Allen: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the SCC Savor Podcast. My name is Alan Smith, Pastoral Apprentice at Sanibel Community Church. And on this podcast, we have been, our hope is savoring God through every bite of scripture. Our hope is that you've continued to join us, but love the Word and love reading scripture. ⁓ I'm with my friend Azal. What's up, man? What's up, dude? Jeremy Rini. Jeramie: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the SCC Savor Podcast. My name is Alan Smith, Pastoral Apprentice at Sanibel Community Church. And on this podcast, we have been, our hope is savoring God through every bite of scripture. Our hope is that you've continued to join us, but love the Word and love reading scripture. ⁓ I'm with my friend Azal. What's up, man? What's up, dude? Jeremy Rini. Allen: Senior Pastor, Sanibel Community Church. Senior Pastor, Sanibel Community Church. ⁓ We've talked about, we talked about this a while ago, but real quick, what is ⁓ the greatest aim of Bible reading? Or why do we read the Bible? Why are we even recording? I don't think it's ever a idea to revisit this stuff. Yeah, that's good. Forget, remember why we're doing this. ⁓ And ultimately, it's because we want to savor God. We want to know God. Jeramie: Senior Pastor, Sanibel Community Church. Senior Pastor, Sanibel Community Church. ⁓ We've talked about, we talked about this a while ago, but real quick, what is ⁓ the greatest aim of Bible reading? Or why do we read the Bible? Why are we even recording? I don't think it's ever a idea to revisit this stuff. Yeah, that's good. Forget, remember why we're doing this. ⁓ And ultimately, it's because we want to savor God. We want to know God. Allen: and we know Him through His Word, and it also then has a transformative effect upon us that the Lord transforms our hearts through His Word. Yeah. So, Lamancio, transforming hearts through the Word. You've been not only just a student of the Word, just being a Christian, because Christians are students of the Word. You've also been a teacher of the Word, preaching and teaching for 30 years. I imagine you've thought about how to study the Bible well. There's a lot of people on here. Jeramie: and we know Him through His Word, and it also then has a transformative effect upon us that the Lord transforms our hearts through His Word. Yeah. So, Lamancio, transforming hearts through the Word. You've been not only just a student of the Word, just being a Christian, because Christians are students of the Word. You've also been a teacher of the Word, preaching and teaching for 30 years. I imagine you've thought about how to study the Bible well. There's a lot of people on here. Allen: who want to study the Bible well. Yes. ⁓ Maybe they're new at Bible reading or maybe they've been studying for a while, but they're just like, hey, how can I aid and go deeper in my Bible study? What would you? Maybe like this podcast is kind of what your appetite. Yeah. And you're like, what would be a next step? Yeah. Yeah. What would you recommend to people? I think a great tool to have is a good study Bible. ⁓ Any particular one? ⁓ ESV study Bible is solid. Right. Jeramie: who want to study the Bible well. Yes. ⁓ Maybe they're new at Bible reading or maybe they've been studying for a while, but they're just like, hey, how can I aid and go deeper in my Bible study? What would you? Maybe like this podcast is kind of what your appetite. Yeah. And you're like, what would be a next step? Yeah. Yeah. What would you recommend to people? I think a great tool to have is a good study Bible. ⁓ Any particular one? ⁓ ESV study Bible is solid. Right. Allen: And what's great about that is it's just a useful tool. The study notes in those have just come so far and can just be really useful as you're trying to dig into the meaning of the text ⁓ for yourself. ⁓ Another, you know, if you're listening to this and you're like, I'm kind of really getting into podcasts, maybe this is like your first podcast you ever listen to. Don't leave us. Do not leave us. That's right. Jeramie: And what's great about that is it's just a useful tool. The study notes in those have just come so far and can just be really useful as you're trying to dig into the meaning of the text ⁓ for yourself. ⁓ Another, ⁓ you know, if you're listening to this and you're like, I'm kind of really getting into podcasts, maybe this is like your first podcast you ever listen to. Don't leave us. Do not leave us. That's right. Allen: But there are other good ones out there that actually that would be a great addition maybe even better ones ⁓ Never never That's right But there's another another one I thought of was ⁓ it's called Bible talk and that one goes through the Bible But in a lot slower pace and they start in Genesis. Yeah, but what's great about that podcast is they're always making connections to Jeramie: But there are other good ones out there that actually that would be a great addition maybe even better ones Never never That's right But there's another another one I thought of was ⁓ it's called Bible talk and that one goes through the Bible But in a lot slower pace and they start in Genesis. Yeah, but what's great about that podcast is they're always making connections to Allen: the rest of scripture into. that's, so if you're like, really like this, this is a great way to learn. ⁓ And you want to double click and go even slower and dig deeper Bible talk, I would highly recommend. Yeah, they're great. Jim Hamilton. Sam Amati. Yeah. Yeah, he's a beast. Yeah, they're great. Yeah, they're really great. But you're listening to this podcast. And yes, you have, you had an agenda clicking play. We're the shallow end. Jeramie: the rest of scripture into. that's, so if you're like, really like this, this is a great way to learn. ⁓ And you want to double click and go even slower and dig deeper Bible talk, I would highly recommend. Yeah, they're great. Jim Hamilton. Sam Amati. Yeah. Yeah, he's a beast. Yeah, they're great. Yeah, they're really great. But you're listening to this podcast. And yes, you have, you had an agenda clicking play. We're the shallow end. Allen: And it's fun to play in the shallow is fun to play in the show and That's right. Well, let's let's let's get our feet wet then. Yes. All right month three new month days one to six you would have read Matthew 21 through 2312 in Numbers we have we have a new book that you started reading 1 through 14 and the Psalms you would have read 48 through 53 and then another new book Romans 1 Jeramie: And it's fun to play in the shallow is fun to play in the show and That's right. Well, let's let's let's get our feet wet then. Yes. All right month three new month days one to six you would have read Matthew 21 through 2312 in Numbers we have we have a new book that you started reading 1 through 14 and the Psalms you would have read 48 through 53 and then another new book Romans 1 through five chapter 11. we're going to jump in in verse 11. Yeah. I was like, wow. You said chapter 11. I was like, you are ambitious. We're not covering 11 chapters. Alan just reads scripture. Yeah, that's all I do. Yeah. Let's jump in with this new book, Numbers. We got out of Leviticus. We learned a lot about tabernacle and cleanliness laws. Allen: through five chapter 11. we're going to jump in in verse 11. Verse 11. Yeah. I was like, wow. You said chapter 11. I was like, you are ambitious. We're not covering 11 chapters. Alan just reads scripture. Yeah, that's That's all I do. Yeah. Let's jump in with this new book, Numbers. ⁓ We got out of Leviticus. We learned a lot about tabernacle and cleanliness laws. And now we're going to get into a little bit more of the story of the people, the people of Israel, arrangements, ⁓ censuses, a bunch of numbers. As you could imagine, the book is called Numbers and it lives up to its name. But there's a bunch of numbers in it. Jeremy, why don't you jump in, talk a little bit about numbers. What should, just at a high level, what should we be listening for? What should we be looking for? And what's the significance and the contribution of this book? Jeramie: And now we're going to get into a little bit more of the story of the people, the people of Israel, arrangements, ⁓ censuses, a bunch of numbers. As you could imagine, the book is called Numbers and it lives up to its name. But there's a bunch of numbers in it. Jeremy, why don't you jump in, talk a little bit about numbers. What should, just at a high level, what should we be listening for? What should we be looking for? And what's the significance and the contribution of this book? Allen: Yeah, so this book now is transitioning us from ⁓ Mount Sinai to the Promised Land. And as we're going to see that, you know, something happens, and it's actually at the end of our readings today, which is pretty bad. ⁓ But it also gives us more instruction just on, you know, the numbers of the people, the ordering of the people. In our reading, we got a lot in the Levites. Yeah, we did. Yeah, so, yeah, as you mentioned, this book, Jeramie: Yeah, so this book now is transitioning us from ⁓ Mount Sinai to the Promised Land. And as we're going to see that, you know, something happens, and it's actually at the end of our readings today, which is pretty bad. ⁓ But it also gives us more instruction just on, you know, the numbers of the people, the ordering of the people. In our reading, we got a lot in the Levites. Yeah, we did. Yeah, so, yeah, as you mentioned, this book, Allen: Transition from Sinai there. It's about one year after their departure from Egypt and then this is gonna recount their last 39 years ⁓ in the wilderness from Sinai to Kadesh and then finally to the plains on the eastern side of the Jordan River and so again the principal character again, got a lot about the Levites, but as always the principal Primary character is Yahweh. It's the God of Israel. It's how he's sovereign over the affairs of the people of Jeramie: Transition from Sinai there. It's about one year after their departure from Egypt and then this is gonna recount their last 39 years ⁓ in the wilderness from Sinai to Kadesh and then finally to the plains on the eastern side of the Jordan River and so again the principal character again, got a lot about the Levites, but as always the principal Primary character is Yahweh. It's the God of Israel. It's how he's sovereign over the affairs of the people of Allen: of the nations, and we're going to see just the presence of God, the purity and holiness of God. We're going to see Him bring order, which is a huge theme in this book, is we're going to see... Especially this first part, you know, God, like, putting the Levites there, putting the different groups, the camp, the arrangement, the trumpets. Which, you know, is interesting because it shows, like, you know, God cares about the organization of His people. Jeramie: of the nations, and we're going to see just the presence of God, the purity and holiness of God. We're going to see Him bring order, which is a huge theme in this book, is we're going to see... Especially this first part, you know, God, like, putting the Levites there, putting the different groups, the camp, the arrangement, the trumpets. Which, you know, is interesting because it shows, like, you know, God cares about the organization of His people. Allen: You know, we live in a time where people are kind of anti organization anti-authority anti-institution Yeah, people like I'm not into organized religion. It's like well God is super into organized religion He really is he organized Israel in the New Testament. He organizes the church. That's right elders deacons I mean there's order and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's good as you mentioned like just hit real quick the tribes of success Hey, here's what Ruben's gonna be Simeon Gad Judah Jeramie: You know, we live in a time where people are kind of anti organization anti-authority anti-institution Yeah, people like I'm not into organized religion. It's like well God is super into organized religion He really is he organized Israel in the New Testament. He organizes the church. That's right elders deacons I mean there's order and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's good as you mentioned like just hit real quick the tribes of success Hey, here's what Ruben's gonna be Simeon Gad Judah Allen: Issachar, Zebulun, Manasseh, Benjamin, Asher, Naftali. Puts him in all the different places, locations. That's right. We have, hey, he's like, they're just getting people to the east, to the north, to the south, to the west, and then the Levites, Moses, Aaron and his sons are right at the center. This is the arrangement of the camp. This is what we read about in chapters one and two. We see that they're listed on 603,550 total, but that's just the men who were able to fight in war from 20 years old and up. Jeramie: Issachar, Zebulun, Manasseh, Benjamin, Asher, Naftali. Puts him in all the different places, locations. That's right. We have, hey, he's like, they're just getting people to the east, to the north, to the south, to the west, and then the Levites, Moses, Aaron and his sons are right at the center. This is the arrangement of the camp. This is what we read about in chapters one and two. We see that they're listed on 603,550 total, but that's just the men who were able to fight in war from 20 years old and up. Allen: and that didn't include the women and children. So there's a lot more. He's organizing over a million people. Organization, numbers, people, or even I think like one of the things you get in numbers is you start seeing the fact that Israel grumbles against the Lord constantly. And actually Moses gets stressed out about it in chapter 11 because they're like, want food. And then he complains to God. He says, I can't carry all these people by myself. Jeramie: and that didn't include the women and children. So there's a lot more. He's organizing over a million people. Organization, numbers, people, or even I think like one of the things you get in numbers is you start seeing the fact that Israel grumbles against the Lord constantly. And actually Moses gets stressed out about it in chapter 11 because they're like, we want food. And then he complains to God. He says, I can't carry all these people by myself. Allen: chapter 11, they're too much for me. In fact, he must be really depressed because he says, if you're going to treat me like this, please kill me right now. I literally read that from the Bible. I'm like, wow, I guess you can get real with God. But then, you know, what's God's answer? He says, bring 70 elders, lay hands on them. So it's order, it's a multiplication of leadership. Jeramie: chapter 11, they're too much for me. In fact, he must be really depressed because he says, if you're going to treat me like this, please kill me right now. I literally read that from the Bible. I'm like, wow, I guess you can get real with God. But then, you know, what's God's answer? He says, bring 70 elders, lay hands on them. So it's order, it's a multiplication of leadership. Allen: And here's another reference to elders. know, elders is part of God's plan, Old Testament and New Testament. But then the big moment, at least in our reading, is chapters 13 and 14, where they get to the promised land and they send in the twelve spies to scout out the land. And these guys come back, the land of Cana, and ten of them are like, we can't do this. Jeramie: And here's another reference to elders. know, elders is part of God's plan, Old Testament and New Testament. But then the big moment, at least in our reading, is chapters 13 and 14, where they get to the promised land and they send in the twelve spies to scout out the land. And these guys come back, the land of Cana, and ten of them are like, we can't do this. The Canaanites are too big, their walls are too high, the people are too tough. And then there's just two guys, Joshua and Caleb, who are like, hey, God told us we can take the land, so let's take the land. Let's trust His word. Yeah, it says in 13 verse 30, but Caleb quieted the people before Moses and said, let us go up at once and occupy it, for we are able to overcome it. Then the men who had gone up with him said, we are not able to go. Allen: The Canaanites are too big, their walls are too high, the people are too tough. And then there's just two guys, Joshua and Caleb, who are like, hey, God told us we can take the land, so let's take the land. Let's trust His word. Yeah, it says in 13 verse 30, but Caleb quieted the people before Moses and said, let us go up at once and occupy it, for we are able to overcome it. Then the men who had gone up with him said, we are not able to go. Against the people for they are stronger than we are so they brought a bad report But then as you mentioned Josh and Caleb brought this good report because they stood on which is a theme of the entire Torah as we've been reading is that God is faithful to fulfill his promise and give the people the land and their inheritance and so Joshua and Caleb are commended their ⁓ Pillars of faith for trusting not in their military strength Because yes, they were right. They couldn't overcome it Jeramie: Against the people for they are stronger than we are so they brought a bad report But then as you mentioned Josh and Caleb brought this good report because they stood on which is a theme of the entire Torah as we've been reading is that God is faithful to fulfill his promise and give the people the land and their inheritance and so Joshua and Caleb are commended their ⁓ Pillars of faith for trusting not in their military strength Because yes, they were right. They couldn't overcome it Allen: But it wasn't about their military strength, it was about the promises of God. And Joshua says that ⁓ in 148. It's kind of a mic drop moment for him. says, the Lord is pleased with us, He will bring us into this land, a land flowing with milk and honey and give it to us. Only don't rebel against the Lord and don't be afraid of the people of the land, for we will devour them. Their protection has been removed from them and the Lord is with us. Don't be afraid of them. But we know the story, the people rebelled. ⁓ Jeramie: But it wasn't about their military strength, it was about the promises of God. And Joshua says that ⁓ in 148. It's kind of a mic drop moment for him. says, the Lord is pleased with us, He will bring us into this land, a land flowing with milk and honey and give it to us. Only don't rebel against the Lord and don't be afraid of the people of the land, for we will devour them. Their protection has been removed from them and the Lord is with us. Don't be afraid of them. But we know the story, the people rebelled. ⁓ Allen: And so God's like, you're not going in. He says, you're going back into the wilderness. You guys are all going to die in the wilderness. And what's crazy is then the people are like, okay, sorry, we're going in. We're going in. At the end of chapter 14, God's like, don't go in. Now I'm not with you, so now you can't. And then they get routed. So it's like when God says go, they don't go. When God says don't go, they go. It reminds me of myself a little bit. Jeramie: And so God's like, you're not going in. He says, you're going back into the wilderness. You guys are all going to die in the wilderness. And what's crazy is then the people are like, okay, sorry, we're going in. We're going in. At the end of chapter 14, God's like, don't go in. Now I'm not with you, so now you can't. And then they get routed. So it's like when God says go, they don't go. When God says don't go, they go. It reminds me of myself a little bit. Allen: Think it's I think what's funny. I was making this argument yesterday in Sunday school ⁓ We assume we read ourselves into the stories as the heroes it's like well We would have been like Joshua and Caleb the reality is No, we would have been like the Israelites were like, ⁓ what are we doing here? You guys are dumb Yeah, so I just think it reminds us of like hey we are people that continually forget God forget God's promises and yet he Jeramie: Think it's I think what's funny. I was making this argument yesterday in Sunday school ⁓ We assume we read ourselves into the stories as the heroes it's like well We would have been like Joshua and Caleb the reality is No, we would have been like the Israelites were like, ⁓ what are we doing here? You guys are dumb Yeah, so I just think it reminds us of like hey we are people that continually forget God forget God's promises and yet he Allen: proves himself to continue to be faithful. Yeah, there's punishment disobedience, but ultimately we know that the punishment has already been placed onto his son and that it goes to show our need for Jesus Christ even more. Psalms, Psalm 51 is a Psalm you should, if you're listening to this, you should just kind of note this. This is a powerful Psalm of repentance. Jeramie: proves himself to continue to be faithful. Yeah, there's punishment disobedience, but ultimately we know that the punishment has already been placed onto his son and that it goes to show our need for Jesus Christ even more. Psalms, Psalm 51 is a Psalm you should, if you're listening to this, you should just kind of note this. This is a powerful Psalm of repentance. Allen: It's the one that David wrote after he was found out about his affair with Bathsheba and his murder of her husband. And then he finally was caught, and then this is his psalm of repentance. So it's like a big repentance for a big deal ⁓ incident. you know, just beautiful language, verse 10, ⁓ Jeramie: It's the one that David wrote after he was found out about his affair with Bathsheba and his murder of her husband. And then he finally was caught, and then this is his psalm of repentance. So it's like a big repentance for a big deal ⁓ incident. you know, just beautiful language, verse 10, ⁓ Allen: Do not banish me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore the joy of your salvation and sustain me by giving me a willing spirit." I mean, it's just great words for when you become face to face with your sin, and this scripture really gives you the words to be brutally honest with God, both about your sin and your hope that He is a gracious and forgiving God. Yeah. I think that, you know, this Psalm actually changed my Christian life. Jeramie: Do not banish me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore the joy of your salvation and sustain me by giving me a willing spirit." I mean, it's just great words for when you become face to face with your sin, and this scripture really gives you the words to be brutally honest with God, both about your sin and your hope that He is a gracious and forgiving God. Yeah. I think that, you know, this Psalm actually changed my Christian life. Allen: a few years ago because that verse 12 that you just read restored to me the joy of your salvation and uphold me with a willing spirit. David's problem was not based on like his desires. It was based on his failure to remember God's salvation. He forgot God. Jeramie: a few years ago because that verse 12 that you just read restored to me the joy of your salvation and uphold me with a willing spirit. David's problem was not based on like his desires. It was based on his failure to remember God's salvation. He forgot God. Allen: Restored to me the driver your salvation He forgot the joy of his salvation and that just really shaped my framework for my Christian life is like man Why am I fleeing to these maybe worldly things or why am I fleeing to these things that are less than God? It's because I forgot what God has done for me And this is the same story that we just have been talking about in the Old Testament Israel forgot What God did for them to redeem them out of slavery out of Egypt out of Egypt? And so he says remember what I did for you. I am the Lord in this same way David forgot Jeramie: Restored to me the driver your salvation He forgot the joy of his salvation and that just really shaped my framework for my Christian life is like man Why am I fleeing to these maybe worldly things or why am I fleeing to these things that are less than God? It's because I forgot what God has done for me And this is the same story that we just have been talking about in the Old Testament Israel forgot What God did for them to redeem them out of slavery out of Egypt out of Egypt? And so he says remember what I did for you. I am the Lord in this same way David forgot Allen: the Lord and I just think about that in my own life. It's like man, I just got to remember remember what God did for me. That's the ground and basis for everything because everything else is fleeting. Yeah, and it shows that our obedience flows out of ⁓ gratitude and faith in what the Lord's done for us. ⁓ And so it's a grace based obedience. Yeah, I always like to frame it as grace. Jeramie: the Lord and I just think about that in my own life. It's like man, I just got to remember remember what God did for me. That's the ground and basis for everything because everything else is fleeting. Yeah, and it shows that our obedience flows out of ⁓ gratitude and faith in what the Lord's done for us. ⁓ And so it's a grace based obedience. Yeah, I always like to frame it as grace. Allen: fueled obedience grace fueled obedience grace fueled obedience hey Psalm Psalm 51 or sorry Psalm 49 really struck me this time. Yeah, because oh, yeah, I was just like it just talks about the fleeting of the riches It's like hey verse 5 why should I fear in times of trouble? When the iniquity of those who cheat surrounds me those who trust in their wealth the boast of the abundance of their riches and he's like hey Jeramie: fueled obedience grace fueled obedience grace fueled obedience hey Psalm Psalm 51 or sorry Psalm 49 really struck me this time. Yeah, because oh, yeah, I was just like it just talks about the fleeting of the riches It's like hey verse 5 why should I fear in times of trouble? When the iniquity of those who cheat surrounds me those who trust in their wealth the boast of the abundance of their riches and he's like hey Allen: These people are fools like man and his pomp will not remain He is like the beast that perished wealth will perish people will perish be not afraid when a man becomes rich when the glory of his house increases for when he dies he will carry nothing away his glory will not go down after him for though while he lives he counts himself blessed and though you get praise when you do well for yourself his soul will go to the generation of his fathers who will never again see light man and his pomp Jeramie: These people are fools like man and his pomp will not remain He is like the beast that perished wealth will perish people will perish be not afraid when a man becomes rich when the glory of his house increases for when he dies he will carry nothing away his glory will not go down after him for though while he lives he counts himself blessed and though you get praise when you do well for yourself his soul will go to the generation of his fathers who will never again see light man and his pomp Allen: yet without understandings like the beast that perish. Psalm 49 feels a little bit ecclesiastes to me. Yes, that's exactly what I thought of when I read it. Yeah, where it's kind of just saying, hey, if you're chasing wealth, if that's what you're living for, you're going to die and then your wealth will go to someone else and you're going to die like an animal, just like everyone else. You know, it says in verse 17, for when he dies, will... Jeramie: yet without understandings like the beast that perish. Psalm 49 feels a little bit ecclesiastes to me. Yes, that's exactly what I thought of when I read it. Yeah, where it's kind of just saying, hey, if you're chasing wealth, if that's what you're living for, you're going to die and then your wealth will go to someone else and you're going to die like an animal, just like everyone else. You know, it says in verse 17, for when he dies, will... Allen: take nothing at all. His wealth will not follow him down. So a great Psalm warning against one of the biggest false gods we all attempt to worship, which is money. You Jesus says you can't worship God or money. I mean, you can't worship both God and money. You got to take your pick. Choose today which master you shall serve. ⁓ Hey, maybe real quick, Psalm 53. Kind of a tough song because how do we make sense of Jeramie: take nothing at all. His wealth will not follow him down. So a great Psalm warning against one of the biggest false gods we all attempt to worship, which is money. You Jesus says you can't worship God or money. I mean, you can't worship both God and money. You got to take your pick. Choose today which master you shall serve. ⁓ Hey, maybe real quick, Psalm 53. Kind of a tough song because how do we make sense of Allen: these harsh words, the fool says in his heart, there is no God, they're corrupt, doing abominable iniquity, there is a none who does good, God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there's any who understand, who seek after God, they've fallen away, together they become ripped, there's no one who does good, not even one. Is that saying that there literally is not a single person on the planet who does good? I think what it's saying is that apart from God's grace, yes. Jeramie: these harsh words, the fool says in his heart, there is no God, they're corrupt, doing abominable iniquity, there is a none who does good, God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there's any who understand, who seek after God, they've fallen away, together they become ripped, there's no one who does good, not even one. Is that saying that there literally is not a single person on the planet who does good? I think what it's saying is that apart from God's grace, yes. ⁓ Allen: that there's no one who can please God ⁓ based upon their works, that in our hearts we are depraved and that depravity touches all aspects of our being. And in fact, as we're going to see, actually in a few moments here, we're going to talk about Romans, which we started reading. Paul quotes this as his evidence and argument that no one is righteous enough for God. So when we say no one does good deeds, Jeramie: that there's no one who can please God ⁓ based upon their works, that in our hearts we are depraved and that depravity touches all aspects of our being. And in fact, as we're going to see, actually in a few moments here, we're going to talk about Romans, which we started reading. Paul quotes this as his evidence and argument that no one is righteous enough for God. So when we say no one does good deeds, Allen: what we mean is there's no deeds that are pure and acceptable to God in and of themselves. It doesn't mean like from a kind of human standpoint people don't do good things. I mean if you give money to a charity, I it's a good thing. But in a kind of ultimate sense of pleasing to God, even our good deeds often come out of very selfish motives and very self-serving motives. Jeramie: what we mean is there's no deeds that are pure and acceptable to God in and of themselves. It doesn't mean like from a kind of human standpoint people don't do good things. I mean if you give money to a charity, I it's a good thing. But in a kind of ultimate sense of pleasing to God, even our good deeds often come out of very selfish motives and very self-serving motives. Allen: But that's good to hit that real quick before we see it in Romans. But before we do that, let's go look at ⁓ Jesus in the Gospels 22 to 23 here. And when I was reading this, ⁓ was what really stood out to me was really apparent of how harsh Jesus is towards these Pharisees. Yeah, this is a smack down. Smack down. He is not. I think sometimes we think of Jesus as like just this super kind, nice guy, which he is. Jeramie: But that's good to hit that real quick before we see it in Romans. But before we do that, let's go look at ⁓ Jesus in the Gospels 22 to 23 here. And when I was reading this, ⁓ was what really stood out to me was really apparent of how harsh Jesus is towards these Pharisees. Yeah, this is a smack down. Smack down. He is not. I think sometimes we think of Jesus as like just this super kind, nice guy, which he is. Allen: But he was really, really serious. Kind of like Mr. Rogers. Yeah. Like, friends, hey neighbors, you know? And he does, I mean, he has the most gracious heart that the sinners flock to him. And yet, you know, he is lowly and gentle. But man, he just goes after these guys. It's a war of words. Chapters 22 and 23 is a war of words between Jesus and the religious leaders, both the Pharisees. Jeramie: But he was really, really serious. Kind of like Mr. Rogers. Yeah. Like, friends, hey neighbors, you know? And he does, I mean, he has the most gracious heart that the sinners flock to him. And yet, you know, he is lowly and gentle. But man, he just goes after these guys. It's a war of words. Chapters 22 and 23 is a war of words between Jesus and the religious leaders, both the Pharisees. Allen: the Sadducees and also the teachers of the law. And he goes back and forth with them. Yeah, a few words. This is 2131. said to them, truly I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you. He hits down, parable of the tenants. Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. In 22, the parable of the wedding feast. Jeramie: the Sadducees and also the teachers of the law. And he goes back and forth with them. Yeah, a few words. This is 2131. said to them, truly I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you. He hits down, parable of the tenants. Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. In 22, the parable of the wedding feast. Allen: When he goes invites out invites all these people they're not worthy and he says hey go out to everyone else and invite them and then he says that ⁓ In that place after he says the king comes back with a guest and he had no wedding garment He's his friend. How did you get in here without a wedding garment? And he was speechless then the king said to the attendants Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness in that place There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for many are called but few are Jeramie: When he goes invites out invites all these people they're not worthy and he says hey go out to everyone else and invite them and then he says that ⁓ In that place after he says the king comes back with a guest and he had no wedding garment He's his friend. How did you get in here without a wedding garment? And he was speechless then the king said to the attendants Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness in that place There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for many are called but few are Allen: Chosen these are harsh words. Yeah, and and what you'll notice just one way to read this section is Is to see Jesus switching between offense and defense He's in a battle and it's kind of like watching a football game like that defense comes out the offense comes out Am I getting that right? Yeah, okay. I just want to make sure because I'm winning anytime I start talking sports. We're on thin ice Yeah, well, yeah both offense and defense are on the on the field at the same time But if we just think about one team Jeramie: Chosen these are harsh words. Yeah, and and what you'll notice just one way to read this section is Is to see Jesus switching between offense and defense He's in a battle and it's kind of like watching a football game like that defense comes out the offense comes out Am I getting that right? Yeah, okay. I just want to make sure because I'm winning anytime I start talking sports. We're on thin ice Yeah, well, yeah both offense and defense are on the on the field at the same time But if we just think about one team Allen: Back from a whole offense and defense to screw down your analogy. There we go. This is why Alan's here and Specialty we're not gonna bring special teams in yeah, but anyway So sometimes Jesus is on offense and he's telling parables to just point out that that the Pharisees are out and the people they didn't think They thought were out or in and then other times they're coming at him with questions and attacks But but he just deflects every time. I mean, he's just Jeramie: Back from a whole offense and defense to screw down your analogy. There we go. This is why Alan's here and Specialty we're not gonna bring special teams in yeah, but anyway So sometimes Jesus is on offense and he's telling parables to just point out that that the Pharisees are out and the people they didn't think They thought were out or in and then other times they're coming at him with questions and attacks, but but he just deflects every time I mean, he's just you know, the Sadducees are like, ⁓ let's get him on this one about marriage. And, know, one lady gets married to seven brothers because, you know, they never produce offspring. Who's she married to in the resurrection? Or, you know, should we pay taxes to Caesar or not? And every time he just completely judos them. Allen: you know, the Sadducees are like, ⁓ let's get him on this one about marriage. know, one lady gets married to seven brothers because, you know, they never produce offspring. Who's she married to in the resurrection? Or, you know, should we pay taxes to Caesar or not? And every time he just completely judos them. Jeramie: They they take a swing at him and it's like a keto he grabs their arm and he throws them Yeah, and he's totally jukes them all it's great. Yeah, that is great. That's a great analogy Here's an offensive statement, is really offensive because these are like he's talking to teachers of the law In 42 of 21 chapter 21 Jesus said to them. Have you never read the scriptures? Imagine that like imagine Jesus coming to you or someone coming you've been teaching them over 30 years. Have you never read the Bible? I know it just feel like Allen: They they take a swing at him and it's like a keto he grabs their arm and he throws them Yeah, and he totally jukes them all it's great. Yeah, that is great. That's a great analogy Here's an offensive statement, is really offensive because these are like he's talking to teachers of the law In 42 of 21 chapter 21 Jesus said to them. Have you never read the scriptures? Imagine that like imagine Jesus coming to you or someone coming you've been teaching them over 30 years. Have you never read the Bible? I know it just feel like Jeramie: Dang bro, dial it back. But he didn't. He didn't. He's like the stone that the builders rejected, he's quoting Psalm 118, has become the cornerstone. This was the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in our eyes. Yeah, a great prophecy ⁓ prophetic Psalm about himself. Yeah. And then, know, and all of this is anticipatory. And so this kind of setting you up for the next podcast reading. chapter three, he goes in, we're going to see, he's going to go into woe oracles against the leaders. Allen: Dang bro, dial it back. But he didn't. He didn't. He's like the stone that the builders rejected, he's quoting Psalm 118, has become the cornerstone. This was the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in our eyes. Yeah, a great prophecy ⁓ prophetic Psalm about himself. Yeah. And then, know, and all of this is anticipatory. And so this kind of setting you up for the next podcast reading. chapter three, he goes in, we're going to see, he's going to go into woe oracles against the leaders. Jeramie: And then chapter four is the prophecy about the destruction of the temple. So basically he is pronouncing the complete failure and hopelessness of the religious system of the Jews at that time. And he's setting himself up as the only true savior, teacher, leader of the people of Israel. exactly right. I think there's this last little section in 22 is worth mentioning because everyone knows this. Allen: And then chapter four is the prophecy about the destruction of the temple. So basically he is pronouncing the complete failure and hopelessness of the religious system of the Jews at that time. And he's setting himself up as the only true savior, teacher, leader of the people of Israel. exactly right. I think there's this last little section in 22 is worth mentioning because everyone knows this. Jeramie: You know, hey, when they approached him, teacher, this is 36 of 22, teacher, what is, which is the greatest commandment in the law? And he said to him, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. In a second as like it, shall love your neighbors yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets often, of course, called the golden rule. Treat others as you may, as you do want to be treated. Allen: You know, hey, when they approached him, teacher, this is 36 of 22, teacher, what is, which is the greatest commandment in the law? And he said to him, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. In a second as like it, shall love your neighbors yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets often, of course, called the golden rule. Treat others as you may, as you do want to be treated. Jeramie: And I think what's interesting, I think sometimes we lose this, is everything in the law and the prophets, what that means is basically the entire Old Testament. So the Pentateuch or the Torah, the first five books that we've been reading, and then the prophets all hinge on two commandments. You can kind of sum up all the ethical commands under those two commands. Love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself. And of course the problem is, you know, the Pharisees and teachers long weren't doing that. Right. Allen: And I think what's interesting, I think sometimes we lose this, is everything in the law and the prophets, what that means is basically the entire Old Testament. So the Pentateuch or the Torah, the first five books that we've been reading, and then the prophets all hinge on two commandments. You can kind of sum up all the ethical commands under those two commands. Love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself. And of course the problem is, you know, the Pharisees and teachers long weren't doing that. Right. Jeramie: They weren't loving God. Like here's God's Messiah and they don't love Him. You know, they love their position. They love their status. And they don't love their neighbor. I mean, they're trying to kill Jesus. So he just calls them out. Like at the very heart of the law, they've already failed. Yeah, I think just thinking about today and as I think about this commandment, ⁓ which our love outflows from an understanding of God's love for us. Like if you miss Allen: They weren't loving God. Like here's God's Messiah and they don't love Him. You know, they love their position. They love their status. And they don't love their neighbor. I mean, they're trying to kill Jesus. So he just calls them out. Like at the very heart of the law, they've already failed. Yeah, I think just thinking about today and as I think about this commandment, ⁓ which our love outflows from an understanding of God's love for us. Like if you miss Jeramie: God's love for you, you will not be able to love the Lord your God with our heart and your neighbors yourself because God, I was thinking about this just kind of like the doctrine of the Trinity and like the idea that God is in a triune relationship with himself, perfect loving relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit. And it's outflowing of that love towards us that just spills over again, because God doesn't need us, but his love for himself outflows into his love for us. Allen: God's love for you, you will not be able to love the Lord your God with our heart and your neighbors yourself because God, I was thinking about this just kind of like the doctrine of the Trinity and like the idea that God is in a triune relationship with himself, perfect loving relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit. And it's outflowing of that love towards us that just spills over again, because God doesn't need us, but his love for himself outflows into his love for us. Jeramie: And we understand that, like, man, God loves me, therefore I can go and love others. you know, it says in Romans 5, which, you know, we're also going to talk about, you know, God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has given to us. So because the Spirit lives in us, that love between Father, Son and Spirit ⁓ is now in us through the Spirit. ⁓ well, let's talk about Romans. Yeah, some Romans. Romans is a letter. Allen: And we understand that, like, man, God loves me, therefore I can go and love others. you know, it says in Romans 5, which, you know, we're also going to talk about, you know, God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has given to us. So because the Spirit lives in us, that love between Father, Son and Spirit ⁓ is now in us through the Spirit. ⁓ well, let's talk about Romans. Yeah, some Romans. Romans is a letter. So this in this podcast now is our first epistle This is a letter written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Rome a church. He did not start or plant But that has grown it's a Jew Gentile church so they're wrestling with all of the tensions of how do we be one church with? Some people who are culturally Jewish some people who are culturally Gentile What the gospel is kind of fresh? Yeah, that's right this time in history, and they're still figuring out what what is this? Jeramie: So this, in this podcast now, this is our first epistle. This is a letter written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Rome, a church he did not start or plant, but that has grown. It's a Jew-Gentile church, so they're wrestling with all of the tensions of how do we be one church with some people who are culturally Jewish, some people who are culturally Gentile. The gospel is kind of fresh at this time in history, and they're still figuring out what is this... Gospel. That's right. And how does it work and how does it relate to the law? And also, this is a kind of missionary fundraising letter. Paul is hoping that the Church in Rome will support him financially because he wants to go to Spain and preach the gospel where Christ has not been named. So he's also kind of introducing himself to this church. They've heard of each other, but they've never met. And so Paul's laying out his theology. So what ends up happening in Romans is it ends up being like... Allen: Gospel. That's right. And how does it work and how does it relate to the law? And also, this is a kind of missionary fundraising letter. Paul is hoping that the Church in Rome will support him financially because he wants to go to Spain and preach the gospel where Christ has not been named. So he's also kind of introducing himself to this church. They've heard of each other, but they've never met. And so Paul's laying out his theology. So what ends up happening in Romans is it ends up being like... Jeramie: Paul's theological magnum opus. he just, that's why people love Romans. The theology is so big and deep because he wants to teach them what the gospel is and all of its implications. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, here's his thesis statement for the book of Romans again after he introduces himself, which I think actually is worth ⁓ mentioning. He's like, hey, Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel. Here's his purpose. Allen: Paul's theological magnum opus. he just, that's why people love Romans. The theology is so big and deep because he wants to teach them what the gospel is and all of its implications. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, here's his thesis statement for the book of Romans again after he introduces himself, which I think actually is worth ⁓ mentioning. He's like, hey, Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel. Here's his purpose. ⁓ Jeramie: which he promised beforehand through the prophets and the holy scriptures concerning his son. So this is all about Jesus who is descended from David, right? And then jump down to 16 and 17. Here's the thesis statement. Like if you're reading this, go back, highlight this and write thesis statement because this is essentially the rest of the book is an explanation of this. For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Allen: which he promised beforehand through the prophets and the holy scriptures concerning his son. So this is all about Jesus who is descended from David, right? And then jump down to 16 and 17. Here's the thesis statement. Like if you're reading this, go back, highlight this and write thesis statement because this is essentially the rest of the book is an explanation of this. For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Jeramie: For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith as it is written, the righteous shall live by faith. That's his thesis statement. That's what he's going to explain. The power of God for salvation in the gospel that is to be received by faith. then that argument begins to unfold in our reading. ⁓ So chapters, the rest of chapter one, chapter two and three are there to show that because of sin, Allen: For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith as it is written, the righteous shall live by faith. That's his thesis statement. That's what he's going to explain. The power of God for salvation in the gospel that is to be received by faith. then that argument begins to unfold in our reading. ⁓ So chapters, the rest of chapter one, chapter two and three are there to show that because of sin, Jeramie: nobody is going to be righteous according to the law. So, there's a righteous…you know, going back to the thief statement, there's a righteousness from God, from faith to faith, that the righteousness is received by faith. And then he shows that we are under God's judgment, that we can't be righteous by trying to obey Him. And in fact, know, he…you know, chapter 3 verse 9, he says, we have already charged that both Jew and Gentiles are all Allen: nobody is going to be righteous according to the law. So, there's a righteous…you know, going back to the thief statement, there's a righteousness from God, from faith to faith, that the righteousness is received by faith. And then he shows that we are under God's judgment, that we can't be righteous by trying to obey Him. And in fact, know, he…you know, chapter 3 verse 9, he says, we have already charged that both Jew and Gentiles are all Jeramie: under sin. So this is the argument that he's trying to make. if you go to... ⁓ That's where he quotes Psalm 53 that we mentioned. No one is righteous, no not one, no one understands, no one seeks for God. That raises, I think, ⁓ a question, a harder question. Everyone asks this. I think every single Christian has asked this at some point is, what about if there's no one who does good, no one righteous, Jew and Gentile, that includes everyone in the world, what about the people who haven't heard Allen: under sin. So this is the argument that he's trying to make. if you go to... ⁓ That's where he quotes Psalm 53 that we mentioned. No one is righteous, no not one, no one understands, no one seeks for God. That raises, I think, ⁓ a question, a harder question. Everyone asks this. I think every single Christian has asked this at some point is, what about if there's no one who does good, no one righteous, Jew and Gentile, that includes everyone in the world, what about the people who haven't heard Jeramie: the gospel. Yeah, if it's of salvations through the gospel, what about people who haven't heard the gospel? Is it fair? Right. And it's interesting, in chapter 1, verses 18, you actually get Paul's answer to that question. He says, for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all godlessness and unrighteousness of people who by their unrighteousness, this is key, suppress the truth. Allen: the gospel. Yeah, if it's of salvations through the gospel, what about people who haven't heard the gospel? Is it fair? Right. And it's interesting, in chapter 1, verses 18, you actually get Paul's answer to that question. He says, for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all godlessness and unrighteousness of people who by their unrighteousness, this is key, suppress the truth. Jeramie: So all people everywhere, whether they've heard the gospel or whether they're in some people group, they've never heard the gospel. We all do the same thing. We suppress the truth. What truth? Verse 19. Since what can be known about God is evident among them because God has shown it to them how, verse 20, His invisible attributes, that is His eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen since the creation of the world being understood through what has been made. As a result, people are without. Allen: So all people everywhere, whether they've heard the gospel or whether they're in some people group, they've never heard the gospel. We all do the same thing. We suppress the truth. What truth? Verse 19. Since what can be known about God is evident among them because God has shown it to them how, verse 20, His invisible attributes, that is His eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen since the creation of the world being understood through what has been made. As a result, people are without. Jeramie: excuse. So there's enough revelation of God's power and His character in creation that everybody on planet Earth should know that there is a God that we answer to Him so that on the judgment day, even if you've never heard the gospel, you know, you have already rebelled against that which has been shown. You've suppressed the truth. So it's not like people have never heard the gospel. Allen: excuse. So there's enough revelation of God's power and His character in creation that everybody on planet Earth should know that there is a God that we answer to Him so that on the judgment day, even if you've never heard the gospel, you know, you have already rebelled against that which has been shown. You've suppressed the truth. So it's not like people have never heard the gospel. Jeramie: can say like, I didn't hear the Gospels. This is not fair. Then we're going to hell. It's like, no, you've rejected the truth. Although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him because, but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened. That's a hard truth, isn't it? Yeah, it is. it goes to show God's heart and again, the Romans, for the nations to get the gospel out in that it calls us to action. That should break our hearts. Allen: can say like, I didn't hear the Gospels. This is not fair. Then we're going to hell. It's like, no, you've rejected the truth. Although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him because, but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened. That's a hard truth, isn't it? Yeah, it is. it goes to show God's heart and again, the Romans, for the nations to get the gospel out in that it calls us to action. That should break our hearts. Jeramie: that people don't know the gospel and so therefore we ought to bring it to them. Send out workers, send out missionaries. But the Jews need the gospel too because they can't be saved by the law. ⁓ know, chapter 3 verse 28, here's the conclusion, for we conclude, this is kind of his conclusion to the first three chapters, that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Then that leads into chapter 4 where he makes the argument Allen: that people don't know the gospel and so therefore we ought to bring it to them. Send out workers, send out missionaries. But the Jews need the gospel too because they can't be saved by the law. ⁓ know, chapter 3 verse 28, here's the conclusion, for we conclude, this is kind of his conclusion to the first three chapters, that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Then that leads into chapter 4 where he makes the argument Jeramie: that Abraham, who is the father of the Jewish people, he was actually justified before God by faith, and it was even before he was circumcised. So, in other words, even Abraham found out that salvation is by faith, ⁓ and it's not by the works of the law, even circumcision. Yeah, exactly right. Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness. And then he gets into the... Allen: that Abraham, who is the father of the Jewish people, he was actually justified before God by faith, and it was even before he was circumcised. So, in other words, even Abraham found out that salvation is by faith, and it's not by the works of the law, even circumcision. Yeah, exactly right. Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness. And then he gets into the... Jeramie: He's laid out his argument in those first four chapters and then five verse one, therefore, here's his statement, having received this by faith, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. And we say, amen, hallelujah. We receive by faith the gospel and we have peace with God. We are no longer at war with God or striving, but we have peace through our Lord Jesus Christ. Allen: He's laid out his argument in those first four chapters and then five verse one, therefore, here's his statement, having received this by faith, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. And we say, amen, hallelujah. We receive by faith the gospel and we have peace with God. We are no longer at war with God or striving, but we have peace through our Lord Jesus Christ. Jeramie: And so we have access to God. ⁓ You mentioned again that this righteousness by faith, ⁓ actually real quick, I want to double click on some of these. My favorite verse is so much in here. this is yeah. Yeah, there really is. But like crime how fast we're going through Romans right now. know it really is. I so I taught through I think just the first five chapters in like like 12 weeks or something. When? Youth group like a year ago. went through you taught high school students to Romans one through five. I did. Allen: And so we have access to God. ⁓ You mentioned again that this righteousness by faith, ⁓ actually real quick, I want to double click on some of these. My favorite verse is so much in here. this is yeah. Yeah, there really is. But like crime how fast we're going through Romans right now. know it really is. I so I taught through I think just the first five chapters in like like 12 weeks or something. When? Youth group like a year ago. went through you taught high school students to Romans one through five. I did. That's awesome dude. It was a lot of fun. Why do we think high school students don't need theology and Bible? No, that's why I did it because I get really annoyed. It's like these kids will learn like algebra and geometry and physics and all that. I was like they can get some Paul's theology on justification by faith alone. Yeah, somehow we think well we got to keep them in church and so we just need to give them like just fluff. It's like no, they need it too just like we need it. Yeah, they want to learn too. They do want to learn and they can and you know what their minds are younger than Jeramie: That's awesome dude. It was a lot of fun. Why do we think high school students don't need theology and Bible? No, that's why I did it because I get really annoyed. It's like these kids will learn like algebra and geometry and physics and all that. I was like they can get some Paul's theology on justification by faith alone. Yeah, somehow we think well we got to keep them in church and so we just need to give them like just fluff. It's like no, they need it too just like we need it. Yeah, they want to learn too. They do want to learn and they can't and you know what their minds are younger than ours and they actually can learn better. ⁓ I know but Here we go real quick ⁓ But God this is like some of my favorite verses in the Bible 5 8 but God shows his love actually 7 4 1 will scarcely die for a righteous person though perhaps for a good person 1 would dare even to die but God Shows his love for us and that while we were still sinners Allen: and they actually can learn better. I know, but here we go real quick. ⁓ But God, this is like some of my favorite verses in the Bible, five, eight, but God shows his love, actually seven, four, one will scarcely die for a righteous person, though perhaps for a good person, one would dare even to die. But God shows his love for us and that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since therefore we now have been justified by his blood. Jeramie: Christ died for us since therefore we now have been justified by his blood much more shall We be saved by him from the wrath of God for while if we were enemies We were reconciled to God by the death of his son much more now that we are reconciled shall we be saved by his? Life more than that he's not even done. We also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom we now have received Reconciliation yeah, you know the word reconciliation is such a big word in chapter 5. You know verse 1 Allen: much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For while if we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his son, much more now that we are reconciled shall we be saved by his life. More than that, he's not even done. We also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom we now have received reconciliation. Yeah, you know the word reconciliation is such a big word in chapter five, you know, verse one, peace with God. Jeramie: peace with God, ⁓ verse 10 of chapter 5, reconciliation to God, and then the one you just read, chapter 11, we've received reconciliation. So, we're unreconciled because of our sin, we're under God's wrath, but now, through Jesus' death and resurrection, a new righteousness is available to us, not by our own works, but simply receiving it by faith, that's chapter 4. And if we do that, the result is we're reconciled to God in chapter... Allen: ⁓ verse 10 of chapter 5, reconciliation to God, ⁓ and then the one you just read, chapter 11, we've received reconciliation. So, we're unreconciled because of our sin, we're under God's wrath, but now, through Jesus' death and resurrection, a new righteousness is available to us, not by our own works, but simply receiving it by faith, that's chapter 4. And if we do that, the result is we're reconciled to God in chapter 5. So, both Jew and Gentile, Jeramie: So both Jew and Gentile can have access to God, but it's through faith in Christ alone, not by the works of the law. Amen. The righteous shall live by faith. it is thanks be to God that he has made a way for us to know him, to love him, to enjoy him, and to savor him forever. Yeah. So, enjoy Romans. It just is such a great book. It really is. Great. Any concluding comments? Nope. Allen: can have access to God, but it's through faith in Christ alone, not by the works of the law. Amen. The righteous shall live by faith. it is thanks be to God that he has made a way for us to know him, to love him, to enjoy him, and to savor him forever. Yeah. So, enjoy Romans. It just is such a great book. It really is. Great. Any concluding comments? No. Like we always say, Jeramie: Like we always say, keep reading, don't give up. Life gets busy, it gets crazy, but just stay with it. I had a challenging week this last week. Well, you were with me, we were up in Louisville, I was teaching at a workshop there. And you know, it's like when life's hectic and busy, it's easy to let Bible reading drop. And you know, but man, just keep at the word and stick with the program. Work the program. Allen: Keep reading. Don't give up. Life gets busy. It gets crazy. But just stay with it. I had a challenging week this last week. Well, you were with me. We were up in Louisville. I was teaching at a workshop there. And you know, it's like when life's hectic and busy, it's easy to let Bible reading drop. you know, but man, just keep at the word and stick with the program. Work the program. Work the program. That's it. We love you guys. Jeramie: That's it. We love you guys. Keep listening. Keep reading. Go check out those other resources if you'd like ⁓ Bible talk. Get yourself a nice ESV study Bible. I like this ESV. That's Loki becoming my favorite translation. I do ESV for obviously that's what we use in our church here. And it's better for study. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is. And I use CSB for my personal reading. And then you know I do my own translation stuff for sermon work but that's different. Great. Allen: Keep listening, keep reading, go check out those other resources if you'd like ⁓ Bible talk, get yourself a nice ESV study Bible. I like this ESV. That's Loki becoming my favorite translation. do ESV for, obviously that's what we use in our church here. And it's better for study. Yeah, yeah, I think it is. And I use CSB for my personal reading. ⁓ And then, you know, I do my own translation stuff for sermon work, but that's different. Great. Well, check us out on Apple, Spotify. Jeramie: Check us out on Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Share with your friends. Share the good news of the love of Jesus Christ revealed in the gospel. Until next time, guys. 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