speaker-0: Hello and welcome back to UI Chat, the podcast where we discuss everything ubiquity and networking. I'm your host Alex and as always I'm joined by Evan McCann. How are doing Evan?

speaker-1: Good. I have to say my gateway is feeling very non-beastly right now. But ⁓ there is some ⁓ new stuff to talk about, plenty of hardware. I think we complained either last month or the month before that was a little bit slow and they made up for some lost time here.

speaker-0: They definitely have. It's been a very, very busy month. New software, well, not so much new software as we'll get to a little bit later, but there's been a lot of hardware news and bits and pieces. So yeah, all exciting times.

speaker-1: And yeah, the first bit of follow up, speaking of new hardware, this is something we've known about for a while, but the Enterprise NVR Core, the big $5,000, I think it's what, 4U, 3, 3, 4U, it's a big rack mount NVR for I think what, 500 HD cameras or 300 4K cameras. If you feel like spending $5,000 plus whatever hard drive costs these days, you can now get that.

speaker-0: Yeah, hard drives have definitely gone up in price. I was looking to add another hard drive to my NAS and I was like, ⁓ 500 quid for an 18 terabytes a bit. Yeah, a bit expensive. Yeah, it's $5,000, three U with 16 hard drive bays, 300 4K cameras or 500 HD cameras. The swappable power supplies at the back. There's loads of fans, loads of connectivity. So, and what I found quite funny is that UICare for five years of coverage is a cool thousand dollars. So. It's now available to buy in the US, it's still coming soon in the UK, but if you need a really, really advanced NVR core then definitely go for it. One thing I found quite impressive is that they've, the RAM on this thing, it's got 64 gigabytes of RAM, which is quite...

speaker-1: That's half your five grand right there.

speaker-0: Yeah, exactly.

speaker-1: I will say, ⁓ just because we had talked about it a few months ago in our kind end of year words, I think this is a new adjective. We have core now. ⁓ I know we have the enterprise MVR core. I'm sure there'll be a gateway that has that. And I think we'll see other core products here.

speaker-0: I so, yeah.

speaker-1: Speaking of silly names and silly topics, don't have my conspiracy hat handy, so no tin foil for this. But I think it was about a week ago, so I think it was like March 23rd. The US FCC announced that they are going to ban the import of new foreign-manufactured consumer-grade routers. So this doesn't affect anything Ubiquiti currently sells or anything, Netgear, TP-Link, et cetera, anything that is currently for sale will still be allowed to be sold, but this is new models. So for things that are under development or to be introduced later, they want to ban them as long ⁓ as they're manufactured in a foreign country, which I don't know how much you know about the US manufacturing base, but. we don't manufacture most. So this is ⁓ kind of a ⁓ blanket ban on all consumer grade networking devices. ⁓ There's been a lot of ⁓ people trying to say like this doesn't affect Ubiquiti or it does. I think it's kind of unclear. It seems to be no matter who makes it, ⁓ if you manufacture it outside the US, it's affecting you. So I think Ubiquiti mostly manufacturers in what, Taiwan?

speaker-0: I think some stuff in China some a lot of stuff in Taiwan. I believe yeah

speaker-1: Yeah, and I think some Vietnam as well for some other stuff, but ⁓ pretty much I'd assume most everything ubiquity sells relies on components that are foreign made and is assembled and manufactured in a foreign made facility. So ⁓ we'll see if, if, this is just going to be a long list of exceptions. ⁓ The FCC said they can make exceptions, but you kind of need to explain why you aren't. manufacturing them in the US and what is your plan to move manufacturing to the US? So we're not a political podcast as we always say, but ⁓ this definitely ties into politics. ⁓ Yeah, I have a feeling this is kind of an overreach or we'll be walked back. We'll see what the exception process looks like. But as of right now, maybe buy the hardware you're interested in and ⁓ keep an eye on how this goes.

speaker-0: Okay. Yeah, our friend Jesse from Tabqix did a video explaining, well, he explained it at a good level, I think. So we'll link that in the show notes. But it's a little bit sort of a bit gray based on what they class as consumer grade. I can imagine that's a bit frustrating for people who are selling stuff in the US and want to know what is the government going to class this stuff as? Is ubiquity consumer grade because people who operate it in the home or is it business grade? It's a bit confusing of what they mean to be honest.

speaker-1: Right, if they just put a sticker on that says like, made for business, is that enough? We'll see. ⁓ I hope this kind of either goes away or becomes a non-story, but it does seem like a pretty serious thing. If this is their goal to either force people to manufacture stuff in the US or ban foreign-made stuff, that's a lot of products.

speaker-0: Yeah, it's a hmm. I can imagine that's going to be a bit confusing in terms of admin for them and it might get Yeah, it might get walked back, but we shall see who knows. Yeah

speaker-1: But speaking of Jesse, ⁓ he had a lot of good videos. We tend to just say, go watch his channel. But he and a bunch of others were at ISC West. Did you see anything from that conference?

speaker-0: I watched Jesse's video and that's the only thing I've found that was sort of... I love Jesse's videos because they're so straight to the point. There's no messing around. He just gets straight into what you want to see basically and he did good job of filming all the stuff that was there on show. I think he joked at start of the video saying, welcome to UBC Las Vegas. And then he was like, no, actually. Yeah.

speaker-1: Yeah, not a a ubiquity conference officially, but they did have a big booth there. They showed off a lot of stuff that we've talked about. The multi sensor for camera, the dream router, 5G Max, the UNVR core that we mentioned at the top of the show, the alarm hub, smoke and air quality sensors. Finally, the big thing that I saw that was new was the UDM beast, at least as far as I think we knew something like this was coming. I'm not sure that we knew that name before. this but yeah there is a new it seems like it's kind of above the Pro Max level so more higher bandwidth ports a lot of 10 gig interfaces and 25 gig interfaces but UDM Beast how do you how do you feel about that name?

speaker-0: It'd be interesting to know if there was going to be a core, a UDM core for example, or an EFG core, where this sits in terms of their lineup. But it is getting a bit confusing in terms of what sits where at the moment in terms of their cloud gateway devices. I mean, if people got the need for it, yeah, I mean 25 gig SFP 28 ports potentially. I mean, we don't know any specs yet. We're just going on what you can see from the video, but. It's good that they're going a bit more high end, the namings... You've put in the show notes, woeful naming. It's going to be quite tricky to work out where things sit in terms of the hierarchy, I think.

speaker-1: Yeah, and that's, ⁓ I'm all for silly names and ⁓ having something unique. ⁓ I don't think everyone in the computing industry should just go with Apple and say Pro, Pro Max, Ultra, whatever. Creativity is good, but UDM Beast, I don't know, especially with the font. ⁓ Jesse showed the little like front plate and it literally looks like Mr. Beast's font, know, the YouTube creator. So yeah. Maybe he sponsored the name or who knows. We'll see when that comes out. ⁓ yeah, Jesse had a good video and there's, as always, of new stuff coming out, coming up soon.

speaker-0: Yeah, I thought it was quite nice that the air quality sensors had some LED backlights to let you know if the air quality in the area you're in is good or bad. So it was orange where they were. So it's not great. And finally, they had the smoke alarm. think I'm not sure if we talked about it, but I'd imagine I think it was maybe last episode, but we talked about maybe regulatory problems with that device had probably been slowing them down in different markets. So it's good to see that actually does exist because It's a good replacement for the Nest Protect devices that people have got.

speaker-1: But speaking of hardware we can actually buy now, ⁓ G6 Edge cameras.

speaker-0: Wow, not quite yet. They are coming soon. ⁓

speaker-1: ⁓ okay. Another coming soon?

speaker-0: Yeah, these were sort of a surprise announcement the other day. So for those, well, I'd imagine people watching this are quite aware of how ubiquity systems work, but a very brief overview. If you want to use their camera systems, you have to have a server device at your house or workplace recording the footage from the cameras. And that's been maybe a bit of a, what do call it, like an adoption barrier for people, I think. The cost barrier of that's been quite high. So Ubiquiti has released, well announced these three new cameras in bullet, turret and dome form, which are essentially an all-in-one device, which is quite impressive. So it's got the NVR built in, admittedly using quite a small amount of storage, which makes sense. It's got the AI key features built in. So that's quite impressive. And we don't know the prices yet of these three cameras. I'd imagine they're going to be quite pricey. but hopefully not as expensive as it would be to get... If you just need one camera for example, hopefully not as expensive as an NVR or an NVR Instant or something along those lines. yeah, these are quite interesting. The one I found the most interesting was the G6 Edge Bullet because it's essentially a G6 Pro Bullet with the vision enhancer in one device. So it's got the radar function, it's got the improved night range. not sure if I the speaker as well, but it's like a very, very high-end camera that they're looking at here. if they bring this to doorbells, like a G6 doorbell edge or whatever they call it, that's going to be a very good device going forward because when you look at comparisons to Ringer, for example, it's a bit of a price bearer, as I said. So what do you think?

speaker-1: Yeah, I mean, I think they kind of worked their way up here, like the build in SD card slot for edge recording. That's that was what a G six line feature, I think, or G five, G six. ⁓ Most of the newer or higher end models have that SD card slot to do local recording. They sold that as like if your NPR is offline for whatever reason, or you can, you know, retain a certain amount of video on the camera and then offload it. ⁓ It seems like they're just kind of putting that all together and now, yeah, Dream realized you have one camera, you don't need anything else anywhere. So I don't know if it's going to be great as like a entry level, at least these three models so far, they kind of take the G6 Pro version of that. So like the G6 Pro Bullet, G6 Pro Turret, and then they add these, you know, built-in recording features. So I would assume these are going to be five, $600 minimum. You know, that's what the Pro models cost. I don't know if this is gonna be a, know, hey, spend $700 and you don't need an NVR, what a savings. don't know if that's gonna be a good pitch. ⁓ I think technically it's really interesting with the AI key features built in, the recording built in. I could see that being convenient or there's probably a lot of little use cases I'm not imagining, but I don't know if it's gonna be a great entry level option though.

speaker-0: Yeah, the other thing is it doesn't look like you'd be able to adopt other cameras to a camera. this is where the fabrics, have we mentioned fabrics before? That's where that comes in. So these cameras will, like an MVR, will support fabrics. So essentially you could have three or four of these and pair them together within Site Manager. I think, yeah, like definitely could work, but I think they're probably trialing it with these high-end models and maybe it'll... maybe it will come down to something like a doorbell, which would be a really good option for people, I think.

speaker-1: I could see it like this is just me trying to think about where you want to use this. If you had a site like if you went to a trade show and had a booth and all you had was a cellular connection and you don't want to be uploading five megabits per second video constantly on that cellular connection, you would record locally to the camera or same thing with like a remote site. All you have is Starlink or cellular data. You don't want to be sending video constantly like those applications. This could be really sweet for that. ⁓ And there's probably a lot of other stuff like that where this would be really handy to have a single camera self-contained. I think it'd be really nice for.

speaker-0: Yeah, that's the key, isn't it? It isn't constantly uploading. Yeah, the G6 Edge Bullet has a pre-installed 128 gig micro SD card. There's no information about what the max card you can put in there at the moment. I also find this interesting. was digging through the FAQs. It has an embedded heater built in now to help reduce the initial condensation problems that these cameras can have. I definitely observed that. I installed the G6 Pro Bullet a few months ago and it had that for about three or four days, just the condensation on there to start with, so it eventually disappeared in the end. yeah, it's interesting. think it's a good direction for them to go in with their cameras. As we said, there's no prices. All three models are coming in Q3 2026. There's a little bit of a wait here. But yeah, as I said, I'd imagine they'll be... couple hundred dollars maybe a hundred more than the pro models that they are based on. Yeah, makes sense.

speaker-1: Built-in heater though, that's amazing.

speaker-0: Revolutionary.

speaker-1: Speaking of revolutionary and amazing, this one actually could be. Airwire. Now, if you've been following Ubiquiti for what, over a decade, decade and a half, I feel like I'm aging myself trying to bring this up, but there was way back in the day something called Airwire that was pretty similar, but this is a new product. It's Wi-Fi 7. It's a $200 dedicated Wi-Fi client device, essentially. If we talked about the UDB switch or UDB bridge, ⁓ those devices I think late last year, and these are similar where they're dedicated Wi-Fi client devices. ⁓ And Ubiquiti is pitching this as like a really high performance option. If you either can't run an ethernet cable or just need more throughput for a wireless client, you can buy this, hook it up to your laptop or your iPad, phone, et cetera, and you get full Wi-Fi 7 MLO. ⁓ As with all Wi-Fi 7 MLO things, there's a lot of ⁓ acronyms and details and nerdy bits. It's not like you just flip a switch and magically everything's awesome. ⁓ But this is Ubiquiti trying to solve the problem where there's not really much client-side support for true ⁓ multi-link, multi-radio, the dream of what MLO can be ⁓ taken to its fullest extent. A lot of what ⁓ MLO devices that you can buy like an iPhone 16 or 17 those are MLO devices, but they do kind of a limited version of MLO and You'll drive yourself crazy trying to chase down those specifics and the like four or five main different types of MLO I kind of went down that rabbit hole. I will spare you but ⁓ Yeah, airwire if you want to spend 200 bucks rather than run an ethernet cable. You can get a couple gigabits per second ⁓ Did you watch any of videos about this. know a lot of people were really excited for, you know, high speed test numbers and those kind of things with this.

speaker-0: Yeah, there were some people saying it was a bit pointless or it's like a technical exercise for them to show what MLO can... I think there was one example where someone was saying, ⁓ the UniFi APs don't have proper MLO. So they sort of made this device to sort of prove that they do. Because as you said, especially battery powered devices, there's a limit of what they can do. and you've put like a spreadsheet in the show notes, which I'll put on the ⁓ video version of this podcast. people to have a look at. But I think it's quite impressive. I instantly thought of the old AIWire device as soon as the name was released, thinking, hmm, got Gen 2 now. And that was an old, essentially indoor point-to-point thing that you could set up. But yeah, that's going back quite a long time, 2010, I think. yeah, mean, yeah, good on them for making something that shows off what MLO can properly do. And I'd imagine, yeah, as you said, the use case for it. is where you can't run cables potentially or need the throughput somewhere. Cody had the example where he's got a Mac mini for his editing, I think he said. and he's got it somewhere where he can't run any cables for some reason. So this would work really well. Cause I think he was getting five gigabit per second on it. So, ⁓ yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely very impressive. The only thing it is lacking is an ethernet port. ⁓ You have to use USB-C to a desktop computer. So it's essentially designed for a PC or a laptop or something along those lines so it's not really designed for connecting other devices with ethernet but yeah.

speaker-1: Yeah, and that would be the UDB switch. ⁓ That would be, it's kind of like this product with a built-in, what, eight or nine port BOE switch. That's what that is. ⁓ This is just for, you you need a big wireless pipe to a device. And yeah, the USB power that I did see it noted, it's 15 watts ⁓ power consumption under normal mode. For the full performance, you need 20 watts. So yeah, that's a... Good example of why you're not going to see full fat all the nerd knobs cranked to 10 mLO on a battery powered device because turns out using two radios more than doubles your power. Who'd have known? So very cool. I really don't like the method. I don't like how people poo poo this to say like, it's just ubiquity showing off or no one's going to use this. I think it's really good that they're chasing the technology. They saw that there's not good MLO capable wireless clients, so they built one. That's awesome. It's good to see them leading in that way. I don't know if I would spend $200 on this, but the fact that it exists and they built the technology into that to make it all happen, very cool stuff.

speaker-0: Oh, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's got like a folding hat that come sort of the antenna you can position it and point it towards a unify IP if you want to get better connectivity. That antenna is quite punchy. It's 11 dBi's of gain on 5 GHz and 6 GHz. So it should do some fairly good distances really indoors. So yeah.

speaker-1: Yeah, it should. It's like two megaphones pointed at each other. They're screaming. Yeah. Yeah, I can hear you.

speaker-0: Yep.

speaker-1: ⁓ Last bit of hardware, did you see the SuperLink Gateway HA?

speaker-0: I yeah. So the SuperLink Gateway came out around about a year or two ago and it's designed to connect the upcoming range of SuperLink accessories as well as the outgoing all-in-one sensor that was Bluetooth before. So this is a new larger device and it's meant for more maybe mission-critical applications because it has a built-in battery now so it can operate without power. any mains power. It's also got support for LTE or 4G connectivity, which I'm a bit confused on how that will work. We'll get to that in second. It's also dropped the support for Bluetooth and it's adopted support for thread, which has also raised a couple of questions as well. So we know that Ubiquiti is using 900 megahertz for their SuperLink devices. Is this them moving toward using thread as well for those devices or is it simply They've tacked on thread, so this can be a thread border router for smart home accessories. That's something I'm not sure about, why they've put thread in there. But maybe that'll mean that they'll start to support thread accessories within Unified Protect, I don't know.

speaker-1: Yeah, I think that's kind of up in the air. I think I think that's part of it. I think it's ⁓ maybe they had the hardware in there and they just, you know, enabled the feature. I don't know if they're going to release thread based sensors ⁓ or if they're just going to be supporting other manufacturers devices and allowing this to be, you know, the the border router for those devices. I'm not sure. Yeah. The LTE thing, though, makes sense to me. I mean, in my mind, you'd put this where ⁓

speaker-0: I think they might be.

speaker-1: If you lose power, you have the built-in battery. If you lose your internet connection, you have cellular as a backup. So if you have a entry sensor, smoke alarm, whatever SuperLink sensors you have, they would also work when your power is out and when your internet connection is down. I think that's the goal, right?

speaker-0: Yeah, I was a bit confused because the sensors have to report back to the NVR and the superlink also connects to the NVR. So I'm wondering what happens if this loses connection to the NVR, but it has power with internet. I don't know how, how are you planning on making that work? Whether the superlink gateway HA can become, if you get what I mean, like a controller for protect. Yeah, it's weird. They haven't really answered that question and no one's had it. yet to test that feature out so we'll have to wait and see what happens with that.

speaker-1: Yeah.

speaker-0: Yeah, quite cool. I think they'll end up supporting third party thread accessories because there's a whole bunch of those for HomeKit and different platforms. There's loads of different ones. For example, Ikea came out with a whole range of thread accessories and they're like $3 for an air sensor. So that'd be quite cool if they can support that sort of stuff. yeah.

speaker-1: Yeah, it makes sense. I'm not much of a smart home guy. My home is pretty dumb and I still get a little bit confused when you're talking about matter versus thread versus Zigbee. I know that there's ⁓ licensing differences, spectrum differences, ⁓ different manufacturers prefer. I just I get confused. So if anyone out there knows thread, let us know ⁓ what this could possibly be useful for.

speaker-0: Yeah, so Thread is basically the underlying technology which allows these devices to work together. It's essentially like another wireless protocol. And then Matter is a technology layer on top of that, which allows different smart home platforms to talk to each other at the same time, basically. So yeah, there we go. And then there's a couple of bits of software I want to talk about.

speaker-1: Whatever, nerd.

speaker-0: The main one of which was Protect 7. We did have a little scroll through all the software for this month and it's been a bit boring if I'm honest.

speaker-1: Lots of stuff. Yes.

speaker-0: I mean

speaker-1: Dozens, hundreds of software releases and most of them seemed like bug fixes or minor. But this is pretty big.

speaker-0: Yeah, so Protect 7 is now here and there's quite a lot to look at. you can now customise the dashboards. So in the past, basically if you wanted to create those multi-camera feeds, you'd be stuck to what Ubiquiti's design guidelines are. So you have like one big one, three or four small ones. You can now go in and mess it up and have fun with the designs you want to do and have a bit more flexibility there. So that's quite a nice option. I have tested it, it doesn't seem to work on the viewport yet. So hopefully that will change, but the viewport seems to be stuck on whatever layouts you've already set, which is a bit odd. There's also instant offsite archiving to various cloud providers like Google Drive and Microsoft and that sort of thing. So in real time, we'll start uploading things to those services rather than a manual archive like it was previously, so that's quite good. There's also another improvement to the Find Anything tab, so when you go through and search for different events, the filtering has been improved. You can now look for... It was split between basic, so motion detections and smart detections before. You can now look at all of them in one big feed, which is quite useful. And then you could upload an image for the AI key to sort of find something in existing footage.

speaker-1: I that ⁓ upload an image to match, like they showed in the video, they just showed like ⁓ upload a picture of a car and it'll scan all of your footage of that car in your parking lot or whatever. That's a really cool, ⁓ like image recognition, computer vision enhancement is required for that, but ⁓ very cool feature though.

speaker-0: Let's see how that works in practice, Because if you do a reverse image search on Google, sometimes it's a bit hit or miss. So hopefully it's a bit better than that. And this isn't just unique to Protect, though. This seems to be on every single level of Ubiquiti software right now, for the most part. There seems to be update rollbacks, which is it looks like it's for Protect system itself, Unify as well, AP updates and that sort of stuff. So they obviously want to make that rollback experience a little bit easier because sometimes there are issues so you need to roll back and it's a little bit tricky sometimes copying and pasting a url in and then it says update again so yeah that's good. And then you mentioned there's a new, so you said there's a higher end hardware, the Alarm Hub. Is that a new, I haven't been taking a date with the Alarm Hub stuff.

speaker-1: Yeah, they just in their hype video talking about protect seven, they also mentioned the new hardware and they really focused on the high end options. So they talked about the Env, our core saying you could have 300 4K cameras. And they mentioned the alarm hub for up to 32 ⁓ sensors or access devices, I believe. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I didn't see the alarm hub in the store, so I assume that's, you know, soon to drop. We've known about that for a while, but. ⁓ The ENVR core is out now too. They just they called those two things out

speaker-0: I've just found the alarm hub now. It wasn't in access. I thought it would be in access, but it's protect. So four dollars available in March. They've got one day left to make that available. Powered by Peerway plus plus optional battery backup. So I'm not a very good on my knowledge on alarm systems isn't that high. So but it looks like it's got a lot of dry contacts to various things and there's a mountain there for the superlink gateway. So that's Yeah. And then, yeah, I going to mention the moonlight. Do you know what that is? Because I've done some googling and can't find out what the Moonlight service is.

speaker-1: That, yeah, it was just kind of like a throwaway line at the end of the video, but it seems like a pretty big thing. To me, that's becoming more of like a security system in the way that ⁓ they'll have people automatically call 911 for you type of, know, like ⁓ someone's breaking into my house. ⁓ You know, they will contact the authorities. That's my guess for what that means. But yeah, they just said the official Unifi monitoring service ⁓ with their partners, Moonlight, is coming soon. So I just, assume that's going to be an add on subscription, you know, pay a hundred dollars for a year or whatever per location. And then they'll, you know, call 911 on your behalf if they detect an intruder or whatever that features or whatever those features are going to be.

speaker-0: Hmm, I have to see what that is. They do seem to be diving into more add-on services like CyberSecure and these sort business grade features and that's what people want, so it's good.

speaker-1: Yeah, and building out from you just have a video feed to you're a full monitoring security platform. Yeah, seems like a logical thing to add.

speaker-0: Oh yeah, let's do it, that's good. So the very last thing is the unified travel router, and this is 65250. There's quite a few improvements in here, one of which is the boot time has been improved again, which is a running joke. Every update has improved boot time. There's various things to USB tethering improvements and configuration changes times, but there's a few ones in here. There's... Same SSID roaming has been added for support, which seems a bit of a missing feature that, it's like an obvious missing feature if you know what mean. OpenVPN has been added and then also the big one is save networks. It only really knows to connect to the one it's last connected to. So now it will have possibly a list of saved networks. More important if you have got a password that you wanna use on that. But yeah, I mean, I've been using the travel router. past few weeks again when I doing some traveling and it works really, well. So I'm still quite impressed with it. But good to see that's improving it.

speaker-1: Does it have a built-in heater though?

speaker-0: Yeah, it does get quite warm. Yeah, does get...

speaker-1: I guess that feature is already active then,

speaker-0: Yeah, definitely just get quite warm up device. But yeah, that's good. Lots and lots of improvements and quite a big ⁓ month here really, so it's all good.

speaker-1: Yeah, I'm still disappointed that the edge cameras aren't available now. just... Tell us about it when it's ready, you know? So much stuff coming soon still.

speaker-0: Yeah, that's Q3 is quite a long time to wait. yeah, we shall see. And then you put in the show notes, I didn't realize you've actually now got 72 different individual devices or skews for protect.

speaker-1: Yeah, I didn't see other categories, but I did notice if you go to the, ⁓ what's the tab on the store? Yeah, camera security. ⁓ The default tab has like a smart overview little. And it shows you kind of like a guided like here's your MVR options. Here's your camera options. Here are the accessories. And I don't know if that's a really good idea or a sign that they have too many different products. But the fact that there's 72 things under that category. ⁓

speaker-0: camera security.

speaker-1: Just made me laugh, so.

speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. They've got the professional range of sensors, the ultra-valley range, ultra-valley doorbells, starter doorbells. Interestingly, the starter doorbells and the G4 doorbell. Anyway, it's a bit weird. But yeah, it's like a smart way of showing people what they want because there's a lot of stuff. mean, yes, there's a lot of cameras that they've got now. I imagine for a new user, it's quite overwhelming.

speaker-1: Now use the Smart Overview and they'll be smart.

speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, I think that's it for this episode. Is there anything else that you'd noticed that your picture's done last month you want to bring up or we've got everything covered do think?

speaker-1: No, I will say when I was digging into the ⁓ Airwire, ⁓ Tom from Ubiquiti, I know he presented at UWC. So ⁓ if you went to UWC, I'm sure you know him, but he's kind of the Wi-Fi evangelist. I'm not sure of his actual dub title for Ubiquiti, but he's done a bunch of presentations. And I saw he did one about, ⁓ let me see if I can break down the acronym. is ⁓ simultaneous transmit and receive multi-link operation. STR MLO in production. So he was kind of hinting at, it was recorded right before, I think it was ⁓ earlier in March. So was before the Airwire was released. So he kind of hinted at it. But he did talk about, you know, a little bit of context for that product and how MLO is a bit challenging. ⁓ So yeah, WLPC has a lot of good videos and that one we'll link in the show notes.

speaker-0: Yeah, he was speaking at WRPC Phoenix 2026. So I'll link that. Yeah, we'll all link that in the show notes. And then you, and then we'll also link the, just for fun, the data sheet for the old Airwire as well. If people want to a trip down memory lane. Nice. Yeah. And I think you've been working on this in the past month or has it just been busy, busy, busy for you at work? How about you? Yeah. It's been quite busy.

speaker-1: Good stuff.

speaker-0: ⁓ being quite busy with car stuff. think, I think just a heads up, the episodes for the end of the end of April will end up being late because I'm going to China with, ⁓ one of the car brands. So that's awesome. Yeah. It overlaps the overlaps the end of the month. So we'll end up for those who are waiting for the episode, we'll end up publishing it in early May, ⁓ by the look of things. So yeah, all good. ⁓ but it's been lots of stuff. There's UWC in four weeks, I think, if I can count properly. So that'd be quite exciting. UWC London. So hopefully there'll be some stuff we can talk about after that. yeah, it depends on what they talk about. There's a lot. Usually they just sort of say, no, you can't talk about this. But hopefully there'll be a few things we can mention. yeah.

speaker-1: We just want the UDM beast.

speaker-0: Yeah, that branding's funny. It reminds me of Cybertruck branding as well. The same logo. Interesting. Anyway, ⁓ thank you so much for watching and listening to the UI Chat podcast. You can find my website, theinterface.uk. You can find this podcast on YouTube, if you're watching this on YouTube, ⁓ at UI Chat podcast and then on all the different audio platforms. Please go and subscribe and give us a like over there. What about you, Evan? Where can people find you online?

speaker-1: evermccann.net

speaker-0: Lovely stuff. Again, all the links to everything we've talked about in this episode will be in the show notes or in the podcast description. Thanks again for watching or listening and we'll see you again next time.

speaker-1: See you.