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Chanel: it.

Bren/Seth: That's a really good question because we have a friend who believes something differently than you might believe. Do you think that Brennan and I have ever messed around? no. I don't know. No. I don't know.

Chanel: Okay. Do you think that Brennan and I have ever messed around? no. I don't know. Do do y'all want So I don't know. I don't know. Welcome, cheese, guys, and nannies, to When Opposites Attach, the podcast that feels like hanging out. I'm your host, Seth. And I'm Bryn. And with us today we have one of my lifelong friends, Chanel. Hi! How are you?

Bren/Seth: Welcome, cheese, gays and nays, to When Opposites Attach, the podcast that feels like hanging out. I'm your host, Seth. And I'm Bryn. And with us today we have one of my lifelong friends, Chanel. Hi. How are you?

Chanel: I'm great. Happy to be here.

Bren/Seth: Good. Tell us a little bit about you.

Chanel: so I'm a supermodel. I don't know if you ever knew that.

Bren/Seth: I don't know if you were gonna have

Chanel: so I'm really not. I'm a mom of three kids. That's great.

Bren/Seth: That's great.

Chanel: And they're all girls, so but I'm here and I'm living. So that's about it.

Bren/Seth: your girls absolutely love me. Actually Millie was the first one that fell in love with me. And then this one comes around, Seth, and now I'm just like garbage. Steph, yes. Yes. I don't know why,

Chanel: Right. And then this one comes around and just like garbage. It's actually Steph. So

Bren/Seth: but that just warms my heart because I hear Steph.

Chanel: And I was here

Bren/Seth: It it'll be silent in the house or I will hear the door open while while we're in the pool and I hear Steph. I'm like, someone wants some grapes Someone Someone wants to ride the tractor. I don't know. Yes. I fully expect your oldest who is four fifteen, fourteen, she's gonna start calling me Steph too. She'd be like I thought you were gonna say like I expect her to move in with me because she is like obsessed with your house and you and I'm gonna have

Chanel: It's some that's Someone was to ride the tractor, I know. Fourteen. She's gonna start me Steph too if she may like. Yeah, it's a thing. Like I expect her to move in with me. Obsessed with your house.

Bren/Seth: to I you know, I have godsons and I hope they hear this. I probably promised to get them cars when they were sixteen Cameron and Wyatt, I know you're out there. Anyway, they just graduated high school and just haven't spoken to me since they were like fifteen or sixteen, like off and on. It's not like they're not talking to me, but I was like, Well now I have to find someone to buy a car for. So Eliya better kiss She's like, just give her one of yours when you pay it off. actually on Elias 16th birthday,

Chanel: Anyway, they just graduated high school and just haven't spoken to me since they were like fifteen or sixteen. Like it's not like they're not talking to me. But I was like, Well now I have to find someone to buy a car for sign her up. That's fine, yeah. actually on Elias sixteenth birthday.

Bren/Seth: I'm gonna give Millie a car. Millie and Miley. Gosh, trusting them behind the

Chanel: No. Number one Steph. I could never. I I n I mean no. Especially

Bren/Seth: When it when they are sixteen they are gonna raise hell.

Chanel: Miley. The youngest is like, I don't know. I couldn't do it. Yeah. Just I'm just having to close my eyes.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. Just close my eyes. I love her I love her. and I'm I'm trying to explain her. Like the most sasiest, straight faced, like look at her long enough and she's gonna flip you off. Because she's tired of you looking at her. Like it is wild

Chanel: Sassiest, straight faced, like look at her long enough and she's gonna flip you off. Yeah, she's a sass hole. Because she's tired of you looking at her.

Bren/Seth: to me how I don't think you need to communicate with me anymore. And then you get the burden.

Chanel: Yeah, that's how it is. And then you get the birds. You know, it took about a year legitimately, I think it 'cause we met last April.

Bren/Seth: You know, it took about a year legitimately, I think 'cause we met last April and then it was a few months after that where I started hanging out at the house where the girls were around.

Chanel: And then it wasn't till maybe this April like legit. Yeah. where

Bren/Seth: And then it wasn't till maybe this April like legit, where Miley and Millie would come up and be like, Sup, bitches and I'm like Yeah, yeah, and it's actually where they started using your name, Steph and Well using a version of my name again. Before that it was who's that gay man? Yeah. If y'all don't stop inviting these fat queers around here

Chanel: get comfortable. Yeah, and it's actually where they started using your name staff. Yep. Using a version of my name. Before that it was who's that gay man? Never stopping doing these back clears

Bren/Seth: Legitimate. I can hear Millie saying that. I know because did they

Chanel: or No, they love it. I know because was it did

Bren/Seth: ask you if who Jay was or and you said that his husband or Yeah, me no

Chanel: Yeah, they asked me, they're like, Well who's that that guy, Hood's boyfriend? I No, that's his husband. They're married. She's like, boys

Bren/Seth: Yeah.

Chanel: can marry a boy and I was like, Of course, yes. More boys should marry boys, you know?

Bren/Seth: Of course they can. Look. I went on a camping trip years ago. And the camper next to us had like five kids and they were dealing with like a water leak issue. And I can tell they were overwhelmed. So I said, I the very first time I spoke to them, I like, I'm gonna babysit your kids while you figure this out and they were like, Thank you, please take them. I mind you, strangers, I don't even think they knew my name. So Jake over to help them. I take I think four of them were like old enough 'cause they had a baby. So four of them were old enough to like walk on their own.

Chanel: The camper next to us had like five kids and they were dealing with like a water leak issue. And I could tell they were overwhelmed. So I said I the very first time I spoke to them, I like, I'm gonna babysit your kids while you figure this out. And they were like, Thank you, please. I mind you, strangers, I don't even think they knew my name. Jake, I'm gonna help them. I take I think four of them were like old enough 'cause they had a baby. So four of them were old enough to like walk on their own. Anyway, while we're out, I was they were like, Who's that guy you're camping with?

Bren/Seth: Anyway, while we're out, I was they were like, Who's that guy you're camping with? And I was like, That's my husband and they were like, No. The the the boy, he was probably eight or nine, he was like, No. No no thank you, but no. And I like, No, it's okay, boys can marry boys and he

Chanel: That's my husband and they were like No. He was like no. And I like, No, it's okay, boys can marry boys and he was

Bren/Seth: like, Are you sure? And I said, I'm gonna let your dad explain this. So we got back to the campsite and his dad, Robbie, if you can hear this. we got back to the campsite and I was like, Hey Robbie, just so you know this came up and he was like, yeah, I'll explain it, no big deal. But it was so cute. He was like, Is that a thing? Can that happen? Yeah. Yeah. No. I unfortunately did marry that one, but it's not because no I'm just kidding.

Chanel: But it was so cute. He was like, Is that a thing? Can that happen? Like, absolutely not. I unfortunately did marry that one, but it's not like a numbers.

Bren/Seth: I know, that's like the whole Evelyn thing when we were out eating lunch. She asked, she said something about heels, and I was like, I'm gonna wear my heels when I get home. And she was like, Boys can't wear heels. And I was like, Yeah, I have heels. And so when we got here,

Chanel: Bet I can walk better in than you. When we got here,

Bren/Seth: I had put them on and the look on her face wild to me. She was so amazed. And she's

Chanel: And I was so amazed.

Bren/Seth: like, Why do where do you wear those two? And was like, To work, you know, on the corner, and Becca's like, Shut up. Do not Not you having to teach her with the corner of. Yeah. Not even the fact that a guy

Chanel: Not even the fact that a guy is wearing heels, it's just a teacher that back up on the corner. That's the best part. That's the most important. How do you think I may grind?

Bren/Seth: How do you think I make rent? How do you think I make rent? that is too funny. I I'm going I just keep thinking about the girls sticking their head out the door and going, Hey Steph, and I'm like, someone needs a snack. I don't know. Always. I'm waiting for you to go back to school because I never I can't afford this.

Chanel: Someone needs a snack. Always. They're always hungry and that's a like why? I'm ready for you to go back to school because I never have food anymore. It's not okay. I'm not okay.

Bren/Seth: You know, Jay said after you guys came over a couple of weekends ago, he like, Next time we're getting two cookie cakes and I said, Why? He said, I just don't know if I could eat after so many fingers being in a cake.

Chanel: Absolutely not. No, and that's the thing. They were like, it should be fine to let them cut their own piece. I'm like, you have no idea what they're gonna do to that cake. Yeah, maybe next time just get the same cookie cake, cut it in half, and one of the halves just cut small pieces. It literally looked like they just played pat a cake with it. Yeah. I put them in the mud. What's so funny is, okay, you guys all figure out over the course of the podcast that I don't care for my mom, but

Bren/Seth: Yeah, maybe next time just get the same cookie cake, cut it in half, and one of the halves just cut small pieces and put on a tray. Yeah. what's so funny is, okay, you guys will figure out over the course of this podcast that I don't care for my mom. But

Chanel: One thing that she did is we well, you were so surprised. No. one thing my mom was so good at is like

Bren/Seth: one thing that she did is we well, you're so surprised. one thing my mom was so good at is like

Chanel: we kind of as long as you were kind to each other had no rules. Okay. Like my brother's friends would come over and eat, drink

Bren/Seth: We kind of as long as you were kind to each other had no rules. So like my brothers' friends would come over and eat, drink,

Chanel: swim, run around the house, like you hit a bookshelf and knocked over a frame. I don't as long as you weren't beating each other up, my mom didn't care. It was like whatever, whatever. And then my Aunt Francis was the same way. So when the girls are at my house, I'm like, did I tell you that they broke something?

Bren/Seth: swim, run around the house, like you hit a bookshelf and knocked over a frame. I don't as long as you weren't beating each other up, my mom didn't care. It was like whatever, whatever. And then my aunt Francis was just the same way. So when the girls are at my house, I'm like, did I tell you that they broke something?

Chanel: no. It was super cute. It wasn't actually broken, but Miley, the tiniest one. Yeah. Miley walked up and said stuff. she told you something. Yes. It was so cute. She was like, this broke and I was like, okay, where's it from? I knew where it was from, but she told me.

Bren/Seth: It was super cute. It wasn't actually broken, but Miley, the tiniest one, right? Miley walked up and said, Steph and he hands me something. Yes. It was so cute. She was like, This broke and I was like, Okay, where's it from? I knew where it was from, but she told me.

Chanel: And she said, Is it supposed like, You're very sweet for asking. It sometimes. It's easy to fix. I'm surprised she told you. Sha she didn't just hide it, you

Bren/Seth: And she said, Is it supposed to happen? And I was like, You're very sweet for asking. It happens sometimes. It's easy to fix. And I like, my god What was it? No. She walked right up to me and like I think I think after the tractor incident they were like, No, we're gonna tell him we did hurt upset. He was so upset.

Chanel: know. She walked right up to me and like, I think I think after tractor incident. they were like, No. Yeah, because they felt so bad. They were like, We really did hurt Steph's feelings and I'm like I'm like, Yeah, you did. He was so upset. Like he was sad. He wasn't mad, but he was disappointed.

Bren/Seth: God, that is the worst. I hate when people And it's so it's so crazy

Chanel: that makes a kid just break down. yeah. Like maybe I'm not mad at you, I'm just disappointed. It's so crazy.

Bren/Seth: too because before the first time the kids had come out to your house,

Chanel: time the kids had come out to your house, Seth was like, What do I say? Do I you know, I just had all these questions and I was like at my house, they sit on the couch, they watch T V, they don't do anything there's this Yes role and Seth's like, Okay, well I'm not that extreme. Well no, I mean it's different, like the the environment is different.

Bren/Seth: Seth was like, What do I say? Do I you know, I just had all these questions and I was like, At my house, they sit on the couch, they watch TV, they don't do anything, they don't touch anything, they there's this, this, this, this rule. And Seth is like, Okay, well, I'm not that extreme. Well, no, I mean it's different. Like the the environment is different. I'm there are certain things that I'm sure if like it broke Jay would be upset, but like the reality is they're not picking shit up and throwing it. And that's what I'm like, as long as you're keeping

Chanel: There are certain things that I'm sure if like it broke Jay would be upset, but like the reality is they're not picking shit up and throwing it. Yeah, they're what I'm like as long as

Bren/Seth: that, live your best. And there They're comfortable at your house. But I'm like, to an extent that would be super fun because I want to break everything on here. I

Chanel: They're comfortable at your house. But I'm like, to an extent, don't be super fucking comfortable because we're not gonna break everything over here, okay?

Bren/Seth: well I mean and I also need to child proof a little bit 'cause we've got some of that cookware on the shelves right

Chanel: That's right.

Bren/Seth: next to my back door and I need to move that stuff around. Because we we've slammed the door and stuff have fallen off that shelf

Chanel: And see yeah. We've slammed the door and stuff had fallen off the and I tell Aaron all the time, I'm like, Seth is just like a big kid. That's why my kids love him so much. He's so easy to get along with my kids. And

Bren/Seth: Big kid. That's why my kids look so much. It's so alarming.

Chanel: if it you don't know, Aaron is my husband, by the way. This is a great segue. Because our first question for you is about your husband. I don't have a husband. I mean Aaron, yeah.

Bren/Seth: three of our husbands. Great segue. because our first question for you is about your husband. first question is what's it like being married to a gay man?

Chanel: what's it like being married to a gay man? Okay, so first of all, if he was more openly gay Well the problem is that he's closeted. Yeah, so if it was more open,

Bren/Seth: the problem is that he's closeted.

Chanel: I mean it's it's it's nice. Would you think that not a people, you know? Yeah, he's a lot of people who says, buddy. Yeah, I think all of ours, right? Yeah, all three of us. Mm-hmm. In this economy, I'm so open to polyamory.

Bren/Seth: No Yeah, he's a lot of people's husband. Yeah, I think all of ours. Yeah, yeah, all three of us. In this economy, I'm so open to polyamory because while I don't have to go to the gas station

Chanel: Well, I don't have to go to the gas station.

Bren/Seth: because I have an electric car, when I go buy groceries, bitch. Also, we should just start

Chanel: Yes.

Bren/Seth: a cult. You have the land for it. I'll just

Chanel: I'll just follow. Whatever you want me to do, I'll do it.

Bren/Seth: We need it we need a leader and then live off the land and then we all are just together. My heart is so happy. Then you have three kids. I do. Jay and I don't want kids, but every time kids are over, like my ovaries on fire. And then I look at the cookie cake that has fingerprints in it and I'm like, I should put those out. Yeah, I don't think I ever get that feeling. I see kids and I'm like, Yep, this is why. Yeah, yeah. This is why. I got my chickens taken this

Chanel: And I'll cook for everybody. And then I look at the cookie cake that has fingerprints in it and I'm like, Yeah, never mind. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, same. I don't know why I had three. I mean, I got my tubes taken out as soon as I could. You know how they say I choose to be gay? I choose

Bren/Seth: You know how they say people don't choose to be gay? I chose to be gay so I wouldn't have to have kids. No, this over here, choice. Women totally flying all over him, but he was like no men. No children. No, for real, Aaron isn't gay. I mean, we it if he came out like if he was gay, we would love him. I would still love him because I mean 'cause he would be pansexual, bisexual. He's just

Chanel: I knew you did. I knew it. This over here choice. Women totally flying all over. No kids, please. No. If you have ovaries, get off me. No, for real, Aaron isn't gay. I mean we if he came out. I mean if he was gay, we would love him. I would still love him. He'd still be my husband. Yeah. I mean 'cause he would be pansexual. Yeah. Exactly. Okay,

Bren/Seth: I am curious though,

Chanel: am curious though.

Bren/Seth: like if for really for both of you guys, and I'll start with Chanel.

Chanel: You're with Aaron, you've been with Aaron for fifteen, sixteen years. Yeah. Right? I mean what if he did come out? He hasn't. We don't expect that you would if he was like, Yeah, I'm a little bi. I would love that. I would absolutely love that for him. Yeah. I think it's hot. To be honest. Okay. You know, that's crazy.

Bren/Seth: You're with Aaron, you've been with Aaron for fifteen, sixteen years, right? I mean what if he did come out? He hasn't, we don't expect that he will. But what if he was like, Yeah, I'm a little bi. I would love that. I would absolutely love that for him. Yeah. I think it's hot. Okay. You know, that's crazy you say that because a lot of straight women really do watch

Chanel: Watch gay porn. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, it was coming out.

Bren/Seth: Yes. god I wasn't gonna say that, but That's hilarious. But I mean I mean I've heard it over and over again that women do that. And

Chanel: Yeah, very much so.

Bren/Seth: I mean if you think about it, straight men watch lesbians. Yeah. So I mean it's to me the same. right. Yeah. It would be the same. Yeah. Honestly. I I think that we are turning into an age of confidence. Or like

Chanel: Yeah, so Is it different though? I don't know. It's I don't know. I guess you're right. It's the same. It would be the same. Yeah. I'm assuming I I think that we're turning into an age of confidence. Exactly. People are just really attracted and like genuineness and if you're hot, you're hot. You can be a man, a woman, you can be trans, whatever. If you're a beautiful person, you're a beautiful person.

Bren/Seth: People are just really attracted and like genuineness and and a woman. You can be trans, whatever. If you're a beautiful person, you're a beautiful person. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I dig it. Okay, Bren, let's say that you're with someone for fifteen years. You love this guy, you've got a couple set of kids, you're living

Chanel: Love this guy. You've got a couple set of kids, you're living

Bren/Seth: in one of your dream homes and he comes out as bisexual. you know, I I don't think that would turn me off from him.

Chanel: No, I I don't think that would turn me off from him. The only thing it would do is I would you know me in my head trust issues second name, you know.

Bren/Seth: The only thing it would do is I would you know me, in my head. That's that's my second name, you know, in my head. and it would be like, Okay, so is he wanting to bring a woman in? Yeah. And then what if this woman is the new

Chanel: Yeah. And then what if this woman is the new

Bren/Seth: norm and this is what he wants, you know? What's gonna happen? because I I just I don't think I could I think I would be okay with it with him being bisexual. I just

Chanel: I think I would be okay with it with him being bisexual. I just would have these fears in the back of my mind that hopefully he would alleviate for me. But we'll s we hope he would, but we'll see. I wonder if you guys would explore a little bit of maybe patriarchy or misogyny here because like think about it. You would be cool with it, but like innately we're grown to believe that men are attracted to women. Right. So you're not worried about your marriage, right? Right. But

Bren/Seth: would have these fears in the back of my mind that hopefully he would alleviate for me, but we'll s we would yeah hope he would, but we'll see. I wonder if you guys would explore a little bit of maybe patriarchy or misogyny here because like think about it. You would be cool with it but like innately we are grown to believe that men are attracted to women. So you're not worried about your marriage. Right? But we're innately belie we believe innately

Chanel: We are in eight weeks.

Bren/Seth: that men are attracted to women, but you Married to a man, Bren.

Chanel: that is always gonna be in the back of your head. Yeah.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. Yeah. And you know, we've had multiple conversations. whenever I get in a relationship I'm so into monogamy. Don't want anything outside of that, which is fine. I mean in either way and I'm not knocking, you know,

Chanel: Anything outside of that, which is fine. I mean in either way and I'm not knocking, you know

Bren/Seth: anybody that is in an open relationship because that's that's you. That's your circus, your monkeys.

Chanel: Yeah, that's that's that's you. Enjoy it.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. I'm listening to a podcast, right? Sorry, go ahead. No. So I was just gonna say so what if since

Chanel: So I was just gonna say, so what if since your

Bren/Seth: your relationship, what is it, eight years now? You and Ten. Ten. well February will be ten. wow. That's insane. Yeah. so what what if Jay came out as bisexual?

Chanel: relationship, what is it, eight years now? You and ten. Jeez. February will be ten. congrats. That's gonna say. so what what if Jay came out as bisexual?

Bren/Seth: okay, so I'm gonna answer today and then give a little context. Like if this happened today and Jay was like, by the way, I'm by, I'd kinda be into it.

Chanel: okay, so I'm gonna answer today and then give a little context. Like if this happened today and Jay was like, by the way, I'm bi, I'd kinda be into it.

Bren/Seth: Okay. I'm a little here for it, but I am in a really unique position because Jay and I are like two entwined souls. And so like there's really not I mean, we've gone through some big things in our marriage and we have never been off. In almost ten years, we've never broken up, we've never been like, Let's take a break

Chanel: I am in a really unique position because Jay and I are like two entwined souls. And so like there's really not I mean we've gone through some big things in our marriage and we have never been off. In almost ten years, we've never broken up, we've never taken a break. So I feel really confident in like if you wanted to explore that. but Jay and I have zero interest in dating other people. So I you know, you don't

Bren/Seth: So I feel really confident in like if you wanted to explore that, but Jay and I have zero interest in dating other people. So I you know, you wanna

Chanel: try it. I mean and lately I have and I want this to be received with all of the love I have been into trans men. I d it's just of course

Bren/Seth: try it? I mean lately I have and I want this to be received with all of the love I have been into trans men. I d it's just

Chanel: I think it's without fetishizing it it's it's interesting to me to to explore that side of myself because I've I've never been with a woman. Surprise surprise we

Bren/Seth: I think it's without fetishizing it, it's it's interesting to me to to explore that side of myself because I've I've never been with a woman. Surprise, surprise. gasp. Yeah. So I would actually in this very moment of my life I would be very cool that rewind five years ago when we we've been married almost four years. rewind five years ago, it might weird me out a little bit. But it would have nothing to do with the f that what he likes, it would be my insecurities. It'd be me. You know.

Chanel: It'd be me. Huh. You know. I love it. That was kind of a cool question. Yeah, that was a good answer too. I think we all

Bren/Seth: I love it. That was kind of a cool question. Mm. I think we all had really beautiful answers because we're coming from very, very different points of view. And it's so crazy you're like you said in all the nine and a half, ten years that you and Jay have been together there was never an off period. And this one guy and I when we dated I mean it was four months in and we were on a break. And I'm like, great. This is solid foundation. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Chanel: Very, very different. All of us. And it's so crazy you're like you said in all the nine and a half, ten years that you and Jay had been together, there was never an odd period. And this one guy and I when we dated I mean it was four months in and we were on a break. Four months. I love it. This is how we start off. We're all good. Yeah. Well yeah, that's

Bren/Seth: I'm just so curious and I I know a lot of females who have bi presenting husbands where they're willing to flirt with other dudes and they're probably curious. Yeah.

Chanel: So curious and I I know a lot of females who have by presenting husbands where they're willing to flirt with other duty. Right, exactly. Yeah.

Bren/Seth: And I'm like, I think your marriage would probably be better if you just came out a little bit. Yeah, just take your toe out of the closet and be like, is this safe for me? Because if you're in my circle, if I found out any of my friends' wives were bullying their husbands for being queer I would sleep with their husband. I would I'm gonna fuck your husband, then I'm gonna fuck your dad. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck your brother too. not at the same time. For the record

Chanel: Came out. And just hold him. Yeah, just Just tell me how you feel. Take your toe out. Probably wouldn't be friends anymore. I wouldn't thing. I would I would their husband really hard. And if you had a brother, probably him too. Yeah, I'm not like your brother. not at the same time. For the writers. yeah, please not.

Bren/Seth: See, that's little different for me.

Chanel: Getting all smuddy. I doubt he will. But I

Bren/Seth: hopefully he doesn't listen to this, but I doubt he will, but I I don't know. Dads just do it for me.

Chanel: There is something about a hot ad.

Bren/Seth: Yes. Speaking of Aaron

Chanel: Speaking of Aaron. And he's a good dad too. It's okay though. You're an average dad, but you're just average. Love that. She Chanel. She is I mean through years of knowing Chanel,

Bren/Seth: you're you're an average dad, but you're a ten out of ten mom. She Chanel is she is I mean, throughout the years of knowing Chanel,

Chanel: She is if I ever become a mom, she's the mom I aspire to be. I mean I love my kids, but I'm I am a fuck them kids mom. But I love my kids. I would never trade them for anybody or do anything different. But fuck them kids, man.

Bren/Seth: she is if I ever become a mom, she's the mom I aspire to be. I would never trade them for anybody or do anything different. Fuck them kids,

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Chanel: But

Bren/Seth: but

Chanel: I mean like legitimately.

Bren/Seth: I mean like legitimately though, and I think I've said this to you before, but I think the challenge if I were a parent, the challenge would be to raise kind, aware, knowing kids that like seek knowledge that seek to be good to other people. And I think your girls at a young age already have a concept of what curiosity and kindness are.

Chanel: That like seek knowledge that seek to be good to other people. And I think your girls at a young age already have a concept of what curiosity and kindness are. Yeah. And

Bren/Seth: And I think you give them great exposure to people who don't look and sound like you. I think they I they have friends and family. Yeah, like people who go through journeys that you guys haven't gone through but they can see those things and are exposed to it. I that's I think what makes you and Aaron ten out of ten and

Chanel: I think you give them great exposure to people who don't look and sound like you. I think of course, yes. They have friends and family. Yeah, like people who go through journeys that you guys haven't gone through, but they can see those things and exposed to it. I that's I think what makes you and Aaron ten out of ten. Aww, I love that. That's

Bren/Seth: What an amazing like how amazing is it that you guys don't limit yourself to like

Chanel: An amazing like how amazing is it that don't limit yourself to like the o

Bren/Seth: the o only the way that you see right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Chanel: only that you see right. Right, 'cause I mean we all have different views. I mean Aaron Aaron fucks around so no one really knows what his views are. But but the kids, I mean, I love that they ask questions. Sometimes I'm like, Why the why'd you ask that right now? But yeah, ask me questions and I'm

Bren/Seth: But yeah, ask me questions and

Chanel: I'm gonna explain the best I can to where they are respectful of others. Yeah and

Bren/Seth: Yeah, and you just expose them to so many different things. and I really appreciate that about you and Erin. Well thank you. Yeah.

Chanel: thank you. I love that. what did you think of

Bren/Seth: what did you think about Bryn when you first met him? I knew he was gay. Damn. was like I was like

Chanel: I knew he was gay. that's that was like I was like Brennan's gay. but honestly I I was I was kinda like standoffish because he was just he was quiet and he was very kept to himself. So when I first met him, we were kinda we it was like when we went to Rockport. my god. I told him Stephanie.

Bren/Seth: I was hoping you'd bring that up. I told this set when we talked about this, I like, She's gonna bring up something I want her to talk about. And honestly, like when we did go to E B I never

Chanel: Yeah. And honestly, like when we did go to H E B I'd never been to H E B before. I was like a kid in a candy store. my god. we bought matching body

Bren/Seth: matching.

Chanel: pillows and after that I was like, I kinda like him. But Aaron's like, No, he's a tattleteller. He'll tell on you for doing anything. I need to know why Aaron said that. Go. Brent Aaron thought

Bren/Seth: Yes. I need to know why Erin said that. Go.

Chanel: Brent tattletelled on him for smoking weed when he was little. And I think he did. But Brent still says to this day he did not.

Bren/Seth: And I think you did, but I did not. I did not. And it is insane that they still think that. Yeah. No. Because one I could have gave two shits about what Aaron was doing.

Chanel: Saying that they did a thing. I wasn't there, so I don't know. I really don't think Bryn would. But I could have gave two shits. Right? Like he was younger than you. Why did you care? And then second of all, it was probably Alonzo, but no one said nothing. but I do remember like they left me with Bryn all day because they went on a fishing trip and I was like, you

Bren/Seth: Yeah. but I do remember like they left me with friends all day because they went on a fishing trip and I was like

Chanel: know what, let's go shopping by pillows and Yeah, and actually, funny story, I still

Bren/Seth: Yeah, and actually, funny story, I still have that body pillow. And that was from the first time that Chanel and I met and I still so that pillow is as old as our friendship. my god. That's wild. Give me a little context. When did you guys first first meet? What age?

Chanel: Yeah, I don't, motherfucker. So that pillow is as old as our friendship. Literally. I was I was like fourteen, fifteen. No, I was fourteen 'cause it was before I had a liah. Yeah. So yeah, I was fourteen. What was that? Two thousand eleven? You're thirty six. You had Alaya. Twenty twelve. So two thousand eleven. So two thousand

Bren/Seth: Okay. Yeah, so what was that? Two thousand Well how old are you? You're thirty six. When did you have a liar? Twenty nine. Two thousand twelve? So two thousand eleven? Okay. Two thousand twelve is when we first met fourteen years. Okay Yeah, because yeah, because you weren't

Chanel: So yeah. Yeah, because yeah, because you weren't

Bren/Seth: in LaFours whenever I was going to college, were you? And I were still in that little time.

Chanel: So I barely just moved there. And I do remember you coming down and visiting, but we were still in that little tiny house. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane. Terrimous. My gosh. but yeah. I was hoping you'd bring up the pillow.

Bren/Seth: Got it. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane that it's been that long. Like but yeah, I was hoping you'd bring up the pillow and I was hoping you'd bring up the Aaron thinking that I ratted him out. And well just honestly, like I

Chanel: And I brought it both at the same time.

Bren/Seth: was like, Aaron, why would I give two shits? I didn't care if you were smoking weed or not. Yeah, we were the young

Chanel: you were like ten back then, so like really y you were young. No way. I don't s I don't know. And Brent doesn't even like weed anyways, so he couldn't give literally two shits. That's hilarious. Mm-hmm.

Bren/Seth: Dumb. Literally two shit. Just wild to me. That's crazy. But yeah. Actually in South Texas. We were in Rockport. my Rockport, Texas. His Aaron's grandmother owned a beach house there. Yeah. So so wood I woke up. Yeah, they got to stay at her house, which was a little inland.

Chanel: Actually in South Texas. South Rockport. Rockport, Texas. His Aaron's grandmother owned a beach house there. Yeah. So and it was hot. I woke up sticky as fuck. I was pissed. With air conditioner. With air conditioner, and they put me Chanel and Aaron in this beach house that was hot as no air conditioner. Human as fuck. And we had to sleep upstairs, so it's even hotter. I was like, yeah, we're definitely not having sex because we're gonna get stuck together. Not doing that. There it is. But yeah, they put us which was like, great, we get to go to the beach house. be fun. No, hell no, we were scared of alligators. They kept telling us there was

Bren/Seth: With air conditioning and they put me, Chanel, and Aaron in this beach house that was hot hell. Yeah. Yes. I was like, yeah, we're definitely not having sex because we're gonna get stuck here. Wow, there it is. But but yeah, they put us which it was I was like, great, we get to go to the beach house. That's gonna be fun. Yeah. No. We were scared of alligators.

Chanel: alligators if it rained too much. Now that think about it, they probably just didn't want us to get out

Bren/Seth: You know what, now that I think about it, they probably just didn't want us to get out and leave. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I was thinking. Idiots. At that time I was, you're right. Now I don't want to speak out to my

Chanel: Brennan was a goody two shoes, he would not have left. At that time. Now, if you want to sneak out tonight, Brennan, let's do it.

Bren/Seth: remote. Yeah, well, okay, so we're adults now though, so or do I won't?

Chanel: I still had to sneak out.

Bren/Seth: I love going down memory lane like that. Yeah, that was that was pretty cool. Yeah. I wish that hadn't happened. He's gonna change the story. There's gonna be like three episodes down the line. He's gonna be like when Brent and I met we bought body pillows and It was in Rockport and we stayed

Chanel: The story was in like three episodes down the line I met we bought body pillows. And I went to I went to Rockport with him.

Bren/Seth: in the speech house and we got skinny 'cause it was so hot

Chanel: So hot.

Bren/Seth: it was Hosana.

Chanel: And we didn't have sex 'cause it was too hot. We don't want to get stuck together.

Bren/Seth: Hell yes. We don't want to get stuck together. I'm actually Okay. That's a really good question because we have a friend who believes something differently than you might believe. Do you think that Brennan and I have ever messed around? no. I don't know. No. I don't know.

Chanel: Okay. Do you think that Brennan and I have ever messed around? no. I don't know. Do do y'all want So I don't know. I don't know. I mean, so honestly I don't but I mean I just don't the reason I don't is because I don't think that Know. Honestly, I don't know. I feel like y'all would get too close and then Bryn it can't be in a three person relationship and that's just

Bren/Seth: Do you know my salary? Hell yeah, he could be in a three person relationship. He'd be like, Yeah, because you know I'll we would never tell. It'll always be a little secret. We will never know. We didn't kiss. I don't like small talk. Okay, funny

Chanel: He'd be like just I don't know. I don't know, tell us, have you? we can never tell. It'll be a little secret. never kiss and tell. Then that's not fun. we can just get to the point. I love that.

Bren/Seth: So like how'd you meet? I was like, Walmart.

Chanel: Yeah, Walmart working at Walmart.

Bren/Seth: And that's just how it happened. We were in the lube aisle. We were looking at wet platinum. No, I shout out to Wet. We love a lubricant. The reason he

Chanel: Yummy. The reason he talked to or came up to me in Walmart is because I had

Bren/Seth: talked to or came up to me in Walmart is because I had lube condoms and a cucumber in my basket. And hairspray

Chanel: And a cucumber in my basket. And he's like, Sorry, you lonely?

Bren/Seth: and a bra. And I was like, what is happening here?

Chanel: yeah.

Bren/Seth: The bra was for Chanel. Thanks for ruining my bad. I never got it. well, we did things with it.

Chanel: I never got it. Ever. I don't want it.

Bren/Seth: we actually cut the cucumbers in half and used the bra as a catapult. I want it.

Chanel: I want it. I want it. I saw your face and do you remember what I said? No. Something

Bren/Seth: I saw your face and do you remember what I said? Nope. I said, No,

Chanel: about its eyes. No.

Bren/Seth: it was his hair. I was like, Okay, long hair queen. Yeah, yeah. Something too. I remember that, yeah. And I was like, What is this? And I remember I was going through a phase where I was like, I'm gonna love myself. Like it doesn't matter if I'm two hundred and fifty pounds or I'm I'm hundred and eighty five pounds, I have to figure out to love me now. And part of that was expressing what I found beautiful in other people. And so when I when we had our first conversation, I was like, Okay, bitch, I love your hair. And he was so confident and like

Chanel: Phase where I like, I'm gonna love myself. Like it doesn't matter if I'm 250 pounds or I'm 185 pounds. I have to figure out to love me now. And part of that was expressing what I found beautiful in other people. Okay. And so when I when we had our first conversation, I was like, Okay, bitch, I love your hair. Look at it it was straight and had some blonde in it. Uhhuh. I missed the blonde but now now

Bren/Seth: look at it and it was straight and had some blonde in it. Uh-huh. And I was like, I love this. I was a blonde queen.

Chanel: I think it's I was a platinum blonde queen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't maybe that picture was of earlier. I think it was a little bit Yeah, because you were still working your way. Yeah. But you were blonde, bitch. You weren't blonde. Looked good.

Bren/Seth: was a platinum blonde queen. Yeah. It's insane how platinum I was. But I don't Maybe that picture was often. I think it was a little before I had fully finished. Yeah. But yeah. Do you remember the next question I asked you? No. Do you know how to do makeup? And

Chanel: No.

Bren/Seth: look at us two like fat bitches staring at each other in Walmart, gay as hell. We have nothing makeup. We have nothing on our walls at our

Chanel: We have nothing. We have nothing on our walls at our

Bren/Seth: houses. We do we barely know how to dress ourselves. We shop at American Eagle. And I'm like, please tell me you know how to do makeup. Like, please, because I need to learn and literally,

Chanel: He's like, no, Schnell's girl's door. Literally.

Bren/Seth: yeah, because you will not catch me doing makeup. Which we have talked about this over and over. over and over of like doing makeup and and practicing just for fun and we have yet we have yet to do that, Seth. Yeah. And we need to do it. Yeah. Because

Chanel: just for fun. You should. We have yet to do that. It doesn't smell that Yeah. And we need to do it. Yeah. Because

Bren/Seth: I've been in I've been in drag

Chanel: been in drag two or three times and I had a professional

Bren/Seth: Two or three times and I had a professional do it the first time. I actually Dentley stole one of her wigs. If you're out there. Please let me know how I can re I

Chanel: it was an accident.

Bren/Seth: have it and you can have it back. It wasn't on purpose. I was dating a guy and I thought that guy had returned the wig. So years later, I'm unpacking from moving into a new house and I unpack this wig. And I was like, Well, it's been years. I can't at that time I think it had been six or seven years.

Chanel: It's been years. I can't at that time I think it'd have been six or seven years.

Bren/Seth: I was like, I cannot return this wig to her right now. I it's so embarrassing. So

Chanel: It's so embarrassing. So

Bren/Seth: Renee, if you hear this I love you. And I will I will give you this wig and I will buy you a wig that looks like it as well. and she's amazing. I actually really love her. Shout out to a lot of the gorgeous drag queens in OK C. See, I wanna get wigs put on my neck. I wanna have a big ass PPI.

Chanel: Renee, if you hear that I love you. And I will I will give you this wig and I will buy you a wig that looks like it as well. and she's amazing, I actually really love her. Shout out to a lot of the gorgeous drag queens in OK. See, I wanna get wigs put on like them. I wanna have a big ass, poofy ass blue ponytail wig hair. my gosh. One of my most favorite queens in the entire world, Roxy Andrews, does this

Bren/Seth: Roxy Andrews, one of my most favorite queens in the entire world, Roxy Andrews does this beautiful wig and it's like five wigs into one. Yes. And it's huge. It is s But she's a s she's a stunning queen in general, so Yeah.

Chanel: That's cool. That's what I want.

Bren/Seth: unpopular opinion people may unfollow us 'cause I just said that. But we love her. Love me some Roxy Andrews. Actually we love creativity around here, so that's why we follow and love

Chanel: Creativity around here. So we follow in love along.

Bren/Seth: a lot of people. Yeah. it. I do want to go back to a comment where you said you will not catch me doing makeup. Is that because you don't want to wear makeup? Like you're against guys wearing makeup or you

Chanel: I do want to go back to a comment where you said you will not catch me doing makeup. Is that because you don't want to wear makeup? Like you're against guys wearing makeup or you just

Bren/Seth: just haven't done it yet? because I haven't done it yet. Okay, perfect. Yeah, it's absolutely horrible. There's an issue artistry?

Chanel: Yeah, it's absolutely horrible. It's it's like such of a artistry, it's hard to do. Like I'm not even good at it anymore. I used to be good, I saw it for a couple of years and now I can't do shit.

Bren/Seth: Did you do your makeup for your wedding? No. Some a professional did that? Yeah. Yeah. your of you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and thanks for shout out to me. We is it that was your gift, right? Or one of your gifts? Okay. I love it.

Chanel: No. Yeah, yeah, professional did it and she was amazing. I was proud of her. Thanks, sh thanks, Brent. Shout out to you. We it's a that was your gift, right? Yes. And he found her too last minute.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. I shout out to the dress. Can you remind me who made it? But I because I don't think it was like

Chanel: I would have to look. I don't think it was like No, it's it's it's some kind of designer mm, I'd have to look. It's in my closet. Yes, there you go. Yes, okay. Yeah. I was thinking for a moment that you hadn't gotten it from where I thought you got it. Anyway.

Bren/Seth: it's some kind of designer. I don't it was a Galena signature. I knew your dress. Yes, okay. Yeah. I was thinking for a moment that you hadn't gotten it from where I thought you got it. Anyway. I I d you guys maybe don't know me well enough and I know I've told you this before, but I am really harsh on wedding dresses. Number one, if the bride is comfortable, I'm ecstatic for her. Okay. That's my number one thing. When the bride loves it, I'm here for it. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't change things, okay?

Chanel: Number one, if the bride is comfortable, I'm ecstatic for her. I was. changed by

Bren/Seth: There's not one thing I would have changed about your dress.

Chanel: Thank you. I love that. It literally, Brynn, we almost walked out without a dress. And Becca and me turned around and

Bren/Seth: Brynn we almost walked out with Becca and me turned around and

Chanel: Becca was like, What about this one? And I pulled it, tried it on, and balled my eyes out. It was it. It was it. Yeah, as soon as it was on and my

Bren/Seth: Yeah, as soon as it was on and and mind you, everyone cried when you put it on. But then they put the veil on and the water works were just i everyone. altered, but it zipped up like a freaking glove. Yeah. No, no.

Chanel: And the butterwork everyone And yeah, I was gonna get it altered, but it zipped up like a frickin' glove. I didn't have to do anything. It was it was insane.

Bren/Seth: The length was perfect. But I think also with you being taller, that helps. the funny thing is what drove me sexy is that lady

Chanel: Yes. The only thing is what drove me crazy is that lady kept putting like where you hang it up on a hanger on my wrist. That did not go there. That didn't even look good. No. that wasn't at David's bridal, right? no, it was at Bella's Bella's bridle. Yeah. Bella's Norman. Okay. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah. And now

Bren/Seth: It does not go there. that wasn't at David's bridal, right? Or it was No. It was at Bella's Bella's bridal. Yeah, but in Norman, Oklahoma. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah.

Chanel: Thank you. That day was kinda almost like a fairy tale. it was perfect. But it was I don't know

Bren/Seth: Thank But it was I don't know, the moment you put it on y we I I knew exactly. Because the first dress you tried on, absolutely beautiful. I loved it. It wasn't the style you wanted. But seeing it on you, I was like, that is so pretty. And honestly, if you would have not found that dress, the one you picked, or we would have went to other places and you wouldn't have found one, I would have that would have been a safe bet because I knew that you you liked it. It wasn't like you were in love with it. But I it. But you did like it. Yeah.

Chanel: Exactly. Because the first dress you tried on, absolutely beautiful. I loved it. It was it wasn't the style you wanted. It was very princess. Seeing it on you, I was like, that is so pretty. And honestly, if you would have not found that dress, the one you picked, or we would have went to other places and you wouldn't have found one. I would have that would have been a safe bet because I'm you you liked it. It wasn't like you were in love with it. But I did like it. You did like it fit pretty. and that was one that I think Savannah had picked out for me. And yeah. Yeah, it did it looked pretty

Bren/Seth: Yeah. Yeah, that was what Savannah picked for you.

Chanel: well. Wasn't it though? It really was.

Bren/Seth: It really was. For everybody listening it was flawless. that whole day was flawless. It was so much, really good

Chanel: Thank you.

Bren/Seth: day. and then I I got drunk and then people kept asking me for rides on the golf cart and I was like, Okay

Chanel: Get on. Let's go.

Bren/Seth: Let's go. Okay, so I think this is a kinda like a little fun game. So only two can answer when it's about the other person. So what's the most Bryn thing in this friendship? In whose friendship? In this in all three of us. Okay, fantastic. And only you two can answer. What is the most Bren thing? Say it again. Okay.

Chanel: Okay. So what's the most brin thing in this friendship? In whose friendship? In this in all three of us. Okay, fantastic. And only you two can answer. What is the most openness. Say it again. Openness. Say

Bren/Seth: Same more things. I thought you were about to deep throat your mic the way you said openness.

Chanel: more thing. I thought you deep throat your mouth. no, I'm sorry. Openness. Like to be very open with everybody. very open with everything. you're talking about like all of us.

Bren/Seth: are you talking about like open dialogue or open to different lives?

Chanel: Like for instance, your house and my house were completely different. But Bryn is very open to be he can come to either one of our house and just walk in and just chill on the couch all day. You know how to say a word. You can go eat whatever you want, but you know, just in comfortability, I guess. There you go.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. They you know, that makes a lot of sense with like being a Gemini. You know, they a lot a lot of being a Gemini is very being able to be a chameleon and you kind of like blend in anywhere you go. You play the Gemini role like kind of perfect. Yeah.

Chanel: You play the Gemini role like perfect. So that matches you to a T. Yeah. Have we ever looked to see if you have a stellion?

Bren/Seth: Have we ever looked to see if you have a stellium in Gemini as well? I was checked last week and I don't think I have anything. not an S T D. I thought a stellium was an S T D.

Chanel: Did is not an S T D I thought stallion was an S T D

Bren/Seth: I said I just went to the doctor, I don't. no shame if you did for the record. We do not slut

Chanel: no shame if you did for the record.

Bren/Seth: shame. I'll let's get you some penicillin.

Chanel: is

Bren/Seth: What is the most brand thing about our friendship? Like this triad right here. I think the most Bryn thing

Chanel: Brynn thing.

Bren/Seth: about Bryn is how balanced he makes me. Okay. I think that in this friendship I especially with the people that I've gotten close to like you, that I can be confident in whatever circle I'm in.

Chanel: How balanced he makes me. Okay. I think that in this friendship I especially with the people that I've gotten close to like you that I I can be confident in whatever circle I'm in. It does not matter how much money I do or don't have, it doesn't matter what I drive.

Bren/Seth: It does not matter how much money I do or don't have, it doesn't matter what I drive. I genuinely feel like the circles that I'm in with Bryn, it's all about the contents of my heart. You know what I'm saying? Like I get that. Like I I feel like the people who are really good judges of character and have been through shit and really know what horrible people look like.

Chanel: I genuinely feel like the circles that I'm in with Brynn, it's all about the contents of my heart. Exactly. I love that. Yeah, I totally feel I get that. Like I I feel like the people who are really good judges of character and have been through shit and really know what horrible people look like give me a hug when I meet them. Yeah. And I feel like that, these judges of character like Mary or Becca, Savannah, these people

Bren/Seth: give me a hug when I meet them. And I feel like that, these judges of character like Mary or Becca, Savannah, these people,

Chanel: Ben when they meet me and they're like, Cool we fuck with you It's acceptance. So I think that yeah I

Bren/Seth: Ben, when they meet me and they're like, Cool, we fuck with you, it's acceptance. So I think that

Chanel: I would juxtapose balance to also like me as a person is that Brin has kind of made me meaner and not he does that. He does. think you don't mean mean as in like no an asshole. But yeah mean

Bren/Seth: I would juxtapose balance to also like me as a person is that Brent has kind of made me meaner. And that's and I think you don't mean mean as in like no you bitch, fuck you. Mean as in setting boundaries.

Chanel: in setting boundaries. And you know your self worth. can I add context? Yeah.

Bren/Seth: can I add context? Yeah. Because I I absolutely that sounded passive, not how to mention it. I do not mean that he makes me like more aggressive or makes me more willing to beat people up. It's that like I sometimes have to be mean to be clear. I have to get a stern tone, I have to use intense words, I have to be really intimate in the way I deliver.

Chanel: That he makes me like more aggressive or makes me more willing to beat people up. It's that like I sometimes have to be mean to be clear. Exactly. I have to get a stern tone, I have to use intense words, I have to be really intimate in the way I deliver.

Bren/Seth: This is not how you're going to speak to me or look at me or treat me.

Chanel: This is not how you're going to speak to me or look at me or treat me. like for instance, we were some friends and I were walking into a bar at the Paseo,

Bren/Seth: like for instance we were some friends and I were walking into a bar at the Paseo

Chanel: and this lady maybe ten yards ahead of me was just staring. I was in a t-shirt and shorts, normal shoes, you know. Most of the time I'm in a crop top. Yeah, wear whatever you want. No, I feel like I was dressed like that. I was dressed like Chad. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Everybody's listening, everybody who's listening pick knows what Chad looks like. Well, she's just staring at me and then she kind of gets a stank look.

Bren/Seth: And this lady maybe ten yards ahead of me was just staring. I was in a t shirt and shorts, normal shoes, you know. Most of the time I'm in a crop top, short shorts, and some heels, right? But no, I feel like I was dressed like that I was dressed like Chad, if you will. Like everybody's listening, everybody who's listening pick knows who Chad looks like. Well, she's just staring at me and then she kinda gets a stank look

Chanel: And I buck at her. I'm like, look at what you got something you need to say, sister? And she just turns around. And I feel like I've gained enough confidence in our friendship to be like

Bren/Seth: and I buck at her. I'm like, look at what you got something you need to say, sister? And she just turns around. And I feel like I've gained enough confidence in our friendship to be like

Chanel: I'm obviously I wouldn't have fought her, but like why are you staring at me? Yeah, like you have no reason to be looking at me like that. So that might be like a small, like a micro version of some of the things that you've provided me, but I think

Bren/Seth: I obviously I wouldn't have fought her, but like why are you staring at me? Like you have no reason to be looking at my Like plain language, what what is happening here? So that might be like a small, like a micro version of some of the things that you've provided me, but I think

Chanel: He definitely makes me want to beat people up more. I mean,

Bren/Seth: it definitely makes me want to be people up. But I think the therapy way to say that is like we're I I think he strengthens my ability to make boundaries and to say it really sternly. Mm-hmm. Did that make sense? Yeah. I mean, I that's my biggest thing is like I will protect

Chanel: yeah. I I think he strengthens my ability to make boundaries. okay. And just say it really sternly. I love that. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean I that's my biggest thing is like I will protect my piece. I will always choose me first.

Bren/Seth: my peace. I will always choose me first.

Chanel: Like I will always be first and that took me a while to do. Yeah. And I I just I I want everyone to understand it and you know by protecting my piece if it pisses someone off else off, that sounds like it's a them problem. Yeah. Because it's not it's it's it's you, not me. So that is just what I try to put out in the world.

Bren/Seth: Like I will always be first and that took me a while to do. Yeah. And I I just I I want everyone to understand it and you know, by protecting my piece if it pisses someone off else off, that sounds like it's a them problem. Yeah. Because it's not it's it's it's you, not me. So that is just what I try to put out in the world. Yeah. Hopefully

Chanel: piggyback off of what Seth said, like you have done that for me as well. Like

Bren/Seth: it picks.

Chanel: just sticking up for myself. Finally doing stuff just for me. You are the person that's like, do it, you deserve it. And I'm like, hell yeah I do. Fuck

Bren/Seth: Sticking up for myself. up for myself. I like doing stuff just for me. You are like, do it. You deserve it. Hell yeah, I do.

Chanel: yeah I'm do it. You know? So yeah, thank you for being that person, Brand for everybody around you honestly.

Bren/Seth: Yes. Snaps to bring. I am gonna

Chanel: do

Bren/Seth: do say one more thing about something you said and I think it was really beautiful, is that you always pour into yourself first. But I think that is the biggest sign of loving others. Because when I'm whole, I can be exactly who you need me to be at that time.

Chanel: think that is the biggest sign of loving others. Because when I'm whole, I can be exactly who you need me to be. Right. You can be your full potential, yes, of course.

Bren/Seth: Exactly. I can reach that potential I need in our friendships, in our conversations, because the self care that I put into me

Chanel: I can reach that potential I need in our friendships, in our conversations, because the self care that I put into me

Bren/Seth: turns back into I can pour that into other people. So I just want to make it super clear that that is not being selfish. That is not being like egotistical. Yeah. That is boundary setting. That is kindness to yourself. That is loving yourself very much so, we're gonna continue this because I really like it. but the same question but for Seth. So like I'm gonna go first. I

Chanel: turns back into it's like a think with other people. So I just want to make it super clear that that is not being selfish. That is artistic. That is boundary setting. That is loving yourself. Yes. Loving yourself very much. Yay. I love that. we're gonna continue this because I really like it. but the same question but for Seth. So like I'm gonna do a person

Bren/Seth: know that wasn't like a clear my throat 'cause I'm gonna cry because I don't. my gosh. Now you're gonna cry. Look, her eyes are watering. Fuck her. Not watering. No

Chanel: No, that wasn't like I cleared my throat 'cause I'm gonna cry because I don't cry. Don't do it.

Bren/Seth: thank you. but for me for Seth I noticed this but like I know Chanel's noticed it and then a couple of my family members and friends actually within the past two weeks I've had this voice to me from two people, Chanel being one, is that you know, Seth in my friendship has been different. It's no friendship like I've had before and everyone that has just noticed it is like I it's so wild to me how much you are becoming more of you and you know, being more open to being queer, you know. I I

Chanel: this but like I know Chanel's noticed it and then a couple of my family members and friends actually within the past two weeks I've had this voice to me from two people, Chanel being one, is that you know Seth and my friendship has been different. It's no friendship like I've had before. And everyone that has just noticed it is like I it's so wild to me how much you are becoming more of you and being more open to being queer, you know I I

Bren/Seth: I have nothing against my straight friends, having that gay, queer friend relationship makes it a little bit easier to open and then just like you said earlier, Seth, like it I may have brought up your confidence, but you have definitely put me into scenarios that I never would have imagined being in and like it's wild. Yeah. So you know.

Chanel: against my straight friends, having that gay, queer friend relationship makes it a little bit easier to open and then just like you said earlier, Seth, like it I may have brought up your confidence, but you have definitely put me into scenarios that I never would have imagined being in and like it's wild. you can see it too, Bryn, for sure. You need a good friend like that. Even though you know you said you love your straight friend.

Bren/Seth: You said you love your friends.

Chanel: But I mean, it's a great relationship. I love that for y'all. I really do.

Bren/Seth: I know that you and Seth don't see each other each other as much as like him and I do, but like what is it for you if for Seth?

Chanel: know that you and Seth don't see each other each other as much as like him and I do, but like what is it for if we're set? he has definitely taught me to be more open. Just with anything sexuality being one. But I've noticed it with Aaron as well. And that is something that's very hard to do is pull somebody like that out of a show. And for instance, like your birthday, psh I mean I

Bren/Seth: I'll be being one. But I noticed it with Erin as well. And that is something that's very hard to do is pull somebody like that at a show. And for instance, like your birthday, psh, I mean

Chanel: wouldn't have even ever dressed up like that, but that was a coolest thing that we've ever done is to put bobs on and wear our moo moos and like Aaron did it too. We went out to the public. And we went out in public and

Bren/Seth: ever done is to put bobs on and wear our moo's and Aaron did it too. And we went out to the public.

Chanel: walked around and you know I just like was like I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about any of us. And that is what Seth has brought to me for sure. Just don't care. Be you and have fun and love yourself and love everybody else because that's what that's what you do Seth. And we love that. Thank you guys.

Bren/Seth: Bren's birthday, we planned where we would put on these fuck ass bobs. They were all different vibrant, like neon esque colors. And there were five of us. Six of us. Five. Me, Jay, Brenn, Chanel, and Aaron. We all put on these bobs, we put on our moo moos, and we went and did a paint and sip. And it was so much fun. I have to tell you though, I got a little

Chanel: They were all different vibrant like neon esque colors. And there were five of us. Six of us. Five. Yeah. Me, Jay, Bryn, Chanel, and Aaron. We all put on these bobs, we put on our moo's and we went and did a paint and sip. And it was so much fun. have to tell you though, I got a lot

Bren/Seth: hot a couple times because Aaron told me he didn't have on underwear and I was like, no. He had on wear anything else under there. Yeah. It was like he had underwear on. He showed me. did he? Don't ruin it for me.

Chanel: I know, I was surprised. He didn't wear any he just didn't wear anything else under there but that. I was surprised. He went he I know, he said he goes, I kept opening my legs under the table and Seth and Jay were like across, so I didn't want to flash him some balls. So I went ahead and put on a robe. I was like, my god, flash the balls, babe, it's fine. That's like that's coming into our lives is like being new to not being sexual. So like I don't know what that would have been

Bren/Seth: That's funny. No, we wouldn't have cared. that's like super weird. That's something that's coming into our lives is like being new to not being sexual. So like I don't know it that would have even phased me. Like I would have been like, Okay, cool that happened. And see, and that's something I mean we've talked about this. I don't know if I could ever do that. Interesting. Be nude and not be sexual.

Chanel: phased me. Right? Yeah. Okay, cool, that happened. And see, and that's something I mean we've talked about this. I don't know if I could ever do that. Interesting. Being nude being sexual. I can definitely do that. I could be nude too. I could be nude, but I don't know to me my brain associates it with being sexual. Yeah. If you're around someone, you know what I mean? I don't know. I feel that. Okay, so then the question would be for you and me about channel. Okay. Channel.

Bren/Seth: I could be nude. I could be nude, but I don't know to me my brain associates it with being sexual. Yeah. If you're around someone. You know what I mean? I don't know. I feel that. Okay, so then the question would be for you and me about channel. Okay. Channel. So one, your openness and you know

Chanel: You moved here or I moved here and then you moved here not long after to Oklahoma. Yep. So we've been in here about we've been in Oklahoma around the same amount of time. And I mean I went in I came here, I met one friend. Mm-hmm. absolutely love her. Shout out to Holly. but having someone that was closer by me and then being able to build that friendship didn't talk before that, we did with No, not at all. And we were in the same fucking

Bren/Seth: You moved here or I moved here and then you moved here not long after to Oklahoma. So we've been in here about we've been in Oklahoma around the same amount of time. And I mean, I went in I came here, I met one friend. absolutely love her. Shout out to Holly. but having someone that was closer by me and then being able to build that friendship because we didn't talk before that. Like it was not at all. Nothing we're in the same phone.

Chanel: house. Why were we not talking? Yeah, we lived in the same house for what the fuck a couple of months and we didn't say probably five words to each other. No,

Bren/Seth: Yeah, we lived in the same house for like a couple of months and we didn't say probably five words to each other.

Chanel: we were I mean Brennan was tired all the time. There was too many damn kids in that house. Nobody

Bren/Seth: Yeah.

Chanel: ever wanted to be social in there, so we all just stayed in our rooms. And then you know I'd moved down.

Bren/Seth: And then, you know, I'd moved out and then you and Erin had moved out and y'all started inviting me over. Well, one to do your hair.

Chanel: Mm-hmm.

Bren/Seth: and then it just blossomed from there. But like as far as like what you bring to the friendship that I absolutely love is that I did move away from home, so I don't get to see my niece and nephews as much and like I get that fulfillment with your kids.

Chanel: So I get to see my niece and nephews as much and like I get that fulfillment with your kids. I'm a pizza home for you. Yes. And you know, I absolutely adore your kids. yesterday in the dollar store. I said one thing, they got two things. And then also I was hoping Millie and Miley did not hear this.

Bren/Seth: Yes. And you know I absolutely adore your kids. yesterday took to dollar store. I said one thing, they got two things. And then also I was hoping Millie and Miley did not hear this, but when we were walking away from an aisle, a lady, an old lady, had been over and farted. And she goes, excuse me and lifted up and I was like, Keep walking, keep walking.

Chanel: She goes, excuse me, and lifted up and was like, keep down. You know, because if my kids would have heard that. I know, and I was like, Please say they didn't hear that because she's like, Did you fart?

Bren/Seth: I know and I like, please say they didn't hear that 'cause they're gonna be like, Did you fart? So it just I don't know, it w w I guess maybe all in all what I'm saying is like you brought family and I I enjoyed that.

Chanel: Which is I don't know, it w w I guess maybe all in all what I'm saying is like you brought family. Okay. And I I enjoyed that. thank you. I love that.

Bren/Seth: That's really beautiful. Yeah.

Chanel: That's it's nice, yeah, for sure. I actually was going to I don't know why I felt so intimately about this. So my answer to sh are done my answer to Chanel, or to the question about Chanel. I was gonna write a letter and then it just kept getting cornier in my head and then I wanna make sure it comes from a place of like love and that we're equals and we're biffles. Right. That I I don't know why it was so important to me, but it was wild.

Bren/Seth: I actually was going to I don't know why I felt so intimately about this. So my answer to sh are you done? My answer to Chanel, or to the question about Chanel. I was gonna write a letter and then it just kept getting cornier in my head and then I wanna make sure it comes from a place of like love and that we're equals and we're biffles. Right. That I I don't know why it was so important to me, but it was wild.

Chanel: It is to to see the resilience so I and that is not to say that you have come from the worst places or the best places No, no, I get it. It is that like

Bren/Seth: it is to to see the resilience And so I and that is not to say that you have come from the worst places or the best places or comparing it to my journey. It is that like

Chanel: so many it it would be easy to point at any part of your life and be like

Bren/Seth: so many it would be easy to point at any part of your life and be like, This was too hard. I'm I'm not ever doing anything like I'm not going to survive this. I'm not going to X, Y, and Z. And the fact that you are you're here and you're able to love people so intimately and you're able to be kind and have healthy relationships and then raise three children. and then help kind of raise your friends. I

Chanel: This was too hard. I I'm not ever doing anything like I'm not going to survive this. I'm not going to X, Y, and Z. And the fact that you are you're here and you're able to love people so intimately and you're able to be kind and have healthy relationships and then raise three children. and then help kind of raise your friends. I I'm just so proud for you. I'm proud with you. I am impressed by the resilience because it's so

Bren/Seth: I'm just so proud for you, I'm proud with you, I am impressed by the resilience because it's so it's a testament to like the character that the universe built into your soul when they were making you 'cause that shit's gonna make me

Chanel: it's a testament to like the character that the universe built into your soul when they were making you because that shit's gonna make me cry. So I I I don't feel like a lot of people see me, so it's nice to feel seen, you know.

Bren/Seth: Yeah. Brenda and I have talked about it before and I've always been kind of afraid to talk about it because my life is vanilla. Like I I haven't overcome like I said a tenth of of what you've experienced in your life and and being a young mother and then like the proximity to some of the other things you've dealt with and and then I think about like our journeys are so individual and none of us at the table this table has given up, obviously, right?

Chanel: Like I I haven't overcome like I said a tenth of of what you've experienced in your life and and being a young mother and then like the proximity to some of the other things you've dealt with and and then I think about like our journeys are so individual and none of us at the table this table has given up. Right. yeah. We're not a we're not giver uppers. Okay, yeah, we don't talk about that.

Bren/Seth: I just just on my weight loss journey. Rock on dude. Just keep giving up on that. I love that. Cool. Okay.

Chanel: I've gained twelve pounds since my wedding, so it's fine. I love that. No, I love that. That was those were sweet answers. Y'all are so sweet.

Bren/Seth: I'm that was a really good question. Should we go on to the the questions or the next question? The questions. I know I want to know this one. okay. Yeah, this one. Yeah. He's trying to avoid this one.

Chanel: The questions or the next question? I know I wanna know this one. okay. Yeah, this one. Yeah, he's trying to avoid this

Bren/Seth: I don't have my contacts in. so you don't know what it is? The phone's too far from my face. I love it.

Chanel: I don't have my context in it. so you don't know what it is? I love it. I love that too. I love it.

Bren/Seth: I saw that one. No, they're right here. I just did one worm. Got it. Okay. It says for Chanel number one. What is one thing you've always wanted to ask Brynn or want to know about him but never asked? Think about it. I'm not saying I know the answer, but I'm saying like I want you to think about it.

Chanel: No, they're right here. I just did one word. Got it. my gosh. Okay. It says for Chanel number one. What is one thing you've always wanted to ask Bryn or want to know about him but never asked? Think about it. I'm not saying I know the answer, but I'm saying like I want you to think about it.

Bren/Seth: Like nothing has ever like immediately came to your mind. I have one. you're gonna ask two? No, but I just thought of one that might give Chanel a little bit of time to think. Yeah, do that. What's your body

Chanel: but I just thought of one that might give Chanel a little bit of time to think. Yeah, do that.

Bren/Seth: count? shit.

Chanel: That's a good one. Friends and family. Please pause or skip. I would either fast forward or get off of here.

Bren/Seth: friends and family. if you do not wanna hear this part, I would I would either fast forward or get off of Yeah. but you don't have to answer. That's personal. yeah. Hold on, what what are we counting body count? Is that like Yep.

Chanel: Yep.

Bren/Seth: Yes. Okay. I'm gonna guess. Okay, go. Seven.

Chanel: Well health. I'm not gonna say but I'm gonna

Bren/Seth: I'm not gonna say, but I'm gonna show y'all. my god. Okay, that's perfect. I love it. Because I don't want it. Okay. Do what? Are you gonna like that's a good one to draw it up to a take a picture

Chanel: I love it. Did you just do this? I look I probably had to type it out on the Snapchat. Do what? Are you gonna like that's a good one to talk about? Yeah, hold it up to

Bren/Seth: and draw. that's really funny. The everyone's gonna be like, you have to tell us what you said.

Chanel: the everyone's gonna be like, you have to tell us what you said. No,

Bren/Seth: I came up with a number about two months ago. Interesting. So it's funny that you asked that. Okay. Three, two, one, go. Okay. He hasn't showed us yet for everybody who's listening in anticipation. mom, if you're listening to this, Mary, it's zero people. She saved herself. This is zero. The Lord and Savior

Chanel: Interesting. So it's kind of funny that you asked that. Okay. Three, two, one, go. Okay. He hasn't showed us yet for everybody who's listening in anticipation. Mom, if you're listening to this, Mary, it's zero people if you save yourself for Mary. Yes, Virgin. The Lord and Savior.

Bren/Seth: saved me. god, what is this? Okay, y'all ready? Yes.

Chanel: Ha That is so little that's so little. Okay. let's see. What's my question? I had to type it out before I forgot. Okay. Moving on. Brent, have you been with someone that I know but you haven't told me?

Bren/Seth: Good.

Chanel: No, this is the thing. You don't have to tell me who, just tell me yes or no. but okay, so when you say you've been with them, what hook up, hook up or anything. Have you been with them? Top version, bottom version, anything. Anything.

Bren/Seth: Okay, so when you say been with him, what is the hook up or anything? top version, bottom version, anything. Fast low, understall, park bathroom, kiss, penetration,

Chanel: Yeah.

Bren/Seth: the mouth hug.

Chanel: Mouth. hug is not rough. No. No. Any oral or non oral.

Bren/Seth: I'm a hundred percent yes. The next episode should be us guessing. Who it's just Chanel and me, we do a secret episode where like And I honestly,

Chanel: I figured with that low body count. So it should be us guessing. Guessing who's Brandman?

Bren/Seth: we probably could come up with a name. Anyway. I love it.

Chanel: And I can't say that on this plan no. Anyways. Okay, Chanel, we're gonna play a game. Okay.

Bren/Seth: Okay, Chanel, we're gonna play a game. Is it time for our game? Yep, it's time for Time for our game.

Chanel: okay, so we're gonna play game when opposites attack. Okay. The answer

Bren/Seth: okay, so we're gonna play the game when opposites attach. The answer to the question will either be Seth or Bryn. It will never be neither or both. If you get past all the other if you get all ten questions right, you win zero American dollars and our friendship.

Chanel: or Bren. It will never be neither or both. Okay. Seth or both. Okay. If you get all ten questions right, you win zero American dollars. And our

Bren/Seth: I love that. Okay, odd or even, bitch. Even okay, Brian's gonna take even, I'm gonna take odd. Are you ready? And you get like five seconds to answer, so it's gotta be quick.

Chanel: Even. Okay, Brent's gonna take even, I'm gonna take odd. Are you ready? Okay. You get like five seconds to answer, so it's okay quick.

Bren/Seth: Or not, I don't care. Whose first car was a Ford Focus? Brennan.

Chanel: Brennan.

Bren/Seth: Correct. Correct. Who played the national anthem on the saxophone for their high school graduation? Seth. Which one of us at some point that was true. It was Seth. Which one of us at some point was in high school at the same time as two of our siblings? Brennan.

Chanel: Seth. Which one of us at some point that was true, it was Seth. Which one of us at some point was in high school at the same time as two of our siblings? Brennan. Which one of us took gymnastics in college?

Bren/Seth: Which one of us took gymnastics in college?

Chanel: Seth. Correct. Which one of us?

Bren/Seth: Which one of us took our depreciation in college and the teacher died the first day?

Chanel: That sounds like some Seth. I knew it. I was gonna say that, but then I was like who played tennis all four years in high school? Seth.

Bren/Seth: Brendan. That's me. who played tennis all four years in high school? Zet. Brennan. That'd be me. Who went to state for tennis in high school? Zet.

Chanel: Who went to state for tennis in high school? Seth.

Bren/Seth: Correct. Yes. Which one of us received an honorable mention in high school for

Chanel: Which one of us received an honorable mention in high school for

Bren/Seth: being in a one act play? Brennan. Yep. I like it. my god.

Chanel: Brennan? Yep. Me too. I did too.

Bren/Seth: That is wild. okay, what are we on? Number nine. Who was forced to sleep in his car on campus because the snow made it impossible to drive. I love that. Have I told you that before? I said that.

Chanel: campus because the snow made it impossible to drive. Brennan. I love that. Have I told you that no but Amarello, there's a lot of snow.

Bren/Seth: When we were making these, I was like, if she knows I was an imarello, she will know that that's true. I love it.

Chanel: She knows I was an imarello, she will know that that's true. Yep. I love it. Which one of us took a set of twins to prom but ended up meeting a different girl from the same prom and dated

Bren/Seth: which one of us took a set of twins to prom but ended up meeting a different girl from the same prom and dated her for ten months?

Chanel: her ten months? Seth. Wow, Seth. That's not not nice.

Bren/Seth: Okay, eight out of ten. You also won zero American dollars, but you still get to be a friend. that's not how set out of ten. here is your bonus 11th question. You can make it up. It's all or nothing here. You can only answer Seth or Bryn. Not both or neither. Okay.

Chanel: It's fine. It's fine. here is your bonus eleventh question. You can make it up. It it's all or nothing here. You can only answer Seth or Gren. not both or neither. Okay.

Bren/Seth: Ready? Who is Bryn's best friend?

Chanel: Both of us. We can do it together. There's no rules in that way. I was like, she'll think it's funny. I had so much fun. This is great. Thanks for having me. I had such a good time. It really did

Bren/Seth: me, bitch. He was like, We have to add that in. I was like, She'll think it's funny. good, good, good. Fantastic. Anything else you want chat about? no. Thank you for coming on. I had the time. I really did

Chanel: feel like hanging out. Like I loved that. I love that. Yeah, it a good time. Good conversation. Yeah.

Bren/Seth: Right. Yeah, it was such a good time, good conversation. Yeah, I think it ended up being a blast. super appreciative that you took the time to come and hang out with us. I think it's it might be easy to sit and like chat with us, but I think it's a testament to who you are and your character to be able to talk about some of the more intimate things and and I appreciate the answer to the questions.

Chanel: it might be easy to sit and like chat with us, but I think it's a testament to who you are and your character to be able to talk about some of the more intimate things. Yeah. and I appreciate the answer to the questions. fantastic.

Bren/Seth: Fantastic. Alrighty. So you can find Seth and I on Facebook, Instagram at When Opposites Attach. give us a follow, and we will be releasing episodes weekly soon.

Chanel: Yay! So you can find Seth and I on Facebook, Instagram at WinOpposites Attach, give us a follow and we will be releasing episodes weekly soon.

Bren/Seth: Absolutely. Thank you guys. Thanks for tuning in to When Opposites Attach. See you next time. everybody say bye. Bye.

Chanel: Thank guys. Thanks for tuning in to When Office is Attached. See you next time. bye. Bye.