speaker-0: Are they choking and like everyone is looking at them? And then all of a sudden like multiple people will g get up and like they're like patting her and then someone goes over and it's like, You need water and then someone's going to the counter and getting water and she's continuously hacking up something. And then I see her pull out an inhaler and I'm like, ⁓ my god, is this asthma? What's going on? A really weird environment to be getting your food in. speaker-1: Hi, welcome back, catching up with Liz. speaker-0: Welcome back to another episode of We Know What We're Doing with Liz and Evie. My week, my week. My week was good. It was super, you know, like all my other weeks. They all revolve around work, as do all of our lives. But ⁓ it was good. It was good. It was it was busy. I didn't get a lot get didn't have a lot of extra time for like the things that I wanted to do. I feel like it's Ever this is how it works in my life, I feel like. Every other week is extremely like I put all my stuff aside and I do work stuff and I make sure that's the priority of my week. And then every other week is very much like I find little pockets of time for like this podcast or like painting or like hobbies as well. So last week very much felt like a full only work mattered priority wise. ⁓ which is which is good. speaker-1: But do you like that, the f the flip flop, or would you like a little bit more synchronicity between speaker-0: Think I think that works for me. I think it's like like I can only really focus on so much at one time. And I feel like if I can kind of front load one week with more work and the following week has like a couple hours each day that I can play with and feel relaxed about. If it works out, that's great. If but then if I get two weeks where it's like really work-centric, I get very like, ⁓ what's going Yeah. But it's obviously up to me to to make that happen, so I just adjust. But but yeah speaker-1: You need your creative outlet. Of course. You can do that, like front load a week and then it's not like you're ignoring or letting things slide the following week. It's like it's already done. So the worry isn't in my head. And I'm like, that is nice. I like that. speaker-0: Yeah. Right. And that's the goal for sure. I think the past couple weeks we've been just reworking some stuff for a client, so it's been a little harder to like know exactly what my tasks are for that week or month per se because of that. So that's just up in the air, but it's not it's not really that disruptive. It's just more so like here what I wish I could do is really, really like fully engage with what's in front of me at any given moment and not think about it for longer than I need to think about it. Like I feel like when there's work stuff, a lot of my work tasks don't take up most of my day. But I do spend a lot of time thinking about those tasks before actually doing them. And it would be so much easier and much better use of my time if I was really attacking everything while thinking about it. It's like I kind of I feel like I do tasks twice in my head all the time. And so I would love to change that. But but this weekend I had a lot of fun. ⁓ yesterday Connor and I went to a rave that was very close to where we live, like literally 15 minutes away or ten minutes away. speaker-1: Yeah, that makes sense. So Log off the When you say rave, like DJ sets. speaker-0: So it was like an all day event at this ⁓ restaurant. And I mean it's not really a restaurant, it's like a hotel, restaurant, whatever. It's a venue. There was an all day they had like eight or nine DJs. ⁓ and they were just playing throughout the day and you bought tickets, you could just you know, they had like ⁓ stalls of vendors and things like that and Yeah, it was like supposed to be speaker-1: That's fine. speaker-0: this like crazy thing, but it really it was pretty chill in my opinion. It was but the DJs were good and we got like a table so I didn't have to stand the whole time. Yeah. It was a good vibe. But it was for a long time just like a hundred percent. I I was like, we're getting a table. What are we rich? And then I was like, ⁓ my God. If not for this table, I would have been a real cranky bitch much sooner. And I would have been like, I'll see you with the car. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ that's fantastic. thirty without telling me you're thirty. speaker-0: But it was funny, like looking back on like yesterday I was like, is it just gonna be me and like a bunch of bros? And it was a bunch of bros. But then I was like, okay, I forgot. I can hang with bros. I'm doing this. And then today I'm like, did I like revert to like Yes. I'm like, did I like just like placate all these men and just like stoop to their level? Like, did I just become like, you know speaker-1: A bro? What the answer probably, but also in your mind, you were probably like, I'm just being a bro right now. And like it was like a little bit speaker-0: It allowed me right. It allowed me to have a good time. Like today I'm like, ugh, that wasn't really me. That was like that was just like the Evie who has to like I don't even know. I just reminded me of like college Evie who would like I don't even know. Put on a hat. I don't know. speaker-1: Such a rough. Yeah, I I get what you're saying. We've all we've all been there. speaker-0: But that's that was my situation. You know what? I had fun. speaker-1: If I'm ever in that situation and I don't do that, then I'm not A having a good time, B I'm not socializing at all. So you might play into the part a little bit. A little bit. speaker-0: You know, we gotta do what you gotta do. It's not like I didn't have fun, but I was like Right. Were is that really how I wanna go through life right now? Not really. No. It was super fun. might cut this out, but like I did do shrooms and it was interesting. Same and I'd ⁓ an acquaintance like had like, you know, wheat gummies, but they were mushroom gummies. Uh-huh. And he was like, Do you want one? and I was like, No. And then speaker-1: So curious. speaker-0: He gave to someone else who was like asking a lot of questions and the questions I was like, Okay, interesting. This doesn't sound like a lot. So I was like, you know what? Bucket. And I had one. It was only five milligrams, which I think is a very small amount, like a super, super microdose. And I like experienced this like you know, they say like you get a little nauseous and then you get the high. And I experienced that nausea a little bit and I ate some chicken fingers and then I felt great. And then I really did just like have such a cool high. Like it was it was like a really enjoyable experience, especially at this like rape. I was very much like, this is making this experience super bearable. Like I was totally like, I don't need to talk. I don't need anyone to talk to me. I'm really chill and I like it. But the high was like a very interesting it was like sensational. Like and I we watched like we put movies on. We put the speaker-1: And you're not like waiting to leave. speaker-0: I don't if you saw a Snapchat, but we put like the blow up bed in the living room. It was so cute. And we put on movies and stuff. Cause we got home at like eight thirty 'cause we both were like Yeah, we were like, We're we're good on this. We can go home. And ⁓ didn't really drink that much either. Like that's what I like about this stuff too. It's like it really stops you from wanting to like be like speaker-1: Perfect. You need to feel better the next day too. That's great. speaker-0: Totally. No hangover. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ but like w the movie I like cried a little at this movie and like the sensation of crying was like it wasn't it was like cathartic. It was super like speaker-1: That's r like sounds very appealing. No it speaker-0: was really nice, like and it's weird because when people say the nauseous stuff, I'm like, Yeah, never gonna be me. I don't why would I do that? Why would I make myself nauseous? But like it it really didn't seem it didn't feel bad. I did feel like kind of sick. But like it wasn't I don't know. It didn't bother me very much. speaker-1: That's good to know. Interesting. What movie did you watch? speaker-0: I would do it again. ⁓ we watched a couple of things, but the one I watched we watched Merv. It was like a chick flick on Amazon with Zoe De Chanel and the guy who's in Daredevil, he's like British. it's about like them cologning a dog after a breakup and then obviously them getting back together. But like they had like such real relationships problems that I was like It was sweet. Anyway, that was my weekend and we can cut all that, but but ⁓ it was fun. It was yeah. speaker-1: That is fun. So a rave, a movie night, blow up mattress in the living room. Blow up a fun time. Like you set up ⁓ your space to be like cozy and sweet. It's really nice until like halfway through the next day and you're like, get everything out now. Like speaker-0: Mattress and the lid. Literally. Literally. It's it's g yeah. speaker-1: Like I need I need my space back. It's almost like like Christmas decorations when they're up too long. Yeah. And then like once like for me it's always after New Year's, but once that hits, I'm like everything needs to go. I need like space and I don't need it like becomes clutter. And I'm saying this as I love Christmas and I love Christmas decorating. But it's like that same feeling. Yeah. speaker-0: get that. I always like to keep the Christmas stuff up, but like it always feels amazing when it's gone. speaker-1: Exactly. Sad boy. Well, that's exactly how it should be. Like it feels amazing when you put it up. You enjoy it for however long you personally like to leave it up for. I'm not a hater if you want to do it early. And then you take it down when you are done with it. And that's that. speaker-0: And that's that. On this segment of Holiday Hot Takes. speaker-1: But yeah, the same feeling. Yeah, not a hater if you want to put your Christmas stuff up in October. Whatever. I don't care. Even then I don't want to care. Do whatever you want. speaker-0: As long as it's down by New Year's. Do whatever you want. speaker-1: Good. I literally was just saying to Andrew, I'm like, I don't think I left the house since Friday. And it's Sunday night right now. And that is weird. It's been just like rainy and dreary the past two days here. And well, Friday actually was really nice. But we didn't really get to go out and about. It was like really it was nice weather wasn't too hot. ⁓ just did some speaker-0: Wow. speaker-1: like yard work we had to get done. Mm-hmm. But Saturday and Sunday, rainy, dreary. And I'm like, what day is it? Also, Rio, I don't know what's going on. He's been having like trouble. He's just like been waking up at least like he'll you know, stir a little bit and we'll go in and see them when he falls back asleep. But then like he'll wake up once, whether it's like twelve thirty, one thirty or two thirty, and like inconsolable for a while. And it's been like almost speaker-0: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: Maybe not quite a week. It always feels like longer when he's but like that's also throwing us off. So we're both like tired and then his naps, like he's not going down easily for his naps. So it's just like the past two days. We've been in the house, it's been raining and dreary and like he either is like overtired and not sleeping, we're trying to put him down for so long, or just like wants to be held the majority of the day. Which is fine. I'm like that's you know, I'm happy to do it. I think he's about to crawl and that's like apparently normal. But ⁓ also I think he's feeling maybe cooped up a little bit because he also hasn't been out of the house. And we at least go for like a walk every day or get outside a lot every day if we're not going anywhere. But obviously we haven't, and I think like he also maybe has been feeling that. So that's been my two days. Also, I had a book that I was reading. It's the sixth book of the Boys of Tomin series, which like spoilers, maybe. No guarantee that there won't be spoilers. again, this like cute, cheesy series I'm reading, except like there's deep stuff in there. You're like reading, you're like, I don't this is like dark, dark, dark, dark. And this book that I just read about Seth Couple. It like starts when they're both like kids and then it goes up until current events. So the f these it's like two people's stories are split up into two people's books. So the one I just read, it doesn't even like it's a huge book. There's so much to it. And you're learning about like, ⁓ my God, this is why this character is this way. Because of this like dark, dark trauma. But anyway, I'm like trying to like just get through it because I want to get to current events. It doesn't even end at current events, which is so annoying. It's such a big book. So you're like reading just to finish it, not even like to know what happens, but just to like catch yourself up. But then there's not even the seventh book isn't even announced yet. Which is so in my head I was like, this is like stupid that I'm like locked into this book because whatever. It's like a cheesy romance book. But it's dreary out. There's like really dark subject material that's like in my head that I don't really want this to be in my head, especially because I'm like just need to finish it. So I'm like absorbing it so quickly. So then I have like that weird feeling. And then also Like I like just like was like, all right, today I'm just gonna like hunker down, get this book done so I can get it out of my head. And I don't know if you can relate to that feeling, but that's speaker-0: No, as you're saying that I'm like chomping at the bit to be like, yeah, this is like one of my like least favorite feelings of reading a book. That's actually like why I haven't read a book like this or like I went through a big phase of reading like trashy romance, like whatever. There's so there's a huge like surge in them since book talk, I think. Anyway, but yeah, so often when you're like in someone's story, like you know what you want. From this book and you know what it's gonna give you. Like there's certain parts of tropes that I love that I like I don't care about the others. And like some of them, like some of these books are not well edited. So you're like, okay, this huge chunk shouldn't be here, but now I but I gotta get through it. I gotta get through it because and it's like that sank cost fallacy too. You're like, okay, I'm reading this book. I need to finish this book. I like I've already come this far. Let's speaker-1: Exactly. And like yes categories. Like they're cheesy, but it's cute, whatever. Exactly. But like I know that it's not like particularly ⁓ intellectually stimulating, but then also like it's like leaving you with this like dark feeling. speaker-0: And then it is satisfying at some point. I love it still. It's like Yeah. Yes. I d I know exactly what you're talking about. I actually speaker-1: It's raining now and there's no sun and I'm like, ⁓ I just need to finish this speaker-0: Right. And like some of that there's like something to that like dark theme that some of these books pull on to like bring you to this weird place. It's like they're using it as like some kind of like what is the term mechanism. Like they use like in a mechanis as a mechanism for their plot, but really their plot never needed that dark theme or like they could have done it in a way that actually like built the characters up. speaker-1: Emotion. speaker-0: But somehow it's not doing that. Like I don't know. Sometimes I Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I find that frustrating, but I also I can't stop. Like that feeling is consuming hundred percent. speaker-1: So like completely happening. It's awful. Like it's for how long this certain thing is happening. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Maybe not, I shouldn't say completely unrealistic, but like sure. It's like speaker-0: Like it might not add to the story for how long. speaker-1: How does no one find out about this by now? Like it's been years and like every night? Like I anyway. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ yeah, I know that feeling. speaker-1: But yeah, and then I'm like up, like just like making circles around the house, holding Rhea, like thinking about this like awful thing that happened. Poor girl. speaker-0: No, that's I I and this is why I watch Friends on Repeat before I go to bed, like literally for some levity. I find that's like so helpful. But like as a sixteen year old, I remember like gravitating toward books of like kids in foster care who like have no love in their lives and then meet like their high school boyfriend who saves them. Like I just remember such a toxic, toxic plot. And for literally all these books. Yeah. speaker-1: And I feel like I'm like a sixteen year old reading them, but like there's just something about like again, you I wanted to catch up to current events because the previous book ended at such a like a kind of a cliffhanger. So I'm like trying to catch up to that point. It doesn't even come close to where that point is. It's just like anyway. Will I continue to read every book in this series? Yeah. They're like fun to read and they're funny. There's good banter, they're all Irish, but anyway. speaker-0: They get you. Yeah. speaker-1: So that was my weekend. I'm looking forward to it being nice this week it's supposed to be. So definitely get outside. I gotta get back into my workout routine. speaker-0: Okay. Same. On the weeks where work takes over, I really fall out of the workout routine. And that's ⁓ speaker-1: It messes with you. I miss it. Anyway. On a brighter note, I have a funny quiz for you. A funny speaker-0: It does, it does. Yeah. Yes, yay. I'm so exciting. I'm so excited. speaker-1: Okay. I'm gonna test your vocabulary. ⁓ well, so would you describe yourself as more millennial or more Gen Z? More millennial. Kind of like on the verge. More millennial. Okay. speaker-0: What's the name of this quiz? I'm so interested. Think so. I think because of my siblings' influence I'm more millennial, you know what I mean? speaker-1: I agree. ⁓ okay, so I'm gonna test you on some Gen Z slang. ⁓ sh Let's see what you know. Granted, you also have been off TikTok for a while now. So we'll see. Okay, are you ready? speaker-0: Shit. That's very true. I ⁓ yeah. speaker-1: Number one I don't even know this one. And I'm younger than you. Nice. Okay, what does ratioed mean? ⁓ speaker-0: ⁓ fuck. I know this one. Okay. So ratioed is like when if you posted a tweet and you got like five likes, but someone posted a comment that absolutely got your ass and they get three hundred likes on the comment. So it's like if someone's comment does better than your p original post, you've been ratioed. Is am I right? speaker-1: That's right. When the number of replies on a bad tweet outweighs the number of likes and retweets. So could work. Okay. Next ⁓ that ⁓ I'm not surprised. Like I'm like surprised by that. I'm like, why am I surprised by that? Of course. speaker-0: Got ⁓ Thank you. It's all thanks to Connor, really. Star literally keeps me up to date. It's it's rough. speaker-1: Has Connor ever ratioed anyone? speaker-0: Probably. Yeah. Or been ratioed. I don't know. No, he probably has ratio. Probably. Okay. speaker-1: Should not be. Give him more credit, he's doing the ratioing. You're right. speaker-0: You're right. You've never let anyone get away with that. speaker-1: What does O O ⁓ F stand for? speaker-0: O O ⁓ F speaker-1: Would you like multiple choice? speaker-0: Yeah, I would like multiple choice. speaker-1: Okay. A only one main friend. B one of my fans. C one of my followers. speaker-0: Interesting. I'm gonna go one of my followers. speaker-1: And you are correct. Good job, good job. speaker-0: Thank you. I'm gonna add some sound effects here. speaker-1: Yeah, lit the sound effects in the last one. Good of God. Okay, next. What does drip mean? speaker-0: It was a swing. Ooh, drip is like looking real real fly. speaker-1: A stylish outfit. Ding ding ding. It is not a problem with the plumbing as often it describes. speaker-0: Did you make this quiz yourself? speaker-1: No. I think I'm doing the most millennial thing ever and it's on BuzzFeed. ⁓ Yeah. So like what is the word? It's a little bit chooggy that Buzzfeed is creating a quiz on Gen Z slang. Hell yeah. ⁓ some of these are stupid, I'm not gonna ask. Okay. What does simp mean? speaker-0: Good, that was my hope. Hell yeah. Simp is someone who is like whipped essentially. They're they're someone who who like what is it supposed to be? Like I'm a simp for you. I think speaker-1: I can't use it in a sentence, but the definition provided for me by this BuzzFeed quiz is it's used to refer to someone who goes above above and beyond for someone they like. speaker-0: Yeah. I in my in the way I see it, if someone calls someone else a simp, they're being stupid for calling them that because they're most likely the simp is just trying to be nice. Yeah. So I think simp is something that like an asshole would use to describe someone else. speaker-1: It's just trying to be a nice partner. Correct. I agree. ⁓ okay, I have one two more for you. You got a nice round of applause. This one I know you'll know. What does camp mean? speaker-0: What do I get if I win? Camp. Something is campy. ⁓ yeah. This is I feel like camp I had a hard time defining back when the Met Gallow theme was camp. And I don't really know how to describe it. I wanna say it's like in a creative flow state. That's kind of how I would like think of camp. Camp to me feels like ⁓ once over the top, but also it could be super simple in how it understands something. I think camp is speaker-1: Describe it for me. Yep. Yeah. ⁓ agree. Like an exaggerated way of describing something simple. The definition here, I think, kind of sums it up well. It says it's used to refer to something that is ironically stylish, like Crocs. speaker-0: Maybe. What is the definition? ⁓ interesting. Ironically. speaker-1: At least that makes sense. speaker-0: That does make sense. But at the same time is considered stylish if it's used in the right setting in a way. Like Camp for the Met Gala ironically stylish. Like I wonder what they would say to that. They meaning I guess Anna Went. speaker-1: I don't know if anyone showed up in Crocs. speaker-0: That's right, Cala, but anyway. Camp. Okay. speaker-1: Okay. This one's silly. What does big yikes mean? speaker-0: Big yikes. I feel like that means a swing and a miss. Like big yikes, meaning like more than one yikes. speaker-1: Kind of. When when a situation is extremely embarrassing and unf and unfortunate for you or someone else. speaker-0: Big yikes. It's like a way to is there a correct way to deliver that? speaker-1: If someone actually did wear crocs to the Met Ga Net Gala. That's big yikes. speaker-0: Yikes, big yikes. Even if camp, big yikes. speaker-1: Okay. I think this is my last one. What does 'cause I have never heard this before. What does I'm baby mean? speaker-0: ⁓ wow yeah. I'm baby. I know baby girl, I don't know baby. Let's get a definition on that. Okay. A speaker-1: Baby girl, let's Okay, I'll give you some multiple choice. A used by teenagers to refer to themselves as separate from adults, B used to refer to people who still unironically enjoy music from the two thousands, or C used to prove innocence in a harmless argument. speaker-0: Interesting. I'm gonna go see. speaker-1: And you are correct. speaker-0: 'Cause that's the only thing that makes weird sense. But like like what are the options here, BuzzFeed? What do you mean unironically like s the songs from the two thousands? They're great. I was just listening to them the other day. speaker-1: ⁓ they had to throw unironically in there. Just likes the you you can just say likes the song from the two hostages. And I have to be ironic or not. speaker-0: Like seriously. No. Way to offend a generation. ⁓ also Okay. I'm baby. So it's is that is this essentially the same as saying like, I'm just a girl? You know what I mean? speaker-1: Songs and the two. Kind of. Yeah. Saying I maybe isn't 'cause you what? The boys needed one. Easy way out in the middle of a harmless argument when you want to justify your fault by pretending that you didn't know during harmless arguments only. speaker-0: I'm literally just speaker-1: Yeah. It's like almost as if it's like a cop out. You say something and you're like, I didn't mean to say that I'm baby. speaker-0: Okay. I I think your delivery right there was really good. ⁓ I was about to say I want to hear that in a conversation, but you just killed it. speaker-1: I hope so. Unless I completely crush it. If it'll crush it, don't worry, it's fine, I'm be I'm just BB. speaker-0: Just baby. speaker-1: ⁓ what does flop era mean? Is my last one. speaker-0: Flop era, I mean, you're just losing. You're just again, you're just a lot of misses. You're just not winning. You're not really succeeding. Really? Yeah. speaker-1: Thing. Nikes all around. It's when everything in someone's life is going wrong for an extended period of time. That's exactly right. ⁓ speaker-0: It's like the ⁓ yeah you were saying I completely missed big yikes. you're responding to me. speaker-1: No no no no No, that's the what the definition is. We're You were not in your flop era for that answer. You were correct. Thank you. speaker-0: ⁓ I thought you were using the words against me and I like, Okay speaker-1: No, no, no, it's using the words to justify your answer. Okay. Okay. All right. Good job. That concludes my quiz. speaker-0: ⁓ Thank you. That was fun. I like a quiz. Should we do a BuzzFeed quiz a ⁓ Should we do a BuzzFeed quiz every time? Or no? speaker-1: Definitely not. Definitely not. Definitely. ⁓ speaker-0: Dear listeners. We're trying to figure out where we're driving this train. And I have a lot of segment well, I have a couple of segment ideas. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Okay. Okay, let's hear it. All new to me. So So you'll get my genuine reaction each time. ⁓ speaker-0: I'm super excited to share. I went outside after I texted Liz like hey, we doing this still. I went outside and I took my book that I'm kind of using to like inspire me, like Streams to Oceans. speaker-1: Evie's so much better than me. I'm reading Voice of Time Street. ⁓ speaker-0: I just my brain I let's like to be clear, I went through like a solid year and a half period where I only read books like that. And I'm like I'm I'm detoxing right now. I'm speaker-1: Trying not to like scroll on my phone whenever I'm feeding Rita r rito Rio. So I'm trying to Rito ⁓ speaker-0: We should make code names for our kids. ⁓ yeah, we're he speaker-1: Dorito. From now henceforth, my son's burrito. Bacco cheese. speaker-0: Also editing out last names. We don't need last names. Apparently we need security. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, no, we don't need that. ⁓ no. Who's coming for me? speaker-0: I don't know. But no, but like don't like if if I I I had the urge to read another like I forget what it was that that I was like, I wanna go find a book with this specific trope. Like that's where I get the urge from. And and then like I go to do that and I like it I just can't get into it right now. So that's just where I'm at. If I could get into it, that's all I would have done today is just sit there and and do that. But I want speaker-1: Nice about the the world I'm in because it's so easy to get into the book. You don't have to have that like, ⁓ new characters, new world. You're just you're already there. Very easy to breeze through them. speaker-0: Perfect. Which I love. and also I don't have a Kindle right now. So whenever I read Kindle books, it's on my phone. And I'm trying not to be on my phone. So that's also why I'm not reading these books. And I am gonna buy a Kindle like tomorrow, I decided. But anyway, and I've been trying to like go outside without my phone and just like bring I bring this is still new. I'm I'm talking like I do this all the time. I did this for thirty minutes today for the first time in a while. speaker-1: Okay. speaker-0: Brought a notebook, brought a book that's like nonfiction, and it's like basically a bunch of journal entries from Jedediah Jenkins, who I really do like the way his like brain works and the way he writes. So anyway, I would like read a couple paragraphs and then a thought would pop into my head and I would just write down the thought. And it's so nice to do that because there's like no pressure. I'm not like trying to read this book. I'm just like using it as a jumping off point for my own journaling. And it's like that's how I like to journal these days. It's super Fun. But anyway. There's zero pressure. Zero pressure to read. Totally. And I speaker-1: Really nice. You're preferred on myself. Like that, you're just like that's perfect. speaker-0: Yeah. Like I literally wrote down some sentences like, We need to drive this train somewhere. That's number one. ⁓ I'm still getting to know myself because he just wrote like a couple of paragraphs about not knowing oneself. Whatever. Anyway, some segment ideas. First one, which we kind of already did a couple of times, like just giving our reviews on something, but we could like decide what we're gonna give our review on and give a ten minute review on a show that we both watched or something. Like we watched did you watch off campus? Hell yeah. So good. ⁓ like we could just give our review on that or something. Come up with like a star system or like a five stars or whatever. We could do that. Not hard. speaker-1: Not hard. I like it. speaker-0: Yeah, simple. Mm-hmm. And then I had an idea that like we could do like a one of us per episode, not both of us, would just like ask one kind of like deeper question. Like, what was an ⁓ what was an idea I had? ⁓ I had an idea of like when you're feeling down these days, what are you doing to like change that? I don't know. Could just kinda like, you know, or or but that's only like a segment if we were feeling it, 'cause I wouldn't want to like speaker-1: Mm. speaker-0: force that. You know what I mean? Yes. ⁓ but it would be up to like someone to like come up with a question and then facilitate that a little bit. ⁓ I had another idea. Maybe it was on the other page. ⁓ I thought maybe we could put our email out there and just like ask listeners, anyone who's listening, ⁓ to send us an email. speaker-1: I know what you mean. Mm-hmm. speaker-0: of like topic ideas or a question or anything really. ⁓ no. And we could have a little like listener response section. And like they w it would kind of inform us on where to go with it because, you know, just send us an email. Send us a thought. speaker-1: I like that a lot. That's a nice one. Yeah, just a thought on a ⁓ something we've talked about, or even like on my birth story or something whatever we've talked about previously that would be nice to share. speaker-0: A little letter to the editor. That could be fun. Yeah, you speaker-1: That'd be nice. You should share our email regardless. Great. Let's do that. It is catching up with Lizenevy at gmail.com. speaker-0: I agree. What's our email is? Yes it is. I think I was trying to come up with segment ideas and then I was like, Well, what don't we want to talk about on this podcast? We've we've edited a few we obviously could cut this or whatever, yeah. But it's worth our time probably to like talk through whether now or at a different point, like what we don't wanna what what's coming up that we are like I mean, I've been in the edit a little bit more and ⁓ but religion, family and growing up. speaker-1: That's anything you'd like? Yeah. On my list. Great. speaker-0: Which I feel and I wanted to like say that because obviously we have said that before, but like I think that's where like my default falls back to when we're like, what should we talk about? And then I kinda like I don't know, I inform what we talk about with my background. And I kind of just don't want to do that, even if it comes up naturally. I'm almost like I think it like creatively, I think that's part of like figuring out where we want to end up. Yeah. Yeah. It's like creatively, let's make sure we don't fall back on any buffers. Because it's we're gonna we're gonna get bored. We're gonna and I've already had that feeling with the newsletter I used to write where it's like I really was like so bored with myself because I was really talking about myself. Like it's almost like maybe we do a segment of like, I don't even know. Like let's let's just like learn something or like get into something we don't know about. I don't know, Liz. Don't know. But like I speaker-1: think yeah, like something I something to help us go to try. I I mean it's like almost like doing things for the podcast to talk about, which is fine. Yeah. But like okay, what like cooking something new or gardening or like things that I'm like trying and discovering. speaker-0: Do you find that you're doing a lot of mom stuff for the first time still? Or do you feel like you kind of know everything about the stage you're in? speaker-1: I'm an expert in mom stuff. No. no, I had to look up today. So Rio has been like speaker-0: We could call it beginner's circle, like winner's circle, but beginners. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, I like that. Perfect game. Write that down. speaker-0: I wrote it down. Perfect beginner circle. sorry, Rio eating something. speaker-1: Big enough. No, I don't know what I'm doing with him eating. But like he's eating food now. But I was like, what so at four months it was like okay, he was like tasting foods and like I gave him some puree's. Now he's actually like sitting in this high chair and I'll give him like little pieces of whatever, literally whatever we're eating. And he like chews it. He doesn't have teeth, but it's very cute. He like it's very sweet. That's crazy. He like does a really good job. speaker-0: ⁓ Yeah. He doesn't have teeth. speaker-1: ⁓ Like I was like, okay, but also you have to like introduce allergens early on, but then make sure like they don't have a reaction. So you want to give them the same thing for like three to five days, make sure there's no reaction before you mix it. So I was so hesitant to give him anything. And then finally I just said, You know what? Like like my dad made eggs on Easter and I don't I didn't know what was in it. But I just gave him some. And eggs are definitely an allergen. So speaker-0: Yeah. Here you go, bud. Good luck. speaker-1: You want to make sure that there's just no reaction. ⁓ but then I asked my dad what was in it. He said he put like normal like spices and flavorings, but then ⁓ he said he put yogurt in it as well, which also is an allergen. But it was cooked, so I feel like ⁓ and he's had yogurt before. Yeah. But anyway, so now I give him eggs and then he's had avocado by itself. So like I'll make myself eggs and chicken sausage I give him and avocado, and like he eats pieces of that. And then like for lunch, we do protein pasta a lot with turkey and like ground turkey and tomato like a bolonnaise, but with tur ground turkey. So that's like something we meal prep a lot. It's so it's like easy, it's good, delish. ⁓ so I was like giving him some of that. And then I'm like, okay, he's like eating this now, like he's like taking bites, but what speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Like is this his primary nutri like what where is his nutrition coming from? So just a simple Google. you know, gave us the answer. And ⁓ he's basically like you're introducing foods. It's more about introducing textures and flavors and allergens. ⁓ and he's like starting to explore that way, but his primary nutrition is still either breast milk or formula, depending on what you give your baby. And then from nine to twelve months, it's like a little bit more fifty fifty in the nutrition. Mm-hmm. Like the milk versus food. And then after twelve months it's primarily food. Interesting. So that's interesting. But it's also I'm like, ⁓ my God, I'm gonna have to feed you for a free forever. Yeah, it's an overwhelming thought. speaker-0: Yeah. I yep. speaker-1: And then you're like people do this and it's ⁓ having a baby is also an overwhelming thought. But like I have to feed you three times a day. speaker-0: Yeah. Literally. It's already exhausting to feed myself three times a day. speaker-1: That's exactly it. Like I don't I like I have to worry about more than just me for food. Yeah. And right now it's easy because whenever I eat, I just give him some. But like the he has to have his own schedule and food. Which anyway, it's an overwhelming thought, but it'll be fine once we start doing it. speaker-0: Hi Nina. ⁓ guess you opened the door to my office. Good for you. ⁓ everyone I know who has a kid who's like eating whole foods, they're all like, I don't know how he's alive because he won't eat what I put in front of him. You know what I mean? Like I think Noah I don't know what Noah's eating, but Em's always like, Whatever he wants to eat, I give him because he never wants to eat anything. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ no. speaker-0: And like, you know, you've babysat kids a bunch of your life. Sometimes it's like mac and cheese and chicken and ugs. speaker-1: I know, it's at the kid food. Yeah. Someone's hoping that's not what we have to revert to, but I think that's what every parent hopes. speaker-0: It's the Kid Food. Right. And like you'll pro you'll have wins. You'll win and you'll Of course. You'll lose. You'll lose. speaker-1: Yeah. You win, you lose. You flipped and he flopped. Do you have that from? speaker-0: Okay, should we Wait, what? The flip we flipped and we flopped? speaker-1: No he hipped and he hopped. speaker-0: ⁓ speaker-1: That ring bell. speaker-0: He hipped and he hug. speaker-1: Beans. Beans was a good frog. speaker-0: ⁓ Cheaper Brother doesn't. When in doubt, Liz is quoting Cheaper Brother doesn't. He hipped and he hopped. I did not speaker-1: Always great. Hip hop. I think I think that's right. I might be totally wrong. speaker-0: What well I believe you. I would trust your take on that movie over anyone's. That's something I would watch. You know what I wanted to do today too? Like we watched a couple we watched a movie. I watched Divergent today. Which like I have been wanting to watch because I've been getting the the edits, you know. I've seen like the random moments from the movie, like over the course of the last six months. But never did I see Theo James and Shailen Woodley kiss. And I was like, I don't remember them even kissing. So then I really I've been wanting to watch this movie. I rented it. speaker-1: ⁓ great. speaker-0: That's how much I wanted to watch it. speaker-1: What? There's two more you could watch. speaker-0: Which is exciting. And you know what? I probably will. Probably will watch. And that movie is loaded. Also, Hans Zimmer was like involved in the music Yes. Which I'm like I in my head this movie flopped, but I guess it didn't. speaker-1: No, rewatching it, you're like, ⁓ this is good. And also like pretty accurate to the book. As I was watching, I haven't read the books in years. speaker-0: Yeah, no it is. And like I just I remember not loving like the third book very much or even like the second. I think Yeah. speaker-1: Why because big spoiler, but these have been out for years. She dies at the end and then it just like flips to that flips to four's like point of view. speaker-0: Fuck, I forgot that. speaker-1: Yeah. And then he I think starts like I think like it jumps like a couple of years and then Theo James's character four is with like someone else. It's a it's a weirdo speaker-0: Yep. It's a weird I just remember now being hard. speaker-1: Satisfying whose point of view you're reading from the entire time just dies. Which and then the book doesn't end. So it just point of view. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. It's a bold choice. Wait, are you sure it does it just ends and and it's from his point of view? Or did they come out with full speaker-1: Four. They also came out with four like book one from his point of view. speaker-0: Okay. Do you remember why his name is Four? speaker-1: Something with like his dad and like his dad like abused him speaker-0: i a little bit. He he has four fears. And he overcomes he, you know, 'cause they have that like fearsome. And he only has four when most people have like ten. ⁓ I think sh I think Triss only has like three. So Okay. Anyway. Brave Lady. It does but like throw back to that era speaker-1: Yeah. ⁓ ⁓ Petris. What? The brave lady. It's fun to watch. Same with Hunger Games, rewatching the Hunger Games series. speaker-0: I was gonna watch Hunger Games and then I was like, divergent, I need to watch this. But I might I might dabble in some Hunger Games. speaker-1: We've done that like both of we've done Divergent once, we've done Hunger Games like twice in all of our years being together. speaker-0: We watched The Ballad of Song and Snakes for the first time. ⁓ what'd you think? I liked it a lot. I liked the book a lot. The book was so good and the movie was great. It really was. I speaker-1: Me too. think I this is the only movie I'd say that for. I think I like the movie a little bit more than the book because specifically they followed it really well and ⁓ the music aspect of it. They just like brought the music part to life so well. Which you just can't like it's such a big part of the book. But then actually hearing it it was really cool. speaker-0: I think you're so right. I think the Every time we have these pauses in between us talking, I just think about editing and I always have to cut these out. Anyway. So yeah, they did a such a good job. speaker-1: Ha ha ha. Maybe I shouldn't play with my hair if you're editing. speaker-0: No, no, no, you're fine. They did such a good job making that into a movie. And that because too, I think Suzanne Collins just I think is a goat of this genre. I think speaker-1: I mean I don't think one of the actual originals. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. And like but like no one like literally no one has done sequels or like what are we at what do we call these? Spinoffs in a way. Like and done them as well as her. Like I don't know I don't know anyone because I would assume this book wouldn't be good. That's why I didn't read it when it came out. And then I read it and I like, fuck, that's a standalone excellent. speaker-1: School reading lists. So good about it is you know who Snow ends up becoming. Exact. And it brings so many like actual good questions into his character. Because you're like, was he always the way he was? When did he turn into that from this story? Did he actually love? Was it Lucy Gray? Mm-hmm. Did he actually love her or was he like had like an obsession with her? Just his narrative. speaker-0: Totally. And we and Yeah. And like but that's the thing. He questions himself all the time in the book. And also in the movie, the actor does an amazing job of showing you that. But like that but he's also always putting on a performance because of like life in the Capitol or whatever. And so speaker-1: So pure and he's portraying to be this like rich speaker-0: Exactly. But then when he's with someone speaker-1: He's relating to the these kids 'cause he's also starving and h like Yeah. speaker-0: Right. It's so well done the way like the b the situation she puts them all in are so interesting. Yes. And like the game's being like not created but being like re remade. And then like when he is with her, when he's with Lucy Gray, like you can just see like by the choices he makes when he's given the opportunity to be with her, like you see his what his choices are and how they reveal him. Like 'cause he's always using people and looking for leverage at any point. And like he lets his friend die. He essentially kills his friend by by sending in evidence that he was corroborating with rebels or whatever. Anyway, to save himself, you know. speaker-1: Yeah, he's you see him choosing hi like putting himself speaker-0: Yeah. And like obviously present speaker-1: version not fighting against the capital. He's like he's choosing the capital over potentially like he could he could do so much to help the rebels, but he chooses the capital because he sees he sees more, I guess, profit for himself. speaker-0: He I think at any point if he can, he always chooses power. Like if he if he sees a path path to power, he chooses it at all points. And he would and did sell out all his friends to get that. Correct. Which is crazy. It's but like such a great story because it almost doesn't work out for him a million times. speaker-1: Yeah. This is a book where I think in our book episode where we just went on multiple rants, we talked about Verity and how annoyed we were about the ending and how it like left it up to the it's like this thriller of a book and then it just made it completely like who did it and everyone was a little bit suspicious. Versus Suzanne Collins had an ending where there wasn't a clear conclusion and it was a little bit up to the reader. But it was done so well Done so well. speaker-0: Literally. There's just good writing and speaker-1: Bad right. speaker-0: Exactly. Some slap in between. Yeah. speaker-1: But actually, but now I do want your take, having ⁓ watched or seen the movie, do you think he killed Lucy Gray or do you Lucy Gray escaped? speaker-0: I think Lucy Ga Grey escaped. And I s I you know. speaker-1: When I was reading the book, I was like, I think Lucy Gray escaped, 'cause like you're her mind. Whatever when I watched the movie, I was like, I think he killed her. He was just looking more scary and angry in the moment. I was like, that's a killer eye, lose her, killer eyes. Reading the book, I was like, I think I'm getting the vibe that she escaped. speaker-0: But He definitely I think she escaped, but I do like not knowing. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. speaker-0: Because it it doesn't matter if she lived or died because she lived forever in his fucking mind. He never forgot. And the mocking Jays, knowing ⁓ my god, I'm gonna get chills. Knowing that like the Mocking Jays were like tied to Lucy Bard and like her singing, etc. And then Mocking Jay, the third Hunger Games book. Come on. I know the poetry of that is gorgeous. speaker-1: Exactly. Did you read Haymitches? speaker-0: No, I haven't read that yet. Is it good? speaker-1: I he's my favorite character. Period. For sure. He is just my favorite. And also there's so many beautiful tie ins to other characters in the book. And like, you know the mocking J pin that she gets in the first one? She like finds it in the ⁓ what's whatever the hob, like the black market place. You like ⁓ hear about the or origination? Origination? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: origin. Yeah, that's all. Origin. But yeah, you learn like where that comes there's just like so many like little pieces that tie in together. And also it is like the most brutal Hunger Games. But then like hate the way like you you just understand Hey Mitch too and it's devastating. And the only it's devastating. The only thing that gets you through like the ending of the book is that it ends speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Like you know again, you know what happens in Mocking Jay. The capital is taken down and everything. Right. But that's the only thing that gets you through how devastating it is. And that's like very like, okay, tied in. speaker-0: It's so ⁓ God, I love Hamidch. He's like such a a people's champion, you know what I mean? Character like that. speaker-1: Once he sees that. ⁓ like the potential in Pita and Katniss. You see him come alive, he's like, Okay, maybe this can change. But yeah, his story is devastating. speaker-0: Exactly. Ugh. ⁓ I think it's so interesting that you just pointed out, like like we know like these add on stories ⁓ are being explored more after we all know that like the capital does fall and like something else comes up in its place. And like so it's interesting to have that in the back of our minds while we read these horrible stories. Yeah. But like the again, this like There's so many books that try to do what Suzanne Collins does. Like this genre of what do we call it? Post-apocalyptic kind of thing. Or like New World or like futuristic remaking of a world, yada yada. ⁓ and also just a term for the YA of it all. ⁓ like there is like w what does she do that makes it a level above other books like this. Like, there's just something in the way that she lays out horrible things, but like in such a honest way where it's like, I don't know, I'm like trying to figure it out as I say it because I'm like, it could be sensational. This all could be something like for gore's sake or for just like reading, you know, like you just read a book that put you in a dark space, right? It could be that, but it doesn't do that to me. And the world that I read, Katniss and all this, like never like you know there's hope even when there's so much horrible things happening. And I just like wondered what it is that like she's doing while she's writing that like allows her to create that world. Whereas in other books in this genre, I'm like, this is ki like I don't even know. Like this just doesn't hit as well or like it's so obvious this isn't isn't the real world. But like there's something about the Hunger Games where you're like, this is our world. You know? We live in this world. It's obviously not like this, thank God. And like she's not pretending. Like ⁓ speaker-1: Yes, yeah. It's not right. speaker-0: Isn't pretend. This isn't a fantasy novel. This is like this is real. ⁓ Yeah. And it's also fantastical. Like I don't know. I was also thinking too, 'cause I was watching Divergent, and there's something the one thing I don't love about Divergent, ⁓ is that there isn't the juxtaposition of like the grime and the glam. And like Hunger Games is so addictive for that in the way that too like it it's almost like we love watching reality TV. We love watching like whatever Stanley Touche's character's name is, like Flabbius Flubin or something like that. Like the the absurdity of the Capitol and then the poor, like there's something so satisfying about seeing them clash and seeing someone go from District thirteen or twelve, district twelve to the capital and get judged up and then sent to death. You know what I mean? Yeah. There is that. speaker-1: Yeah. For sure. And ⁓ yeah, the moments when like people from the Capitol realize that they're watching humans, like those like few moments in between. Or like what like that's like the goal when they're in catching fire when they go back in and Pete's like pregnant. Yeah. That's like his goal to be like I want you to feel bad for us. And then yeah, it's like a plot line throughout even the the ⁓ big first two books. speaker-0: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: Is and like that Snow almost like does that on purpose. He's like giving them a more humanity. But just enough. speaker-0: Yeah. Which is what we learned from his book. We already knew that's he created that. Yeah. ⁓ okay, okay. speaker-1: No, yeah, that's what I'm referring to. Anyway, yeah, r I agree, really well done. Thirty one years old talking about the YA books, but like they have that yeah, they have a good meaning. speaker-0: And that's our You should do. speaker-1: What has this episode been? Thanks for listening. This has been catching up with Lilithy. Give us a five stars. Rate reveal. And we'll catch you next week. speaker-0: Don't know. I forgot you were there, listeners. Thank you for listening. See you next time. Blessings, many blessings. See you. speaker-1: So last thing is money glass.