speaker-1: Good evening. I was worried, I was driving in where we live and man it was storming and hail was coming down, little bits of hail. I thought well that's not good. But the Lord has cleared the weather a little bit and we just thank you that you can all be here. All right, let's pray and then we're going to look at some things together. Let's borrow a heads loop. Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this opportunity to. ⁓

speaker-0: Good evening.

speaker-1: present scripture and where we're at and where things are heading and just ask for your spirit, to guide the speakers and the receivers of the word and block out any interference. ⁓ Any distractions, anything that would impede our understanding and our knowledge. To your honor and glory in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. All right, so just a brief overview. So I'll be speaking first and Pastor Dawson second. Ken will back clean up. We'll have a little Q and A at the end. And we each have our own set of PowerPoint slides. And we will go ahead here and get started. All right. Thank you, by the way, the, and this is live streaming tonight as well. And I wanna actually start here with a very important prophetic text. Maybe we don't think of it in those terms. Matthew 10, 18, you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. This surely is a text of prophecy. It may not be a timed or date set text, but it's very specific, and it's very specific because it talks about you and me. It doesn't say you might get ⁓ brought before governors and kings, it says you will be. And so, of all the prophecies in the Bible, I think this is one of them that we can take to heart most closely because it does relate to us. So then the question is, if you're brought before governors and kings, the singular question is, What are you gonna be asked to give a testimony about? What's the topic? What will be the topic du jour when those kings and governors bring you before them? And I think we know the answer to that. The argument is gonna be Sabbath versus Sunday. That is the argument. Scripture tells us that. And so we don't have to wonder. We don't have to, I mean that's, when they bring you before them, that is clearly what we're gonna need to address. We have, in this prophecy series, I thank Kenneth for a lot of this. He has highlighted, maybe exposed, brought to light the Christian nationalist movement, which is bubbling beneath the surface out there. It's bubbling with more intensity than it before. Back in the 1800s, it was called what? The National Reform Movement. Well, it's not called the National Reform Movement anymore. It's called Christian nationalism. It's got rebranded, remarketed. Maybe it has a little more appeal to certain minds. Of course, it's evident to Adventists and others, a few others, follow the fourth commandment to worship ⁓ the God, our creator on the Sabbath. And so every conceivable argument's gonna be thrown against us. And again, what's the topic? The topic is Sabbath versus Sunday. And we're told we're gonna be brought before governors and kings and so forth. So if every conceivable argument is gonna be thrown against us, I want to bring an argument that I think maybe has gotten a little bit lost in history here. A new date to know, October 4, 1582. This one may not ring a bell. But it surely should. And as Adventists, we often know our dates and we know our history. You you look at this one, well that's not October 22, 1844, no it's not that one. Well it's not Martin Luther nailing the 95 theses to the door of the chapel at Wittenberg, that would be October 31, 1517. Nor is it any of the other dates in our history. So why is this one kind of falling off the radar screen? And I want to ⁓ talk about, just briefly, a little conversation. By the way, I'll freely confess, in the past few months I've been more bold in... ⁓ warning friends, colleagues, coworkers of the coming battle that's coming between Sabbath and Sunday. A lot of are already well versed with it. A colleague of mine in Nashville, he does what I do, always in the Nashville area, I was talking about this, and he goes, oh yeah, you're talking about Christian nationalism. I was like, wow, okay. And then I had another conversation with an attorney in Houston. I've known him for a long time. He's not Seventh-day Adventist. I don't think he's much of anything. And ⁓ so we were talking, the topic was custom or tradition. and as it occurs in medical practice sometimes. And we were looking for examples, and I knew where I wanted to go with this, and I said to him, this attorney, I said, do you go to church? By the way, I know the answer to this in advance. I said, do you go to church? Now, I'm not ugly about it, but I to go to church. He goes, no, I don't go to church. I said, if you went to church, what day would you go on? He goes, well, I'd go on Sunday. Okay, I said, why would you go on Sunday? I said, is that not an example of customer tradition when the Bible says on Sabbath? And this is what he came back with. He wasn't ugly about it. He goes, but wasn't the calendar changed? Wasn't the calendar changed? And so, yeah, the calendar was changed. And now that date right back here, where is it at? Did I pass it already? There it is, October 4, 1582. Yeah, it surely was changed. And so, There was a flaw though. The Julian calendar, think Julius Caesar, was instituted in 45 BC and was used for 15 centuries but was not entirely accurate. It assumed the solar year to be 365 and a quarter day long, but it was actually 11 minutes and 14 seconds short of that number. And you say, wow, that's not a lot. Well, it adds up. The result was that the calendar drifted about one day for every 315 years. And this adds up over time. That was the flaw. But there was a problem. And this is in the Middle Ages. One of the most pressing problems was caused by the error increasing the difficulty of calculating the date of Easter, which the Council of ⁓ Nicaea, did I say that?

speaker-0: Nice to see you.

speaker-1: Nicaea, thank you, in 325 had decreed, and this will not be on the test, Easter should fall on the first Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox, which at the time fell on March 21. But there was a growing discrepancy between the date set by the council and the actual vernal equinox was noted to be a problem in the 8th century. And a number of proposals for reform were brought before popes in the Middle Ages. But no action was taken, and the Julian calendar, flawed as it was, remained the official calendar of the Christian church. So time marched on. In 1562, the Council of Trent passed a decree calling for the Pope to fix the problem by implementing a reform calendar. But it took another two decades to find a suitable fix and put it in place. And after years of consultation and research, Pope Gregory XIII signed a papal bull in February of 1582 promulgating the reform calendar that became known as the Gregorian calendar. So that was kind of nifty. You name it after yourself. And the reforms were based on the suggestion of an Italian scientist there with some modifications by the Jesuit mathematician and astronomer, Christopher Clavius? Clavius. Clavius, yeah. So we had some Jesuit influence on the calendar as well there. Anyway, here's the papal bull. Inter gravissimus. My Latin's not so good. This papal bull announced in February of 1582 that that year was going to have a 10-day shift in the calendar in order to realign the dates of the spring equinoxes with the solar calendar. It was decided by the commission that that 10-day shift should happen in October, moving in from October 4 directly to October 15 because it didn't conflict with any important feasts or major saints days during that time. So they picked this time in October because basically nothing was going on.

speaker-2: We had to add 10 days because of the time that was accumulating.

speaker-1: Well, that's a point. Three things happened here in this papal bull. The Julian calendar was abolished and the Gregorian calendar was instituted and 10 days were removed from the calendar. And so what did that calendar look like? Well, it looked like this. That's the calendar of October 1582. Look at Thursday the 4th and look at Friday the 15th. What do you see missing there?

speaker-0: Oh, it's not a day.

speaker-1: You see, 10 days were just knocked off the calendar. They don't exist. There never was an October 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, etc. in 1582. It didn't exist. So 10 days were removed from the calendar. Does that calendar interfere with the weekly architecture in any way, shape, or form? No, it doesn't. Thursday is followed by Friday? Yes, it is. And so 10 days were removed, but the weekly cycle was not interfered with at all. And this is October 4, 1582. Do you think this went over really well? No, it really didn't. In Protestant and Eastern Orthodox countries, the Gregorian calendar reform wasn't implemented at first. It would take years to be introduced. As a result, some protests against the calendar came centuries later. And when countries finally made their respective shifts, I think 1752, that's when England and the American colonies, that's us, implemented it, it went over so badly that people rioted and it became known as the calendar riots. So this was a big deal. There was backlash. We had an anti-Gregorian astronomer, I won't pronounce his name, he even scared people by claiming that the pope had literally stolen 10 days off of everyone's lives. We had a German theologian there who called the pope, he's a calendar maker, and the Roman antichrist. And so you can see the transition from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar was slow in the Protestant countries and around the world. You'll see there England and the American colonies, 1752. Look at the far right there, Communist China, 1949. and Russia at the end of World War I. So this calendar was not adopted all at the same time, same way, same place. The German Catholic states, well they got on board in 1583, the French right the year before, but the German Protestants states they didn't get on board until 1700. But can you imagine ⁓ commencing ⁓ business and commerce with different calendars? And that was a challenge. It's hard when someone's on one day and you're on the other and so forth. But eventually everyone came on board. So did our Adventist pioneers know of this calendar change? Of course they did. If the calendar change was adopted in the colonies and in England in 1752, and of course a lot of our pioneers did their work in the early 1800s, yeah they did. ⁓ Kenneth actually shared with me a really good ⁓ piece of work that Josiah Litch and so forth, the ⁓ six trumpet, the interpretation of all the dates, yeah. I'm not saying all of our parent-tears had a perfect understanding, some did, but the ones that most of them did. So let's just summarize here. To summarize, 10 days were removed from the calendar, but the weekly cycle was not changed or interrupted in the least. And the date changed, but not the day. Thursday was followed by Friday, and the weekly cycle has gone on uninterrupted. And as for my lawyer friend in Houston who was wondering, I actually mailed him a copy from Sabbath to Sunday. And I told him, I said, this will shed some light on it. I have a few here if you're interested afterwards. By the way, we'll have a little Q &A at the end. But if you're interested, I have a few copies here to give away. It's not a complete work, but it's a nice primer. And so I say, you know, Matthew 10, 18, we're going to be brought before governors and kings. That's prophetic. And we're going to give a testimony. And that testimony is on the Sabbath. And it's going to come up. There's going to be arguments against it, every conceivable argument that you can think of. And I have no doubt that the calendar change is going to be one of them. Now is our chance to reinforce our understanding of it. Pastor Dawson. ⁓ I'm sorry.

speaker-2: There was nothing wrong with the solar calendar. The sun was still doing its thing at the time per 24 hours, but because they were counting it the extra quarter day, the calendar year was moving from the solar year, so they were diverging. And so that's one of the good things that happened out of the Vatican Observatory and everything else. They brought the calendar year and the solar year back together.

speaker-1: And so it is fascinating that Pope Gregory XIII, he actually did the right thing. And ⁓ the Protestant world hated it, it ⁓ was eventually adopted, but it didn't interrupt the weekly cycle at all.

speaker-0: Amen. Well, think that this is a good introduction into my topic. I think that we should be prepared to give ⁓ an argument for why we believe how we believe and understand the common objections to our doctrines. And I think we should be more prepared because of what's going on in the world today. And so my update, my section, I'm going to cover a broad sweep of the landscape right now. America, other countries, primarily America because America is doing a lot right now. ⁓ And just kind of show you where we are in the stream of time in relation to prophecy. So the big idea, what I'm going to follow here is what I call the waymarks. Ellen White has much to say about... prophecy and what's coming. And I think that we can clearly see where we are in the stream of time when we relate ⁓ current events to her prophetic writings. what she says and I think this one kind of frames my topic today very well she says through the two great errors the immortality of the soul and Sunday's sacredness Satan will bring the people under his deceptions while the former lays the foundation of Spiritualism the latter creates a bond of sympathy with Rome So we see two great errors that lead to two great compromises immortality of the soul leading down to spiritualism and Sunday sacredness leading to a bond of sympathy with Rome. And then she says that the Protestants of the United States will be the foremost in stretching their hands across the Gulf to grasp the hand of spiritualism. And later on she says also the Protestants will be the ones foremost in uniting with Catholicism in Rome. And so where should we be looking if we're looking to see this fulfilled? We should be looking at the Protestants of the United States, right? I'm not pulling that out of thin air. So if we look at the Protestants of the United States, and we can see where they are in the progression of reaching their hand to grasp spiritualism and reaching their hand to grasp Roman Catholicism, and that can show us where we are in the stream of time. And so that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to divide into two sections. We're going to first cover Catholicism, Protestantism, the union of church and state, Sunday law progressions. persecution mindset's growing, Christian nationalism, a broad sweep. ⁓ Ken's going to dig deeper into those things. And then I'm going to cover in the second section the inroads of spiritualism in a lot of Protestant churches and what's going on with Christianity. Sound good? So first, there's a lot of golden age discussion going on in the ⁓ political sphere with Trump. He says here, ⁓ We are on the verge of the greatest comeback in history. A golden age of American greatness is coming. The best is yet to come. You know how he is. He's bringing this idea that we are on the verge of greatness again. Make America great again. And this is not only Trump who's saying these things, but a lot of the people in his office have this golden age language. I don't have time to cover all of it, but there's ton of it. I'll just tell you what it is. So this is a political message. It's basically giving the idea that our nation has declined, but we're going to restore it to greatness. And this golden age language creates a sense of hope, but a sense of urgency as well. It's a sense of decisiveness and change. It's calling people to rally around a shared national identity, which is where Christian nationalism is as well. The idea that we as a nation are blessed by God. and God wants us to step into our identity. And it implies a turning point, that things have been a certain way, but we're entering a new age and things are going to change. And so in practice, historically this has included trying to restore national strength, moral, cultural values, foundational principles, and a common vision for the nation. And why does this matter? There's a couple things for this one. Number one, prophecy expects a shift in America's character, does it not? It says that the second beast will have horns like a lamb, but then speak like a dragon. There's a shift that happens. And I think this Golden Age narrative is a great place for this turning point in history and a justification for these shifts. This restoration language also can lead to moral enforcement and has in the past. Historically, when a nation says we've lost our way, we need to return to our way. We need to get back to our roots. And so then, if you're going to get back to your roots, if you're going to figure out what your Golden Age is, You have to define what that is and then promote it and then legislate it and bring enforcement. And so this is where things could easily move with this type of language. You see this move from the influence to an expectation and then pressure and enforcement. Also, it prepares people to accept these unifying measures. When they believe that the nation is in decline or in crisis and that there's a possibility for a golden age or something greater, it becomes leads to more rationalization and justification for strong leadership, sweeping reforms and unity at any cost. You see this with ⁓ the regime of Hitler. Hitler promised a thousand year Reich, where things would be better and he was going to bring us to that place in Germany and people were willing to accept some crazy things that they wouldn't have otherwise accepted because of this ideal that we're going to be a great nation and things are going to get better and it led to lot of justifications of what Hitler did. It also creates an us versus them framework. You can see a lot of this in Trump's ⁓ policies and in the way he speaks is it's America versus the world and we're gonna focus on ourselves. Nothing against Trump. I think if you guys know me at all, I'm not political. I don't care whether you're blue or red or black or what. ⁓ It's just a matter of what's happening. But he's creating this framework where it's an us versus them. There's those who are For us and those who are against us, have a mission, we have a vision as a nation, and if you're not on board with that, you're an enemy. You're not part of it. And Ellen White warns us that Sabbath keepers are gonna be those who are seen as enemies of law and order, and the ones who are causing the problems and not getting on board with the program. And that brings me to the second part of this where there's a big push to bring the United States back to God right now. This is also Trump, he says this in one of his, this was in February. He had this discussion and he says, have to bring religion back. We have to bring it back much stronger. It's one of the biggest problems we've had over the last fairly long period of time. We have to bring it back. God has a special plan and a glorious mission for America and that plan is going to happen. It's going to happen. I hope it happens sooner rather than later. We're bringing back religion in our country and we're bringing it back quickly and strongly. crazy coming from a president. I mean, if he's just any other influential figure, sure. But coming from the president in a position of political power, where there's a separation of church and state, for the state to say that we need to get back to the church is a momentous thing for us. And we should pay attention to that. Not only Trump saying these things, there's a bunch of intentional designed events that are going on right now. have a, in April 18, there's a ⁓ week long push to bring America back to the Bible. It's called America Reads the Bible. You can watch it online, April 18th to 25th. There's an opening celebration and then it's based on the reforms of Ezra and Nehemiah that the nation has wandered from God and we need to get back. Just like Ezra and Nehemiah read the book of the law, they want to have America read the Bible. They're streaming it, all this kind of stuff. It's a push for the nation to become back to religion. There's also Rededicate 250, this national event. This is led by the president from the Oval Office, this idea that we need to rededicate the nation to God. And May 17th is going to be this time of jubilee, prayer, praise, and thanksgiving from their own website to bring America back to God, to rededicate the nation to God. So we see that a lot of Protestant pushing towards this. We see the ⁓ national legislation pushing towards this. We see the bishops of the United States wanting to consecrate the nation to God, to the sacred heart of Jesus, my bad. Along with the 250th anniversary, there's a bunch, I don't have time again, to cover all of the systematic efforts to bring our country back to God this year, but a lot's happening. And so this is a growing movement that's saying our nation's future depends on returning to God. It's coming in organized, visible ways with large-scale events, ceremonies, and messaging that's tied to our anniversary as a turning point. And the idea behind it all is America has been blessed because of God, because we've been faithful to God and we've received God's blessing. We are a Christian nation and we're declining because we're moving away from God. And a lot of this is true on an individual level. A lot of our nation has drifted from where it once was. But because of this, we can be restored if we return to God and we're going to do that from the top down. This is a movement to reconnect the national identity with faith and to bring back God to the center. of the nation. And this matters because it blends religion with a national identity. This is very dangerous. I want you to notice this different. Instead of saying individuals should follow God, which is what we believe, individuals should choose to follow God. No, it's the nation must return to God. And that means that the nation gets to decide what God we return to and what we do with that God and what laws we follow and what that looks like. And so when it becomes the nation deciding, rather than the individual, then it leads to the coercion of the individual conscience for the sake of the nation. And so it shifts the emphasis of religion from a personal conviction to a national expectation. And it matters because prophecy points to this, that the same second beast is going to make all receive a mark on their hand or their forehead, and that no one can buy or sell unless they receive that mark. It also creates the foundation for church-state cooperation. When you have the religious leaders saying the same thing as the political leaders, and the political leaders saying the same thing as the cultural leaders, and they're all working towards the same spiritual goal, it's naturally going to lead towards them collaborating towards a shared message, shared objectives, and shared legislation, laws, and policies. Finally, this matters because it creates a moral urgency tied to national survival. The underlying message that I think we see Ellen White talk about is going to get more intense as we get closer, is if we don't return to God, things are going to get worse. the nation's gonna collapse. We're gonna be in dire straits. And so it creates a urgency and a pressure related to the idea of getting back to God. And then those who don't get along with this idea of returning to God are going to be seen not only as extremists or whatever, but they're gonna be seen as a threat to the prosperity of the nation and a threat to safety. And that's a problem. Next we have the rise of Christian nationalism. I'm not going to cover this in depth. It's a deep rabbit hole if you want to dig into it. But I have a short little video. This is not a Christian woman as far as we know. She might be Christian, she's not Adventist. This is live news. And this is what she says. Separation of church and state was created to prevent governments from picking religions and religions from picking governments. But on National Prayer Day, the president of the United States said something no predecessor ever would.

speaker-2: They say separation between church and state, they told me. said, all right, let's forget about that for one time.

speaker-0: The word separation of church and state aren't actually in the Constitution. They come from an 1802 Thomas Jefferson letter who called for a quote, eternal separation between church and state. But over time, the courts interpreting the First Amendment have made it the law of the land. Under Trump, however, we have seen that wall systematically eroded in favor of a particular brand of Christian nationalism. Let's start with the head of the White House Faith Office, Pastor Paula White Cane. When it became clear Trump was losing the 2020 election, she appeared on a live streamed prayer service and called on literal angels to secure his reelection. Then there's Attorney General Pam Bondi sharing the task force to quote eradicate anti-Christian bias unquote in a country where 87 % of Congress identifies as Christian or Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick who has pushed for the Ten Commandments in public schools while sharing the religious Liberty Commission It's even in the military last week Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth invited a self-described Christian nationalist pastor to leave a prayer service at the Pentagon, a pastor who has publicly advocated for repealing women's right to vote and in his 1996 book argued that slavery promoted quote, affection between the races unquote in the South. To be clear, Christian nationalism is not Christianity. Christian nationalism is the belief that America was founded as a fundamentally Christian nation and should be governed as such. A stunning new poll this week found that as many as one in three Americans are either adherents or sympathizers with Christian nationalism. Among Republicans, that number jumps to more than half. Thomas Jefferson wrote his separation of church and state letter in 1802 because he understood something fundamental. The wall he described wasn't built to keep faith out of America. It was built to keep the government from deciding whose faith counts. So I think I don't really need to say much more on that. This is not an Adventist and she's seeing the signs of the times that this is a she called it a systematic breakdown of the separation between church and state. And she there she mentioned this poll. It was by P.R.R.I. They did a poll over three and 10 Americans are sympathizers with this idea of Christian nationalism. Thirty percent of the United States and over 50 percent of Republicans are on board with the idea. Christian nationalism which is that our faith should govern our laws Which is very dangerous as we know this is Trump it there's a official that Trump had an office in the 2020 election. I mean the 2016 election He was not. So basically he used to be the deputy assistant secretary of defense at the Pentagon and the director of legislative affairs at the Department of State. He's a pastor and he said this right here. Frankly, yes, we are going to impose it upon you, our religion. He added, if you don't like it, I'm sorry, but this is good and right and just if it lines up with God's moral standards. And I'm going to enforce my morality on you in as much as our morality is God's morality. This is someone who was voted in as a representative of the United States government. And this is the mindset that's in Christian nationalism. You're going to be enforced with my morality because my morality is God's morality. And they get to decide what that is. There's lots of news about this, this Christian nationalist vision for America that Trump is pushing. I can't go into all the details, I don't have time. But basically... Christian nationalism will be covered more. It's the idea that Americans should be a Christian nation and the government should reflect that on an identity level, on an influence level, and eventually on a policy level. We should make laws that promote Christian values and that includes Sunday. This is a core issue for us and it should definitely raise red flags for each one of us. Regardless of your political beliefs, this is church and state coming together. Blatantly, openly. And it's going to move from protecting the faith to promoting a specific faith and to pushing that faith. And we know how that goes. It's going to create a majority support for religious influence in our laws. And it's going to reframe dissent as harmful to society. Ellen White talks about this church-state union being driven by public demand. And I'm about to show you the next section. There is a growing public demand for a Sunday law. And that's what we're going to look at now. Project 2025, I'm sure you guys have all heard of that. I won't go into too much detail. It's basically a set of policies that a bunch of influential Protestant people have put together and want to see implemented in our nation. In that Project 2025 document, it says this, God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest and until very recently, the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Moreover, a shared day off makes it possible for families and communities to enjoy time off together rather than atomized individuals and provides a healthier cadence of life for everyone. Unfortunately, that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low income workers. So basically they're pushing for a communal day of rest and I'm sure you know what day that's going to be. And just so you don't think that ⁓ yeah, these random people are saying we should do that. Trump is almost halfway through implementing Project 2025. Over 50 % of the policies written in Project 2025 were already implemented in the first six months of his presidency this term. And so we're even closer to that now. If you want to look where we're at in the progress, you can look up a Project 2025 tracker online, and it's actively tracking every policy in that. in that agenda and where it is at in the stream of being implemented and legislated, if you want to. Additionally, not only in the government, but we see the media, a huge push. Americans need a break, maybe blue laws can help. The idea that America is tired and blue laws can help us with rest. The idea that the country, not only the country, but the world is hurting because of climate change. And a green Sabbath can help the country and the climate and the world. Remember the Sabbath day to stop global warming, right? Not to keep it holy, but to stop global warming. Make Sunday boring again. How an end of week shutdown could save us all. Honoring the Sabbath is not just a suggestion, and the Sabbath for them is Sunday. Is the Sabbath dead in America? The case for reviving a day of rest. Bringing back the blue laws. There's a lot of people discussing this right now. It's an idea that we need to get back to rest. We've been overworked as a nation. And the global sphere is suffering because of our overwork, and we need to rest. Whether you do it for religious reasons or just for family or for the globe, whatever it is, we've got a flavor of Sunday rest for you. And this is in, I don't have time to cover all these, it's in the news. It's in ⁓ Twitter posts. So it's not just media, it's also the individuals. The idea here, I'd like to see blue laws be reinstated and the idea of a Sabbath rest rediscovered. Here talking about blue laws as a legitimate recognition of Christianity in the state. My humble prayer is that the state of Texas bring back the blue laws sometime in my lifetime to restore Sunday as the Lord's Day of Rest for all minimum wage workers. All of these types of things, there's a lot of people discussing this stuff. This is a picture of Christian nationalism in a Twitter post. One of the things they want to do is, among all these other things, reinstate the blue laws. This is a very popular ⁓ Twitter page, over almost 500,000 followers. And they say, I'm old enough to remember when Sundays were for family and all the stores were closed. It's this subtle messaging in many different spheres and avenues right now that, wouldn't it be nice if we just had a shared day of rest? Wouldn't it be nice? So it's coming from the top down. It's coming from the bottom up. We used to have Sunday laws. This is really old document. I think it was written in like the 1700s, something like that. It says here, whoever shall profane the Lord's day by doing unnecessary servile work, da da da da da, such a person therein defiling and reproaching the Lord shall be put to death or grievously punished at the judgment of the court. So this is not new. It's happened before, but we are moving back towards these things. I don't really need to dig into why this matters, but it's a step-by-step progression. It goes from a suggestion, this is kind of what you see in a lot of these media posts, we should have a day of rest. And then it goes into encouragement. This is good for families, it's good for the globe, it's good for your religion, and then we normalize it. Most people already keep Sunday anyways, right? And so let's preserve this day, let's put some legal protection behind it. And then, you know, just so the minimum wage workers aren't forced, let's close all the stores and we'll just make it good. And then, you know, you're not getting along with the program. We're going to have to increase the violations, the penalties, and you know where it goes from there. Next, bridging the gap. The idea, this is directly what Ellen White says about bridging the gap between the Protestant world and the Catholic world. I have my little subtitle, the Counter-Reformation Has Worked. And it has. There's lots of discussions about this as well. A bridge towards Christian unity, ecumenical movements. This news post said, U.S. Protestants are not defined by the Reformation era controversies 500 years later. 500 years after the Reformation, only about half of the Protestant Christians say that faith alone is enough to get into heaven, sola fide, and that the Bible provides all the guidance Christians need. Sola Scriptura. completely being undermined now by the majority of over half of Christians. And so because of this, US Catholics and Protestants agree. After 500 years of the Reformation, they have more in common than not. Has the Catholic Church changed? No. The Protestants have changed. And so there's all these discussions about why the Protestants and Catholics need to just come together. And we need to bridge this gap, right? Not for the school, but for the world church. And to kind of show you just this, like I said, this is a very broad landscape. I don't have time to dig into each one of these. You should do some research. In 2025, Pope Leo is one of the most favorably viewed people in the world. The Pope. Everybody loves the Pope. Millions go to see the Pope. Why would we not look to the Pope? And that's just, if you took this poll 500 years ago, it would be totally different. 500 years ago, the Protestants knew why they were protesting, Protestants. They knew why they were Protestants. 500 years later, most of them have no idea. And that's a problem. So finally, my section on this is precursors to persecution. His name is Joel Webin. He is a Christian nationalist. And I'm just going to show you some of his ideas as a snapshot of a lot of the ideas that are going on in the Christian nationalist mindset.

speaker-1: some of them being civic laws, civil codes. And I would say that the ones that specify the death penalty, that according to the Noate Covenant, Genesis chapter 9, there's actually only one crime, not only a sin, but it's also a crime, that merits or mandates even capital punishment, and that is the taking of someone's life. In the case of adultery or the case of breaking blue laws, which we have in the books here in America for quite a long time, Sabbath laws or blasphemy. laws or these kinds of things, wherever the death penalty is mentioned, I would see that as ⁓ that would be a maximum penalty. So the state of Texas, you you see signs, don't mess with Texas,

speaker-2: Yeah.

speaker-1: I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who's doing hard time in prison right now. like, I've here three and a half years, 18 more months to go, I threw a Coke bottle out the window. And so what I would say is for repeat, incessant offenders, homosexuality, instance, not police going into private homes, but if someone is trying to indoctrinate children, they're riding paraphernalia, they're leading parades that are grotesque, egregious, where people are nude, they've done it And again and again and again and again, they've received certain fines, certain penalties, they've been told to cease and desist, it's been years, they continue, then yes, it could raise all the way up as a maximum penalty to that point. So that's how I look at the altism. I agree with what you're

speaker-2: Well, so for the same, the same would be for blasphemy and adultery, for example. Repeat offenders could theoretically face the death note.

speaker-1: Theoretically, a repeat offender won't

speaker-0: So I don't know if you could hear him very well. Basically he's saying a repeat offender. on certain issues could face the death penalty ultimately. He thinks that's biblical and that's good what we should do because in the Old Testament for the things where people were sentenced to death, know, in adultery in the Old Testament, you were put to death, you were stoned and if you broke the Sabbath, you were stoned. So we should do that again in our nation, right? And they get to decide what that is. What's the Sabbath for them? It's Sunday. And so basically repeat offenders. How often are you going to break the Sabbath law? Every Sabbath. So if you're a Pete offender, ultimately you could face a death penalty. That's the mindset. And that's what he wants to push. he's not the only one. And just so you guys are aware of the mindset among the majority of the Protestant world, a lot of people don't consider Seventh-day Adventist Christians. This is an MSN blog post, a news article, why Seventh-day Adventists are not considered Christians. This has been an ongoing discussion. It's not new. There's been a lot of up and downs. The people who really do their research know that Seventh-day Adventists are Christians, but the majority of people will argue that they're not because we don't follow a lot of the creeds, because we keep a weird day of rest, because we're not in harmony with a lot of the traditions of the church. I'm not going to call them the biblical teachings. We're not in harmony with their traditions. We don't have the same view on the state of the dead. We have this weird thing called the investigative judgment, and we believe Jesus is in the heavenly sanctuary, and we keep the Jewish Sabbath, and we believe that your works kind of matter, at least a little bit, and they show that you're following Jesus. And all of these things together make a lot of the Protestant world say that Seventh-day Adventists are not Christians. And so this is important because when the Christian nationalism comes in and they start enforcing Christian teachings, We are already on a downhill slope. We're on the bad side of the field for people to look at us and say, you guys aren't Christians. You're cults, you're fringe, and this is kind of where we're at with that. That ends my first section. I don't really have time to cover the second section. I'm going to basically hit you with the highlights. There's an idea of baptized spiritualism. I don't know if you guys noticed the prayer of Trump's lady. Did you hear that? Amat-ta-ra-ka-t. That's speaking in tongues, isn't it? And so this is kind of what we're getting into in this section is a lot of the Christianity today is already influenced with spiritualism. There's a huge push for non-biblical spiritual practices. We're not going to get into all of this, but you guys can look around and you'll see it. There's private revelation, mystical experiences, supernatural manifestations. Basically the idea that my experience, my personal interaction with God is the the indicator of what my doctrine is, what I believe, who God is to me, it doesn't really matter what the Bible says, it matters about how I feel and what my experience is with God. If an angel comes to me and says something, that has more authority than God and the Bible, because that's God, not the Bible. Or if I want to find God through these other avenues, that's just as fine. I can still be a Christian and do those things. Biblically, that's not true, but this is kind of where the language is going. People are keeping the Christian label while doing astrology, tarot cards, manifestation, energy language, synchronistic spirituality. It's crazy. Pew found in 2025, 30 % of US adults consult astrology, tarot cards, and fortune tellers. And over a quarter of Christians believe astrology has an impact on human destiny. I'm not going to get into all this. A big one, this guy, I'm sure a lot of you know him. This is Jesus from The Chosen. He is a... High up in the Knights of Malta, ⁓ self-proclaimed, ⁓ follows a lot of Jesuit teachings, and he has helped institute this Halo app. I don't know if you guys have seen the Halo app. It's an app that basically goes step-by-step through how to do ⁓ Ignatius spiritualistic practices, contemplative prayer and meditation and Catholic things. And it's not posed as a Catholic app directly. It is a Catholic app, but it's... been pushed on the Protestant world as well. And it's kind of this ecumenical idea and it's bringing people into spiritualism. ⁓ Here's about the contemplative prayer. There's also near-death experiences. This is a huge thing and it goes right along with what LMI said. The immortality of the soul idea will lead people into spiritualism. People die and go to heaven and they realize, you know, that we had it all backwards, right? You can look on YouTube and find hundreds of these near-death experiences. You can go on the news and find all of this. And so from the ground level, Satan is working to bring spiritualism into the Christian church, and most people have no idea. The idea that when I die, I go to heaven has led people to think they died and went to heaven and talked to Jesus or talked to a loved one. A huge thing, this is a study, many people report meeting loved ones who already died. There's commonalities through all near-death experiences. Most people report meeting loved ones who died, and there's spiritual themes across their discussions. Right? Not everyone sees family. Some people see Jesus. They see angels. They see divine beings that communicate with them and give them spiritual guidance. And so we know what that is, right? This is direct spiritualism. And a lot of people believe this because the Bible teaches when you die, you go to heaven, right? And so I just died and I went to heaven and I was brought back and I spoke to people in heaven. And so how could that not be true? How could that not be true? There's also a growing, this is a big area. I don't have time to cover this either. There's a growing discussion on UFOs and aliens and their relation to spiritualism and even Christianity. ⁓ Trump said that based on the tremendous interest, he's going to be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments to release all their information on UFOs and aliens. The president is saying, let's talk about aliens. I'm gonna show you what we've got about UFOs. Here's one last video and then I'm gonna end my time. ⁓ it's not.

speaker-2: but they you know you know jesus is real right this moment because the forgiveness that i'm exercising by drinking this bloodline right now that's jesus jesus is everywhere is in this room he's in the world he's in the universe by the aliens that you watch the desperately to be real or have the concept of the media that's jesus that is jesus as a christian after believe in forgiveness Beautiful. Cheers.

speaker-0: Isn't that, sorry, it irks me every time I watch it. That's like heresy. ⁓ But yeah, this is a big thing that's going on right now. Joe Rogan podcast, that's what that was. A lot of people watch that. A lot of people my age go and watch those kind of things for entertainment and hear these discussions and these ideas are being planted. Jesus, he's just a universal good. He's the manifestation and the aliens, that's Jesus. The spiritual energy, that's Jesus. It's all Jesus and we just need to come together. There's the discussions on maybe Jesus was actually an alien that came down to give us good news and in the second coming is when Jesus is going to return and tell us that we're going to destroy our planet unless we get back on track. Right? And there's, ⁓ there's one more video. Sorry, this one's really important too. This is a occultist. is a, he's in the occult, he has discussions with ⁓ a divine female spiritual being and talks, it talks in relation to UFO encounters. And this is what he says that lead us into 2026 And you have been caught, I you don't like the word profit. So, let's just call it a prediction. What was the prediction that the lady made?

speaker-2: Right. What she told me was, it was a riddle in a way. And she told me on 2013 about the thing with Iran and Israel. So was 2013 when I first got that information. And that's the year that I was asked to put it right into the Pentagon.

speaker-0: What did you see between Iran and Israel?

speaker-2: ⁓ She said when you see Israel and Iran begin to exchange missiles, and I saw them in vision, know, they give you telepathic, you see, it's like looking at a television, really. That's what it kind of looks like. She said when you see these happen, that's when we're going to come in and we're going to start waking up the population. We're going to reveal ourselves, which will change the consciousness of people. So all this new knowledge is about disclosure, it's about consciousness, and they're going to make it happen because it tames people, it opens us up, it turns us into psychic beings, it gives us power.

speaker-0: So I don't know if you heard all that. Basically he's saying... this spiritual being told him 2026 was going to be a year of awakening. And when you see Iran and Israel exchanging missile fire, that this is when we're going to begin to reveal ourselves to the people and open their consciousness and enlighten them. And this is exactly what Alice Bailey said. Alice Bailey is a huge occultist. not that occultists are prophets and know the future, but they work closely with Satan and Satan has a game plan. She said that 2025 would be the beginning of the externalization of the hierarchy. called it, which was basically when demons began to manifest and externalize themselves to humans and show publicly their doctrine. And Albert Pike, 33rd degree Freemason, the one who wrote the book on Freemasonry, Morals and Dogma, he said this, and I think it's very interesting because it goes right along with what this guy said. This was written in the 1800s. He said, Third World War must be fomented by taking advantages of the differences caused by the Adjinter and the Illuminati between the political Zionists, that's Israel, and the leaders of the Islamic world, Iran. In the 1800s, he said, there's going to be a war over Israel and Islam. And this must be conducted in such a way that Islam and Israel must mutually destroy each other. And the other nations are going to be divided on this issue and fighting to the point of exhaustion. We're going to bring out the nihilists and the atheists and cause a social cataclysm so that when they see all this, they'll see the horror of atheism and savagery and then obliged to defend themselves against the savagery. They're going to be disillusioned with Christianity and have these deistic spirits without compass or direction. They're anxious for an ideal but without knowing where to render its adoration. they will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer. In the 1800s, they said this was their plan, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this is where we're at right now. So in conclusion, like I said, this is her statement. Through the immortality of the soul and Sunday's sacredness, he's gonna bring people under his deceptions. There's the foundation laid for spiritualism and a bond of sympathy with Rome. I think I've showed you in my section, we are well on our way. and that the Protestants are big in doing this. And so this other quote is my conclusion. When Protestantism shall reach her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach her over the abyss to clasp the hands of spiritualism, and under the influence of this threefold union our country shall repudiate every principle of its constitution as a Protestant and Republican government and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come. for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. I don't know about you, but I see all of these things. Protestantism is reaching her hand to grasp Rome, reaching her hand across to spiritualism. Our country is repudiating the principles of the Constitution as we speak, and it's beginning the process of making provision for these papal falsehoods of Sunday sacredness. And so I believe that the time is near for Satan to begin his working. and that the end is here. So what are we gonna do about it? We'll talk about that at the end. That's mine. Sorry, I a little long. Yeah, I'm a little bit over

speaker-2: Okay, The spirit of prophecy quote that comes to me. Catholicism has been working for 2,000 years, roughly. And she says it's working in secret, putting everything into place. And then when everything is into place, it's going to just pop and it will just be the end and all of these events will happen rapidly and we're seeing that. I want to switch a bit to some religious and theological issues which were mentioned there but I want to clarify them a little bit. The Lutheran World Federation on May the 9th of last year, wrote a letter to the new pope, Leo XIV. and said the Lutheran World Federation has been deeply committed to the dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church began shortly after the Second Vatican Council. And what publication came out after that? The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation and the nailing of the 95 theses to the wall at Woodenburg. I don't know if any of you know much about the Joint Declaration, but the Lutherans and the Catholics spent 50 years studying justification by faith. You just type Joint Declaration on justification by faith and a 40, 50 page document will come up, which is full of terminology that just can make you dreary. But here is their main point. came out of the first part of the document, the Catholic Church also maintains with Lutherans that these good works of the justified are always the fruit of grace. But at the same time and without in any way diminishing the total divine initiative, they are the fruit of man. justified and interiorly transformed. We can therefore say that eternal life is at one and the same time grace and the reward given by God for good works and merits. Do you understand that?

speaker-1: Well, it started out good, but then it became a bunch of gobbledygook.

speaker-2: Well, you can, I had computer scan the word atonement through this document. I think it was in there one time. The document talks all around the bush about justification by faith and grace and all of this, but that last sentence, grace and the reward given by God for good works and merits. And it is the merits of Jesus that save us. There is nothing mentioned about the atonement of Jesus. And it is because of the atonement, his death on the cross as our sacrifice that he is able to offer us justification and grace to keep his commandments. And so the incredible thing here is after 500 years of total disagreement they are in lockstep. They've agreed to minimize the differences, look at the similarities and head. I mean it's just truly a remarkable thing that happened. But there is another even more remarkable thing that just happened. And I'm going to get to it here. Let me, okay. Lutheran World Federation again. These events and others continue to express our deep ecumenical hope as we look forward to the sixth phase of the International Lutheran Catholic Commission on Unity and the 500th anniversary of what? The Augsburg Confession. How many know what that is? You do, good. You're the only one. ⁓ The Protestant electors of the Holy Roman Empire, it was a do or die moment. And Charles V, the emperor, was just pressing the daylights out of them. And they asked Melanchthon and the others to write, what do we believe? And the resulting... paper was the Augsburg Confession by the Protestant electors. If you've ever seen those old movies on Luther, you can see this happening. ⁓ As you step into this ministry, they told the new pope, we hold you particularly in our prayer. May you find strength, endurance, patience and joy as you exercise your ministry, not only for the Roman Catholic Church, but for all the Christian world communions and in fact for all humanity. And so, ⁓ just a few things. Augsburg Confession can turn affirm the Trinitarian nature of God and originality of original sin, justification by faith in Christ alone, not by human effort or works, the sacraments in both kinds, the bread and the wine, if you go to the Catholic church, you only get the bread, communion of both kinds, marriage of the priest, The mass should not be a sacrifice for sins because that's what it is. Christ is recrucified every time the host is elevated. So I could go on but I'm just telling you there was such a huge difference between 1500s Protestantism and Catholicism that there is no way they could come together. But watch, well just watch. ⁓ Make it visible. Now this article, checked this dude out, Jules Gomez, religion unplugged. He is a bona fide certified licensed journalist with the Vatican and with religious news service. Listen to what he reports. In a profoundly Protestant positive appraisal of the Protestant Reformation, high ranking Vatican officials are championing what? The Augsburg Confession, a pivotal Lutheran text, highlighting it as the shared basis for Christian unity as the 500th anniversary of that document approaches in 2030. That's only, what, four years from now. Marking the week of prayer for Christian unity, Cardinal Koch, the prefect of the Dicastery for promoting Christian unity, underscored the widespread discussion about the Catholic Church possibly recognizing the document. What document? Confession of Augsburg. The authors express their fundamental conviction that it is a Catholic confession. I mean, when I read this, it just blew my mind. I hope it's blowing yours because this makes the ⁓ thing we just talked about almost nothing compared to this. Koch wrote in the Italian edition of the Vatican Daily, El Assovatore Romano, with this orientation in mind, we cannot underestimate the ecumenical significance of the Diet of Augsburg. I mean, they are absolutely gushing over each other in promoting ecumenical unity, and it doesn't really matter what the document said, we're just gonna hug each other. I mean, that's what it really boils down to. emphasizing Pope Leo XIV's resolute commitment to ecumenism archbishop Flavio. Pace probably. The Dicastery secretary stressed the significance of commemorating the confession to rediscover a common foundation and rediscover something more for our present. Told the Italian edition of the Vatican News that the role of the Augsburg Confession was an attempt to find common ground, a shared profession of faith among the countries we now identify with the Reformation. I mean, this is truly an amazing coming together. ⁓ The confession certainly, now this one is just, these next two statements are.

speaker-0: rewriting history.

speaker-2: Crazy. Certainly deserves consideration as a stellar ecumenical confession of faith. Francisco Lorenzo Morrone, the co-pastor of Rome's confessional Lutheran Church. Its intent and spirit were precisely to foster clarity and understanding between nascent evangelicals and the Catholic imitator. It is also rooted in the Reformation's justification in church history, so much that Melanchthon can close it by saying, in doctrine and ceremonies, We have received nothing contrary to scripture or the church universal. That's what the whole purpose of the Augsburg confession was to split from the church universal. mean, but history has shown us that confessions can become casualties and word battle, losing sight of the author's meaning. It just, I mean, this just came out in late February. ⁓ This shows that the Reformation at its origin conceived of itself as a movement for the renewal of all Christianity in the spirit of a gospel, convinced that it was a universal renewal of the church and not a reformation that had shattered the unity of the church. I mean, they are co-opting the entire Oaksburg Confession and making it their own. Yeah. Koch and Pace's endorsement of the Protestant Reformation central text echoes the relentless thrust of Leo XIV toward Christian unity since his election last May. In his apostolic letter, Unite Fidei, marking the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, Leo urged Catholics to, quote, leave behind theological controversies that have lost their reason for existence and unite with the Protestants and the Eastern Orthodox in one faith and one love. Has anybody seen that? I mean, I just saw that the other day. I was totally blown away. So I'm not gonna tire you out by reading all of this, but ⁓ now this was the last one in this section. This is quote from Jesuit scholar Brian Lobo. Luther was a prophetic Voice, professor of missiology, former dean of Rome's Pontifical Gregorian Seminary. Acknowledging the Reformation's contributions in recognizing the Augsburg Confession as a paradigm for Christian unity would further the cause of mission and a unified Christian witness to a broken world that needs to hear the gospel. I mean, they're just simply clasping hands across the gulf as fast as they can possibly stick their hands out to each other. Now, few thoughts. Remember Revelation 17.5? Upon her forehead was a name written mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth. This text declares that there is a mother of harlots and that infers harlot daughters. Who broke away from Babylon the Great in 1517 AD? Lutherans and eventually a host of other Protestant denominations. How do I know this is a very important biblical statement? Can we infer or determine who these daughters are? The answer is absolutely yes from Cardinal Ratzinger, Joseph Ratzinger, Benedict XVI, now deceased. Listen to what he said. Does the universal church consider itself the mother of all other churches? Here's a letter from Cardinal Joseph Rassiger from the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, which was the old Inquisition, on June 30th at 20. He enjoins the bishops to be careful in using the term sister churches. This was the ecumenical movement and, you're our sister church and we're sisters and oh, it's all coming. And he says, no, Quote, sister churches are Exclusively particular churches or groupings of particular churches for example the patriarchates of the Metropolitan provinces in other words the Orthodox and other Catholic style churches But it must always be clear when the expression sister church is used in the proper sense that the one holy Catholic and apostolic Universal Church is not sister but mother of all the particular churches now that's from Pope Benedict the 16th, so if you want to I am suggesting to you that the daughter churches are running back to the mother church as fast as they can possibly go. I mean it's just totally crazy what's going on. All right, let's jump to Iran just for a minute. If you're listening to the news, Iran is figuring prominently. This is Greg Laurie. How many have heard of him on YouTube? He's a very prominent evangelical speaker. Christianity is exploding in Iran. People are celebrating in the streets. House churches, underground believers everywhere praying for a spiritual awakening. And he reminds us, Iran figures in the Bible. Esther is a key figure. And Daniel figured in Persia was Cyrus. So he's starting to make a link here. Just keep hanging with me. Modern Iran plays a role in Bible prophecy. Did you take that when you were in Bible? and Daniel and Revelation. You just finished. Did you have Iran and Bible prophecy? Yes. Could be, Alright, this is Greg Laurie talking. The Bible says the large force to the north of Israel will march on her. Known as Magog and her allies will be Persia. He doesn't know how it will fit in yet, but we will see. I'm quoting Greg Laurie. When we see this kind of activity in this part of the world it reminds me of the words of Jesus When you see these things begin to happen look up because your redemption draweth nigh as far as I can see the next prophetic event will be the rapture of the church this isn't about Dispensationalist this idea is not controversial to him or his listeners So the first domino to fall will be the emergence of the Antichrist the tribulation period the Battle of Armageddon Then the second coming the millennial reign of Christ and heaven and earth will then become one. This is Dispensational theory at its finest where did dispensational theory or futurism come from? Jesuit theologian with the Council of Trent. argued against Alcazar who said no, Antiochus Epiphanes in 164 BC was the Antichrist. Most people do not believe that, that's fallen away and increasingly the futuristic theory that we've just proposed here is ⁓ coming together. And he's saying pray for this Iran campaign to come to a successful end, pray for our military. You see what's happening is for dispensational theology to be correct, England in 1900 tried to establish a country in Israel, the Israeli nation, but it wasn't ready yet. And so after the war, There are known to be Jesuits behind this. There are known to be the Masonics in higher orders. Israel was established in 1948. This has to be there for this dispensational theory to make any sense from a prophetic point of view. And so, He's praying that the Iranian people will accept Jesus, but yet we've got to take care of Iran. We cannot let this evil nation overwhelm Israel. ⁓ Here's what he says, large force north of Israel called Magog, we could spend a lot of time talking about Gog and Magog, that will march against Israel in the end time and one of the allies of Magog, who many believe is modern day Russia, will be marching along. You see how a literal battle of Armageddon is developing in the minds of dispensational theology. It's coming together, but he's going to be marching ⁓ towards this. Iran is Magog in the north who will march with its allies on Israel. Jesus says redemption, he's recoding himself. ⁓ I don't have time to go, how many have heard of David Jeremiah? Okay. If you go to his website, he's on YouTube right now, and he did an extended, much more careful reasoned discussion on this very subject that David Lorry did. And it's put together a lot better. mean, Please understand that the futuristic dispensational theories have been worked on for at least a hundred years or more in Sirius and a complete theological explanation, systematic theological explanation is slowly coming together which involves these on a literal basis, not a symbolic or otherwise as we see prophecy from the historicist's point of view but these are literal things that are going to take place and so they move Armageddon down to this kind of a battle when we clearly realize that Armageddon is in the sixth or seventh plague. I've got to quit I can't hardly stand. ⁓ go to Ezekiel 38 and 39, that's where they're getting this material on Iran being Magog and being part of the force that comes after Israel. And that's why Hagee and... What's the Arkansas governor that's the Huckabee who's the American ambassador to Israel? That's why they are pushing the daylights out of the Trump administration to get on Israel's side because Israel, to maintain dispensational theology, has got to stay there. They can't let Israel go away and get rid of it. anyway. I just want you to know that they have been studying this for a long time and they're making this theology and this prophecy sound plausible. And if you do not understand how historicist from the time of Paul to the time of the Reformation to the time of the 18th, 19th centuries, studied symbolic prophecy. A beast represented the kingdom, know, a horn represented a king, you know.

speaker-0: the idea of repeat and enlarge and profite-

speaker-2: Yeah, in other words, they are going with Ribera's theological underpinnings and enlarging and developing this entire theory theologically and people are going to be sucked in completely.

speaker-0: A lot of denominations believe this already.

speaker-2: When I was actively digging in the summers over in Israel, I was on the plane going over there and this man and we were talking and I said I was going to dig. my son is over there and he's been over in the kibbutz and he is fulfilling prophecy of where he is planting trees and olive groves and grape vineyards and in fulfillment of the prophecy to go help revive Israel. I didn't bother to try to explain to him what was going on. I just let him talk. I mean, you can't, they see a literal fulfillment and Satan has the ability to make that happen. I do believe. And that's why, and I ended, I, I'm not sure where that quote is here. I was going to talk about church and state, but I'm not going to do that to you tonight. ⁓ I'm looking for my last. Anyway... The scripture is a safeguard. Read that chapter in the great controversy. Unless you know your Bible. Not to force down somebody's throat, but it's internalized in your mind and your heart, where you can give a reason for the hope that is within you, just like you did with this calendar issue. Doesn't sound like much, but it's very important. I mean, for a erudite, knowledgeable person, This seems like an insurmountable problem to him. He's not worried about all ran and probably and all this. So we've got to know the scriptures. We got to know a reason for the hope that is within us. And I pray to God that that becomes your ambition as well. And the grace of God, if you have learned one thing from the lessons this quarter, We are saved solely by the grace of God who is willing to bestow it on any person who comes to the foot of the cross, who accepts his atonement, his death, the second death for your and my sins. And we rise to walk with him in newness of life. Going forth in the happy knowledge that we are in step with our Lord and Savior solely by His grace.

speaker-1: All right, we're gonna open up to a little Q and A. I know we covered a lot of territory. That's okay. We have microphones up.

speaker-0: of questions. While you guys are coming up with any questions, I thought it was interesting in your presentation there as well that in the dispensationist theology, it all centers around as well this idea between Israel and Iran, which is exactly where the occult talks about what's going to happen. I don't know if you remember that Albert Pike quote is the Israel and Iran are going to fight and the whole world is going to be behind it. Russia is going to join aside and America is going to join aside. Everyone is going to join aside. And the result of that war is going to be ⁓ as he called it mutual. destruction that's going to then lead into universal acceptance of one religion. At least that's their agenda. And I think you can see that it lines up very well with the dispensationless theology of there's going to be the Antichrist and then there's going to be a rapture and then a time of trouble and tribulation and then the second coming and a thousand years of peace.

speaker-2: So be on the watch.

speaker-1: All right, well, maybe we just stand for closing prayer. Julie.

speaker-0: Sure. Heavenly Father, ⁓ Lord we thank you so much just for giving us prophecy, giving us light in the darkness and I pray that you would help us to do as your word says and take heed to that light that we would be as... people with our lamps trimmed and burning, that we would not be as the foolish virgins, Lord, but that we would be watching and waiting for your soon coming, as we can tell. If we learned anything tonight, it's that things are rapidly wrapping up and that we should be ready, Lord, to defend our faith, to know what we believe, to have your word hidden in our heart that we might not sin against you. And I pray this for each one of us, Lord, as we head home, keep us safe and give us a deeper desire to be ready for your soon coming, to be aware of what's going on Lord and ultimately

speaker-2: Yeah.

speaker-0: Thank you guys for your time. Hope you have a blessed week.

speaker-2: work.

speaker-0: I'm out.

speaker-2: It's going to...