Mark: They call you back. I'm Mark. We're in the middle of a conversation. Andy's got to make a telephone call. Andy: Hello, hello everyone, I'm Andy. And this, we're in the middle of a raging row. And this is speaking shite, actually. Mark: Yeah, which is completely appropriate for the nature of our conversation. dear. Right. So what have you researched and prepared for this episode? Andy: Well, I was looking, to be honest, I started my research after I sat down with my tea because, you know, we like to be current with the news. So I opened up the newspaper and apart from the usual shite, I noticed that there's the UK's worst street for road fines and it's in Birmingham. Apparently 277 drivers get caught daily. Mark: But this is speeding, is it? Andy: I guess it's speeding. Mark: Well it's not pa it could be parking fines. Andy: No, it's road fines. Well, could, whatever it is, it's 277 drivers a day. Now, if that's even a very modest £50, that's around about £13,850. Yeah, Mark: Yeah. Andy: about £13,850. Exactly. In fact, that's a fuckload of money for one road in Birmingham. Mark: I'll tell you why. Andy: to be robbing your residents of. Mark: I'll tell you why, I suspect it's a twenty mile an hour zone. Andy: Do know what? Talk about going back to the middle ages. Why don't we just have force you to have a man with a flag walking in front of the car? Mark: I tell you, if you were driving I wouldn't be s against having someone waving a flag. Andy: What is the point of having a car in a built up area these days? You're not allowed to park it anywhere? Fuck Mark: What to stop children being killed? Andy: the kids. If they're so stupid that they can't fucking cross a road without looking left and right, they deserve to die. Mark: God dear, I can tell you o only on your first you need you've got too much caffeine in that cup. You need to have caffeine free tea, Andy. Andy: No, honestly, mean, aren't you fed up? Well, you're not because you don't live there. But if you were Mark: Well y that is Andy: still in London and you had a car, you would feel very differently about the penalising that is going on for drivers. Mark: This is what I always find amu so amusing about you, Andy, is that you are so you are so easy to get worked up about things that have absolutely no impact on your life. You're talking about in Birmingham Andy: I'm doing it on behalf of people who count on me to be a voice for them. Alright mate, Mark: We got. Andy: I'm just talking to my listeners and beaming him. I'm on your side. Mark: Well, shall I tell you did I tell you my story about you know I I went on my driving holiday a few weeks ago. Andy: you're driving holiday. Did you have glasses and a flat cap? Mark: Leather gloves, absolutely. So I think I did mention it to you before. I got one speeding fine sent to my home in Sweden. Andy: Yes, that's right. From Switzerland. Mark: And did I told you what the have I already bored the listeners with this? It I Andy: No, I don't know. Mark: can tell you excess speed Andy: yeah, was one mile an hour. Mark: one kilometre an hour forty Swiss francs, which is basically Forty pounds. Andy: Yeah. Mark: Five hundred kroner for one kilometre excess speed. Andy: Don't do it again. Mark: Why bloody w I won't go back to Switzerland. Andy: That's what I mean, it's punitive. It's a ridiculous... It's just a cash grab, isn't it? All these car fines. It's just a cash grab. It doesn't do anything for road safety. It's just bullshit. Because 277 Mark: Yeah, but the twenty twenty Andy: people still speeding every day, but no excess deaths. What does that tell you? Mark: No but but you say that. You don't know anything about the reason why they put the speed camera there. Maybe it's outside of school. Andy: I know exactly why the speed cameras are near. Mark: You are such a Andy: hang on, what am I doing? Oops. Mark: What are you doing? Andy: That's why the cameras are there. Mark: You are such a cynic. Do you think there should be any driving laws whatsoever? Andy: I think like the Purge, once a week there should be no rules apply. Mark: What's the purge? Andy: The Purge is one day a year where all lore is cancelled. So you can kill, you can murder, you can rob, you can do whatever you want for one night of the year between dusk and dawn. Mark: And what would you be induced to do if you were given the freedom to break the law? Andy: you wouldn't be around to watch. Mark: I mean, d do you feel do you live a life that you feel is restricted by the laws that govern you? Andy: No, because I ignore the ones that really piss me off. Mark: I mean, I just don't I don't think well, all right, traffic laws, 'cause I do speed occasionally. Andy: I mean, I have never stopped at the end of a road where it's got the thick white line and you can see for five miles in each direction and it says stop and you have to, I mean, I've been in cars with people and they stop and I'm like, why have you stopped? Why? Mark: I do every time. Because the reason the stop sign is there is because you can't see five miles in both directions. Andy: No, but you can. In a lot of cases you can. And it's ridiculous. It's also like driving at night through Moora or any other fucking town. If you come to a red light and there are no headlights to be seen anywhere, the red light doesn't count anymore. It's fucking, it doesn't mean anything. Why would you stop? Mark: You are you sure your parents were Irish and not Italian? Andy: I just don't get it. Why would you elongate your journey unnecessarily? If Mark: So Andy: you're the only car on the road, why would you obey a traffic? Mark: Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right. I think yeah. Let let you make the judgment 'cause you're a very responsible person. Andy: Yes, yes I'm clearly better at it than these bloody town planners. Mark: I have a friend when we lived in the UK, she Andy: Okay, first of all, that's a lie, isn't it? Mark: was done by the same speed camera twice in the same day. Andy: Monday, good girl. Mark: The trip to school in the morning And the trip to school in the afternoon. She got done by the same speeding camera twice. Andy: I mean, that is pretty stupid. But they do it on purpose. put cameras outside places where they know people are in a rush. Yeah. Mark: Like yeah like schools. You're right. Why would you put a speed camera outside a school? Andy: And anyway, when did this school run thing become a thing? When I was a kid, we got on trains and buses, nobody, nobody got dropped off by their parents because their parents went to fucking work. Mark: Can you imagine I used to cycle to school? I think I started cycling to school when I was about 12 or 13, and that was a 45-minute cycle on dual carriageways. I used to have to take two buses to get to school. And I decided it was quicker and I preferred cycling all the way to school. It was about 14 miles, which is well, 14 English miles, 20k. Andy: Couldn't you just jump on the Hogwarts Express at King's Cross Station? 13 and three quarters. Mark: Yeah, platform three and a half or something. so that just would be unheard of today. Andy: I mean, I just don't get it. This school run business, it's a new phenomenon, new to us. Because in my day, it certainly never happened. No one got dropped off at school by their parents. It just never happened. Mark: no, but hang on a second. If you ever got involved in Hannah's schooling, her generation definitely got dropped off to school. My children got dropped. Andy: Nope, Hannah was on a bus. All the time. All the time, she's never been dropped off at school. Mark: My kids were when they were in the UK but not in Sweden, funnily enough. No, they they they were ten and twelve and they used to go to school by themselves. Andy: I had two jobs by the time I was 10 and 12 let alone being mollycoddled by nanny dropping me at the fucking daycare center. Mark: What were you, Andy? Andy: Did you go to Montessori where they teach you how to play for 50 grand a year? Mark: I didn't go to a Martis or good Catholic upbringing me. What were you doing when you were ten and twelve? Were you one of those runners? You know, when you're too young to be prosecuted, they they gave you d packets of drugs to deliver to the local chippy. Andy: Yeah, I was a drug mule. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, I had me paper around, and then I did my drug run. Mark: That's right. That doesn't exist anymore. Or maybe it does in England. I don't think so though. I I never did. Well, Andy: too dangerous now, it's like Deliveroo for paedophiles, isn't it? Mark: you say that. One of my friends, one of my school friends, was killed doing a paper round on his bicycle. I'll give you a name in a minute, poor chap. He must have been only twelve, thirteen. Andy: I mean, that's pretty awful. Mark: But the other thing that we used to do, do you remember this? you know when they used to have milkmen in electric milk floats? And you had you had the milkmen. Yeah, ex exactly. And Andy: yes, I had a Saturday job. I had a Saturday job with a milkman. Mark: and and youngsters used to help the milkmen deliver milk. Andy: Yeah, I told you I had a job with the Rag and Bone man as well. I did. the old iron. Eat the old iron. Buy or sell, eat the old iron. Mark: No you didn't. Any old iron, any old iron Ha What was his name steptoe and you were the son? Andy: I don't know, I was really really young. I was about 7 or 8. Mark: Well so they sat you on the horse did they and you had to shout In your dine, in your dine Andy: We sat on the horse, I was there for his company more than anything else. He just enjoyed the company of a young boy. Luckily, luckily Mark: my god. There used to be a lot of money in that. Andy: there were simpler times and he never once tried to kiss me. I Mark: Good. Thank God for that. Andy: remember it well because the excitement of being basically on a horse at my age in the middle of London, unheard of. Mark: I'm actually trying to think and embarrassingly I can't think of a Saturday job that I had. I must have had a Saturday job but Andy: No you mustn't. Your alliance and your trust fund would have seen to it that you and Nanny Mark: No, because Andy: were well catered for. On Saturdays we went to London Zoo or Madame Tussauds or a restaurant. Mark: Mode. Andy: We went to a restaurant. Nanny used to Mark: You idiot. I can tell you my Andy: love a restaurant. Mark: my brother who was six years older than me, he used to work at Carey's, which was the local hardware store, and my sister, who's ten years older than me, she used to work at Boots, the chemist. Andy: My sister was the second best prostitute in all of London. No. Mark: God. Do you have a sister? You don't, do you? No. dear. No, I Andy: Thank God, could you imagine, poor girl. Mark: Yes, I was gonna say, poor girl. You and your brothers picking on her. Andy: I wouldn't be picking on her. Mark: no, but yes, work today. I don't think even in Sweden the children are allowed to do Saturday jobs, are they? I don't think so. Andy: I don't know, I never thought about it, but Hannah used to work while she was at school. She used to do McDonald's. Mark: Yeah, but she was eighteen then. Andy: No, before she was 18 she was after school on Saturdays. Mark: I remember Hannah working at McDonald's actually. Andy: She was at McDonald's for a couple of years I think and that was before she started with the bishops. Then she did a couple of other jobs in between. Mark: I remember my friend who started at McDonald's in Baker Street Andy: got promoted. Mark: No, h on his first day they had a flood in the basement 'cause McDonald's Baker Street, the loser downstairs. And they said, Oi mate, your first day, you're the one who's gotta clean the drains and he just walked out, so he didn't even last a day at McDonald's. Andy: Quite right, quite right, because that is immediately that is industrial sized bullying. That's like, fuck you, first day you do the shit jobs. That is not the way you induct someone into a new career. Mark: What a career? What are you talking about? Of course it's the Andy: He could have been management material if he was properly nurtured. Mark: So you think the manager should have cleaned up the block drain? Andy: I think somebody should have at least showed him how it was done, not just get in there and get yourself covered in shite. Mark: Get your hands dirty. Anyway, he said no and left. That was it. Andy: Yeah, quite right, that learned them. They won't be doing that again. Mark: Do you know the first job that I can think of was actually working in the pub and I must have been eighteen at that time. Andy: I worked in a pub long before I was 18. I used to do Christmas and New Year's at pubs owned by mates of my dad. From the time I was 15 onwards, I guess. Mark: Yeah, but you weren't serving in the bar, you were picking up plates and glasses. Andy: Yes, no, I was serving in the fucking bar. This is the days of the locking when I was actually serving policemen in the bar. Yes, yes. Mark: You had lock ins with policemen in the bar. I can't rem I have a feeling that lock ins were actually there's nothing wrong with a lock in, you can do that. It becomes a private thingy book. Andy: No, no, no, no, only if you remove the till from the bar. If the till stays in place, absolutely illegal. Anyway, back Mark: but Andy: to the newspaper. One other story that caught my eye was this rather lovely young lady who jumped out of an aeroplane, collided with another skydiver and got knocked unconscious and she fell 10,000 feet without a parachute opening. And she survived. Mark: And that was some time ago. That was like ten years ago. She fell into a snow Andy: No, no this is Mark: covered tree. Andy: She said she can't wait to go up into the plane again, you idiot. She's 35. Mark: Excuse me. I Andy: She's rather attractive, I have to say. But obviously stupid. Mark: Well, there can't be there can't be much left of her if she's Andy: 10,000 feet to the ground before hitting a conifer tree which slowed her descent and it says here almost certainly saved her life. You think? Mark: Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Andy: She's a dental therapist. What the hell is that? Mark: What a dental therapist? Andy: Yeah, listen, I'm talking to your teeth now. I'm talking to your teeth now. You need to want to be flossed. Mark: She's not a dental psychologist, you idiot. She's a dental therapist. She just g does exercises for your jaw. Yeah, mm-hmm. Andy: What, teaches you how to chew? What a worthless job, honestly, another pretend job. What Mark: What are you talking about? Andy: was her degree in? Psychology? Mark: The way you disparage people What's the value of your job? I don't have one. And what university degree did you come out with, may I ask? You Hard knocks. Your life was one hot long holiday. Andy: University of life mate, University of hard knocks. I'm sure dental therapy has saved many many people's Mark: You are terrible. Andy: Anyway, she's done 425 jumps. I'm not knocking what she did and what she got away with or what she looks like because she is rather saucy. But I'm not going to have to listen. I wouldn't listen to her day, if you know what mean. How was your day? Well, I spoke to a guy. He had problems chewing. So what I'd Mark: Why do you think they all sound like Katie Price? Andy: was I taught him how to chew, innit? Mark: Katie Price, sorry, I know she's not a dental I think I think what her actual job of this woman is a dental hygienist, because I've never heard of a dental therapist before. That's not a job. I think Katie Price has discovered that her supposed millionaire boyfriend is in fact penniless. Andy: Yes, this ongoing saga of the fake marriage is just ridiculous. He's been in prison in Dubai since they've been married. He's, it's like she's taken off her wedding ring. She's put it back on. He's got tattoos of her kids names on his hands. It's like, fuck off with your fake stories every day about this worthless piece of trash. And she's now dumped him right because she found out he had £2.22 in his bank account. Mark: Is Katie Price from Essex? she is, is she? Andy: Yes, and if she's not, she should be. believe me, she doesn't speak like a well-educated young girl who's been to finishing school. Mark: Well what do you mean all you do is take the piss out of people who sound well educated and went to finishing school? Andy: Yes, because I treat everybody with equal contempt. Mark: Contempt and disdain you do, actually. Andy: Now I'm scrolling through this and I can find no date of when this actually happened. Mark: I think it was like ten or twenty years ago. Well she can't have been fifteen. Andy: I will be very, I will be very unimpressed. Mark: Well what is the what is it? The Daily Star or something you're reading that Andy: No, it's the current bun. But nobody in the comments is mentioning that this happened 10 years ago. So I'm thinking it's recent. Mark: Cause I reckon it was a snow covered conifer. Andy: She left the plane at 12,000 feet when she collided with another jumper. And this happened at Nottingham. So there was no snow covered conifers. and she plummeted to the ground at 150 miles an hour, passed out and completely helpless with no parachute. Now another jump, I think the secondary shoot is supposed to deploy automatically. Mark: No, it's not. Andy: Okay. Another jumper attempts to catch up with her as she span out of control, reaching out to her desperately with his hand. I think he probably after copping a field to be honest before, you know, but he couldn't grab hold of her in time before he was forced to deploy his own parachute when he reached 3000 feet. Meanwhile, Holly then disappeared from the footage into the patchwork of fields below. Mark: Well it wasn't a patchwork of fields, it was a bloody forest she must have landed in for Christ's sake. Andy: with a lone conifer tree which luckily Mark: In the middle of a f Andy: despite having no memory of the fall Holly was able at some point she was able to pull her ripcord she estimates this would have happened at about thousand feet five seconds before impact so she applied the brakes Mark: so she did deploy her p chute? Andy: so it's a non-story again really Although it wouldn't have opened fully in five seconds. Mark: Mm, it does open quite quickly, but nevertheless, I wouldn't want to have been examining her underwear when she discovered that she was Andy: See, this is the difference between me and you. I would. Because she's very pretty. Mark: I bet you I bet you would. Andy: here we go. Her secondary shoot then also deployed because it registered she was going too fast and was too low. So I was correct. Mark: What your emergency s your emergency chute deploys Andy: It has an altimeter attached to it automatically if you are going too fast and too low. Mark: I've never heard of that. Andy: Yeah, because you were talking, last time you heard about parachuting, it was in the 1888s or something, when the Wright brothers first thought, what happens if the fucking thing don't work? Mark: I'll have you know that my father used to be involved in parachutes parachutes. Andy: What was he, a nobbler? Mark: No, he used to he ran a company that made components for injection sheets. what I can't s Andy: Ejection sheesh. Mark: ejection seats from fast jets, military jets. Martin Baker. So there you go, I do know a thing or two about parachutes. Andy: Did you ever get to have a go in an ejector seat? Mark: no I didn't. But Dad did he did a a jump into Pool Harbour. And in his later years he's got this let letter from some Admiral Huhar or whatever thanking him, saying that there are not many directors of companies who actually go and test the products in person. and he was so proud of this letter that in his later years, when he was sort of ninety or something, we we actually laminated this letter so he was able to show it to people. I'm not surprising he was very proud of it. So he yeah, he jumped out of an aircraft into Pool Harbour using one of his own chutes. There you go. Dad's claim to fame. Sort of. Andy: He put his money where his mouth was because they're not ordinary parachutes clearly if they're attached to a chair. Mark: yeah, but they're not attached to the chair when the parachute deploys. Andy: So what happens the chair goes through the canopy and then you leave the chair and then the parachute deploys automatically. Mark: Basically, yes. Andy: So did he actually eject or did he just jump out of a perfectly good aeroplane? Mark: No no no. No no no. ejection seats are very good for saving people's lives, but they generally fuck up your back permanently. Because of the compression, the forces. I Andy: Yeah, give you all sorts of injuries. Mark: mean it's it's literally explosives that Andy: It's a car crash. Mark: that drive you hopefully not through the canopy, but in some cases if you're if you have very little time you go through the canopy. Normally you eject the canopy first and then you just eject on the sea. But can you imagine the forces on your back Andy: Yeah, when you headbutt the perspex roof. Mark: So you've got two ways of deploying the ejections, the ejection seat as I remember. You've got two pull tabs that you pull, it's like a sort of a a face mask. You pull it down over your face and then you go through the canopy, or there's one between your legs that you pull. Andy: I pull on that one quite often. Mark: The handle but Andy: was pulling on it this morning. Mark: did you eject anywhere? Andy: I ejected all over the place. Mark: yeah. Andy: My older brother and his wife have jumped out of many planes. Mark: he's he's a parachutist, is he? Andy: Yeah, when they first met he introduced her to the thrills of jumping out of perfectly good aeroplanes and they've done it many hundreds of times I guess. also travelled around the world riding the fastest, highest, scariest rollercoasters they could find. Mark: Your brother is a roller coaster man, is he? Really? Andy: Yeah. Yeah. Mark: And do you share this interest in roller coasters? Andy: I don't mind a roller coaster but I can't get excited about them. Mark: The only th I I enjoy a good roller coaster, but the only thing I can't tolerate is anything spinny. I can't Andy: no, I love the waltzes. I love them. Anything that gives you a Mark: No, no. Andy: bit of g-force. that's great. I would have made a great astronaut, except they don't exist. Mark: Exactly. Luckily there's no risk of you ever having been made a greater. You haven't missed out on anything, Andy. Because firstly Andy: Yeah, it's true. Mark: they don't exist and even if they do, you wouldn't have been accepted into astronaut school. You know, Alex, my son applied to astronaut school. Andy: Did he? Why? Mark: because about ten years ago they wanted European applications For astronaut school, but unfortunately he didn't even make it past the selection because he was too tall. There was a tight limit. Andy: Yeah because you need to be the size of a chimpanzee because the original modules, capsules were made for chimpanzee size people. Mark: You talk such nonsense. Andy: It's true. Mark: So they didn't design the capsule for humans and they tested it on chimpanzees. They designed it for chimpanzees and then sardine can. Andy: Have you never seen Planet of the Apes? Mark: Many years ago I have, yes. Andy: then you'll know from that documentary that the apes were actually proper astronauts. Mark: Yep. Yep. As was not Star Wars, Star Trek. Yep, Captain Kirk. Beam me up, Scotty. Andy: Captain Kirk would not be allowed today. Mark: What do you mean he is? He's he's around. Andy: Yeah, I know, but he wouldn't be allowed on the TV. Mark: Why what did he get up to? Andy: He fucked aliens. Mark: I wanna see. Andy: You can't just willy nilly make love to different species on TV. Mark: I don't think he did. I think he was together with Hahula or whatever her name was. Andy: Yeah, he did do Hooroo as well, but he did do all of them. Anything that had a skirt on, alien, human, he Mark: The things you Andy: would either stun it or bang it. He had Mark: The things you remember. Andy: two settings on his penis, stun or bang. Mark: right, I think we're gonna have to do a chat GBT check. How many aliens did Captain Kirk sleep with? Andy: I mean, I'm telling you, it's more than one. I remember one in particular, because I would have as well. I was only 11. Mark: What is that the one with three breasts? Do you remember that character with Andy: God, no, was in one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's films. Total Mark: was it? Andy: recall. Mark: What she had three breasts, did she? Andy: Yes, perfect as well. She opens her top and it was like... Mark: my god. Andy: It's the perfect number. don't know why God never thought of that. One for each Mark: You're right. Andy: hand and one in the middle. Mark: I wonder why he limited it to two. I wonder how many other animals have two. well most monkeys and chimpanzees. Andy: I think it's because of the way we breed, it's the amount of children we can bear. It's normally the maximum would be two. It's very rare that you get triplets and above. Whereas cows, they can have three or four foals perhaps, and that's why they've got so many udders. Or foals. Mark: Or even calves. It would be quite un it would be quite unusual if a cow gave birth to a foal. Andy: If it shagged a mule... Yeah, okay, I'll give you that one. My brain Mark: Yeah. Andy: wasn't quite engaged before my mouth took off, took its foot off the brake. Mark: Sorry, you can explain to me, I always forget. What is a donkey? Is a donkey some something like a horse a Andy: No, a mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey. Mark: And can they procreate? Can they produce babies? Andy: No, no. They are generally female. It's not often you get a male. It's either Mark: Donkey. Andy: not often you get a male or not often you get a female. They generally come out one sex. Mark: So mules exist. Andy: Yes. Mark: Well they they reproduce all the time. Mules can reproduce. donkeys Andy: No, donkeys. Donkeys exist. Mark: can reproduce. Right. Andy: So what have you got for us anyway? I've done all of this work so far. Mark: I was you mentioned last week that you were talking about the gentleman and I said that the new series was out. It is out, 'cause I am currently watching it. Andy: Yes. Yes, I saw they had that red carpet thing going on. Mark: Yeah. And it's good. Yes. Andy: And is it... is it... is that because Megan's not in it? Mark: Well you say that, but wasn't there some controversy that the rest of the cast shunned Megan from the premiere? Andy: I would as well. I would as well because just don't try and get reflected glory off our success. Go away, you irrelevant person. Just go away. You're nothing to do with the gentleman. And stop getting your PR people to spread rumours like you're going to make some kind of amazing comeback in the UK. It's not going to happen. Mark: But unfortunately, I don't think I'm spoiling the plot to any extent, your favourite character, the loser brother, the drug addicted loser brother, he doesn't really feature in this series. Andy: yeah, he's not a loser. Well he's not there, didn't he get killed in the last one? Mark: No. No, no, no, he didn't get killed. He he got carted off to a rehabilitation center Andy: God bless you. Mark: where he is now residing. But I I've only watched four episodes out of eight. So he may come back into the story. He obviously had other acting commitments and I'm surprised he wanted to come back after them having made him dress up as a chicken master. Andy: That was one of the best funniest scenes I've ever seen. Mark: You've got to you've got to live it or whatever the fellow was Exactly. Andy: Yeah, make me believe it. Mark: Exactly. Who was it? Was it Ross Winters or whatever his name was? Who no it wasn't. It was some loser, 'cause he ended up getting shot, didn't he? It's a good little story, I have to say, I mean, you know. Guy Ritchie has done well. He's maintained the momentum of the first series. Andy: I mean it was a... it's just a good entertaining series. I haven't seen it because I no longer have Netflix. Mark: well maybe I can give you one of my subscriptions to Netflix. Andy: Well, you have several. Mark: Well, I'm just thinking, don't Netflix don't you have five people who can watch Netflix? I see they've changed that, have they? Andy: No, no, no, no, no, no, not anymore. Yeah, they used to be able to, they used to promote it, share your Netflix with a friend. Not now. You want Netflix, you pay for it. Mark: alright, okay, well then yeah. That won't happen. Andy: Well, thought I was going to get something out of you, but no. Mark: now just a a little bit concerning, when you speak your screen gets a yellow border, when I speak it doesn't. Andy: Yes, I see your yellow. Mark: I see, alright, yeah. So anyway, the gentleman you mentioned, that's a a good piece of news. That's promoting entertainment. If anybody anybody has access to Netflix, the gentleman. I've got two news stories that caught my eye. One of them's completely trivial, but did you read did you see the report of that fellow who was flying first class in the States? And He caused such a ruckus by insulting some of the cabin crew Andy: Good man. Mark: the other passengers duct taped him to his seat. Well it might duck Andy: Where did they get the duct tape from? First of all I would be very suspicious of anyone on a plane carrying duct Mark: Well it was just what the hell would you have to do for other passengers to get involved and lit 'cause there's photographs of him ductate round his head and his mouth and his chest and his arms. Andy: good, I would have put it all in his hair and everything. Mark: 'cause he was abusing the cabin crew. And Andy: Well fair enough because they are bringing you your champagne and your foie gras. Mark: It well, yeah, I don't you get foie gras on an American Airlines flight in the States. You'd be lucky if you get a bag of cheese mat. Big Mac. Exactly. Andy: no, you'd get a Big Mac. You'd get a Big Mac and a large fries. Just like the prez. Mark: and I was thinking I don't have you ever been on a flight where there's a destructive passenger? Andy: I have been that distra- Mark: Passenger, I can imagine that. Luckily I don't remember ever being on a flight where there was someone causing trouble. Andy: I have been on a flight with a Panacar. Mark: what who what started Andy: Hmm. Mark: codes really? And what did you do? Slap him round the face? Andy: Slapped her! Mark: it was a her, was it? Andy: No, I had woman, a girl, really. She was sat next to me once and she was very fidgety and I ended up holding her hand. Mark: Did you? Andy: And I was, but, you know, she wasn't my cup of tea or anything. I was just being neighborly. And there was Mark: Nice. Andy: one time when we were, me and a girlfriend I had at the time were flying back from Greece and it came over the... Tanoy, because we noticed we were circling London on the way home. And it came over to Tanoy, ladies and gentlemen, we've encountered a small problem, just a small technical difficulty. We're just going to circle the tower. And we thought, what's going on? So about five minutes later, says, what's happened is Mark: Lost an engine. Andy: we've got no indicators saying that the wheels have locked in position. when they come down and the tower can't be sure to tell us so we're gonna use the emergency procedure and we're gonna come into land and everyone will assume the position so Mark: Yeah, yeah. Really? Andy: yeah so I'm sitting, we're in a row of three seats, my girlfriend's by the window, I'm in the middle, and there's an empty seat beside us, and there's a really lovely young lady sitting in the opposite row on her own. So I've seen an opportunity. I said to me girlfriend, Mark: Well Andy: I think she's on her own, maybe she wants to come and sit with us, she said, don't you fucking dare. Selfish bitch, could have been our last minutes. I just wanted to go out sandwiched between Mark: I mean, Andy: two chicks. Mark: that is that is a serious situation if they don't know what the state of the undercarriage is. Andy: yeah, I mean when the pilot came out, there was nothing wrong in the end. And when the pilot came out he got a raucous round of applause, not from Mark: Hmm. Andy: me, because I don't really get worked up about stuff like that. If you're going to go in flames, you're going to go in flames. There's nothing you can do about it. There's no point in crying about it. So when we landed, he came out of the cabin. He looked like he'd just been on a 20-hour bender. His hair was Mark: really? Andy: everywhere, his shirt was unbuttoned, he was dripping with sweat. He was shitting himself. And then that's when it hit me that maybe it could have been rather serious. Mark: Yeah, well the thing is you don't know until you actually touch down, and even once you touch down it can collapse. Hmm. Andy: Yeah, that's only way it works. Mark: So that was the most traumatic that you have experienced. I don't think I've even Andy: That made me think though of the serious design flaws all these aeroplanes have. All those wheels open up in the wrong direction. They should open up the other way so that if the wheels don't lock in position they can't collapse because the force of the inertia is pushing them into their normal locked position. Mark: Christ Andy, I I think you should get a job at Boeing. I can't imagine anybody hasn't thought of that before. Andy: I am obviously a fucking genius when it comes to aerocraft, to aerocraft-ic planetarium thingies. Mark: Ha ha ha. Andy: And I should definitely be given a job. Mark: I can tell you funny enough, I d you know, I I did fly quite a lot when I was working. Never I can't even remember the the most traumatic incident w was when the girl next to me, flying back from a banky conference, was nearly throwing up into her sick bag on the way home. but Izzy, who who was quite a nervous flyer, the first time she flew by herself And I think she must have been maybe fifteen or sixteen. She was a nervous flyer. They actually went round at Heathrow Airport, and I've never heard of a flight having to make having to go around. So they they were literally on the approach, they were as she said, very close to the ground, and then suddenly, full throttles and up, up and away again. Andy: I've done that, I've landed and been on the runway and then taken off again. Yeah. Yeah. Mark: Really? A go-around. Andy: And I thought, was he practicing landing? But the thing is, I didn't even think that because I just registered, we're down. And then I Mark: And then you know. Andy: went back to my book waiting for us to stop and I've looked out the window again and we're not down anymore. Huh? Mark: Yeah. Andy: What the fuck is going on here? Have we been hijacked? Mark: Ha ha ha Andy: It's very strange to what goes on. Mark: Anyway, that was the story of the man on the plane. So he was arrested. They diverted. He was arrested. And Andy: I would have sued everyone for assault. Mark: Well well that is very funny you say that. Andy: He's American. He's gonna. Mark: He's been arrested, he's lost his job, a lifetime ban from the airline, and he's got prosecuted for I don't know what distur interfering with aircrew, which is a crime in America. And I thought if I was him and he's obviously a bit of a troublemaker, clearly I w I might be tempted to sue the passengers that duct taped him to the seat. Andy: Yeah, that's assault. Assault with a sticky weapon. Mark: It's lucky there wasn't one of these air marshals on board, otherwise they would have shot him. Andy: No it's not often you'll get them discharging their weapons in mid air because you could puncture the fuselage. Mark: And what would happen? Andy: Decompression. You put a small hole in a fuselage that is compressed, you could cause the whole thing to actually implode. Mark: No. Andy: don't trust engineers mate, they're like doctors. Fucking witch doctors. Mythbusters was bullshit. It was a scam program. It Mark: No but didn't they do that on Mythbusters? Mythbusters. Do you remember that series? No it wasn't. It wasn't. Andy: was. Mark: They made a bridge out of duct tape. Andy: Please. And they drove across it. Mark: No, they walked across it actually. Andy: Drive across it with a cheifton tank if you want to impress me. Mark: so the other news story that caught my eye, and this will get you going, it relates to Ghislaine Maxwell. Andy: pause your thing. Mark: Exactly what I thought you would say. Andy: No, but I mean, I do sort of feel a bit sorry for her because she's being used as a scapegoat for Donald Trump. Mark: For Donald Trump What? Andy: Yeah, because as long as someone is in prison for Epstein, even though it's a woman, as long as one person is in trouble, Donald Trump is safe. Mark: Well, you know that transfer that happened miraculously after Todd Blanche went to interview her. Do you remember Andy: and she went to get sent to an easier jail. Mark: Well, not easier, the easiest type of jail. She's she's in almost a holiday camp. And Todd Blanche has refused to admit any involvement in in the why she was transferred. Because as you say, she's obviously done a sweet deal. You transferred me to a low security jail, and I won't tell how many times I saw Donald Trump shagging 13-year-old girls or raping 13-year-old girls. And so one journalist thought, well hang on a second, there must have been some sort of documentation to support the transfer. So they do have this Freedom of Information Act in America. So he applies to see the transfer document. So the prison services stall him for six months. And eventually they concede that he is entitled to see the transfer order, so they send it to him. And you've got this great big long form with all sorts of questions like what are the exceptional circumstances to want to transfer the prison, all of that. Who who is requesting this transfer to be made? So on this whole long form. What was the only thing that wasn't redacted? Andy: The name of the woman. So they just blacked out everything Mark: Gislaine Maxwell. That was it. The only thing Andy: else. Mark: ever well it'd been wiped it out, actually, but everything else had been redacted. But Andy: So how is that freedom of information? Mark: you're asking me, of course, it's ridiculous. It's Andy: just bollocks isn't Mark: patently absurd. So Gislaine Maxwell it's it's so obvious that she has got dirt on on on Trump. Andy: See if she wanted to really redeem herself she would throw her own sense of self preservation to the wind and actually make a fucking statement. Try and go out with a little bit of dignity and actually bring down the fuckers who were responsible for such an amount of pain and misery. Mark: No, but the thing is that as long as she's in prison They are in control of who visits her and who she can talk to. So even in the low security prison, you can't have anybody willy-nilly walking in and interviewing her. And obviously, she appreciates that if she ever did spill the beans, firstly that news would never come out and she would be dead within hours. I mean there's no doubt about it. Andy: That's what I'm... Would that just be proof of the pudding? Mark: Yeah, but w No, but I mean there's no Andy: deserves it. She played her part. Mark: Well no no no absolutely. I'm not saying she's innocent of anything, I'm thinking she's guilty as hell. But the point is that there are so many people that have disappeared, committed suicide, died in their sofa from unknown causes that have been linked to whistle blowing situations with what Trump has done, and that no one's battered an eyelid. It's so patently obvious. Andy: Have you seen his late one of his latest tricks? Well, it's Hegseth anyway, has denied one of the soldiers who died during the Iran conflict, not a war. Denied entitlement for widows, widows bereavement for war widows because it's not a war. It's not a war, you see. I'm Mark: yes, his due entitlement to Yeah, dying in service. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Andy: afraid. According to Donald Trump, it's a war he's won 48 times already and he's still winning. Mark: Yeah. So he was being interviewed, Hegseth, and a reporter said Well what's the logic by denying this serviceman's widow and three children an in combat death retirement pension? And w and he said, Will you commit to doing the right thing? And the only thing he would commit to, I will ensure that she gets everything she's entitled to. Andy: Yeah, which is basically what she's getting. Mark: That that wasn't the question. Because they're claiming that she's not entitled to combat death because it's not technically a war. So he's just saying, yeah, we'll carry on doing exactly the same thing. Andy: I'm afraid it is a war because they declared war on Iran. Whether they Mark: Well Andy: actually said the words is irrelevant. Mark: But it it it always begs the bigger question Who the hell in the military is willing to get on their knees and he's not even sucking him off, he's literally licking his ass by accepting these sort of conditions. What is where's the backbone in the military to stand up to these people? all right, yeah, I don't want to upset the apple cart. Andy: Yeah, we do it with towel. Mark: it's absolutely pathetic. No wonder they haven't been able to do anything effective in defeating Iran because they're all bloody pussies who are running the military. Andy: Well, imagine calling yourself a general and taking orders from a fucking pedophile, rapist, convicted felon who avoided joining the army in the first place by inventing a whole new condition. Mark: No, I I completely agree. I think I but but as I say, it begs the question, why are they still taking the orders? Andy: Well because you know what happened when Trump first took power he sacked everyone he didn't like the look of. I don't like the cut of your Mark: No no no Hegseth is sacking he's still sacking. Andy: jib. Mark: No no no, absolutely right. Heggseth is sacking black admirals and any any women or black people who are coming up for promotion, it's automatically denied. But why are the authorities why are the military authorities accepting all of this? Why don't they just tell him to get on his bike? Andy: because they're fucking faggots. Mark: There's something wrong with them, clearly. 'cause he was being interviewed the other day as well, Hexeth. Anyway, but the other person in the news, do you know the trade secretary in America, Ludnik or something his name Andy: Nope. Mark: is? He was telling an interviewer the other day. Why do people talk about water? And these data centers, they don't use any water, it's electricity they use. Andy: Is he a, is he a moron? Mark: Well clearly he is a moron Andy: How does he think they call the servers? Mark: No but this is the point. They don't use water, they use electricity. I mean it's just like Andy: What do you want about? It's like them wind turbines, they create wind, they don't use wind and anyway it's American wind. Mark: Exactly. Unfortunately, not that I have any sympathy for him whatsoever, but I have a feeling I have a feeling he was head of Canter Fitzgerald, which is a city broker who whose whose entire American operation were killed in the nine eleven attack. I think that's Cantor's. Anyway, whatever. But c I mean why d how can he possibly believe that people are so stupid that they don't know that data centers use water? Andy: only water they use industrial scale it's like they empty Mark: Water. Andy: lakes Mark: Yeah, I was telling you and I I I I still haven't been able to fact check it, but Alex, my son Alex, was telling me that in America th they use this i th the water that comes in just gets flushed out hotter, whereas in England or Europe the data centres have Andy: They recycle it. Mark: a cir circulation water and cooling towers and things. Anyway, whatever, I thought that was just you know. But the thing is that don't you feel that you're getting what's it called? Numb. You know, th th the the depth of stupidity and corruption is such that you just can't process it anymore. Andy: I think most people are like me now. They just don't care anymore. There's nothing you can do because the lunatics are in charge of the asylum and we're not in a position to do anything about it. Well, Mark: You mean being in Europe, we're not voting. Andy: mean, not even if you're voting, you can't do anything about it because no matter which lunatics you vote for, they all do the same thing. You're voting for the same shit. Nothing. changes and nothing will change because the whole Mark: No, but no. Andy: political system is corrupt. Mark: No, but you know I disagree with that completely. You're just letting Andy: Yeah, I know. Mark: them off the hook. By saying that. It's like when you s you are, you are. Andy: I'm not letting anyone off the hook, I'm just saying that all politicians need to be hung. Mark: No, but just i th there is no depth to your argument. If you s are you saying that Donald Trump is the same as Joe Biden? Andy: I'm saying that Donald Trump is the same. In fact, watch out for what comes after Donald Trump, because the next guy is going to go, if he can get away with that, what can I get away with? Mark: No, but all I'm saying is you say they're all the same they're not all the same. I'm I'm not saying Biden was a great president, but he wasn't a f you know, a corrupt I I mean, whatever. Biden was well meaning and useless. D Andy: He was never awake for any period of time that he could do anything corrupt. Mark: No, but I'm saying yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I know. But so so it does make a difference who you vote for. You can't get more of a contrast between but Andy: It doesn't because the, no, but the country, it doesn't make a difference to the country. The country will still go in the same direction it's always heading in, which is down in every case. It's in the down in the case of the UK, it's down in the case of the United States, and it's not going to change. Mark: come on. You've got to give your namesake a chance. Your mate Andy is gonna change the world. Andy: Please, tosser. He shouldn't even be allowed to run for Prime Minister. He wasn't even an MP three weeks before this nonsense. Mark: Wha what have you got to Wha sorry, what is it that Andy Burnham has done to upset you? He's only been there three weeks. Andy: He was on the side of Tony Blair when he entered Afghanistan. Mark: you're right actually, yeah, he does have that pretty serious black mark. Andy: Fucking war criminal. That's what he is. That's what he did. Mark: Yeah, you're right, actually. But maybe he's changed. He's he's Andy: So yeah, I have a long memory. Mark: You have a long memory for all No Exactly. Andy: I've got no short term memory but I can't remember what I had for breakfast. Mark: No, but as I say, I always you know, it's y your classic line, all politicians are liars you know, that's just it's literally letting them off the hook. No they're not, and they shouldn't be. If you accept Andy: But it's literally true as well. But it's literally true. Mark: that yeah, well I don't accept it. They should not be liars. Andy: Until we have a revolution, the country is lost. And that's every country. Mark: What what shape of revolu what what was this what's this revolution going to look like? Andy: bloody I hope. Mark: For God's sake. Andy: I honestly, all these fucking talking heads, these gobs on sticks that come on and yes, well, when we're in power, we're going to do this, we're going to do You liar. What you're going to do is lie in your own pockets. We all know this. We need government by the people for the people. We need MPs that do not get a salary, that are not appointed to heads of corporations, and that are not susceptible or even available for bribery. We need people who do it out of a sense of civic duty, like in the good old days. Mark: Like Nigel Farage, he does it for civic duty purposes, I'm sure. Andy: yeah, yeah, of course. Nigel Mark: Yeah. Andy: Farage is finished. He's dug his own grave. Mark: It's the thing is that these days the reporting is such I read an article over the weekend that he'd resigned. But I don't think he has. But Andy: I don't know. Mark: I mean how do you tell? What how can you tell what's real and what's not these days? It's a bloody minefield. Andy: Well, you can't. You can't because if you read the newspaper or look through your feeds on Facebook or Instagram or wherever you get your news from these days, because you get articles that claim to be from reliable sources appearing everywhere now. And you just don't know what's true and what's not. It's like Trump. Mark: I reckon Andy: Trump is also What's his latest one? yeah, he dismissed the alleged 18 dead servicemen in Iran as small potatoes. Mark: No, that's right, yeah. Andy: It's like, yes, fuck you. You Mark: Yeah. Andy: unempathetic fucker. You fat orange pumpkin looking mofo. Mark: The whole problem would be solved if Baron, other than being deported, which apparently he should be, he should Andy: and also imprisoned. Mark: he should join up. Andy: He should, no, because they'd have to get him a bespoke uniform because of his Mark: Ha ha ha Andy: freakish height. And he's got Mark: Ha ha ha. Andy: to have a Humptyback. I mean, at that height, you can't not have a Humptyback because gravity must be doing its work on you. Monster! Mark: What's a humpy pack? a hump pack, a hump the Who was that fellow with the pokey eyes? No, but who who pl Andy: Quasimodo. Marty Felburn. Mark: Marty Fellman who played him in Frankenstein or something. Andy: Yes, Frankenstein, the young Frankenstein. You know, Mark: What got us onto this now anyway? Andy: he actually died on set. Mark: What, Marty Fellman? Andy: Yeah. Mark: What did he die of? He had a heart attack or something, I assume. Andy: He had a heart attack, he was locked in a chest. And Mark: What? Andy: yes, was on the set, he was locked in a chest and he climbed into the chest and he had a heart attack inside and he died. Mark: What so they opened the chest hoping he was gonna jump out Uhhuh, scared you and in fact he was Andy: No, he was in there for a reason. Obviously part of the film was he had to hide. I can't remember what film it was. Two or three days max, it was like, Mark: How long do they leave him in this chest? Andy: it wasn't long. But it's like, who else died on set? Oliver Reed, Mark: I can't. Andy: he died during the making of Gladiator, didn't he? Mark: Did he? Andy: Yeah. Mark: But what do you mean he starred in the movie? He must have died towards the end. Andy: Yes, they completed the movie without Oliver, but they used scenes that they filmed him in earlier. Mark: Oliver Reed died during the filming of Gladiator. He played the s the Andy: The Slave Dealer. Mark: no, the gladiator dealer. Andy: Well, yeah, slave dealer. Let's call it what it is. It's not like you went to him and said, I'm a gladiator. Do you want to represent me? wasn't an agent. He captured people and used them and sold them as gladiators. Mark: No, no no he didn't capture people. I think people captured them and then sold him sold them to him because he was the gladiator master. Andy: I think the word slave still comes into it quite largely. Mark: You're right, but anyway. is that right? I'll have to watch that movie again and see if you can tell what at what point in the movie he pops his clogs. Andy: It's a shame because that's one man I would have loved to have met in a pub. Mark: Well, you had a s pretty good chance of meeting him in a pub because Andy: I Mark: he lived in London. Andy: I know. And I mean, I'm sure we would have been fast friends. Mark: You might your paths might have crossed with Oliver Reed. Andy: No, I would remember. in fact, I wouldn't remember. That's the whole point. Mark: sorry, what got us onto that? God dear. Andy: Marty Feldman for some reason. Mark: that's right, Marty Fellman. He was was he American or was he English? Andy: No, I think he was English, Marty Feldman. I might be wrong though. Mark: Mm. He used he used to appear in a lot of Mel Brooks Mel Brooks movies. Andy: Mel Brooks, yeah. Yeah. Mark: Blazing Saddles. Andy: Yes. Mark: Young Frankenstein was the Andy: I said Young Frankenstein. Mark: you did, did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's dead as well, isn't he, Mel Brooks? Andy: Yes, Mark: Mm. Andy: I think so. I haven't heard anything from him for a long time. Mark: Well, he must be in his nineties if he's still alive. Andy: He was great. No books. He featured quite heavily in the early career of Richard Pryor. Mark: Did he? Mel Brooks. Andy: Yeah. Mark: Blazing Saddles. Richard Pryor was in Blazing Saddles. Andy: No he wasn't. Mark: What? Andy: No, everyone makes that mistake. He WAS supposed to be, but he was replaced by another black actor at the last minute. Mark: A look alike. Andy: No, he wasn't even a lookalike. I've read Richard Pryor's biography. It's fairly interesting, but it's very bitter. Mark: He's very bitter. Andy: Yeah, he was an unhappy man most of his life. Mark: Was it well, I mean a lot of comedians unfortunately are, but he had a Andy: He was an abuser as well, he used to beat women and he was just a nasty human being. Mark: What and you read about that in his autobiography or h Andy: know his biography. Mark: I see. Yeah. Andy: I think it was called Becoming Richard Pryor or other such nonsense. Mark: Is that something that you do quite often? Read biographies? 'Cause I never read biographies. Andy: I read all sorts of stuff. I'm a glutton for literature of any kind. Mark: Yes, maybe I I wonder who I would find interesting to read their biography. Andy: I tell you who you if you're going to start with biographies start with David Niven. Mark: F what as a random nineteen sixties famous English actor? Andy: Believe me, I think he was my first ever biography and it turned me, in fact that's an autobiography, it's called The Moon's a Balloon and he did a follow-up called Bring on the Empty Horses. Mark: Alright. Andy: Both of them fantastic books. Mark: I think the closest I've come and it may have been a biography, I read Barack Obama. Did he do a biography an autobiography? Andy: I wouldn't read anything by an American president, honestly. Mark: Or even Barack Obama. Andy: Why even? It's not like he did anything great. He's done nothing memorable. Mark: He was the first black president of the United States of America. Andy: an accident of birth. Well done you. Mark: Whoa what do you mean it's quite an achievement in America for God's sake? Well we're not gonna knock Andy: Yes, but what people don't realise is that a lot of drunken rednecks voted for him for a joke. And then the next morning they went, he fucking won? Mark: what's going to be interesting is if Trump stands for a third term Andy: He can't. He literally cannot legally do it. Mark: But that doesn't make f legally do it. He's in control of all the legal system. He can do what he likes. He's Andy: That has to be a step too far for everybody because that then is expressing that you are a dictatorship now. Mark: No, but the what I'm going to s what I was going to say was, if Trump does stand for a third term, you know what I would do? I would put Barack Obama up against him. I'll tell you what I t I seriously think that even with the corrupt voting systems and everything, three quarters of American people would vote for Barack Obama. Andy: You could put Count Binface up against him and he would still lose. There's no way Trump could ever win another fucking election. Mark: Yeah, w we're j we're just about in four weeks' time we're going to find out how right or wrong you are, Andy. So what are you predicting so Andy: I'm always right, remember, when it comes to American elections. Mark: what are you predicting for the midterms? Andy: don't even know who's standing. Mark: Well what do you mean? It's basically a a a midterm check on whether people like what the Republicans are doing or they don't. It's as simple as that. Andy: Landslide, no they do not. Landslide. He's going to lose both houses. He will be absolutely Mark: I mean Andy: impotent. But then again he doesn't consult with the houses anyway. He just makes executive orders and calls it law. Mark: Yes. No, you're right. Well we'll find out 'cause it is coming out I think it's literally four or five weeks away now, November something or other. Andy: Well, that's kind of eight weeks away. Mark: no. you're Andy: It's September now. Mark: right, it's the beginning of September, not the beginning of October. Hmm anyway Andy: Yeah, let's not fool our listeners into thinking we are way ahead on our recordings. This is happening like Mark: T. Andy: the day before yesterday. Mark: All our listeners. What are you talking about? Andy: Anyway, talking of fooling our listeners, think we've rambled on for enough shite for one day. Mark: Really? Alright. I quite enjoy our ramblings. yes, of course. Alright, well well done. Well you didn't do anything, but well done anyway. Andy: I have phone calls to make as well. So, well, call that it for speaking shite today. I hope you sat down in your living room like we did and enjoyed our living room chat and joined in a bit of screaming. Mark: Yes. Shouting at the shouting at your headphones, you idiots. Andy: We did get a correction actually from Richard. He'd listened to last week's Speaking Shite and he Mark: And what correction? Andy: informed me that The Rocky Horror Show was in fact first released in 1975. We said Mark: All right, and what did you say? Andy: the 80s. which I thought was reasonable, but then thinking back, yeah, actually I remember seeing it when I was still in my teens. Mark: You were still wearing shorts. Andy: I was wearing shorts till I was 34. Mark: You were actually I've seen the video. Andy: Anyway, yeah, so that's it for this week. Thanks for listening. Hope you enjoyed Mark: All right. Yep. Yep. Andy: the total shite that we just spoke. Mark: What do you mean? It was very informative. Andy: and we'll see you same time same place next week. In the meantime, don't forget tomorrow we have part two of our first ever murdery bits and yeah it's a pretty terrifying one. I don't know if you'll ever even bother listening to it but it's Mark: Well I won't, but Andy: called the Ant Hill Kids. Mark: God. Andy: It's really quite interesting. You should have a listen, know, don't turn yourself off just because you were a bit squeamish. Although at the end of the recording, Richard said, well, I know you said it was going to be a tough one, Mark: Gory. Andy: but that was seriously tough. Anyway, and, Mark: Yeah. All right. Andy: yep, and of course we'll see you again on Sunday as normal with strange stuff. In the meantime. Mark: Excellent. Andy: Have yourselves a great week. Speak shite to people and listen to shite. In fact, just go to the Mark: Yeah. Andy: pub and be your normal best selves. See you later. Bye for now. Mark: Exactly. Yep. Bye for now.