C: book stuff first, finish the book, and then do our questions and just get through as many questions as we can. If we don't get through all of them, that's fine, but I figured we'd just get through as many of them as we can and go from there.

M: Righto.

C: Does that work for y'all? OK. All right. I don't even remember who introduced us last.

K: Thank you, dude.

C: Okay, do you want me to do it again or do you want to just do either of you want to do it?

K: I don't care.

C: Yes, we are doing 40 through 46. 40 through the end of the book, which yeah, is 46.

K: Okay, I can do it for you if you me to.

C: Go for it.

K: Sorry, I gotta get my nerves up. Every time. Okay.

C: Uh-huh ⁓

K: Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of Just Read It, MCKay?

M: Bye-bye.

K: and I'm Kay. In this episode, we are continuing our Akatari deep dive with chapters 40 through 46. Let's get into it.

M: Yay!

C: We get better and better each time.

K: Yeah.

M: Hey, your hair looks awesome by the way.

K: Thank you. I appreciate that.

C: rate? Is it blue? It is blue!

K: and it's like a purpley... it looks blue on screen but it's it's like a purple yeah

M: I love it.

C: It looks awesome. At first I couldn't tell if that was your shirt, but no, it's not. It looks great.

K: Mm-mm. Yeah, I've been putting it off forever and I finally was like, I'm just going to get it done. I got it done.

C: Yeah, just do it. Just do it.

M: Just do it, just read it, just clean it, all of it.

K: Yes.

C: Yeah, all of it. Just get it done. Awesome. OK. I wanted to mention something that I don't think we talked about last episode. ⁓ Crap, where was it? So when Rhysand comes to cell after Feyre's first task to heal her and make the bargain, he also talks about how Lucien was punished for her during that task. I can't remember if we talked about it in the last episode or not, but I wanted to bring it up because I feel like that theme continues through the end of the book. ⁓ We get Rhysand mentioning that as Amarantha is hurting Lucien for, know, punishing him for helping Feyre, Tamlin is begging her to stop. Like he is actively trying to do something to get Amarantha to stop hurting Lucien. And we know that she's hurt Lucien before because Tamlin didn't, you know, didn't agree with her, didn't go with her, yada, yada, yada.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: And I think this is something that we see more than we've talked about is Lucien and Tamlin kind of sticking up for each other. And I feel like it's a good thing for them because they have that friendship. But at the same time, we're seeing Tamlin has at this point not said anything, not helped Feyre, not done anything, you know, not begged Amarantha to not do anything to Feyre, whereas he has done it for Lucien

K: I remember reading that and I was like, well, he didn't do anything for a Feyre

C: Right? Yeah. And I want to point it out before we go into the last six chapters, because I think it's a reoccurring theme that we see through the end of the book. Let's jump in to Chapter 40. So we have Feyre's second task. ⁓ Feyre's second task, she is brought into the throne room. ⁓ I do find it amusing that Amarantha says, here, Feyre darling, the same term that Rhysand has used with Feyre. ⁓ and then she tells her, this is where you're going to find your first task. ⁓ asks, you know, if Feyre has figured out the riddle, which Feyre has thought about it a lot, but ends up just getting a headache every time she thinks about it. So she doesn't have an answer for the riddle hasn't figured it out yet. So Amaranth is like here I'll give you another riddle for your second task to try and like help you along. Of course, Feyre can't read so she can't see or well, I mean she can see the words on the wall, but she can't understand what they say because she only knows, you know, the basic words. Lucien is also in this area. They're both about to die if Feyre doesn't pick the right lever to pull. Thankfully, she has already made this bargain with Rhysand because he is the one who essentially helps her figure out which one it is. She goes for the second lever, which her reasoning for going to the second lever is like so stupid. Really? She's like, number one is just

K: Hmm?

C: That's too little. That's like, Amaranthas. She's all on her own. But number two, that's like me and Tamlin. And I'm just like, that's your reasoning. And number three is just too many. Okay. Anyway, she goes to reach for the second lever multiple times and feels a pain in her arm, goes to look up. Obviously, Rhysand is watching her and she kind of...

K: Mm. Mm-hmm.

C: gets the understanding that he is the one who's causing the pain because she's reaching with the tattooed arm. ⁓ I do think it's funny because when she looks at Rhysand, again, we have the description of she found a star-flect violet gaze. reference to the night court when we're talking about ⁓ features. ⁓ Lucien of course is yelling at her because he's also about to die. Finally, she does not grab the second one. Is going grab the first one? Is it the first one?

M: third. ⁓ no, yeah, she does second twice and then it goes to the first before the third.

C: Third, tree grabs the third.

K: with that. Mm-hmm.

C: But which one's the right one?

M: The third.

K: I'm bed.

C: The third, okay. So it's the third one. We don't actually figure out what the riddle was. We know there's something about grasshoppers in it because that is like the only big word she can figure out in the whole thing. But she ends up grabbing the correct lever and pulls it. it does stop the grates from coming down to try and squish and kill her and Lucien. And it's kind of at that point that Feyre realizes, because through this, the whole time these tasks are happening, she's been trying to remain positive. And this is the first time that she realizes like, I'm not going to make it to the end of this. Even if I beat the third task, it's going to kill me to do it. And that's if I even make it to the third task. So we see her kind of start to break down, but Rhysand does not let her. And I love this part because he does kind of get into her head, which is ⁓ but he does it so that she can, you know, get back to her cell before breaking down. You know, so he tells her, don't cry. He gives her very specific instructions. You know, stand up, put your hands at your sides, stare Amarantha down. Don't even look at Tamlin. Like just stare her down. Don't cry. Count to 10, turn around and walk away. And he even continues giving her instructions as she's walking away. Of course he calls her a good girl because this isn't, you know, it be fantasy romance without it. ⁓ and then he's like, now don't, don't look at anybody. Just walk straight.

K: Mm-hmm. ⁓

C: One more step, you know, let the crowd part around you, wait until, and he gives her instructions all the way until she's back in her cell. And that's when he goes silent essentially. And she breaks down and cries, pretty much cries for hours because she's realized how close she came to actually dying and is realizing, or it's really setting in that she is not making out, making it out. alive. And we really start to see what she calls like the part of herself that thinks in color that gives her the ability to paint. We see that completely breaking down. It is completely being torn. And she says, you know, I cried for that trivial part of me once so full of color and light now hollow and dark and empty. So even before we make it to the third task, that part of her has already broken. enough that she's not sure she can come back from it. Rhysand comes in at that point. Again, this is hours later after she's cried for a while. Again, only those star-flect eyes were bright and full of color as he's looking at her. but she is still crying. And I don't know what possesses him to think it's a good idea. But he decides to kiss the tears off of her cheeks. Like adorable, but also weird, weird dude.

K: Hmm.

C: But it does the desired effect. ⁓ She lets him do it a couple of times and then she kind of realizes like, on earth am I letting? Yes, you're right.

K: Didn't he lick him? He was licking her, yeah.

M: Yep. I took till it got to her lashes for her to pull away. I'm like, really?

C: Right? But I mean, at the same time, like she's at such a point of desperation and What's the word, the other D word that I'm looking for? Depression. Depression. Like she's so depressed with what she's realized that at this point, I think she's just taking...

M: Destin to?

C: comfort from anyone and anything and it just happens to be Rhysand So it isn't until after, you know, she yells at him and scurries away that she realizes that he essentially kept her from breaking down completely. Kissing and licking her tears away has stopped her from crying more. and

M: What I thought was interesting right there too, since we keep kind of looking at the throne of glass, things that tie out, if you remember with this Rhys, he let her have her time and her space to cry and fall apart, but came back when he knew she was just at the brink. Very, very similar to what we saw in, I don't remember which book in the series it is, but when she was at the point where she had gone through the bottom of her flame and she was at that point where she just needed to. rejuvenate and recuperate and everything. He stayed in arms reach, but then left her have her time and then came back once she was ready to acknowledge even continuing to exist again. So interesting tie. I don't know if there's quite a tie like that in the Crested City series yet, because, well, I haven't read them all and don't remember the first one, but I thought it was an interesting catch with these two. Same moment that male main character gives her time to fall apart.

C: We'll get there.

M: and have her strength in her own breakdown.

C: Yes, and then help her come back from it. ⁓ I do think it's funny that he teases her a little bit after he kisses the tears and licks them. She's like, it was disgusting. And he's like, ⁓ I thought I felt something a little different. Interesting.

K: you Mm-hmm.

C: And again, another mention of his eyes like stars. ⁓ So she's a little scared now because she's realized that a bond has formed between the two of them that allows him to freely read her thoughts and feelings and communicate. But they continue talking and Feyre stops thinking about it at that point. And then at that point, Faye or Rhysand taunts her about reading and says, you know, would it, I've been thinking about ways to torment you when you come to the night court, you know, after all of this, will assigning you to learn to read be as painful as it looked today? And before she can say anything, you know, or throw anything at him, he disappears, vanishes into shadows. ⁓ And it says that it took Feyre a long time to realize that whether Rhysand knew it or not, had effectively kept me from shattering completely, which was definitely his whole point, the whole point that he was there. The whole reason he is picking on her, trying to get a rise out of her is to keep her from going into that depression and falling apart completely because he knows she is the only way for them to break this curse. Then we get a little bit more insight into Feyre falling into that a little bit, you know, a little bit of depression, a permanent darkness settling over her the point where she started looking forward to Rhysand coming. Looking forward to the fairy wine that gives her a chance to forget ⁓ essentially lose herself for a few hours. She even talks about how thinking about Tamlin just made everything worse. And again, really realizes that if the third task didn't kill her, there wouldn't be much of her left to live at that point. And again, she stopped thinking about color, about light, and about the green of Tamlin's eyes, about all those things I had wanted to paint and now never would get to. Because I wasn't going to leave this mountain alive. So. We do get a time where she is getting escorted out of her cell by the two handmaidens of Rhysand and they kind of overhear the Attor talking with an unknown being. We don't know who it is. They're eavesdropping a little bit. We get kind of an idea of what is to come if things continue with Amarantha ruling Prythian that the King of Hybern ⁓ upset with Amarantha and the that she's made with Feyre because ⁓ the of Hybern is ready to move forward ⁓ on you know, taking out Prythian and then moving to the human to conquer those as well. And because Amarantha has made this deal with Feyre, it has put off as soon as, essentially, Amarantha now can't go help the King of Hybern as quickly as he'd like because of this bargain. It has to be finished before she can actually use her forces to come help. we get reminded that this is what happened, you know, years ago when the war ended because Amarantha did not come to the aid of the King of Hybern. So it is almost happening again. And whoever this other person is, is, you know, there on behalf of the King of Hybern his response is kind of, you know, the King is not going to stand if she does not come to his aid, if she does that again. So we do get an understanding that the next steps in their plans ⁓ to join their forces with the High Lords of Prythian and then go take over the next area. to take back the mortal world. Before get into the final task, we do ⁓ two things. ⁓ is Feyre down a little bit more. She's been in the cell after the second task for multiple days, ⁓ well, weeks at this point, and she is truly starting to sink into when... music starts filtering through something. She doesn't know where it's coming from, who it's coming from, ⁓ but she describes it as... A lilting melody. At first she thought it was a hallucination, but it was like moonlight on water. She stared at the ceiling long enough it became the vast expanse of the starry night sky, and I became a small unimportant thing that blew away in the wind. That the music was beauty and goodness, and it reminded her of fields of cornflowers, you know, trees, the expansive open sky, and the music kind of pulsed like hands that gently pushed her onward, pulling me higher, guiding me through the clouds. So it's kind of like she is so far down in herself that this music is helping to bring her back up. and it was music to fill in the gaps of my soul and bring me back to a place where there was no pain. Building to a palace in the sky, a hall of alabaster moonstone, where all that was lovely and kind and fantastic dwelled in peace. Which we don't know yet, but that is foreshadowing for what one of the palaces in the night court looks like. The next thing that we get just before our final task is one last party scene. ⁓ She's been going every night, obviously, to be painted and dressed by Rhysand's handmaidens, at which point she drinks the wine, forgets everything she does, dances, sits in Rhysand's lap, you know, that kind of stuff. All he does is touch her arms and her hips. And she can tell that because of the paint. Those are the only parts of the paint that are marked. or smeared on her body. So this last night, she ends up going in. Her gown that night is a shade of sunset pink. So I think it's cool that it's sunset. So we're like sun setting the end of the book, the end of this section of scenes. ⁓ She does mention that it had become really difficult to look at Tamlin in the last couple of days, so she doesn't look at him. But we get Rhysand not paying attention to her. He's, you know, flirting with some other fairy. ⁓ then all of sudden Tamlin shows up beside her and they're like, let's go, ⁓ you have our own little moment. So they go off in a little closet, have a little makeout session, ⁓ start undress each other because they've realized that In two days time, it's going to be her final trial and Tamlin has most likely realized that they're not going to make it out of this alive either. So this is their last time getting to see each other. So on the one hand, I feel like they're trying to just make the best of it because they haven't been together for over three months. But at the same time, I am frustrated just as much as Rhysand is because Rhysand catches them and he's like, why on earth did you think this was the best use of your time? And he gets very frustrated that Tamlin didn't try and do anything to help get her out, help get her to leave, but instead they needed to have a little make out session. And this is kind of where Rhysand reminds both Feyre and Tamlin that if he wasn't the one who caught them, if it had been Amarantha or Lucien's brothers, the punishment would be bad to the point where Feyre could have just been outright killed.

M: Go.

C: or something could have happened to Tamlin if Amarantha saw him making out with Feyre. So, Rhysand.

K: Tamlin's essentially the one that even started this too, which, and that hurts me even more, because it says he slammed into her, because she had just, you know, I'm sure her eyes hadn't... Yeah. And that just irritates me though, because that just makes me feel like he's only after one thing, you know, and doesn't really care about anything else. No hello, no nothing. And after ignoring her...

C: ⁓ yeah. Walked in the door. Right? It's like we only have one more day to live. So let's just do this. Yes, I agree.

K: Yeah.

C: And we get Rhysand taking it one step further in protecting both Feyre and Tamlin in the sense that he's the one who makes the ink vanish from Tamlin. So people don't know it was Tamlin who touched her. And then he kisses her and touches her so that the ink is on his hand and people assume it was him who was touching her. And then he goes one step further and says, I'm tired of you tonight. Go back to your cell. So he essentially says, go relax and don't worry about any of this. Right before the final task, does come back. Rhysand comes back to her cell. And I love this part because I feel like we get a little bit more info on Rhysand and why, his, or his, ⁓ gosh, Candid. He is more Candid. We get Candid moments with Rhysand. ⁓ He is essentially just coming back into her cell because he needs some peace and quiet. and she is his peace and quiet. She's the closest thing that he has to it. My heart does hurt for him because he says that damn b$&ch is running me ragged and I'm just like, oh, what are we saying? Just give him a night off! And that's when, you know, he kind of says to Feyre, I know you hate me, but imagine if I made you sleep with me too, and then you would understand how I feel towards Amarantha. And I think that's, that's the moment that it really clicked for Feyre as to how much he is going through that is against his will, just to do what he can do and get the opportunities, the permission. You know, he may have to do bad things, but he also is given the chance and the space to do other things. And she's starting to really realize that. ⁓ They have a conversation which I love because he gives her a little bit more information into him. ⁓ You know that he's tired and lonely and he's the only person I can talk to without putting myself at risk. And it's also when he a moment to say, look, you are the only one who can fix this, who can break this curse. ⁓ wrong move tomorrow and we're all doomed. it, ⁓ are unfortunately laying all of this at your feet. And if you don't win, Amaranth is going to rule forever. ⁓ Feyre wants to know why she is always, or why Rhysand is always trying to. I antagonize Tamlin, Rhysand is kind like, well, I I live to do that. And later we'll find out really why he likes to do that. ⁓ But he also gives her a little bit of information, ⁓ talking how he knows that the only one who's going to be able to do anything against Amarantha is going to be Tamlin after Feyre breaks the curse. So he's trying to rile Tamlin up. so that the second the curse is broken, Tamlin snaps, kills Amarantha, and hopefully by that point, Tamlin will have learned or realized that Rhysand was doing this stuff to help, and then he won't try and kill him as well. So essentially, Rhysand is saying again, saving you saves Tamlin and in turn saves all of Prythian, all of his people as well. He also talks about how he uses the paint to essentially be able to tell her, but also Tamlin, that he's never ever touched her inappropriately, that it's always been on her arms and her waist. It is another way of him saying, I am on your side, hoping that when Tamlin snaps that he isn't also there. ⁓ Rhysand does mention that his father is the one who killed Tamlin's father and Tamlin's brothers and that's why Amarantha hates him so much because Amarantha was friends with Tamlin's father. and that she decided she hated me enough for my father's deeds that I was to suffer. That's why Rhysand is considered her whore. And again, this is where Feyre is really starting to realize after everything he said to her and everything that he's done at this point. that he had known what was coming and was trying to help prevent it. and that Rhysand was keeping me alive and had done so before I set foot under the mountain. Because he's also the reason that Tamlin sent her back to the human realm, ⁓ because of Rhysand's threats. So even before they get under the mountain, Rhysand is looking out for her. And I love, like, this is one of my favorite parts of the book. Rhysand says, if you had, after telling her all of this stuff, he's like, you could easily go to Amarantha or somebody and, you know, rat me out. And he says, and if you had any stomach for cruelty, you'd go to Amarantha and tell her the truth about her whore. Perhaps she'd give you Tamlin for it. So he's literally saying, you could rat me out get Tamlin without having to do the task or finish the riddle. And in the end, ⁓ doesn't choose to do that. So to me, it's saying that she doesn't choose Tamlin, she chooses Rhysand and protecting him. And that's when Feyre says, you know, didn't have to bargain with me. You could have taken me for the rest of my life and I would have said, okay, just to have you heal me. And he says, I know because he's such a good person. ⁓ okay. So we finally make it to the third trial and ⁓ my goodness. ⁓ this whole last three chapters, two chapters of the book are just heart wrenching. Yes, but so good. So freaking good. So we have Feyre has come back into the throne room area ready for her third and final task.

M: Exhausting!

K: Mm-hmm.

C: ⁓ She mentions that the world is resting on her shoulders, just as Rhysand had said, but she wasn't going to let the worry show. She was going to walk in with her head held strong, even though she knows she's most likely going to die. ⁓ She does mention that the crowd around her is silent. No one is talking, no one's cheering, leering like they have been doing every other time she's been in there. completely silent. Some of them even touch their fingers, their lips, and then extend their hands to her in a gesture of the fallen or a farewell to an honored dead. So they know also that even if she completes the task, she's probably going to die. And even for this last task, she does not look at Tamlin beforehand. She only looks at Amarantha. And I love how it says that Amarantha's gown is blood red. Also, a little bit of foreshadowing. The crowd around her, think is very interesting because Amarantha continues to taunt Feyre prior to the third task happening and the crowd's response is silence. They're not agreeing with her like they have in the past because they're realizing that they are so close for the curse to so close to getting to a point where the curse is broken and they're free again that they're like walking on eggshells, essentially.

M: love that with that part she says, you know, I would not die alone. That's all I could ask for. That not quite my favorite, favorite line of the book, but one of those that's high up there just, you know, it's a basic human need. You want to know your loved ones are taken care of. Whether you feel desperate to die or not, you have that mental. I want to know that there are people in my life that love me, people that cared about me, animals, something that was there to tether me to this world before I go.

C: Mm-hmm.

M: It's a basic human need that she didn't even realize she had when she was fighting and hunting for the family. Notice she never said anything about having anyone to have her back, not feeling alone. So kind of like she got something she didn't know she needed.

C: Right. I also like Amarantha, you know, like I said, taunting her and Feyre ignoring her, looking straight at Tamlin and just saying, I love you. You know, even if it's only with my insignificant human heart. Even if they burn my body, they kill me, whatever, I will still love you. And his response nothing like literally just stands there and stares at her. gives her nothing but silence. This is when Amarantha lays out what the third task is. And it is essentially there are three fairies in front of her. She has to kill each one of those fairies. She's given a different dagger for each one. All of them are Ash daggers. Arguably they're the same dagger, just three of them, because Amarantha wants her to reach for that knife every single time to kill them. And I think it's really interesting the three characters that are selected. because the first one, you know, is a young male, arguably has a lot of life left and he doesn't want to die. He doesn't care if his death is going to free his family, everyone else around him. He does not want to die and pleads with her not to kill him. ⁓ In the end, she is the one who realizes, I have to do this and if I don't, then everyone will remain cursed. But if I do it, then I can possibly break the curse. ⁓ She does get frustrated, you know, because this isn't like hunting. ⁓ And I think with each trial, she's kind of realized that more and more because she starts out when she first agrees with the trials, she mentioned saying, well, this is just a different type of woods, just the next thing that I have to do to survive. But I think because of the types of trials she's had to undergo, she starts to realize that this is more than just. killing something in the woods to survive. Like if I survive, if I make it through these trials, is there any part of me that's even left to live? And I think that's a big part of what she's realizing as she finally goes through this last trial, because she says it wasn't for survival, it wasn't for defense. It was murder, and it was going to take her very soul to do it. But for Prythian, She mentions Prythian first for Prythian, for Tamlin, for all of them here, for Alis and her boys. She would do it. That she did not want their deaths to be wasted. So she kills the first guy. At that point, Amaranth is like, ⁓ good job. You did it. But she's still smiling because she's a little bee and we don't like her.

M: ever.

C: And then they pull the hood of the second and it is a young woman. ⁓ She has essentially realized that in order for her people, for her family to live, to be free, she has to die. And she's kind of accepted it. So very different from the first fairy that Feyre has to kill. ⁓ In which point, you know, the fairy starts reciting the prayer that I think it was Tamlin had said over the dying fairy in their foyer months ago. Feyre does mention as she's lifting the second ash that something inside me fractured so completely that there would be no hope of ever repairing it, no matter how many years past, no matter how many times I might try to paint her face. And that's when Feyre kind of decides, okay, I just have to kill this fairy, one more fairy, and then I will kill myself at the end of this because she doesn't think she can come back. ⁓ And that each one that she kills is ripping her soul further away from her and that there was only guilt and sorrow. At that point, she kills the second fairy. And has come to the third one. And when they remove the hood, she realizes that the third fairy is actually Tamlin and that the person on the throne beside Amarantha is the Attor who's been glamored. ⁓ I think it's interesting we get what Tamlin looks like and then what Rhysand looks like because at this point she's gazing at Tamlin. and there is only guilt and sorrow in his eyes. And then she looks at Rhysand and he has gone completely pale. At this point, Amarantha says, well, you either kill him and then, you know, he's free because he's no longer on a break curse. He's dead. But then you're going to have to live with that or you don't kill him and I kill you and you're still free. He's not. Those are your options. And it's at that point, you know, that she realizes there's no more bargains that she can make, nothing else that she can do. no one who's coming to her aid, that she has to kill him or kill herself and then doom all of Prythian. So she goes into like a monologue where she's thinking back through different things that have occurred, realizes or at that point she remembers that Alis while walking her to the caves under the mountain that there was something else that she wasn't allowed to say and that's when Feyre thinks back on the conversations that she's had or conversations she's overheard. And that's when she kind of clicks light bulb goes off in her head. ⁓ And she realizes that Tamlin probably based on things that she's overheard, he has a stone heart. And she realizes that every time she's been close to him, she's never actually heard a heartbeat. So she is now trusting everything, trusting that there is fate, even when she's told us multiple times throughout this book that she doesn't believe in fate, she doesn't believe in the cauldron. Finally, she says there was such a thing as fate because fate had made sure I was there to eavesdrop when they'd spoken in private because fate had whispered to Tamlin that the cold contrary girl he dragged to his house would be the one to break the spell. because fate had kept me alive just to get to this point, just to see if I had been listening. So she says, I love you to Tamlin and then stabs him in the heart. Unfortunately, he does have a stone heart.

M: Yeah.

C: And he is not dead. At that point, Rhysand, at the foot of the dais, is grinning ear to ear because he's realized she has completed the third and final task. And Amarantha is pissed. Like, she is livid because Feyre's human heart was not supposed to be able to do this. ⁓ At this point, we find out that Amarantha did intentionally make two different bargains with Feyre, saying that if she finished or completed the riddle, their freedom would be instantaneous, whereas she did not use those stipulations when they made the deal the tasks. ⁓ so essentially Amarantha says she can let them go whenever she chooses because there was no timeframe included. ⁓ At this point, the people around are upset, obviously, because she's being super sneaky and a little shady about this. Amarantha is obviously super mad and starts using her magic, what magic she has, to attack Feyre to essentially beat her to death. So as... Her bones are being shattered, her body rising and then slamming on the floor, being crushed beneath waves of torturous agony. Tamlin again is not doing crap, like he's crawling on the ground because, ⁓ poor baby has a stab wound. He's not dead, just has a stab wound. Poor baby. Whereas Rhysand is screaming her name and over again. As she blacks out, Amarantha brings her back so that she hurt her more. He's still screaming. He's fighting against Amarantha's magic. He's picked up one of the daggers attempting to attack Amarantha with it. Amarantha is then turning towards him, slamming him into the ground. So he's hurt, blood is gushing out of his nose. Feyre is yelling for him because she doesn't want him to be hurt. And Amarantha is like, you don't give a crap about him? Why are you yelling for him? And Amor, or Rhysand is launching himself Amarantha with the Ash Dagger aimed at her throat. And again, she's not letting him get anywhere close. He has his talons out and they're literally being pushed back into his skin. Super painful. Leaving blood in their wake. So he is being hurt while he's trying to fight for Feyre and little Tam Tam's just crawling around on the floor like a baby. And it says the bond us went taut, the bond between Feyre and Rhysand. I flashed between my body and his, seeing myself through his eyes, bleeding and broken and sobbing. And this is again where she's sobbing for Amaranth to stop hurting Rhysand. Rhysand bellowed my name as I lost my grip on the room. Then the memories began, know, a compilation of the worst moments of her life, a storybook of despair and darkness. the final page came, which I love the verbiage of her life being a storybook and she's feeling like this is the final page or you could argue this is the final page in her human book coming to an end. And that she wept not entirely feeling all of the agony in her body Essentially, she's losing consciousness Amarantha the whole time is saying, you he's screaming at her as she continues to hurt everybody. Say that you don't love him. You can't possibly love him. Tamlin at this point has finally made it to Amaranthas crawled to Amaranthas feet and begged for her to stop. First thing he's ever done and has begged for Amaranthas to stop. He's not trying to hurt her, just begging that she stops. That's it. At that point, Feyre kind of realizes as Amarantha is screaming at her to say that you don't love her, she is saying, Feyre is essentially saying, I'm not going to say that because I do love him and I will always love him. And that's when it clicks that the answer to the riddle is love. And she finally says it. She breathes the world crumbling into blackness with no end. A pause in Amaranthas magic. The answer to the riddle, she says, I got... She's literally choking on her own blood as she's trying to say this. The answer to the riddle is love. Tamlin's eyes went wide from something forever. No, no, no. Tamlin's eyes went wide before something forever cracked in my spine. So essentially, She gets out the answer to the riddle and then Amarantha breaks her neck. In chapter 45, we start out with Feyre not being in her body. ⁓ She feels or is seeing things from far away, seeing things through the eyes, eyes that weren't mine, eyes attached to a person who slowly rose from his position on a cracked and bloodied floor. And this is where we can see Feyre's body where her head is snapped to one side at a horribly wrong angle. Lucien crying over her, but he had been able to remove his mask. And then Tamlin's, then we see, we're looking at Tamlin's face twisted into something truly lupine as he raised his eyes to the Queen and snarled. Fangs lengthened. So essentially as soon as Feyre answered the riddle, it broke the magic that Amarantha had holding Tamlin back, holding onto Tamlin's magic. Tamlin got all of his magic back. And I think it's really interesting. that at one point we had a conversation between Rhysand and Feyre where Rhysand says that he does not like to let himself go completely to the beast that he can become. Like he has a hard time giving himself over to it, but in this instant we see Tamlin completely give himself over to his beast form. Tamlin let out a roar that shook the mountain as he launched himself at her. He shifted into his beast form faster than I could see, fur and claws and pound upon pound of lethal muscle. So we had some earlier foreshadowing about Feyre ripping out Amarantha's throat. Obviously she is essentially dead at this point, but we do get to watch Tamlin in his beast form rip out Amarantha's throat. And then Lucien throws a sword at him. I underlined it because it says a shooting star of steel. And I'm mentioning it because we're going to talk about it later because it may come in later. I don't know for sure as we read through the other books, but Lucien throws a sword at him and then Tamlin catches it. And then he essentially sticks it in her head.

M: Such beautiful imagery though, gruesome, but ⁓ my, I mean, I love that kind of writing anyway, you know this, but just, I'm not one that sees when I'm reading, I don't see the imagery in images, I see words, I'm kind of fuzzy, like I kind of go off my own space, but I don't see, I don't think in images, I'm one of those that thinks in words or just hearing my own voice. So this is one of those few times where an SJM is that kind of author I can get myself where I can imagine it.

C: And it isn't until, right? Yes.

M: even though I'm not the one to see. And this is one of those where I just, you know, you're cheering him on in the back. Yes, finally, something to cheer for him with. Finally. Finally.

C: Right? Right? Finally, one thing to cheer him on for.

K: Thank you.

C: Yes, yep. So finally we have Amaranth the Dead. ⁓ We do, she does mention, you know, that she hears the masks of all the other spring court fae that they're, they clatter to the ground. ⁓ And then it isn't until this point that she is staring down at her own broken body that she realizes she's in Rhysand. So she is seeing through Rhysand's eyes. ⁓ Tamlin comes over and is cradling her, Lucien's crying, there are other people around them that she doesn't know that are also crying. And then someone appeared beside Lucien, a tall, handsome, brown-haired man with a face similar to his own. So, spoiler, disclaimer, this is a spoiler. So we know that, well, we don't know. We have an idea that Lucien's dad isn't the king of the high lord of the autumn court. So makes me wonder, because when I first reread this it mentioned a tall handsome brown haired man with a face similar to his own my immediate thought was this is Helion the ⁓ Lord of Day Court but she does specifically say this is the High Lord of the Autumn Court

M: Hmm.

C: So I don't know, like I just, I don't know in this section because obviously she's in Rhysand and throughout this chapter as she is in Rhysand looking through him, she does make it known that like the person she's looking through who these people are. So is it just Rhysand ⁓ ⁓ he knows or thinks he knows that Lucien's dad is the High Lord of the Autumn Court that they look alike?

K: Mm-hmm.

C: Do they actually look alike? Or is this not the King or the High Lord of the Autumn Court and it's actually the High Lord of the Day Court? I don't know, but it made me wonder.

K: Yeah, but how do we know though? I get what you're saying that she's, you know, looking through Rhysand, but how do we know they're still sharing the same thought process? Because she's not hasn't met of these. ⁓

M: Interesting.

C: Peak. Right. So it's, let me see if I can find exactly. Because at one point she mentioned... And maybe it's actually down this section.

K: Yeah, it's a little lower. If that's what you're talking about.

C: Yes, yep, through my host's eyes I knew them instantly. So it's like two paragraphs later. So she doesn't know these people. She's probably seen them because they're all under the mountain with her, but she doesn't know who they are to be able to identify them. That's why it makes me wonder.

M: Yeah.

K: Okay. Yeah.

C: you know, is this actually Lucien's dad or is it just Rhysand assuming it's his dad? I don't know.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: And then at that point. See, that's where I'm pretty sure. We'll keep thinking about it we go through because I ⁓ Helion the first one to put spark in her. And if you take it, if you read it the way ⁓ she says, it's actually the autumn court that is the first one. Which surprises me because Rhysand doesn't have a connection with the Autumn Court, but he does have the connection with the Day Court. And we know when we get to chapter, or know, to book two, when Rhysand is talking to Feyre about all of this, that it was Rhysand who goes into the minds of the High Lords and convinces them to do this. Rhysand is the one who brings her back to life. Tamlin isn't asking the High Lords to do this. Rhysand is. And I could have sworn it was Helion who did it. But again, we'll move on and then we may come back to that. at this point, they are the High Lords are essentially giving a glittering kernel and then dropping it upon her. This is essentially part or a little bit of magic, their power that they're dropping onto her so that she can live. They're essentially giving her the gift of life. ⁓ Rhysand is the last one. He steps forward, you know, bringing and I love how she says it, bringing my shred of soul with him. And I found Tamlin staring at me, at us. And Rhysand says, for what she gave we'll bestow what our predecessors have granted to few before. And he gives the final kernel of the seventh. high lord of Prythian because it has to be one from each high lord. And then he turns to Tamlin essentially and says, this makes us even. And that's when he lets the seed fall on her. And at this point, she is then pulled back into her own body. So she essentially sucks in a breath and comes back to life, but she is no longer human. The power that was given to her by the seven high lords has made her high fae even just a fairy, high fae. We get multiple times throughout this last chapter where Feyre talks about pushing off thoughts of what happened, pushing away, know, immediately on the next page, I pushed back against the wall of black that threatened to swallow me. Multiple times she mentions it throughout this last chapter that she is not thinking about what she had to do to get here, what she went through. She's thinking, she's herself, let's think about the present, let's be present, and I'll think about all that stuff and the consequences later, and I'll deal with them later. At this point, ⁓ puts a hand on Tamlin's heart. It is beating because he has his power back. And then one by one, crowding him, weeping and laughing with joy, the high fae and fairies of the spring court knelt or embraced or kissed Tamlin, thanking him. And then as an afterthought, thanking me. Right, because Tamlin did all of this. Bull. Load of bull. Again, says, you know, if becoming an immortal, if surviving somehow earned me the right. No, let me try that again. ⁓ Another point, ⁓ says their death had not been in vain, but ⁓ makes it mentioned that when woke up as a fe instead of a human, all of the blood had been washed off of her and essentially feeling like. becoming immortal or surviving had somehow earned her the right to wash the blood off of her, which she completely disagrees with. She does not think she has earned that right. That she should be begging Tamlin's forgiveness, the families and the friends of the fairies that she killed for their forgiveness, ⁓ and saying that she would never, their would never fade from her, those that she killed. At this point, she and Tamlin go off to their little bedroom. And then a few days later, ⁓ we have her being pulled out of sleep. I was pulled from sleep by something tugging at my middle, a thread deep inside. A thread deep inside. So she is guided to essentially climb a tower, doesn't realize, you know, cause she was just sleeping, that it's actually daytime because they've been under the mountain for so long. And I love this because Rhysand is standing at the top of the tower with his wings out because he no longer needs to fear showing them. And at this point, I remembered how he'd fought again and again to attack Amarantha to save me.

M: Thank

C: So she asks him, know, what do you want? She's trying to be frosty to him, but it's not really coming out that way. Because in the end, they, you know, they tried to help save each other. he's, you Rhysand says, you know, I just came to say goodbye, you know, before your beloved whisks you away forever. Foreshadowing. And then she's like, well, not forever. Cause you know, you get me for a week every month. And he's like, ⁓ yeah. ⁓ and then she asks him why. And we started to get a little bit of this, you know, in, in the cell before the third trial. ⁓ but he's, he essentially tells her straight out, you know, because when the legends get written, I didn't want to be remembered for standing on the sidelines, literally what Tamlin did. I'll point that out. I want my future offspring to know that I was there and that I fought against her at the end, even if I couldn't do anything useful.

K: Mm.

C: because I didn't want you to fight alone or die alone. So like the biggest thing she has always wanted is to not feel alone and he is the one person who has helped her do that in the end. She does, you know, they talk a little bit more jabbing each other a little bit back and forth, but she does say, you know, because she kind of realizes it seen him with his wings out. never told me you love the wings or the flying and his response is, Well, everything I love has always had a tendency to be taken away from me. I tell very few about the wings or the flying. And that's when Feyre is like she can't imagine what it would have been like for him. a high lord who loved to fly to be trapped under a mountain. Like that is essentially the worst thing for him. ⁓ And she also realizes, you know, there are shadows in his eyes that would also forever be in mine. And this is probably one of my favorite lines in the book. ⁓ You know, she says, I'm an immortal who has been mortal and this body is different, but this heart, she puts a hand on her chest, is still human. Maybe it always will be, but it would have been easier to live with it. you know, to live with everything that she did. Easier to live with what I did if my heart had changed too. Maybe I wouldn't care so much. Maybe I could convince myself their deaths weren't in vain. Maybe immortality will take that away. I can't tell whether I wanted to or not. So she's essentially saying I wish my heart had changed too so that I didn't feel as much as I did. I didn't care as much. And then she's like, well, maybe, you know, being immortal, eventually I'll get to that. point, who knows? I don't know if I want to get to that point or not. And my favorite quote from Rhysand is, glad of your human heart, Feyre. Pity those who don't feel anything at all. So he is essentially saying, be happy for who you are, because if you weren't that, you wouldn't be one the person that you are, but you wouldn't have done what you did. And then he bows at the waist. And he is about to winnow away when he went rigid, his eyes locked on mine, wild and wide and his nostrils flared shock, pure shock flashed across his features at whatever he saw in my face. And he stumbled back a step, actually stumbled. And she goes to ask him, what is it? What's wrong? And then he disappears, simply disappears, not into a shadow. just into crisp air, so he winnows away. We find out what he does as soon as he winnows away later on in book two. So we'll that until book two. But then the last little scene that we get is Tamlin and Feyre actually making it back to the spring court ⁓ they're able to see Alis and her boys are running around around manor. And they essentially say, you know, let's go home. ⁓ And Feyre you know, this is not something that I ever let myself imagine while I was under the mountain because I didn't think I'd actually get here. And she says, tomorrow, so again, she's mentioning that she's not going to think about things today, but tomorrow I would face what shredded into pieces inside myself under the mouth. So she wants to try and enjoy the fact that they have overcome it and are now getting to go home. And that is the end of Book One. ⁓ my goodness, so much in that last chapter. Well, last couple of chapters. All right, so thoughts on the book other than Tamlin is useless ⁓ we love Rhysand

K: you

M: I mean, I think that sums it up. That is it. Done. Final. That is the whole book in one sentence. Tamlin sucks. We love Rhysand ⁓ ⁓ I think that it's interesting as you're looking through it. She it took her so long and I got so frustrated with her that she wasn't seeing what Rhysand was doing.

C: We're the whole book that sums it up. ⁓ that's too funny. Right?

M: And I did that the first time I read the book too, because I was, course, as a reader, you're supposed to start picking up on what he's doing to defend her, how he's protecting her. You're supposed to see those glaring things. But I was so frustrated with her being so book smart or so street smart, so savvy in her own way that she couldn't recognize someone protecting her the way she had sacrificed herself to protect others. It was just. And I don't know if I want to say the glaring character flaw, but it was the one moment where I was like, come on.

C: Yep.

M: like fantasy or not, some stuff cheesy in books or not like that was just to really give her that but it had to be that way for her to have everything click into place but it was so frustrating. So frustrating when he's over here burying his soul and she's like ⁓ maybe he doesn't suck.

C: I agree.

K: Hmm.

C: Right? And I think it's, I think it's a good, like the way Sarah wrote ⁓ of that, ⁓ think it's also a good representation of how someone can tell you about a person that you've never met and you can form, you those prejudices or those thoughts, opinions about them without meeting them. And I think this is a really good representation of that because Feyre wants to hate him. based on what she's been told and a little bit of what she's... Half of what she's seen, he's kind of been a jerk, but the other half of it is like he's helped her. He saved her on Calanmai You know, he's healing her and saving her now, getting her to stop from breaking. So I think it's a good representation of that and how Feyre is starting to make an opinion of him on her own. And as we continue into book two, I think it's interesting how we continue around that in the sense that Feyre reverts back to the opinions of others and not what she saw with Rhysand and under the mountain. So I think it's interesting to see that those, you know, who those around you can have such strong opinions that they influence you.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: even when you think something or you know something completely different. So I think that part is at least really relatable. It's fantasy, so there isn't a whole lot that can be relatable, but I think that's a good, a part that is very relatable.

M: that respect.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: Okay. So I'm thinking we do an end for the podcast and then are you guys good to do some questions before we hop off? Do we have time? Yes. Yes, you can. Cause what I want to do is like end it and then do it as like a bonus episode where we're talking through questions on the third book or the first book specific to the book.

K: Yeah, can I use the bathroom first though?

C: And then we can use it as a bonus episode to post, but then we can also use it as individual reels. you guys good with that? Okay. So yes, everybody go pee and then we'll end and go into questions. Cause I had to pee too.

K: Okay.

M: Sounds good. Hmm.

K: and sleeping so I have to like crawl underneath my thing to get back to my desk because I'm like and he's asleep on the bed and I don't want to wake him up so

C: That's great.

K: No, workout. Just trying to curl in anything.

C: Right? Okay. Are we ready?

K: Yeah, hold on let me pull up the questions. I didn't really look at these I didn't last time I kind of wrote everything out and had answers and I don't really want to do that because I Feel like it takes away the being candid with it, you know Hey, let's see ⁓

C: Yeah. Okay. I will do our clothes real quick and then jump into a bonus episode and then we'll jump into our first question. Does that work for everybody?

M: Sounds good.

C: Okay, awesome. What am I gonna say to end us? I was thinking about it while I was peeing and now I'm like crap, was I gonna say? Okay, so thank you so much for joining us for our final episode in our deep dive of ACOTAR Book One, A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. Join us next time as we jump into the first few chapters of A Court of Mist and Fury, Book Two in the ACOTAR series. Also join us in a little bit for a bonus episode where we ask each other some questions about Book One. and have some fun answers. So have a great day and just read it, MCKay? Awesome. Okay. Welcome back to our bonus episode where we have some fun questions to discuss after reading book one of A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. Let's jump in. And if you haven't, just read it.

M: Perfect. Winning!

C: right? ⁓ if you haven't read ACOTAR yet, just read it. MCKay Okay! Stop looking at me. Go back to playing your game. Ridiculous.

M: I had to shut my door. couldn't even leave it cracked today because as soon as I went in here, I had the cat and him yelling. I was like, I'm Done.

K: pretty sure he said I would know.

C: Right? Okay. What was your favorite quote from the book? So I have two, ⁓ and I'm actually going to have them on my wall, hopefully by the next time we record. But one of them is from the very last chapter, which is from, actually both of my quotes are from Rhysand, of course. But when he tells Feyre, you know, to...

K: you

C: What is the quote?

K: You

C: On it! Where'd go? So when Rhysand says, glad of your human heart, Feyre, pity those who don't feel anything at all. So one. ⁓ when they're Calanmai ⁓ and you know, interrupts the other fairies from hurting her. And he says, there you are. I've been looking for you because I love how it ties and it's so similar to.

K: and

C: the first time Rowan officially meets like Aelin in her fae form in Heir of Fire. So I love the similarities there. So favorite quote, go.

M: would say mine would have to be, ⁓ actually we just covered it too and it's kind of Feyre-Rhysand together. It's the area about her arm being healed, her not having to bargain. ⁓ So you could have demanded every single week of the year, my brows knit together as he turned already half consumed by the dark every single week and I would have said yes. And then the line following, wasn't a question but I needed to know the answer. ⁓ I love that. And then of course tying in his, know at the end, but the first part, because it's so, okay, she's starting to come to the realization that she is making her own choices. She is, like we talked in the last episode, covering about what she's feeling and making her own way and her own path. And then following in suit, because I can't do anything simply myself, I do have a passage that's my favorite. I don't know if it's necessarily quote, but where they're working on Early, early in the book when they're working on, or she's in the library and she's looking at the map, a mighty black cauldron held by the glowing slender female hands in a starry, endless night. Those hands tipped it over, golden sparkling liquid pouring out over the lip. No, not sparkling, but effervescent with small symbols, perhaps some of the agent fae language. That tie in to just everything in her world. So beautiful. It was something that stuck with me. I don't know if you guys remember me talking about it. went on our first episodes when we covered it, but it's part of what drew me into her writing originally. And even after a year of reading it, I still highlighted it. And you know, I don't highlight much on my Kindle, but it's saved in my clips for my Kindle notes because I had to go back and save it and I didn't want to mark my book. So there you go.

C: Okay. Before you give your answer, ⁓ I thought that that part, because when Sarah wrote these books, she had not finished writing Throne of Glass. So I thought we were going to get a point in Throne of Glass where Aelin ⁓ is one pouring out the cauldron. And that's how it was going to tie into the different worlds. Obviously that's not what happened, but that is one theory that I had. reading through these books before Throne of Glass was finished.

M: ⁓ wow, that's cool. See different perspectives, because you got to read it in real time.

K: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

C: Right? All right, Kay, your favorite quote.

K: ⁓ so, honestly anything that Rhysand has said, but especially Calanmai like I love just when he first comes up to her. Hang on.

M: I it.

C: I love it.

K: waking up. I don't know the exact page it's on but mine would be whenever he first comes up to Feyre during Calanmai when he first finds her. ⁓

C: There you are, I've been looking for you.

K: Yeah, I just love that. Anything that he says, I just love the banter between them, but that's my favorite quote.

C: I agree. I think it gets better in book two. Obviously they spend more time together in book two, but in book two it's like top of the line, right? It's perfect. I agree. think, you know, hello, favorite darling. That is such a why or such a well-known quote to everybody has it on like little stickers or quotes on their t-shirts. ⁓ Right? Yes, because it's, I mean, it's just a little piece, but it is.

K: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

C: like the epitome of Rhysand and his relationship or his feelings towards Feyre is just, hello, Feyre darling. Like I just, I can't wait till we get to more of that because I think the voice actor in the dramatized versions does a really good job with Rhysand and I'm looking forward to him in book two. Okay, next one. Flip to a random page in the book. your favorite line to the group.

K: Hang on, I think I may have to put a call now because he just woke up. Give me just a second.

C: I'm okay with this one. Are you playing with Dow? Okay, I just think it's funny. Now Colton just woke up and he's in the room with her. Yeah. Emily, it's funny because Aaron is playing... What are y'all playing? Diablo. Diablo. They're playing, he's playing Diablo with Katie's husband right now.

M: I it.

C: That's what I thought. Hi, love.

M: ⁓ too funny.

C: So there, now we just gotta get Celso on to join them in whatever they're playing. It'll be even more amusing because the three of us will be here and the three of them will be there.

M: So have a standing play date.

C: No, you're not. You're not going to stand there and watch me record. No. No. You're not allowed.

M: I mean, yeah, I've gotten that threat too already of, ⁓ just wait till you're recording and I'm gonna walk by and say hello. No, you're really not.

C: ⁓ yeah, no, when I got up, when we all got up to use the restroom, y'all had done that as well because Aaron apparently poked his head in and you could see his forehead. He's like, you'll see my forehead on your recording.

M: I cracked up on that one.

C: ⁓ my gosh.

M: ⁓ Yeah, I had my random page and then I put my book down. So I had to re-pick my random page. And I have to say, I think I like that line better. So I'm going to go with it. ⁓ my goodness.

C: Right? Right? Can you hear them? Can you hear them in the background? ⁓ yes. Yeah, it's because Aaron's wrestling on the floor with them. So Macy thinks that means we beat up on brother. Macy and dad both beat up on Dante. Yeah. And then even when Aaron stops playing, Macy still is attacking Dante.

M: Ho ho ho! ⁓ thank you. I love the final rrrr.

C: ⁓ yes, that's cause Dante ran away and she was mad.

M: It's like, the hell, guy?

C: Okay, so we are going to a random page and reading our favorite line on that page.

K: Random page, okay.

C: Yep. Flip to a random page in the book. Read your favorite line to the group. Okay, so mine is, I already pointed that out. 336 in the book ⁓ my favorite line I don't think I pointed it out when we actually read through or discuss this chapter because I don't have it underlined, but I think my favorite one on this half page is Rhysand and Feyre had just made their bargain and Rhysand is talking about how he's going to tell Tamlin, you know, when the moment is right and Feyre says and I'd fallen into his trap fallen into it worse than the worm had fallen into mine. That's like, that is perfect.

M: hahahaha There you go. I love ⁓ it. Mine was on page 215 in the book. And right after she's talking with Lucien, ⁓ trying get his ⁓ vibe a couple things, why the glamour isn't applying to all of the other beings. And he looks at her and goes, well, if I offer you the moon on a string, will you give me a kiss too? By far, favorite line on that page.

C: All right.

K: Yeah.

M: Favorite line on that page.

C: Lucien's just like ⁓ teasing her. ⁓

M: And he's cleaning his nails with his hands.

K: No. Lucien cracks me up sometimes with what he says. Hold on, let me figure out where I'm at in this book though. I'm on 160 and 161.

C: Right? All right, page 160.

K: necessarily. It looks like it's Tamlin just telling Feyre about ⁓ But it's what's grabbing my attention. ⁓ I love anything ⁓ they're referencing the cauldron. ⁓ two jokes in one day a miracle sent from the cauldron. It any of that cracks me up, especially like when Lucien says cauldron boil me. ⁓ ⁓ that.

C: Right?

M: Hehehehehe

K: I love it. It's just so funny.

C: I agree. I think that's perfect. Okay, if you were to get a tattoo of this book or inspired by this book, what would it be?

K: That's a great question, because I've already got some lined up.

C: But it has to be specific to this book, not just the series, but this book.

K: Hello.

C: If I had to get a tattoo. about this book, it would probably be the feline cat eye that is tattooed on Feyre's hand. Because that's the only thing I can pull out from the book that I would want permanent. Like other books in the series or other books by her, yes, because, you know, I already have one. But for this specific book, there's really nothing because like we don't

K: Hmm.

C: really know what the night court symbol looks like yet. So I can't say I would get the mountain with the three stars. ⁓ so yeah, I think it would have to be the cat eye or what I would interpret as what her tattoo looks like. I think it would be cool to get something like that. Maybe, I mean, obviously not a full arm tattoo, but like maybe like a, a small section, a couple of inches. around a part of my arm that would be similar to what she had. I can see myself doing that.

M: Night.

K: Yeah, could too. That's probably the only thing I can think of is just her... you know what, Rhys gave her on her arm. I'd have ⁓ probably sit and think because I don't... I can't think of anything else specifically from this ⁓ From... yeah, the other ones obviously, ⁓

C: Right?

M: This one's hard. This one was hard for me to thought about it a couple days. And I would say possibly inspired by this book, a pair of violet eyes in a dark mist on the back side of my right ear. But I wouldn't get anything from this book. Because I have other books in this if I was going to get anything book related, it's probably going to be from the last book in the series. So

K: Yeah. Mmm.

C: ⁓ that's cool.

M: But if I was going to from this book, I think it would be that for the symbolism behind it.

C: because that is brought up multiple times as describing his eyes as violet. And it would still tie into the other books. Yeah. Okay. I like that one too.

M: and went through the mist of the darkness and through the, yeah.

C: All right. Do you see yourself in any of the characters?

M: Feyre and she's being stubborn. I am such a brat. ⁓ And honestly, when Salsa is this, I'll crack up when I say that, but I am such a brat. When I'm at the, it makes sense to me, even if I don't understand your intention behind it, my why is my why and I'll walk away and I'll storm out and I'll have my moment and then I'll come back. All right, fine. It's over. Let's move on. Like, like bratty stuff, not serious stuff, just the bratty side.

C: Yeah. Yeah, I think I'd have to say Feyre as well, in the sense ⁓ ⁓

M: So.

C: Like when she gets to a point where she has to kill the three fairies in the final task. I mean, even when she has to kill Andras as in a wolf form and she's talking about, you know, my survival versus others, why am I more important than somebody else? And I think I would struggle in the same way that she did if I had to come to that point. So I feel like I would relate very well to her in that regard. Okay, what do you think?

K: So for me, yeah No, no, that's not a very good person I have a hard time putting myself in The character like seeing myself as characters I just read it to read, you know I have a hard time looking past and seeing I just I get so immersed I guess I don't really think about myself in

C: You can say no. Or Nesta

K: I just like to read the story just to read it.

C: That's understandable. ⁓ Would you change the ending of the book? I this is a really hard question to ask us because we've all read the rest of the series and so we know what's going to happen and why things happen the way they did. But I think if we went back and were asking that question after reading it for the first time, then I imagine we would all want to say yes, that we would want something to happen so that Rhysand and Feyre were together.

K: You think that so early on? don't think, you know, if we were just reading that for the first time, you don't think that we would want something different with Tamlin?

C: I mean, maybe?

K: remember how ⁓ felt, you know, ⁓ first time and ⁓ my gosh, Tamlin, you know, and then the rest of them. ⁓ Rhys, ⁓ like the whole mystery ⁓ him throughout the book ⁓ his character. We don't really know ⁓ about him ⁓ than what's being told, ⁓ know, by Tamlin. ⁓ I don't know. ⁓ feel like ⁓ might. ⁓

C: Right?

K: want something different especially with the tasks too. I hate that she had to kill the other fairies. So maybe that but... Yeah.

C: anything to add or no? Do you agree?

M: Honestly, I, seeing this comes out, my type of reader, I have such a hard time separating the rest of the series because I read it after everything was already written. It was my foray, not necessarily getting back into reading, but actually buying books and having the drive to explore more as opposed to just relying on my rereads. So I don't think I would because I remember.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: I had the very next one next to me and I went straight from closing this to picking up the next. I didn't have a pause. So because of that, I don't think I can answer that question because I wouldn't, but I'm biased from having just had the experience I had. So. ⁓

K: it's true. Mm.

C: Right? Okay. Yeah, like I said, I feel like that one, maybe at the end of the series, because the new ones aren't out yet, we can ask that question again and possibly have different answers. yeah, that makes sense. ⁓ What snack would you pair with the book? like. Can you make rabbit jerky? Is that a thing?

K: I'm sure. We're going that wild with it. Rabbit jerky. Like I was thinking chip. Rabbit jerky is where we went with that.

C: Because I just

M: You're just going on a whole different...

C: Just...

M: Almonds and veggies maybe? No.

K: Yeah, it was not making rabbit jerky.

C: I was just thinking. just thinking about the rabbit, because she mentions, you know, there, there, there mentioned multiple times throughout the book, it was her first kill, which we just read in the last couple chapters. Plus, you know, they she talks about it right before she goes to Prythian, ⁓ you know, making traps for rabbits. And so that's why my brain immediately thought rabbit. But then I was like, that's not really a snack. So can you make jerky out of rabbit? That's a snap!

K: Yeah.

M: I mean...

K: Can wine be a snack?

C: That's... that's... Yes.

K: What? I think a fairy wine, that's only.

C: Exactly, that would be the next one. Yep, a good wine. That is one of the questions. What drink would you pair with this? Wine or coffee? And I feel like wine is the better option.

K: Hmm. Yeah.

M: sparkling wine.

C: Sparkly wine, okay.

M: A sparkling Moscato from Trader Joe's to be specific. One of the only wines I drink, but it tastes like I imagine in our way without having the ability to taste and feel like you do or like they do in books. It tastes how the pool feels when Tamlin and Lucien take her to the picnic that day. Like just the light to the, like honestly, it's the wine that I.

K: Yeah.

C: ⁓ okay. Okay, interesting.

M: told you I'll probably look and get a couple bottles for me to drink for our toast for the wedding. So like, it's that good. But for snacks, I would honestly have said like trail mix type stuff or almonds and peanuts because like, I didn't want to have to think about being messy while I read. So I was just anything I could. But I mean,

C: Okay.

M: That was where I went. No rabbit jerky! No! And no grubs either! Not really. Okay, hang on a sec. I gotta wipe my eye off.

C: Not rabbit jerky?

M: So I told you, by the way, I laugh so hard I cry. Here's how often I'm actually laughing when we talk at work.

C: ⁓ my goodness.

M: ⁓ OK, sorry about that.

C: See, I would not have paired TrailMix with this book. Because they don't do, I mean, I guess they do some hunting, but they don't really do any hiking. And that's why when I think of TrailMix is for hiking.

M: So yeah, think of it for nature, even just trips out and about. So she's out in the spring, springtime snacks, summer when it's too hot to cook. So you're just kind of eating the fruit or popsicles or whatever's there. I mean, you know me, I could say popsicles, because I have popsicles with everything, but that's not really related to the book. So I was thinking more like picnic-y type snacks.

C: Yeah. Okay, I can see that they go on a couple of picnics. That makes sense.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: I mean, I guess you could put Rabbit Jerky in the picnic though, so. a little bit for everybody.

K: ⁓

C: ⁓ my gosh. Okay, what color do you associate with the book? So I think I associate red, but that's only because the original cover had red on it.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: So out, but like it kind of fits with the amount of killing that she does. And I know how that plays a part in book two, but I feel like it plays a part in book two because of the amount of blood in book one. So I think red.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: I would say more of a, I apparently are going deep with these answers now that I start to say this, ⁓ more of like a desert dry grass color, like almost dead grass, like brown wheat, dried out wheat. And then as it's towards the end, almost like an ombre into regrowth. So like, as you imagine, like the spring court coming back to life,

C: Okay.

M: I kind of see that progression because like her life was drab, colorless. Early on, it was just survival into being able to see stuff and then seeing more than she ever imagined. So I would almost do this one versus others as like a dusty tan, not quite beige because there was some stuff that sparked a little bit, mostly just kind of there. It's like dead grass type. ⁓

C: Dead grass color.

M: Again, I live in the desert, dry grass.

C: have never thought that is a color let alone associated with this book but okay

M: That's me. I'll take pictures outside if you want.

C: ⁓ no, I believe you. It's just, you know, being in the East coast ish. That's not what I would have thought.

K: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

M: Fair.

K: I'll right back. I have a hard time associating colors with it. I'm more of like scenes. I can just see different scenes having colors, not associating just a whole. do. Red is a very good one because there's lots of feeling, but it just depends on the scene for me, honestly. Cause I don't know, like when I think of spring court, I think of pastels, you know? ⁓ yeah. And then.

C: Right.

K: dark and dreary when I think of under the mountain. So it just depends on the scene for me.

C: What emoji best describes the book?

K: I don't

C: Like a purple heart? Maybe because I'm going based off of the violet eyes again, which we love. So a purple heart. but also with like a little dagger in there. So many people are dying.

M: The emerging with the X on the I. ⁓

K: So are we just making up emojis or are we picking that's already made at this point? ⁓

C: Let's go with something already made.

K: I don't know.

M: I still say the smiley face with the X's for the eyes because of all the death. What? Just the... I mean...

K: Yeah, that's a good one. Let's go.

C: So like the color of lights out pretty much.

K: Ooh, yeah.

M: Yeah, basically.

K: or a palette of paint.

C: ⁓ that's a good one too.

M: Okay.

C: That is very much through most of this book. And she references how much she goes from not painting to painting to not painting. I like that one. I agree. Which location in the book would you want to visit?

K: Okay.

M: with all the light. Yep.

C: the pool of starlight.

K: Yeah. again. Yeah.

C: ⁓ How many stars are you rating the book? Up to five. We're going to go with five. Just the book, not the series, which is hard.

K: Yeah, if I was reading it for the first time, probably... I want to say four and a half, but... probably a four.

C: I agree, because I feel like the parts that we love, we only love because we know the rest of the series. So I would agree, probably about four, maybe four and a half.

K: Hmm.

M: Yeah. I would even say like 3.75, a ⁓ high three. Because the beginning, if you're looking at just this book, the beginning just dragged so much.

K: Yeah, I'd say four and a half.

C: Yes it does.

K: I'd say about when you get to the trials is why I would go with yeah.

M: So I, exactly. So I think for that alone, just to enjoy overall and get lost in maybe like a high three, three seven, three eight.

C: All right. Did you learn anything new from the book?

M: the dramatized versions are worth it to listen to.

C: That's true. ⁓ What part of the book surprised you the most? Which is again hard because this is a reread for us.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: And I'm trying to remember what I would have thought and what my answer would have been when I read through it the first time.

K: I feel like when I first read it, probably when she first goes under the mountain and she sees Claire like tacked up on the wall, I feel like that was a pretty big, ⁓ know, stuff's getting pretty real when I see a body just hanging up on the wall. I think that was probably the most shocking.

C: Yeah. I think the extent her family's wealth ⁓ she went to live in Prythian surprised me the most because I think ⁓ that they're taken care of is one thing, but essentially having them being elevated to pretty much the top ⁓ society because of the riches that Tamlin gave and then also the riches that Feyre comes home with, I think that part surprised me the most.

M: Honestly, think I'm going back to my first read. think I'd have to agree with Kay and go with Claire. I remember audibly gasping when I read her name when she was under the mountain. I think that would have to be it for me too.

K: I will.

C: Okay, interesting. What is your favorite scene in the book? I think I can answer this for all of us that it is Calanmai Either that or one of the interactions between Rhysand and Feyre in her cell at one point, because I feel like all of them are really good.

K: Mm-hmm. 100%.

M: ⁓ yeah.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: True.

C: Which part, nope, we're gonna do that. Did the book inspire you to try something new?

K: It inspired me to read the next book immediately after finishing the first one.

C: Ha! Right? So it wouldn't have been the first time that I read it, but in one of my rereads, I did pick up painting because I was like, ⁓ I could totally be Feyre and paint. I mean, I'm not terrible at it, but I'm not anything special. So I did try painting because of this book and a combination of another book. So there's one.

M: I, the first time I read it, I read through the first book and turned around and bought, well, I already had the rest of ACOTAR series, but I turned around and bought all of Throne of Glass without even reading more than ACOTAR and Crested City books once. So I guess that, to dive into the world completely. Yeah. ⁓

K: Okay.

C: Okay. Did you cry while reading this book?

M: No.

K: I don't remember.

M: Not this one.

C: Okay. So when I first read it, when I first read any book, most books don't cry on the first read. But when I'm rereading and I know what's coming, there are certain things that I will cry for. ⁓ I always cry at the end of book three, hands down it's going to happen. ⁓ This reread, I did actually tear up when Feyre ⁓ being killed and Rhysand is trying to help. ⁓ It just, you know, all the feels. So I did tear up a little bit on this reread at that point.

K: Yeah. I don't think I cried the first time with this one. It wasn't until the second book that I cried.

C: That I understand too. Yep.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: I don't think my biggest cry is book five, but a little bit in three. this one, not so much.

K: Really? We'll get there I guess, I don't have to... Yeah, I can't... Yeah.

C: Ha!

M: ⁓ it's... Life man.

C: Okay. Great.

K: Yeah.

C: All right. Was there an unlikable character who won you over in the end? I think this is definitely a question we'll revisit further into the series, but I do feel like reading the first time I read through it, I wasn't a big fan of Lucien. But you go through the book, I do feel like he is one character that you kind of, not that you didn't like him in the beginning, but he's just kind of standoffish. But as you get to know him more and go through the books, even a little bit in the first book, but more into the second and third, I feel like he's a character that I've. Grown to like more. And it definitely helps listening to the dramatized version with who the voice actor is.

M: Hehehe.

K: You

C: Because if you listen to the dramatized version of Fourth Wing it is the voice of Xaden who is the voice of Lucien. So it's just like, do I like Lucien because of the voice or the actual character? Who

K: Hello.

M: Thanks. A little bit the first time I read it without knowing what was coming, I would say Rhysand because the very first thing you get with him, horror, violence, them, all of that. So that was probably my first impression, but doing a second pass, I'd have to Lucien as well. I actually liked Lucien a lot more in the beginning, the first time I read it and started off not liking him as much this reread. So I kind of had a flop reaction, which probably

K: Mm-hmm.

M: Dude already reading the series.

C: Okay.

K: I'm probably just gonna say Rhysand you grow to love him either way. I can't really, I don't remember getting super attached to any of them, but Rhys, it immediately draws you in, Calanmai and you're hooked. And that you just grow to love everything he says after that.

C: I love it. do any of the characters remind you of someone in real life? don't think, at least not at this point in the story. Can I say that I know any characters well enough to compare them to somebody in real life?

M: I would agree. I think that's a question. Maybe we'll have more that we can give further on, but I think we're so in the character building stages still.

C: Okay, we'll skip that one. We'll skip that one for now then. ⁓ Would you set up a friend on a date with any of the characters in book one? I think I would have to say Lucien out of all of them because at this point, at this point, like, I don't know that I'd say I want to set someone up with Rhysand because I mean, yes, you understand why he's doing things, but he's also like all over the place. And with Tamlin, I think we've picked out enough, I don't want to say red flags, but at least yellow flags with him that I'm like,

K: So I was gonna say thank you.

C: know if I would recommend him. But I can see Lucien.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: I think he'd be fun for someone to date.

K: more stable than ⁓

C: This is true too.

K: Yeah, yeah, Tamlin is just, um, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't want to say out of control. What is the word I'm looking for? He's just, um... can't think of a word.

C: I don't know either. He's unpredictable.

K: Unpredictable. Unpredictable. Yeah, it's unpredictable.

C: Okay, he's unpredictable. Okay, I can see that too.

K: He too many temper tantrums.

C: Yeah, and I feel like it's not a good unpredictable because I feel like Rhysand is also unpredictable, but it's not in a negative ⁓ with Tamlin, he's unpredictable in a negative way.

K: Mm-hmm. Yeah, something good is gonna come from Rhysand's unpredictable. He thinks things out, you know?

C: rate. Yes, because he's smart like that. Whereas Tamlin doesn't really care enough to think it through.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: Okay, so the only other question I had in regards to this book is pick a situation from the book would you have handled it differently? So let's pick one situation from the book and go from there.

K: situation that there so many situations.

C: So the third task, the third task, having to kill three people, would you have done it differently?

M: Yeah. ⁓

K: I wouldn't have been able to do it.

C: I agree. I don't think I would have been able to do it either.

M: I don't know. That's honestly one that I can say. I, you know, if I were in that situation and I could be disconnected enough and emotionless enough in that moment to realize it's before the greater good and then follow through with what Feyre was thinking, killing herself afterwards. Probably. ⁓ Because I wouldn't be able to live with the guilt. I mean,

C: Okay.

M: I accidentally step on the cat's paw and I'm in tears for days. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that, as you know, if I hurt my baby, he can't be next to me, but I miss him because my allergies, but I love him. So, you know, I think I could do it if I had to for the greater good, but I think it's, you know, that whole, hey, train carrying all of your family members versus train care or train carrying one family member versus train carrying eight people you don't know, who are you going to save? You know, it comes down to

C: Right? Right.

K: Mm-hmm.

M: I don't know, I would like to say I think I could if it were for the greater good, but I don't know. Only if I could end it for myself after.

C: I don't. Yeah, I don't think I could do it at all.

K: Mm-mm. I don't either.

C: All right, a better situation. ⁓ Let's do Calanmai but let's do would you have gone to Calanmai or not? Because I feel like I would. And probably done exactly the same thing that Feyre did, because I would just like be wandering around trying to figure out what's going on and not knowing and just being like, oh, well, this is cool. I just want to come check it out. You know, I don't think I would have at least had the street smarts, I'm calling it for Feyre, to talk to Rhysand in the way that she does.

K: Yeah.

C: Like, I don't think I would have been able to come up with that on the spot. I think I would have just freaked out or potentially ran away.

M: I would love to say that I would have gone, but honestly in her situation, I don't know if I would have gone because I have a lot of that overthinking fear. think I would have, ⁓ my gosh, what if I get in trouble? Like that's ingrained deep math.

K: That's me. Yeah, I'm too much of a chicken and especially after all of the like creatures and stuff she's encountered. No, I'm not gonna just. I feel like my curiosity, the curiosity would have gotten the better of me and maybe would have went.

C: Exactly.

K: But I would always have that in the back of my mind. Am I going to get in trouble for this? And what if I get lost? Or what if I come across? I have overthunk it and wouldn't have gone. That's my final answer.

C: I love it. I don't think I would have been able to not go. I just would have needed to just go check it out for a few minutes and then probably leave. I think I would need to. I'd have to know where the drums are coming from. That's what it boils down to. Where are they coming from? Okay. So that is the end our fun questions in regards to ACOTAR Book One. If you did not have a chance to listen to our podcast where we deep dive into the chapters, please jump into one of those episodes. ⁓ us next time where we jump into the Book Two.

K: You Yeah.

C: A Court of Mist and Fury. ⁓ Otherwise, if you haven't read it yet, just read it, MCKay All right, last two questions and then we're done for the night. Favorite book read in April because it is officially May and another month has gone by. So I realized about a week ago that all of the books I had read in April were rereads and not new reads. So I frantically started listening to books last week. But it just so happened that I love the series that I picked up. ⁓ I am going through all of S.J. Tilly's books and ended up reading her mafia series, the Alliance series. ⁓ And so I can't say which the second, third and fourth books were so good, which I'm not a big mafia fan and I loved these books, but I think Dom was my favorite. So that would be my favorite April read. And I highly recommend that.

M: didn't do or didn't read too many through April. I only finished about six, not counting or six to eight, not counting ACOTAR. ⁓ ⁓ I have been reading Beyond the Page Bookstore Mystery series for about 11 months. And book 11 ⁓ an epilogue to A Christmas Murder. It's Lauren Elliott and it was absolutely phenomenal. For such a long book series ending on book 11, it was ⁓ picturesque ending you wanted.

K: Six.

M: while still getting everything answered without it being too rushed. It was just a perfect little bow to tie in my Agatha Christie, Miss Maple Mystery type vibe. And then of course I found another series that I jumped into right away. So that one has 28 books. So we'll see how long that one takes. But.

C: Yeah.

K: ⁓ So I was with C and most of mine were re-reads. But I did only read two others, which was Birthday Girl and Haunting Adeline. And it was definitely going to be Haunting Adeline. I didn't enjoy, yeah, Birthday Girl as much. Haunting Adeline definitely is the winner for April.

C: Yeah? Okay, so what is your favorite new read book for this year and has it changed since March? I think I said my favorite new read is In Her Own League which was my favorite March read, and I'm gonna have to stick with that one being my favorite so far for the year.

K: What did I say mine was? For the year. Did I say Lights Out or was it Nocticadia? ⁓

C: I think it was lights out because I don't think he would finish Nocticadia yet. The last time we talked about it.

K: Hold on, so wait, are we doing for the year or are doing for last month? What did you say again?

C: Both. I said for the year. What's your favorite read for the year? Just to see if it's changed.

K: ⁓ no. I don't even remember what I said my favorite was.

C: I think you said lights out because I said that was a close second, third ish for me. But Nocticadia is your favorite?

K: Um, I don't know. I'm looking back through my things and I just, I love lots of them. Nocticadia was great. Haunting Adeline was way too, um, it was way too intense to be my favorite. But I'm going to say Nocticadia.

M: I still think I'm going to go with the entire Maya's blog series, that Laura McKenzie series as my favorite for the year. Little Bean was the last book in the series and it was

C: Okay.

M: Adorable, just the best. So I would still say that's my favorite for the year. ⁓ In her own league is a close second. It was definitely the March favorite, but. Now those those Maya blog books were just what I needed in that moment, so. They take the win so far.

C: Awesome. Okay, that is all the questions that I have. So I want to post our first podcast this week. Are you guys okay with it?

K: I guess so.

C: Okay.

M: The time has come.

C: I feel like May is a great time to start and we've recorded all the episodes for the first book so that's five episodes in. So that's like a month worth of episodes that we already have recorded. So I just have to add subtitles and listen to it at least one more time to make sure it sounds okay. So I want to post it probably Thursday is what I'm thinking.

M: Okay.

C: Okay.

M: Okay.

K: Okay.

C: Do you? Do you want to listen to it before I post? Do you care?

M: Honestly, for me, my opinion, I say just post it, because you know me, I'm gonna sit there and I'm in on whatever and I don't wanna do that, because yeah, but that's just me.

K: Yeah, I'm on it. Trust your judgment.

C: Okay. Then yes, I will start posting on Thursday. ⁓ Probably create our accounts this week so we can start posting. I know I can do Instagram and Facebook daily because I can do that at the same time. TikTok might be hard.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: So I don't know if I'll get a chance to start our TikTok account this week, but my goal is to get the first podcast episode finalized so that we can post it on Thursday. ⁓ And then start posting content on Instagram and Facebook to help generate things.

K: And we're doing Spotify too. Are we posting on Spotify too?

C: So. Yes, yeah, I think we'll post on Spotify, YouTube, and I want to try and post on Apple, whatever.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: Cause I feel like people who have Apple don't have Spotify and vice versa.

K: Mm-hmm. I was talking when I was getting my hair done yesterday my My hairdresser she she has a podcast too she mentioned I Don't remember the name of it, but something she posts or she She goes through automatically post everything for her So I don't know Okay

C: Yeah, that's what this will do too. So we can have, you know, I we can post on multiple more than just Spotify. Those are the big ones that I know of. When I'm looking through and finalizing the first episode, I'll look through the list of things that it'll automatically post to. And then I can send it over to you guys and we can go from there. Because, I mean, the more place we post, the more possible...

K: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

C: viewership, so might as well. Okay?

K: Okay, we need to work on, well I need to work on, I've been putting it off using the whole AI thing that I need to work on. ⁓ Those images we were talking about.

C: Okay. I will probably the one that I sent to you guys that was like kind of a story background that faded into black. And then I had some books at the bottom. I'm going to tweak that a little bit to try and make it a little bit more starry night and then start posting a guitar book one quotes as part of a way to generate an audience to watch the podcast.

K: Okay. to.

M: Okay. Like teasers.

C: because I've yeah, I've been putting it off too. And if I start, I'll get to a point where I just keep changing things and I won't be able to decide on anything. So I'm like, this is good enough for now. We can change it down the road, but at least I feel like we need to start, we need to start doing it. So once I create the accounts, I'll send you guys like the info.

K: Mm-hmm.

C: So you can log in and if you want to quote or quote, you want to post things, feel free to. ⁓ I can send you a picture of just the background and then if you guys decide to post something using it, you can. ⁓ I think Kay, you've already sent. What is it called? Our logo picture? We'll call it our logo picture. I think you've already sent all that to us. So I will use that as like our image for when we're posting the podcast itself.

K: Yeah. Am I still creating ⁓ the one for like, feel like we said something about a cauldron and yeah. ⁓ I don't know where I put that paper, but I can do something like that too if you want me to.

C: We did. Okay, I mean, it's up to you if you have time to work on something, great. Because I feel like we should just start posting something even if it's nothing crazy. ⁓ We can always change it down the road or just start posting different backgrounds. But I figured if we at least started doing something, then we are one step closer.

K: Mm-hmm. Okay, well start throwing out like descriptions and stuff of what we want in the in the picture in our chat just so I can guide the AI whatever to create what we want it to look like.

C: Sounds good.