Myron Fletcher: Welcome back to Rocket with the Fletchers, where faith lifts us, love grounds us, and rockets launch us.

Tiera Fletcher: Today we're talking about something almost everyone wrestles with, balancing work and family.

Myron Fletcher: For us, that often looks like the lab versus the living room. But before we dive into this podcast, we want to demystify what we believe at Rocket with the Fletchers. We honestly don't believe that work-life balance exists. We believe in work-life integration. And in this episode, we're going to attack that, dive deep into it, and give you a better understanding of why we don't believe work-life balance exists.

Tiera Fletcher: Have you ever felt like you're being pulled in two important directions at once? When we first started our careers, we thought that success meant saying yes to every opportunity. When you're hungry, when you're ready to conquer the world, when you're ready to become an aerospace engineer, graduate college, we become engineers, automatically we're ready to start looking at ways to get towards leadership, ready for the next goal and the next goal and the next goal. But when it comes to all of the different things that come along with life, that same drive in terms of all the opportunities and saying yes to them, it starts to look different.

Myron Fletcher: Yeah, mean, you know, eventually we realized that saying yes to everything at work can sometimes mean saying no to things at home. And that's the thing that really woke us up, right? I mean, I remember early in my career, long work hours during critical program phases of Space Launch System. You know, ⁓ spent 15 hours at work, that means I was only at home for a very short amount of time, right? And so ⁓ trying to figure out that balance of How do I do the work thing during this critical program, but how do I take care of home at the same time? Another thing, ⁓ with tight deadlines. Anybody in the engineering arena can tell you, deadlines come and they go and they usually hit high, right? And so you have these tight deadlines, things have to be turned around. And so the balance, ⁓ to balance, hey, do I spend time with my family tonight or do I go work long hours tonight, right? Missing family moments. because of career demands, right? There are some people who are in certain roles that require them to travel. And during that travel time, they might miss certain events that might be taking place, right? And then, know, realizing success at work doesn't replace your presence at home. I think that's a key example in reference here is that, you know, a lot of people get it mixed up. Like, well, if I'm successful at work, my family's gonna be happy at home. And that may not be the case. I kind of want to dive a little deeper into those examples that I just brought up because that's why we really don't believe in work-life balance at Rocket with the Fledgers. We honestly believe in work-life integration. And it's simple. It's not a you pick and choose, you do X, Y, and Z. It's how do you integrate? How do you walk in alignment? And how do you sustain that in the relationship? And we're going to dive deep into this. But those are things that we think about as rockin' with the Fletcher's. The work-life balance means you're on a seesaw. constantly trying to balance that thing out. ⁓ gonna be times where you're gonna be required to work 12-hour days. You're gonna be required to work 10-hour days. The balance won't be there on those days. Therefore, if you're shooting and you're aiming for work-life balance, you probably won't hit the mark. But if you aim for what we call work-life integration, which is, I'm going to have to work 12 hours. But at the same time, I have commitments at home. So maybe I go to work a little earlier so that me and the spouse work out, me and Tierra work out, hey, you pick the kids up, you drop the kids off. And we strategically navigate the day so that we're there for all the critical moments. And at night, hey, let's say we put the boys down at 7 PM. And then at 7.30, you're spending time. 30 minutes, 40 minutes with the wife, just me and you time. But then at nine o'clock, I'm gonna spend two, three more hours at work because I need to get those things done. But what I did there was I integrated work into my life instead of exclude my wife out of my life, if that makes sense. And so there has to be strategies that you put in play. It might require you not to get the full 100 hours of sleep that you desire, your beauty sleep and your beauty rest. But these are the things that while we don't believe work-life balance really exists. And so... know, Tiara, just a question to ask you, when did we first realize balance wasn't sustainable the way we were trying to do it?

Tiera Fletcher: Oh, I would say that I will pin it to when we first got married. So even before kids, I reached a point where I had just started as a structural analysis engineer full time. And I was trying to be the best structural analysis engineer that I could be. So I would go to work, do night hours, go home. And I would be like, you know what? I want to get ahead. I want to research. I want to do all these different things so that I could just execute more quickly. So that, you know, I would get home and eat and then would pull out my laptop. I'll just be zoning in and just try to get things done as soon as I can. And you get a wake up call. You were like, work is going to be here tomorrow. gave me that just a wake up call. But I also realized that even while I was doing that, while I thought that I was getting ahead, I was actually suffering from even a self-care perspective. started to get headaches. I started to reach a point where I wasn't doing ⁓ activities or hobbies that I would like to do. Like, I like to dance. I didn't have time to do that anymore. I didn't have any other extracurriculars that I was doing. I would literally come home and And then I would glance at you, but we didn't really have that quality time because I was trying to pour so much, too much into work at that point. And I was only a junior engineer. By looking back at it, I can only imagine if I tried to take the same approach that I did then to the work world that I have now. Oh my gosh. It would just be a completely different scenario. But that's when I realized that Having such a reliance on work and not having enough weight for the family. It's just not sustainable. It wasn't sustainable for myself as a human being, as a person. It wasn't sustainable for our relationship, for our marriage. And ultimately, I didn't get any further ahead at work because I was in such a place of trying to just run on a hamster wheel. But I wasn't progressing towards the finish line because there were other assets of my life were not being upheld to the extent that it needed to. So that was the first moment for me where I realized that ⁓ too heavy into work is just not sustainable. And so I would say, you you brought it up in terms of work-life integration. That's where I had to find my way of integrating. work and life. So lunch dates, we would have lunch dates. Thankfully, we work for the same company. that was pretty easy for us to do. But closing that laptop just about bringing it home some days to try and find some more time for the life side of things.

Myron Fletcher: Well, you you hit a lot of good points there. I remember, you know, as an individual contributor, where I would work, you know, eight to nine to 10 hours, but I would leave my laptop at my desk locked up and I would not bring it home. And I remember people would say like, Myron, what are you doing? We got this X, and Z to do tomorrow. And I was like, if I didn't finish it today, I would get to it tomorrow. Otherwise, and this is before we had kids, as you mentioned. Otherwise, I'm going to sacrifice a lot of time my wife that I'll never get back. one of my wife's love languages is quality time. And quality time means she wants all of my attention, 100 % all on her. And I respect that. And I'm going to give her that. And I refuse to say I do to you and not be able to satisfy the essential things that make you tick and make you move in a direction that's going to make you happy, right? And so do I sacrifice that or do I sacrifice work? I'm sacrificing work. And that's just point blank period. And a sacrifice really wasn't sacrifice. I just have to learn how to be more efficient at work. Because one thing that we've learned is that perfect balance rarely exists. And so I have to give you context into my past because understanding my past, here, you're watching our podcast, you're watching these episodes. You're like, you guys are so busy. How do you have time to do anything? But let's reverse back. So at Tuskegee University in my undergrad, I had the ability to do quite a few things at the same time. So let's start off. So a lot of people don't know this. actually triple majored. I have one more math class to take. And I'll never take that math class because I don't want that math degree. And I don't need the math degree. But I got one more. I take one more math class. I have three bachelor degrees, which is mind-boggling. But due to that, so my average credit load a semester was 26 to 27 credits a semester. Now in relation, the average student to be considered full time at Tuskegee at the time, was 12 credit hours. The average engineering student took between 15 to anywhere to 19 depending on, you know, their specific load and specific year. So my average throughout my collegiate career at Tuskegee was 26 to 27 credits. With that being said, I also was a tutor at what was called the T-Cal. So I taught students and I wasn't tutoring, it was teaching. I was teaching physics, algebra one, algebra two, calculus one, two, three, and differential equations. I actually taught that to students in T-Cal. And for those of you who are watching the podcast, you can remember, give me a thumbs up if you're one of the students that I taught math to while I was at the Skeeky. I also was a waiter. ⁓ at the local hotel on campus. And so on usually it was major occasions, but that was practically every day at Tuskegee. had companies coming in. I was a ⁓ server that I would go in for the big events and, you know, dressing all black and, you know, get my little suit on, X, Y, Z and go clean and go serve tables. I would do that maybe four to five hours a day at night. This is all at night because most of these events are at night. Then I also worked for NASA I was at Tuskegee, right? And so, ⁓ and on top of that, I was a researcher for ⁓ a department and a researcher for the aerospace engineering department. ⁓ So any given time during my tenure at Tuskegee, I was working five to six jobs plus the 26 ⁓ credit hours ⁓ for triple major. I graduated with two aerospace engineering and physics, not the mathematics. I was doing all of that at the same time. And that was my norm. And so when I graduated college, everybody was like, Mara, you're doing too much. And I was like, I'm not doing enough. I was like, all I have to do is work 40 hours a week. Do you know how much time I have on my hands? ⁓ so because of my collegiate career, I had to really learn how to time manage. And maybe we'll do an episode on time management, Tierra. I think it might be key. If you want us to do an episode on time management, drop a comment below. Let us know, go do an episode specifically on time management. But long story short, I had to figure out time management. I recognized early that balance did exist there is no balance when you have that chaotic of a schedule. I had labs that would last two, three hours. Once I got out of a lab, I would go straight into work to go do X, Y, and Z. So it's one of those things where, if understand me now and people see me now, they're like, ⁓ my heart is always doing X, and Z. that's just, in my DNA. ⁓ I've been doing this for the last 15, 20 years. Like this is what I do. Hustling is in my DNA. But I wanted to give that backstory so that you understand where I'm coming from when we talk about integration. Because if I did integrate all those things in my collegiate career, I probably would have failed at one or two of them. But because I've learned how to integrate and I learned how to balance, that was the key. And so like I said, one thing we've learned is that perfect balance really exists. Tierra, can you talk about some alignment instead of balance?

Tiera Fletcher: Yeah, instead we do try to focus on alignment. And you you brought up college. thing that we do today that I remember doing in college, it was aligning priorities with values. I that a staff member at MIT, and you know, once I already say that phrase, she already knows that I'm talking about her. She would have me in her office, I would go in there probably, well, probably every day. But my freshman year I reached a point where I was literally curled up in her chair and I was just crying because I was like, I don't know how to balance all the things that I want to do. I signed up for probably about 10 clubs. I a full course load. I was away from family, from anyone that I had known, just meeting new people. ⁓ I wanted to do so many different things in order to advance my journey towards becoming an aerospace engineer. There were just so many different things that I had on my plate, had on my schedule, but was no structure around it. Of course, I would have different time blocks for it, but you do truly have only so much time. So for me, ⁓ I had align priorities with values. She told me to make a list. of all of the different things that are important to me. in terms of ⁓ club that I had just joined a week ago versus ⁓ that lab that I really need to participate in so that I can get more experience in aerospace ⁓ or that club that just brings me so much joy and fitness for wellness. I had to be able to sit down and prioritize all those different activities that I had signed up for, literally numbering them one through, not all the way to 20, but only just keeping those top ones because they're aligned with my values. They're aligned with the things that were most important to me. Fast forward to today, what I'm thinking about, the ways that we spend our time, we talked about businesses, we've talked about children, we've talked about each other. We've talked about faith, all of these different components, they require time and they rely with our values. So we have to prioritize them into our schedule period. If we don't, then there's a missing component for the way that we do life. And an automatic imbalance. Another thing that shows accepting that ⁓ different they do require different focus. So that college student that was trying to figure out how to get to the degree, how to get to the aerospace engineering degree, not the same person who is now trying to get to the doctorate degree. And, in terms of leadership principles and being able to apply them inside and of work. not the same in terms of those different seasons. So the prioritization is not the same. The focus is not the same. Also, the season where I was carrying children, right? ⁓ Carrying first born. I did not have the same focus as I do today. I was focused again on nourishing that child, nourishing my body, ensuring that the environment was well and ready in order to start our family. It was different season. it requires a different focus. That's the fun thing about life, but being able to evolve into what that season is requiring in that moment. a requirement to be able to live out the values and priorities that are necessary for you to truly live ⁓ joy, to live with purpose. ⁓ then also being intentional with the time that you have. Right, talked about prioritization, we talked about different seasons and their requirements. being intentional about that minute that you're spending scrolling through Facebook, intentional about those few hours that you have in order to dedicate to a hobby ⁓ or business or an activity that's really important to you versus just watching the clock tick until those few hours are away. Being intentional about the time that you have is really acknowledging the fact that time is finite. It is not infinite by any means. Tomorrow is not promised for any of us. being intentional about those different minutes that we are blessed with. That's just another one of the points in terms of what does it look like to have alignment ⁓ the way that you do life. And we talked about family time. We talked about setting boundaries, especially with each other, ⁓ being a couple. But setting those boundaries around those special games, those special baseball games, football games, homework time. I think that a season that is really relevant right now for both of us, we're doing our doctorates. We're doing a lot of interviews as part of our qualitative analysis. Interviews require time. We each had to do double digits of interviews. and each of them can last about an hour. What does that look like in terms of scheduling those interviews dealing with our schedule? For me, it is crossing the line and saying, hey, you know what? There is a dedicated time that we have for dinner, that we have for practices for baseball and games, as well as homework time. I cannot schedule anything before 7.30 PM Central Time. because that is the time where our family, we are a unit. And those few hours that you have afterward before the boys have to go to sleep, before we have to go to sleep, they're precious. So setting boundaries around that family time to still be able to get the other stuff that I have to get done, being able to honor that family time. And then also being present within that time that I'm honoring. That an important piece. ⁓ that time do I slip up sometimes? Yes, I do ⁓ ⁓ you literally pop my list if I have my work photo I'm trying to just get to those last few emails But mentally being present at home instead of mentally staying at work You'll be surprised how kids catch up to that and you can be on your phone trying to answer these last emails They can be telling you about their whole life story But you're so zoned in into that email. Yes, I'm talking based on experience. You're so zoned in into that email that you're just missing that moment. You're just not mentally there. You're physically present, but your mind is in a completely different place. So being present is something that I continually work on each and every day because nobody is perfect. And that is definitely one of my growth areas. But being present, even in those moments where you start to wander off. Just pull back, just pull back into that present time. And then the same way that those meetings or interviews that we're scheduling, scheduling important family moments. One thing that we love to do is travel. We to travel. So when the boys have spring break, ⁓ when both have a day off, we just whether it's a date night or whether it's our family vacation. I'm spending time in ways that allows us to be together. I brought up a lot of different examples, Byron, but what comes to mind when you think about alignment?

Myron Fletcher: You know, you brought up a lot of good examples. You know, one of the biggest things that I think for married couples who are both actively working is you kind of hit it right. Being present when you're home instead of mentally staying at work. That has been something that I see a lot of couples struggle with where you have, you know, it's like, hey, we're looking to do you know, we're looking to figure out how do we balance this thing out. And the real thing is, you you have to be careful when you're so busy at work that when you come home, you're still talking about work or you're still physically to work to where you can't really enjoy the moments at home. And so our encouragement to you today is, know, when you come home, be present. And like I say, there are times when you have to do X-Files, you have to answer that email.

Tiera Fletcher: Okay.

Myron Fletcher: or that thing popped up in your head, you want to go do X, Y, and Z, go do it. But you have to make sure you're not mentally staying at work too long so that you could enjoy home. And that's the beautiful part about our home. Like I say, we have offices in our homes now, so that's a little different. She has her office, I have my office. But before that was the case, I would physically leave the laptop at home, I mean at work. And that I would drop off everything that I was thinking about. I would just drop it and say, look, I want to take notes and write down tomorrow. Do this tomorrow. Do this. I have a little checkbox every day. Tomorrow. Do this. Do this. And when I would go into work, I would just do it. And so when I came home, I physically left it. Now here with the integration part, right? There might be times where, you know, I didn't get a certain thing done at the time where they get in. I might log in at 10, 10 PM to go knock out a few things before I close my eyes and go to bed. But I'm integrated. I'm not balanced. I'm integrating. work life make it meet demands, right? I'm always gonna prioritize and do what I need to do, ⁓ at the same time, I'm gonna make sure that we have alignment. And so you hit on a lot of good examples, ⁓ the biggest one that I kind of want to piggyback on was being present when you're home instead of mentally staying at work. That one will save your marriage. That one will buffer up the marriage. That one, especially if you have a wife like who ⁓ equality one of her love languages. ⁓ If you don't have a wife that doesn't have quality time, maybe there's a little strategy that you know that I don't know. But long story short, you want to make sure you're present when you're home instead of mentally staying at work, So one of the biggest things here is, you know, just we want to reiterate being present when you're home instead of mentally staying at work. T.R., can you bring us into our first faith tie in for today?

Tiera Fletcher: Yes, the scripture that comes up for me is Matthew chapter 6 verse 33. Seek the kingdom of God above all else and live righteously and he will give you everything you need. Now talk about priorities. That's it right there. Seek first the kingdom and everything else falls into place. talked about prioritizing family. But really, faith, it helps to clarify the priorities. It leads you into understanding what it means to prioritize your spouse, to prioritize your children, to prioritize the things really anchor you into what God has in store for your life. But ultimately, ⁓ it means to take time to pray while you're trying to prioritize your schedule, taking to not have too many things of this world, but spiritually time dedicated to your faith. And another topic that comes up for me, Myron, is also just thinking about culture, right? Every family a culture, whether they intentionally it or not. I would say that for us, when I think about just traditions and culture. think about, you know, going down to Arkansas for Thanksgiving. think about going to Georgia for But aside from more of the traditions, just culturally, the way that we operate as a family unit, the way that come together when times are tough or when times are more celebratory. All those different aspects of how we function as a family unit is what I think about when I think about culture. I think about praying before we eat. I think about lifting each other up, not saying negative things to each other, but only speaking words that bring life into each other. think about helping each other in terms of those scheduling conflicts. When not available to do something, I swoop in and vice versa. I think about the partnership and the overall team that we are. So what do you think about when you think about culture from our family perspective?

Myron Fletcher: You know, protecting that culture requires decisions. You you hit on a lot of examples already you culture and how it relates to trying to protect it. But there are simple things for me as a child that I remember to this day, and one of them was family dinners. I remember every day, I don't know time it was as a kid, I can't quite remember what X, Y, Z was, but I remember we had these little yellow plates. And we had the civil war. And I know it was dad and mom said, go set the table. And I would go set the table. I was responsible for putting the place down, putting the napkin down, putting the fork on top of the napkin. And then my brother would go do the drinks. And so we had these responsibilities and these roles. But those dinners, man, we would sit there and we would talk about our day. We would talk about how everything was going. If we had any issues that I came up at work. And to me, when I talked to you guys earlier about what I want my kids to legacy wise, it's for those memories, those experiences. ⁓ to this day, that's what we do. I'll have, Makai loves setting up the table, my three year old, he will set up a table like nobody's business. ⁓ you give him a plate, he's gonna put the plates down, he's gonna put the forks down. Myron likes to do drinks. So I give him, hey, you go get the cups and you go get it. And Michael likes to put the ice in the cups and Myron likes to fill up the drinks. But we have this thing where our culture, ⁓ the Fletcher's family, this culture has been built around family dinner. So that's something that we talk about the integration. We integrate that into our busy schedules because it's that important to us. ⁓ then there's the routines, right? ⁓ There's the morning routine when I sing a song, I sing a song to my boys every single morning. I won't sing it to you guys. I don't want to make you guys wake up. But it wakes my boys up and it makes them encouraged and they're all giggly. Every single morning I sing the same song. And it's so good at the very end, the very last verse of the song, they have to sing something back to me. And when they sing that thing back to me, they get tickled. It's called a tickle bug. A tickle bug gets them. And we do it every single morning. And even when I'm not present, I'll sing that song on Facebook or FaceTime, and I'll pre-record it and sing it to them. And I know for sure at the end of that song, they say exactly what I want them to say back. And mommy gives them a little tickle from that. But those are things, right? Those are some of the examples where culture, it requires making decisions where we that nighttime routine. We dedicate that morning time routine. We dedicate our family dinners. And there's the thing of You know, being intentional about the conversations we have with our children. I think a lot of parents kind of overlook like you have to be intentional. Like you should be training and building your children on a day to day basis. So be very intentional about the conversations you're having and when you're having those conversations draw out things from your children. Learn. There's a thing called Chat GPT. There's these AAS. There's Google Gemini. There's all these softwares out there where you can go learn. ⁓ How do I get my kid to tell me more than they just had a good day? Like there are strategies on how to ask your child how their day was and how you can pull and tug to get them to speak to you like you've never had to speak to you before. But that's one of those things. We talk about the culture in the Fletcher family. That's a culture that we have established, you've created. We've created this atmosphere where you can bring mommy and daddy any and everything and there will be no response. Like I mean, when I say any and everything, I mean, any and everything. And in that, we create that environment, that culture to where they can come in. Another thing that Tiara and I do our best at is teaching values through everyday moments. I think it's key that our children are taught at every single instance they can get the values through just single things, right? was one day me and Myron were outside. This guy dropped the $5 bill. And Myron said, hey, daddy dropped the $5 bill. I got a $5 bill. I said, no son, that's not our $5 bill. That's his $5 bill. But he said, I found it dad. So that means it's mine, right? I said, no. And he said, well, dad, that's what you're saying, I'm going to go give this to him, right? And so now he has the key concepts to understand that finders keepers isn't always the best thing to have because that was not our $5 bill. That man did not intentionally to drop it. And Myron actually went up to him and said, hey, you dropped your $5 bill, sir. And the guy looked at my room and was like, this little kid is trying to give me a $5 bill. He said, because of your honesty, you can keep that $5 bill, son. And he looked at me, his eyes lit up. And he was like, dad, it's my $5 bill. And I was like, yes, it is, son. And he went to go buy a little toy with it. But that was a thing where he under, that's in every single situation we have. I can go through 1,001 examples of how we're teaching values just through everyday moments. And so we just want to encourage you guys as your children, teach them values through every single moment that you get with them. And then the biggest thing for me, like I say, I am with the woman who has quality time as her number one love language. So protecting time for marriage, even when life is busy, is critical to me. is busy all the time, every day, 24-7. There isn't a day in a Fletcher household where it's not a busy day. never, ⁓ we've been married, there hasn't been a none busy day. So there's always a busy day, but protecting that time, making room for that time for our marriage, even when life is busy as key. We went on three date nights last week, a Friday, it was a Thursday, a Friday and a Saturday, three date nights, okay? And so we, know, protecting that time in our marriage is critical for us. And so, know, what do we want our home to feel like is something that always comes to mind when I think about our culture. When I think about the Fletcher family, it's like, when my children come home, what do I want it to feel like to them? What do want them to remember? And that's something we want to encourage you guys to begin to think, what do you want your home to feel like? Not only for your children, but for your neighbors. for your friends that come over, for your colleagues, whoever it is that comes to your house, what do you want your home to feel like? Because work success should not come at the cost of family connection. And that is the key that we want to bring up here. And then with that, Tiara, kind of lead us into a practical takeaway our guests and audience can have moving forward.

Tiera Fletcher: So. Absolutely. So practical takeaways for today. here are three things that help us manage the tension between work and home. Number one, prioritize presence over So being fully engaged when you're with family. And what that looks like is disconnecting from that work phone, that laptop, the work mindset. disconnecting from what really unplugging and being present with your family. You know, I brought up the whole ordeal of when I was starting off as engineer and how I just wanted that to be my version of perfection. But the issue with perfection is that one, it's not possible. And two, as you trying to be so perfect, you could be suffering in a very important area such as your family. Right? So your life outside of work. Number two, expectations. So talk through those busy seasons ⁓ they happen. If it looks like a work trip that's coming up where I'm going to be away for a week, me and Mara, we're going to have a conversation and we're going to talk about, you know, is he able to handle the overall low while I'm away during that time period before I sign up for those dates? We're also going to talk about different events that we need to attend to see if they can still be supported. We're going to talk about the children. We're going to talk about all the different engagements, activities, events that they have, and if they can still attend it. And if not, how can the dates be shifted so that they can still be supported? We're to talk about all of those different things to make it work together as a family unit ⁓ without the health of our family. communicate expectations as going through those busy seasons, ⁓ whether yourself, your spouse, or a family member, whomever, but just talking through it ⁓ as busy season takes place before it happens. Number three, protect the moments. So those family traditions, friend traditions, celebrations, milestones, those moments that are truly memorable, your core memory is what we call it, right? moments that contribute to your core memory and what ⁓ you that joy, what brings you that life, right? Just really key events of your life, protect those moments. We had the opportunity to witness Myron's brother renewing their vows after 15 years of marriage. That's a core memory for us. We were able to celebrate them celebrate with our family protecting those moments and then also our little ones they have an award ceremony coming up And even though they are five years old seven years old Being able be present for them Being there for important moment. ⁓ Is it in middle of the day of a workday? Yes, it is But taking time away from work in order to experience that moment that we can't get back again. So the challenge is truly to identify one that protects family time this week. That is the listener challenge for today. Identify one boundary that protects family time this week. So again, ⁓ one, prioritize over perfection. Two, ⁓ communicate expectations, and three, protect the important moments. And Myron, can you bring us into our faith anchor?

Myron Fletcher: Awesome. Absolutely, absolutely. Good word there, Tiara. A scripture that grounds us in this conversation today is Ecclesiastes 3.1. And it says, everything, there is a season, a time for every activity under heaven.

Tiera Fletcher: That's really good, that's really it. And we talked about this, right? Different seasons require different focus and that's okay. Have grace for yourself in busy seasons and also have grace for yourself in more calm seasons as well. If this episode encouraged you, follow, subscribe, like, drop a comment, we wanna hear about it.

Myron Fletcher: And share it with someone navigating work and family responsibilities trying to do this balance thing. Let them be encouraged today that there is such thing called balance integration and we highly recommend it. Next episode, we're gonna be talking about the faith to innovate, why creativity and faith actually go hand in hand. know, success means little if you have no one to share it with. So make sure you're staying tuned, you're staying locked in. And before we close, T.R., can you close us in prayer?

Tiera Fletcher: Yes, absolutely. God, thank you so much for allowing us to come together and talk about alignment. Alignments to ensure that faith is coming first. All of the priorities that you have in store for us are coming after. We thank you for the opportunity to integrate work in life and to find a space where we can do both and be successful in both realms. We thank you, we love you, we trust you. Amen.

Myron Fletcher: Amen. You want to close this?

Tiera Fletcher: Bracket with the Fletcher's. Until next time.

Myron Fletcher: Until next time, rock it with the Fletchers.