speaker-2: You're literally leaving your home country with speaking without speaking language, without your your food, without your people, without your family. You're you're traveling thousands and thousands of miles away. Why don't you just freaking shoot for the moon? speaker-1: Yes. Excited to jump in and chat about a few things. We wanna start with leadership being lonely. We wanna talk about men being men. We wanna talk about the immigrant mindset. What are we what are we jumping into here? speaker-0: I kinda wanna hear a little bit of before we step into, all the different pieces, I I I wanna hear a little bit of what do you do again? what's your story of where you at today, like business wise, and then then I wanna jump into yeah, the background so then it even makes more sense if that's cool. I like it. So Carlos, who who are you? Who's this Carlos dude? speaker-2: I was gonna say, how those shows make the super cool intro of somebody? I'm like, I don't wanna say that about myself. What would what speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: would you say about me? I don't know. speaker-0: Yeah, how about how about Peter? Yeah. How did you first meet Carlos? speaker-1: Well, it's funny, man. So it was an Instagram bromance, I think. He he saw Melissa and I, my wife and I on a we were on a live webinar with a friend of ours and he reached out because I think you were new you weren't in Dana Point yet. speaker-2: Not yet. I have bought my property but I hadn't moved in yet. speaker-1: Yeah, and so you reached out and then just 'cause you're a local guy and then and then you s you s shortly after that moved. And and then and then I think we maybe posted about Pearside Saints, the men's group, and then you came. Yeah. but I think we hung out before then, I can't remember. Or maybe we met there. speaker-2: Yeah, we made our Bible study. speaker-1: Yeah, so But yeah, how would I describe you? I would introduce you as the you're like my brother from another mother is as far as like, you know, immigrant story, grinder mentality, sky's the limit, multiple businesses into real estate. He's the tallest Hispanic guy that you've ever met in your whole life. That's how I introduce him. Basket blakes basketball, basketball league, but loves people deeply. And sees potential in them and wants to see them strive for it. So I know we'll talk a lot about that today. So and just a freaking good dude. speaker-0: Yeah. One of our last videos that we posted of us, I posted it and I had a couple people reach out like, Hey, that's Carlos. you know him? And I was like, Yeah, he's a great dude. He's like, bro, he he's awesome. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: but but yeah, so like that was something else that I thought was really cool was when I posted it, everyone was like, Hey, that's Carlos. And it just shows that you make a impact and make an imprint with the people that come around you. And I re even remember when I first met you over at the guys' group down at in San Clemente. It's just like I was like, This is a good dude. He has a good heart. And then we ran into each other at lifetime and then yeah, you know, he shows me up with his muscles, but that's okay. You know, I'm okay with that. speaker-2: No, thank you guys. Thank you. Appreciate it. appreciate being here and I'm grateful for the opportunity. And and yeah, I mean I think Peter hyped me up a little too much there, but I'm just I'm just grateful and really just try to be intentional about how I live life. And I moved here at the age of sixteen from Mexico by myself. I didn't speak English, didn't have any money. my dad basically just made a call to a to a distant aunt that lived in Santa Ana in here in Orange County. I had never met her. she lived in a one bedroom apartment with her husband and her kids, her two kids. And my dad called her and said, Hey, like Carlos is looking for a better opportunity. There's not much here in our in our town. I wasn't hanging out with the with the right crowd and she said, Well, there's gonna be six of us in a one bedroom apartment, but we'll we'll make it happen. And obviously by by the grace of God and and her generosity, like my dad put me in a plane, he had to borrow money and I I crossed over and Never look back. slept on the floor for two years. And I think just having the the realization right away of the sacrifice that my parents made from the beginning allowed me to really like get after it and not not just beat somebody that came over and and and didn't take advantage of of the opportunity. Yeah. speaker-0: What shifted for you? what was the mindset shift that helped you to go, I can actually produce, I can create, versus let me just take a nine to five job that I have to work my way up? Like what what was that moment that helped you? speaker-2: So when I moved here, I originally moved because I wanted to make it to the NBA. So I was I was obsessed with basketball. I was the kid that lifted for two for two hours, took a thousand shots a day, did a skills training and then went and played pickup. Like you're you're talking six to eight hours in in on the basketball court and and that was a dream. Like really, like I wanted to I wasn't gonna go back until I made it. and as I so I graduated high school. went to college and and that's a whole nother story and journey. But to answer your question, I think seeing seeing people succeed around me and seeing the the things that people around me were doing at a sc at scale, it kinda opened my eyes to the opportunity and to the belief that I could do it as well. One thing I noticed right away, so where my aunt lived in Santa Ana, it's a little pocket where it's all Latinos. And it's it's quite far from the high school that I went to in Irvine. And for some for some reason that's how it worked. The district made it work. But what I wanna share is that all of my friends like my teammates, they're all like Asian, white and just American, American people, American All the Latinos lived in that little pocket in Santa Ana and everyone else lived on Tostin Ranch, right in front of the golf course. And I would go to their houses, you're talking about multi million dollar homes. Yeah. Like this is like for to me is like mind blowing. Like I've never seen these homes, I've never seen stuff like this, right? Like I I had just fresh out of Mexico, fresh off the boat. and something I realized really quickly or noticed really quickly is that there was no one there was no a Jimenez on that street. There was no a Hernandez or a Gutierrez, there was no one Hispanic family in that whole neighborhood or any of those neighborhoods, really. And I started asking myself why. Like I go to school, all these Spanish speaking students lived out there and then all the white people and all the Asians live over here. Like wh why is that? And I started wondering, asking those questions and just throughout the years, like and and the people that surrounded me, like I started to to really it was more like an a chip on my shoulder and mad I'm I'm go I'm gonna be the the family, I'm gonna be the Hispanic family that lives in that street. I'm gonna have a million dollar home. And ever since then like I I I think just going back to your question, Jeremy, I I think the people that you surround yourself with is huge. Yeah. In in in having a a mindset shift. Yeah. And as soon as you start stacking the small wins, your mind starts expanding. I was sharing this the other day where a friend asked me like when did your mind shift in terms of like how you view money and I was looking at my journal and sorry guys if I'm going on tangents here, but looking at my j at my journal like from almost ten years ago, and like I would pray for like a hundred thousand dollars a year, right? And back then, like that's insane money, like that's stuff that you can only dream of. Yeah. I started my first my first business out of college and COVID hits, shuts it down. I had I had made maybe 30 grand that month in in in in revenue for my business, which again was crazy stuff for me back then. Kobe shuts it down, I refund all of it, and then I get into real estate. I was piv pivoting and and forced to get into real estate. Took me nine months to find a good deal or to find a deal. Took me nine months of call calling, twelve hours a day, nine a.m. to nine p.m. just call calling, hitting the phones and nothing. Until January 2021, I do my first deal, and then from there, We went on to do hundreds of deals. so I saw money really quick. And going back to my friend's question of when when did it shift for me? When you start when when you start seeing those wins and when you start seeing what other people are doing around you, like it kind of like spans your mind and and you you kinda start getting a little bit you start getting confident in yourself towards like towards your your mind starts to to to believe because you've done it. Like you can you guys can probably articulate it better than me, but you know like what I'm trying to say, like what would how would you guys articulate that? 'Cause I think that's for anybody listening, that's probably one of the biggest things. maybe don't focus on the biggest goal, but focus on small wins and then surrounding yourself with those people that are gonna push you to do those bigger wins. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. I just you're stacking evidence, bro. that that it works and that you can do it. And you talked, you know, on a previous show just about how like we need these small wins. I think we were talking about maybe physically, like physical fitness or something then, but it's just like small wins, right? So you're talking about stacking evidence. The other thing that I don't want to miss here, and this resonates deeply with me, just considering my upbringing, it's like You can come here and you can see opportunity. Or you can see s scarcity, right? And so for you, it wasn't like, there's no Hernandez on the street. We must not be allowed to live over here. This is not for me. That's for them. Or you can be like, dude, how speaker-2: Why not? Why not? speaker-1: we can do it, right? And so I remember somebody, because we know I grew up working in a grocery store. My parents owned a grocery store. And this guy was like, a friend of mine, actually a friend of a friend, he's like, Dude, why isn't all the Indians and Arabs they run the grocery stores? Right. And I go, it's because it's freaking hard work. And everybody else that's grown up here, right? I don't want to say everybody else. A lot of people that that grew up in the states, they're like, that's too much work. I don't want to do that. Right. Whereas my parents came like, makes really good money. Nobody wants to do it, we'll do it. Right. And so they saw opportunity where others saw, you know, maybe too much work or too much effort or whatever. And so That that's the thing that I want to underscore with you is that you came in, you're like, dude, we can be here. I can be on the street. Yeah. This can be for me too. How do we get there? And sometimes it takes a chip on your shoulder to get you started. And then after that you realize it's actually that's not what it's about. Right? We don't need to posture. I just want something more for my family. It has nothing to do with anybody else. But I think this really, really important point to make. It's like seeing the opportunity and not seeing it as these are the cards I was dealt and it's not for me. I don't know what you think. speaker-0: Couple things. something I think a lot of people don't understand is like when you when you're a worker compared to like when you're a owner, there's a different responsibility that comes on your shoulder. So the the sooner you get into ownership, the sooner you're gonna understand the weight of what it takes and that's good. Like and some people shy away from that. And they think they get this like entitlement kind of like they they think they know what it takes, but like owning something It takes a whole different attitude, whole different mindset. And and for me, like growing up, I come from a single mom who who's comes from a Danish bank background. So women are meant to be be just in the kitchen. They don't touch the money. So when my dad died, it was all on her shoulders. And so she started off with survival, you know, and just trying to make it. And and she had two kids that she had to get scrappy for. And so she took odd jobs that then turned her into an entrepreneur. But I still saw her not go as far as she could because of the responsibility of us. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: but yet she still later on in life went back to school, got her degree and showed us that. And and then it it really prompted a lot in us. But on one side of my my family, they like my grandfather on my mom's side came over from Denmark and like made himself like who he is and He was a tool and die guy and built a company with that and and did did well with that. and but they got comfortable in where they were. And then on the other side of my family, it it was more like my uncle on my dad's side, he became like a father figure in my life. And and he's been that ever since. Every time I go stay with them and go get dinner with them and talk to them, I'm always realizing there's a piece of me that's thinking too small. Mm-hmm. Because they play at a big level. And when they play at a big level, that really helped me to ask bigger questions and ask the the realization first that I have permission to think bigger. And I was and it's okay that I wasn't earlier, but how do I think bigger? How do I put myself in those predicaments to learn? And and one piece that really stood out for me that you're talking about is sales is a numbers game. And once you can get to that and you can figure out your math. math of that and you can figure out the what it takes. That's the beauty of business is like there's a sales process but it's also numbers game. So if you need to make twelve hours worth of calls like speaker-2: It was a grind, there there was no option to quit. speaker-0: No, but you got better. And that time that would took for twelve probably shrank a little bit. But you same thing with basketball is like you understood the same thing with Stephen Curry. he understands every day. Every day. That's his job. And I think it's so fascinating with professionals, and like athletes, they will spend what is it, six hours a day, every day on their craft for that one hour a week that they play during the game professionally. in a business setting, we do the opposite. We spend eight hours a day working on the business and then how much time do we put towards our craft? speaker-2: No. speaker-0: And sometimes we gotta understand what if we actually take more time towards our craft and then we'll actually show up more. And what if we delegate more and bring people a part of our team and empower them and educate them and unify our our force and that can even make us more impactful. And I think that's the other thing is how do we build a business that allows others to be a part of it? Mm-hmm. I think that's a unique thing. speaker-1: When you're talking about sharpening the axe. Yeah. Right. And I don't know about you, I'm sure you hear this all the time. I hear it all the time. You hear it all the time. I don't have time for that. Yeah. It's like of course you don't, 'cause you don't make time for it. Yeah. You don't have time 'cause you don't make time. Yeah. Right? And so it's like the guy who's trying to chop the tree down and he can't chop it down and it's taking twelve hours. It's like, How about you just stop for a second? Sharpen the friggin' axe, right? You can cut it down in a tenth of the time. I don't have time to do that. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And then they get in this vicious cycle where it's like, Yeah, you're never gonna have the time. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I'm not gonna have the time till you make the time. speaker-2: And then forty years go by and yeah. They still had their job. They don't have retirement. Yeah. speaker-1: So it's so Carlos talked to us about that a little bit, man. You've got a burden, I don't know another word to put it, a burden for your people group and how they show up here. Talk to us a little bit about that. and that axe to grind. We'll use the word axe again. And what like what are you trying to do with that and w and why? speaker-2: The quick answer is my goal is to provide a thousand jobs, provide a thousand Latino families with home ownership and create a thousand business owners that can make a million dollars. And if that could be done in the Latino community at over the next ten years, I think thou th I I'll be happy and I think God will be proud. Yeah. but I think it just comes from my heart for for seeing my people like just throughout the years, ever since growing up and then the the generations behind. Like we we it's almost like if you're Latino, especially in the US and you migrate here, like by default you're gonna be in construction or landscaping or working at a kitchen. Like by default. Yeah. And and people move here And thus those are the jobs that they get and they stay there for ten, twenty, thirty years. there's no retirement, there's no investments, there's no equity, there's no ownership. And then you see people like you drive drive to Santa Ana and go to a grocery store, go to this any street, like the street vendors, people behind the cashiers, like there you a hundred percent are gonna see a sixty year old, seventy year old, eighty year old. You think they wanna be there for fun or 'cause they enjoy it? Yeah. Maybe a couple of them just to try to stay busy and get their bodies still moving, but most of them is out of necessity. And I took an over to my took a lift to the airport recently and the driver was sharing with me he he was he's Mexican. He was sharing with me that he's been thinking about a food truck for he's been thinking about opening his own food truck and I asked him, Lo, how long have you had this idea for? He said, Well the last couple of years and I'm like Well, it's going to it's going to continue to be an idea if you don't execute on it. What's stopping you? And he shared how his family members and relatives, they're they're naysayers. Yeah. And they say that they're gonna they they're t they tell him that he's gonna lose money, that it's too complicated, that he's gotta deal with the city, that business ownership is not for the family or for the for us. And and I think that's where the problem that's where what's the word? That's where the problem lies. Like because I think it's a mix of a couple of things. mindset, education, belief. If I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on on on belief, but if if if you don't believe then you're already defeated. Like you're you're done. Like well but for for my culture is it's almost like we don't believe that we can be millionaires. We don't believe that we can be wealthy. We don't believe that we could be honors. and then that's where the the lack of education also comes in because a lot of people don't know that you don't have to be a citizen to start your own business here. You can You can go and create an LLC or a corporation without a citizenship. A lot of people don't know that. you can invest in the stock market, you know, without having to be have be a citizen. You can do you can you can own your own your own company, you can own property without all of that. And I'm not condoning any or making this about migration or or legal or illegal, but I think just by Really taking advantage of the opportunity that this country gives us, a lot of people, especially minorities, can do just as much as anyone else. Yeah. Maybe a white person in Orange County that grew up with a little bit of money has an advantage. Sure. To me, I have more that more of the advantage. To me, minorities have more of the advantage 'cause we're more we're hungrier. Yeah. we have way more people to look out for. We have way more on the table. Like I'm putting all my chips in. Like speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, I love that. It's good, man. I have a speaker-0: mentor who he he's from India from the slums. And he said, Jeremy, you don't know what hunger is. And he said, I you know, he's been here for over forty years now and and he's like, I can still smell what hunger is. I still smell the the slum. And he's like, That's my drive. And my drive is to help others get out of that. And like that that just was such a good reminder is like how strong is your hunger. But what I love too is the other piece is what we're called to at least. Mm-hmm. Us that have been working is to be available for others to ask the deeper questions to help them connect the dots so they can further themselves. And and I think that's a big piece of our our drive in life is just investing in others. And how do you invest like These guys that have come in my life is I first came into their life and then they were able to ask good questions. Yep. And ask deeper questions and help me flush out my vision. But then some of the people that I've found that would have been mentors, when I saw vision, like sometimes they said, I don't think that's right. But you gotta have conviction. If you really want to build something, you gotta go do it. Part of my program, they said it'll never make it online. And I was like, I think it will. And I think that's the way I have to go. I played the the in person in a in a box. And I was like, I don't think that's where it's supposed to be anymore. I think this needs to be online. And then and but I had to step past their I had to first say, I'll own this. I'll own my failure, but my failure is there to help teach me. Yep. And I feel I have to learn this. And that was a big piece of like, are we willing to fail to learn? Are we willing to risk what we have to advance ourselves? And I think that's what it really comes down to is like what we have, are we willing to risk it so we can actually have the future we desire? I don't know about you guys. speaker-1: Yeah. I I think that just to interject for a second, I think that Pivotal piece of this in the story with the Lyft Driver is like who are you surrounding yourself with? Yeah. bro, there better be people around you that are doing bigger things like you're talking about, greater things. They believe in you. They've got skills that you don't have. that's part of your toolkit. And some people walking around toolbox friggin' empty. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: nothing in there. I used to always joke my dad's toolbox had a butter knife and a screwdriver. he didn't know how to use tools at all. some of us are like that. We're walking around with nothing. And so yeah, you're gonna be in this echo chamber of naysayers. Bro, if everybody thinks you can't do it, yeah, speaker-2: That's what I taught him. speaker-1: you're not doing it. You know, is that old Henry Ford quote? It's probably not even him, but he's like, if whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right. And then you're surrounded in an echo chamber like you think you can't, and then everybody around you thinks you can't, you're not doing it, bro. Yeah. You're not gonna have so like for him to spend time with people around him, like, bro, okay, it is gonna be hard. City does suck to work with. You should do it anyways, right? And then the thing you're talking about is like If y the people that you trust are telling you you can't, it's a great exercise. how much do you believe in it? speaker-2: Yeah. Yeah, I was talking to my friend recently. I was in Vegas and he's opening up his own gym and his own soccer facility and he's Hispanic as well. And he he's like, Bro, like I love talking to you. Like we can talk about business all day. And he's like, Dude, like every family function like like super fun, right? Like I love my people and the Mexicans, we we know how to party, but he's like, I I can't talk real estate, I can talk money, like it's it's weird to them. Like it's it boards them, they're not interested, like and And I love you stuck like being able to have that this relationship with you. And and I shared with him about the two days prior. I was in a mastermind with a bunch of real estate investors, business owners, people that have done really well in Dallas. And I was telling him how like we we we we brought a private chef into the Airbnb and and we basically used mastermind the whole day. And and we're talking like or goals for the co for Q four and and how we've been doing with the goals that we said we were gonna do back in January. You talk money like it's nothing. and and it's normal. and if you tell me you wanna make a t ten million dollars this year, then then you're gonna be like, Okay, well what's the game plan? Like w have you thought about this or that? There's no like in other groups or other circles, like there's gonna be like, you're crazy. There's no way. Like you're gonna lose money, like in negativity, like after negativity, like that's why it's so important, like what you said, Peter, of like there's a difference between the circle that is gonna like shed on you and and be a naysayer in the circle that's gonna actually get you to that. Yeah. in in and it's huge. instrumental. speaker-1: It's huge. The one thing though that I I definitely want to underscore is that I think about my parents. My dad came here, didn't speak the language, still barely speaks the language. And he's here and he's he's doing he's working three jobs, he buys a business, he's running it, he's self employed, he's not an entrepreneur, he's self employed, big difference, right? To them, it was a quantum leap forward, right? And so it's easy for me to look back and be like, yeah, bro, we thought small, we should have gone different location and all that. That's good. But for them, quantum leap. Yeah. Right. And so, and that's all he wanted. He's like, Hey, I want to do quite a bit better than what I could have done. And then you're gonna have that's gonna be your floor, you know? And so I I do think there's like there's an aspect of their perspective and their baseline was just so far down there, you know? Yeah. And so they did what they could. Yep. And at the same time it's like, all right, we're gonna stand on their shoulders and we're gonna do even greater. Yeah. But even in their s in their situation, they had nobody speaking life into them. They had nobody they were leaning on. They had nobody coaching them in business. They just they did what they could with the information they had in their head and the ideas they had, which were great. They could have done quite a bit better. speaker-2: Takes one person and one decision. Yeah. I think for anybody out there listening, that could be you. You making the decision to change your family tree and to change the generations after the after the generation after generation could be on one decision. speaker-0: Yeah. And that's it. I mean, that's that's the biggest part, right? There's a great book if if anybody hasn't read this yet. It's called The Dream Giver. Mm-hmm. And he he talks the first half of the book is a parable about a individual that was given a dream that's from the city of Ordinaries and his journey leaving that town and pursuing his dream. Highly recommend it. It was life changing to me when it was given to me. speaker-1: Ordinaries. speaker-0: Yeah. That's good. And we're called to go beyond that. And that that is us at the table. we were all given just bigger vision and and I think as we have, like, that's what's setting us apart. and I I don't take that lightly. I take it as a responsibility to like be open to others, to give it to others and to empower others. You know, I think my life mantra is to release life into others. And and so how do I position myself to continue to do that? And I think what's beautiful is, you know. We're not done, but it's but it's we're we're going places and I think that's so important. And one thing that you said, somebody somebody that I knew lost a million dollars and he was frustrated by it and there's another guy that made more like multiple millions and lost multiple millions and and he's like, Hey, you you've already learned how to make a million dollars. Second time around's gonna be way easier. don't get hung up on this. Like go Build again. And I think that's the we don't realize when we build, we create we obtain roadmaps of how to build. And and then for our parents, like we're we're meant to launch from our parents' shoulders. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: And they want us to. The at points they might hold us back, but we're meant to go beyond. speaker-1: Okay. So philosophically we've covered, right, some of the stuff with I think I I always mention I refer to as an immigrant mentality. we're talking about Latinos specifically here. but what are some practicals, man? what what's your advice to your people, as you said, that can help them step out of some of this mindset? Yeah. speaker-2: First of all, you you have to stop living in beyond your means. Everyone like family, family members, relatives, friends, like anyone in in or everybody in the neighborhood has a twenty twenty six car, brand brand new car. Everybody in the neighborhood has a brand new car and then they get the new one next year and then they get another new one next year with five five hundred to thousand dollar car payments when they're making two, three grand a month. Like, how does that even make sense? And they're trying to impress their neighbor, they're trying to have the best rims, the best uplift uplift the truck. And then they also dump in fifty K in a quinceañera. I love those parties. I I I love our culture and I love our traditions. But how are you going about it? Yeah. I had this video that went viral because I was crapping on the quinceaneras everybody's like, it's our tradition. don't take that away from our or from our culture. And and and I'm like, I'm not taking it away. You're just putting yourself in more in more debt. And what are you teaching your daughter? That you're willing to go into debt that you can't afford just to throw a party. no no, go throw the party, yeah, but do it under under a budget. Live beyond your means. educate yourself. Read a book on on on the stock market. Like I I you you ask any you ask any person out there in the Latino community, they're most likely not gonna know what an ETF is or an index fund, yeah, or an S of the S P five hundred. Like those are simple things, like the going back to the Lyft Driver story, He said that he's got some cash saved up for the food truck. And I asked him, what do you have? And he's like, I have a I have some with Walsh Fago and Bank of America. You know how much you're earning there? 0.001%. That's insanity to me. Yeah. there's a there's a high yield savings account that you can get, you can get four percent, or you can put stuff into the index fund and it will get you eight to ten percent. Those are two simple things that will take probably five minutes if you YouTube how to invest in the stock market through Fidelity, Vanguard, Charles Schwab, Capital One, any of those. Like, Let's l I'm gonna say in Spanish real quick too. Do it. those forms muy simples and you puzzle to ahorros. Jeremy's like, I don't know how you said, but speaker-0: Under it. speaker-2: super simple things that like like that's another thing that I that I learned too when I moved here from from Mexico right away. Like I'm my friends had were were investing or their parents had them set up with college funds, like All of these things are like we have no idea of of nobody does. So it's it's it's it's we're starting like s super un unlevel. Yeah. yeah, I mean like credit card debt that's like there's a crazy crazy statistic that like eighty percent of of the of over of of the population and f for th for three minorities or two minorities, for African Americans and Hispanics like are like in credit card debt. and they don't have thousand dollars in their in in savings. And and again, it just goes back to like thinking that you can afford it just because it's in your credit balance. Like you can you can't afford it. speaker-1: No. Yeah. And the thing is too, man, like I I think what's really important is for people to understand the downstream ramifications of a decision, right? And so if you told somebody in your culture where you're like, hey, you can go into debt for the quincinera, did I say that right? Yeah. Or you put that money in that's that's at fifteen, right? it's speaker-2: What yeah. speaker-1: okay. Can you imagine if they took if it was what did you say they spent twenty five grand? speaker-2: Yeah, twenty, fifty, forty K, fifty K. It's like speaker-1: It's like a wedding. That's insane to me. Yeah. No, I'm not even I'm not even gonna say my kids aren't getting that money for a wedding. Right? I'd say, hey, I'll put it on a down payment for a house. If you want it for a wedding, pay for it yourself. All right, so you heard it here first. So actually they heard it already, dude. You said you take that money, 25 grand, spend two grand. You can have a great party for 2,000 bucks. 23,000 bucks at 15. You know how much that money will be at 30 years old? Right? And if you explain that to somebody, we're like, hey bro. You can have a party you're gonna forget about next year, or you put it in it in an index fund, right? And it's gonna double every what's it, seven and a half years? What's a double at seven or every seven and a half years or something like that, right? Yeah. So, dude, at 30, it is doubled twice. 25 grand, check your math. I'm not sure if this is right. 25 turns into a hundred by the time they're 30 years old. Yep. Or you're gonna have a party you forgot about. Come on, bro. That's insane to me. And so if you start just explaining a little bit of that math, it's like, come on, man, party, down payment on a house, I don't know, bro, an easy decision to me. I speaker-0: I think what's important for people to understand too, now that we have SI, you know, AI, super intelligence now, what we have at our fingertips is something that we can ask these questions and get very quick like information back. And and we can we can just ask it some of these things. Hey, I need you to be my financial advisor for a second. Teach me as if I was a five year old. Yeah. Like How what what could be some of these ways that I can make this money? I'm I'm about to spend fifteen thousand dollars on this party. Yeah. What if I spend two? What can I do with the other amount? what can I unlock from my children? it's those simple things that we just don't know we have access to right now that are incredibly beneficial. Yeah. speaker-2: And you know what the best thing is that? Juan GPT speaks Spanish too. Yeah. speaker-1: Ha ha ha ha. speaker-2: He does. speaker-1: I love that. No excuses. No excuses. Yeah, use a free version. I mean it's come on, bro. speaker-0: Peter, I I have a question for you, man. why is suffering good? speaker-1: My suffering good. there's so much to be learned in the suffering, right? I don't know that we learn much when things are easy, quite frankly. Yeah. Like when we're comfortable, things are easy. I don't know about you guys. I'm not learning a whole lot. it's in the hard times where I'm digging in. It's in the hard times where I'm doing reading. It's in the hard times when I'm praying the hardest, right? which is not, I mean, it shouldn't be like that, but it, but it is. And so I just think about A story that I've shared on a a gajillion podcast, but when our oldest had a stroke at 14, that was like the worst thing we'd ever gone through ever. But then I look back and I track back and I'm like, man, the amount of growth that happened in ourselves, in our family, in our community because of that moment, pretty freaking powerful, like amazing. I wouldn't want to go through that again. I'm not advocating for it, but it's in the suffering where we grow. And if we learn that and we embrace it, then we're like when things are hard, we're we can ask the question, what's God getting my attention on here? Right? Why waste it? If it's gonna be hard, you might as well learn something, right? And so I think digging in on that, understanding like God's trying to get your attention on something, life's getting your attention on something, and then understanding that that's where you put the muscle on, speaker-2: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: then you can learn to embrace it. You don't need to enjoy it, right? I don't know what is that? Is that masochistic? What's that? I don't know what know what the phrase is, but yeah. But sadist. Yes. but more so just like understanding that that's where you put the muscle on. And so I had a client and we were joking about, it's like the guy that goes to the gym and all he does is like upper body. And he's got like these freaking cartoon legs. I'm probably one of those guys. And you're like, bro, you need to do leg you need a leg day, man. And you might not enjoy leg day ever, but you enjoy the byproduct of leg day, which is like you don't look like a cartoon character anymore. And so all of us have some version of leg day that feels like suffering, but there's a beautiful byproduct of that. Right. And it's growing in the areas that you need to grow in. Yeah. And so the suffering can be a it can be a beautiful thing if you understand that, like, bro, this is hard and it's sweaty and I'm grinded and I don't like it and it hurts. And there's a there's a there's a beauty in it. I don't speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: know, what is it what's suffering to you, man? speaker-0: Well, when you first say about leg day, the the thing that's ironic to a lot of people is if you skip leg day, you're you're also skipping seven percent of your upper body growth. Really? Yeah. I didn't even know that. Yeah. Every time you lift your leg, seven percent of that is going to your upper body. speaker-1: Biggest muscle in your body. speaker-0: Yeah. And so it's like I that's one way that I always help people to kind of figure that out is like, hey, you want a strong upper body. Well, you're missing seven percent of your growth that can happen. And and so I thought that was always fascinating learning about that back in the day. you know, I'm always brought back to like different moments in my life when suffering came and and I experienced it and and what it produced afterwards is always profound to me. And and like one one one of those times I was stretching myself so like so much. And what I realized, I had this epiphany was I was tearing away the old person that held me back in life, that held me in a place that I never wanted to be. And I was caught in this place of saying, This just like this hurts. And like, but then I realized I was like, this old person, this old mindset, this whole attitude, this old just everything I carried was being ripped off of me. And I was like, to keep going because I do not want that person to be a part of me. No longer has the right to be in my in in in in my person. And I was like, thank you. Thank you that I get to rip this person off of me. And if we take it back to fitness, it's like at first it's the only way that you're gonna get stronger is if you put yourself under pressure, under discomfort. And and like as we as we put ourselves under that, what happens? Muscles get stronger. They're able to do more. You're able to do things you never thought possible. All right. At first you're like, I can't jump on top of the table. You're you're ridiculous. Then you start to put weight on your muscles, you start doing squats, you start doing things that are like pushing you to your limits, and then you come back and you can jump on the table with ease. And now it's just like, yeah, you can't jump on the table. What are you thinking? I I think there's something about suffering that gives you permission for everything you've dreamt of. But are you daring to press into it? And I think that's the thing that we've we're we're in our culture today that we're missing is everything around us is asking us to be entertained. It's asking us to to put our money towards the newest thing rather than actually put our money towards and our time and our energy and everything towards what is is amazing for us. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: And speaker-2: 'Cause they wanna keep you weak and distracted. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Say more. speaker-2: I think there's powerful people out there that benefit from men being weak. From men not stepping up. for men no answering to their calling. speaker-0: Yeah. Let me let me break in in on that piece because I think that's really important about men. at least this is what I've identified for myself is when I've been in those moments that I've shied away, what I've found is it's vulnerable. And a lot of times vulnerability is the key to your future. And so I wasn't understanding this is good for me to experience because this is new. I never had a father telling me like this is good for you to feel. press into this more. There's more waiting for you if you keep going. And I think that's the piece that sometimes we're missing is like when we feel the discomfort, when we feel the suffering, when we feel these things that are trying to distract us, you're you're you're right on the brink of a future that's been waiting for you. speaker-2: Facts. speaker-1: Yeah, it's right on the other side of that. It is. Yeah, and the thing is is you create a habit of just being like, I'm gonna press into that and you're like, I'm gonna go a little bit more. I my buddy calls it a stronger What's that? You get stronger but you also speaker-2: You stronger. You get stronger. They're gonna get the thing that you're avoiding is either gonna get easier, you get stronger or you or you or you quit. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: So which one you choosing? speaker-1: Right. Yeah. And my buddy calls it exposure therapy. It's like I was I used to call it the you didn't die method. It's like you get to the brink. we work out on s on Saturday mornings. there's a frequently a moment where I'm gonna freaking die, right? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna puke or I'm gonna die. Or both. I'm gonna puke, then die. But then you get past it and you're like, I didn't die. I'm okay, it's fine. And then the next time you work out and you get to that feeling, you're like, I remember this feeling. I thought I was gonna die. I didn't die. And you push past it. And then now you're building muscle and you're like, all right, cool, man. Everything's great. Everything, almost everything that's good is on the other side of this sucky situation. I'm gonna push through. I don't like it, but I'm gonna push through because I know it's just little bit more. Or I think about like Jay Papasan, who wrote the one thing. I remember him talking to me about how like it's sixty six days to a new habit. I don't know if there's new science behind that. Maybe that's wrong now. And I was thinking about 66 days, it's a little bit more than two months. And so around the seven-week mark with clients, I'm like, this is when they're about to fall off. speaker-2: Mm. speaker-1: You're about to create a new habit, or you're gonna quit. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: This is when it's gonna get hard. It's right before you're gonna turn the corner, it's gonna be a new habit. Yeah. Week seven, week eight. Hey, dude, just heads up. You're gonna feel like you want to quit. Don't do it. Because you're just about to create a new habit. So let's get to the other side of that. Right? And so I think in that that it's just so important. But here's the thing: again. We surround ourselves with people that know how to suffer well. Right? how many times on Saturday mornings where I'm like, bro, I just wanna lay down on this concrete really cold. no, bro, get up. We got one more lap. I'm like, I don't wanna freaking do it. They're like, Get up, we're all doing another lap. We need other guys around us, other people around us to be like, No, no, no, dude, come on. I know you're about to don't quit. We're gonna be all right, let's go. speaker-0: Yep. Yeah. That consistency of having brotherhood or or just community of like minded people that are willing to do the work. it's my f favorite thing about going to classes or go like that are everyone's suffering and you're like I'm pushing myself to the limit right now. And you look over and you go, That dude, he's pushing himself to the limit too. a little bit more than I am. I I think I need to just show up, Yeah. And and I think that's so necessary though. If we don't have others showing that they're showing up, I think of course you're not gonna show up. If you have only people that are seeking entertainment, seeking to be comfort, of course you're gonna find comfort there too. speaker-1: This goes back to the what you were saying earlier, Carlos, about everybody got the new 2026 vehicle. Bro, think about the life you want to have, and then look at the people you're taking advice from. Are they living it? Right? My buddy, who is a lawyer at one of the largest privately held companies in the world, and they're trying to get him to stay on. And he's looking at this. So my buddy's got wife, kids. And all the guys that are telling him to stay on and keep doing this is a great career. He's like, bro, I'm like third wife, kids don't know you. He's like, I'm looking around, I'm like, and then another friend used to always say, consider the source, right? So he's like, bro, I don't want your life. I don't want your life. Your life sucks. Your life sucks. You're about to die from a heart attack. Like, no, I'm quitting. Right? And so we we need to be like looking around be like, all right, this is the life I want to live. Who do I know that's living this life? Right? you do that all the time. We're like, bro, I want to be in real estate and I wanna own this portfolio. Who's got the portfolio? None of these people got a portfolio. I'm not hanging out with you guys. That doesn't mean they're bad people. You're just not taking real estate advice from them. Right? And so I think that one, this is a lack of vision. So if if you're talking about your people group, it's like, wait a minute, dude, what's the vision? Like, is this the life you came here to live? it's not. What do you want it to look like? Cool. Who's living that life? nobody you hang out with. I think you need new friends. You need different friends. Or you need another friend group that you're taking financial advice from. That's my takeaway. speaker-2: You're literally leaving your home country with speaking without speaking language, without your your food, without your people, without your family. You're you're traveling thousands and thousands of miles away. Why don't you just freaking shoot for the moon? speaker-1: Yes. Yes. Knowing it's possible and then surrounding yourself with the people that have already lived that possibility. speaker-2: There are a couple DMs recently on how to find this this men. what would you guys say? there's somebody listening that wants to surround themselves with these people we're describing. How do they find them? speaker-0: Well, first I would always say your your greatest like mentors are ones that you have to consistently c like pursue. Yeah. Like they they're not open to everyone. They're not gonna follow up with you. No. No. speaker-2: They'll help on it. speaker-0: You have to be on it. And like you have to continue to show up. You gotta continue to ask. Like you can't just like say, tell me everything, like, hey, I was thinking about this. Like, what's your take on this? Like bring things to the table that you're curious about. So you can get advice about those things. I don't think a lot of people do that. I think if you're hungry and you keep pursuing those things, like that's that's when they're there. Like you have to bug them. You have to be consistently bugging them. You have to go out and find them. Like, hey, if you see somebody at a place that has a rad car that you love that like one day you want to own, hey, your car is amazing. Like, how did you get that? And then st start a conversation. If you connect. Bro, I'd really love to get your your number. And then you get his number and s and then you message him and you text him and then you make a pact with yourself. I'm gonna text him every week. Yeah. Hey, just was thinking about you again. speaker-2: that's so valuable, Jeremy, 'cause people or I was gonna say kid, but really, at at any age, mo a lot of people may be like, I I did reach out how many times? Once. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: Bro. speaker-0: my my uncle taught me this a while ago that I I want to share this with people is like his whole business is about referrals and like his his sales cycle is like three years with a client. So it takes a long time. But one of the things I was struggling with is like I was getting all these connections and everything like that, but my follow through sucked. And he's like, Hey, if you can't respond to somebody right away. and set up a meeting, that's okay. But you can't let twenty four hours go without contacting that person. So if you say to them, hey, my plate is full right now, but I'm gonna contact you in a month from now, perfect. That's enough for them. speaker-2: Yeah. And you better write it down and put in your calendar and tell ChatGPT to remind you and put it on your fridge. speaker-0: But if you do that, they know. And guess what happens? You say, I'm going to reach out to you in a month, and you actually reach out in a month, it shows your word. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: And if you don't, you go, I'll give to it later. I don't have everything put together right now, so I can't do it. This is my story. I need to reach out to them. I just don't have the information that I need for them right now. So I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it. And then it's like two weeks later, I lost my lead. speaker-2: Time time. speaker-0: You got to hit them quick and say, I will respond at this time. Thank you again. I can't wait to connect with you. And then you set that date. That was life changing to me with like my ability to build my Rolodex of my people that I connect with. And now I have a massive network. And my network expands all over the US and farther, right? Around the world. And especially like from some of the work I used to do. I I'm I'm worldwide in some sense. Right. But how do I sew into those relationships? That's the other thing. if another little hack is like, mate, make a calendar, have people's names on it, and then put it who who are some top people that you want to continue to build friendship with and relationship with and put it on the calendar where it's like every month, here's here's a list of sixty people I'm gonna reach out to thinking about you. How are you doing? And then if if text message is too much, send them a voice memo. Those are even better. Yep. Like if you if you're afraid to call. Don't call Send them voice memo. That's that carries the same weight, same power. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: I re yeah, I recently time blocked. I don't know if you got that from how to win friends and influence people, but I time blocked my calendar. I put appreciation hour where I'm just texting ten people. Like if you go through your context, there's guarantee ten people that have done stuff for you or have been there for you and you haven't talked to in years. Yeah. Hey, think about you, like you said, think about you, appreciate your man. Yeah. Hope you're doing well. Goes a long way. speaker-1: It does. man, for me, I think that, when you asked that question, Carlos, I thought about I I had lunch with a guy, didn't know him at all. He's introduced to me from another dude. Came down from Costa Mesa actually and this a few years ago and we have a great lunch and he's like in tears. He's like, dude, can we meet again? Like there's just no there are no like Christian business leaders around and it's just really hard to find and all this stuff. I started laughing. He's like, what are you laughing about? I bro, we're freaking everywhere. Like you, your eyes are just not open. Right. And so, if there's a people group or or a a type of mentor that you're looking for, they're they're everywhere. And I'll tell you right now, I don't think I know I can even think of a single person right now that's not true about. People love to help people. They love to take the wisdom and the knowledge they've gained and help somebody else. I can't think of a single person in my sphere, probably maybe because I don't associate with them that doesn't want to help somebody. But you have to actually be eager. You actually you have to actually want to follow through and learn. And so it made me think about when I used to podcast from 2015 to 2017, which I thought was late. It's actually looking back, it was early. And people would be like, bro, I want to start a podcast. Can I grab lunch with you? And then I learned very quickly people like to talk about starting things. They don't want to actually do things. So I had a canned email. I say, bro, you want to start a podcast? That's cool. I'm going to send you a bunch of resources. And as soon as you get through it, let's freaking grab lunch, man. I want to jam with you. It would be like 10 hours of YouTube videos is the same thing that I did when I wanted to learn. Right. I think it was Pat Flynn from Smart Passive Income from 100 years ago. Like all these different things that I consumed, stuff that I bought, which was like maybe a couple hundred bucks a gear, and then I got started. So I'd send that to them. How many people followed up? speaker-0: Very few. speaker-1: Zero. Nobody. Because they won't talk about doing the thing. Yep. Yeah. If any of those people followed through, I would have happily grabbed lunch with them and just open the kimono and be like, this is exactly what I do. This is exactly how it works. Right. And so you gotta look for them. There people are everywhere they want to help. You gotta actually pursue them like you guys are talking about. Follow through. One last story. I remember this real estate investor that I talked to. He was talking about a lady who had almost no money to invest, but she really wanna invest in real estate. And he goes, I gave her three books to read. Like I said, read these three books and then I'll meet with you. He goes, She called me the next day. She's like, when can we set up an appointment? He goes, Yeah, but I give you I give you I give you three books. She goes, Yeah, I read them all. I stayed up all night. He's like, Holy crap, this chick is hungry, right? Met with her, helped her put together her first deal. She got a house under contract in 30 days, and she became like his prodigy. Yeah. Because she seeked him out. Super rare. speaker-2: Right. speaker-1: But dude, it's n it's not that hard. You gotta actually want it. You gotta really, really want it. speaker-0: Yep. Yeah. I have a question for you guys. I don't know you know, this is just something for people to understand. when you start to take on leadership, it gets lonely towards the top if you're not intentional. What do you think it like what provokes people to get to the top and be lonely? Why is why is the why is loneliness something that a lot of leaders deal with when they get up there? speaker-1: Carlos, you something? speaker-2: Yeah. I can re I can totally relate to this 'cause my first five years in business, I I've been in business I I've been in business for about ten years now and going on t on ten years twenty twenty seven. The first five years was the loneliest I ever was. And at least for me, I think was a a misalignment in what I preached to be important. I I said back then, yeah. I would probably say that cult became first and family and but none of my actions reflected that. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: I was waking up at four AM, going to the gym, coming back and working from seven AM till nine PM. Sometimes till midnight. I was going on four hours of sleep and I was working eighteen hours a day, every single day, for about three, four years straight. Every single day. Had no friends, was barely going to church, relations relationships were hurting. wasn't being present with my girlfriend at the time. And I think was just the the way in which I approach my success and and yeah like I've I was extremely hungry and I wanted to make it so bad but I think just the the way in which I prioritize things, it's almost like money became an idol. Yeah. so now like the second half of those ten years like or or or for the last five and then my next ten are going to be detached from results. I'm still s I'm still super hungry and I'm still aiming for the moon, but if it happens, I'm cool. I'm not attached. I could lose everything and I think I'm pretty confident I'll be all right. I'll be co I'll be I'll be okay. Prioritize family, prioritize my faith. And my actions reflect it. I don't ju I I don't just say it. It's time blocked and I do it. And this year I've traveled a ton and some weeks I was barely working. ten, fifteen hours. And it didn't have any impact into my business because I built my businesses to do that, but and that's another conversation. But I think just a a I'm I'm looking for the word. just how do how you how do you prioritize things? Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. It's good. Bro, I think leadership is lonely because especially with technology, social media, and everything, it's exacerbated this problem. We think we're the only ones screwing it up. And when you think you're the only one screwing up, you're not gonna share the real stuff. You're like, bro, I'm having trouble with marketing right now, dude. Or I'm having issues with revenue or leadership or my marriage is a mess. Like all these things. We're not gonna share it. How could you? You're only on screwing up. Every else doing great. Everybody's killing it, grinding. Awesome. up and to the right. And so when you do that, you isolate. And when you isolate, it's lonely. But then and then people don't even get to know who you really are. But when you're sharing the real stuff, and then you're like, Jeremy's, dude, he doesn't have it buttoned up either. And Carlos is, man, he's kind of a mess. Like we're all, we're all a mess together. We've all got our and then we're like, bro, you need help with that? I got a guy. And then all of a sudden you got a team. bro. I gotta think for you and you're looking at me, you're like, Hey man, gotta get in the gym, bro. Like and then we start lifting each other up and then you're like, man, we're all in this together and it's still hard. Yeah. But we're grinding together and then and then things are beautiful, right? But I think that's that's extremely rare. Yeah. I don't know what speaker-0: Yeah speaker-1: you think. speaker-0: well I just want to first say I think we all have first the story of we've gotten lonely in leadership because we've we've kind of done it wrong. Yeah. And I think I just want to first say like confess to the world like I got to that place too. Yeah. You know, and I was hiding, you know, I was I was defining my success by like showing an image. versus I needed help. And and I think when I started getting help, I started realizing, man, I'm not alone. Yeah. Like I I just listening to somebody else dealing with their stuff, like I got a strategy. And I was like, man, but that strategy only came when I first confessed that I I'm struggling in this in this piece of my business. And it's embarrassing, but this is this is my problem. And they're like, You don't need to be embarrassed, I'm struggling with that too. But here's something I learned. That that that was a piece that's missing. Yeah. And thank you. I needed that. And I like or man, finances were part of it, you know, and like I don't think I have the finances for to make this piece happen. Well, have you tried this angle first? It's like, thank you. I needed that. But as first me being v vulnerable with my mistakes and what I'm dealing with, what I'm struggling with, opened the doors for me to actually advance. Yeah. And be known. Yeah. And, you know, this is s separate in leadership, but I think it connects to leadership is I needed to work through grief so then I can actually receive the love that was around me. So it was it was me unwilling to look at certain parts of my heart that were actually holding me back from the community that was surrounding me. And that was something that was interesting that happened is I didn't know how much I was keeping people at arm length away. And I had all these people that loved me, but I wasn't able to receive that love. And once I started to work on the grief of what I ha what I went through as a child, that actually opened me up to the realization, man, people are for me, people are with me. and how do I be more open to them? Yeah. And raw in the moment. And and that's the thing. Like sometimes we might be at a table all of us and we're sharing life and I might be kind of like needing some encouragement. And it's like, guys, I look around the table right now and I just see you all successful and and I'm not. And like and they're they can remind me, Jeremy, no, you you're at the table and and you're welcomed here. And I think sometimes we need to realize that. It's like, yeah, you're right. We're all in it in this. Sometimes one might be winning one day. One might be messing up another day. One might be screwing something up on another day. But we're at the table and we're committed to the table. Yeah. And I think that's the piece that is easy to dismiss is we can get so focused on, well, I I'll join this group, I'll be a part of this community once I get these things in in in order. And speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: it's like, I can do that tomorrow. This is more pressing. And it's like, really? You're just isolating yourself more. Yeah. You're you're leaving yourself out of out of an opportunity to increase. your your understanding. And I I see if you're in a place of loneliness and leadership, I think this goes back to realization that you're you're at a ceiling in your leadership. Yeah. And you need to go surround yourself by other leaders that are actually doing things. And as you do, your your world will expand. Yeah. Because your identity is is being compromised. speaker-1: Good. I love that. Any last words? speaker-2: I wanted to say that there there is a component of of of of the amount of sacrifice you might have to put in for a season in order to be successful and and and get to the top. And I think the line of like the top is lonely is because ninety nine percent of people are not willing to do what it takes to get to that top. And what's the other saying? Like the the path to success is narrow. 'cause most most people are going to the ride. the crowd is going to the ride and it's a couple of people over here. Those are the ones that make it. So there is a component and there's seasons too. There might be you might be in a season where you literally have to figure it out. You have to figure something out or your family's not gonna eat. Yeah. you might not wanna be golfing or you might not wanna be hanging out with your boys. Yeah. You might have to lock in in your room and ten hours, twelve hours straight and figure out where the next hundred dollars are gonna come out from. but I think that's what it's important to identify that the d the different seasons. I think we're all here blessed to be able to go with the boys and hang out for a while without having to sacrifice a paycheck. But we all put in the hours. We all put in the ten thousand hours. We we paid our dues and I think for people Especially if they're young or or or you you want to start a business or you're early on in your in your business, y you might have to go through that. Might be twelve months, maybe two years, maybe five years. And it just goes back to what you want, speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: You can't build a hundred million dollar company on twenty hours a week of work. speaker-1: Yeah. That's good, man. Carlos, thanks for being here, bro. Where speaker-2: Thank you guys. speaker-1: can people find you? speaker-2: Carlos Closes on Instagram, TikTok, and Amigo Make a Million on on YouTube. and I have my site that I recently just launched, Carlos Jimenez Official dot com. speaker-1: I love it, man. Yeah. It's good. Shows a lot of thigh, a lot of shirtless pictures. So the ladies out there. speaker-2: There's a Spanish translator version too. In español, Carlos Jiménez Oficial.com speaker-1: I love it. I love it. Dude, guys, it's been fun. speaker-0: Love. And speaker-2: Thank you guys. speaker-0: last words. Yeah. I would say, if you find yourself lonely, understand you're opening yourself up to a whole new people group. And as you go and you and you are lonely, start to look for those that are higher than you and start to reach out to them. You don't have to stay lonely. if you're gonna give your time, be intentional with your time. find those people that you want to invest in and be strategic with that. And as you do, you're gonna find people that are running at a level that is freeing to you and and life giving to you. But part of our growth is just to like be available. So I just I just encourage be available, be intentional and and get after life. You're worth it. everything you're going after is worth it. Your dreams are worth it. So be uncomfortable And enjoy being uncomfortable because that's what's producing the life that you desire. How about for you, P Yeah. speaker-1: Good. Yeah. Embrace the suffering, man. Yeah. what's hard? What's God getting your attention on? what does it mean? Where do you need to put the muscle on? Is this leg day? I don't know. Yeah. really pay attention to that. Don't waste it.