comments to argue about people. And I really hate that having access or being linked to these people with bad energies. It was awful. Trevor Augustus: I, yeah, I, I, I, I seen some of them, people you was arguing with. That was a funny conversation. I was like, man, listen, and you, were right. I was looking at the comments. You were right. But you know, he, couldn't let it go. He just couldn't let it go. I, know, my, my answer is very similar to yours. ⁓ it's, it's, yeah, don't get used to it. ⁓ ApplJax: Thanks. I'm just glad you said I wasn't right. But go ahead. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ The one thing I will say about social media is very much in line with what you're saying is the pair of social relationships that we see with these celebrities and like in cancel culture is what ⁓ my goodness I can't stand this crap like have you ever been like looking at a post or looking at something or on social media and somebody will make some vague comment about how, yeah, but why didn't you do so and so and so and so? And then somebody will reply back, well, what do mean, what happened? And then they'll shoot back, why you go look it up? I'm like... If you know about the situation, why don't you enlighten everybody? Why don't you tell me what's going on? I'm sorry Brenda. I don't spin it every waking minute on social media. I want every post that somebody makes. Every like, every time somebody breathes, I'm over in the comments like he's breathing, he's breathing out, he's breathing in. Like, I can't stand that bro. Like, just tell us. Like, what's going on? Like, though this is silent cancel culture like, Oh, well, why don't you go look it up? Google is free. I'm like, you're the one that made the reference. I don't know what you're talking about, bro. I'm sorry. I don't spend every second of my life on Instagram and Twitter and under every fan page, like wondering what the heck is going on. Just tell us. I can't stay in that junk. ApplJax: Yeah. I also think too, like they they don't realize that like for one I don't care about people's lives that much, dude. I don't. Unless people are out here doing some heinous stuff, I need to know about you worshiping the devil. Yeah, go ahead and tell me that. So I know. Trevor Augustus: Bro. You messing with kids go ahead let go please ApplJax: Let me know about that so I can go ahead and remove you from my playlist and everything else that has something to do with you out of my life Okay, but other than that, I don't really care too much You know, I mean if he paint his nails, I don't know that's something kind of like that's people Yeah, that's that's people I don't I don't I don't really care like but Trevor Augustus: I'm sorry. You That's whatever. Like, brother, as much as I like, know, and we're both like Kendrick and Drake fans, but like the amount of people are like, they were sitting there like, bro, do you think you actually think the man is the actual PDF file? Are we really going to sit here and do this? And I'm a hardcore Kendrick fan, but even I have the common sense to be able to separate a song. from what I actually think about a person. Do we really think Kendrick is out here smacking Whitney around when they get home? ApplJax: But we really think that Dave Free is a secretly a dad, you know, one of his kids. Trevor Augustus: Do we really think that? ApplJax: And this is this is this is actually that right there. So. And we want to go over like different rap beefs. I the last two with Drake, other than with Joe Budden, I think Joe Budden just cleaned them out with lyrics. like Joe Budden just did, Joe Budden actually beat him just without all the semantics. He was like, I'm gonna just bar you down. And that's honestly why it was such a boring and low key loss and low key win for Joe Budden. ⁓ But as far as that, the last two really played a part with social media. And that's why it's kind of kind of goes into that is because what push it to you and the whole accusation of there's a child out there. And then you have just this last one with the accusations going back and forth in that big one. Social media really plays a part as far as other people being able to manipulate each other and what they think in these comment sections and also these streamers and these YouTube reactors. but also Because we have so much access to these people's lives, we get to speculate off of what we see. So we see Kendrick as a family man, very grounded, label, like, you know, his label is everything, PG Link. ⁓ You know, he's with his cousin now, like, family's everything to him. So you can throw an accusation that possibly your manager is one of your, is actually secretly a kid to one of your children. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: or the fact that you're slapping around your wife or the fact that you took forever to actually put a ring on her finger because you like white women secretly. That's ⁓ somewhat of a clever this towards someone that is known to be married and people see him openly as a phantom man. But in terms of what we see from Drake and what he shows us, as far as even, you know, even the sexy red line was pretty funny when. When you stand in the mirror next to sexy Red, you see too. Trevor Augustus: You ApplJax: That was nice. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, that was funny. you know, the thing about it is, is because we saw that picture, so it made so much, it was funny. It was funnier to us because we actually saw that post. We have access to that post if you didn't see it. So and there's pictures out there of that. So because we have access, we're able to speculate. So for him to say. Trevor Augustus: That was the funniest line in the whole song. That drop was hilarious. ApplJax: you have another daughter out there off of, based off of the last accusation, how you live your lifestyle or the fact that you and your mans could be doing things that are mischievous to minors based on the lifestyle that you live and the things that you've done for other Disney stars or whatever for your shows or whatever history you have and the things that we've seen, people are able now to just believe with anything. And that's what I think also too, what J. Cole means by the whole algorithm thing. I don't necessarily think that Kendrick Lamar has anything to do with that, but as far as, I'm not sure about his team, but I won't put that on Kendrick Lamar. What I do believe is that there's people out there that will sit there and take it upon themselves to do that. It's because now you have access to manipulate people's thinking and curate a narrative and hold it strong as long as you can get the majority to think that. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, I mean I also and and y'all we no matter what happens we always need to come back to drinking can drink but ApplJax: ⁓ I was thinking that too. I was thinking that every episode. We said we're gonna have a Kendrick and Drake episode in every episode since we've started and we've talked about Trevor Augustus: We literally are having every episode. I think social media does play a major part, like you said, because that's the reason Drake won his beef with Meek Mill. We're talking about actual bars. Meek Mill won that battle, but Drake won because of social media. And that's why it was so refreshing to see him, like ⁓ Kendrick said, antics, they're not going to save you. ApplJax: Mm-hmm. Trevor Augustus: because you can't use social media like how he used to use social media. I think as much as I think it was, I do think it was social media that played a role. I also want to add to that. I think that like you said, they were, I don't know if necessarily people believe the accusations. You might if you spend your time in a basement and that's all you know and that's all you care about. But I think they were just enough ApplJax: Exactly. Trevor Augustus: breadcrumbs to where we can see Drake maybe doing that. You know what saying? There is... ApplJax: There was a lot of those Twitter lawyers too, those little armchair detectives that make those videos as well. It has a lot to do with social media. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. a lot to do with social media we've seen on the other side we've seen people making AI AI pictures of Whitney with a black eye like Kendrick is in there or that they're taking a picture of her the red carpet or some kind of red carpet premiere and they're trying to zoom in and make sure she don't have like her eyes in purple and I'm like bro are we serious like bro what are we doing like like I'm like bro I'm like ApplJax: Mm-hmm. ⁓ my god. Trevor Augustus: It's that deep. Like you do realize you can listen to Drake and Kendrick. It's okay. ApplJax: Okay guys. Trevor Augustus: It's okay. It's no, no more is like, bro. Kendrick does not know you exist. Drake does not know that you exist. ApplJax: Dude, that's what I'd be saying to these people. They don't even know that you're taking a breath right now. They don't even know that you ever walk the earth. Trevor Augustus: Bro, they don't care. Bro, they don't care. They don't know you. They don't know. Exactly you over here are you gonna defending their honor? They're going back into their dog on 18 bedroom mansion Watching their their 70 inch flat-screen TV laughing, bro Like it's this is really it's really not that it's not that serious ApplJax: It's crazy. What really is it? Trevor Augustus: But like I said, I think that there were just enough breadcrumbs where people might believe like another funny line was in Family Matters when Drake said, when you hit your girl, is it self-defense because she bigger than you? That junkhead crying. ApplJax: And Family Matters, it still comes up in my playlist at the gym where I work and it's such a good song. I know you don't like that he addressed a bunch of people when you wanted him to just keep it at Kendrick, but I like that song a lot. Trevor Augustus: Bad junkhead. Right. Listen no, it's a good song just not for a beef Like it's a in the ApplJax: I thought so. Because you know what, I was listening to it after you said that and I was thinking, was like, OK, so he addresses Kendrick in the first part. He takes an interlude to get his stuff off about other people that has a name in his mouth that essentially wanted to now speak up because Kendrick had dissed him and and because Metro was going back and forth with him on Twitter. And so he got that out the way. And then he went back to a third part, a third beat switch up to go back to Kendrick to address him again. And he was coming strong on the third part. So I really like Family Matters. I think he really, like he really, that was, to be honest, I think if you really want to be honest. Family Matters, not like us, before not like us, Family Matters was the best song, sounding song in the beat. And then you had Euphoria. Euphoria took two minutes for Euphoria to finally get there. Euphoria was nice, but it took him like, Like, that's the thing, when I first listened to Euphoria, oh my goodness. Trevor Augustus: Euphoria. ApplJax: Dude, I was at the edge of my seat, with my earbuds on, I was Trevor Augustus: Bro my phone was like blowing up. I want to go do something downstairs and I'm like, what the heck going on? My phone blowing up. Everybody's like, yo Kendrick drop Kendrick drop, bro. I'm like jumping around. bro. ApplJax: No. Dude, those days were crazy. Those days were crazy back before we came between Kendrick and Drake. Trevor Augustus: Well, you talking about like he took two minutes to start, but Drake took like two minutes to actually address Kendrick. ApplJax: But people forget, and this is the thing, you know what's funny? We're gonna finish every episode going back and forth on Kendrick. Trevor Augustus: We gonna finish it. We are. Bro, we gonna do this every episode. ApplJax: This is thing, and this is the thing I don't like that people always say that. It's because the thing about Drake is people forget he was going to retire. That was his last album. He wore everybody. He even said, would be my, I'm going go ahead and put it. I'm not going to retire, but I'm going to take a rest. No, but he said he was going to take a break. And even everybody was like, yo, go ahead and take your break. You you've been putting on music for 10 seasons straight. Go ahead and just, or 10 summers straight. Go ahead and just take a break. Take a break. Trevor Augustus: Drake was not retiring, bro. ApplJax: And I think a lot of us were kind of like just wanting it. Cause you know, it's like, all right, let us miss you. Cause you know what you were saying that staying power, I there were one of the things that we should have put in there is just that like, do I miss you? like, you know how sometimes we'd be like, yo, when are you gonna drop again? I wish this person would drop again. Like, and I think that kind of is along with staying power. But I think we were, we were getting that sense where like, all right, let us miss you again. And then he, he dropped. for all the dogs wasn't as great as what we thought he put, know, Joe Budden was on it, you know, on them about it. So what did he do? He put on for all the dogs, scary hours three phenomenal EP. I think all six songs were actually like some of his greatest work. And if we could have got like a 10 song album, just like that, think we would have had no problem. But you know, after that, he went out, he goes on tour. So we're kind of expecting him to go on tour. He's gonna be on tour for a year and a half. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah. ApplJax: He was still just on tour. he, just came back like, I want to say maybe six, seven months ago, maybe even a lot sooner or something like that. So it was like, we kind of expected him to go on a tour. He was going on a couple of tours. He was going on like a U S tour, then like a worldwide tour and a couple other little like Caribbean tours or whatever. He was going to do his thing. And so he was in the middle of being on tour with J Cole and you guys are expecting him to like try to respond. We got low on, know, Trevor Augustus: I mean, he didn't have to respond. ApplJax: He did it. But he did. But then y'all gonna complain and say, he took two months. He two months. Trevor Augustus: First of all, they've been throwing shots at each other for years. Now why you wanna respond now? ApplJax: This is the thing, I think that... This is the thing about us short people, I'm gonna talk for Kendrick real quick. I think when Kendrick saw that light-skinned man put fake abs on his body, said, ⁓ he could be tall, but he can't be pretty. I think that's when he got upset. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ I mean Megan said something about it first though. Megan did. Yeah. ApplJax: Who? Is fake ass? Megan, I was gonna say something, let me not get cancelled. Trevor Augustus: Don't do it. ApplJax: Well, this is not the mud. ⁓ yeah. I'm going to leave that situation alone. Trevor Augustus: Listen I ain't got the water hose I mean, was she wrong though? And what she said? The man used the ad machine, bruh. ApplJax: Now it was a close. I don't even remember what she said about him, or if I even know. Trevor Augustus: She said something to the effect of like something to do with like his abs or something like that or surgery or whatever she said but it was about him like with the whole ab thing. ApplJax: ⁓ I feel like as far as the whole fake app thing, I don't like when people do that. I think you could be fit and not have apps. You could be very conditioned. think apps are strictly for people that are extremely disciplined. You're only going to get apps if you're disciplined. You have the same routine every single day. You stick to it no matter what. You don't let anybody take you away from that. You can't buy that. Once you go buy that, I think you're kind of like It does lose a lot of respect for some people, those that may, you don't even have that. I don't even have abs. I've been trying to get abs for a minute. I'm not going to have them for a while. I'll tell you that right now. And I'm not disciplined enough, but I know what it takes for me to have it. I would never go out my way and spend money to go buy it. I just can never see that. I mean, I could see how that upsets people or makes people feel a little iffy or they want to demasculate him for that. I would never demasculate anybody for anything. think that's worth demasculating anybody for, but I can see why people are turning to go that route. But you know, I think it kind of goes back into what you said a little earlier. think if we could kind of stop focusing on the person, just really focus on the art, I think we can kind of get back into some really good music, or at least being able to focus on really good music. So we'll see what type of album he drops. I am looking forward to that big Sean project though. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah. And listen, when Drake drops Iceman, I'ma listen. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's not that serious. I'ma listen, like, you know. ApplJax: I think we all are. I think we all are. Mind you that that last album for some sex or some sex is was it some sexy love songs for you. I think it's what it's called. Um, that was a really great album that has replay value. I thought that was great. It wasn't just because party next door is on there. I think Drake had a lot of main or bigger parts or bigger roles in those songs. So I heavily anticipate this album. I need new good hip hop music. I was very surprised by what we got from Kanye. Thank you, Kanye. Well produced, really good. A lot of his songs, I kind of listened to them not instrumental, just a freestyle, because that album was like a classic 808 Kanye, boom-back Kanye. That was such a, it was tough. It was really good, well produced. Not all the songs were great, but I mean, there was some really good stuff in there. But I'm just, I need some, I need some bars, I need a little bit of hype music, I need some for the gym, I need some for, give me some. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: Caribbean and wine music, give me some, know, give me some, you know, crying in the rain, shawty got my heart broken type music. I'm happy right now. Me and my girl happy, but still get that to me. Still, I still need it. I'm light skin. I... Trevor Augustus: ⁓ I want it. No. We need we need bars, bro. I don't want to hear about you about some girl that you lost Some of you crying in the rain and you don't left you Like we don't need that. We've been getting that Drake for years. We've been getting Caribbean fake accent Drake for years. We need bars What he did on what he did on scary hours three Listen what he did on scary hours three for all the dogs. That's I need I need him in conductor ApplJax: You know what? I agree with him. I agree with him. Hey, Shiloh. Shiloh, I have a fake accent. Hmm? Yeah that's what we need. Yeah that's what we need. That's what we need. Trevor Augustus: Him and conductor and I in the studio and just go. That's what I need. Yes. ApplJax: And Alchemist, if we can get Alkin there. If we can get Alkin there too. If we can get Alkin there. Yeah, but you know what? You know what it is? I heard he scratched all his club songs. Maybe he's like, you know what? I need to stop playing with these boys. That's all I hope for. That's all I hope for. I hope he says, you know what? I see when Big Sean's coming out, let me let him do that. You know what I mean? Trevor Augustus: That's what I need from Drake. About time! ApplJax: So, and maybe he knows who else is about to come out. He's like, let me let them do that. Come out with the bars, man. Bars that leave us in the stars, Trevor Augustus: Imagine if like Kendrick drops that album the same day. you ApplJax: As a hip-hop fan, no, a hip-hop fan, I'd be mad. I'd be mad. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, I'd be kinda pissed. I'd be laughing, but I'd be pissed. ApplJax: Cause you're not allowing, you're not allowing a cause cause at that point I'd be like Kendrick, you, you, you, you claim to be this peaceful guy or this like this, this, this lovey dovey guy. But now you're like going out of your way to troll. Mind you, you came out of the woodworks for being quiet for two years to diss him and J Cole for no reason, just because they left you off the first person shooter. So it's like, or just because they mentioned themselves as top three, not, not left him out, not left them out, but he, they mentioned themselves as not, not. Trevor Augustus: No he didn't. No he didn't. ApplJax: top three or top two, whatever they said on the song. So it's like, I know why you was feeling funky and you wanted to finally come out and start saying some stuff. And you was trying to break out into the PDE. I know Whitney put you on a curfew and all, but dang, Like, come on, Dang. Sorry, Mr. Lamar. Dang. But you know, it's... Trevor Augustus: I'll stop it. I'll stop it. ⁓ stop it, you alright? He just met, he just met the family matters got stomped on by meet the grams. That's all it is guys. ApplJax: No, no, but all jokes aside, and I ain't trying to mention your man's wife, you know, all jokes aside, because I know I don't want him dissing us. I don't want him dissing us. Trevor Augustus: Hey listen, you better go on YouTube and say meet the Johnson's ApplJax: Yeah, for real. Yeah, leave me alone. I don't got the money and production money for all that. You're have you're gonna have me you have me responded off of an Android phone. That's all you gonna hear me. You're gonna hear me in my closet. Yeah, that's all you gonna hear. But anyway, I don't know what I gonna say. I totally lost my train of thought. Trevor Augustus: You Hey, who's there? ⁓ Yeah, you know what, let's just go ahead. Let's just go ahead and end it like that. We'll just go ahead and it, man. ApplJax: Yeah, just go ahead. ⁓ no, but what I was gonna say, I just hope that really doesn't happen is because that wouldn't allow hip hop fans to be able to take in both albums and really kind of really take their time with both projects and value for what they are. And I know that Drake and Kendrick both acknowledge that most of their fans are fans of both. So. You you're going to have your stands. You always going to have your stands and the stands are essentially what keeps the tickets always sold out. But I mean, most, think both of them understand. even J Cole, J Cole understands a lot of his fans are also fans of both of those guys as well. So I hope they all drop at a reasonable time because we're also expecting a Kendrick Lamar album too. He dropped that GNN EP and then we were supposed to get an album from him. So I was kind of expecting in 2025, a Drake album in October. Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ApplJax: And I was also expecting Kendrick Lamar to kind of follow up, follow up probably with like a December, January. I still do think that Kendrick's going to drop closely behind him though. Of course. I think so. I just don't think the same week. I don't think the same week. I think he'll do something like a week before a week after. Trevor Augustus: Yeah, he might. I don't, I think he might let it breathe. I was like, I don't think he's that petty. Even though I think he's also, listen, he's claimed that he's peaceful, but he's also said he's not perfect. So it was not out of the realm of possibility that he dropped the same day. I would laugh my butt ApplJax: I do. This man say good kid, This man say good kid, Madison. That's all. Trevor Augustus: I would laugh my behind off if he dropped the same day. That would be so hilarious. ApplJax: I would delete, I would delete moth. I would delete everything. Trevor Augustus: Bro, that's a level of pity I aspire to be. ApplJax: I ain't gonna lie right now that happens I'm changing the country music bro. I ain't never coming back Trevor Augustus: Well... He's like, buddy changed it. Sure, I already listen to country. I already do. I like, ⁓ ApplJax: I ain't never coming back. What you listen to these days? What you do? What you listen to? You look like, ⁓ what's his name? Shabu? Or whatever his name is? Trevor Augustus: It's Shaboosie. ApplJax: Shaboosie. Trevor Augustus: ⁓ my good lord. ApplJax: Go ahead. Trevor Augustus: but yeah, man, ⁓ I meant to I'm in all types of country. mean Old school country kind of like this newer modern country it's not like that many songs but like I like the really really old stuff like hank williams and then like johnny johnny cash and ⁓ like merle haggard and stuff like that wailin jennings Even some of the newer guys too like obviously like ApplJax: Okay. Trevor Augustus: Blake Shelton in Florida Georgia line and and ⁓ and ⁓ who else and Darius Rucker ⁓ just just to name a few yeah ApplJax: I only heard three names I know so that's how know you really listen to country music. That's Good for you, I'm tapped in bro. Okay. I listen to metal rock Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah, I'm definitely, I'm definitely tapped there. Oh yeah, I got a whole... freaking... 40... Oh, you don't? Oh ApplJax: This is Plank. ⁓ it's just Plank. No. But you listen to Metal Rock? Come on, you listen to- ⁓ my god! Trevor Augustus: Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do actually. ApplJax: Hey, well, you know what? This man's a producer, so he listens to everything. He got to. That's how you sample. If you ever listen to that Wu-Tang or watch that Wu-Tang show, kind of see how you got into it. Listen to all different types of stuff. Trevor Augustus: I'm the producer. I don't know, I just rap, I don't produce. ApplJax: Alright, kickin freestyle real quick. Let's Let's see if you can freestyle. Dang. I'm not a freestyler because my style ain't free. Trevor Augustus: I can't freestyle. ⁓ I'm not a freestyler. Don't judge me. ApplJax: I knocked asleep, honestly pissed him up. I was about to say something crazy. Trevor Augustus: That's all you got? No, you wouldn't anyway Listen man, this has been really fun For real listen, man, this has been fun guys, man. This has been another episode of the it's been a minute podcast I'm your host Trevor Augustus and once again my partner in crime to the left for however you're viewing this podcast It's angus aj johnson, man. There's a that is another one in the books guys. Thank you so much for watching and listening ApplJax: No, no, wasn't. Not really what? We ain't dragged the last 10 minutes of this. Trevor Augustus: Peace. ApplJax: Peace, see ya!