Jason Corley: welcome everybody to the travel. They ask podcast brought to you by bars, Tom bourbon, green river whiskey. I'm your host Jason quarterly alongside with my amigo. Jacob Moreno: Jacob Moreno, bienvenidos a otro episodio de Travel Dead Podcast. Jason Corley: What up, buddy? Jacob Moreno: Well, not much man. I just got home. Went and watched the varsity baseball game. They played their other rivals in one to one. So that was good. That was it was a good game. How about you? Jason Corley: Nice. has been King Arthur the third's birthday. ⁓ this is, is, this is the call. ⁓ I don't know about anybody else, but in our family, especially Lindsey's side, they celebrate birthdays for like a week, sometimes eight, nine days. Like just, they just, like everybody that's in our family on both sides has to have. Jacob Moreno: Hahaha! You sent me that earlier and I would die and like, hey man, let that kid live. Jason Corley: a piece of this. everybody being able to get together at one time, this ⁓ drags on. So today was ⁓ his actual birthday. so, yeah, we were busy all day long. ⁓ He a party up at where we go to church at New Point. I don't know, there was, ⁓ and of we have HUD. So you have all of Brooks's friends and then you have all of HUD's friends. Cause you know what mean? Jacob Moreno: Hehehehe... Mm-hmm. ⁓ Jason Corley: At one point there was, I don't know, there were 16, 16 kids there playing basketball and pickleball and everything else. So, I mean, it was a good day. Thankfully it was a good day. So, you know, the weather, the weather was beautiful. ⁓ ⁓ if not, everybody would have been at my house and that would have made for a very, very difficult situation, for this dad. So, but, ⁓ yeah, other than that, man, busy today was busy. Last couple of days have been busy, busy, ⁓ So. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, same with those. Jason Corley: So trying to gear up. ⁓ What's that? ⁓ so you said same with us. Yeah. And, ⁓ trying to get, gave the boys, I gave the boys spring break. I gave it off. So like we didn't do anything instructional wise for baseball. Like anything that they did was just in the yard or by themselves. You know, there was no, we didn't do any hitting. Yeah. We didn't do any of that stuff. I gave them off for spring break. And, ⁓ today was the day that we picked it back up. Jacob Moreno: I said same with us, man, I've been busy. goofing around. Jason Corley: ⁓ they start school tomorrow, so we'll go, we went today, we'll go tomorrow, we'll go Friday and then we, yeah, Brooks plays Saturday morning. So, and then we play Saturday night. Do you guys play Friday or Saturday or Friday? Okay. Jacob Moreno: Saturday morning, we play Bulls Black and Bulls Gray. Jason Corley: Okay. And folks, just so you know, Jacob and I are sitting here bullshitting because we're waiting for our guest tonight, which I'm really honestly like I'm excited about this because I just think that she's going to be a wealth of knowledge. But tonight we are going to be joined by master of science and a registered dietitian, Kaitlyn McNally ⁓ of there she is. There she is. I'm gonna tag her in. Can you hear me okay? Kaitlyn McNally: rate. Yes. Jason Corley: Folks, we are welcomed right now, or I want to welcome right now, Ms. ⁓ and she is a master of science and a registered dietitian with youthsportsnutrition.com. Kaitlyn, thank you for coming ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Thank you. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes, so excited to be talking with you guys today. ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah, it just, happened. This happened as platonic and as natural as something could really honestly ever happen. I just was scrolling through, after posting a reel, ⁓ and Jacob and I have brought this up before, but I was posting a reel and I was, I was going through answering some messages on it ⁓ my feed just popped up with another, another ad for, you know, kids creatine. And I'm like, okay. Jacob Moreno: You Jason Corley: I'm like, this is, we gotta have this conversation, but not just that conversation. There's so much more that goes into this. And when I talked to Jacob, after I talked to you, I said, bro, I said, there are so many things I want to ask her about because ⁓ the plea out and instantly you and I connected. ⁓ I'm thankful that we did because then the flood of people started coming in wanting ⁓ be a part of this. like, I got my person. Jacob Moreno: and Jason Corley: Let's just see how this plans out. got my person, but tell everybody just a little bit about your background because I know you come from also a softball background, correct? So tell everybody a little bit about yourself. Jacob Moreno: I'm sorry. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes, well thank you for having me on. Jason mentioned, my name is Kaitlyn McNally. I'm a registered dietitian and owner of Youth Sports Nutrition. ⁓ I decided to become a dietitian, I didn't really know what was or what I was going to do. ⁓ But throughout studies at the University of Buffalo, I really got immersed into their athletic program and started working with the college athletes Jason Corley: Sure. Kaitlyn McNally: and I really had a great mentor ⁓ a great professor ⁓ ⁓ and it was awesome and ⁓ I the idea of it and it just really brought me back to my days as a softball athlete ⁓ as female athlete really struggled with fatigue, ⁓ muscle low iron levels and I just kept thinking back and reflecting that if ⁓ I knew information five plus years ago then I would have been so much I would have been a much better athlete so then I took the knowledge I did work with college athletes I worked with some professional athletes but then really decided to pivot into solely middle school and high school athletes and that has been for about eight years now and it has been Jason Corley: ⁓ Kaitlyn McNally: exciting to see the world of youth sports, you just ⁓ explode. When was in high school as a high school athlete, ⁓ you our softball conditioning was a week before ⁓ in rusty old weight room with ⁓ no coach, right? Like, ⁓ and these ⁓ high have ⁓ full-time coaches and their facilities even at the high school level is great, right? And then there's so Jacob Moreno: Thank Kaitlyn McNally: many additional resources. mean at the time we really just had like school and club or school and travel or rec league but now it's just expanded so much and it's incredible to really see. Jason Corley: When did you like, Jacob and I have brought this up before. When, like, when did this nutrition kick, like, when did it take off in America? Cause I feel like, you know what I mean? I feel like, yeah, for young athletes, I mean, obviously, you know, as adults, we always do our, you know, uh, what is it year? Uh, we do it two years resolution bull crap, but like for young athletes, when did this really start? Do you, do you know? Jacob Moreno: for young athletes. New Year's resolution. Kaitlyn McNally: So I don't remember the exact year, but where I feel it really started was obviously we know the NCAA has a lot of regulations of what they can and cannot provide athletes at the college level. I ⁓ remember the year, but there was a year where the regulation shifted. At first, they were not allowed to provide athletes with any food or beverage or like any of like meal. or there was a lot of restriction around food and nutrition and supplements. ⁓ deregulated that. And really that's where you see this huge push and you see these massive fueling tables and ⁓ training at these colleges. Like, you know, their athletic departments have their own cafeteria. ⁓ And think that's where that really shifted was because the NCAA ⁓ deregulated around food. ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay. Well, it's it's also, it's a requirement. There are not a requirement, but it's a recruiting tool too that some of these, yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Right. Yeah. And so. Yes, I actually saw like a video of women's basketball. Like they gave their chef ⁓ part of the net from when they won the championship last week. And it was like, that's so cool. Like, because that chef is just as part of the team ⁓ ⁓ else, like as another support staff. ⁓ ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Yeah, these guys have their own chefs and everything. Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I mean if it wasn't for the chef they wouldn't be getting fueled the way they need to like properly. Kaitlyn McNally: Right, yes, and you know, they have a dietitian that works closely with the chef to come up with that meal plan and provide those nutrition guidance. But I really feel like that when it kind of changed in the college level, then it slowly has started, you know, blending into younger athletes. Jason Corley: Because it's always been kind of like everybody's always known that pro athletes have the ability, but we've the perception has always been well, yeah, they're pros. They can afford to have their personal chef. But when you're saying that it when it starts to trickle into the college, that's more obtainable. So that's more relatable. And that's easier for a parent to implement or to copy. I guess you could say because you might have a sibling that is older and going through it and bringing that information back home being like, yeah, man, I'm you know they're they're making us our our own you know fresh omelets in morning now and you know last year all they gave us was you know was what we can get out of it out of a vending machine yeah yeah Kaitlyn McNally: Right, and I... Jacob Moreno: a bar and a water. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, exactly. think too, I mean, I know we all have younger kids, have little kids who haven't started sports yet, but I think of like ⁓ the of sending my kid off to college and they don't know how to fuel their body for sport. And I feel like as a parent, you're like, ⁓ that provides so much more like, ⁓ okay, trust them and like, okay, they're going to get the food that they need. Right. Like that's just one additional thing that I don't have to worry about as a parent. Right. Like as I'm ⁓ sending off to college to possibly play a sport and like all the things right so yeah I want to that was ⁓ want to say probably like 15 plus years ago now but as like flies but yeah where and then especially with that push of ⁓ strength coaches younger athletes because strength coaches during their certifications they do have some testing and knowledge around nutrition so they do have that base knowledge Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah. ⁓ Mmm. Yeah. So before I, before we get into the notes that I sent you and just like I disclaimer to everybody that's watching and listening, I did send her our notes because A, I didn't want to sound like a doofus, but number two, I want her to be able to gather her thoughts and know the angle of which Jake and I were just, think, I think typically she doesn't, she doesn't typically deal and interact with a lot of travel ball dads. And I think that this is just a perfect. Jacob Moreno: you Jason Corley: conversation because you and I spend Jacob and I like, in our family, my wife and I were divided because we have kids going in separate directions with different teams. a lot of times Jacob, a lot of times is the only one that's with Brantley. So there's a lot, brother, there's a lot of meals where you and I just had to provide on our own and figure this out as we along. But we're just, we're just two of millions of parents out there that are, that are juggling this stuff. So. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: Before we get into that, want to ask you, just because you just brought up the whole nutrition thing, are you for and against, like, the whole government turning our food pyramid upside down now? ⁓ Now the bread's on top. I think the bread's on top and the meat's on the bottom. Kaitlyn McNally: gosh. ⁓ Oh gosh, you know, I know, I know, I know, you know, gonna be a hard shift for me. So when I first started my nutrition education, they had shifted from the food pyramid to now, or it was my plate. So really my whole career has been educating on the my plate. And now to be like, oh, I may have to shift it. I know there's a lot of pushback, Jacob Moreno: hahahaha Jason Corley: Yeah, it's all nice. Thanks Kaitlyn McNally: But you know what's nice with nutrition is that they have their own plate and their own education method. So I'm going to stick to that one. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Hehehehehe ⁓ Jason Corley: Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Well, listen, let's get into it. I want to ask you to straight off the jump because I, you know, this conversation could last 20 minutes. It could last an hour. I don't know. We'll just let it flow the way it flows. And probably the most important thing that I want to ask you about is what brought this whole thing to fruition. And that is, is what age is it safe to start the protein implementation of kids? coming from fathers of twelve-year-olds who play multiple sports started in forgive me if this is wrong but i mean i started giving my son protein shakes last year during football season and it was strictly based off of my experience of protein it would stand these tendencies seem to go up and down whenever i'm working out i make him work out and so for so forth that jacob knows i'm talking about ⁓ Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yep. Jason Corley: but i did it based mainly because of recovery because of football i have a kid who's twelve who can literally eat anything he wants to eat and he will not put a single calorie on and i have another kid who can look at food and gain weight and jacob jim and i've yes j right Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Nope. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Jacob Moreno: That's how, that's how brainly is too, because I mean, we struggle with the whole fact of making choices on food, ⁓ sometimes it's hard. Sometimes, you know, you don't have much time and you just got to grab what you can grab. Jason Corley: Yeah. ⁓ So for parents out there that are in this area of their lives where they are convinced that their child ⁓ the best and deserves the best, what's the safe age for this to start taking place? Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, I think when we look at protein supplements in general, what I always like is instead of looking at it as a certain age of when they can have it, it's like, okay, let's look at their overall diet. Are they getting good amounts and good quality protein throughout the day? You know, if we're already, well, well, right. So, you know, well, I'm thinking to myself like, you know, when I'm counseling, Jason Corley: No. No, no, he's not. He's a big eater. Kaitlyn McNally: or coaching athletes. like, let's get I'm not against protein supplements. I think for a 12 year old, that's fine. You know, some away a really good high quality whey protein is awesome. it's like, okay, are you still getting three meals in a day that includes protein? Are you getting at least two snacks in a day? ⁓ know, using that ⁓ supplement ⁓ a true like what the word is, is it's a supplement to your overall diet. So let's look at your overall we're all diet, let's get in a really good routine. Let's have you understand how food is fuel. Let's put out like a positive spin around the idea of food is going to provide you energy. It's beneficial for performance and then we'll supplement with protein shake, right? ⁓ really good... ⁓ Jason Corley: so it can't be a substitution. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, or replace like a replacement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the best like example I like to give is okay, say you're leaving the ball field and you have a little bit of a drive, right? And you know, you're not going to eat dinner for an hour and half, maybe two hours. I don't just kind of making this up at the top of my head. opportunity to have a protein supplement. You know, we don't want a post workout. We don't want just protein. We want to add a good source of carbohydrates in there as well. Jason Corley: replacement it can't be that Jacob Moreno: That's what Kaitlyn McNally: but knowing that there's like that buffer time before they're gonna have a really good solid meal, great opportunity to have a protein supplement is while they're on the car ride home, right? To kind of help with that hunger a little bit, you're speeding up recovery and you know at the end of the day they're gonna have a good meal when you get home. I'm just, you know, kind of using that as an example. Jason Corley: Yeah, so all right, so I want to ask you this then if we're going to if we're going to go into that route and we'll get to the creatine here in a minute, but that's probably a huge Jacob and I can attest to this. That's a huge struggle with the travel ball community. And I'm just going to this is way down on the notes, but we're already touching on it. So we're going there. And that is is that we've got let's the 12 year olds out of it. OK, let's take the 12 year olds out. Let's take the kids that are younger than that. Let's say. Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Jason Corley: too young to be on protein supplements at this time, okay? Let's take the kids on it that are eight, nine, 10, 10 years old in that age break. You've got kids that are waking up at 5.45 in the morning to play an eight o'clock in the morning game. This is just reality. I'm not making this up. Hey, we gotta wake up at 5.45, so you gotta somehow, someway get them even interested in eating breakfast by six o'clock so that it's digested or at least not in their gut. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yep. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Jason Corley: by seven when they start hitting baseballs and taking infield and having to put on catcher's gear and bend over and all sort of stuff because the game first pitch is at eight o'clock. Well, then they go on a run. And before you know it, you've been 13 hours at the ballpark and you're going into game four. OK, you've blown through all of your snacks throughout the day. You've blown through them all. Your cooler is empty. And the only thing that you got left is the concession stand crap that we all know is there. OK, what what can we do as parents? to keep them fueled on these crazy long days. I just call them championship Sundays. These crazy long days where they're playing three, four, yeah, sometimes four games. would say, what is it? to the max, Jacob, for us, the appointment for four to the max. But you can be there 14 hours. Yeah, you can be there 13, 14 hours. What can we do for these kids that can't go crack, you know, they can't go hammer down a protein shake? Jacob Moreno: Yeah, four's the max. Yeah, I mean, we're there 12 and a half, 13 hours. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ right. Yeah, definitely not, you know, in between games. Probably wouldn't recommend that. you know, starting off with your initial question of like what to eat in the morning, right, is most of the time the most one of the most common things I hear with athletes as we wake up so early, we don't have an appetite to eat. So really, how can we combat that? You know, you don't want to be being like, well, here's a full plate of eggs and bacon and and all this thing and be like, hey, forcing them to eat that, right? So I always recommend liquid options. So whether it's a smoothie, juice, things like milk, cereal, just something to really get them going. And then because we don't want to skip breakfast, that's the number one thing you don't want to, especially, absolutely, absolutely. But I will say like having a smoothie is a really great option because it's very nutritious. Jason Corley: So that rule still applies. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: intense. There's a good amount of calories. It's all, you know, fruits and veggies and you can add some peanut butter in there and milk and all this. And so it's going to provide really awesome sustainable energy. So that's really important too when you are going to be on the ball fields for a long time is sustainable energy. You want it for to last all day long. so having a smoothie to make sure they get something in their system and ready to play for that 8 a.m. game, but still feeling their best. Like you said, it's fully digested and not in their system. you know, yeah. Jason Corley: How long does something like that last? mean, is that gonna... Kaitlyn McNally: That'll be great for your 8 a.m. Game, but there's definitely um, I have a blog post I'll be sure to send you but I have I'm a great list of like dugout snacks and We always like to say like try to it's hard to plan ahead I'm sure as you're trying to figure out like you're with who if this person wins and we win, know, when's our next game but um, know, we always want to you know, Stay fueled throughout the day. So having dugout snacks like you've Jacob Moreno: Thank Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Right? Right. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: mentioned sounds like a great option and then ultimately you want to try to plan for as much as possible how much time you have in between games so you do have a longer break you what is something a little bit more sustainable that they can get in their system that a lot that still allows plenty of time to digest so ⁓ say have a two-hour break ⁓ I it's probably ⁓ I know how realistic that is ⁓ the right ⁓ so yeah Jason Corley: Mm-hmm. ⁓ would probably be max. That'd probably be max. Yeah. Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: So if you had if you knew you had it to our break, that's when I would get a turkey sandwich some fruit ⁓ ⁓ Yes something that has ⁓ Jacob Moreno: So you say go to like Jimmy John's or Subway. Jason Corley: Okay. See, wasn't expecting that as an answer. I thought you were going to tell me that the breads and the carbs were bad, but you're telling me that that's actually not a bad thing. Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, so when we look at just so when I work with athletes, my big or really my nutrition philosophy is really about education, especially at this young middle school level. Like really, we're just teaching them like what is a carbohydrate and what a protein, what is a fat and really providing them with that education and background, you know, so like ⁓ and helping them implement it. So especially as parents, too, is that ⁓ you that carbohydrates for especially for sport carbohydrates is going to be the main source of energy for our body for our muscles for our brain for focus attention precision speed ⁓ carbohydrates really like from a physiological standpoint carbohydrates is what ⁓ the body go and you've mentioned protein and then like that protein for recovery is so important And that's where it really helps with the muscle soreness and muscle building and all of that too. So carbohydrates we don't want to stay away from. They have a purpose and especially for kids at this level. It's really important to have that really positive, ⁓ know, conversation it. ⁓ Probably away from like a lot of the fried food ⁓ or that are. would say mostly like fried food like in ⁓ like ⁓ food would probably want to stay away from around like games and stuff Jason Corley: Is there, are there things that we're giving them that are hurting their performance? Like are there things that we're doing that are creating a lack of energy that are slowing them down, that are making them tired? are, like, are there things that we're doing that we don't even know that we're doing that are hindering the performance? Kaitlyn McNally: can directly think of. ⁓ I will say, yeah, I will say the funniest thing that I heard. Jason Corley: mean, without being there, obviously, yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: I can't remember who I heard this from, but it was from a baseball player. He was like a high schooler. He said he was bringing a half of avocado to the bench every game. And don't if that was beneficial just because avocado is a fat and ⁓ fat ⁓ fat, it's very healthy fat, but in. ⁓ Jason Corley: Sure. Okay. Jacob Moreno: ⁓ I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Jason Corley: Sure, it's healthy for after. Kaitlyn McNally: I probably wouldn't have that on the bench. It was the most ⁓ ⁓ specific question I've had. ⁓ Jason Corley: Yes. Well, baseball players are, baseball players are, that were very superstitious. So maybe the avocado. Maybe he knows. And maybe that's why it was only a half and not a whole, you ⁓ Kaitlyn McNally: Well, yeah, and maybe that it. Yeah ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: So those like I think in the notes, you know mentioned a lot of those simple carbohydrates like Clif bars and granola bars and like a sports drink so ⁓ of those types of foods are gonna provide your athlete with like that quick burst of energy that they need but when you get to ⁓ this long ⁓ of ⁓ know, do want something a little bit more sustainable there like your athletes probably tired of Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: eating all the snacks right like they want they're like we want like a meal right like they're like I just want to be full so you know a peanut butter and jelly sandwich can at least be a little bit you know more in their stomach than just like a granola bar or something like that Jason Corley: Yeah, I take it. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. was not expecting Jacob. wasn't expecting the breads to be, and it makes all the sense in the world because the carbohydrates are obviously the healthiest form of sugar. And that's why they get so, so ramped up when they're, when they're eating this stuff. Um, but had I, I guess I never, I never would have thought in a million years that our runs to Jimmy John's are a good thing, but now that I know that they are, I'm all over that shit. Like that's happening. Like that, that is happening. Like. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's very funny that we have her on today because Brinkley went and saw a dietician today and you know, he broke him down with, yeah, and he broke him down with good carbohydrates and bad and you know, he's all over but you know, one of his biggest things was that it's okay. He's like, dad, I can eat bread. I'm like, well, I've always been told bread was bad and fattening. But you know, Kaitlyn McNally: it Jason Corley: You told me that was happening. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Jacob Moreno: So, I mean, he's learning and, you know, there's a couple things that the guy, the doctor gave him that he wants to try out. But I do have a question for you. So since about mid-September when Brantley trains, I've been giving him sea moss, a mango sea moss. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Jacob Moreno: And he seems to, it's almost like a smoothie. It's like a drink. And it's Mason jar and he drinks it. Jason Corley: Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: you Okay? Yeah. Jason Corley: you know we're going to put that you know we're to click the shit out of what you just said right there right like this is going to go viral yeah we're gonna get it again Jacob Moreno: The CMOS? ⁓ and I mean, this is a shout out to his trainer. trainer told him, ⁓ it's good. I've looked into it and it's good for his immune system. It gives him a burst of energy and stuff like that. So his trainer's like, this is actually real good for him. So I ⁓ wanted to know, see how you felt about it, because he likes it. Once train, we get done training, he'll come home and he'll drink some of it and ⁓ he's Kaitlyn McNally: Okay. Yeah. Okay, that's great. I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm shocked that he likes it. mean, I got my son to lick a carrot today and I felt like, like a good dietitian, you know what I mean? And your son's eating, you know, drinking Seamoth. Jason Corley: Yeah, that's first. First I've heard of this. Jacob Moreno: ⁓ it's so good. Jason Corley: you Jacob Moreno: But you okay, so there's a difference here. Jason Corley: So it's a... Seamoth. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Jacob Moreno: You know, there's a difference on my kid, my kid eats and drinks anything. Like he's not, he's not a picky eater. And, it was at first it was weird, but I mean, he seems to like it. He, you know, when he drinks it, you get, you can see the energy, like it's giving him energy and stuff. So I just didn't know how you felt about that or you know, what were you. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jason Corley: That's good. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I actually don't know much about it. mean, I know that like, I know algae is like a really big thing now too, but it sounds like, you know, a lot of these like natural ⁓ ⁓ fruits and vegetables, you know, more so than, I'm trying to think of a good example, but I think that, you know, also there's like that. don't want to say it's a placebo because I truly believe you know, but it's also like, you know what? It's good for you. It's good for your performance. Like I mean, there's nothing bad about any of it. You know, I bet it's a really good source of fiber. It sounds like it's very anti rich ⁓ antioxidants. And so, know, I think just looking at the nutrition label, especially to make sure if it's after a workout, making Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: Yeah, I don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you? Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: sure you know that's probably I'm guessing it's a little bit more carbohydrate based so making sure he's still getting good source of protein after his workout like he's gonna feel really good you know and because he's choosing that right like if you kind of think of just in general right like if you're eating fast food every single day for every meal eventually you're gonna get sick and tired of it and you're not gonna feel good right but when we start introducing these whole foods fruits and vegetables you know making things that Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Kaitlyn McNally: home like we automatically start feeling a little bit better just because the nutrition in what we're making at home is just going to be better than eating out. Not saying that we can't eat out at fast food restaurants or or chain restaurants or anything like that but you we do try to like prioritize and think okay when if you are going to eat out on these long travel days or when you're traveling like ⁓ let's out what are you know send me your restaurants let's figure out some good options. You know, let's look at timing of things. Let's make sure it's a good time within your tournament or within your game schedule so that really can maximize performance that way too. ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay, so you just brought up the next point that I want to have and I swear to God, I'm going to forget about four of these, Jacob, and it's going to piss me off later, but going there. So what do we the night before? ⁓ And how does this take? Because there's some where we might not get home from the ballpark or back to the hotel until eight, nine, 10 o'clock sometimes. Jacob Moreno: I got you. Thank you. That was my next question. Jason Corley: and then we find out we have to be up at five forty five in the morning so what can we do and i know you're right as i'm saying this i saw it lunatic you're right which is why we're doing the podcast because this is really was when you think when you say out loud jacob it sounds way worse than that without a doubt when i say this out loud i'm like i'm literally explaining exactly what's probably gonna happen this saturday like i'm not even making this up so my question to you is is what can we do for these kids Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jacob Moreno: It says, ⁓ for sure. I know. your cringe. Kaitlyn McNally: It's crazy. That is crazy. Jason Corley: at that time frame so that there really no point because it's not going to be in their system by the next day anyways? What are we doing? Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that quick turnaround is so right? So the biggest thing, an analogy here, right? Like, ⁓ so analogy that I use often ⁓ is thinking your body as a car and the and your muscles are the gas tank, right? So say you're starting ⁓ on Saturday morning I'm going to kind of back up here. So Saturday morning. ⁓ So really the ⁓ is is that you want to start or your athlete wants to start their competition with a full gas tank so that means you got to back it up even more so we're gonna start fueling our body our gas tank on Friday ⁓ we're constantly no matter what we're doing throughout the day we're using our gas tank right like we're using nutrition and ⁓ you know using energy ⁓ Jason Corley: Even though you're refilling up, you're still using. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, you're still using it to a certain extent, right? Like even if you're not going like working out really hard, you know, we just everyday activity. So we're you know, you're going to start on Friday. We're going to have we're not going to miss meals. We're going to have really good heavy snacks. We're going to include a late night snack too to really make sure that that gas tank is topped off. OK, and then we go to bed. So when we go to bed, we're not really using the gas tank, right? then in the morning we're just going to top off that gas tank again and you're going to use that Jason Corley: Yeah, you're. Kaitlyn McNally: gas tank throughout the day. And ideally, you never want that gas tank to get empty. So you're going to be fueling in the dugout. You're going be fueling in between games. ⁓ got to fuel at night. You got to fuel Saturday night because now by ⁓ time you just played three or four games, your gas tank is probably like ⁓ ⁓ know, it's empty. But then you're expected to go play ⁓ couple of other games the next day. But your gas tank's empty. ⁓ So how is that possible? Jason Corley: Yeah, run on reserve. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: And so you do have to fuel and that's where it gets so hard because it's late and the kids just want to go to bed. like why also making sure that they're fueling during the day is so important so that they don't get behind. ⁓ if you're not, I mean they could have an empty gas tank if they're not fueling property, they could have an empty gas tank by the end of game one. ⁓ Jason Corley: You don't have to cram it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Right. So, you know, we want to make sure you're fueling throughout the day where then at night you don't have to go to bed having a big meal, but you had something, you know, and maybe it's I'm thinking some easy things that you could have at at the hotel instant oatmeal that you can pop in the microwave. Right. Like something that is a little bit heavier in the stomach, but it's you know, it's there. That's the one that just like popped into my head. Right. But Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: You know that you're not like going out and getting like a massive ⁓ ⁓ burrito bowl right like that's probably that's they probably don't even want that Jacob Moreno: or water burger at midnight. Jason Corley: the truth and what's the myth to, I mean, I think you've already answered this in the first five minutes of our conversation, but I guess going back to the early nineties, when we would have these spaghetti dinners the night before football games, that because of the carbs, right? So ⁓ assuming that coming back late to hotel and having any kind of Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Jason Corley: carbohydrate is gonna be good for the following day then. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes, yep, exactly. I always ⁓ tell me like ⁓ of like yeah back to the spaghetti dinners the night before right like there's a rhyme and reason around that ⁓ the body holds on to that the muscle actually holds on to those carbohydrates to use at a later time ⁓ that's just how the body works. So but it needs that time to fully digest to then use it so Jason Corley: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: if you've ever watched The Office and you have the clip in your head of Michael Scott eating the pasta dinner five minutes before his 5k, it doesn't work like that. OK, it needs more time. So you need it to have it the day before. But the one thing that I like to preference and kind of went back to, you know, it's not just about that dinner. You can't be skipping meals morning because in your head you're like, I'm have that spaghetti Jason Corley: Right, right. Right, right. Kaitlyn McNally: dinner later tonight, right? Like you gotta keep feeling, you gotta keep that gas tank up to speed, right? And the way that these athletes are expected to perform at a high level, I mean, I know a lot of high schoolers too that are training before school as well as after and their turn around, you know, getting home late, the turnaround is so quick that if they do skip a meal, they're already setting themselves up for failure because they never refuel. because their body's in this constant need of like for the next performance but also like recovering from the previous per ⁓ session ⁓ that's why like I mean ⁓ sure you guys know I mean skipping breakfast I've mentioned it a few times is like the number one thing that I work on with athletes ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay, all right. How important is it for, I know Jacob's got something, but I don't want to forget this. How, how, and Jacob's gonna hate this one. You bro, you're gonna hate this one. How important is it for parents to practice what they're trying to preach? Like it's probably pretty hard for a 12 year old to have ⁓ instant oatmeal when dad's smashing waffles. Jacob Moreno: Okay. Alright, go ahead, hit me with it. Yeah, you mean. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, I think that... Well, you know, I think that there's also, mean, middle school's a little hard because, you know, there's still like not a lot of maturity and understanding, but you just have to like, my performance goals are different than your performance goals. What you need to eat is different than what I need to eat. Jason Corley: You ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Boo yah. Jason Corley: Jacob's like, that's dumb writing that shit down right now. Yes. Okay. All right. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, we're clipping that part too. Kaitlyn McNally: You And I ⁓ I do think though like multiple ⁓ for a family is ⁓ difficult, right? Like I want to go home and make one meal, right? And breakfast, I'm making one meal. So like, ⁓ figure out something where we can like all eat, you know, and that's also what's important when, because a lot of times I am working with athletes that have siblings that are athletes, but those siblings have different performance goals and the parents have different goals, right? So it's like, okay, well, ⁓ meal, what one meal can we make? ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Kaitlyn McNally: You're, you know, tweaking it this way and you can have an extra scoop of protein here and you can have an extra scoop of rice here and you can, you know, then everyone's still like kind of making their own, ⁓ you're making at least one meal. ⁓ you know, and that's kind of where it's like, okay, well, we're, this what we're having for dinner, ⁓ but ⁓ dad I'm the parent and this is what I'm doing. So this is what my plate looks like and you're an athlete and you need to, you know, ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: And this is what your plate needs to look like, right? Like, but we're having the same meal. Jason Corley: Yeah, what? Go ahead, Jacob. Jacob Moreno: Okay. I do. Okay. So as we're talking, um, you know, dead of summer, we're getting ready for a tournament and you know, it's going to be hot that weekend. When should the athlete start increasing the water intake is the first question. Go ahead. Yeah. What? Yeah. What's the myth with that? What like two days before Jason Corley: Yeah, what's the miss with that reality? of hydration. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, think so. It's a hydration is different than carbohydrates. So we just talked about carbohydrates and how important it is to start having those carbohydrates like the day before. Really with hydration and like salt or like your sodium, you can't pre-hype like you can't. pre-hydrate ⁓ Jacob Moreno: So it's a myth. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: need to stay hydrated. ultimately, to be nitty gritty, is like just make sure your urine color, your pee color, is about pale yellow. Don't let it get any darker than that and you're hydrated. Jason Corley: Yeah. Well, I mean, because I think to Jacob's point, like if these kids have ever heard anything, they've heard drink, drink your water, hydrate, hydrate. I mean, these kids have been preached this since they were five because they're all athletes and they've all been in some sort of sport, whether it's T-ball or anything else, they've all always been. So they know that rule, but they also don't. don't know how many, I don't know how many of them know the actual reason for it because only a handful of them. Jacob Moreno: So when people... Kaitlyn McNally: Yes, yes. Jacob Moreno: you Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jason Corley: Brantley, maybe Angelice, he has, I think, once or twice, and Jimmy, I'm just talking about from our team, have experienced dehydration. Most of them do, but there's this thing of like you hear coaches all the time the night before or after the game, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. It doesn't affect you now, it affects you tomorrow. And these kids, it just goes in one ear and out the other. And as parents, is that reality? And is it really? Kaitlyn McNally: ⁓ dehydration. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Yes. Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Kaitlyn McNally: right. I mean, of course you want to hydrate beforehand, right? And you want to rehydrate after rehydrating is one of the keys to that recovery nutrition that I like to talk about. you know, it's not like we have to go and be like, OK, I'm to go drink a gallon of water now afterward. Right. It's really just OK. Every 15 minutes, take a sip of water like during. Right. It's kind of like every 15, you know, 20, 30 minutes taking a couple gulps of water that's going to keep you hydrated. You know in making sure just I mean of course you want to stay hydrated the day before ⁓ it's not something that you feel like you really need to push because ⁓ can still wake up the next morning dehydrated. Jason Corley: Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, okay, so. Kaitlyn McNally: You know, so like, know, where ⁓ the opposite ⁓ carbohydrates and energy where the body stores on to that carbohydrates use later on. It ⁓ hydration doesn't work that way. You can't ⁓ load. You can't water a ⁓ of carb load. ⁓ ⁓ way, ⁓ it's like just hydrate during the day, you know, and especially, I think ⁓ I your son is a catcher. Jacob Moreno: it just flushes through you instead of holding it. Jason Corley: Okay. Jacob Moreno: Yes. Kaitlyn McNally: You know, so then we like okay catchers like he's obviously experienced dehydration before very common with catchers because because of the extra gear that they're wearing so a lot of times will push additional and electrolytes ⁓ the day to that dehydration Jacob Moreno: you Okay, so that's what that was. That was my next question, because then you hear, you know, it was always Gatorade was good for you. Gatorade was good for you. Then all of a sudden you start hearing Gatorade's not good for you. then this whole Pedialyte kick comes in, which Mike, you know, Brantley loves. Brantley loves all the electric, they all, you know, any flavor, whatever. He'd rather drink that than Gatorade. But I guess, I mean, I guess you answered the question saying keep in Jason Corley: They all do. They all do now. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Jacob Moreno: running through him throughout the day. he, you know, one thing Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jason Corley: Well, I'm gonna piggyback on that, Jacob, because is it hydration mixed with the sodium or like, in your opinion, is it water or is it all the other alternatives? Because all these other alternatives, if you look at the side of a Pedialyte or Electrolyte, it's full of sugar, ⁓ is why the kids love it. Stoveen, it, tell us, tell us. ⁓ Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: sugar. Yeah. Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yep. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, and I saw that on your notes and I was like, you know practicing saying this so ⁓ like ⁓ so you have water and then you have like a Gatorade a which is yes. It has electrolytes. It has sodium in it It has sugar in it ⁓ and you have you know this huge wave of electrolytes that are just electrolytes like liquid IV and drip drop and I mean gate like Gator Lite I think is their electrolyte packet, you know ⁓ Jason Corley: You Jacob Moreno: Yep. Kaitlyn McNally: like that where it's just an electrolyte without sugar. ⁓ ⁓ talking ⁓ game planning ⁓ an athlete I say okay you know what is the purpose for each of these because each of them have a purpose throughout your day but is the best time to use them you know when I think so the biggest thing is a ⁓ catcher extra gear is gonna be a big ask or like what I'm gonna ask you know they're Position and what they're doing or if some athletes all athletes have different sweat levels their sweat content is different so ⁓ who's a heavy sweater you guys are baseball ⁓ right? So you're gonna see the sweat ⁓ around the head the back on lower back ⁓ the armpits things like that if you're noticing like not just sweat But if there's like ⁓ salty ⁓ around that they are very salty sweater in nature Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: need additional electrolytes. That's where those electrolyte packets are going to be crucial for them. Okay, is because I mean in or if it's like coming like sweats coming down their upper lip and they can taste it and it tastes salty they have a very salty sweater ⁓ ⁓ they need they need those electrolytes like and the Pedialyte and the Gatorade ⁓ has lot of sugar in it ⁓ now is Benefits ⁓ to ⁓ during game. ⁓ Okay, that keeps our energy up ⁓ and really Jacob Moreno: Okay. the upper loop. Jason Corley: that's brooks Jacob Moreno: That's Brantley. Kaitlyn McNally: important, but you know does someone Really need a full Gatorade plus all the snacks on the dugout You know you kind of just want to monitor the amount of sugar that they're having and just overall like what they're like how much game time or early playing time are they getting? You know, how much energy are they actually exerting? know, if they're a string player and they're just sitting on the bench, like do they need the full Gatorade with sugar in it? ⁓ Probably But an electrolyte pack, it's fine. ⁓ You if they want some flavor added to it, you know, and they want to make sure it's a hot day and things like that, you know, so I think there's just a purpose for all of it or if we have an athlete that's really has a lot of sensitivities like stomach sensitivities especially during those hot humid games maybe a Gatorade with an electrolyte packet is going to be their best bet because they know that that settles well with their stomach during those conditions. Jason Corley: You know, it's funny. It's funny you say that because we'll be playing in Texas at a tournament and we'll be, it'll be a Sunday and it'll be a hundred and what four on the turf, Jacob. And these kids don't even want to look, they don't even want to look at a Gatorade. They just want water at that point. You know what I mean? It's great. It's, it's funny to see how that progresses where there's some games and there's some events where Jacob Moreno: ⁓ it'll be, yeah, I mean, and the turf, the turf is 120. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. ⁓ No. Yeah. Right? Jacob Moreno: Uh-huh. Jason Corley: their exertion levels are different and they want they're like I don't want a water I want something with flavor and then you get to these moments where they have nothing left them and all it's like they're on the Sahara Desert and all they want is water they don't want anything with flavor less yes yes there such thing Kaitlyn is there such thing as bad fruits Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah Yeah. Jacob Moreno: It's like they see an oasis with water. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jason Corley: when it comes to act on it because i will say that i'm sure that word i'm sure that we don't even do it as well as most people out there but i would say that we have groups of moms that really really do a good job of make sure that route in our book out ⁓ and i just want to know is there such a is there such a thing as bad fruits that are hindering performance Kaitlyn McNally: I mean... Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Yes. I wouldn't say bad fruits. know, there's definitely fruits that have like ⁓ higher fiber content, ⁓ is like apples. ⁓ that could ⁓ lead to like some stomach issues for kids, you know, especially if they're like eating it while they're ⁓ to like ⁓ ⁓ know, or ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay. Great. Jacob Moreno: playing. Jason Corley: Yeah, I'm talking about in between innings. Yeah, I mean, I'm talking in between innings. In between pizzas. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it could be, but some people, know, like I like to me, I've been eating apples my whole life, like that fiber in the apples, it doesn't mean anything to me. Right. So it's very like dependent on the athlete, you know, especially during or in between games. You just want something easy to consume, flavorful hydrating. like those melons and the watermelon and all that is always so good because it has that dual purpose of hydrating as well. Jason Corley: Sure, sure. Kaitlyn McNally: as those simple carbohydrates that provide the body with energy. Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Jacob Moreno: What about pineapple and grapefruit? Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Yeah. Grapefruit's a little acidic. don't know. if like people have I love grapefruit. But if people have like heartburn, I don't know. I'm sure like a 12 year old probably doesn't have heartburn. I you know, if they're having like heartburn or acid reflux or something like that, like grapefruit probably wouldn't be the best. But like it's so dependent. Right. So ⁓ I say, you know, all these like very personalized recommendations, ⁓ like, OK, well, ⁓ you have a grapefruit? fruit like two months ago when you were practicing like and did it bother you then you'd not nothing expect a 12 year old to remember that but you know maybe the my point is like not trying something new the day that you're gonna go play four games right like if you've never had a grapefruit before and you're gonna have a grapefruit before four games like I probably I like wouldn't recommend that Jason Corley: Right. Right. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, I only asked that because... Yeah, I only ask that because Brantley eats a grapefruit in the morning before games. Jason Corley: heard you. Kaitlyn McNally: And so he's used to that, right? So like, and as long as it's never bothered him, like, that's good. a teammate may have a completely different reaction. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: ⁓ I have- How much or how, and I don't want to get too much into the puberty side of it, but I do want to ask this question. Does ⁓ nutrition and the lack of nutrition or the emphasis on nutrition, can that play any kind of a role in ⁓ puberty levels and development of kids going through it? Because we're in that age where it's hitting right now, Macdavid's in place. So like, is there things that we're doing Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, it's hitting. Jacob Moreno: Yup. Jason Corley: that are hindering the puberty development or there are things that we're doing that are speeding it up? Is that possible? that scientifically possible? Kaitlyn McNally: Not in all the research that I've done. No, there's nothing specific when it comes to nutrition that would hinder or promote during these puberty stages. The number one thing that I always like to tell parents, because a lot of times they come to me and they're like, we want our kid to be stronger. We want them to be bigger. They're small for their age or they're small compared to the rest of their team. And, you know, it's so hard for this age group. males and females because everyone's experiencing puberty at different levels at different stages at different rates. So. Jason Corley: Jacob, got to ask her, Jacob, don't forget to ask her about Northern and Southern hemisphere. Don't remember that. Remember how you were going to ask her, like, remember we were going to ask somebody before she finishes this about, how about kids that live in Southern States? They seem to be like they're in the sun. Yes. All right. So go ahead, Kaitlyn. Finish. Kaitlyn McNally: Gosh ⁓ gosh and Jacob Moreno: ⁓ Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Kaitlyn McNally: ⁓ okay, I know where you're going with that. so, but what the biggest thing, know, kind of think of like high schoolers, right? Like if a high school freshman looks completely different than a high school senior, right? There's a reason for that is because ⁓ way the hormones work throughout the stages of puberty is that, especially for a male, ⁓ ability to gain weight, to gain muscle ⁓ not occur until that fifth stage of puberty. ⁓ Right now I think as a paint there are five stages of puberty for both males and females and once you're taught once Yeah Jason Corley: So there's stages. This is why there's two dads asking these questions, bro, because we didn't know. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes, and you know, you can talk to the pediatrician about it and to make sure they're on track with those stages of puberty. But ⁓ the biggest thing is like when I am ⁓ with parents and working is like, ⁓ you are you at your fifth stage? And we kind of go through what that looks like. They've pretty much hit their growth spurt at that point, and their voice has already changed. ⁓ you can really tell when they're kind of like done with puberty. And then it's like, Jason Corley: How do you know? How do know what stages you're in? Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Okay, and they'll start being bottomless pits mean ⁓ kids are but like really like they probably hit ⁓ growth spurt ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay. eating you out of the house. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes, like truly, right? And so then at that point, the body and the hormones have truly shifted into kind of like that adulthood and they can gain muscle and they can really put on the weight that you see happens in, you know, most of the time you see like that big change from like freshman year to senior year, right? Like you see those changes, it's because they've completed those stages, their hormones are at a mature level and that's what allows them to really gain that muscle mass and Jason Corley: So why do you see 11, and 12 year olds in the gym lifting weights then if they're not even in stage two of puberty yet, ⁓ trying to put on weight? Kaitlyn McNally: Well, I think there's a lot of merit to really like from my perspective, it's not necessarily to get like at that age is not necessarily to get stronger. You can still get stronger if you're not like gaining muscle, right? But really like, I don't know. I'm also ⁓ because my husband's ⁓ strength coach. But ⁓ think at that age, it's really just about like proper movement ⁓ like getting them to understand like what that looks like and helping them with coordination. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: You too, Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: And you know, I see a lot of times like... one one of the facilities that I've worked with They ⁓ still weights with their middle school group But they're doing a lot of like shifting of directions, right? and that like short sprint work and plyometrics and jumping and things like and I like that style especially for the younger age group ⁓ I think that ⁓ you're starting to understand the way your body moves and that movement you can still get stronger at a young age but it just looks different as you get older. Or is it to take your money and make you believe something? Jacob Moreno: Okay. Jason Corley: Go Jacob, ask. Yeah, I don't Jacob Moreno: I do have a question. what Jason brought up was him and I had the discussion and this was, you know, it popped in my head. You know, when we go down South and play them kids from the South and even West always seem to be, you know, a lot bigger than our boys and get there faster. And I asked Jason, you know, I said, I wonder if it's because they get the constant warmth and sun. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Jason Corley: going through it fast. Jacob Moreno: you know, that vitamin D from being outside. Jason Corley: Like, is there any science for this? Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. So there's a, don't, ⁓ know, I haven't looked at it in terms of like actual growth and development when it comes to vitamin D, but overall health, having really good vitamin D levels is like ⁓ beneficial. And so I'm the North as well, pretty much I've lived my entire life in the North. ⁓ So I it. ⁓ And was interesting because I even talked to my, you know, ⁓ I'm about it even talked to my doctor and you know, it's not even like, ⁓ had to special request my vitamin D levels. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, live in New England and I just spent six months in like snow, ⁓ a snow blizzard. ⁓ like, it's like... ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I think you know what my levels are. Kaitlyn McNally: Like well, why do I have to special request it like I haven't seen the Sun in six months like I think that like it should just be part of it and like we need to have this conversation, you know, and I'm like knowledgeable and I'm like I need to take vitamin D but yeah, it's very interesting because I don't feel like yeah, there's really that conversation like there's so much research and like great research that backs up the importance of vitamin D and like why is why are the doctors not talking about it in the office? You know, I'm like I think there's maybe like a little Jason Corley: Yeah. Right. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: Okay, Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn McNally: connect there hasn't really like trickled in yet. Jason Corley: Kaitlyn, this is my ADD kicking in full fledged right now, but I have a question for you. How like Jake was going to laugh at me, but like seriously, how, how do we putting the sun in a capsule? Like, how are we doing? How are we putting, why are you laughing? How are we putting the sun in a capsule and taking it? Like how, how do you replace? Well, what, which is, ⁓ the sun ray, isn't it? Jacob Moreno: Hahaha! Kaitlyn McNally: So it's not the Sun it's vitamin D Jacob Moreno: And it's the same thing, right? Well, no, they said if you really look at it, can get vitamin D from Sunny D. Kaitlyn McNally: Well, yes, yes, but... Yeah. Jason Corley: Yeah, okay. right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious. You just brought that up. And I know it's like my cabinet is full of shit. And I'm just trying to figure out like, wait a minute, like how is there is there literally a bunch of minions out there in capsules, like gathering sun rays? Like, what is this? How do you do this? You're not getting, Hey, when they're lying to you, you're spending your money and you're not, you're just, it's a capsule full of air. Kaitlyn McNally: So... yeah. Yes. No. you I know, probably. Probably not. So is so funny. ⁓ like, this ⁓ well, ⁓ dieticians are very, ⁓ well, no, very nerdy. ⁓ So like, didn't have just ⁓ one, I like ⁓ two classes ⁓ vitamins in So ⁓ yeah, ⁓ undergrad and a graduate ⁓ class, I'm vitamins. ⁓ Jason Corley: I'm out. Jacob Moreno: Hahaha Jason Corley: I got her. I got her, Jacob. I got her. Okay. Hey. Okay. Jacob Moreno: Hehehehehe Jason Corley: So vitamin we have the ability to actually produce vitamin D. Kaitlyn McNally: So the sun is the most efficient vitamin D source. ⁓ Dairy products and green leafy vegetables also have a lot of vitamin D in them, but you need a lot. You need a lot of like those veggies and stuff to like orange juice. the sun's the most efficient way. ⁓ Jason Corley: ⁓ okay. Alright, okay. Jacob Moreno: Cool. Jason Corley: well that doesn't make any sense jacob that doesn't make any sense yeah because i would say that what Jacob Moreno: Really? Jason Corley: No, but what I'm saying is our theory of people that live in the southern states and western states is gone doesn't make any sense because people that in the north live on cheese and milk. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah, no, it does. Yeah Jacob Moreno: in this. Kaitlyn McNally: ⁓ well, yeah. But it's not as efficient. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, but I don't think, but she just said you gotta consume, she said you gotta consume a lot of it for you to get it, where them guys are just going outside, you know, going to school and all, you know what I'm saying? And yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. They're just outside 12 months a year. ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah. It just seems like when you play these teams from the South and from the, we're going to say Texas, yeah, Texas, California and Florida. It seems like they're are going through and are, are going through, they're in their second or third stage of puberty already at age 12. And we just wondered, is there any science that backs up that. Right. Right. Jacob Moreno: The West. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Jacob Moreno: Florida Kaitlyn McNally: Hmm. Jacob Moreno: And our kids are scratching at stage one still. Kaitlyn McNally: Right. Yeah, that's so interesting because I've actually had a conversation about this with someone else and it wasn't like... It wasn't it's not scientific at all, but I lit so I live two hours from Boston We I live like very rural. I mean not very raw. I think it's very raw ⁓ town And we know a lot of people in Boston and they say that the kids just grow up faster in the right? so I think there may be like and it just kind of got me thinking it was like, ⁓ you know, it because ⁓ Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: there's a way the way of life too is to encourage kids to start sports faster. mean it right and like they're just pushing you know the idea in the south is really just like sports. I mean it is everywhere but like it's just I mean the whole Friday Night Light thing is like I mean Texas made that known right like so I always just wonder if it's just like the way of the life of the community is to like have Jason Corley: Survive. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: kids mature faster than really their age and I don't know how that would relate to puberty but that kind of gets me thinking right like Jacob Moreno: I mean, you never know, they mature faster. It might trigger something in the body. Jason Corley: Yeah, I mean, that could be mental. Yeah, it could be, it could be something in the brain that triggers the process because you're, you're right. You're conditioned mentally to grow up faster, to be more mature because you got us whatever. mean, it doesn't, but there could be something neurologically that triggers the physical side of, we don't know if there's somebody out there listening that can explain this to us and tell us that yes, there was science that was done in this. That'd be awesome. Cause Jacob and I have wondered this. We're like, why is it whenever we place Texas teams? Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, starting puberty. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I know. Jason Corley: Those kids are 50 pounds heavier than all of our kids and some of them have mustaches. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. So, okay, so the other thing is you mentioned to like classification. I was also speaking with ⁓ ⁓ well, she's like my age and she's a preschooler. ⁓ And like, we're not sending our kid to kindergarten until they have a May birthday until that child's six. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: comes back to reclassing Jacob. Kaitlyn McNally: looked at her because my son's a May birthday and I would never consider holding him back because I need that kid in school as soon as possible. I was like, oh, so why are you choosing him? She's like, well, you know, we're come from a sport family, so we want him to be bigger. I... Jason Corley: Yeah. Jacob Moreno: hahahaha Jason Corley: you Jacob Moreno: Mmmmm Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's real. It's real. It's real. And I'll Kaitlyn McNally: I was just, I ⁓ okay. Okay. Because in my head, I'm like, it's like a maturity thing, right? I know she literally like said, she's like, I'm ⁓ him back so that he is the biggest kid in his class so he can be good at sports. ⁓ Jason Corley: It depends on. Jacob Moreno: It is, mean, ultimately. Ultimately that's how know, Brantley should really be in sixth grade, but he's in seventh and we get told all the time hold him back Keep him, you know reclass him that way. He's a year older a year wiser a year bigger stronger and more mature Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm also going to tell you this too. And that is, is all right. So this thing that Trump just did with the five year thing, you know, he just, he signed this thing into law and he's with the NCAA. saw this Jacob, right? Okay. So Trump just had in urban Meyer. and some, was like five or six different college coaches. Okay. He had him in a panel and they're trying to get guardrails on the NIL stuff and Trump's like, okay, screw it. I'll do it. So he. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Jacob Moreno: No, I did not. I must've missed it. Kaitlyn McNally: ⁓ Jason Corley: Trump just signed the law of five years max eligibility for college players. Okay. Five years max. And the fifth year you only get if you graduate. So really it's four and you have the stipulation is you only get your fifth year if you graduate. And he said, said, he said, listen, I'm signing it into law. I know that the courts will, fight this. He's like, but at least, at least we're getting the ball rolling to have the conversation, which is all anybody ever proved. Whether you disagree with it or agree with it, somebody's trying to figure something out. Kaitlyn McNally: ⁓ mm-hmm. Jacob Moreno: Okay. for Kaitlyn McNally: interesting okay Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Jason Corley: Well, we're having the conversation tonight at Brooks's birthday, me and my brother-in-law, and we were talking about this because he used to be the principal at the high school, ⁓ he also has dealt with a lot of kids that have went on to play college sports. And we find this fascinating because if you think reclassing is a big deal now, well, ⁓ going to get worse because who's going to want their 17-year-old to then be a freshman if you only got five years to make it work? You don't want to waste two on the bench somewhere. Jacob Moreno: It's gonna get even worse. Yep. Jason Corley: So now you're going to reclass them so that they're graduating at 19 so that they're more ready for their freshman year of college athletics. I just, it's, it's, Kaitlyn, it's a, the reclassing is a fascinating world. It's a fascinating conversation because you can argue both sides of it. I literally live with two, I have an eight year old that should be in second grade, but he's in third grade. So, I mean, I could, and he also struggles in school and Kaitlyn McNally: Mm. interesting. Yeah. Jason Corley: You know, I so it makes all it makes all the sense in the world for us to do it. But then for the older one, it makes no sense because he's a straight A student and he excels at everything he does. So there are arguments for both sides of it. I don't I don't choose a side. I don't really I don't I don't have an opinion on it yet because I'm not at seventh grade where I have to make this decision yet. Not yet. But it is a fascinating conversation and it is a fascinating debate. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm rape. Yeah. Got it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jason Corley: because it meant if you look at our comments on our videos jacob there i mean still to this day everything is about reclassing everything is about lasting so it's a it's a very very touchy subject when it comes to parents because there are parents out there without a doubt and they're open with it they're specifically planning out their child's athletic future based on when they're going to enter them into in the kindergarten Jacob Moreno: It's everything's about reclassing. Kaitlyn McNally: Wow. Jacob Moreno: touchy subject. Mm-hmm. Kaitlyn McNally: crazy ⁓ any yeah any more nutrition questions and then I can kind of ⁓ ⁓ Jason Corley: Yes, before we get going, I want to ask you one more thing before we say goodbye. What is your take on this creatine push? Kaitlyn McNally: Okay, yes. So, so two specific things actually have crossed my desk recently. So one with creatine. So first off, the creatine is one of the most researched supplement when it comes to not only performance, but a lot of other things. There's a lot of development with creatine and like ⁓ Alzheimer's, memory loss community as well. So ⁓ is extremely researched and it's extremely effective. Now here's my caveat ⁓ with is that really no one should really be taking it unless they have talked to ⁓ dietitian, a doctor, athletic trainer, etc. Because ⁓ is some ⁓ history stuff that we just want to be aware of that ⁓ ⁓ when it comes to like liver and kidney functions. If there's any health history, ⁓ history with issues with that, we just want to, you know, we would... Jason Corley: It can be triggered. Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: Maybe pushback depending pushback on creatine usage. The thing is is that kind of going back to that puberty sense is that it's not gonna be as effective. the idea of creatine is to increase muscle mass. That the purpose of it and it does a really great job at it. want ⁓ focus on at their nutrition as a whole. ⁓ Are they eating meals and snacks day? Are they getting in plenty of carbohydrates? Are they even ⁓ fueling their body the level of that they're ⁓ right now. And then ⁓ that supplement kind of like the protein is ⁓ as a supplement right like we want to make sure your nutrition is at a really good point first ⁓ we're adding in these supplements. One of the phrases I've heard before and I this a lot mostly when I was with college athletics is you can't out supplement ⁓ bad diet. Jason Corley: Okay, okay. Kaitlyn McNally: So you can't just put all of these supplements if you're still going through the drive through, you're still skipping meals, if you're still, you know, having, you know, not good nutrition, but you're adding all these supplements. It doesn't work that way. We want to prioritize nutrition in real food ⁓ and then we look at those other components ⁓ supplements. ⁓ really, I would not ⁓ it ⁓ at least eight. Jacob Moreno: Hmm. Kaitlyn McNally: I'm sorry 16 years old. And then the other one and I saw a comment on your video of tagging this company is on thread performance. Yes, so Jason Corley: Okay, okay, awesome. what? Yeah. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: I do Jason Corley: Yes, I saw that too. Saw that too. Kaitlyn McNally: am very hesitant about that too. I do think that that's very much a money grab. don't want to bad mouth anyone, but they're really pushing supplements for a very young age group. And I just, I don't like that marketing, to be honest. Jason Corley: We get those a lot. Yeah. Is that the company that does the creatine gummies for kids that look like... Kaitlyn McNally: Didn't I didn't I see theirs is mostly like energy and focus related ⁓ But it's kind of that same thing if they're using like a lot of like words that like all of us would be like ⁓ more energy. ⁓ more focus right like ⁓ my my athlete needs that Yeah, but it's like right I've looked at the nutrition label. It's not bad. It's not harmful, but it's very gimmicky ⁓ Jason Corley: Okay. Okay. So, car... car function. Sure, sure, sure, sure. ⁓ first of all, how can parents find you and how do help? Just us quickly about your service and how people can find you. Kaitlyn McNally: And that's how I kind of view it. Jacob Moreno: Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Yes! Yeah, absolutely. So we really can find all my information on my website. So youthsportsnutrition.com. I have a couple free guides for you guys. on my email list. have emails with nutrition tips, recipes, deals my services, going out weekly. And my number one service ⁓ is, like number two ⁓ services one-on-one nutrition coaching as well ⁓ as, that's working one-on-one with an athlete a few different packages for that. ⁓ then another one that I love, it's one of my personal favorites, is virtual team presentations. And that one is my favorite. I get to work with a group of... team for 60 minutes. do a presentation that's personalized to their sport. Parents listen in. They come with questions. We do a fun little activity and they all leave learning something and they all leave with one goal of what they're going to change that week when it comes to nutrition. that's the one. I'll you guys a discount for any of the services if you guys mention this podcast. just I have a form Jason Corley: Boom. Kaitlyn McNally: on my website but my email and all that is on my website but ⁓ if you guys mentioned the podcast we'll give you a nice little discount on one-on-one and team nutrition yeah yeah it's mostly just word of mouth ⁓ see but yes TV ⁓ Jason Corley: TDP. Hey, Kaitlyn, just do a TDP 15 or TDP whatever. So Travel That's Podcast, TDP. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, it's funny because I know that when I posted the video and then you and I connected instantly, I told her this, that as soon as we connected, well, actually before we connected, I don't know if anybody knows this. I don't know if, Jacob, I told you or not. I went to Grok. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: And I asked Grok to find me new, a youth sports nutritionist. Okay. I have it. I have the screenshot. She was the number one thing that came back on Grok. I swear to God. And then, and then we just connected. Yeah. Grok is AI. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That's, that's Twitter's form ⁓ chat. GPT. Yeah. Grok is Twitter. Yeah. So, and I told her, was like, just so you know, you were the number one. Jacob Moreno: Go. Kaitlyn McNally: Wait, and that's AI, right? That's AI tool, right? Yeah. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Okay, got it, got it, okay. Like, I don't know what that is. Jacob Moreno: Chad GBT. Jason Corley: You were the number one response for Grok to give me of who I should reach out to. here we are talking. So it was, yeah, I was stoked about it because it made me look smart and it made us look like we were super popular because, huh, how about them apples? She's just right there. So we'll listen. Thank you so much. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes, yes and I have a lot of blog posts on my website too one of them is specific for nutrition and baseball. or I'm sorry, softball and baseball. you will, ⁓ know, ⁓ that. Jason Corley: Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, I would say that what I took out of this the most is, is number one, the, the protein in the, in the creatine stuff, really it, it honestly, for, for what I take of it, it's kind of pointless until we get to those stages of puberty that where it's yeah. Yes. Right. But the biggest thing is, is bro, we get Jimmy John's. We get Jimmy John's. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Jacob Moreno: of Purity, Stage 5. Yeah. Yeah. Jason Corley: We can have all the Jimmy, they can have all the Jimmy Johns they want in between these games. Like that they are going to be so stoked when they hear that. Kaitlyn McNally: Yes. Mm-hmm. you know what I'll do. ⁓ this actually just reminded me ⁓ ⁓ I do have a and I'll ⁓ email it ⁓ and Jacob I'll email it to you guys, but I'll up a code for my Jason Corley: You have a Jimmy John's coupon? Kaitlyn McNally: my guide. It's a parents guide to travel nutrition. ⁓ I have a lots of examples in there and it's all it talks about how to navigate traveling and the nutrition. So I'll send you guys that guide and then I'll set up a discount code for that. Jason Corley: Please. Okay. Okay. Okay, good, because we have definitely. Jacob Moreno: the Do you? Jason Corley: Okay, because we definitely had some moms. I had a couple different moms that commented and then once in a DM, please ask them about traveling and help with traveling with, you know, with nutrition and stuff like that. And then obviously, you know, with picky eaters that on the road, but we talked about picky eaters are just a, but I mean, you can't shop for another parent. I mean, we don't know every parent and every kid is different. I understand the question, like, but at the same time, Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm. Jacob Moreno: Pick eaters, yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Mm-hmm. Yes, pick eaters. No. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: picky eater is a picky eater and only you know what your kid is gonna eat I can tell you to have instant oatmeal but he might he might hate the texture of that in his mouth so I have no idea so you know but ⁓ Kaitlyn thank you thank you thank you you you thank I yes thank you for coming on thank you for giving us your knowledge and ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Kaitlyn McNally: Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'll send you guys that guide and I'll set up a discount code. Jacob Moreno: Thank you. Okay, thank you so much for being on. Kaitlyn McNally: Thank you. Yes, Jacob, hope the dietitian that your son is working with is, I'm him good vibes. ⁓ Yeah. Jacob Moreno: If not, I'm coming to you. If not, I'm coming to you. So thank you. Jason Corley: And if not, we know somebody. All right, Kaitlyn, have a great night and thank you so much for your time. Okay. Kaitlyn McNally: Thank you so much. Have a good one. Jason Corley: Okay. All right, man, Jimmy Johns. Jimmy Johns. Yeah, yeah, it was all right. Jacob Moreno: That was good. That was good. Yeah, Jimmy John's. Jimmy John's, no water burger with a large sweet tea at midnight no more. Jason Corley: Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's I was, yeah, I guess I, I guess I kind of, I was anticipating her responses. So I kind of, I could tell right off the bat kind of that she was pretty much by the book. Um, you know, there was, I, I don't know. I mean, not that, not that I want it, not that you can really be creative, but I do think I stumped her on the vitamin D question though. I think I got her. I think, I think I had her. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. I think you did. And I think I got her with the, I think I got her with the North and South too though. Yeah. ⁓ for sure. Jason Corley: think we got her thinking. I think we got her thinking. ⁓ yes, I think two, I think two dumb dads got her thinking really. How do we get the vitamin D from the sunlight down to the Capitol into? But, yeah, no, I, ⁓ I would say that, that what I took out of that, conversation, I really, I don't know. I feel, I feel like we left a lot on the table. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Jason Corley: Uh, feel like there were a lot of things that I think scientifically, um, we, we just, I don't think she can give us those answers because she's not a doctor. You know what I mean? Like she made sure that I didn't, she made sure our phone conversation, don't call her doctor cause she's not a doctor, but she has a master of science and she's a dietician, but there's a big difference between that and a pediatrician. You know what I mean? Um, so Jacob Moreno: Yeah, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jason Corley: There's, there was things that I left on the table that I know that she just can't answer because she can't give that advice like legally. Yeah. Yeah. But, ⁓ I don't know. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. mean and Yeah Yeah, I was the same way with you, you know going through going through the message well, not the message the Questions. Yeah the notes. I was like, ⁓ like okay. I know some of these I want to see what her take is and I was like, ⁓ okay, we we were almost Like by the book. Yeah, mean Jason Corley: notes yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Jacob Moreno: which, I mean, she was still helpful and insightful. Jason Corley: Yeah, and we didn't get through like, so Jacob and I have this, we have this list of snacks that we wanted to ask her about, but like she answered that list of snacks in the conversation where she, you know what mean? Where the sugars in the carbs are not bad. So we'll that's half my list. Like I literally have, you know what I mean? So the granola bars and stuff like that, none of it, you know, I didn't hear her. Did you hear her say anything about what we're doing that's bad? Like, you know I mean? Jacob Moreno: Yup. ⁓ huh. No, she said no, she said nothing. just, the only thing she said was stay away from the fried food at Concession State. Jason Corley: That's right. She did. But here's what I heard. Here's what I heard though. Okay. What I heard was carbs and salt. Well, what is that, bro? What is the number one thing? So let concessions stand. Let's talk soft pretzels, soft pretzels loaded with that salt. So, I mean, here it was. I'm thinking that that was like an absolute, you know, a killer for the boys because it was just, you know, draining them here. It is. That's, that's just a, it's a, it's an energy. Jacob Moreno: Petsos. It's actually good. Jason Corley: Yeah, it's actually not that bad. ⁓ I don't know. don't think those, mean, the pretzels, yeah, that's just now granted. don't know what the damn dough was made of. mean, it could be but, I still, I don't feel like I got, I don't feel like I got a very, I feel we could have spent a lot more time on this conversation of giving us. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think this is probably a two, three hour conversation. Jason Corley: I think so too, man, because I was looking for specific ideas of what to do at night the night before I was looking for meal ideas. And it's like. Jacob Moreno: So was I. That was one big thing that I was... That was one big thing because sometimes it's hard for Bradley because I don't really want to give him a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at 9, 9.30. Oh, you see, he will, but I'm not giving him something. I feel like peanut butter's heavy at 9, 9.30 at night before you go to bed. Jason Corley: My kid won't eat that. My kid's not gonna eat Yeah, I don't know. And it's just like, you know, like another thing, like my kid's not going to wake up and drink a smoothie. Like my, my kid's hungry. Like, no, I'm no, but I'm saying this is the, you know what mean? Like, this is the thing. Like your, kids different than my kid. And you know what my kid wants in the He wants to go to Hardee's and he wants to get a salmon roll. That's what he wants. Right. That's what he wants. That's what he wants. And, but broach is completely different. Right. So it's just, ⁓ would have liked to have spent more time with. Jacob Moreno: Ooze. You see? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, no, cause... Get a Cinnabon. And my kids like, ugh, yeah. Jason Corley: somebody that could give us more ideas, I guess you could say, or give us more ⁓ of different options that we haven't tried for these days of games. just feel, I feel like we just got, you know, a slap the back of like, yeah, you're doing just fine. What's it doing? Right. Jacob Moreno: Yeah. I wonder... The shell. The shell of what we didn't get the inside. Jason Corley: Nah, nah, I almost, I almost want to talk to a chef. I almost want to have a chef on here that deals with athletes and can give us. Jacob Moreno: with youth, are you, yeah? Jason Corley: You know what mean? Like maybe get a chef on here that could say, Hey guys, this is what we cook for athletes at. don't bro. I'm telling you right now, something is going on in this house. I smell, I smell brownies and I don't know if it's cause we're talking about this shit or what, or if Lindsay's making, she thinks she's making snacks for tomorrow with Brooks to take to school. Yeah, ⁓ bro. It's like, ⁓ Jacob Moreno: No, your wife's proud. Your wife's down there making brownie. And you're ready to go downstairs and smash them Jason Corley: I'm like, if this microphone could pick up the growling that's going on right now, it's out of control. ⁓ But yeah, I think, you know what, might be because got inundated with a lot of people. Once I put the call out, there was a lot of people that started tagging us with different nutritionists and dieticianists. And then the affiliations with, you know, this, ⁓ company that sells this and this company that sells that. ⁓ of just, I kind of now, like, I think I just talked myself into wanting to talk to a chef. Jacob Moreno: So. Yup. Jason Corley: that knows how to cook creative shit that fuels athletes. hey, could you just give us 30 minutes of your time and tell us meal options that we could do the night before that we know is gonna be in their bloodstream by 11.30 the next morning? So, I don't know, ⁓ Maybe I'm wrong. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Mm-hmm. Yep, I agree. mean, I agree with you on that. ⁓ Yeah, kinda wanted to go more in depth. Jason Corley: I know me too. Me too. I did too. Jacob Moreno: But like I said, maybe this is a, this is a probably two, three hour conversation. And maybe we do, maybe we try to get a chef from a university. Jason Corley: Yeah. Yeah, and maybe. Yeah, I would, I would love, or I mean, the chef of a star, like, you know, I mean, like who's like, was literally was just getting ready to say Tiger Woods is chef, but that would be probably not a great idea right now. It's this time of time, but like, I mean, like there's chefs out there that work at universities. There's chefs out there that work with, you know, high profile athletes. And I mean, if somebody wanted to come on and bless us with 30 minutes of their time to just say, Hey, you know, like, Jacob Moreno: No. No. Jason Corley: for all those picky eaters out there. Like you can take this, like for instance, I'll just give you, for instance, the gut, the protein bar, the protein balls that Lindsay makes, like that's an Amish thing. It's protein ball. Yeah. The protein balls and everybody go, they're like, they're like little balls of crack that everybody loves, but they're, protein balls. But now I'm finding out, well, the proteins aren't really that like they're, they should be full of dough. I mean, they should be dumplings is what it sounds. Jacob Moreno: I was gonna say, I meant to say that and I forgot. Yes. Yeah. No, don't think she was saying this should be full of dough, but I think the peanut butter in it with the honey and oats, because I mean, that's like eating an oatmeal with the oats. You know what I mean? Jason Corley: Yeah, I don't know what Lindsey puts it. So Lindsey puts, yeah, Lindsey puts Lindsey puts, is it? It's, granola. Well, it's granola, right? It's granola, peanut butter ⁓ mini chocolate chips and honey ⁓ ⁓ other herb in in there. And she called their, their little protein balls and she makes them, she makes them with a ice cream scoop and she makes them. Jacob Moreno: Granola, okay, that's what I meant, yeah. honey. They're so good. Jason Corley: They're stupid. They're really, really, really bad. Like they're, they're, they're just so good. They're bad. And it's like, have our coaches now. Right. And you can hammer them out. Yeah. A whole pan of them, but, it's stuff like that. It's stuff like I would love. I would love creative ideas to be able to give HUD in between games or Brooks, because like we talked about, you know, I got two, I got kids on two different sides of the aisle here, man. Yeah, bro. And it's just, it's tough, but. Jacob Moreno: Yeah, because you probably should only eat one or two and here we are eating a whole pan of them. Yeah. both spectrums, yeah. Jason Corley: Whatever. mean, we're not going to, I just, feel like, I feel like today was, I feel like today was a B for us. Like, I feel like we've had some A's. I feel like today was a B. Jacob Moreno: Yep. You know what she didn't mention though? Jason Corley: What's that? Jacob Moreno: She didn't ever say as adults, we can't have a nice little pour of bards down her Green River whiskey. ⁓ Jason Corley: No, no, that was definitely, we did not get to, I was wondering if she was going to bring up like, well, here's something that you, and I thought maybe she might tap into this when I said, important is it for us to practice what we preach as there's Ardstown right over my shoulder right here. thought for sure she was going to throw it in my face. Like, well, you probably shouldn't be, you know, ⁓ yourself a pool of Ardstown, but yeah. ⁓ yeah, no, I just, I, I also. Jacob Moreno: Uh-huh. Yep. Right here. Jason Corley: I think that it's, I think that she nailed it. She nailed it on the head when she said our, like our performance levels are different. Your video was fuzzy at the time when she said that, but I didn't know if you went like, but I didn't know what you, didn't know if you, I didn't know if you were eating me or what. Yeah. But she, ⁓ yeah, I, ⁓ Jacob Moreno: That's all I got from it. Mic drop. I went, I went bow. Jason Corley: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I wasn't going to bring up, you know, like, you know, the teething aspect of life and you know, back when, know, we were teething and my grandma would put, you know, whiskey in the, you know, on the pacifier, make me suck on it to numb my mouth and my face all up. But, ⁓ yeah. ⁓ have you, did you get any of the honey in yet? Cause I haven't, I haven't had a chance to try it yet. Okay. Well, I will put that on the, ⁓ I will put that on the short list. when I talked to him sometime tomorrow, Jacob Moreno: Whiskey. I haven't either. Jason Corley: I'll see him. I'll see him Saturday at the game. Yeah, I'll see him in this weekend at the game ⁓ ⁓ I'll Jacob Moreno: You'll see him this weekend. And hopefully he can bring us some of that. What's the one you found in Florida? In the glass case. Silver oak, yep. Jason Corley: silver oak, the silver oak. Yeah. So for Easter, did you see my Easter post with the barge down at Green River? Here's what I did. So I had the two smaller bottles of the expensive stuff. And then I had the big bottle of the middle shelf. Okay. So the, of the, of the blue collar, we'll call it the blue collar range, that $55 to $60 price range of the, of the Green River. And I wasn't Jacob Moreno: Yes, how was that? How did that go by? Yeah. Jason Corley: Bro, ⁓ I have to keep something for myself. So I took this two small ones and then the rye. I took the rye of the Green River and I put them in one Easter basket, because I have three brother-in-laws, okay? And I put them in one Easter basket and I was just like, you guys decide who gets what. You guys decide who gets who got the little ones and who got... So what they did is they... guys are jackasses. ⁓ they did is they took three... ⁓ Jacob Moreno: Yeah, off. Who got the little bottle? Jason Corley: three plastic eggs and they broke them in half and they put a different color egg on each top of the bottle. And then they put the other three halves in a bucket. And they drew eggs. And then, yeah, and we're sitting around. It was after dinner. Yes, it was after dinner. We waited till after dinner. we did it during the egg hunt. So kids are outside, adults are inside. Jacob Moreno: They drew. that's good. What'd tell you? Yup. Jason Corley: our, we had our own little egg hunt inside the living room with the colors for the bottles. And yeah. And, Ryan and, ⁓ Luke and Zach, they popped theirs and then they, it, it, you'd have thought we were some communion because everybody was trying each other's stuff. And, ⁓ So it went over, ⁓ went over well. So yeah, I was, ⁓ was fun. They were very appreciative and, you know, they, they, they are very thankful in my family. Jacob Moreno: and Yeah. I'm glad I did. Jason Corley: that we have an amazing partner like Bards down in Green River. My side is very thankful for this partnership. Jacob Moreno: Yep. No, so is mine. My side's very thankful too. side is thankful for Barstown and Grand River Whiskey. ⁓ Jason Corley: Grand River! ⁓ that was epic. ⁓ Jacob Moreno: just messing with our sponsors, Green River guys, I know. I learned my lesson from the first time. No, I mean, you know, the couple bottles I've, you know, the couple bottles I've gave out, you know, they're very appreciative and I gave my buddy a good one and he's like, I'm not opening it till you come over. He goes, we'll get cigars, you'll come over and we'll pop this. I was like, okay. So. Jason Corley: Yeah, yeah. So next week, I might be doing a podcast without you. Jacob Moreno: Okay. Jason Corley: ⁓ I don't know yet because I think I'm going to have to do it smack dab in the middle of the day. So, I think I'm going to be doing a podcast with a guy by the name of Ryan Boland who runs armor sports at our church. And, I be going up to church and doing it up there because they have partnered with NFL flag. This is like the third or fourth year that they do NFL flag with them. Jacob Moreno: Okay. Mm-hmm. Jason Corley: I am very interested to find out how, bro, how does this massive church integrate with NFL? ⁓ I know. does that, like how ⁓ did that, did that, how did that relationship start between church and flat out state? Jacob Moreno: I mean, we have it here too, man. We have it here. Because as long as, but, your church offers flag football, right? Jason Corley: Yeah, through the NFL. Jacob Moreno: before, no, before the NFL today. So I wonder if it went through, you know, I wonder if it went through, you know, the church looking for a flag football league to join and the NFL just popped up. Jason Corley: No, no, it's always been the NFL. Yeah. Yeah, but... I know, but I'm fascinated of how that relationship works. You know what I mean? When you have a, uh, a religious organization, you know what I mean? Or is this too, I have a feeling it's too completely separate. I, and that's probably why that building is in the back part of the property and not even at, so I just, so anyways, I don't think it's going to be a very long podcast, but I would love to give Ryan, you know, I would love to give, um, armor sports, love. Jacob Moreno: It's probably two separate entities. Yep. Okay. Jason Corley: because they're kicking off their spring soccer as well for kids. So I don't know how we'll do it. I don't know if we'll do this as like a podcast or if I'll do this as just like an, yeah, like an extra, like an extra behind the scenes, like an extra episode. I'm not really sure. I'm not sure because I also, like, I also want to be very, very respectful to me going to the church, having a conversation about how they integrate, how they use sports to bring families to church. Jacob Moreno: A Q &A. Okay. Jason Corley: but also be respectful to our sponsors. You know what I mean? Like I don't know. I don't know how I'm going to juggle this. Um, but I, I do want to, I do want to have a conversation with them. But so I don't know if we'll do maybe a bonus, like the consider this like a bonus thing. You know what I mean? Um, and the other thing too, is, that like where this is at, there's no internet. So we would have to just record it like on camera and then I'd have to bring it back and put it. Right. Yeah. So I, Jacob Moreno: Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. and then upload it and. Jason Corley: I don't know. just, this just happened tonight. The conversation just happened tonight. So I'll, you and I will talk more about this later, but if we do it, it's going to have to be like at 11 o'clock in the morning and you're going to be somewhere in Fort William, So yeah, we'll figure it out. I don't, it might not be possible. I hope it is, but, ⁓ I would love to give them some love because for those that don't know, and, and this would be a lot more of a local episode. Does that make sense? Jacob Moreno: Yeah, yeah, I'll be working so I won't be able to. Yeah. Jason Corley: This is, this would not be a national episode. This would be a local episode because this would impact families that are local with me. Yes. So that's why I'm also kind of like, I'm going to do a podcast. might have to do a podcast without you, but I don't really think it's going to be the podcast or a podcast. We'll see. But anyways, all right, man, listen, ⁓ let's get up. Yeah. You will not do one told Monday folks because Jacob explained to them how you interact with grand or grand grand river, grand park. Jacob Moreno: your community. Yeah. Yeah. we probably won't do another one until Monday. So we'll be out in Grant Park this weekend playing, but I come home. I come home. I do the travel back and forth. So we'll be out. So I won't have nowhere stable just to sit around and shoot. So Jason and I just, yeah. So we just said that, I mean, and you play late on Saturday anyways. Jason Corley: Yeah, he drives home every night. Yeah. And we can have podcast with you driving on the highway. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure we'll play late on Sunday. So, ⁓ you know, and plus, yeah, plus we're two hours. Yep. Yeah. So those of you looking for the episode Sunday morning or Sunday night, it's not going to happen. We're going to wait and do this one on Monday. I'm going to be ⁓ to tell everybody about our first time experience with, Jennings park. And then Jacob is going to have a chance to tell everybody how everything went after the first. Jacob Moreno: So, I mean, we'll just go ahead and chalk it up to Monday, Monday evening. On Monday. Jason Corley: You know, tournament in Georgia and how it didn't go so great. See how the boys bounce back and tell us about the level of competition you guys are seeing out of Indiana. So as we tell everybody about the level of competition we're seeing out of Columbus, cause we're going to be playing a couple of HUD's old friends in Bo Jackson. So that'll be interesting. So yeah, shout out to the Bobecks. Can't wait to see them. So anyways, but, ⁓ all right, man, let's go here. Okay. Love you. you. buddy. Jacob Moreno: Yep. Oh, nice, Yep. All right. All right. Love you. See ya. Bye. Love you. See ya. Bye.