speaker-0: On today's show, finding and selecting your next show calf with our special guest, John Gevninger. Let's go! To the Front, the show that answers questions for Stock Show families. Presented by TTF Nutrition, livestock supplements that get you to the front. Hey, I'm Tony Morris. Welcome to the front. I'm joined normally at this point, I say I'm joined as always by the lovely and talented Thomas Gross. But you can see Thomas is noticeably absent. So we've got a very, very special guest tonight, and one that I'm thrilled not only for us to have on the podcast, but for us to work with TTF, somebody I've known and of mine for a very long time, our special guest, John Gevlinger. So John, welcome to the front.

speaker-1: Thank you for having me. Looking forward to it man.

speaker-0: Yeah, this is great for us. I ⁓ typically it's just two ⁓ midwestern overweight guys talking about stuff. ⁓ and so to get a special guest in here that's actually got some credibility is really gonna add to what we do. So thank you very much for being here. This is gonna be great. Yeah.

speaker-1: Careful though, I am originally from the Midwest, so

speaker-0: You are. You are. And tell everybody, ⁓ you do have kind of an interesting story. So tell us a little bit real quick before we get into the to the listener questions, just run us through how you went from a midwestern guy up in what Wisconsin to where you are now. Tell us your story quickly.

speaker-1: I originally was born and raised in Wisconsin. ⁓ got into the ⁓ cattle industry through my uncle Bob May. And ⁓ then I went to Stillwater, Oklahoma for school. And I I actually transferred in I went to a ju junior college for a couple of years and went to ⁓ Oklahoma State there. I had a I was heavily influenced ⁓ by a lot of people in the livestock industry that thought that would be a a good decision for me and it was and I really liked my time in Stillwater and then I ended up in Texas ⁓ because of a girl. So my wife ⁓ I met my wife in in college while I was in Stillwater and ⁓ sh I tried to move her to Oklahoma and that lasted about two weeks and ⁓ we ended up in Texas. And to tell you the truth, ⁓ on a serious note, I had always had ⁓ some sort of an affinity for Texas. I just I remember being a little kid and looking at the show circuit magazine and flipping through and I guess that dates me a little too, but looking at the magazine and seeing win win wind picks of Slickshear ⁓ show cattle and just always was intrigued by that. Thought that was pretty cool, you know, growing up around hair and I guess anything's different. ⁓ the kids down here probably look at those Midwest state fairs in Kansas City and Louisville, Denver and just envy that and so I just I was always kinda drawn to Texas too, just the it does seem like ⁓ Texas has an affinity to the with the Texas majors and the opportunities and just the sheer volume. So Texas has been good to us.

speaker-0: Yeah, nearly everybody, I think, in the livestock world and and now it's almost in every species, I think there's some fascination or affinity, as you say, to the state of Texas. It's so large, huge opportunities, great livestock and great livestock people ⁓ in that state that it's it's one of the my most enjoyable states when I get a chance to visit. So I totally agree with you. I think it doesn't matter if you're into cattle, sheep, goats, or pigs. ⁓ right now I think Texas is just a pretty cool spot. And you're down there around San Anton. Where are you at? You're down in is that known as Hill Country, or am I sounding like a Yankee when I say that?

speaker-1: Yes, sir. It's ⁓ we are just thirty minutes north of San Antonio in Texas Hill Country. Hill Country runs all the way up two hours north of us as well, I guess too. But ⁓ yeah, we're right in the heart of Texas Hill Country and in a good spot. It's a little tougher raisin ⁓ right here probably than other parts of Texas, but there's a lot of families that show ⁓ and it's a it's a neat spot of the world.

speaker-0: Absolutely. Absolutely. And so you have got both what you do with the cattle world and you you tell us a little bit about that. You trade and sell, maybe even raise a few, ⁓ or maybe more than a few, really good ones probably across a lot of different age groups. And then have another piece of the business that you work on in a little bit as well. Tell us kind of what you and your wife all have going.

speaker-1: Yeah, so we ⁓ have always been both of us involved in the livestock industry. Currently, ⁓ you know, we're raising ⁓ we buy ⁓ sell and we've always had a little bit of a mindset of education along with it, whether it was selling show cattle or ⁓ now we have a supply business and we've always just I don't want to say prided ourselves, but we've always thought there was a really big need for just education, whether that was a family that used to show and their kids want to show now and things changed over the last fifteen, twenty years, or a family that, hey, their kid came to ⁓ one day and said we want to show calf and there's just a huge learning curve there and we've always just thought there was a kind of a need in the industry for helping people bridge that gap. and make that learning curve a little easier. And we just over the years have heard people say, you know, man, by the time we figured this out we were seniors and we just wanted to give families another, you know, maybe they could figure it out when their kid was in middle school and have a little more fun, a little more success and ⁓ and just we're hoping that we could help with some of the education to bridge that gap.

speaker-0: Thing I've always enjoyed and loved about not only your what you guys do for your YouTube channel, but just in knowing you what little I do is you've been very committed to making this a bigger tent and a more inclusive community and bringing in more people and giving them opportunity. ⁓ it reminds me Will Helty, you know, judged our state fair guilt show, and part of his grand drive speech had to do with we don't need less people in this business, we need more. And in order to do that, we've got to make them welcome and be inclusive and understand that not everybody is as beneficial as to have ⁓ Bob May in their corner, right? And so w if you're not in that position, how can we help those folks? And ⁓ I would take off my hat, but I'm really bald, but quite honestly my hat's off to you and your wife and what your family does, because I think that's a huge piece that we all need to be part of in this business is making things, you know, more inclusive and have less gatekeeping of good information.

speaker-1: Yep. And I thank you for that those kind words. I appreciate that. And it it isn't lost on me too. I mean, I was at a extreme advantage having come up with my Uncle Bob being my uncle. I mean, that's a that's a very nice privilege to have if this is what your your ⁓ sport is. And so that was that was a a a ⁓ really big advantage to me and I think ⁓ the the older I got the more I realized that hey, not everybody has that and ⁓ And with technology now I I hope that ⁓ you know, maybe we can be that for more people and help help more and and inspire and just like I said, if the more you know the more fun this game gets.

speaker-0: Absolutely. Absolutely. It's ⁓ yeah, not knowing what you're doing is only fun for about one time. And then if you're as competitive as most folks in this business, it gets old pretty fast. So tell us real quick before we get into these listener questions about stock up supply and what you guys do on the supply side, what got you into the supply game and and kind of how people would contact you or or reach out if they needed to get something that you guys might be able to help ⁓ with.

speaker-1: So a few years ago I just ⁓ in conversation with my wife I just had always looked at the supply side and was just intrigued by you know some of the different tools that we use and I had ideas for some new tools and just thought, you know, maybe we could start bringing value to this industry a little from that perspective too. And we started a few years ago and it really took off and we've had some ⁓ products that think brought a lot of people ⁓ you know some value, made their life easier, made it more fun. and along with that we incorporated the educational pieces of that through our social media content and ⁓ we started a supply business and it kind of took off and it grew and I don't know that I had a general vision, just I thought, man, I want it to be this someday. I just thought, man, you know, and I also think there's a there was a need in the industry for ⁓ an online store where you could kind of get everything in one spot too. And we're we're not all species right just yet and that's our that is our goal. But ⁓ right now I think if you need something for your show calf you can get it at stock up supply. If you need something for a show pig now, we're still growing that side of it, but you can get it there. And we're gonna quickly add the sheep and goats. And so ⁓ and then on our website, you know, when you go to look at a product, we have a video of me explaining how to use it and ⁓ what it's for and just to help people know that hey, I might not need this product but this is what it's for how do I you know, I see everyone use a a comb, this kind of comb. Why why do I need that comb? And so just wanted to be a source ⁓ for education and helping people make some of those decisions as well.

speaker-0: Yeah, it's amazing. It is amazing. And I will I will say again, ⁓ you are now starting to work with ⁓ I'm gonna say our good buddy Doug Albright. We won't say too many good things about him. You know how he gets, but That's right. Yeah, we don't want to change hat sizes. Yeah, absolutely love Dougie. ⁓ but starting to put out some great content there as well that kind of mirrors what you're doing on the cattle side. ⁓ and so that just commitment to education, no matter what the species is, seems to still be paramount with

speaker-1: He already has a big head.

speaker-0: With J G and with stock up supply.

speaker-1: Yeah, I think that'll always be a core value of ours is the educational piece. And I think another core value that we saw in Doug and the people that we work with in the future, if you see ⁓ on our educational channels, are people that have a heart of a teacher. Th there's just like I said, there's that's where we want to be able to bring value, is just help bridge the gap in the the knowledge. I mean you can't go to there's very few schools where you can go to to learn about the the show livestock industry. So we we feel like that's kind of our place is to help bridge that gap for families and have more fun.

speaker-0: Well, you're doing an amazing job of it. So the way we typically do, ⁓ to the front podcast is we just get in ⁓ listener questions. So this is completely an open forum. So this is my quick pitch. If you are listening in and we don't cover something you want us to talk about, ⁓ just leave us and comment, send us a message, and we will if we can't talk about it, we'll bring on the right people to talk about it. So these it's getting to be cattle buying season, right? There's ⁓ As I open up my Facebook page, ⁓ if I don't see Thomas Gross, I see a lot of cattle sales getting advertised. So we've got a ton of questions here from listeners that all involve just either getting into the cattle business for the first time or what they're gonna do with their projects. So we're gonna jump into these and we're gonna let an expert weigh in. So here's question one. So ⁓ question one comes from Sarah. And Sarah asks, What is the number one piece of advice you would have for selecting your new showcalf? So, John, what's the number one thing you want families to keep in mind when they are trying to buy their first gap?

speaker-1: So I would say a lot of it has to do with defining your goals and expectations. I would start there because I think a lot of times we go out and we try to find the best calf or the best pig. And I would say that that's not always the best in the end, because like in our world where we live, that you could be first in your class in a lightweight division, you could be first in your class in a heavyweight division. And sometimes picking your battles is the best way to be successful, s especially at the at the start. If if you if a family came to me and said, Hey, we don't want to win the show, but we want to be competitive in our class, we want to be competitive in a breed, I would go a different route and find in a different calf, or I would steer them in a different direction. And so I would say the first thing that we like to do is look, let's sit down as a family, get mom, dad, sister, brother, what is our goal at the end of the year and and begin with the end in mind a little bit in that, hey, my goal is to win our county show. You might buy a different calf than if your goal is to win a class at your state show or and so I think that's the best place to start is just goals and expectations, Sarah, and get you a plan and then go find a calf that fits that plan instead of just getting in a pickup one weekend and going finding, okay, this is the best calf. I think you're probably better off having a picture of what that calf looks like and going finding that calf than going and finding the best calf.

speaker-0: That's a great point. And we we've talked about that really across species. ⁓ Thomas and I have talked about that. That the best for you might not mean the best one you can find, right? It's the best one based on those those goals that you put together. And and you know, I was with I was with a ⁓ group of pretty amazing people the last two days. ⁓ Kelly Wayne Scott and her husband Adam are up in North Texas, and they are like the greatest. halter horse trainers in history and they've won 300 world championships. And I asked, like, what's the difference for you between 300 world championships and 301? And they said, it's not about that. It's about the impact that these have for the families that get a chance to show them. And the very first thing you have to have if you're gonna have that impact you want this project to have in your kids' life is a defined set of goals and expectations of what success is going to look like. And to your point, I don't think it matters if that's cattle. If it's goats, if it's sheep, if it's sports, ⁓ defining what your goals are and setting expectations up front and being true to it, ⁓ to me just seems like the best way to go about life.

speaker-1: Mm-hmm. It just it just helps you too when you get to the end of it to know let's be honest, in this deal it's very subjective world we live in too. And so if you kinda have your roadmap at the beginning, you can kind of measure your success, not based on whether the judge liked your calf or not, based on ⁓ sometimes it could be based on whether you you felt like you guys set out on a plan and you accomplished it and maybe the cat the judge liked your calf that year and maybe he didn't. But it's it's a little easier to look back and measure success. not just based on and it sounds cliche but 'cause we all are competitive and want to win banners, but like it it's a little easier to look back and get a true perspective of how that year went too.

speaker-0: Yeah, very much so. And again, like I don't I just my son was really big into sports, right? He played a ton of travel baseball. And so I remember when we first sat down with him and had a conversation about what travel team he was gonna play with, of the options he had, and we had to dis okay, what are your goals for the game of baseball? And for him it was he wanted to be a college baseball player, and luckily, ⁓ he is one. ⁓ but you know, that was about baseball. same family sits down and talks about show pigs or show cattle. ⁓ and man, you can sure see people that don't do that and kind of the wreck that it can create late in the like you said, we're we're paying a lot of money to have one person who we might not know tell us whether or not we did a good job. And if that's your only measure for success, man, there's a good w chance you're gonna be disappointed.

speaker-1: There'll be one person that's not disappointed.

speaker-0: Yes, yes, yes, that is for certain. So along those lines, Bralin sends us question number two and he just asks, What's the biggest mistake you see families make when they are coming out to select their next project, their next showcast?

speaker-1: That's a good question, Braylon. I could go a lot of different directions with that. I would probably revert back to a little bit of what we were just talking about. Just just going out in the pen and picking the the best one. And I think a lot of people can do that. Like you can go out in the pen and be like, Hey, that's the best calf here. I want that one. But does he fit what we're wanting to do? Is size wise does he fit the show we want to go to? Like he might be the best one, but can he get can he get ready in time? Is he gonna be too big By your fare. Like there's just so many factors that go into that. And ⁓ I think I think the other thing that we need to probably address sometimes is what are we getting with that calf? ⁓ I mean, if you're a newer family, you probably need to really look at I can go buy the best calf, but am I do I need other kinds of help? And I would probably relate this to Not to brag, but we could go buy any calf and we'd bring them home and we don't need just a ton of help. I love having help. I love bouncing stuff off. But let's say I know I don't know a a bunch about the show pig world. Like if if you if my little girl comes to me tomorrow and says, Hey dad, I want to show a pig, I'm gonna be like, Hey, we need to find somebody to help us with this show pig project. If my little girl comes to me and says, Hey, I want to show a steer next year, I'm gonna be like, Hey, I think I know where I can buy us a really good show steer. It it's a whole different thought process if she she comes to me and says, Hey, I want to show a pig. We're fixing to find us somebody that can help us with that show pig 'cause I could buy the best pig. I don't I couldn't even pick out the best pig, but if I could, by the end of the week we'd probably have that thing ruined. So I need somebody to help us with that. So I think the other thing that ⁓ was it Braylon? Braylon, I I would just let's get a game plan on do we need to buy The a pig or do we need to buy a program that's gonna help us buy a pig? Or calf.

speaker-0: So if somebody was coming to you, okay, if somebody's coming to JG and they're ⁓ you know, this is like you and I talk quite a bit. I was picking your brain not to even buy a steer from you. You know, this will be our second year showing a steer in central Indiana. And so if we show up at your doorstep, ⁓ being very much we're not rookies, but man, we can sure see the rookie year from where we're standing. ⁓ tell us what a proper, I don't know, service package would look like. And and how do I go about making sure that I define that up front? Like what's that conversation need to look like with a potential customer from your end as the guy sh selling cattle?

speaker-1: Yeah, and I think that conversation can actually start before you even go to look at a at a place. Like if you sit down as a family and you're like, Hey, we want to buy a show calf, but we also know realize that, hey, and I think this is where some self reflection comes in, you gotta know, hey, can we get this calf from point A to point B? And ⁓ I would before I went to to buy a calf, I would call and ask some questions like, Hey, we don't know it I think it's ver I think as a breeder, if a family calls me and says this, we don't know what we're doing. My kid wants to show a calf. I need your help. I would I love that conversation because usually those are the best families too 'cause they do they do what you tell ⁓ to 'cause they don't know how to do it wrong. And so I think it's great. And I don't mean that derogatory. I think I I'm pumped. Like I I wanna help a family be successful. And ⁓ so what that looks like with us is I mean, we're full full turnkey, we clip ⁓ we hoof trim ⁓ we help ⁓ feed ⁓ we help ⁓ with showmanship. But there's places you can go buy a really good calf and they they're a breeder and that's what they do. And it's not wrong. I mean it's perfectly fine. We go buy cattle from people that breed them and that's their strong point and that's what they do and they're running cows and and they don't have as much time to allocate to helping a a family. And so we buy cattle from breeders all the time and I don't expect them to help me. And if they're up front with it, I'm good good very much cool with it. But I do think if you're just getting started, you probably do need ⁓ somebody in your corner. You need to buy into more of a program. And that'll get you further than buying the best calf, I think. Now, if you know what you're doing, you're on cruise control, you can get a calf to point from point A to point B, that probably doesn't play in. Go go find you the calf that you think fits your Goals and expectations and run with it.

speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I think i that's become more of a deal, I think, in all species now than what it ever used to be. And with the pigs, you know, what we're doing with fitting and feeding on these things gets more complex year to year and more like cattle in c in quite honestly, in terms of what we're trying to do in daily hair care. And man, you see more and more of the I don't know, the team concept of it. Like, you know, I ⁓ I'm buddies with Blake Danner, right? And you see a lot of Danner livestock, and those folks are a team. And when they go, they're together and they, you know, feed and do all the things as a group and as a team. And there's a lot of good in that, I think, for for new families. ⁓ being on your own constantly ⁓ is kind of a lonely place to be. And so, you know, if you're in your area and you want to be part of a a squad, if you will, in the show cattle world. Coming to you and having that conversation up front probably enables that a little bit and helps you get more than just you even. You get the rest of the team kind of with you when you're in big shows and kind of around places, I would imagine.

speaker-1: Yep, and I don't I think sometimes people can and I'm I'm probably I don't want to assume too much, but I do think sometimes you see a team and it can look a little intimidating too. And I think those people are ready and well ⁓ usually open and welcoming to new people and especially the people that are doing it, they they wanna have new people into their program. So I would just have that conversation before I even w went to this to a breeder's place and just said, Hey, you know Lay it out, this is what we need. If you can't do that, it's not, you know, all or nothing. I just we we want you to know that we need help. And I think that's an appropriate conversation. And I honestly think nine times out of ten the people doing it wanna hear that and just know what they're getting into too. And I will say this. I we do this for a living. We ⁓ are in this game and I still like to have my crew we run with. And when I go buy a heifer for my little girl. I take into consideration the maybe not even so much that I can I need the help, but I like having somebody to bounce ideas off of. I also take into consideration, hey, when we go to the Junior Nationals, I want to go with that crew because I want my little girl around that that type of person. And I think that it's more than just again, the success. It's hey, I want my family to be around the right people when we go to the shows. I don't you know, I I think yes, the knowledge part is good, the good livestock is is important. And when we go to a show we load up with the expectations that we'd like to do well and win. But we also wanna be running with quality people that we want our kids to grow up around and that's important too to to us.

speaker-0: Yeah. And and don't forget, one of the most important things to consider is the snack game amongst that crew. Snack game and the crock pots have the right stuff in. That's ⁓ that's gotta be high on the list too, I think. For sure. Yeah, no doubt. So this kind of falls right in then to our last question, and Scott sent us a question that said

speaker-1: Yes.

speaker-0: What's the one thing, if you had to narrow it down to one thing that all families were required to do before you'd even do business with them, what's that one thing that you have to absolutely do ⁓ in this process, whether you're new to it or you're doing it for the last time in your life, what's the one thing you have to do?

speaker-1: Clarify that question for me a little, if you will, Tony.

speaker-0: So I I think what he means is through the buying process. So if if you are either brand new to buying cattle or man, I'm an old hat and I'm I've bought ten of these things and I know what I'm doing, no matter where you are, yeah, watch the one thing that is a must do. I'm never buying one unless I have

speaker-1: And looked at ⁓ Yep. And I know it's all the rage, this online sales, and I've sold them and that I'll be honest, I've had sales where 80% of the people didn't come look. So I'm not calling anybody out. This is fair game. But if if if a customer is if I've never met the customer and they call me and ask me about a calf, I w I really want ⁓ to come look. I want ⁓ to see wha how the calf acts. I want ⁓ to see what the calf actually looks like in person. ⁓ whether you're just getting started, it's your first year, it's your second year, it's it's also an opportunity for you to sit down with the breeder and just talk about some of these things too. So my one probably non negotiable is go go put your boots on the ground and have a conversation with the breeder and see the livestock. See that it's healthy, that it's the right size, that it's structurally sound, that it And and you might say, Hey, I don't even know what I'm looking at when I go there. You you can you c anybody, I mean, most people can tell if they walk out in the pen if one's wild or if they tie them up if they're wild or not. Like just little things. And a lot of times the breeders would have your back there too. If if you went there ⁓ or even called them, we've had people bid online and I've had some of my breeder buddies say, you know, man, I wish that family would have called me. They called me after the sale and said they bought a calf and I'd have told him there's no there's no reason for you to buy that calf. He's wild. You you know, if you got a if you he if he was a sixteen year old football player I'd have told him, Yeah, that's a calf for you but he said that was a first year kid and he said I'd I'd have told him to stay away from that one. So I would encourage you to talk to the breeder, but my number one negoti non negotiable would be just go there and look at the calf in person.

speaker-0: Yeah. This is this is great advice. I think when you walk through, we had three different questions. And then if you kinda pull all that together and you think about this and tell me, I guess if you agree, if there's any other takeaways you'd give for the people that listen, you know, the number one thing, first thing to do is define your goals. Right. What are we trying to do? We're not just buying cattle. We're trying to accomplish something with these. We're gonna all work towards a common goal and sit down and define what that goal absolutely is. ⁓ and then, you know, number two, ⁓ what to avoid, what's the biggest mistake is just gotta have an understanding of what all's gonna come with that, right? So what be honest with yourself about what you're gonna need, have an upfront, early conversation with that breeder, trader, whoever it is that we're wanna come by a steer, here's our goals, here's what we think we need help with, and under have an understanding of the service, the team that comes along with that. project and and know whether or not that's the best fit. I think was kinda number two we said. What else?

speaker-1: Can I add to that real quick is if you are gonna to me, if you go to somebody and say, Hey, I we need the help, I I think at that point, even if it's just that year, you need to buy into that. You need to listen to them. You don't need to listen to and this is just a personal preference, but to me, I'm just if I go by if I get in the show pig thing tomorrow and I come to Tony and say, Hey, we need the help. ⁓ we're gonna do what you tell us to, and we're gonna buy a pig from you. And we're gonna do that. I'm g I'm gonna listen to what Tony says, not twenty other people. I'm not gonna change feed every every time I talk to Doug. I'm gonna do what Tony tells me to that year, and we're gonna follow through with it. And I do think because here's the deal. You know what you're doing, Doug knows what he's doing, BJ knows what he's doing, but you can't listen to all three at the same time or they'll start to contradict each other. There's more than one way to skin a cat, but if you start listening to everybody's way it can get messed up quick. And so I would say, and na I don't mean that condescending. I just think that once you if you go to somebody for help, you need to buy in all the way and let's let's just commit to the plan, ⁓ their plan. And if it doesn't work out, hey, next year we can commit to someone else's plan. But for that year, let's let's buy let's buy in.

speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. It's and it's funny 'cause we all have I'm not gonna call anybody out, but I've got some very good friends and you probably have some I imagine everybody has people in their circle that will call you and ask your opinion and as soon as you give it, they will tell you either what somebody else told or tell you you're wrong. Yep.

speaker-1: And hey, hey, I've even caught myself. I've been guilty of it. I call a buddy and I'm like, What would you do in this situation? I'm like, Well, so and so said this and I so I do it to myself. But I always have to remind myself, man, if you if you want somebody's advice you it's time to buy and all all in at that point.

speaker-0: Yep. Yeah, that's great. That's a great point for question two is just, you know, know what's coming with it. Get make sure you choose the right people to have in your corner, and then listen to your people. I think it's probably the best thing to say there. And then number three, the one thing that you're not going to do that you absolutely must do is go see them. Go see them in person. Whether you feel like you know good cattle or not, you can always make sure your daughter likes the color or that the calves aren't crazy or that you actually like the people that you talk to on the phone and spend some time with them. So I think that's great advice for about anybody. And it really doesn't matter the species. We could apply that same thing no matter what you're into. Sean, it's been ⁓ it's a pleasure. I we thank you so much. We want to tell everybody that ⁓ you're gonna see more of ⁓ TTF and stock up supply kind of working together moving forward. ⁓ so as ⁓ stock up supply is moving into the to the pig space, ⁓ we're doing some things together. And I think you said it and and I just reiterate it. We want to work with you because we know you have the heart of a teacher. And Thomas and I very much believe that the best thing we can have is a big tent and be all inclusive with everybody in the livestock community and and and teach and not gatekeep information. And so whenever you find like minded people, ⁓ you really wanna work with them. And that's very much the case that TTF has with stock up supply and we're looking forward to kind of what we can do moving forward.

speaker-1: Yeah, agreed. I think ⁓ you guys have great products and ⁓ we're we're thankful that you ⁓ chose to partner with us on this and and also your guys's values align with ours and whenever we can do that I think it's just it's a win win.

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