Speaker 2: I'm Alex, he's Jim and this is the Charging Status podcast. How you doing Jim? Speaker 1: I'm alright Alex, how are you? Speaker 2: I'm alright as well. It's been a busy week. It's been a busy week. Speaker 1: That's been mental this week, hasn't it? Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. It's been crazy. Don't know what's going on. Speaker 1: It's just been a mad, mad week. I three car launches in two days this week. At the time this comes out, I'll already be back, but I'm going to Milan to see a new brand be unveiled. I think I'm literally going to Milan for about 20 hours to see a man pull a sheet off a car. But, you know, here's what it is. And looking at all the airport nonsense that's going on over in Italy, that might be quite interesting. Lots of strikes and issues of passport control and stuff. And then I've got like a weekend for my wife's birthday and stuff. I don't know, in the last week I've probably, I don't know, I've slept for about... 20 hours and literally worked for the rest of it so it's been an interesting one. Busy? Yeah, it's looking interesting for the next few weeks as well. But at the time this comes out you'll be on your way to China won't you or will you be in China? Speaker 2: the I'll be in China. Yeah, so I would have flown out on the Wednesday very late evening after having a family meal with with Graham and then Yeah, I'll be probably doing god knows what at some point. So, yeah Speaker 1: Can I teach you fluent Mandarin right now? There's hello, is Ni Hao. Then there's thank you, which is Xie Xie. Speaker 2: I've heard that before. Speaker 1: You can speak the language, you know? Yeah. This is yes. Alright, for those listening to this, that's two thumbs up in the air. Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice. Is that alright? There we go. I think I've got that. Speaker 1: There go. You your GCE now. Speaker 2: ⁓ dear. So yeah, I'm flying out with Cherry. You went with them in October, I think. Yeah. seeing all sorts of things, the Beijing Motor Show, which would be amazing. ⁓ And all sorts of different things. I'm sure the schedule would change by the time I get there. So I don't really know exactly what I'll be doing, but it should be quite interesting. Speaker 1: How long are you there for? Speaker 2: I from memory I think it's just under a week. So Wednesday to Tuesday I think. Speaker 1: Right, okay. Yeah. You'll love it. It would be a hell of an experience, but some of the EVs you'll see on the road over there will melt your brain. And I can only imagine what you're going to see at the Beijing Motor Show. It'd be absolutely amazing. did get, obviously we've had a conversation about this, but I did get an invitation to Beijing Motor Show from another manufacturer in China. I got the impression there were some strings attached. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not my idea, it? No. Speaker 1: I very politely told them to ⁓ Foxtrot Oscar, which I'm gutted about because I really want to go, but I don't want to go with strings attached. Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, that's honorable. Yeah. Speaker 1: have fun. Just be careful at the breakfast buffets and stuff. Speaker 2: ⁓ yeah, maybe your pork donut conversation blast. Speaker 1: Fork Donut was not exceptionally good. All the ducks blood tofu or the chicken feet and that sort of stuff. Speaker 2: I might find myself in McDonald's at some point. Sounds like a taste of home. Speaker 1: McDonald's was actually really good in China. Ian loves McDonald's as well, who you're going with. I do. He'll make sure you get a Big Mac into you. It was very good over there and insanely cheap. It's about two quid, I think, for a Big Mac meal. And it tasted nicer than ours. Speaker 2: ⁓ yeah, it's not really saying much, it? Speaker 1: No, no, not at all. No, not even slightly really. Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, yeah, it should be good. I'll make sure to post some stuff on Instagram if you follow me there. So get to see whatever I get to see. So it'd be good. Speaker 1: Awesome. Yeah. Go and follow Alex on Instagram because there'll be lots and lots of posts I would imagine, especially the day you're at the Beijing Motor Show. Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Should be good. Yeah. Speaker 1: What have you been driving? Speaker 2: Um, literally picked up this morning was the, uh, ginormous Hyundai IONIQ 9. Yeah. Um, and I've done 1200 miles of that in one week. Wow. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. Me and my brother, did a Land Rover. I posted on Instagram and I was a bit worried that people might thought I was invited to something, but no, it was just a thing that, um, me and my brother did. Speaker 1: No one would expect that Alex. Speaker 2: No, no. ⁓ Yeah. We did a whole day of driving one of the new defenders off-road in the middle of nowhere. It was just, ⁓ was incredible. And the guy that does the instruction ex-police officer really knew his stuff. he, ⁓ yeah, just incredible cars really at off-road driving. Just amazing. Yeah. It's a shame that no one really uses them for off-road in the general scheme of things, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, they get really stretched their legs doing the school run, they? Speaker 2: No, not particularly. ⁓ Well, the par holes at that moment. Another story. By the way... Speaker 1: Yeah. At an event the other day, just outside the event, Tish blew a tire out on her car. Speaker 2: on pot. no. On the pot. Sorry? On the Volkswagen up or the... ⁓ no. Speaker 1: Yeah, literally feet from the event. It's just hideous out there at the moment. Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, and before that had the Santa Fe, which is an equally big car. So. ⁓ Speaker 1: How did you get on with the iNIC 9? Speaker 2: I don't think anyone else on the road has ever seen a car like that because the amount of people that were looking back at the vehicle on the motorway, like turning their heads around to have a look. Yeah. I think it's quite an unusual sight on the roads really, because I've never seen one, but no, it's great car, a bit more efficient than I thought it would be. I was getting around three miles per kilowatt hour. Charges massively fast. It's great. I don't know if you knew, but I think you reviewed the seven seat version, but the six seat version. The seats in the middle, they can actually spin around like a van. Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had the six seat version of the EV9, but I the seven seat version of the Bionic 9. Speaker 2: ⁓ yes. ⁓ Speaker 1: And I much prefer the look of the EV9, like the exterior and everything. I just think it's a beautiful thing. But I think I, from memory, I think I found the Ionic 9 a bit more efficient than the EV9 as well. Yeah. I don't know if it's because it's not quite as square. Speaker 2: I think so, Speaker 1: And Hyundai, or like a big thing with their EVs is always like drag coefficient, drag coefficient, which is why like the IONIQ 6 looks the way it does. The maligned design of the IONIQ is actually brilliant for its drag coefficient. Speaker 2: Yeah. don't know if it's quite funny. It took me few days to work out what it was, but when you're driving on the motorway, I caught myself looking up at the sky, trying to listen for an aeroplane because there's two flaps on the front of the bonnet and when the, sorry, the front of the grill, when they open, they must let in such a massive amount of air that it actually sounds like it's an aeroplane going overhead. Speaker 1: ⁓ wow. Speaker 2: I'm convinced that's what it is. I couldn't verify it, but that must be what it is because this happens now and again. So yeah, weird. Speaker 1: Nice. Speaker 2: Yeah, what have you been driving? Speaker 1: Um, but God, why haven't I been driving last week? So I've got the, at the moment I've got the Xpeng G6 in review. Um, hmm. Is what I'm going to say on that. Yeah. I don't know when the video is coming out, but it's a six out of 10. I think. Yeah. Yeah. is a shame. Yeah. Cause I think. Speaker 2: Okay. That's a shame. Speaker 1: Xpeng is a brand that's capable of some pretty special things. Yeah. And I think they've tried hard to copy something else and have failed at most in most areas. ⁓ anyway, there's a video on that. If it is out, go and watch it. And if not, wait for it and then watch it, please. I've driven the new VW T-Rock. The Cherry Tigo 4, the Aeon V, which you've also driven this week, which is completely new brand to us here. If you don't know about Aeon, which we didn't until we got the invitations, or certainly I didn't, Alex probably did because he knows about everything Chinese. Speaker 2: They were at the Munich Motor Show, so I had to poke around those to have a look. Speaker 1: I was at the Munich Motor Show. Didn't see them. Yeah. they're part of GAC and GAC in China makes the Chinese market Toyotas and Hondas. So from a manufacturing point of view, you know, they've sort of said because they're working with Toyota and Honda, who obviously famed for their manufacturing, they have to have very, very high standards. My impressions of that again are in my video. I don't know what yours are. But I personally thought the exterior didn't look great. The interior did look great and was pretty great. But some software things and certainly a few things with the drive were just a bit off and feel like they need a tweak. But I sort of feel like it probably only needs a tweak. I think it's nearly a very good car. What do you think? Speaker 2: I thought the design was, it was, I thought it was, not bland. So it had some interesting, interesting things on it, made it look quite distinctive. ⁓ the interior I thought was, it felt a little bit out of date, like, cause there wasn't enough buttons in there. And I just weird how things, how things go. You may have, ⁓ at one point thought that a car with no buttons was really, really up to date. but it's now swung the other way for me a little bit where there's literally none in that car at all apart from the ones on the steering wheel from memory. ⁓ Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I thought at least it's got buttons on the steering wheel and like the aircon controls, I think stay in place the whole time. some of that stuff, can like forgive some of that stuff now. If you don't have to go into menus or you have to like in that Xpeng G6 at the moment, if you go into Apple CarPlay, you lose everything else. And then you have to go back to the home screen for CarPlay, then press the Xpeng button to get back to the original software. And then when you want to go back into carplay, you've got to go back in, you know, and all that kind of stuff's taking your eyes off the road. Speaker 2: taking a retention. which is dangerous. Yeah. I thought the build quality was good, like materials in there. The premium version had proper leather seats, which is quite unusual. Yeah, Speaker 1: leather like cow's bottom leather. But interestingly, I thought the pretend leather, ⁓ I thought that felt really good as well. Speaker 2: I actually didn't have time to look at the non leather version because I was filming the whole day. Speaker 1: It didn't feel like drastically different, which I think is a big plus. Also that premium one's got that lovely tray in the back of the passenger seat. Speaker 2: Yes. Ready now Bill. Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently they took some inspiration from the mechanism from the rear seat trays of a bent leaf for that. Yeah. Speaker 2: Oh, nice. Yeah, they're very sturdy. Yeah, the one thing it's got going for is the amount of space. It's massive inside. Just the amount of headroom you've got, the sunroof is really nice. The boot's not as big as it could be. And when you look at the surf, like the top level, but the underneath section is massive as well. So, but yeah, there was a bit of, some of it was a bit lacking to drive. Speaker 1: How many times did you spin the wheels? Speaker 2: About five times. Speaker 1: That was just getting out of the car park. Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the ride was good, but the ride quality, they did stress that they've done a lot of work to make it better suited for our roads. And I thought the ride suppleness was quite good, but yeah, it's got, it's little bit of work, but it's, it should be okay. But the one I'm looking forward to is that hatchback, the UT. Cause they had that, they had that there parked. I didn't see it. A golf sort of size car. Oh, okay. So I love a hatchback. They're just. Speaker 1: ⁓ yeah. How did I miss that? Was it parked somewhere? Not very obvious. No. Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it looks like a nice little car that one. Speaker 1: They've got people with pedigree like in the UK operation. um, yeah, yeah, I've, I've got high hopes for that. Yes. But a lot of the things I thought like, this is a software update that can correct this. Like the fact that the wheels are easy to spin. You know, that's something they can do with an over the air update, hopefully, you know, just a little bit of change to like the power delivery, the torque curve. Yeah. Speaker 2: all that smooth stuff. Speaker 1: But yeah, with the Xpeng, I feel like there's some physical changes that need to be made. know, suspension setup and stuff, stuff that I don't think can be corrected with software. And if it could, surely they would have corrected it by now. ⁓ Maybe the brake feel, maybe they could correct that with software. Speaker 2: Yeah Speaker 1: ⁓ Well, I've talked about the PV5, have I, on the last... Last or not? Speaker 2: I so. I think we haven't recorded for a while here. So I think you've had the five in that time. Speaker 1: had the PV5 as well and ⁓ my God, I absolutely adore the PV5 and it was so much better on real world range than I expected. ⁓ really? Yeah, because it's a big box. I was expecting it to struggle a bit and I've done a lot of motorway miles in it as well. So I was expecting to have problems on that front. ⁓ So I probably did 600 miles in that at least. ⁓ I think on full charge it was showing like 258 miles of range, something. Speaker 2: to the WRTP. Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's, but you never know do you? Because some of these cars, you, when you charge them, they just show the WLTP and some will show you a figure based on how it's been driven. Um, but I, I, I got the battery really low at one point. I got down to about 10 miles in it and it would have done 231 miles and I was at motorway speed. Speaker 2: That's excellent. Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was incredible and it was cold. So I had the heater on, you know, and I just thought that this is phenomenal. Obviously it didn't have a load in it and it only had me and obviously I'm very slim and athletic. So it didn't have a lot of weight to carry. Um, but, and I'd shaved my head that day. So few days growth makes a difference. Yeah. Apart from there, that bit well, and there and Speaker 2: That's saved. Speaker 1: Yeah, there. ⁓ So, yeah, I mean, I was just massively impressed with it. I loved the way it drives as well, but it had one big flaw and that was the Apple CarPlay. Speaker 2: ⁓ okay. Speaker 1: So on wireless connection, it was less than 50 % of the time that it would connect. And then sometimes it wouldn't connect at all and you sort of give up trying to connect it. And then after 15 minutes, suddenly CarPlay kicks in. And then on a wired connection, it would connect about 90 % of the time. But on Google Maps, just every so often, it would go completely like the GPS side of it would go totally haywire and it just suddenly doesn't know where you are and then it would correct itself and then it would go again and then it correct itself. ⁓ Speaker 2: bit strange. Speaker 1: Yeah. And ⁓ I sort of had a quick look online and it looks like other people might've had the same issue. Again, it's going to be a software thing, but I wonder if it's because, I don't know, plain conspiracy theorists, you know, it's an Android system. Maybe they're making life difficult for the filthy Apple users like us. Speaker 2: Maybe, but I'd imagine it's probably something to do with it's a brand new platform for Kio. And there's a simptieving issues, I think, with that. They've had their existing systems in play for ages. Yeah. Yeah. A really long time. So, yeah. Speaker 1: ⁓ Quite a nice system though. Speaker 2: It's really good. Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I don't like about the Xpeng G6. The wireless charging pads can't charge a big iPhone. Speaker 2: All right. Hmm. Was it his actual section not big enough or? Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1: I mean, come on. It's not big enough. I mean, like, that's not the biggest phone in the world, the big iPhone. I'm sure phones... Speaker 2: In China are bigger than that. Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get massive phones over there. Grumble grumble. Speaker 2: ⁓ right. I want to talk some vans if that's okay with you, because I'm not making it to the CV show next week, which I'm a bit gutted about. I've been every year since 2023. I really enjoy it. ⁓ last year was the Kia PV5 and that was about it really. This year, everyone seems to have pulled their socks up and there's so much stuff coming. There's the brand new KGM Musso. So they've launched a brand new combustion version there next week. Speaker 1: Please do. Speaker 2: The EV version is getting significantly cheaper, even though it hasn't even launched yet. It's below 40 grand. Renault are going to show off their latest range of electric vans in full this time. were there last year. They were there last time in like mock-up form. BYD are taking a ⁓ van version of the Dolphin as well, which is interesting. Speaker 1: concept almost. Speaker 2: So back in the day Vox used to have the Corsa van and the BT engineers would knock about in those, that's got a thousand litres of space and 350 miles of range. That could be really good. And I don't know if they're going to focus on vans as well. Not really much information on that. Speaker 1: They've got that, is it the shark, the pick up? Speaker 2: Yeah. BYD shark. Yeah, that's not, it might launch there. I'd imagine it probably would make sense, but they haven't specified if that's going to happen. there's a new Verizon van. ⁓ I can't remember the name of it, but it's a smaller van. So their existing van, the super van is quite big. ⁓ so this new van is already on sale in New Zealand and it's going to be launched next week. But the big news, ⁓ and also Ford are going to take the E. it called? The Explorer Cargo Van as well. I'm not sure if they're going to announce the new Transit City there. It's probably a little bit too soon for that. This is their new ⁓ Chinese built Transit Van with a very stripped back options list. A bit cheaper hopefully. The big news is Delivan. It's a new brand from ⁓ Cherry. Yeah, so Cherry are known for JQ, La Paz, a Moda as well. So this is the first foray into commercial vehicles, which I'm quite excited about and that should be quite good. No pictures, nothing, but they've Speaker 1: got quite a few coming apparently. know at the CV show they're going to their the concepts basically. Okay. But from what I understand there's going to be a van and maybe a tipper but there's definitely going to be a pickup at some point as well. I don't I just don't know what's going to be at the CV show but from what I understand they look at the UK van market as quite a big one because obviously we sell a lot of vans in the UK and they probably think if we can crack that nut we're on to a winner. I don't think they're going to be in production though until like 2027. Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like a long way of it, but it isn't really. Speaker 1: No, it's what? Yeah. Six months, eight months. Yeah. So, Interesting, no? Speaker 2: Yeah. And everything I've mentioned, apart from the Musso combustion, are all electric. So the SMMT keeps banging on about that the fan market, there's not enough EVs being sold. That's mainly because there haven't been many good options. The only really solid option at the moment is the Kia PV5. that is really good, but for a lot of people, isn't going to serve their needs because it isn't big enough or... Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: and Kia have got some other stuff coming soon. I'd imagine a lot of these manufacturers have looked at the van market and thought, well, there's some business to be had here. they've all got their act together, is awesome. Speaker 1: So it's amazing when you come out with something that's actually got some modern tech and is not 50 grand. Yeah. Like people actually will buy it. Yeah. And yet although the, the PV five is a bit limited. ⁓ certainly if you're in the trade and you can't fit sheet materials in it and all the rest of it, but we know they've got others coming in future, it's just showing that you can do it if you want to. And, ⁓ the amount of people that have sent me messages or commented on videos. Obviously the lease deals on those PV5 cargoes have been incredible and the amount of people that have sent me messages saying I've just signed up to lease on one, I've just leased one, I've just leased one, I've just leased one. It's been incredible and ⁓ someone said the other day that they were told that the 2026 I don't know what you call it, allocation, guess, for ⁓ PV5s has sold. So I think Kia are having to kind of get some more built or reserve more spaces in line. I don't know how it's done exactly. But I know someone at Kia told me a while ago that they had a target for the number of those they were going to sell in a year. And I think they did it in the first six weeks. Speaker 2: Fair play. That's awesome. Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, it's an almost faultless piece of kit. Yeah. And it's really sensible money. Speaker 2: Yeah. But when I published the cargo review, I December, I think, or January, December, whatever it was, I had loads of comments on it as well saying, ⁓ I've just bought one, just leased one, just check one out, this looks great. So yeah, it's obviously done quite well for them, which is really good news. Speaker 1: people don't realize how much a common or garden transit costs these days. It's very, very easy to spend 50 grand on a transit. people are always shocked by that. Like incredibly shocked by it. But what you're seeing is those kit as being cheaper than a used transit quite often. VW have sort of fought back a little bit. They've done some lease deals on the ⁓ ID buzz cargo. in the last sort of month. ⁓ And I guess they're going to have to now because best will in the world. No one's going to buy one over the key. Speaker 2: No, not unless you don't like... some people don't like the styling of the key which... Speaker 1: They don't, but is it worth 20 grand to No. No. That's what it comes down to. Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. That industry needed a shake up as we've talked about quite a few times on the podcast that the electric van market is a bit crap. Speaker 1: I'm really interested by that BYD though. That could be good. I hope they don't put rock hard suspension on it, that could be good. the Ford Explorer van as well. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, that'd be very good. The range on that dolphin, 347 miles and yeah. Yeah. Could do you pretty well for them. Speaker 1: Something like that would do me if it was the right price. It's my second, you know, my spare car, if you like. Obviously I've got that Tesla Model 3 at the moment, but I've only got that for another 11 months. And then I'm going to be without, and I need something. But yeah, if I get a Leasdale on one of those, I'd go up to 11 quid a month on that. Speaker 2: That's gotta go back at some point. ⁓ that's... Pushing about out there. Speaker 1: I'm actually really worried about that. What I'm going to do when that car goes back. So I haven't really got pots of money sitting around to get something else with. So we need a sponsor for this podcast. Speaker 2: We do. do. Those Renault vans are quite interesting because... What's that? Speaker 1: If you'd like to sponsor this podcast, please get in touch with Alex at Speaker 2: Alex at Greg's dot com. Alex at Steve face dot UK for genuine sausage role inquiries. Speaker 1: or jim at nottaguru.co.uk for genuine sponsorship inquiries and perhaps hair tips. Speaker 2: Very nice. Yeah, those Renault vans are quite interesting because they're going to be the first commercial vehicles to be 800 volt, which yeah, that should be, that should move things on a bit, bit quick, bit quicker really. Speaker 1: We don't know pricing on those yet, do we? Speaker 2: No, sadly not. But they look quite cool. Speaker 1: Yeah, just hopefully they don't get bit punchy with the pricing because they could be very, very good. Speaker 2: Yeah. And they've got the same software as the Renault 5. that's, I think for commercial vehicle owners, sorry, fleet people that have electric vehicles for the first time, they tend to be, as I said, electric vehicle owners or drivers for the first time and having that complicatedness that you can have sometimes. think the Google Maps integration with Renault software is next level really. that'd be really good for first time drivers. Speaker 1: very much. Speaker 2: Yeah. I was going to ask, you've done quite a few videos lately on leasing deals. How do you, well, more than usual, how do you whittle down the list of, do you just go on the website and look at all the deals and you sort of work out how, how do you whittle down which ones are actually going to be the best ones? Speaker 1: So I've been doing it for five and a half years, but I've done at least three a month. Yeah. So I'm probably quicker at it than most, but people, people often ask me this and they ask me about when I do those new car discounts as well on AutoTrader. Yeah. And there's no secret sauce. It's just like the more you do it, quicker you get, but like those new car deals videos. I probably spend six hours on Auto Trader before I film one of those. I'll start at like six in the morning. And if I'm filming by one o'clock, I'll be quite happy after taking my son to school briefly. ⁓ That videos, that one I do every month is usually my biggest video of the month. So it's worthwhile for me to do it. because that's always a big video, I'll sometimes get quite a decent sponsor on it. ⁓ it makes sense to do it. And the least deals videos, what I do on those is put in the filters for either the target that I'm going for in that video or just realistic type things. So some of them are quite formulaic. So I'll always do three months upfront, three year deals, 10,000 miles a year. I've changed that now. So I also put in two year deals because I think there's actually a lot of value in two year deals sometimes. both in terms of price and in terms of choice because the market's evolving so quickly. ⁓ But then there are others where I'll also stick in 18 month deals, low mileage deals, higher upfront, like nothing upfront ⁓ and look at those. But it's just time. Like it really is just time. ⁓ With the lease ones, I'm a lot quicker because I've been doing it for so long and I immediately know what's a good price and what's an average price and what's not. ⁓ Like yesterday's one, for example, there weren't bags of deals around. I think there were 2 million deals on leasing.com, which seems like a lot of deals. ⁓ But actually it's about a million less than they normally are. And that's simply because we're still at the tail end of Easter holiday periods. some of the companies advertising on there won't spend their money because they've got loads of people on holiday. Yeah. Where like next week it will be very much back to normal. So yeah, that was a really quick one because the deals really stood out. It was just obvious. But sometimes it takes me like two or three hours to do one of those. the research for one of those leasing videos. And then I've got to film it and fall over my words constantly. Then I've got to edit it and upload it. Speaker 2: Yeah, I watching the one yesterday, I thought, ⁓ how do you actually find these? So yeah, there you go. Nice. Yeah. Before we finish, what have you got coming up in the next few weeks? ⁓ yeah. ⁓ cool. Urban Cruiser. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've got the GDX five in a few weeks as well, which is really quite good. So. Yeah, I've got China and I've got JQ8 on Monday as well. I think we're doing so many do. I think we're doing some off-road stuff because that car's got a locking diff I believe. yeah? So yeah there's some off-road stuff we're doing so it'd be quite cool. Yeah. Well, that's it. Ready? ⁓ yeah, should be, should be busy a weeks, but yeah. Cool. Nice. good. Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. are doing some driving, which would be good. So are driving, I think six hours somewhere in a new La Paz model, I believe. think so. Yeah. There we go. Yeah, I don't understand that. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't watched my videos to be honest. on purpose, Yeah. Yeah, that might be a good thing to use that instead. Yeah, that's about it really. Just a random chat about some EVs, some vans and some different trips we're If you like this sort of content, please consider subscribing to the Charging Status podcast. It's sort of a labor of love that me and Jim do. We don't get anything for it, but we do love coming back every so often to talk about what we're doing. Where can people find you on the interwebs, Jim? They want to find out more about you. There's lots of content on your website, isn't there, with Graham doing lots of news for you? ⁓ Yep. Yeah, would be good. Yeah, my website is the interface.uk. There's some often news on there, just like you're just out of time to write anymore, which is a real shame. But the YouTube channel is the main thing, the interface cars, nearly on 10,000 subs. I'm so close. It's going really well. Yeah, it's going really well. What I'm focusing on right now is, is trying to focus on high volume cars because they'll naturally get more views. So I noticed some of the random cars I review, like the Genesis G80 doesn't get 700 because. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, that's what I'm trying to focus on for the next few months is some more high volume cars that people are actually buying. The one I reviewed the other week was the Igo X. Well, actually, I think it's the Igo Cross. When I looked up how to pronounce it. So yeah, which is I find really weird. Strange. Nobody knows. I had some help with that one. ⁓ thanks, mate. Yep. Awesome. Yeah, thank you for that. Definitely go and check that out. Published it a few days ago, so little hybrid hatchback. Not the most refined to drive because it's quite loud and quite moody, but it's a solid car and solid MPG. so it's going to be a good choice for a lot of people, I think. So yeah, I'll link that in the show notes. But to save the waffling, thank you so much for watching, listening. Please subscribe to the channel. Please subscribe to Jim's channel, my channel, and we'll see again in a few weeks.