Jason Corley: So more than like, I will say this. highly doubt that we're ever going to get rich doing this. So we're probably screwing like at some point our boys may never be able to play this game ever again. If we keep talking about the shit that we're talking ⁓ That no joke, is it? ⁓ I we are, we are 1000. I mean, I really honestly hope I really do.

Jacob Moreno: I ain't do... No!

Jason Corley: I hope and pray. we just lost your video, bro. Okay. Okay. what was I saying? I was saying, I really truly do hope that we get some support, for having these conversations that, you know, we'll give credit to, to Sean, whole Brooks for bringing this up. ⁓ One of the very time we had a conversation with them. I do want to give him, do you want to give him his flowers? said, you guys are

Jacob Moreno: No, I know, sorry. That was my fault.

Jason Corley: are talking and are going to talk. It's like he had this premonition, like he knew what was going to happen and he was just, you guys are going to, you guys are going to talk about things that everybody wants to, but everybody's scared to. And so far we're knocking that shit out of the park.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. ⁓ and we are. Why? What made you say that? What have you heard?

Jason Corley: like tonight with the fight like just the money thing like nobody wants to talk like yeah i mean all the parents want

Jacob Moreno: Well, that's not bad. We're just gonna say how much they make and...

Jason Corley: Well, we're already recording. but I mean, it's, no, it's, and it's not just that, but I mean, like bringing up like the whole 501 C three thing, you know, and ⁓ you what I mean? Like that is a touchy, touchy subject. And we've already got two voicemails within 10 minutes of posting that, you know, calling it the line, but let's just, instead of dicking around, let's just start this thing and get it underway so that we don't waste any good material. So yeah, you look great, man. You really do.

Jacob Moreno: Mmm. Let's go. I look good right here? Okay.

Jason Corley: really do. Welcome everybody to the Travel Dads podcast brought to you by Bardstown Bourbon and Green River Whiskey. I am your host Jason Corley alongside ⁓ my friend

Jacob Moreno: Jacob Moreno. Bienvenidos a episodio de Travel Dad Podcast.

Jason Corley: So Jacob, it is Wednesday night at 6 18. The whole line is blowing up. social media channels are exploding and I've got to get on the road in exactly 12 hours to head to our first tournament, which I don't know, might not even be allowed in anymore after we have these conversations. What's going on, man? How's your week been?

Jacob Moreno: Hehehe. Hehehe. Mmm. Good man. Good. Just easing in through work and now, you know, to take brand lead of baseball today. So was sick Monday, stayed home Monday from school, had a fever. Yeah, had a fever, came out of nowhere. And then, yeah, just And then today, Andrea took him up to, to see his trainer, which I like to take him on Wednesdays. I like for him to go on Wednesdays because he catches, he fields and he hits and weight lifts.

Jason Corley: Oof.

Jacob Moreno: in like an hour and 45, two hours span, so.

Jason Corley: Okay, all right. good, just trying to get ready to leave kind of thing, you know what mean? Sifting through trying to work on a lot of stuff with this podcast in whatever little time I do have because it's not just what we're doing here, but we're about to take it on the road for the first time. So stressing about that, stressing about having the right equipment and having the equipment working, testing all of that. Trying just, you know, also make sure that HUD's ready to go.

Jacob Moreno: How about you? Mm-hmm.

Jason Corley: that's that's responsibility that I have is to make sure that he's ready. Yeah, ⁓ you know, ⁓ that and then obviously just kind of sifting through all of the feedback that we got from our conversation with Jay. I mean, what an incredible conversation.

Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. That was man, I a lot of feedback from that too. I a lot of feedback on the side of is their teams really throwing money like it ain't nobody's business.

Jason Corley: Yeah. And I guess for me and you, I guess we've just always known it. So it didn't, you know, it's not surprising to us because we've, we've played at the national level since they were eight. So we're, we're familiar with it. We've, ⁓ let's, let's, let's not cut any bullshit. We've, we have both been the recipient of financial assistance now and then. And we also have seen ⁓ recipients of financial assistance.

Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jason Corley: So we know that it happens and we're not going to pretend and I'm not going to try to bullshit everybody and pretend that that you know that we don't know that it happens. So I guess to us it really wasn't that surprising. I guess it's just it's went to a different level now it seems like.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. I mean, even as you can tell, that conversation with Jay, he knew it was happening. He wasn't surprised as well. I just think it's, I think we're all caught off guard to the level that it's getting done. Now.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. And we're seeing, we're seeing teams that have never been, I guess you could say have never really been in your face about it as they are now. Like there's teams out there that have always kind of just, we've, they've, we've thought that they've just, and I don't want this to come across the wrong way. It's not that they're not doing things the right way. I'm not, ⁓

Jacob Moreno: No, they are doing it the right way. It's just...

Jason Corley: not what we're saying, but the way I'm trying to say it, it's going to sound like that, that they've always just kind of played it all. Yeah. And it's just like almost, so I'm going to, I'm going to bring this up because this is a really good, this is a really good analogy and I want you to hear me out. because I was thinking about this earlier today, I was having a conversation with two of my really good friends from my past archery life and both of them are in travel. Well,

Jacob Moreno: It's like somebody pulled back the cover.

Jason Corley: Daniel is the head coach of a travel ball team that is Brooks's age down in Louisiana, the Bayou Ballers. Okay. I have known Daniel Matthews. is, he is a dear, dear friend, dear, dear friend. We don't get to see each other a lot because he's in Louisiana and I'm not in the archery world anymore. But there was a time when you had a thought we were, we were, we were kin. We were next to kin. And then there's Stephen Altizer. Stephen Altizer is the head of the Pro division for Elite Archery, the outdoor group. Dear, dear friend, ⁓ he has a son, Camden, that is out I know what Camden is in, but he's played for the dirt, the, no, it's not the dirt dogs, it's the, they're out of Virginia. Dirtbags, he's played for dirtbags, and he's actually one of the,

Jacob Moreno: their dogs. The dirtbags.

Jason Corley: He's actually one of the dads that was one of the very first phone calls I ever made when we got the invite to go to bring HUD to the national team. He was one of the first calls I made. He was actually sitting in the stands at East Cobb that day, I think. And he was just like, yeah, he's just like, this happens all the time. I told him the scenario because I knew I could trust him. Told him the scenario and he's like, absolutely. He's like, this is an opportunity. You have to walk through the door. OK, so.

Jacob Moreno: Hmm

Jason Corley: I was talking to them today because I've been doing some things on the side here with our podcast with voiceovers and stuff for Media Kit. And I sent them some audio because this is audio that I used way back in the day. OK. And this is like tearjerker audio that I love and I still have. And I was thinking to myself, what we're dealing with with travel ball and the conversation we just have with Jay is a lot, a lot like what I went through with professional archery. OK. Hear me out.

Jacob Moreno: Okay. Really?

Jason Corley: Yes, hear me out. So when I first got into filming professional archery, when I first was the only media source that that industry had, I was it. There was nobody else. Cam media, none of that other shit ever existed until I brought the idea to the table. And it was me out filming friends of mine. Levi Morgan, Chance Bobeff, Danny McCarthy, champions, world champions. We would hunt, we would film, they would go on the range, I would film them. We were all kind of working together and I had the camera, they had the skill. And I was just documenting, was bringing to life professional archery that you literally were getting paid to shoot arrows in the woods and yet we're watching golf on TV, but these guys are shooting bows and arrow. And why are we not, you know what mean? Why are we not showing them kind of thing? So what I saw was, was the longer that I was in the industry, more that these quote unquote public idols, okay. These men,

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: that were world champions and all over the outdoor TV stations filming their hunts and their their shows are on TV. They were on pedestals in the public eye. Okay. A lot like these clubs in baseball. Some of these clubs are on pedestals. The SBAs of the world, the Wildcatters of the world, the MVP hustles, the VIA, you know what mean? And it's

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, you're, you know, you're Keynes, you're five star Mafia's, you're.

Jason Corley: I think what we're doing is we're peeling back these layers that expose them for what they were. So one of the things that happened to me was as I spent so much time around some of these individuals, and I'm not talking about those specific individuals, but a lot of individuals in the professional archery world that were put on pistols by the public, by ⁓ of the world, buying the products that they were ⁓ being shot, okay.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: I was watching them not be who everybody thought they were. And that destroyed me. It destroyed me. I see that exact same thing happening with Travel Ball. Some of these pedestals that we've had some of these organizations on, we're seeing them for what they really are. And what they really are is an ass. meme could be an ass. You could be an ass if could run, but a massive, massive ⁓ making operation.

Jacob Moreno: Mmm.

Jason Corley: which changes your perspective.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, mean, yeah, mean, like, you know, the conversation Jay said, some of these guys are, you know, they're getting put pressure on the coaches so much that to win, they have to win. If not, you won't be there. So in order for do that, I mean, that's like a fortune 500 company. bring a new, know, a new CEO, the board, you have to succeed. So you're going to do at all costs what you.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah.

Jacob Moreno: you what you can or what you have to do to succeed. And I think that's what it's the same thing with these teams. But I mean like you.

Jason Corley: Yeah. But you know what mean though? Like it's peeling back some of these, some of these layers that we've, these levels, I you could say.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, yeah, you're pulling the blanket off. Yeah, you're pulling the blanket off and you're seeing the operation of how this is working.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. And it's, I it's just, it's, I don't know, it's eye opening. You know what mean? It's just, it's one of those things where you're like, well, shit, man. Like if, if I had the opportunity, would I, would I want to be a part of that? Like if that's, if that's how this is, if that's how this is being operated and if that's what this is about, like I thought this, man, you guys are not what I thought you were. Like it just, I think that it's going to get, and I'm not saying it's there now. I'm just thinking that like the more that we bring up these tough tough conversations that nobody wants to have, think we're gonna a lot more of the onion. And we're either gonna find out that that onion is white or it is rotten at the core. know? we're ruffle, we've already ruffled feathers and I'm sure we're gonna ruffle a lot more feathers, but ⁓ I just gotta real honest with you, they can eat shit, I don't care. I don't care. Like, my things are gonna be successful in life with or without you. So.

Jacob Moreno: And we're going to ruffle some feathers. No, I know. Mmm. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree.

Jason Corley: whether you give me stamp of approval or not, he's going to go on and do great things. ⁓ Yeah, and while I think you're getting I think you're getting better, I think that I'm projecting confidence in you to help stand your ground in your learning little things that like, OK, you know what? Like if I if I do if I do have my own opinion and I do stand strong with what I really believe, like nobody's going to come in and knock down my door tonight. Like you mean these.

Jacob Moreno: Yep. No, I mean, I'm the same way too, but in... Yeah, no, yeah, you 100 % man. I mean, I told you from the get go behind the scenes that, you I didn't want to jeopardize anything for Brantley. But it gets to the point to where, I these conversations have to be had. I mean, like we've said in the first couple of conversations that we had the first couple of episodes of people are asking questions, but don't want to say anything. So here we are. So here we are doing it for them, you know.

Jason Corley: Neither one of us do. Yeah. And who are like, yes.

Jacob Moreno: And I hope, mean, if it ruffles feathers, it ruffles feathers, but I mean, I'm not out here to try to create enemies or anything.

Jason Corley: No, but who's to say that the Lord doesn't have this lined up as our boy's path instead of playing a sport? Who's to say that this isn't what they take up because we've built this for them. So there's one thing, there's one thing that nobody can do. They can't take this away from them. They can't have this shit unless you buy it. And if you buy it, then we're all going to go live on an island and drink some little straws in them and all that. So it doesn't really matter, but you get what I'm saying though. Like I'm like, don't fear it.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. No, they can't take this from us. No, not one bit. Nope. Yeah. Yeah, I get what you're saying,

Jason Corley: And at the end of the day, like

Jacob Moreno: But you never have. You're the type of person that never has.

Jason Corley: I never have just because I guess I've grown up in a world where that's all I've ever seen is the exact opposite, is the fear of every little thing you do, you're going to upset somebody. I just refuse to ever live like that. ⁓ But I also, listen, man, you know, we don't have, there is not enough hours left in this night before I got to get on the road to talk about all the things that have shaped me into who I am today and why I don't give a shit because I have been road hard and put away wet.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah.

Jason Corley: just as much as the next guy. So I've learned my lessons and my circle is right there. So I have a question for you just to bring just because we're talking about it. What do you think realistically like what do you think this shit should cost a family like on a and let's stay in the national because the national would be the highest. You know what mean. If we if we talk about a regional or a local that's not going to merit then let's talk about the most expensive level

Jacob Moreno: Yay big.

Jason Corley: of ball that we can possibly play in as let's just say a 12. What do you think it should realistically cost? Because I've been I've been trying to figure this out.

Jacob Moreno: Me too. And it's hard because you're on the national schedule with a team up North. So that makes it difficult because now, because now you have to add travel because you have to travel anywhere. If you want to play good competition on a national level and you know that. Yes. Coming from the North. mean, so realistically.

Jason Corley: Correct. Good point. and from where we come from. Realistically, I still gotta go if I wanna go play at Grand Park, which is the closest. That's still four hours for me.

Jacob Moreno: Anywhere we- I mean, it's four hours for me too.

Jason Corley: Yeah. So it worked. Like you said, we're traveling no matter what we do.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, no matter what we do, we're still traveling and I mean realistically anywhere between probably 19 grand to 26.

Jason Corley: No, I mean per family like for like I'm just talking I'm not talking about all that I'm talking what should it cost you to join a team? Like what do you think realistically it should cost?

Jacob Moreno: Well, what do you get?

Jason Corley: Well, let's, let's say, all right, so you're getting your facility to practice at, you're getting your team, your facility to practice at. well, I don't know. And, and I'll, mean, because I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to ask you something that I have written down, which is why I'm trying to get your take because it's going up every year.

Jacob Moreno: Okay, so. It's going to probably be. 25 to

Jason Corley: for a national team.

Jacob Moreno: for a national team because now big difference national team all in the same area national team kids coming from across different states.

Jason Corley: Kids, it's coming from all kids coming from wherever. Just take our team. Just take our team for example.

Jacob Moreno: Okay, so example, I mean with that, you don't come in to practice. So all you should be paying, all you should be paying is for the tournaments. The way you divvy it up for every family tournament wise, so probably about two grand, 1500, two grand.

Jason Corley: I'm So the reason. Okay, now another thing, okay, I agree with that. So in your mind, in your head, what should the dues per kid, what should that money go to in your idea? Like what should that pay for?

Jacob Moreno: Well, OK, so I mean, for example, example, you know, the facility we use, I get it. You have to pay lights, heat in the winter, you know, keep it maintained. So, I mean, it goes towards that.

Jason Corley: They sure as ain't paying for air.

Jacob Moreno: No, no, no, but I'm saying like maintain, maintain wear and tear nets, balls, like I think your fees, your machines, I your fees go into all that.

Jason Corley: Okay, I'm not objecting, so I'm just asking. Yeah. Do you think that your fees should also cover the tournaments that you're gonna be in? I do too. Okay, so here's what I'm going for. One of the things...

Jacob Moreno: Yes. Yes. Because that's what it fees for. I mean, that's like me telling you, hey, you have to pay, you know, two grand, but that's only for the facility to maintain, you know, all this net. But I'm also going to tell you, you got to give me enough, huh?

Jason Corley: We're doing that. We're doing that with Brooks.

Jacob Moreno: But you also gotta give me an extra $1,500 for tournament now.

Jason Corley: That's exactly how this is, that's exactly, that's exactly how this is, that's exactly how his is operated. So his is operated where there was, so I'm going to get to this. One of the things, the reason I brought this up is, is one of the things that absolutely turns my, yeah.

Jacob Moreno: Well, before you do, what do you, what is your, what do you, per family fees?

Jason Corley: You mean for HUD?

Jacob Moreno: No, I'm just saying if you're on a national, what do you think? Defeat should be profaned.

Jason Corley: OK, so yeah, so this year is different and I don't know what it would be because of Cooperstown. So this year we were were fifty six hundred bucks, something like that. I don't know the exact number, but we were around that. OK, but that was also that that had added in the twenty two hundred dollars for Cooperstown. So I don't know what it would have been this year without Cooperstown. Does that make sense? ⁓ But, you know, I want to ⁓ want to say it's like thirty six hundred bucks, something like that.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ yeah. Okay. Yep.

Jason Corley: For the national, you know what mean? For, you know, for the national schedule and all of that. The reason why I'm getting to this is because of this. So one of the things that absolutely turns guts is my gears, I guess is what you could say is, is the when you're being when you're being pitched to come play for a team and you're it's going to cost this is how this is what it is. You know what mean? Fifteen hundred bucks, fourteen hundred bucks, sixteen hundred bucks. whatever it is. Okay. And you're like, okay. And that's the conversation to get you to come and play for a team. And now mind you, mind you, I'm not, and I'm not throwing, listen, before you get, before you think that I'm trying to throw you under the bus, I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus. I'm giving examples and I can only talk about our lives as an example, whether how we did it or not. I'm just giving an example of what this would look like for the average family. So you're told, Johnny comes over to play for the River, the River rats at 1500 bucks. Okay. And Johnny's like, Oh, that's not bad. You know what I mean? Like that's not, it's not bad. Okay. We can do that. Okay. All right. We can, we can do that. Um, but you know, at the same time, Mr. River rat, Mr. Coach of River rat, um, we live six hours away and we're not going to be able to come in.

Jacob Moreno: Mom and dad talk about it, they decide it's a great price.

Jason Corley: on Wednesdays and Thursdays or Tuesdays and Thursdays of the week to practice and use a facility. So you would think that the coach would be like, you're absolutely right. I'm going to let all the families know that we're going to take 500 off of yours. So it's only a thousand for you. OK, since you're not you're not taking up some of the heat in the building or you're not using some of the lights or you're not flushing the toilets around here. And we'll explain that to the families and the families should be OK with that because.

Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm.

Jason Corley: We really would like for you to be on this team. If we didn't want you to be on this team, we wouldn't have invited you to be on this team. And then two months down the road, you get hit with then uniform costs. And then two minutes down the road or not even let's just say two weeks down the road, then you get hit with, well, now we got to pay for tournaments. So now when you got to do this fundraiser, we need this fund like this is the that's the shit that drives me nuts. OK, if I'm coaching a team.

Jacob Moreno: Yup, we wanna ask you guys to play.

Jason Corley: Here's what it costs. Here's what the uniforms cost. Here's what it costs to keep the lights on in this building so that when you do come in, the lights are still on. And here's what it costs for the amount of tournaments we want to do. We want to do 10 tournaments and the average cost of these tournaments is about 500 to $900, depending on where we're playing. So it's going to cost you 2,700 bucks. You get this many months to pay it off. Okay. And we don't start your, we won't even start this until after the holidays. Okay, we're not going to start this in November. We're going to start this in sometime in January, probably January 15th or January 1st after Christmas so that nobody gets screwed out of getting little Johnny is brand new Lego set for Christmas. That is the kind of stuff that I appreciate and I respect. I, I, I really do appreciate coaches that structure it that way. Nothing hidden. This is what it is. The sticker shock. If you don't think you can do it, that's fine. I

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: come and see us again in two years when you think you can. Because there's a lot of other places out there that maybe won't charge that. I don't know. And there's places out there that don't have the overhead costs of having facilities. So that is one that's why I wanted to ask you like what, because for us, we do not like for HUD, we don't get charged the full amount because we're not coming to the facility in Michigan during the week. So we get that break. Brandon gave us a break with Brooks so that we because he knows you're not coming in. mean, so I mean,

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: am fortunate to have coaches around me that do understand that, but I know that there's a lot of parents who don't or that don't or too scared to bring it up. There's a lot.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. No, you're one of, yeah, you're right, man. I it's not fair. It's not fair that, you know, you have to pay the two grand when you are coming in. I mean, look at you. You're what? Five hours, four and a half hours away.

Jason Corley: We're four hours from Rochester, we're three hours from Ypsilanti.

Jacob Moreno: So even if you were coming in once a month, that's I mean, to me for you to pay the full, I'm just like, that's not like to me, that's not fair to you guys. No, I know ⁓ saying though, like that's not fair to you guys. I mean, you're not even using the facility.

Jason Corley: ⁓ We wouldn't do it. I mean, there's a lot of teams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, and that's that's one of the things that, you know, that that has always really kind of bothered me because I know that there's parents out there who are going through this or who have been through this. I know them personally, who they are. And they're so scared to bring the conversation up or to have the conversation because they feel like they're so lucky to be involved with the team that they're on, you know, and I'm just like, what are you talking about? Like, there's

Jacob Moreno: No, you're wasting money.

Jason Corley: There's 400 kids in this organization. They can afford to give you a break if you're not here because you live three hours away. And if they don't, then this is not the place for you because they're hiding shit from you.

Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. No, man, I mean... You're losing money ultimately. Like you're losing money on the training. mean, I don't know. To me, honestly, I feel like if you're that far, I'd give you a break for the fact that, go find a trainer. Use the money towards a trainer. I know you can't be in here or a facility, rent a cage or a partial field or something. But like you said, there are many, there's a lot of teams out here. If it's happening to you, then.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah.

Jacob Moreno: Good luck. I don't...

Jason Corley: And a lot of this comes down to these tournaments that are overcharging to play at their facilities and to play in their tournaments because all that shit's getting passed down to the coaches and the coaches have to pass that down to the parents. So it starts up there. It starts at top. I don't think that there's or I don't have any coaches in my life that are scraping, that are peeling money off the top to line their own pockets. literally trying to

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: to make it all work because in order to go play the tournaments that they want to play, put their teams in, it's cost this much money to go here. This much money to go there, which we'll get into because these organizations are absolutely raping people. Absolutely. It's ridiculous. Some of the organizations and some of these things that the amount of money that we're because we did the homework, we did the homework this week, man.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. We did do the homework. I mean, I think you and I might a little disagree a little bit on this.

Jason Corley: Okay, so say it. We're allowed to describe

Jacob Moreno: Like, yes, I get it. mean, yes, I mean, with the homework we did, the revenue, you know, they're making is crazy.

Jason Corley: Yeah, we'll get in with it. It's crazy. It's crazy. And these are public numbers.

Jacob Moreno: But I also look at it as it's the maintain of like facilities. I don't know, to me it's just like, it's still, no, yeah, but.

Jason Corley: I'm not arguing.

Jacob Moreno: What I would, man, have it in my head, I just can't say. The money, yes, I think the money is excessive. Like is the difference ⁓ of age to another?

Jason Corley: I think the only thing that differs from age group is the level of competition and the level of competition then like is the exposure. like, let's just say for instance, the age jump from 13 to 15, 15, there's less tournaments, but those tournaments are more important because there's more eyeballs at those tournaments. What does it cost to bring these coaches in? Are these coaches coming in on their own dime?

Jacob Moreno: Price wise.

Jason Corley: Or are these organizations, are they are they incentivizing college coaches to come in and watch these games? I don't know, but I

Jacob Moreno: Or are you, you know, you're paying for their hotels and flights? Yeah, I don't know. don't mean I don't know how that works.

Jason Corley: Right. I don't know. mean, Yeah, and like for like for national coaches, you know, I mean, like, let's just say, for example, Joe Baggot Donuts from Oklahoma has Oklahoma tornadoes and they have a travel team and he doesn't have a kid. Do you like that? just yeah, Joe Baggot Donuts from Oklahoma came from the archery world. I know that for a fact. I don't remember who. But let's just say he's the coach of the national team and he doesn't have a kid on the team. Well, what is his incentive?

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: to coach that team if he's a renowned coach other than the parents are gonna fork out and pay for his travel. You know what mean? Like, I mean, what is that like? Like, is that fair? Like, shouldn't that be part of the fee? Is that part of the fees? Which I guess, you know what I mean? Like,

Jacob Moreno: I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, if that's how you feel, then that should be included in the fee.

Jason Corley: And it should be, it should be the fee, which I'm OK with that. Like if you said to me, you know, if you broke down and said, OK, you know, a thousand dollars is what it's going to cost you to play on this national team. And two hundred dollars of this per family is paying for our coach to travel along with you because he doesn't have any other incentive to be on this team. He has no incentive to coach your team. But you guys want him because he's a national level coach and he's great. OK, OK, great. Yes. Two hundred bucks out of my fees go to making sure that our coach

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: can be at our events. I think that's how it should be. That's exactly how it should be. But I don't think, what is your take on a national level program or any kind of a level program? ⁓ the coach does have a kid on the team. Like you shouldn't have to pay for their travel. Their kid is on the team. Like I get it. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: No, no. Well, I mean, ultimately, guess, ultimately, the only gift you get there is you don't pay a team fee.

Jason Corley: Correct. I agree with that. Like if you're coaching kids should at least get to play for free if you're coaching all kids. ⁓ I should not be paying for anything else in your life. ⁓ you know me because you're already going to be there. what know I mean I shouldn't have to then pay for your lifestyle at these. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. No. for your hotel, either way, if you were the coach and weren't the coach, your kid was still going.

Jason Corley: Right. And none of that, I don't know. You know what mean? Like how many clubs and how many people go through never knowing what the reality is of that, the transparency of that. You know what I mean? Like this is, an absolute epidemic in this industry. So I did some homework and I think I sent it to you. For those of you that haven't seen, Jacob, like, you know, did you get the number of what I told you of what the annual revenue is for travel baseball in America?

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. I got it up. I am looking at it now.

Jason Corley: 54 dollars.

Jacob Moreno: Yes. Yes. Now, that you said that was travel baseball.

Jason Corley: Baseball, travel baseball in America, million or ⁓ billion ⁓ a big billion dollars of revenue for everything across the board. That's how big the industry is. I don't, I didn't compare it to what golf is and I didn't compare it to what, you know, AAU basketball is, but that is a ⁓ is a huge, huge number, huge number.

Jacob Moreno: Oh, that is a big number, And that right there alone tells you that it's not even... It's a corporation. It's a business.

Jason Corley: It's dude, it's just they're just they're feeding off of us. They're just like they're just feeding off of every parent that's out there. And unfortunately, have no ⁓ have no other option unless you just fall back to rec and then all of the development goes out the window. Because let's say you get 100 recreational teams in the state. Let's just say I'm just giving a number. Let's say you get 100 of them to maybe two of that 100.

Jacob Moreno: Uh-huh.

Jason Corley: have, we're lucky enough to have the right coach in that system that is actually teaching and developing kids, you might get two. Everybody else is just a daddy ball dad and wreck his volunteer bodies. listen, a lot of travel ball is just volunteers until you get to that certain level.

Jacob Moreno: Yep. Yeah, I was just gonna say, mean, Wreck is volunteer. Yeah, until you get to the certain, you know, certain levels or what organization. Yeah.

Jason Corley: I mean, you were, you were, mean, had you not, I mean, we wouldn't have had the access to you and coaches Josh, you know what mean? So, um, because I mean, coaches can say that they can do it by themselves, but they can't, I mean, they can't even, they can't even run practice by themselves. So, um, I mean, that's just ego talking whenever they say that, but, uh, um, yeah. So I did, where's it at here? So, um,

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. No, it's tough. Yeah.

Jason Corley: Uh, yeah, that 54. So $54 billion. So I, I posted today before we got on here, let me see if anybody else has called. Um, I posted today about the 501 C3 because that was very eye opening when Jay brought that up. Okay. Um, because I'm going to give you my perspective on it. Then you can give me your perspective on it. Growing up a 501 C3 meant one thing. Church. Okay. That's what a 501C, I grew up around, I grew up in the church. So a 501C3 was a church, a youth group. it is today still to this day, my parents, my parents are a ⁓ 501C3 because they are full-time missionaries. My brother is a full-time missionary. So they have a ⁓ 501C3 through their mission organization. Okay. I do not think of travel baseball as a 501C3.

Jacob Moreno: You seen that was too?

Jason Corley: Now, not saying it's I'm just telling you that my perspective when we're having this conversation is coming from that of a kid who grew up behind a pulpit on a stage in a church at a Christian school who understood or thought he understood what a 501 C3 really meant. So this thing that I posted today got I mean, this thing has exploded ever since Jay talked about it, brought it up. Because did you did you have a chance to look up our our the DK Nationals? Clearly they're not a 501c3 if he brought that up.

Jacob Moreno: I don't think they are. No, I, you know, from what I read out of it, no, they were.

Jason Corley: Okay. Yeah. Okay. And we were doing some homework to look and see what clubs were and what clubs weren't. majority are. The majority are using the ⁓ 501c3, you know, ⁓ exemption allocation the United States government gives them. Okay. ⁓ And did some, I did some homework here and I want to, I just want to read to you what the, what the law says and you, ⁓ you just me some feedback on this, but

Jacob Moreno: Mm. ⁓

Jason Corley: ⁓ The IRS generally approves youth sports organizations under one of three rationales. rationales. All right. Number one, is it an educational purpose? The team is viewed as a school, which makes sense, So local school of sorts and teaches discipline, teamwork and physical skills. Charitable purpose. The organization is seen as combating juvenile...

Jacob Moreno: Yes.

Jason Corley: delinquency by providing structured positive environment for youth amateur sports law under section 501 or J I don't know it's really small writing organizations can qualify if they foster national or international amateur sports competitions which allows them to provide facilities and equipment without losing their status international national amateur sports competitions That literally just opens the door to all that whole world.

Jacob Moreno: Every day. Yep. I was going to say, because growing up to me, you know, once I really learned what a 503, 501 3C, you know, that was a lot of the community centers here used them and played sports through them. So I thought it was a sports day.

Jason Corley: What a 501 C3? no, I always knew it as a church thing. I always knew that your church was a nonprofit and a 501 C3 was ⁓ when I think of 905, one C3, I immediately, I don't even think of those letters. I just think of nonprofit. So you're a nonprofit. Okay. You're a homeless shelter. You're, you don't mean any ⁓ church. ⁓ Yeah. summer ⁓ You don't mean stuff that receives donations. you don't mean so

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. a church, ⁓ a community center. Yeah.

Jason Corley: I asked the question and I want to ask you. asked, ⁓ on a minute, because I'm going to ask this. I a trusted source. Okay. And I said, ⁓ so it's a 501 C3 and I'm playing for him, okay. Because when I'm a church, Jacob, when I'm a church and we give an offering, I get ⁓ a ⁓ Right. then I get a break on that donation.

Jacob Moreno: So, okay, let me. You get a statement. Yeah.

Jason Corley: If my kids playing for you and you're a charitable donation, you're a charitable entity, do I not get to write off my dues? Answer is no. Answer is no because they're providing me with a service. Well, what do you think preaching to me is doing?

Jacob Moreno: You should. Hahaha!

Jason Corley: Am I right or am I wrong? can't do communion by myself. The whole point of communion is to be communionized with your community and church. So then I asked, I was getting ready to ask, but then we started the podcast so I didn't get to finish my text message and ask him. So then does the coach get to write us off? So here's the thing.

Jacob Moreno: Yo, no, you're right on that. You're right on that, Ed. Yeah. Probably because he is providing a service.

Jason Corley: Okay, not only is he providing a service, but let's just say he can't, okay? I think this is where we get into the world of the big travel organizations and the big national teams being able to quote unquote, buy kids. Because here's what I think. I don't think that the coaches in the clubs can write every, they can't write the players off unless the players are a sponsored scholarship athlete. So then therefore they have all these 72 teams of all these age brackets

Jacob Moreno: but the organization can. Yup.

Jason Corley: that are paying the fees to then sponsor those 12 studs and all 12 of them are write-offs because those are scholarship athletes. I think I figured this out. I could be, there's a high likelihood that I'm wrong. There's a high likelihood that I'm wrong. But I think I figured out.

Jacob Moreno: Yup. Even if you were right, even if you were right, they're gonna tell you you're wrong.

Jason Corley: here's the thing. So I did get asked, well, why don't you just call them and ask them? Do you think they're going to tell me the side of this? Everybody's going to tell me what it like from their rose colored glasses. Nobody's going to tell the truth of it. So the only one that the only one ⁓ you can't call the IRS and get because they're going to tell you what it looks like from their standpoint. So we just have to take the bullshit from both sides and find it in the middle. ⁓ Yeah.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah, from their point of view, yeah. mash it and figure out pick and choose what.

Jason Corley: Yeah, because if you ask a club that's doing it, of course they're going to tell you that it's all on the up and up. And if you ask the IRS, they're going to tell you, no, they should all go to, they should all, they should be shut down tomorrow. So, yeah. So I just, this 501 C three thing, man, it just really, I am not sure. I'm not sure how I feel on it because I don't know if I'm ⁓ it. Like, and I mean that legitimately, I don't know if I'm against it. I don't know if I'm for it. Like you every, I guess. You have every right to do it, if you're not breaking the law.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you too. I'm just, I mean, to me it's if you're, if you're going to do it and you're providing, I guess a great service, then go ahead. But if you're providing the shitty service, then might want to rethink that.

Jason Corley: might want to reevaluate your congregation.

Jacob Moreno: Exactly. I are you going to be a 501C3 and provide shitty service? I mean, ultimately you're going to end up closing down because nobody's going to come. Or people are going to talk.

Jason Corley: you Well, I just, I don't, guess, guess it comes back to also like. Nope. Okay. Jacob, we wouldn't do this podcast if we didn't think that there was a possibility that we could, you know, provide and make money doing it. Okay. We wouldn't sell the advertising space if we didn't. I wouldn't sell the advertising space for free. don't, I'm not, you and I, ⁓ We're, everybody is in the business to be in business. Okay. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: We're not in the business of free. To make money, yeah.

Jason Corley: So are you telling me then that every 501c3 baseball program is not out to profit? Then why are you in it? Like what do you like? Do you know what I mean? Like I'm struggling here, man. I'm struggling. I'm struggling because I get the I understand that you're you're following the letter of the law and you're following the rules and you're doing this and it's all thought of. I'm not nobody's saying it's not legal. I'm not saying that because it's illegal.

Jacob Moreno: You know there are. No, yeah, we're not saying it's legal, I mean, it's...

Jason Corley: I'm asking you if it's ethically right! Like the ethics behind it is what I care about.

Jacob Moreno: mean, when you're out to make money. Are you really ethically, to make money at all costs? Are you really there? Does that come to the back of your mind? Or are you just tunnel visioned in just for one thing and one thing only?

Jason Corley: Yeah, don't know. mean, it's... ⁓

Jacob Moreno: But remember, even if they're a 501C3, they don't get the Tax money back.

Jason Corley: No, no, they don't get all the benefits of it. just, but they get enough of them clearly that everybody's doing it like Jason. Like, you know, I mean, if, if, if Joe Bagadones from Oklahoma is a billionaire and he's getting taxed on all this money sitting in his, in his bank account, and instead he can go start a 501 C3 and save some of his money and it's legal. Of course he's going to do it. Of course he's going to do it.

Jacob Moreno: that everybody is, yeah.

Jason Corley: You know what mean? If you've got a, if you've got a show in the Discovery Channel and you're making millions and millions of dollars through your business and you're sick and tired of the government, you know, taxing your, which that's another whole podcast for another whole day of being taxed on it. And all of a sudden somebody says, well, why don't you just come, you know, start a baseball, sponsor our team and it will, you know, it can be a 501 C3. know, I always thought the reason that you would do a 501 C3 on a baseball team.

Jacob Moreno: sponsor our team.

Jason Corley: Okay. I always thought this was that you, you wanted to create financial freedom for the families. So the only reason that I ever thought, because I know of two, I know of two, okay. I know of two programs personally that are five ⁓ one C three travel baseball programs. of those, their foundation is in faith. Like ⁓ they are not out. Okay. They are not out. And one of them is on a poster every time we're in a cage. Okay.

Jacob Moreno: Yes. Okay.

Jason Corley: So neither one of them are out for the logo on their hats. ⁓ are out to, ⁓ do I say this? I hope everybody understands me when I say this, okay? They are out to use baseball to change young people's okay? Baseball is just the tool that they're using to bring kids closer to Christ. That's it. So that's...

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ they're using it as a stepping stone to them.

Jason Corley: And they're just using baseball as the tool to complete the job of spreading the gospel. That is what they're doing. Okay. And I'm telling you, I know this for a fact. Okay. that I am okay with what I am not okay with is using a five ⁓ one C three and taxing all these families down here to then let these families go for free. Okay. And when I say that

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, man, but at that point, at that point, the name of the game.

Jason Corley: It is the name of the game. I'm not going to say, like, I'm not going to say that, that it doesn't been because let's just say, for instance, okay, let's just say, for instance, you have the, you have the Joe bag of dough. Do we have, I need to come up with a new name. Okay. You have the Joe bag of donuts, tornadoes out of Oklahoma. Okay. And they've got a national team and let's say that 10 of that there's 10 kids on that national team. All right. And you've got, you've got, let's just say 400 kids in their regional development program.

Jacob Moreno: The Tornadoes.

Jason Corley: that are all paying full dues, blah, blah, blah, blah. These 10 are the face of the organization. They're the one. OK, I don't think they should, especially if maybe, let's say, what, four five of those kids on their team would never be able to be there if if if if something financially wasn't provided for them. Like there's a listen, I can tell you for a fact, there's kids out there that are ⁓ teams, ⁓

Jacob Moreno: So why should they have to pay?

Jason Corley: would not be able to afford it if they weren't helped. some of this thing, and if you have to, if the only way to be able to pull that off is through a 501 C3, then have at it. I just, it's just new to me. I just didn't know. Does that make sense?

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I know. And you were just saying like, you you have all these, tax and all these other families for these 10, 12 kids to play. Like, well, they're the face of the organization. They're the ones traveling the country. 100 % agree that they shouldn't have to pay.

Jason Corley: Yeah.

Jacob Moreno: That's what you have all these other families for.

Jason Corley: And I think that that should put, guess here's the thing though. This comes back to what our podcast and what the second episode we ever did where we brought this up where we said, if you just tell families that.

Jacob Moreno: Yes, if you were out front, I more families would be accepting.

Jason Corley: And I think you would also get more support in the long run of being like, this is what we do. Like we're hoping, we're hoping that our little eight year old someday gets to go play for that national team. And you know what mean? And he gets all those benefits.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah! And I mean, tax them an extra $600. ⁓

Jason Corley: Yeah, it's just, yes, like.

Jacob Moreno: You know what I mean? I mean, if you got 400 families and extra $100, $200, that's fine. But I mean, it's excessive when you, five, $600, $700, even $1,000 because you're taking care of the older kid, you know, the national team. They're rolling up in, you know, different vehicles or staying at, you know, the high end hotels like.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I, yeah, I mean, I agree with you and I, you know, it's just, it's one of those things where folks we're not condemning one side or the other in any way, shape or form. We're literally just trying to figure this out for ourselves because up until this year and having certain conversations, we didn't know, I didn't know it was as prevalent as it was. I have always been under the assumption at 15 years old that a 501 C3 was a nonprofit charitable organization. I had no clue. No clue. And my son has been playing national travel league ball for four years. For four years. I've been at the biggest tournaments in the country and I had no clue that you could run a baseball team with a 501 C3 nonprofit until last year. And then to find out that it's as popular as it is until now. Like I knew that there were a few of them out there doing it, but I didn't know that it was at the level that it is where what the over well over the majority are 501 C3. At least that's what the numbers come back.

Jacob Moreno: So you me a couple emails and it says, why is it a trend now? It says the shift towards ⁓ 501c3 is largely driven the rising cost of youth sports as travel ball becomes a multi-billion dollar industry. Teams need to one, attract corporate sponsors.

Jason Corley: research. Yes, yes, read that.

Jacob Moreno: who demand a tax receipt. Two, apply for city-owned field permits, which often give the priority or discounts to nonprofits. And then three, protect the coach's payments from personal liabilities. The nonprofit acts like a shield.

Jason Corley: Yeah. Okay. So go back to number one. Okay. Attract corporate sponsors who demand a tax receipt. Okay. Here's what I don't understand. Explain this to me like I'm sick. Somebody out there. Okay. if you have a business, okay. ⁓ And own, let's say you own a car detailing business off to the side ⁓ and want to sponsor my daughter's, curling, ⁓ curling team. We're curling. Okay. It's winter curling team ⁓ and

Jacob Moreno: volleyball. Okay.

Jason Corley: You want to give I need a sponsor to put a banner out on wall. OK. The wall whatever it is in center field and that is going to cost five hundred dollars. Can you or can you not write that off as advertising expense. Why do you need a 501 C3.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I mean, I should be able to write it off as a, yeah, I would think as a business ⁓ I should be able to write that off. Yeah.

Jason Corley: ⁓ Clearly I'm wrong That's advertising expense. That's an advertising. Isn't it not? So I'm clearly I'm wrong. So somebody can comment and let us know why I'm wrong, because maybe you can't write that off. Maybe that is not maybe that has to all be taxed. I don't know. But I have always thought that this is why. Well, this is also why I'm not in the finance world, folks. I'm in the baseball. I'm in the media. always assumed that if you sponsor a team, you get to write that off as advertising. for advertising, okay? So that becomes a write-off. Maybe there's a cap to that. I don't know. Maybe there's not.

Jacob Moreno: Yes. I wonder if that's why in Little League, like me growing up playing Little League baseball when I played rec, I played for McDonald's.

Jason Corley: Right? So did I. Well, I was supposed to, but I wasn't.

Jacob Moreno: Well, I played for McDonald's. You know, there was teams that were, you know, local gas stations, local gas stations and, you know, grocery, mom and pop grocery stores. So that's advertising, ain't it?

Jason Corley: Yeah, but you also were playing you also were playing for at that time you were playing for you said rec, right? Okay, so that was a community which was a nonprofit

Jacob Moreno: Yes. Okay. Yeah, I get that. So goes into the attract corporate sponsors who demand the tax receipt then.

Jason Corley: Tell me. I know, I'm not denying it, yes of course.

Jacob Moreno: No, no, no, but that's what I'm asking. That's what that is, right? Yeah. They attracted a big corporate sponsor. They wanted a tax receipt. Now they get to write it off.

Jason Corley: Yes. Yes. Like when you go to into the school gymnasium for basketball and you see the new scoreboard or the football stadium and you see all those sponsors around there. All those sponsors got to write all of that off because the school is a nonprofit. The school is a charity. You know what mean? Is a 501 C3 because it's a public school. May not be for private. Well, for private, they're a Catholic school. So yeah, there again, there's the 501 C3 nonprofit because it's a faith based organization, which is the school.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yep.

Jason Corley: So all of those things. But what I'm saying, though, is, is outtake that outside. I thought that if I was just I thought if I was just the River Rats and I started a baseball team and got a sponsor that the local car wash could write that off. Why would you not want to sponsor us? Because you get that right that office and advertise. So that's what I don't know. I'm clear. I don't I must not. Yeah, I must not be right. It was first as far as that that advertising goes.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. Yeah. I'm clueless, I'm as clueless as you are.

Jason Corley: ⁓ Hey, listen, let's, let's play a couple of these voicemails real quick because they have, they have some comments here. ⁓ folks, ⁓ Jacob, first of all, do you want to tell everybody about our I know you don't. is the best part of the show folks. This is best part of the show. This is my favorite. Yeah. I am. I have decided I've decided brother that, I'm no longer plugging.

Jacob Moreno: I didn't even have it pulled up, man. Hold on, hold on guys. I know there's a certain...

Jason Corley: plugging yours in. Okay. The only time I'm ever going to plug yours in is if you're not present for the conversation. But from now on, I want one of the highlights to be Jacob's live read. Mine are going to be polished and minor going to be edited. And mine are going to be they're going to be they're going to be they're going to sound like the came off of a computer. Yours.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ hold on. You're a dickhead because you just put me right on the spot. I do have the emails open but I'm like, he's been plugging them in that's what we're going to continue doing.

Jason Corley: ⁓ So here we go. is Jacob's live read.

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Jason Corley: Yep. And Jacob will be at the trade show all weekend long folks. ⁓ Right? Dude, just, I was having a conversation with somebody today and they were just like, don't, don't get rid of Jacob's live reads. Cause that's what we tune in. We don't know when they don't know when they're coming. They don't know how bad you're going to butcher them. They don't know anything. And they're all.

Jacob Moreno: As you can see. Hey, I really hope you liked that live read. Yeah because they think I'm a f- they got this They think I'm at a reading level of a kindergartener, that's why. ⁓

Jason Corley: Everybody's hanging on every word. Nobody, listen, you single-handedly are selling more Green River Whiskey than any. All right, man, let's play a couple of these voicemails and let's get your take on them here. And let's see here.

Jacob Moreno: You sure it's not Grand River Whiskey?

Jason Corley: Turn this up. this is Sean with the Pickup Portal. There is no way teams should be allowed to use the 501C3 tax certificate. They are a for-profit entity. I get it from a fundraising perspective. You don't want to have to account for every single dollar that comes in, but man, you're there to make money. ⁓ Do away the 501C3 for travel ball guys. That's okay. Thanks, Sean. Thanks for the call. Yeah.

Jacob Moreno: Thank you, Sean.

Jason Corley: I'll read it back to you. There's no way teams should be allowed to use the 501c3 tax exempt certificate. They are a for-profit entity. Now, that seems like a strong statement because know, ⁓ I just said earlier, I know of two programs that are not for- ⁓

Jacob Moreno: I don't think everybody's in to make money. Yeah, I don't think every, I don't think.

Jason Corley: I can't say that about the ones that I'm vouching and I'm just saying this folks. I'm vouching. Yeah, I know. right. Okay. Go ahead.

Jacob Moreno: No, I'm but what I'm saying What I'm saying is, I don't think everybody's there to make money. I it's a loophole that people have found.

Jason Corley: I don't either. A legal one? don't think people are breaking the law. Yeah. Yeah. don't believe that people are breaking the law. just think that they're advantage of the law.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, illegal loophole and they are executing. No, not one bit. Yeah, I'm not saying that. It's a legal rule that they are using. I mean, and it's hard to say, should they be allowed or shouldn't they be allowed? I guess if you got good intentions, then use it. But even if you got bad intentions, you're still gonna use it.

Jason Corley: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we both know programs that are not in it to make money. Now, do those programs suffer because they don't have the resources of the clubs that are in it to make money and to make money? 100%. 100%. Like, for example, the two clubs here in my town, okay, they're clearly not in it to make money. They're in it to change young people's lives.

Jacob Moreno: Yes. I'm sure they do.

Jason Corley: which shows because they don't have the facilities that the big clubs in the country do. There's a perfect example of it. You know what mean? But I also know too that not only are they in it to make, not only are these two organizations, and I can only speak for these two, I cannot speak for anybody else, but the two that I know of, there's zero financial burden on each family.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: zero, zero financial burden on any of the kids that play for that for that program.

Jacob Moreno: So it's used the right way. So it was being used the right way.

Jason Corley: It's a thousand percent being used the right way. It's it. The only problem is that they run into the hurdles end of it not being a profitable organization. So therefore they don't have the resources in order to ⁓ do all these things and bring kids in and, ⁓ know, fluff up the rosters. They got to work with what they have. You know what mean? So, I mean, it does, ⁓ it makes you it makes you respect what they do ⁓ much. It makes.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yep.

Jason Corley: It makes me want to go to bat and promote, you know, like they have a little like, let's just say it. Okay. So the, the, the cage that we go to all the time, it's down the road. Okay. Um, that is ran by a gentleman who helps. He's doesn't run the organization, but he is a coach in the organization of press on, okay. Press on press on towards the goal. It's a scripture in the Bible. This has been around mostly at the older age, 16 you.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: 15U, 14U, and now it's trickled down into the younger ages. They only have like two or three teams in the whole organization. Okay? This is not big. Little. Little, little thing. And this started from a guy by the name of Rosh Yoder, who, like myself, was demonized by a community after, you know, after the lives that we used to live. Okay? Demonized. And he was hellbound and determined to not let that define who he was.

Jacob Moreno: Okay.

Jason Corley: He is an unbelievable baseball player, unbelievable baseball coach, has been highly involved with Athletes in Action, I believe. Have you ever heard of them, Athletes in Action? Okay, Athletes in Action was basically a... Basically, they were the bananas before the bananas were the bananas. Faith-based organization, professional baseball that played amateur level around the country. Athletes in Action was... It's just faith-based. mean, everything was about...

Jacob Moreno: Okay.

Jason Corley: Bible studies and stuff like this before games, after games, all that stuff. They're basically the ones that started kids kneeling before games was athletes and athletes. They've been around since I a kid in school. So he involved with that program and was mentored by those kinds of people. So he is the one that started press on him and his dad, I believe, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ross and his dad started press on with that. This came just this mission of him.

Jacob Moreno: Hmm

Jason Corley: and the struggle that he went through and the battles and the demons that he dealt with in his life of not letting, not wanting kids to make those same wrong decisions. That's how it was started. This wasn't started because he wanted to win national championships. It was started because he was trying to keep kids. He was trying to use baseball as a reason not to hit the streets. Does that make sense? Okay.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, yeah, just like you said, he was open. It was opening the door to.

Jason Corley: 100 % 100 % and since they do it the right way me and my boys try to promote the cage as much as possible because one of the one of the sons of that is in high school and this is his little side hustle to maybe raise some tuition money or maybe get some you know I mean that's their thing now it's not owned by press on it's just a there's just a poster in the building the building is not owned by press on they're not it's not a nonprofit organization it's just that that's where press on goes to work. Now I will tell you this too. This is how amazing that they are, Jacob. It's open 24 hours a day, seven days a week to whoever needs it. It's 10 bucks. If you want to donate, you can donate to the 15 year old kid that runs the Venmo. If you don't, if you don't have the money and you just need to go in and work with your kid, it's free. It's free. That's sure. That's that's the community that we live in. Okay.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ that should be a building that's promoted at the top.

Jason Corley: Right. And we try to and it, that's why you see us there so much. Okay. Because they don't, and it's not just the kids here. That's if you want to come in from Toledo and you need a place to go in and spend some time with your son and work on something, have at it. If there's nobody in there, have at it. Here's the code. There's no, there's no signs that say if you don't belong here, you don't belong here. If you don't, you know I mean? None of that happens. None of it. So that's what I'm saying. Like there's those types of, there's those types of organizations.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: small, independent, the right way that I that that's what this was supposed to be for. ⁓ Not for megaginets of the world. That's all. That's all I'm saying.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, it's, mean, them guys need to spend their money too and not get a tax.

Jason Corley: Yeah, I mean, but I mean, I don't know what you mean. And I don't know what they're I mean, they're spending it on uniforms or spending it on the track. You know what mean? Yes.

Jacob Moreno: on the travel. mean, I don't know if they get them equipment or what, but.

Jason Corley: ⁓ I mean, I'm sure that their tax benefits come in, you know, paying the entry fees to these tournaments, paying for the uniforms, paying for the equipment, renting the space to go practice. So I'm assuming that that's where their tax, you know what mean? That their tax breaks are coming in. And I don't want to speak really anymore on that because the other one, the other newer one is it pivoted off of press on.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: ⁓ and its own new entity. And I don't know how that one structured and I don't want to speak for it because I, I, down the road and I don't want to say something wrong and then think that I was trying to speak in facts when I don't have the facts. ⁓ I think it's set up really close. I know that faith ⁓ faith is the basis of it. I just don't know how it's ⁓ where it came from. You know what mean? Like I know Ross's story because I know Ross, so I know

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, without knowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: I know why Ross started this. I don't know a lot of the intricacies of the other one. And I want, and I want to respect that because I don't know. So let's play this other one. This other voicemail, you're never going to guess who it's from.

Jacob Moreno: of the other one. Yeah. I did.

Jason Corley: Nope. Hey boys, this is Matt from Omaha. I saw your post about the 501C3 and using it for travel organization. I'm not opposed to it. I mean, it's a lot better thing for to be, you know, there's a lot worse thing for kids to be doing than playing baseball. But I think there needs to be some limitations. Like if the donations are going toward tournament fees, uniforms, equipment, you know, that kind of thing. I'm perfectly cool with that. I think it's a great use of resources to kind of support the boys and the girls. he wasn't done matter and softball But it's like bringing kids in from the Dominican or you know paying their travel costs per diem Yeah, I don't I'm not for that. You know, I think if you want to do that, you better be paying that out of your own pocket Not using it as a tax deduction But I think if you're using it for like said the legit thing to your organization fees tournament fees Uniforms equipment all for it. Hey, have a good one boys Matt from Omaha. Thank you buddy for the call ⁓

Jacob Moreno: Thank you, Matt.

Jason Corley: So Matt is saying, Matt is basically saying that he is kind of like on the of Jay when Jay was talking about how, or ⁓ don't know. I shouldn't have ⁓ that that was wrong. What I was saying earlier where, you know, you shouldn't be using that to ⁓ pay other families. but my thing is, is what if those other families would not be able to participate if it wasn't for the per diem?

Jacob Moreno: Like I said, a per diem. So now they're on scholarship.

Jason Corley: Right. I mean, but that's I'm assuming that's a benefit of the 501 C3. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, we both have been there. We both have been there. And, you know, for keeping it for keeping it a buck, we've both been there. We've both, you know, seen we've both seen it. We both lived it. We know both sides of it. You know, I just know that I don't think that you can penalize a club or family like.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Jason Corley: You know, the kids gotta be worth it, bro. The kid and the family.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah You ain't lying, man.

Jason Corley: can't be sponsoring kids that don't give a shit. You can't be sponsoring.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, you gotta have, you gotta sponsor the kids that love the game and wanna be there and are actually doing the work to make your team a better team. Cause if you're just giving it to, you're just giving it to Michael because Michael's on the team but would rather be at home playing PlayStation, like, ⁓ that's a waste there. You know what I mean?

Jason Corley: Right, because like we've said. Yeah. Yeah, no. And it's one of those, ⁓ it's one of those things where, you know, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, these national and I know that I started in there because I was trying to, I was trying to wrap my head around how to explain this. The national teams are the faces of these organizations on a national So the

Jacob Moreno: They're the poster teams.

Jason Corley: These national teams are the ones that are being posted by PG, by U-triple S-A, by USA. Those are the teams, those are the kids on those teams that are representing the brand. Okay? And that brand has got to be an attractive brand in order to get more families to come in and feed the mouse. Okay? So therefore, you have like those teams that are doing that, they've got to be competitive level teams. They've got to be. They got to be competitive level teams.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. So I mean, so saying that, in other words, they have to go get the top two, three.

Jason Corley: I don't think you can fault it. I don't think you can fault it is what I'm trying to say.

Jacob Moreno: No, no, I don't think you can either. I mean, because like I said earlier, these guys are putting positions that they have to win.

Jason Corley: They have to win to keep the, keep the wheel rolling because

Jacob Moreno: Yep. So I mean, now you go out and you have to get, you know, the top third baseman, shortstop second baseman, if not the top, you know, number two second base or first baseman, just like stuff like that. So in order. guess what I'm gonna say is, it's okay. Do it. It's okay, so do it. ⁓

Jason Corley: Hey. It's what? Well, yeah, I mean, let's just let's give a perfect example. Last year we were watching shoot. were watching on PGTV. ⁓ were watching something and the was it the 13 or 14 you bandito's team? Okay. The bandito's like 13 you at the time. So now they're 14 you this year. Okay. This bandito's team is bro. don't even know. Like did they lose? Yeah. Like they're all future major league professional baseball.

Jacob Moreno: 13. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the ones that were like 136 and older.

Jason Corley: Yeah, okay. So here's the thing though, is that before this, I've I had heard of the Bandidos thought they were a biker gang turns out their baseball team. Okay. if they hadn't put that team together, which I guarantee you, I shouldn't guarantee you, I would assume, Jacob, that not everybody on that team is paying full cost to be on that team. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: No, but here we go again because that's a top team in the organization. So you're going to feed it with the other teams, your regionals, your developmental teams. And because look what it did.

Jason Corley: and why it... right, it made me google them.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, and I mean, I've known about the Banditos for years now, it made that, you know, the noise was probably this big before and then it got to this big with that team and now it's still here.

Jason Corley: Right. Right. And now look what's happening with the Wildcatters. Same thing with the Wildcatters. Which shout out to Wildcatters, they finally got over the hot It's a big tournament. Taz had that monster. Did, was there, was there an air in right field on that hit? I couldn't tell.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, congrats to them winning that tournament. It's a big tournament for them to win. It went under, I think it went under the glove at center field.

Jason Corley: Yeah. And I, I'm not going to, I'm not going to mention the young man's name because it's not fair to him because that kid is an incredible, incredible baseball for, for SBA. But the Wildcatters finally got over that hump of the SBA has been kind of like their nemesis for the last couple of years. And they finally got over it and shot out the Taz. Congratulations Taz on getting that base hit and, ⁓ you know, winning that game. But anyways,

Jacob Moreno: Yes. Yep. Yeah.

Jason Corley: It's what we're, what I'm saying though is, is had the banditos not built that team and not put themselves positioned themselves with that team of being as successful as they are. They never would have been invited to that showcase that perfect game was putting on and been put on TV, which shined a light on the entire organization. Now, I don't know if the banditos are a five, ⁓ one C three. I have no idea. Didn't look into it. Don't really care. Cause I'm over it now. cause there's so many that are, and so many that aren't what I'm seeing.

Jacob Moreno: Yep. I'll tell you what, the diamond, we talked about the diamond kings, they're not. Uh-uh. Yeah, I looked it up, I haven't pulled out.

Jason Corley: They're not. Hey, so you done looked that up, Jamie. Well, I would have had a hard time thinking that they were after the conversation that Jay had because he was pretty much like, yeah, you can come if you want, but we don't have any money for you.

Jacob Moreno: You're paying it on your own. But no, you're right on that. If it wasn't for that team, I don't think you would have gave the spotlight to that organization. mean, maybe they did have that people knew, but I think they put that organization in the microscope and made it bigger.

Jason Corley: But I I wasn't aware of how successful they were until that event. So had they not put that together and been in that event, like I had heard of them, but I didn't.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ okay. We had been watching them for two years on YouTube.

Jason Corley: Yeah, you guys. Yeah. But see, that's not what I do. I don't watch baseball on YouTube like that. Like you guys do. You know what mean? So.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I mean, that's our thing. We watch. We brand-lead, type in.

Jason Corley: I do not know. I watch I watch podcasts on YouTube a lot. But no, I'm just what I'm saying, though, is is that, you know, that's how that's why I think some of these these clubs are structured in the way they are, because had they not been in that situation, I wouldn't have looked them up to see what they're all about, because there's to say that I wouldn't want my kid to be in that organization. Who's to say that I wouldn't want my kid to be involved with the Houston Wildcats as successful as they've gotten all of sudden?

Jacob Moreno: Me too. too.

Jason Corley: I mean, we've all been...

Jacob Moreno: So question, so question, they put you on PGTV like that, you get more eyes now, does that attract more sponsors?

Jason Corley: I think it's on the coach, which brings me to my last point before we off on this. And that is that why are some teams, why do not see more sponsors in this than what we do? Okay. ⁓ I'm Like we know specific coaches that go out and actively seek sponsors to help take financial burdens off of families. Okay. And then we have...

Jacob Moreno: because some coaches, their pride is too big.

Jason Corley: OK, or you have owners that don't need it because like the Wildcatters, there's no sponsor with the Wildcatters. Why is it that the Wildcatters are not sponsored or they don't list their sponsors? OK, but then you go to teams like SBA where you have the SBA national bolts. OK, with sponsored by Bruce Bolt, the Batting Club. So don't forget that kids and parents, every time you go by your kids, a pair of Bruce Bolts, you're helping fund the team that just whooped your ass.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: Yeah, think about it think about it before you buy it, okay Yeah, think about those Easton dubs and all that stuff and who the Easton is giving those free bats to to go hit home runs off of your kid off the mound so It's the truth. So but why why don't you see more that is it because the ownership behind the scenes doesn't need the sponsorship dollars I don't I'm asking

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. mean, I guess it just depends on the owner. Is the owner successful? ⁓

Jason Corley: you would well i mean obviously gold the golden prospects he doesn't need sponsorship dollars so he doesn't wanna you know i he wouldn't want another name on the jersey ⁓

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, and that might be it as well too though. teams are already set with names. They don't want to change names. They don't want to put another logo on a jersey or on a, I cause nobody, I mean, very rarely do you see banners anymore.

Jason Corley: You don't see banners anymore. the thing, the reason why I'm bringing this up is because the cost. So when we did our homework, the cost has went up 47 % since 2019. Folks, hear what I just said. The cost of travel sports in America have went up 47 % in seven years. That's crazy. That's for the cost of gas. That's the cost of maintenance on the vehicles.

Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm.

Jason Corley: That's the cost of hotels and hospitality. It's the cost of tournaments and maintenance and fields and all this stuff. But it's went up 47 % since 2019. Okay. So with that being said, not a lot of careers and salaries have went up 47%. Oh, this is rising while this is just creeping. This is skyrocketing and the, and the income, the average income is just, it's going up a little here and there for the average Santa families. There's a lot of families out there that don't have any

Jacob Moreno: 40%, yeah.

Jason Corley: any financial worries and all that stuff. Kudos to them. you made it. That's awesome. But the majority of families, that's not the case. So my question is this, and that is ⁓ something that I want to end on is I would like to encourage more coaches to get more involved with sponsorship dollars to help relieve some of this stuff. I'm not talking about selling March Madness squares either. OK, that's another whole thing. Bro.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: And swear to God, we're on the preposess of March Madness Squares, okay? Gambling for grandma is what it is. I've always called it gambling for grandma, which is another funny thing because I always had a problem with 501c3 or nonprofit organizations selling Squares, okay? So instance, as ⁓ much as I've given you, I think it's a bad look if you're gambling to raise money for a faith-based organization because the Squares,

Jacob Moreno: They go hand in hand.

Jason Corley: The squares are gambling. Just say like, think, think about it. ⁓ that's the clip of the day. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yes. Yeah. But there are so many creative avenues and Jacob, it pisses me off, man, because I've brought ⁓ things. You know this.

Jacob Moreno: They go hand in hand. Every time you gamble, you pray to Jesus that you're going to win some money. Ugh, I mean. I know.

Jason Corley: You know this for a fact. I've brought so many ideas to the team. I've been like, hey, listen, here's a here's a here's a crazy. Here's a crazy stat. OK, every game that you are at, you have two professional photographers at every one of your games. Bingo and the mom. OK, we're going to take these pictures with or without you, whether it's of all the team or whether it's just of our kid and his best friends that are on the team. We're going to take pictures. Why are you not selling advertising on these pictures that are hitting Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and all these other places where all these parents share these pictures? Why are you not wanting to sell advertising of watermarks, which I finally did on my own. So HUD had his own personal sponsor of Arizona Archery Enterprises and Elevation Broadheads two years. And would us out financially for ⁓ for HUD, specifically for HUD. So every picture that we posted of Hudson had their logo on it, which the reason why we did that was because there might, there's, all in the industry that we're in of tribal baseball, there's a lot of dads and there a lot of them dads hunt. There's a lot dads that like to go kill shit. So, you know, it made a lot of sense. It made a lot of sense to show the support that Arizona archery had for youth baseball. It was a huge success.

Jacob Moreno: Especially down south. Yeah.

Jason Corley: huge success. A lot of people would come up and ask me, what's AAE? What's AAE? And it gave me an opportunity to talk about the company and to talk about the brand and what they do. But I brought this up to, I brought this up to Brooks' coach this year. Peep, not a word, not a word. I was like, you could literally sell every photo that we do of the team. You could sell that to sponsors and for thousands and thousands of dollars, you could pay for every tournament throughout the year if you sold it the right way. And nothing.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: Nothing. What do we do? We want to have fundraisers. Like I don't, I don't get it. I can tell you right now, the fundraisers don't go over well. Okay. I'm not going to buy your raffle ticket when I need you to buy my raffle ticket.

Jacob Moreno: Might as well just keep each other's 20 and call it a wash.

Jason Corley: Bro, right. And so and that and now coach is pissed off because we didn't sell each other a raffle ticket. Well, why would we coach? You know what saying? Like, I mean, what about all the ex-alcoholics in the world that don't want to have a raffle for liquor? Like, but they really would like to support Billy Bob. You know what mean? Like, there's a lot of people that don't want to be involved with those kind of raffles. I can tell you for a fact, I had to have this conversation with Brooks' coaches here. I'm like, this raffle is the dumbest thing earth.

Jacob Moreno: I get it, man.

Jason Corley: Like you guys are brain dead to not know where we come from. live in the most... Do you understand that Holmes County is a dry county? Do you understand that Holmes County, there's no alcohol sales in Holmes County. Like it's still 1852 in Holmes County. Okay. So therefore, like you gotta be tone deaf to not understand his grandmothers are not gonna buy raffle tickets for a bucket full of liquor. So we're not gonna get to support him. Do you know what I mean?

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: Like it's just things like that. I understand that sometimes it goes over well with girls soccer or with girls softball or whatever, but it just there's, gave you, I gave you a perfect avenue to make money and to sell advertising space, to make it easier on the families. And nobody does it. does it. I remember, Hey, remember when we did athletes go live and not one person wanted to get involved with that.

Jacob Moreno: Alright, man. Right. Yep.

Jason Corley: Athletes Go Live came and pitched us and that was a great, the whole format was great, but not one parent wanted to go out and look for advertising dollars.

Jacob Moreno: that phone never got hot.

Jason Corley: phone. Yeah. The only thing that I didn't like about that was was that their camera system, it was OK. I mean, it was it was fine. The Mivo game changer is by far the best. But you know how it would turn orange if you played under the light? Sucked. Oh, my God. That sucked. That sucked. Like the quality of the video coming out of the athletes go live camera sucked. Like it was not good. And it was a I think my parents said that it was almost like a 45 second delay.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my mind said the same.

Jason Corley: So yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they were, they could literally watch it in real time on Facebook because we had other parents streaming it to Facebook like in the moment. And then like 45 seconds later, they would get the full, full view from athletes go live. yeah. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: I mean, I don't know. Sometimes is it when you ask people to do fund or not fundraisers just to go do that, you know, the pride, they don't want to do it. Or is it is it more time out of their day doing stuff like that?

Jason Corley: Do you think that it comes off because they feel like it shows weakness or something? Like, you can't believe that this guy owns a Fortune 500 company and he's asking us for advertising dollars? Like, have... I don't know. See, I don't know. I mean, I've never been in a position where I've had that much money to where I didn't have to ask for advertising dollars. Therefore, I guess I'm comfortable because I don't like... You'll know that this is a huge financial burden.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah, you know exactly that's exactly what it is. Yeah, I get that.

Jason Corley: So of course, but I guess at other end of the spectrum too is that I'm not asking for it for free. I'm willing to work my ass off for it. I'm willing to all these pictures for you. I'm willing to shoot.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. And you guys did, man. You guys took tons and tons of pictures.

Jason Corley: We have taken thousands of pictures over the last four years. have have we have taken more photos and I don't just mean photos folks. I'm talking I'm talking when we roll up and I shouldn't say this but fuck it. I mean we've got 15 grand worth of camera gear with each one of us every time we roll into a place and shout out to Dom because Dom's now in the same position we are now we got backup stuff because Dom can't take pictures at baseball games. because he's so lasered in but it is great having his gear there because then we got double everything.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ Yeah, because now you can put one on one side, one on other side and just have at it.

Jason Corley: Dom, yeah, thank God for not just Gino, but for Dom. Like Dom in hot with Starlink, ⁓ Meevos, and ⁓ grand worth of camera gear, and he doesn't touch any of it. He stands behind plate and just bites his nails the whole game. So, and then at the end he's like, yeah, can I stream it? Well, he doesn't even do that anymore. He quit doing that. So yeah, no, he just, yeah, he just could not.

Jacob Moreno: We start the... streaming it on YouTube. ⁓ did he?

Jason Corley: He's just too at this level that he's that we're at. He's just too into the game. And I think he also found out, too, that of his family was watching the Game Changer feed and not once his dad fell in love with once me and his dad fell in love with each other. Like his dad's like, well, Jason's feeds better. So I'm not watching your shit. ⁓ no, it's in all seriousness, though, like I've never pitched.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah ⁓ man.

Jason Corley: I've never pitched advertising dollars that I did not think for one second that I could then over deliver in a return ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. And this goes all the way back to the archery days. I literally almost destroyed my family trying to give more back in advertising than what you gave in sponsorship dollars. Okay. That's that. That is that with this so easy, like, I would say, I would assume

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. You Yeah.

Jason Corley: We haven't had a conversation about this yet, but I would assume that Bardstown, Bourbon and Green River Whiskey are pretty happy with the amount of love and the amount of exposure that we're giving them. Okay. Well, we have went well above and beyond what they have paid for. All that being said, that goes into the back burner. When it comes time to re-up, we have that conversation of, there we go. Like now you know what we're capable of. Here's what it looks like going forward. Same thing goes with

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would say they would. Yes. Yeah.

Jason Corley: The baseball stuff. just don't understand. it is, are two sleeves, a back and a chest and a hat. There's a lot of places to put a patch. And guess what? Every picture you usually see that patch in every photo. Not to mention the watermark on the photo. On the photo. Not to mention that you can literally sell, well, we're going to the PGI. This PGI is an exclusive one. You get all. ⁓

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. On the photo, is exclusive to this company and this company only.

Jason Corley: Yep for for $8,000 you get every photo that we take every Every single video that we post to a YouTube short every time we mic up a kid in the field and we posted YouTube Your your logo is in your ad Your hyperlink is gonna be in the description of every single one of these things for that tournament and That right there is not just gonna get shared by our family. It's getting shared by PG Yeah, so

Jacob Moreno: Yeah.

Jason Corley: I just wish some of these organizations would just swallow their pride a little bit. And we do have some that do a great job of it. They're very active with getting sponsors and we have some that for some reason they feel like it's some sort of a black mark on them. Like, my God, he's.

Jacob Moreno: Well, you even see it online, the ones that go out and get it. They're not afraid to, you know, with the videos and the pictures and that they go out and get these sponsors.

Jason Corley: What do you think DK national team is doing? What do you think that they're hiring video crews to follow them for? Generate sponsorship dollars.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, dude, all them videos they had were sweet.

Jason Corley: Bro, like what Hector and them are doing with the 9U team? Pretty hot. Like pretty hot for a bunch of eight, nine year old kids. Like if they stay at this range, they've got it made for the next eight years. Because they're building their Paul Bunyan, like Karen said. They're built right now. They're forming it, they're getting the exposure, they're bringing all this exposure and all this attention to these boys.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: that's a standard then that these boys have to live up to in order to keep that going. So the boys have got to perform and the boys have got to put the work in as kids in order to stay in that program because they want that attention because the boys want the attention. me, many times are they?

Jacob Moreno: Yep. Yeah, it's, ⁓ yeah, man. You don't think wanna see yourself online? Or your mom show you a video? Like, look at you.

Jason Corley: bro how many times they fight over there when we mic them up in the dugout

Jacob Moreno: dude, they love it. They it, man.

Jason Corley: ⁓ want to know. I've literally used it as bait in the dugout with our team before. You know this. ⁓ balls out this inning gets the mic next inning. dude, I'm gonna get a double, I'm getting a triple, I'm gonna hit one over the fence. You know what mean? It's like carrot that I dangle. What is it? It's a wireless mic. The kids love They absolutely love it. ⁓ And that's the we live in now. And I just don't understand why we're not capitalizing on it as an organization.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Corley: If you want to keep these the best players around understand we don't have to be here. We don't have to pay this money. We don't have to do that. We don't have to make these sacrifices. We can do a lot of other things than this shit. So therefore do something to scratch our backs like we keep scratching ears scratch our backs. Just just something. Just throw us a bone as they would like to say. So anyways. right. What else? Anything else going on?

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, what about you guys? You guys ready? You excited?

Jason Corley: yes, we're excited. We're excited. HUD. I had HUD go outside and throw ⁓ last bullpen today across the street, the neighbor's house. it's so muddy outside. Well, we wanted to go up to the football field, but the entire track program was on the football field today after school. and obviously team was out, softball team was out. So those are the only three turf fields in our community. So then we came back to the house and I tried to go to the cage, but the cage was completely booked up. Congratulations. Cage was completely booked up until nine o'clock tonight. I just, yeah, came home, went across the street. Bill is our neighbor. He's a single guy that lives across the street. Older gentleman, his wife passed away two years ago, I think, from cancer. Not really sure. ⁓ He bought a brand new Mercedes. It's sick. He just pulled up. He just pulled up. He's got a new he's got a new girlfriend. He's got a new he's got a new female companion as he would like to say and uh and and bill and jill that's what he called bill and jill and uh yeah i went out to get the mail yesterday or do something i don't what it was and this silent little mercedes it's all electric too silent little mercedes pulls up right next to me he goes shh man i'm like what is this

Jacob Moreno: Alright, go ahead Bill. Go ahead Bill. No. Yeah

Jason Corley: Yeah, because he usually rides his motorcycle. He's got a Harley and yeah, he's got a Harley and a Dodge truck. And I was like, what is this? I think it might be Jill's. think it might be Jill's because he was literally just rolled into town to get his mail and then he was back out again. So we go over to his yard. So the boys take care of raking his leaves and blowing his leaves for him. And sometimes they'll shovel the snow. But he hasn't been home a lot in the last two years since Jill has been in his life.

Jacob Moreno: ⁓ okay. You Yeah.

Jason Corley: There's no reason to shovel his driveway because he's never coming in going out. So the boys are just like, yeah, this works out great. so if you saw, he has a little shed that he keeps his lawnmower in. And I probably shouldn't say this because somebody will probably tries to actually know because he's got cameras on it. And also we're in Sugar Creek, so they would get shot before they'd ever get ⁓ down street. ⁓ We have our own law here in Sugar Creek Amish country.

Jacob Moreno: Unless you see it. Hurry up, hurry up. Get out there. You

Jason Corley: So he has that little barn and it's got the little, did you see the little ramp? It comes out of the lawnmower. Hud was using that as his pitching mound.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Is this bitching my own? Hey man, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Jason Corley: gotta do what you gotta do when you're in the country, baby. Yeah, Brooks was back at 50 feet and yeah, he was just getting, he's just working on, he changed his change or he changed his change up grip. Brandon, yeah, Brandon helped him with him. So he was just getting a little bit more feel for it and yeah, a little bit long toss, but yeah, we're ready. I mean, we're as ready as we're going to be, dude. You know how it goes. We got a pretty good draw. We got our team there. I've never heard of him before. I talked to Brian. So,

Jacob Moreno: Yep. Yeah, that's what you said. Acclimated with it, I didn't see it.

Jason Corley: Austin who I coached for the top 72 he plays for Florida elite who's in this tournament We've always we've always stay in touch. I've actually tried to get Austin to come to the hit dogs team Austin is a great kid great family everything love everything about about them. Well Brian his dad I stay in contact with him in fact Brian has messaged me a couple times about different podcasts things that he's heard and Brian was just like

Jacob Moreno: Okay. Yeah.

Jason Corley: He's like, ⁓ you guys got a good draw. And I'm like, well, it's a good, that that's a great thing because it'd be nice if we could jog before we have to run this year. You know what mean? We can get a little bit of a start. Right. So, but yeah, other than that, you guys are just training this week, obviously.

Jacob Moreno: Yeah, instead of having to sprint, instead of coming out in the sprint. Yeah, well yeah, we'll go, what's today, Wednesday? Tomorrow, he'll train with the high school. Friday, he'll train with the high school. Saturday, we go north. Then Sunday, we go north. And then we get two weeks, week from Thursday, a week from next Friday, two weeks from this Friday, we go to Atlanta. ⁓ you guys will be there. You guys will be there, yeah?

Jason Corley: Okay, okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. There too. Yep. We're all staying in the same hotel. So both teams. What's that? Oh really? Nice. Yeah. We're going to have some, like, I don't know how Florida is going to pan out just because it's the first tournament. So y'all bear with me if we don't gain any content while we're down there. But I'm telling you, when we get to Georgia, uh, we're going to be a different story with me and you together in the same lobby. So, and yeah.

Jacob Moreno: Yup. I my brother's coming too. My brother's coming too. Yup. That's gonna be a different story.

Jason Corley: with the the bourbon right there next to us. So it should be fun. But ⁓ well, hey, congratulations. I said, hey, let's try to get 45 minutes in tonight. And we've been over now. Our 32. So, yeah, there it is again. We just don't know when to shut up. So, ⁓ yeah, continue to call into the voicemail line. It doesn't have to be about tonight's topic. Doesn't have to be about anything. If you have something you want to get off your chest, you can also feel free to use it as an anonymous tip line if you.

Jacob Moreno: Hour 32. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. You want to tell us what teams are doing what or what not? Go ahead.

Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah, if you want to the beans and pull the curtain back on something and you don't want to leave your your ⁓ your name or whatever feel free Yeah, it can be yeah, it can be that could be the hotline ⁓ But alright man, well listen I'm gonna get out of here cuz wait I got to get this thing edited and I got to get it posted before we get on the road at like six o'clock in the morning, so ⁓ other

Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yep. Well, I mean, good luck to you guys this weekend. I'll be watching. I'll be texting you. So tell Hud to ball out.

Jason Corley: Yep, of course. I will. will. All right, man. We'll tell family that hi and love you. you. Bye.

Jacob Moreno: All right. Yep. You too. Love you. See you. Bye.