Trevor Augustus: back. We'll get back. Ladies and gentlemen, episode 15 of the It's Been A Minute podcast. I'm your host. Y'all know me, Trevor Augustus and my partner in crime to the left of my screen or however viewing this podcast is Angus AJ Johnson. What it do, baby?

Angus: I What's going on, baby? How we doing? Back at another one.

Trevor Augustus: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We are back, man. Episode 15. Ready to get a good episode in for you guys. Any shout outs you want to give this week or no?

Angus: Man, I did have a shout out. ⁓ Shout out to Tequila Reposado. is any tequila reposado. It's sponsoring this episode right now. Appreciate it to you guys. It's an unpaid sponsor. Still looking for that.

Trevor Augustus: I'm paid hopefully to be paid one of these days.

Angus: Now I'm gonna shout out something. Shout out my sister on her new assignment. The happy, the family's proud of you. See, there goes that tequila already hit me. That the family is very, very proud of you and we love you. Senator, our love from here to New York. Shout out to you, Asia.

Trevor Augustus: of the Asian. Before we get any further, I want to remind everybody as I do every week, please like, share and subscribe to the pod. We are on Spotify, we are on Apple, we are on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts from. Tell everybody, you know, to watch the show and listen. We appreciate your listening ears, your watchful eyes. ⁓ As we did last week, we are kind of taking a break from the sports talk a little bit, but we can. before we kind of get in the meat of the show. Since we are in the greater Orlando area, the Orlando Magic Man. Just before we get into any of that, we're gonna discuss the playoffs probably later on when we get towards like maybe the both conference finals. The closer we get to the finals, we'll probably discuss the playoffs more just so we can kind of get a sense of who's and what. Bro, the magic.

Angus: was disappointing. It was it was at the time where I was like, you know what, because I'm not a Magic fan, even though I live in Orlando. But I was like, you know, I'll go for the magic. They've been turning around for the last few years. They've been trying to become a competitive team. They've been a playoff team. Maybe this is the year I know they had a rocky year. I thought they were gonna be really good this year, but they had another rocky year because they finally brought it back together, made something happen, gotten to the play, got to the playoffs. It's to see another 3-1 defeat. And it's crazy because before LeBron did it with the Warriors, it's like, I've never seen it happen so many times. And mind you, before LeBron did that to the Warriors, the Warriors did that to OKC. So like I just I haven't seen that happen as much. You know, when we were growing up, coming down from 3-1 or even 3-0 or 2-0 was kind of like, yeah, you were looking for a gentleman's suite just so you could have your pride.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: you want vacation. So it's like, now it's meant to see that it actually really is possible if you have the grit, the will, you have enough skill, and your bench is healthy enough and you guys don't lose yourself mentally. It's possible to come back from three one. So that was really, really disappointing. mean, I will being that I'm from Toledo, 35 minutes away from Detroit, I like seeing them first seed this year and they look

Trevor Augustus: You

Angus: great. So shout out to Detroit. Shout out to the Detroit Pistons. It's good to see Kade back healthy and for him to make that comeback. He looked great. you know, they it was it was very, very disappointing, man. So imagine right as I just was like, you know what, I'll go for them. I'll go for them. And then then that happened. I was just like, Are you kidding me? Ridiculous.

Trevor Augustus: I don't know why, like this year just, this year just kind of felt different. And like, I didn't really expect us to really, cause I'm more of a Magic fan than you are, but I didn't really, I didn't really expect much. But as soon as we went up to one, I'm like, ⁓ snap, we can actually do this. I mean, we were like, and I wouldn't just like some normal like game where we was putting belt.

Angus: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Trevor Augustus: Like literally we was putting belt to Detroit. I'm like, okay. All right. When I'm three one, I'm like, okay, bet. All right. Game six happens. I'm like, okay. Well, no game five happens. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay, fine. Whatever it happened. Let's just close that on game six. Like game six happens. It's like 71, 54 in the third quarter. And then the bottom just falls out. Like

Angus: Yeah. You

Trevor Augustus: I just, don't like what was it like 23 missed field goals. That's like the most of the playoff team ever. Like,

Angus: Great. I think they didn't score for like 11 minutes or something like that. Oh, that was crazy. Maybe like six and a half to 11 minutes something within that. That was insane. I think it was between two different quarters.

Trevor Augustus: I think the actual time they said it was like 45 minutes between a basket. Like they literally they like they literally had like I think it was 71 points and then by the by the time Detroit it came back. They had only ended up with like 79 points. This is a this is a professional basketball team mind you. Like what do we do?

Angus: Yeah, something like that. You know what's crazy is that, They just fired the coach and you know, think that's about to be blown up. There's a lot of good talent on that team, but there's also just not enough at the same time. And it's a lot of inconsistent talent. I love to see Palo taking a lot of accountability. It shows that he's here to stay and continue to grow. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he eventually expires for trade, if not leaves. So, you know, he has so much potential. He just needs to stay healthy.

Trevor Augustus: As they should.

Angus: But it's people like Stephen Curry, was hurt early in their career, like Griffin, other people. Joel and B just playing amazing right now while he has no knees. So people that have these like really rocky careers are still able to make something out of it. ⁓ But it would be nice to see him take that next step.

Trevor Augustus: I just, want him to, I want him to evolve his game, bro. Like he needs to evolve a little bit. Like he's, he, he plays like, he plays like he's smaller than what he is. Like, he's huge.

Angus: Yeah, it is. Exactly. He's big, man. He needs to play that way. Dude, they used to call him LeBron. They call him like the Puerto Rican LeBron. He's the same size. He's built just like LeBron. He's the same size. And he has the same, he has better handles, to be honest. And he could drive just as well. just think he's very inconsistent and gets hurt. And you know that plays a lot of part in being inconsistent is having injuries. It's hard for you to continue.

Trevor Augustus: He's built like LeBron here.

Angus: So the thing about it is when you're spending your off seasons healing instead of working on your game, that's when you're not able to progress and you're essentially stuck in this rut. know where I think someone that I didn't get enough credit to, and I think someone that has built his game very well is Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum to me is like almost, his game is so fluid, it's very nice.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: ⁓ and he's grown to, he's definitely gotten taller and, that's what I think Paulo not essentially could play like, but aspire his progression. Like, whereas Jason came, Jason Tatum came in the game kind of like with this nice raw talent. And now he's just extremely developed and even coming back from injury, he looked great. So, ⁓ you know, just to bring it back on top, it was very, very disappointed. Cause you know what, when they went up three, one, I was like, hold up. I think they can do this. And I was like, I think they can easily go to the Eastern Conference finals because they, I think they could beat the Cavs. If they would have beat the Detroit Pistons, I think they could have beat the Cavs. could have, they could have at least took the Cavs to game six or seven. I think they would have beat the Cavs. And then if not Toronto at that time too. ⁓ And then to be honest, I had Orlando beating.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah.

Angus: I have them beating Philadelphia, I'm not sure about New York, but I have them beating Philadelphia. So it was a real opportunity for them really to kind of make their way all the way to the finals. But you know, that's why play in teams are teams, man.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, that's why they were the AC because they inconsistent and I think Like this is really a case where Paolo needs help Like Jay Jalen's is not the answer At point go. I don't know what don't know what he'd be doing then Wagner I feel like if we had Wagner in the starting lineup, we probably would have like closed it out But Wagner was hurt It's like you ⁓ need talent surrounding like that game seven

Angus: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: Banchero had what, like 38 points? Some crazy stat. So it's not like you can't score. It's just you need, definitely need people around you. Desmond Mayne, if he can just stay consistent like he's been doing the whole season, yeah, I can see that. But we need a guard. We need somebody ⁓ ⁓ facilitate and we need defense.

Angus: You who would actually been a perfect person? I can see being put in a trade package for him or a Suggs of Well Nail Carter. Because you know who's also looking for a trade. I'm not sure if they already traded him. think they already did they trade Anthony Davis already?

Trevor Augustus: I think they were talking about it.

Angus: I'm saying put I would I would trade for draft picks and a couple different picks for Anthony Davis and Trey Young to seven to Orlando Anthony Davis is already kind of like older he's hurt but he still has enough talent when he's healthy ⁓ it gives you size and that lot of threat and that defensive threat inside whenever he's healthy and then I would have Trey Young if anything go get Trey Young I think Trey Young fits very perfectly in that system especially next to Franz Desmond Bain and Palo but you need like a true guard you need like an actual true guard for that team because you have the scores like you said Palo finishing high in points in game seven it's you you have the skill set there it's just man you need a facilitator like you said you need an actual general because you know what's one thing about Orlando Magic and I actually thought this before someone else told me this already was that I'm not sure if I lost connection instead connecting.

Trevor Augustus: I can still see you.

Angus: You can still see me awesome, awesome. before I thought this before I heard this the other day and someone literally said the magic or no for just taking really bad shots. They just take a lot of bad shots throughout the game. There's no one on the court that's actually really kind of really having that on court general on court coach or someone that's keeping them put together. It's just a lot of ice so ball or just kind of bad shots and fast breaking and.

Trevor Augustus: Yes. Yes.

Angus: They just need more structure. That's exactly why the coach got fired. Because it's like this is the second time this has happened.

Trevor Augustus: I can't, I've seen like, I got so many times, especially like in game six, when the one destroyed was starting to come back. I'm like, listen, all y'all gotta do is, is do your offense, let the clock run down. It's a simple philosophy. Y'all was up like 20 something points, but then like he'll bring it down the court and he'll make like one pass and I'll take a, take an ill of a shot. And then Detroit and they're a younger team too. They're running, they're running up and down the court.

Angus: Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: You know, Tobias Harris is he's balling out of his mind and then K like, I don't know why they put bank Carol and K that's a mismatch before you knew it. Like it, it got down to like three points. I'm like, boy, here we go. Man.

Angus: Yeah. Yeah, same old, same old man. I how feel. My boys were knocked out in the play-in. And we talked about that a couple episodes ago. And you know, like you said, we weren't trying to get into too much sports. So we'll revisit this because there's a lot of sports to go over. I mean, we the NFL draft coming up. We definitely want to go over or not the NFL. I'm sorry, the NBA draft, but the NFL draft has just passed by. We definitely want to cut.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: You know go over some of those draft picks and some steals for some of these teams and what will bring that to you guys the attention soon We also want to address the NBA draft came coming up soon and then you know that ⁓ Trevor is more bigger on the college side college side of sports, so We'll be able to get some insight of who he thinks would make it will be a good steal and also ⁓ who's may possibly be a bust, someone that should have dropped someone that maybe should have been higher. You know, we may get a Dion to go draft, mock draft. That actually may be nice. We may need an annual mock draft from our board. got a male Kiper in the building right now. Hey, we got the dark skin male Kiper. That's what I'm calling you. Male Kiper.

Trevor Augustus: Again, not the milk, hi, fruit. Call me Macaw, Pfeiffer.

Angus: Yeah, man, so we will definitely address some sports for you guys. then, you know, what I definitely want to go over maybe is the end of a dynasty because there's not too many dynasties in sports right now. There's a few, but one dynasty that's officially may have coming to an end is the Golden State Warriors. It hasn't been coming to a trail and for the last few years, that is my dear team that has been my team. Before Curry days, I was a huge Monte Ellis fan. was a huge Baron Davis fan, huge Matt Barnes, Steven Jackson, Andre Carolenko, AK-47 fan, Jared Jack, ⁓ Steven Jackson, David Lee before the injury. Like I'm a huge Golden State Warriors fan. ⁓ Jason Richardson, Alonzo Bourne. Like it goes on and on. it's like, ⁓ You know, we'll definitely come back to sports, but Trev, go ahead and take over so we can get into this episode.

Trevor Augustus: All right, man. I had this like this, well, not really a discussion, but I'm just thinking about like, I see certain people that are of a certain generation, whether it's old or young, first before we even get into that, what do you think is the biggest... misconception when it comes to people in our generation. Cause I seen a post on Instagram that it was, it was so crazy to me. There was a picture of like Blockbuster and all the comments. And I think even the caption was like, yeah, Gen Z don't know what this is like. And I can't help but think to myself, I'm like, yeah, dude, like, what do you mean? Like I've seen people. Like I've like posts about phone books and people are like, ⁓ yeah, Gen Z would know nothing about that. Yeah, yeah, I remember phone books. I remember pay phones. I remember phone books. I remember, Doug, when you had to like, when we didn't have Spotify and we didn't have Apple Music and stuff like that, where do you think is the biggest like misconception when it comes to people in our generation are a little older?

Angus: That's a great question. ⁓ before I answer the question, I just want to go back a couple of seconds. I said Alonzo Mourning. I meant to say Tim Hardaway, before you guys canceled me. ⁓ To go back to answer the question, that's a great question. And to answer that question, first of all, I just kind of want to really ⁓ touch on a few things before I go into that. Because that's a really great question. And what I really wanted to touch on, one, is people forget that your really biggest influence is which every year was your parents teenage years or whichever was their peak years. So if your parents are at 90s or like their 90s was when they went through their teenager adulthood, like their early 20s, if the 80s or 70s was that time, that's your influence. That's the things that you come up off of is because the peak

Trevor Augustus: video.

Angus: years of your parents years are going to be what they show you the most. That's their most live years. So for me personally, being raised by young parents, my parents had me at 19 and 18. They were born in 79. That means they graduated high school in the 90s and they went through their teenage and early 20s around 98 and through the early 2000s. So the interest that they had at that time being that they were young adults, is what I grew up off of. And that's just what's going to be. That's just always being for anyone else. Like the interest that your parents grew off of or grew upon, that's what they're going to instill in you is because the things that people like the most is what they pass on to the people that they love. So, I mean, I was grown, I grew up off of 90s culture. French Prince, Saved by the Bell, Martin, ⁓ Boy Meets World, ⁓

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: Steve Harvey show. Like the list goes on and on. Golden Girls. Like the list goes on and on and on and on and on. I remember when the, and this is to go more into what he was saying, Trev, I remember when the iPod Touch was a little square and it had a little circle and it had volume plus and minus and then up and down, right? And then I remember it turned into a little clip and it had a screen on it you could slide on it.

Trevor Augustus: Yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Angus: This was my elementary years. And then the next year turned into a a little square thing, a little long square rectangular where I had a screen up the top and then you can, and you can spin and dial. And you know what that looks like now? That's the Apple TV remote. Y'all don't know nothing about that. Y'all don't know nothing about that. That's the, yeah, exactly. Please, please. Cause that's Gen Z. We've been around. I mean, we, we watched, I remember my mom had a sidekick, ⁓

Trevor Augustus: Yep. Yep. You Don't let that go over your head now. Drop a note.

Angus: And all that different types of stuff. I remember her having a Blackberry phone with the kick up and everything. I remember when the first iPod touch came out, the first screen where you can load up your music and you had like a little actual like an app interface page. And then the very next year that turned into the first iPhone touch and an iPhone screen to compete with Blackberry at that time, because Blackberry was getting pretty creative. They was Blackberry. We grew up Blackberry was fun. Blackberry was.

Trevor Augustus: Mm-hmm. Blackberry's good, but everybody.

Angus: Exactly. For real. For real. Watch the Blackberry movie. That's a really good movie out there. ⁓ But yeah, I mean, just to answer the question after really touching all that stuff, I really do think that the biggest misconception is that they think that we don't know what outside looks like. they think that we were not the last generation to be outside that or we are the last generation to be outside. Correction. They're not millennials are not the last generation. It is. Jen, I would say Jen Alpha. I would say Jen Alpha barely goes outside anymore. I mean, you may see kids. You may see kids. Outside here and there, but I really don't. I really don't. And it's honestly not the safest world anymore to really be playing outside anymore. But it's just I but if you if you walk in a neighborhood, you don't even hear them playing in the backyard. You know what mean? So we were when we got home.

Trevor Augustus: They don't at all. It's really nice. Yeah.

Angus: And then the thing about me and Trevor, and it's funny, because we were on the phone talking about this earlier today, dude, we used to be playing on that TV for like 10 hours playing Madden 2K, but that was after we already were outside playing Madden and basketball. You know what mean? Like real football and basketball. That was our generation. think people think we weren't outside, but we were like the crossover. Like we were outside and then we watched things turn. Like I remember when YouTube first came out. I remember wanting to come home.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah.

Angus: and actually look up at Bassmaster prank videos and other little things like, you know, like I remember all different types of things. Me and my family sit there, watch around the table. We watch these prank videos and laugh. Now we have group chats where we send each other memes. It's the same thing. ⁓ yeah, I mean, they don't give us enough credit for being in tune with society, being in tune with like culture and understanding that we know what outside looks like. We not know iPad kids. That's Gen A.

Trevor Augustus: Listen, I remember you put me onto that. ⁓ what's that guy that they used to dance with the dubstep in the background nonstop You're the one to put me on to let that guy Pop like it was a dubstep. Yeah, like like him a rap music like that was like that old the old like old days of like YouTube or You know, it wasn't no streaming. It wasn't like mr. Beast and Logan Paul and Jake Paul and speed

Angus: Non-stop. Yeah, late twins too. Yeah. Dude, remember Mr. Beast's old videos, bro. remember he was a dude. He would literally go and get pennies and fill backyards full of pennies just to do crazy videos. He would go get he would like withdraw them and try to say he was like today I'm going to try to fill my friends father's ⁓ backyard with pennies and I'm going to surprise him and tell him he can have all of them. He's been doing that, bro. He's been giving people money. He's been doing that. So

Trevor Augustus: Yes, exactly! Yes.

Angus: Yo, it's Mr. Beast is it's it's crazy like his growth is we've been watching this stuff, man. It's been insane. And we're I'm 27 about to be 28 in July. So it's like, we've been watching this for almost like 1720 years now.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah, I'm 27. I'm going to be 28 in October. So like, know exactly like what, like what he's saying guys is it's true. Like I said earlier, like I know what blockbuster is like before, but before there was Netflix. Listen, I remember when Netflix first started came out and they were like sending people DVDs. You could order DVDs from Netflix and then you had to send it, send it back like a day later or so you will order what you want. And then you get to send it back in the mail.

Angus: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Trevor Augustus: before they ever started streaming. Like, come on, Come on,

Angus: For sure. I remember when I remember when Redbox put Blockbuster officially out of business. When Redbox started showing up on every 7-Eleven and Walmart corner and people were going out to get rentals for a dollar a night, a dollar a night. And we would put it in the new PS3 Blu-ray that just came out at that time. Bro, people don't know, bro. People don't understand, man. And you know what's crazy? I think

Trevor Augustus: Yes, I... yep. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. A dollar, bruh.

Angus: Another big misconception is they feel like we don't understand this stuff because while this was going on, we were children. And I think they really misconceive how much children actually pay attention to things and how they retain it for later on for their own life experiences. So at the end of the day, we listen to our parents talk about their childhood all the time and the things that happened when they were kids and with their parents. So why don't you think that we're going to retain and keep the same information for ourselves as experiences to share later on? So I really do think that they, we were like, they think that we were ignorant and naive to everything that was going on through this change in society. And so for them, because they were a little older, like the millennials, they were in their twenties and, and maybe their teenage years, and they were able to actually experience a lot of this stuff. Like some of them were coming, being 10 to 13 years old with like MySpaces and AOLs and all of a sudden they're like, I remember when it went from AOL to Yahoo, I had an AOL email. I had a AOL email and then I had a Yahoo email. man, people don't understand, man. I remember Disney games, Yahoo games, Disney games, cool math games, Disney XD. Like, bro, me and my sister, me and my sister used a Nickelodeon game, bro. Like religiously, we used to be on that computer after school. And then, you know, it's funny because then my mom was like,

Trevor Augustus: Remember the Yahoo games? The Yahoo games too? Disney games? yes!

Angus: You you guys used to be outside, know, and I know it was on YouTube and stuff like that. And so then they started locking the computer and we were like, all right, so we can go back outside.

Trevor Augustus: You

Angus: You go back outside, know what

Trevor Augustus: Like, bro, that's, bro, my core memories are like being outside playing football. Remember like, remember the first, not the, no, not the first house that y'all were in. The second house that was like, I think the one your grandma had and y'all took over the lease. I think it was something like that. And it was like me, you and Jalen were out there throwing water balloons at cars.

Angus: Yeah. Yeah, ⁓ yeah.

Trevor Augustus: Memories extra my brain like listen statue limitations is over with guys. This was years ago We were like climb that we were climb the tree and like but we like one day I came over and y'all had these like balloons and we were we were throwing throwing them at each other and then we were like, let's start throwing the cars and then I Don't know I don't know who threw it

Angus: Yo, remember that, that's crazy. Yo, that's insane. What were we doing? Yo, that was insane.

Trevor Augustus: But one car actually stopped and like, and backed up.

Angus: Yes, it was like a, it was a silver Honda.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, exactly!

Angus: Yeah, bro, I, because when you started talking about it, that's all I think about is that car stopping and backing up. Did we run or was it some Haitian man, right? It was some Haitian man or something like that.

Trevor Augustus: BRO I took off

Angus: Yeah, I think we ran bro. I forgot what happened. Did they did he come and knock on the door or something like that? I forgot what happened

Trevor Augustus: Bro, I don't remember what I remember. Like somebody, I don't forget who threw it, but somebody hit the, hit the back of the car. And all I remember is a car stopping and I seen the reverse lights. Next thing I know, pew bro, we took off.

Angus: Yeah, man, I remember that one. I remember that one. And to be honest, I don't think we ever know. I don't think we ever seen him. I think we hit and ran. We were laughing in the backseat, just heart rushing and racing rather. man, dude, that's a core memory right there. I haven't thought about that in a minute.

Trevor Augustus: Bro. That is such a core memory, Mo.

Angus: man, they and they think we and that's the thing that generation has a lot of core memories being outside. We do too, man. I remember me and my cousin playing in the cul-de-sac. I think we had like second house when I was in second grade. So I was like, what, like eight, nine years old, maybe. Yeah, like eight years old or something. And we were playing, he was standing on a little Mount where a tree at the end of the cul-de-sac and our house was at the corner. very end but we're the end of the street on the other side. And all of a sudden he just started like itching himself when we looked down he's standing in an ant pile. Fire ants have covered his whole leg. And I just remember saying Jalen run to run. He just screaming running. Just screaming he just ran right into like by the time I got in the shower my dad is literally like, ⁓ he already has a shower and he's like, he's like, ⁓ get in there, get in there. He had to shower up man that boy was beat up.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ no.

Angus: He was bit up real bad, Real, real bad. And then that house too was the same house I sleepwalked in. I would lock myself in the garage. I would sleepwalk and walk into the garage and lock myself in. My parents would think it's an intruder and they'd come in there and I'd lock myself in and I was sleepwalking. I one time sleepwalked down the street.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ man. ⁓ snap.

Angus: Yeah, Crazy. Crazy core memories, bro. Crazy core memories. You got me going down. You got me thinking this is a therapy session. I'm about to start talking about all my, all my childhood. And then... Yeah, man. That's a, that's a big conversation. We'll, we'll constantly go over the differences between generations in this, in this.

Trevor Augustus: I didn't know that. Going this way. You That's right. And then... ⁓

Angus: Podcasts because there's definitely a societal shift going on right now and one thing I want to tell you guys that stood out to my what my dad said to me the other day and I wanted to share that with you guys is that you know, he was no it was the way that they were answering or asking questions to me him and my mom and Or I guess not necessarily asking questions, but what they thought was normal or what was okay It wasn't necessarily it was a problem. It was just that I didn't agree with it

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: But you know what my dad said to me, was like, hey man, you know, we're two different generations. That's why we have to continue to talk to each other, let each other know like what's okay and what's not okay. It's because we're always going to have somewhat of a disconnect because that's just how we think, that's how y'all think. And you know, that stuck with me. That actually made me digress a lot. That made me realize like, okay, stop being so judgmental. You guys are from a different time and the generation below us is from a different time. So try not to be so hard on everybody. Continue to communicate. and try to be able to share what's okay to you and what's not okay to you. That way people get along better. Doesn't matter whether you're old, young. Really doesn't matter, man. Just treat everybody with respect.

Trevor Augustus: So that kind of, that does kind of segue into the second, that's two part of that question was like, do you feel a disconnect from the generation that's before you and the generation that comes after you? I do think that it's a slight or not more so a slight, it's a significant gap. feel like, especially I feel like maybe with the generation after us, because like, Being like our age, it feels weird because we, at the same time, as much as we might feel like we're younger, that five years between like 21 to like 27 or 26, it does a lot. Especially the fact that we went through a pandemic and we went through other things in our life that has shaped who we are. We became adults at maybe the worst time because of a pandemic and because of how bad the economy was. is and I feel like because I see like kids that are like 1920 I feel like this disconnect because it's like you ever try talking to somebody from this generation it's like ⁓ my goodness I'm like now it's like now I kind of see what our parents kind of felt like when they were trying to talk to us when we were that age I don't know if that's the same with you or what

Angus: Yeah, you know what it is, is that, ⁓ And I'm not saying this is what it is, but this is it is to me. We know we're so exposed to so much because of social media and we talked about social media last week. ⁓ I believe we may touch on something a little later, but. I think because of social media, we're so exposed to so much. Like our brain is over saturated with everybody else's life experiences. So we think we know everything, but we don't have enough discernment as our last generation was able to receive from their parents on knowing better. And I thought about this the other day. Well, like our generation knows a lot because we have access to so much information, but we don't tend to know better because we don't have a lot of guidance with that information. It's just so much.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: And not a lot of us are treating the information that we're consuming appropriately. ⁓ and we're taking a lot of what we think is true all the time, or we're just taking that little snapshot of someone's frame, ⁓ frame of life. Someone's snapshot in that timeline as the only thing that they got going on. And so a lot of us are misinformed.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: A lot of us are misinformed and we misspeak or misspoke. To be quite frank, we don't know what we're talking about. We don't. I mean, honestly, that's a lot of us now. It's not even our generation. It's almost society in a whole because society in a whole. the thing about it is, which is so funny because we look at ourselves as millennials, gen A, boomers, all that stuff. Century from now, what we just looked at is the 2000 century. mean, what we're just gonna be looked at is the group of people that just lived during this timeframe. And the group of people that lived during this timeframe are all over saturated and exposed with social media. ⁓ So I think people, different generations that think they know better really don't. Those that have actually lived through it are... now getting exposed to social media and their mentality is completely changed. And I think it continues to cause that disconnect between the past generation or which is us. ⁓ And then like you said, when we talk to people that are younger than us. It is kind of hard. It's rough listening to them. They're like, what are you talking about, dude? Like, literally, like, the amount of times I was like listening, I'm like, bro, what are you talking about? But you're right. That's exactly what our parents feel about us. They listen to us. So they're like, bro, listen to this guy. And they got to sit there with a smile on their face and support us. And I mean, I think that's what we have to continue to be to the next generation. We're all going to be different.

Trevor Augustus: You Yeah I feel like that's a that happened that tends to happen with every single generation that there is from boomers the greatest generation and Gen X and and Millennials and and and Gen Z every like generation has its issues with the previous so I think that was kind of the whole point of ⁓ what's that song by J Cole 1985

Angus: Yep.

Trevor Augustus: when he's trying to talk to the younger rappers, the younger artists, because his whole point was, well, I don't understand, but I'm gonna try to. I don't necessarily like it, but I'm gonna try to understand, because when I was doing what I was doing, there was a whole generation of my parents and the generation up were looking down on me. So like you say, yeah, it is... rather difficult to assess that sometimes because you kind of almost feel like the old man yelling at clouds. But I think once it's kind of like when you have someone that understands you, it really makes you feel more comfortable. And hopefully, you you'll come to your senses about how life is because, you know, now People like in our age group are a little bit older. We had to learn the hard way. Now these kids now they have chat GPT and co-pilot and Google to think for them, which I think is a little bit dangerous. But I think that we have to do the work of being that I help guide and direct because there's going to be things that come up that

Angus: you extremely.

Trevor Augustus: we faced, but they can face it with our help. That's what I think.

Angus: Yeah, thing about things like AI software, for those that are actually half-worth ethic, for those that actually want to do things the right way, those that want to in strong case, their skill set and their knowledge will always do so. For those that are teeter tottering and for those that are always been lazy, it's just allowed them to get even more lazy. And for those that are teeter tottering, it's now allowed them to really make that decision freely for, you know, without even hesitating.

Trevor Augustus: Yes.

Angus: to be lazy. ⁓ So it's definitely going to still be people that work hard and have work ethic and are going to showcase their skill set in their field and do it relentlessly. yeah, now what we've done is we've over-saturated the market with lazy employees or lazy workers rather. People that don't actually have skill is because

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: Their skill is hacking it into Google or chat GPT or co-pilot, like you said, other softwares. I mean, you have people that are building multi-million dollar businesses off of an AI software that builds the app or website for them and does everything for them. That's great. No, I mean, because I love consulting and I love helping people with that. I mean, a lot of times when those businesses struggle. They struggle hardest because the people that are running those businesses actually don't know what they're doing. They've been having AI software do it for them. So it's tough, man. I will say that, you know, if I could give any advice to the next generation is continue to push yourself. Actually, challenge yourself to see how actually smart you are instead of trying to download as many apps as you can to see who could do what for you.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah, I think that and I really believe that AI is a great tool, but that's all it is really is a tool. Because I use, mean, I have to look certain things up or help them out with issues, but I also understand that at the end of the day, it's going by what is programmed to do. Like nothing is going to replace

Angus: Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: the human element. There are certain jobs. You can't, you can't teach AI to fix your, to your toilet. You can't, you can't tell AI to, you know, install your cable or stuff like that. Something that, or dig, dig a, dig a hole for it, or for a tree, a planted tree or, or, you know, dig around a tree or, well, yeah, you might be right.

Angus: Robocam,

Trevor Augustus: There it is.

Angus: really want to know some trucks and cranes. you know, you know, what that with that being said, it's interesting that you say that because I always tell people take the time now as we are shifting into artificial intelligence and more machinery being used as employment. It's because you should take this time now to build your skill set and see what your strong suit is and to be really building that is because let me tell you AI is going to take over all these minimum wage jobs. And if you, just got to yourself as a business owner, say if you were to open up, like if you have your own business or if you want to have your own business, just ask yourself as a business owner, your job is to continue to solve problems within your business and continue to, provide resolutions for your customer. And if there's one big problem within a business that is the lack of, or the lack of consistent customer service, that's quality based.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah.

Angus: which also deals with why customers depend or choose on that company. It depends on them choosing that company and if they stay with that company. So ⁓ I think if I'm a business owner and I'm looking at ⁓ quality scores and customer scores and just, I'm just looking at everything across the board. I'm probably getting rid of all of my low minimum wage jobs and replacing them.

Trevor Augustus: you

Angus: with artificial intelligence, something that's going to not have any emotion in it. And it's going to be perfect every single time if I program it that way. Would I do that personally? No, I'm just saying that that's how a lot of these guys are thinking. They're like, what can help me, you know, essentially get at least amount of bad reviews or least amount of. You know, just give my customers in and out quick without any air, without making them feel like they can come back. And for the most part, we have checkout centers. That's essentially AI, you know, something talking to you and you can check out your own stuff. And you see that you don't see any cashiers as much anymore. But you know, you do still see, you still see the managers. So those high paying jobs or those high or those high leadership and skilled positions. I definitely think that people.

Trevor Augustus: you. Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: should recognize what's their strong suit is because those are the jobs that you want. Those are the jobs that you can't get rid of. Those are the jobs that program those robots and artificial intelligence to do what they wanted to do so that they can work throughout the day. So keep that in mind, man, this generation is changing.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. I'm pretty sure like, ⁓ and also another point too, because I understand the resistance to AI and I get why, but like you said, I think that adaptation is very key because I'm pretty sure like even like in the early nineties when internet became a thing, there were people who were fighting against it because of the implications of, yeah, no more hard wiring. things are becoming more wireless, easily accessible. And it it probably put a lot of people out of jobs when it first came out because it took away the, it took away the middle man almost in a way. So it's kind of like where it is now where we see AIs is taking away that, that middle man. It's like, it's, kind of like what's going on in Hollywood where I just seen you some earlier where the Hollywood or the Oscars are completely banning generative AI writing.

Angus: Mm-hmm.

Trevor Augustus: for movies because it's getting to a point where you're having like chat GPT and these other programs are like making these like the I don't know if you've seen those videos online where like they they're like making whole movie scenes now like Marvel these Marvel type movies we're seeing like different different types of scenes and it looks real it's getting like very scary so

Angus: Yeah. It's getting very, very scary, very copyrightish.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, so I think the one thing that people need to do is just, like you said, try to adapt and find out where your niche is because there's gonna be jobs for everybody. People tend to fear what they don't understand and there's gonna be room to grow.

Angus: for sure.

Trevor Augustus: There's definitely going to be a room to grow. What was I going to say? Yeah, just basically the fact that there's resistance with any new thing. With any new thing that comes out and it's quicker and faster, you're going to have people who are going to be fighting against it. what's the saying? You either adapt or die.

Angus: after dying.

Trevor Augustus: We're gonna keep it moving. We're gonna keep it moving, guys. ⁓

Angus: See you later. way I do I do want to say one thing really quickly one of my favorite memories was going to blockbuster finding movie man that was cool. Blockbuster finding movies and I mean you know also to go into games up I know games also is live but I mean just buying games digitally just so much more convenient but ⁓

Trevor Augustus: I don't know how they're still alive, I'ma be honest with you.

Angus: Well, you know, they got their little surge. They got their little surge during COVID or whatnot, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know how either. But yeah, I'll let you move on though.

Trevor Augustus: I don't. No, no, you're good. No, I have those core memories too. Like I remember getting Batman begins and we came over your house to watch it. We were like order pizza and everything. And then I think your parents watched the movie or something like that because we all were over there and my parents watched the movie. And then after a while, me you jumped up. were like, it's Batman time. I got all these memories in my head, dude.

Angus: Yeah. See you in the... Dude, some of them I don't remember as much. Some of them I do. I do remember your family coming over for us to watch Batman Begins. That was one of my favorite, man. That's when Christian Bale became dear in my heart.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. ⁓ of course, for sure.

Angus: and Liam Neeson as Ra's al Ghul. Before we knew he was racist, but you know.

Trevor Augustus: Exactly, you know, it was all right. looked at, we were taking all three takings, like load those movies and then the tapes came out and it was like, okay, dang.

Angus: Yeah, you're a kid. ⁓ I will fight you.

Trevor Augustus: I will find you and I will kill you.

Angus: actually sound just like him. You know it's crazy because I didn't even realize that like he was Ra's al Ghul and I think ⁓ yeah I didn't realize he was Ra's al Ghul and I didn't know that Samuel Wiley Jackson until later on I was like ⁓ Samuel Wiley Jackson isn't Star Wars. Samuel Jackson's in everything. Nick Fury, he's like Snoop Dogg of like TV.

Trevor Augustus: He's free, he's done everything. No, yeah, he was a pulp fiction and freaking then ⁓ the Django and what else were he saying? Stacks on a plane.

Angus: He played a great Uncle Tom in Dijango. did. He really good stuff. Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: He really did. Who was that on that neck?

Angus: I'm gonna have to burn them sheets.

Trevor Augustus: You gonna burn those sheets they a mind to burn! What is that on that neck? That neck? That knuckle neck. Hilarious scene, bruh.

Angus: ⁓ man. it my name. Yeah, that's the right thing. You know, funny. love watching as a reaction channel on or like watching reaction channels. React to that scene right there. That's a good thing.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ Yeah, hilarious scene,

Angus: Remember when a Hancock came out?

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah.

Angus: Dude, we can sit here all day and just reminisce off of childhood, man. That's crazy.

Trevor Augustus: Well, Hancock, remember when, listen, we were too broke to like go to the movie theaters a lot. So we get, pilot a lot of our movies before we had like, like streaming, like stream pirating. We had like to get burning, burning CDs and DVDs. You had to the plug. You had to know somebody to get, you a CD. You want them DVDs. You had to know somebody.

Angus: Yeah, man. Whatever. Yeah, man. You get it? Yeah, and you over there trying to tell the person in the movie theater to shut up and stop talking so you can hear the movie.

Trevor Augustus: My dad used to work Right. You know, it was like a, you know, it was a camcorder when you get up and you see somebody walk by the screen. I'm like, Oh dang. Oh, you know what? Listen, that's how I saw a call. That's how I saw a call.

Angus: You hear people call us? Yeah, Bro, that's the thing, bro. That stuff happened in the 90s, but it didn't stop until like early 2010s, you know, maybe even like 2012, 13, like that. Like, people think that stuff was like, it stopped after 1999. Like 2000 was like everything, which is all good or something. So.

Trevor Augustus: Ew! Like if you didn't get your stuff at the lot, because you know back then it took when a movie came out, it took like what, like a year or so to come to the DVD.

Angus: Yeah, it wasn't like today where like three months and it's in streams or stuff like that. Like, no, man, nothing took forever, bro. It's a forever. I'm talking about like, especially when

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: Like when, when the Blu-ray came out and like you have the Blu-ray disc, but you have Blu-ray like PS4 and PS3. Like that was huge. People were just buying PS, ⁓ PlayStations just to watch movies at home. Cause mind you, that was, that was big for us. That was like our Blu-ray was essentially like 4k, ⁓ home, like movie, ⁓ movie theater movies style. It was, it was like really good quality movies. So the very first Blu-ray to ever come out.

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ yeah.

Angus: I was the Avatar movie. I believe so. I believe it was Avatar movie. and I remember when that came out, that was a great movie. And we watched that like all the time. That was insane. And it's awesome now that they have a video game.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah, yeah that like when when seven like when 720 everybody has 720 but I remember like when 1080p came out and then And everybody had those out. I had one of those on those TVs with the boxes on on the top of it Like you hear that being it's like a huge box in the back of it and you had your PlayStation with like the RCA cables

Angus: Yep. Yup.

Trevor Augustus: these kids don't know about cables, bro. Red, white and blue or red and white, yellow like cables before there was HDMI. We had to like plug everything up to the back and hope they were working, man. These kids.

Angus: you Bro. ⁓ went on the CD blown on the cartridge man they don't know about that and you know what's funny too is that like you remember my TV remember my big black TV that had the line in the middle we kept having to smack it just for it to work

Trevor Augustus: Man! I don't even remember that, what?

Angus: dude we had to smack that thing bro every single time you know how embarrassing it was when guests like we in fact my parents i remember growing up but there was a certain time like my parents didn't invite guests over because they were super embarrassed it's because of that and then our like i just remember that at times we were like all right man we'll just make it work so we have people over for like family worship night and when it would happen like you know my dad would get up and be like hey my bad we'd sit down, like me and Asia would take turns hitting it. Sometimes in the- that was the thing too. I couldn't wait until we got a new TV is because in the middle of the night you couldn't sneak and play video games because if that thing goes in the middle of the night you gotta- I just- I remember doing it one time and I said- just like real quick-

Trevor Augustus: Hehehehehe

Angus: to try to get it and my and you know what was crazy too no one knows the feeling of trying to turn on your PlayStation and hoping that no one hears that hello

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ man. And you better hope your TV was muted. Cause you know like how I used to come on.

Angus: Yes! ⁓ my god!

Trevor Augustus: Bro, you sound like this.

Angus: Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: Exactly! And then like your parents be like, what was that? And you were like, nothing.

Angus: No, no, you over here, you turn the TV off real quick and be like, no, I was looking for a song.

Trevor Augustus: Right, right, exactly. I'm just looking for...

Angus: it's right here. Okay. Good night.

Trevor Augustus: Man, these kids don't know, bro. Like...

Angus: Yeah, man, because they get an iPad for everything they do. They don't get no bedtime. They get an iPad for everything. They get to go to TV. They got a TV in their room with video games and all that stuff, man, just to get them to go to What? What?

Trevor Augustus: Really? They get an iPad by the time they... TV in your room? What? Aight. Aight.

Angus: Yeah. All right. Crazy. Crazy.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, brother, these kids again I passed by the time they like five little five year old.

Angus: Dude, try again, try again. They get on like six months old and then they get a, get, they get your favorite iPad that you've been saving up for at five. That's what they get. Yeah, that's the crazy thing.

Trevor Augustus: Hahaha! Exactly. A little preschooler like with a dog on iPhone. I'm like, bro, I didn't get like a, didn't get a working cell phone until I was like 15.

Angus: What was that exactly? What was that, that phone that had like, it was like a blue phone and you, it was like, you could only call four numbers. It was like mom, dad, it's on nine one one and something else. It was, I think it was like safe light or I don't know what it was. It was like a little family phone. It almost looked like a beeper. was like blue and green. had white buttons on it. It was for kids and it was a track phone. It was a track phone. Yeah. And then I remember the track phone. My parents got me those track phones. I remember.

Trevor Augustus: I I know what you're talking about. Like a track- yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Angus: I remember losing my phone too and getting in trouble and then getting another track phone. Man, y'all know nothing about that, bro. Y'all get in trouble, y'all get sent home or y'all get sent to your room with your phone. It's just crazy.

Trevor Augustus: I remember you like, you didn't- I remember like that's some of the reasons we never even talked because you never had a phone We had to like call I call your house phone or whatever I call one of your parents cell phones and if they didn't answer Yeah, exactly

Angus: And it just. Bye. Can I speak to Junior? Is he in trouble? Is he in trouble again? Aw man. He's sorry.

Trevor Augustus: And then sometimes you would be in trouble and I'm like, I guess I got to figure something else out.

Angus: Yeah. Well, well, well, well, well, can I still come over? I know he's in trouble, but can I come over? We were supposed to play TK. ⁓ no, next weekend? Next weekend he's been bad? He was bad? Okay. I'll tell him to behave. Yes, ma'am. I'll tell him to behave. Bye. Call back next week. Was he good this week? Can I come over now? Yeah, he was good this week. Okay, I'm coming.

Trevor Augustus: You It was good. Okay. What time you bringing your clothes? You're gonna make okay. All right.

Angus: Yeah. All right. Do we have to pick you up or you're going to get dropped off?

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ I guess I'm about to drop you off. As soon as I get off work.

Angus: You're a kid, why do you have to go to work?

Trevor Augustus: I remember your mom. Remember your mom was, I don't know if you remember this, but she was like, she looked at me dead in my face when I was like seven. She's like, you know, I beat kids, right?

Angus: Oh yeah, my mom says that to everybody. She says that to every kid.

Trevor Augustus: I was like, ⁓ yeah, maybe I shouldn't come over.

Angus: Yeah. Dad, can he come over our house then? She be kids.

Trevor Augustus: Listen, hey, you know, you had to ask your homeboy if to ask your parents if you could stay over because they weren't gonna listen to you. But the friend that they like, they'll listen to them. They like them.

Angus: Yeah, it was like, yeah, you need to go over there. He listened to his parents. I mean, I bet I get to come. Thanks for asking. But you can't, but you can't ask. You can't ask me. It won't work like that. You got to your friend ask and you got to have a good friend ask. And even if you want to go hang out with your friend and you know, he ain't necessarily good. You got to have a good friend come to just ask. Can he come over and you know, yeah, you know, you know what?

Trevor Augustus: Right? You can't, it didn't work like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you gotta be there. He'll be there.

Angus: And then your parents would say something like this. You should tell him he needs to listen to his parents. Like what he gonna do? Like, and then you gotta go over there and be like, and you'd be like, yeah, your mom said you can't come and you need to listen to your parents. ⁓

Trevor Augustus: Like bro. Nah.

Angus: Man, that's the child that we want to do,

Trevor Augustus: Now I remember like when y'all were car shopping one time and like we were like riding around Orlando the whole day looking for a car for y'all. It was the dog on what was it was a Ford Fusion I think or something like that a Ford Focus or whatever y'all ended up getting. But I literally like I can't move.

Angus: I don't even remember that, it's great. What's a four fusion? Rando getting a four fusion. That's It was a black four fusion.

Trevor Augustus: or something like that, it some kind of a force. Yeah, it was, yeah, I do remember it being black. It was like a black Ford Fusion and like we drove around Orlando car shopping. So me and he were just like walking around bored, playing imaginary hoops. Cause it was like, what are we doing?

Angus: That sounds like it's that sound like this man, bro, that was a

Trevor Augustus: Man.

Angus: That was our childhood, man. We had a lot of fun, bro. You our families were growing through a lot, but we had a lot of fun.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Man, well, since we are talking about friendships, for those who obviously, if you haven't been able to tell, already been able to tell, me and AJ had been friends since we were like six, seven years old. And there was a study done, not a study, but on there was a website I found doing some research about keeping. your friends after you turn 20, or basically after your formative years in high school. And just some key statistics here. It says that loneliness peaks at the age of 25 and 45 after the standard education cycles end. It says chronic loneliness in post-school adults increases the risk of early death by 26%. Social isolation in adults is associated with a 50 % increased risk of dementia and 42 % of adults report that social anxiety is the main barrier of forming post-school friendships. And 12 % of Americans say that they have no close friends at all after entering adulthood. ⁓ 30 % of adults meet their closest post-high school friends at their place of employment. And high school friends who live more who live more than 50 miles apart have a 70 % higher chance of friendship disillusion. ⁓ I think it's interesting that a lot of people don't have friends out of high school because obviously there's no forced interactions that you have with people like you're not in a confined space where you have to make friends. So I think that I think it's commendable if you do have somebody out of like your high school years that you still keep close in contact with because you no longer have that close proximity to certain people having those certain interactions unless you're at the job and you form your friends then. But those people at your job are not necessarily your friends. because they're just gonna do a job just like you're doing. And they also have families, they also have lives. They also have people that they need to answer to as well. So let's get some quick thoughts from you about this stats that I read off there.

Angus: So, you know, it's funny, I wrote those down because they all align with my thought process on this. So three things that were forward. Yeah. Three things that I wrote down that you said on those stats was, ⁓ well, one, was a key phrase that this happens at the end of the education cycle. You were saying 50 miles distance ends up into diluting friendships. And then you also mentioned 30 % of individuals in the workplace meet their friends. And so this kind of just aligns to what I think is, is that most people or let's just say this in general, when you're a kid. You find your friends a friend group based on emotions. That's how you make each other feel. That's how friends are supposed to be. When it becomes, ⁓ you know, more older years where you're becoming an adult and you have to find something to do to provide for yourself and you pick a career in occupation and industry to go into your life becomes more monetary focus. And through being monetary focus, you end up picking different lanes.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: And through those different lanes, you find yourself creating that quote unquote 50 mile distance that ends up diluting your friendships. Wherever the lane that you did pick is essentially where you will probably end up finding a lot of your friends. And these distances is where the chemistry kind of breaks, the bond kind of breaks. Now these are for most people. What I found very, helpful for myself is to stop finding friends and trying to date people in the Keep coworkers in the position that they're supposed to be coworkers. Keep your friendships that you grow and work so hard for outside of Got to. Keep your friendships, those that you work on in school, the ones that you work on and wherever place of worship you're at or the ones that you work on.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: And any type of secular activities that you have Keep those and continue to build on them like yes, of course, you're gonna build some friendships in the workplace naturally It's totally fun But you definitely have to create a healthy boundary Because imagine yourself falling out with that friend at the workplace and then you find yourself looking for another job or hoping that person does so You know when you're able to keep things in an appropriate place ⁓ I think you find a lot more peace that way and you're not losing a lot of these organic friendships that you work so hard to build because I see a lot of that man. I see a lot of individuals that are not necessarily ⁓ keeping in touch anymore. I see a lot of individuals that kind of only do so because one person reached out. And really what it comes down to is just there's two different focuses for those people. One is focused on another thing, another person is focused on something completely opposite. When you essentially treat your friends as your friends and your coworkers and your coworkers and your family as your family, everyone has its own place. You're able to continue to build those relationships organically.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, some other stats that I didn't read because I didn't want to go too long. ⁓ But it also says here, says 61 percent of adults find it difficult to make new friends after graduating high school or college. It also says that the average American has not, the average American has not made a new friend in five years after entering the workforce. Men are 50 % more likely than women to lose touch with all their high school friends within five years, which makes total sense. It says, yeah, it also says, this is interesting too. I don't know where they got this from, but it takes approximately 50 hours of shared time to move from acquaintance to casual friend as an adult. And it says adults.

Angus: those make sense.

Trevor Augustus: need nearly 200 hours of quality interaction to become friends after graduation. 40 % of adults spend only 30 minutes a week socializing with friends. That actually makes total sense if you think about it because

Angus: Okay, so all those timeframes actually make a lot of sense. And a lot of those statistics make a lot of sense. Can you run through the first three really quickly, just briefly before I comment? know you said 61%. What?

Trevor Augustus: 61 % of adults find it difficult to make new friends after graduating high school or college.

Angus: Got it. And what was the next one real quick?

Trevor Augustus: So in the next one, this is the average American has not made a new friend in five years after entering the workplace.

Angus: Okay, got it. So those two statistics actually go hand in hand. And the reason why is for one particular thing. You abandon your organic friendships that you built as childhood. So now you go into the workplace or you go into school and you're trying to build these friendships out of nothing, out of thin air from people that are essentially strangers that come from different walks of life that you know nothing about, which is essentially why people end up falling out and they don't actually keep these real friendships. And why these 61 %? find it difficult to actually find a friend and you said what 30 % find it difficult to what?

Trevor Augustus: It says 36, what was that?

Angus: Brand new at 61 %?

Trevor Augustus: I just had it.

Angus: Is it 36 % find it hard to keep a friend?

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ no, says that group-based hobbies increase the likelihood of finding adult friends by 35%.

Angus: no, it was something else, but I kind of remember what it was. It was something about how...

Trevor Augustus: ⁓ it says 30 % of adults meet their closest post high school friends at their place of employment.

Angus: No, that was a little before it was a lot it was a lot further down. But it was something essentially by ⁓ something about 36 % of individuals find it harder to start friendships. And something of that effect. And I was the reason why I was saying that goes hand in hand with the 61 % that find it difficult to find friends is because I feel like when you give up, or you stop putting effort into a friendship that you've built so much into. ⁓ It's kind of really hard for you to start putting effort into another person that you know nothing about. And it's really, hard. Like you can, build these friendships with adults that you don't, that you've never met before. Like I said, it was what, hours of quality time. That makes about, that makes a good amount of sense. Because if we're talking about, that's at least

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: Nestle is hanging out with you for two hours, what? 20 times? I don't know my math right now, pretty off. But anyway, I don't know if that's all for me. Yeah, Dr. Phillips at work. ⁓ But yeah, it's just, I don't think adults right now are putting in that effort to do that. Who is actually right now putting in 200 quality hours of actually trying to get to know someone?

Trevor Augustus: At public school math guys at public school now guys Yeah.

Angus: for real, for real, and call them the best friend in their adult life. It doesn't happen enough. It happens, but it doesn't happen enough. And the reason why is because so many people have just given up on the friendships that they already have when they were younger. They're like, oh, you know how many times you ever listen to someone and they're like, oh, I used to have this friend. I used to have this friend that did this. I used to have this friend. Oh, you know, my childhood friend did this. It's like, where's that friend now? They have them. You they went two different ways in life.

Trevor Augustus: Because you have to be like with adult friends, you have to be intentional. So that means initiating plans. That means texting first, following up on those plans, being consistent, which is hard, you know, and then obviously, you know, which everyone goes through this, awkward stage of not really knowing that person, not really knowing their likes and their dislikes and the ways that they communicate.

Angus: Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: the ways ⁓ that they process emotions, the ways that they process stress and deal with stress. ⁓ Social media, mean, people use social media to make friends, but it's only surface level. It's only surface level. You can keep connections with people, yeah, but it's like, you don't know what's really going on with that person.

Angus: Yeah. It's like you make me money so I'm going to be your friend. Yeah. It's funny because all that stuff that you were talking about where, you know, there's commitment involved to being someone's friend. It's we didn't think anything about that as kids. You just commit. It's like we weren't thinking about how much things cost and what it costs to do something. We just said, Mom, Dad, can I go hang out? Can I go hang out my best friend? You know, I mean, that was it. Now it's like.

Trevor Augustus: in Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Angus: to keep a friendship, It's, it's expense. Friends always asking you, yeah, friends always asking you somewhere. Friends are always, you know, that's what it takes effort, man. It takes real effort to keep friends. know, me and friend Trevor had like a, a disconnect for about almost a decade, but it took effort for us to reach back out to each other and actually continue to put chemistry into rebuilding our friendship and stuff like that. I don't think a lot of people actually care to do that on a consistent level.

Trevor Augustus: You got gas and stuff like that Friends always ask me for money. Yeah, man, that that bond has has it has to be started when you're young because you're like we all we talked about the core memories some a lot of obviously all those core memories that we talked about are intrinsically tied to each other. Like I didn't it wasn't just some random random gel smell that I went over his house to that I went over your house or you came over my house. Those memories are fortunately or unfortunately tied to the person, you know what saying? Like you, it's hard to, it's hard to do that over like when you're like over the age of 20 because you're working, you know, you're, trying to get your life started. ⁓ like I said earlier, you lose that the, the, the force proximity that you have, that you had in school where you kind of had to.

Angus: Mm-hmm.

Trevor Augustus: because school is obviously just as social as it is educational.

Angus: No

Trevor Augustus: And you you got kids, some people you might have kids, you might have, like I said, you might have jobs. You may have other family members that you have to help out and attend to. So you may not necessarily have the emotional bandwidth that it takes to communicate or commit with communication and stuff like that, because you're just trying to, you're trying to worry about the stuff that you got going on. Listen, we've been friends since we were six or seven years old and... Only time I talked to you was on here. So, how it is.

Angus: Yeah. Yeah, man. That's kind of true. Being, you know, like we have busy lives, you know, I'm going through school right now, I'm dating. And, you know, we're just out and about and stuff like that. So right now, like he said, you know, we just put in the effort of trying to hang out with each other any way we can. That's, you know, we do this to continue to build that bond and chemistry between our friendship. And there's so many ways today now to being that it's really easy. I mean, you could just call someone up, have a FaceTime, or sit there on the phone for a couple minutes, but it's all it takes about effort.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, for sure. It just takes a little bit of effort. there's listen, guys, if there's anybody that obviously you hear us talking and if there's anybody that you've thought about, you know, over the course of listening to us and that you've been friends with for any length of time and you haven't had the the courage to reach out, go ahead and reach out. I'm promising you it'll it'll it might end up working out good for you.

Angus: Yeah, man.

Trevor Augustus: You don't want to end up.

Angus: And also I encourage the, also for crush it too, man. If you got a crush on somebody, shoot, shoot, man.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, that's true too.

Angus: Appropriately, don't say nonecrate.

Trevor Augustus: Please don't don't get canceled. Which kind of, right, you hear that from you though. Which this topic actually kind of goes into the next one I'm talking about, and adulthood. Because as we've been mentioning with the way life is with jobs and kids and maybe working bills, it's very easy to feel lonely because...

Angus: And don't say I said something.

Trevor Augustus: there's a certain isolation that you have being an adult. And I didn't even realize this, like when you start paying bills and when you start trying to work and take care of yourself, there is a sense of isolation that you feel because everyone else is going through it too. So it's not like you can just, you can't just like always vent to people about it because it's like, yeah, you don't want to dump on somebody because they're going through the exact same thing that you are. ⁓

Angus: Yeah. Yeah.

Trevor Augustus: Have you experienced this more so or if so, have you dealt with it?

Angus: And I felt like that for a long time. I was on my own for a very, very, very long time. yeah, and honestly, it can come in many different ways. It come from the lack of friends, which I had. can come from a lack of support and family, which I had at one point. But also it can come from a lack of relationship and spirituality with God, ⁓ which I had at one point. But also just, even if you do have good relationships with Jehovah and you have a great relationship with your friends and family. ⁓ Like I said, even when you're busy, you can feel this loneliness. I think we have so much responsibility as adults, so much pressure is on us that we feel that we're the only ones that have this pressure. ⁓ We feel as if... No one cares what we're going through. No one's going to try to help us or no one wants to help us. We feel like people put it on us and we didn't export and people are blaming for us for something or whatever it is and We just always feel like our back is against the wall. It doesn't matter who the adult is, we just always feel like our back is against the wall. You could be married, you could be not be married, you be in a relationship where you feel like you have a strong support system and even then you will somewhat feel as if my back is against the wall at all times. And with this economy and the high prices, the high raising prices and almost anything, inflation rather is the word I was trying to say, sorry about that guys, inflation.

Trevor Augustus: Thank

Angus: It's in the lack of increase in income. Almost anybody, even a teenager, could feel a lot of pressure right now. A lot, a lot, a lot of pressure. So that pressure load makes you feel almost lonely because people can sit there and try to comfort you, console you. ⁓ But I feel as if unless someone solves the problem for you, you feel as if you're Like if someone was to be like, you know, let me come in and take your problem away from you and solve it for you. then I feel like we don't feel alone anymore. But because that doesn't necessarily happen like that, and we have to work through our own issues and be ⁓ resilient, we have to be resilient towards our problems. You know, that can make people feel as if they're lonely. It can make them really feel like they're lonely because they're like, ⁓ I gotta actually get through this. And they're, you know, they see themselves, prompt themselves to work every day. They see themselves cook for themselves or have to take care of themselves, even if they have a spouse. And no one else can do that for them. And that's true, because no one else can do that for them.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah.

Angus: But that's just the everyday life of living as an adult. And I think you really only feel that way in your younger years when you realize what being an adult really is. You have this idea of what being an adult is at a young age when you actually figure out what life is. Early on, it could be pretty depressing. It could feel very disappointing. You could feel very, very lonely and isolated.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Ahem.

Angus: until eventually you kind of understand what your role is in life and what life really is. And from there, I think you start to gain your confidence for those that happens younger than others. yeah. And then also too, just really quick before you go, I think in today's day and age where you see people have so many followers, these influences, everybody's following them. Everybody wants to be like them. Everybody wants to be their friend. And I think if you Don't feel that sense of, you know, people lusting to be your friend or be in your circle or be in your posse, so to speak. think for some people that can make them feel lonely. For some people that get caught up in that, it can make them feel really lonely. And that's more younger people. Yes, you definitely have a lot of adults that are like that a lot. But I think with the younger generation, because they're growing up on that, or they're growing up with streamers walking around in this posse era where we were used to it walking. with rappers and celebrities. But now you have regular people that go to school and then once they leave school, not even once they leave school, they're recording the whole time while they're at school now. They're recording while they're at school, they're recording outside the school bus, they're recording. So now these kids are seeing other kids do stuff and then they have all these other kids that flock towards them because they become these huge influencers. And when you're getting passed up or essentially walked by and people are brushing shoulders just to get to the next guy in front of you because he has some high following YouTube page or TikTok or Instagram. could make you feel lonely as well and you can carry that mentality into your adulthood.

Trevor Augustus: Real quick, do you hate that too? Like we're in the era of like everybody has to pull up their phones and record everything.

Angus: I just want to eat my food. I just want to eat my food when I get my food, bro. I don't want every, I don't want my dinner on your Instagram. I'm sorry. I'm messing your phone. I'm gonna start eating my food.

Trevor Augustus: Listen, I couldn't be. Listen, bro, I couldn't be like an athlete or like a celebrity in this time, bro. No, I couldn't do it. Cause everyone's like recording you and it's like, why are you actually recording you weirdo? Like I don't understand. Like in everyone's is like, don't know how many times you've seen those videos of like somebody would be drowning or like somebody getting beat up. And then you see everyone like this.

Angus: Yeah, man. It's crazy.

Trevor Augustus: Help him! What are you- Help him! What you doing?

Angus: Yeah, like it's about to make you famous because you caught a video of someone getting beat up or something. That's what people really think that on posted on YouTube. How do you feel about posting another man getting beat or a woman being robbed and harassed and posting it to your page? Like, dude, what do you do?

Trevor Augustus: Like bro, why would...

Angus: That's not even cool, And then you know what it is, it's because, ⁓ people are gonna comment and like it anyway, so that's why they think it's cool. And the thing about it, they don't even realize that people that comment and like it are not even good people.

Trevor Augustus: It's really not. or not.

Angus: So you just gave yourself, you just made yourself accessible to actually bad people.

Trevor Augustus: And what Charleston White said, if I'm getting beat up and I wake up and I see you with the phone, I'm shooting the one with the phone.

Angus: I'm very stupid.

Trevor Augustus: do is hilarious. But ⁓ but yeah, everyone, everyone's like in this recording area and I hate to say it, but these streamers like speed and, and, and, Kai and everybody who's, who's really been like the, the genesis of that whole thing. Unfortunately, it's kind of on them, you know, I think that, I don't know, just

Angus: the streamer university and stuff like that.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, not nowadays these kids, want to be streamers like back in our day, like you wanted to be like a plumber or an electrician or, or something that's kind of like provide a good stable, like a nurse or something or a doctor. Now you ask a kid like 16, 17 years old, I want to be a streamer like high speed.

Angus: Yeah. It's like somewhat, it's not really that accessible as you think it is too, ⁓ it's tough and a lot of those guys, were streaming for you. And that's the thing, those guys like that we name actually kind of are somewhat skillful and have ambition. They taught themselves everything about that industry. They taught themselves, they skilled their own businesses to be million dollar businesses on their own with some help here and there for mentorships and.

Trevor Augustus: Night.

Angus: lawyers, counselors, all different types. Like they had a whole team. And eventually they scale themselves to to making better and bigger content. A lot of these kids that just see that, oh, I want to be a streamer like them. They don't know what it takes. They don't know what it takes. And then when they finally realize what it takes, they don't put nearly as much effort until they crash and burn out. And next, know, they miss it on their opportunity to actually have a real job. So I just think that like for those, get your, you know, establish yourself first, get yourself a skillset. You want to be a streamer. There's no problem with that. and Trevor doing podcasting, we became podcast for no reason. So it's like, there's nothing wrong with it, bro. There's nothing really wrong with it. If have a business and you want to promote it, ⁓ obviously you're to need to have some type of content creation and marketing ⁓ sector of your business. it's like, there's nothing wrong with that. But I think we don't actually have a skillset that you could use as a ⁓

Trevor Augustus: you

Angus: leverage your background first before even doing that. You're just creating yourself, or you're setting yourself up for failure, creating like a recipe for disaster.

Trevor Augustus: You gotta have something to fall back on. Like just in case, like say like it doesn't work out. It's just, I mean, obviously we're not, we're not hoping and praying that that happens, but you have to have a backup plan. You have to have, like you have to have money to put into this. Like I had to, I had to get a microphone and I get a ring light, a camera, stuff like that. Things that they're gonna be like.

Angus: hours. Thank you. for the monthly subscription for the software and stuff like

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, you're going to pay for the like, because you know the, you think I'm posting clips. Obviously like AI is helping me out. Like there's an assistant on this app that doesn't make, makes clips and stuff like that. It gives me the show notes, but at the same time, it's like, have to, somebody has to pay for that. Every month. Like literally.

Angus: Yeah, exactly. Every single month. And the thing about it is to be able to do that, you got to have a job or some type of source of income, which means you need to go get, you need to earn a skill or learn a skill. Even if it's like a medial job, like labor, learn, learn how to be humble and work with your hands. You know what I mean? And those skills that you use or you learn will actually be very, very vital and resourceful while you become a streamer or content creator, anything you do. ⁓ you know, I work in a neurology field. in epilepsy with patients that have seizures or that are at risk of seizures. But I mean, I was working in, you know, food and beverage and hospitality first. It's two different fields. However, I use my hospitality and my customer service and my attention to detail and my consideration, ⁓ exceeding expectations mentality that I would use in hospitality. I just brought that bedside. You know what mean? I could, so while I'm doing my job, I'm attention to detail, you know, make sure I exceed expectations, hospitality, customer service, bedside, patient, man, you know, talking to the patient and patient family, make sure that they feel okay. So you got to be able to earn a skill before you go off and do something else. And it's the same skills that I build with that, that keep me persistent in doing this right here, whenever I can and continue to try to let this grow. So. You know, the same thing for Trevor and things that he learned and skill set allows him to do this as well. Even when we don't realize it sometimes, you're like, you know what, I don't even know how I got this. Like if someone was to ask the question, like, what, you know, how'd you get skill from this? Or what made you think this way? What gave you this mentality? A lot of times it comes from something in our, like our earlier years from experiences that we got from our earlier years and, know, past occupations and industries that we've worked in, past coworkers or past friends that we've had in our past life. so to speak, that allow us to get to a place where we're at today. pick up a camera and a mic and a flashlight, it's not going to work.

Trevor Augustus: You have to. Yeah, it's not that simple because then you have to worry about the business side of things. There's a whole other business side that people don't think about. But like you say, you have to have another source of income. that, listen, that might even like with me doing music, you have to have another source of income because it's not, it's not your typical nine to five where you get a check every month, a check every week and I pay still. It's not like you have to have the money to invest. Eventually I want to start investing to within like posting on social media and getting more advertisements out so more people can see it. Because the name of the game nowadays is engagement and getting out to getting getting directly to the people direct to consumer. That's the name of the game now. But you have to be able to have a job like, hey, listen, if you got to get up five in the morning and dig some trenches. You had to get up five, six in the morning and dig some holes or go work in a warehouse and go move some boxes. be it. I did, I best out, that's like literally that's all the type of work that I've did over the course of my life has been in working on, you know, working on somebody's yard or working on somebody's warehouse or a construction site. But you know what? Hey, the bills are great.

Angus: My first job was going to people in my car in an engagement accident. Can I cut your grass for $20?

Trevor Augustus: There you go. Listen, it's all green. It's all green.

Angus: The man behind the register except everything that has a face on it.

Trevor Augustus: Exactly, it's true. Yeah, so you gotta have something.

Angus: And I mean, so, and you got to make honest work too. Honest work, bro, will help you with, know, it would actually make you feel a lot more fulfilled when you do start to see the success of in-content. And I want to keep in mind here and let people know, I mean, we're not experts. We're still growing. We're still figuring things out as well. Quality content, equipment. conversation pieces, ⁓ consistency, scheduling, all of that. So, you know, we're still figuring out as well. You know, we're just kind of sharing some type of encouragement and also some good advice that kind of helps us and how we're able to actually give you guys this episode right here.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's a good point, too. Just so y'all know, like, I mean, like, oh, well, Trevor and Adrian said I got it like, bro, just this is things that we've learned and experiences in our life. We're not we're not experts. Like you just say, we're not, you know, financial advisors or life coaches. It's just things that we've been through that has shaped who we are. And if we can go back and change certain how certain things were done, I know I probably would. But that's the thing about life, that's the beauty of life is you take what you've learned and you use it for whatever you gotta face next.

Angus: So

Trevor Augustus: World leaders in...

Angus: That reminds me, remember like sometimes when you're like playing, what was it, Forza Motorsport or was it Gran Turismo? I think it was Forza and you like messed up a turn and you could press, you could hold down X and you know, replay the turn. Sometimes I'll hold that. I wish that was life. We could just hold down X real quick. We play that job interview or play that pickup line.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Now, remember that, uh, remember Madden, I think it was Madden 09. Well, they have the rewind feature. Like if you, that's what I wish.

Angus: ⁓ yeah. Bro, think, what was it? Was it Madden 11 or Madden 10? The one with uh, Tyrell Owens. was, no, was Calvin Johnson. The one with Calvin Johnson going crazy.

Trevor Augustus: Oh yeah, that was like Madden 14 or Madden 25 they call it.

Angus: I know, there was something different. think it may have been... I forgot what it was. I think it may have been like 2008 or something. It may have been 2008. But the one where they brought out the one-hand catches, which one was that? That was my favorite one.

Trevor Augustus: That was probably like, that was probably like 13 or 14.

Angus: Possibly possibly but just that one was really really good. I really liked that one I just thought it was fun because it brought this like arcade play style To the where you can like deep bombs were actually accurate one-hand catches over the shoulder back end zone catches like it was Those are fun, man. That was a remember like a plexiglass birdies won the Super Bowl when we sit there We talked about this before but you know why we were going down memory lane before we move on or close this out, you know those days of running through plays and stuff like that and being in the backyard and like, you know, we see a huge place. So we got to reenact it ourselves. you know, Plexico Burris from Eli Manning, the Santonio Holmes from Ben Roethlisberger or Santana Moss rather. Santana Holmes? Okay. Yeah, that's what I That's many players that

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. It was Antonio Holmes. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Angus: But we got a lot more episodes to come, man, when we talk about we go back to sports, man, because we definitely got to head back to sports soon.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, there's going to be a after the finals. There's going to be a little bit of a low. I don't really watch baseball like that. Unfortunately, it's going to be a little bit of a low until until training camp starts and we start to see what our teams are looking like and see what the league is looking like around around that time. We got to have lim on one of these episodes. I don't know when he just be so busy.

Angus: Don't worry guys, we'll have some guests for some soccer. Yeah, we'll have some guests for some soccer. We'll have some guests for some baseball for the summer. will also, know, hockey finals should be coming up or they should be in their playoffs. I'm not sure. I actually need to see what their season is, but usually they're in the playoffs and finals around the same time as basketball, hockey and NBA usually around the same time. So I'll have to check.

Trevor Augustus: Jonathan got a comeback too.

Angus: But we'll try to ⁓ accommodate to all those fans out there, because we may not know everything, but what we do is we love sports and we love talking. And we can bring some people on, ask the right questions, let them talk. Like you said, we'll definitely get Jonathan back on. We've been saying that a lot, but we definitely got to get Jonathan back on. We got to get coach back out here, Coach Pollock. And especially with the off season, I know ⁓ he's liked a few things probably that he'd seen that he would love to talk about.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah. Yeah.

Angus: I'd love to question a few things as coaches do. So we gotta get him back on here, man.

Trevor Augustus: Yeah, for sure, man. Yeah, guys, that brings this episode to a close, though. It's been a very fun, very fun and very informative episode. We still have a lot to get to on the docket here, but we're going to end it like this. We'll be probably back next week for part two because there's a few more things that we wanted to get to, but we didn't have the time today. But that is quite all right. I'm going to be here. This microphone is going to be here. So hopefully we can get that up next part two out there for y'all, man. But like I said, man, that has been another episode of the It's Been A Minute podcast. Once again, y'all know me, I'm your host, Trevor Augustus, and my partner in crime to the left for however you're viewing this podcast is Angus A.J. Johnson. That is another one in the books, y'all. Peace.

Angus: Yes. Thanks

Trevor Augustus: Yes sir.