speaker-0: Welcome to Built Different Chicago, a podcast about how neighborhoods and communities get built, what makes them evolve, and what that means for all of us. I'm Stacy Young from Community Investment Corporation. Each episode we'll dig into one big question about community development. Does investment lead to gentrification? Why can't we excited to have Becca Goldstein join us?

speaker-1: And I'm Megan Hart from Lisp. One big question. we get affordable housing right.

speaker-2: Housing has become more expensive. Not only housing, food, healthcare, transportation, childcare, all of those costs are rising, but incomes are not.

speaker-1: Raul Raymondo

speaker-3: First thing you need to do to build wealth in a community is stop it from being sucked out.

speaker-1: My friend and the alderman Walter Burnett.

speaker-4: I used to say when Starbucks comes to the neighborhood, the neighborhood is pretty gentrified.

speaker-0: Are there other dynamics at play?

speaker-1: So what do you think, Stacey?

speaker-0: I called up my friend, Jeff Smith.

speaker-5: folks just think we need to build a hundred and twenty thousand or whatever units to fill this affordability gap. In the reality it's a bit more nuanced than that.

speaker-1: ⁓ did you see parachute developers coming into Pilson? Goose Island, West Loop, East Garfield Park, near North Side. I love Pilson.

speaker-3: Pullman area. Village La Vegita.

speaker-0: Megan, why did you choose that topic? Stacy. ⁓ that's funny. I thought you chose it because you know I can't even stand to say the word.

speaker-1: What's a Chicago stereotype that's actually true?

speaker-0: True. Put on your Chicago hat. Are you ready? Okay. Tavern your deep dish. Are you kidding? So how did it get to

speaker-2: Think so.

speaker-1: No, this is like so silly. Be like this. Built different Chicago. Where we try to make sense of what's working, what's not, and why it matters.

speaker-0: Built different Chicago.