Sandra Hueller: This is Flyover Film Country. Hard As Rocky: Hello, welcome back to Flyover Film Country. This is a podcast, a film podcast for all you protozoa and bacteria out there in space. We are making a podcast strictly for you. If you are not protozoa, if you are a complex living being, I'm sorry, you can't listen to this podcast anymore. Nope. Sandra Hueller: Ha ha ha ha! Adrian (the Planet): You're not welcome. Sandra Hueller: Go on now, get it. Adrian (the Planet): Olivia, what is Flower Film Country for real? Sandra Hueller: Fly Over Film Country is a podcast brought to you by people who live in Fly Over Film Country area. Fly Over Country, you know? And we're here today to talk about Project Hell Mary, which I think is a movie for the masses. So, should we just dive right in? Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Hell yeah we are. Mm-hmm. Let's get into it. Adrian (the Planet): I we should dive right in. We're actually, and here's the thing, here's the thing, we're actually gonna dive right in. After I find out, I think this gotta be Isaac who put on, who's not on this episode by the way, who put on some different sounds on this board. I, okay, let's. Sandra Hueller: Dive right in. It was for sure Isaac. Adrian (the Planet): That from the Blazing Saddles. Hold on, I wasn't on this episode, so I gotta... Hold on. This is so long. Why did he put this whole thing in there? Hard As Rocky: I think it's just the whole movie actually. Yeah. You know. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, just started playing Blazing Saddles. Sandra Hueller: Hahaha! Adrian (the Planet): That's what I was waiting for. did he not just put that one line? Hard As Rocky: That's it. That's what we were waiting for. Sandra Hueller: don't know if he could get, like find just the one line. I don't know if he could do it. So. Adrian (the Planet): I guess so. Pistol whip. Okay, nice. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: We've been catching up on Abbott Elementary and there was a camping episode and someone brought a bunch of beans for the kids to cook and I think it was Melissa Goes, have you never seen blazing saddles? This is a terrible idea. Adrian (the Planet): Great show. Sandra Hueller: Uh-huh. Adrian (the Planet): We gotta catch up. I think we only watched the first two seasons maybe of that show Yeah We liked it, you know, but you know anything that's not Vanderpump rules right now. We're not making time for so Sandra Hueller: hahahahah ⁓ Hard As Rocky: ⁓ they're on season five now, so yeah, it's so good. Sandra Hueller: ⁓ it's so good. It's so good. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah, ⁓ rightfully so. But you did make time to drive all the way to Little Rock to see Project Hail Mary. Sandra Hueller: Sure, sure. Adrian (the Planet): you Y'all, y'all, Walter went to the movies. I went to the movie theater. Sandra Hueller: Hey, let's give it up for Walter going to the movies. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: He did it. Adrian (the Planet): I lost my connection for a second, so I don't know how long that went. I did. We went to the mo- I saw it- I can't say I saw it with Walker, because I sat in the row in front of him. I waited too long to buy my ticket. And there were no seats around Walker and all of his in-laws, which is who he saw this move- It's interesting, he was with his in-laws, but not his wife. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Yes. Savannah was in Nashville on a bachelor trip. My sister's bachelor. This is how great of a relationship Savannah and have with our families. You know, she was hanging out with my sister while I was hanging out with her family. So we've got really healthy relationships going on over here. But yeah, I saw it with my brother-in-law and his wife and then my father-in-law and my mother-in-law who Sandra Hueller: Cheers in Nashville. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, she was. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, no. Good crew. Hard As Rocky: are the reason that I read the book, Project Hell Mary, last year because they all passed it around and all loved it so much. So then I ended up getting it passed to me and reading it. Adrian (the Planet): Mm-hmm. Walker you are the reason that I read the book because you kept talking about it and I was like yes, I need to read it right now I the movie was gonna come out at some time this year and then last week I saw or I think Walker you had texted me like I just got tickets to see Like I got to see it in IMAX on Saturday and I was like, ⁓ I did not I don't know that was coming out that soon So I better start this book. I think I started the book Wednesday night of last week and I think I read Hard As Rocky: Right. Yeah. Yeah Sandra Hueller: haha You marathoned it. Adrian (the Planet): Girl almost said brother cuz I'm you same brother girl. I sister Brother is gender neutral. Let we need to be real about that. That's so true Uh-huh Dude is the most gender neutral out of all of them, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I so I started the book Wednesday night and I Wasn't nervous about it cuz Walker told me he read the book in like two days and so I was like Sandra Hueller: That's gender neutral. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Bro and dude are gender neutral. I just, that's just how I see it. So gender neutral. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): I was like, if Walker can do it, I can do it. Alright. So, I... I think he's illiterate. ⁓ Hard As Rocky: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Right. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, because Walker can barely read, right? He just memorized a bunch of words. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that what reading is? Sandra Hueller: Who's to say? Adrian (the Planet): Who's to say? We don't know. So, started Wednesday night. When I say started, I I read like four pages and then fell asleep because it was really late when I started it. And I... Yeah. Yeah, basically. And then I finished the book three hours before our movie started on Saturday. Like, like, you thought marathon did, like I got it done. And I gotta say, Sandra Hueller: It was 902. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): So happy that I read the book before I saw the movie, even happier that I finished it three hours before the movie. It could not have been more fresh on my brain. And so like, I was almost like shaking with anticipation, like during the 30 minutes of trailers they showed before the movie, I was like, please, please I have to see Rocky. Cause I didn't want, I didn't watch any trailers for this movie. I just read the book. Sandra Hueller: hahahaha Hard As Rocky: Ha ha. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): I saw a couple of like stills like screenshots, you know from like the hype around it, but didn't see I did not know what this movie was even going to look like and I'm like I just I Need to get into this but no we have to sit through 30 minutes of trailers Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm, and then an AMC ad and then a coke ad and then another AMC ad and then the IMAX countdown Adrian (the Planet): And Netflix just announced they're raising their prices for the second time this year. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Which is simp- You know what? It's related. This is just- Everything's just getting worse and we're paying more money for those things that are getting worse. ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Things are great. Hard As Rocky: It's- Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: except movies are pretty good right now. Adrian (the Planet): Project Hail Mary Movies are really good and I like so I you know, you'll know me like I I do not like watching movie trailers Because I like to go I'm talking way too much. I've been on the I've missed y'all I've been on this I've been on the show in a while. I know it's good to be here. Sorry. I got a lot of thoughts to get out. Do not like to watch movie trailers, especially for movies that I know I want to see because I just like to go in as blind as possible ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Hey, it's good to hear your voice, man. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): One exception has always been Spider-Man. And I even watched that stupid like two second video clips that they were drip feeding to us. I watched them. Because I anything Spider-Man. Yeah. I'm tapping my arm. Yeah. I'm scratching my neck like, hey, you'll get any one of those Spider-Man clips. And so obviously I watched I think what y'all sent in the group chat the day the trailer officially dropped last week. Sandra Hueller: ⁓ Like a drug addict you're just like I just need I just need a little hit yeah You got anymore Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): and I was on my way to drop my daughter off at daycare. Of course I put that on my phone and let it play as I was driving that morning. Watched it again when I got to my office that day. And then they played the trailer, because they played every trailer that's ever existed before we saw Project Hail Mary on Saturday night. So, but we saw it on IMAX, which was we need to talk, we'll talk about the IMAX experience. So it means the trailer, the Spider-Man trailer played an IMAX. And I got even more excited for the new Spider-Man movie. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Obviously. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): I had also and I didn't mean to watch the Dune trailer doing part three because that was I definitely want to see them theaters I don't want to see trailers for it, but Dear lord does that look so good Seeing the trailer and then I'm like I'm sweating watching that ⁓ And then right after that right after the Dune 3 trailer They played the trailer for Mandalorian and Grogu and it made it look like a theme park ride. So Sorry Star Wars Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): They played the Dune trailer right before you and it made you look like ass. So, ⁓ unfortunate for ⁓ our boy Pedro and the little baby Yoda. So that was everything leading up to me seeing the movie and I will let y'all talk. Sandra Hueller: You know? I gonna say, think Pedro's okay. He's probably making a co-billion dollars off of, he's doing fine. He's doing fine. So, ⁓ what do we even start with this movie? Hard As Rocky: Yeah, he's okay. Adrian (the Planet): Pedro's great, no he... He's doing fine. Well Olivia, you didn't have AC in your theater. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: I did have AC in the theater and then I also came home to my AC not working at my house. And that was Saturday. We were recording this on a Thursday. I finally have AC as of like three hours ago. So thank you. Yeah, yeah. So thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hard As Rocky: Let's give it up for Olivia. Adrian (the Planet): Let's go. Let's go. I just think- I think God wanted to make you feel like you were in the vacuum of space, just like Ryan Gosling. Hard As Rocky: Mmm. You think space is warm? Sandra Hueller: Is that what he wants? Adrian (the Planet): I think... Space just feels like you don't have AC. Everything else is normal, I think. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: That's an interesting theory, I guess. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Adrian (the Planet): It looks like a good time up there. Sandra Hueller: Nothing about space feels appealing to me. I don't understand why people want to go there. Adrian (the Planet): No, I. How many times when y'all are watching this movie and or reading the book were you like, ⁓ I would die within 10 minutes of waking up from that coma. Hard As Rocky: Yeah, like a million times Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Ssss, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Dude, so many times you're like, ⁓ I'm so glad they didn't send me in this fictional story. As if this ever happened in real life, they would pick me anyway. As if I would be like, no, I can't, yeah, I just, don't want to be the hero. I'm like, no, you're literally too much of a dumb ass for us to send you in space. Like you will doom the human race. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Hahaha You weren't even in our top 50%. Like, like you're bottom of the barrel. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, don't worry dog. You're gonna be freezing in the ice with the rest of us Hard As Rocky: you Sandra Hueller: Yeah, you're not you're not helping with this. Yeah. What? No, I didn't read the book. ⁓ Honestly, this is going to be kind of a hot take for a lot of people, I think. I have gotten to the point where I don't even really care that much to read the book before I see the movie, because every time I do that, I am thoroughly disappointed by the film adaptation. So maybe not every time. That's a little dramatic. Adrian (the Planet): Olivia do did you read the book? That's fun. Okay, okay, okay. That's so fair. No, no, no. That's valid. No, no. Very valid. And, Walker, you might be saying what I'm about to say, but go ahead. Hard As Rocky: very fair. Sandra Hueller: But a lot. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Well, I was going to say that I totally understand that and it's like I Was not disappointed in this at all having read the book and having loved the book. Yeah, but it is like Sandra Hueller: Yeah, and that's what I've heard. Yeah, everyone I know who had read the book prior to seeing the movie said that this is a great adaptation. I went with three of my friends and one of them, my friend Tyler, had read the book and he said it's the best film adaptation of a book he's ever seen. And he started reading the book again, like, I think that same night we saw it. Adrian (the Planet): Yes. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. I get it. I I was gonna say there's obviously like some stuff in the book and I'm sure we'll bring it up and talk about it that would have been really cool to see on Screen and the book talks a lot more about The science like there's a lot of science in the book. That's not in the movie. Thankfully we'll make for probably a pretty boring movie I'm gonna be honest if there was as much science that's in the book in the movie Adrian (the Planet): That's crazy. Yeah, no, that's fair. Yeah, go ahead, Walker. Sandra Hueller: Yeah Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Hahaha Hard As Rocky: But yeah, adaptation wise, this is top, top, top, top tier. I mean, it's amazing. And some of the moments that they're able to pull off that I, when I was reading it and knowing they're making a movie, I was just already thinking, I don't know how they're gonna do it. And they did it every single time. Every single time they did it. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, yeah I There were you know Walker you and I were like talking about a little bit in the parking lot afterward but and as we might have already said this but the thing like You you know one can ever do a one-to-one book to film adaptation. They're two different mediums You have to change some things for it to work. And and I think I can't think of really any changes Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): That they made from book to movie this time that I disagreed with like every change they made I was like, yep, like they had to do that ⁓ like just for example, know Olivia in the book the ⁓ Grace has a lot it's it's first person ⁓ and it's a lot of it is his like inner monologue with himself like he he talks to himself a lot obviously because especially before it not with Rocky or anybody else like Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): He's doing the science stuff in his head, doing the calculations. ⁓ And then, so there's a lot of exposition that happens just in his head. And so in the movie, ⁓ the way that, was like, cause that was one thing Walker, was like, how are they gonna do this? Like, how are they gonna like, not even about the science, but just about like his thought process and like how he like is handling things. ⁓ And they just like, well, those have him do a video log. We'll have him talking to a camera and that'll be like. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): The video log was not in the books at all like that is not anything he did but as soon as he did that I was like fan perfect solution like great because like that gives you so much of his inner monologue and it helps, you know kind of round out more of like his like sense of humor and stuff especially like when he's complaining, you know complaining about Rocky being a root like being a bad roommate Like so funny like the way like it felt so real but that wasn't in the book and I was totally fine with that change because it gave Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): a lot more character and personality to both of those characters and just like is it was just so anyway, I don't want to I don't want to glaze out of order here because this whole episode will be just be glazing So I will I will stick with it And I'll shut up what do y'all Walker did you have do you agree or disagree with that? Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Ha ha ha. Yeah, no, I totally I think I think that was the best way to do it like i'm glad they didn't go the voiceover route like I think that It made it. Yeah, it would not have worked as well. This was a lot more effective and yeah, I I think it's funny though that the What is the lady's name who's in charge of project? mary I cannot so strat in the book would not have allowed for a video camera to be on the thing because there is like a whole part of the book where they're talking about Adrian (the Planet): That would not have worked. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm, I agree. Adrian (the Planet): strat. Hard As Rocky: ⁓ we should add this and she's like that is not a hundred percent necessary to their mission that will not go on like we are not wasting any weight on stuff like this so it is like Obviously is necessary for the movie, but I was thinking about that how like in the book she would have been like Don't give a shit not doing that Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was a great change. And there's a couple of things that kind of changed about Strat as well, like the karaoke scene was not in the book, but an amazing addition to the movie. Sandra Hueller: Sure. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Which, yeah, so that scene also not in the script. From what I've understood is that the cast heard the actress singing in her dressing room and was like, you should sing in the karaoke scene. And the director's asked her to and she said, okay, I will. I just have to pick the song. And so they should. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Amazing song choice too. Hard As Rocky: They shot that scene not knowing if they would even be able to get the rights for the song. And it was like towards the end of the day too. So I think they only got like a take or two of it, they said. Like, so it's really, and that scene is such, like it is so important, I think in that part of the movie and so good. And the song is perfect. Like it's crazy how stuff just works sometimes, like creatively how it just. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: it finds, that's like the ma- some of the magic stuff that just finds its way in. It's awesome. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. And the song choice, she's sorry. Go ahead, Olivia. Sandra Hueller: Which I... I was gonna say, I think that's just like the whole of this movie is like everything just works. know, everything in this movie just works. Like James Ortiz, who is the main puppeteer, he wasn't originally going to do the voice. They were gonna try to figure out who was gonna do the voice for Rocky. Well, he ended up just doing it because he was so good at it and he and... Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: And Ryan Gosling had such great chemistry that they were just like, let's just have you do the voice, right? So yeah, Walter, you were gonna say something about the song choice. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. No, that's awesome. No, great, great note to Olivia. And we will definitely spend a lot of time talking about Rocky in just a minute. I just want to say like the song choice, like that Harry Styles song also just thematically fit perfect for the movie and that moment in the movie. Like it almost makes you wish it was in the book, you know, like, like, I don't know how they would do it. It wouldn't have worked really well in the book, but amazing addition to the movie. And correct me. Was that right after? Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Right. Right. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): the scene with the two of them on the flight deck, like just Grace and Stratt. They had like a moment up there, yeah. Just a really great like, the dynamics of the movie, the push and pull between like drama, humor, exposition, ⁓ intensity, just the dynamics of that was just perfectly executed from beat to beat, from scene to scene, shot to shot, like it- Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Everybody was just in their bag. Like I just it is so I feel like it is so rare to see a movie like that where it's like The as soon as you go from one scene to the next you're like, yep, that was perfect. Yep. Perfect. Yep. Yep. And even like having read the book like knowing the story and everything like still managing to surprise me with things like just Hard As Rocky: I know. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah, there's so much. think we'll get it. I want to get into something that we can probably, we could talk about for the rest of the episode, honestly. But one of the things that's so effective in this movie that you notice right off the bat is, cause this movie is told in two different times because when Grace first wakes up, you know, he doesn't remember why he's there. He doesn't know what's going on. So we're slowly getting pieces of the past and learning why he's there. And so, in shooting this and in the cinematography, their decision to do space in the full screen aspect ratio and then all the earth pass stuff in widescreen is just like, Sinners last year was an amazing like switching aspect ratio. This to me was like, ⁓ this is almost like, this is such an effective way to do that and like consistently and help it and assist in telling your story that it made me like want to do it now. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: like figure out a way to make a film to do this, like, cause it was so good. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: And also when they would cut back and forth, when they would cut to the flashback scenes or him on earth, the camera would tilt up as if he was like kind of coming up and like waking up. I thought it was so good. It was subtle, it was just great, great choices. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yes, yeah. Yeah. There's something else really cool too about those transition shots between space and then back on earth where they said that the directors were talking to Mr. Fraser himself saying like we need something to signal that transition a little bit more. And I think what they said he did is they were like, they had shot the movie and then they projected it onto a screen and then he was shooting, recording the movie and moving pieces of glass in front of the lens to get those really long stretches of light at points. kind of like when it was tilting, doing that to signal that transition even more, which is like, he loves doing stuff like that. Like, and honestly. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, that's awesome. Sandra Hueller: Hmm... Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): that kicks ass. Greg Frazier's my goat. like, I just, don't think he can do any wrong. Every single shot was just phenomenally lit, composed. If there was movement, it was perfect. Walker, we talked after the movie about how like there was a lot of handheld, even like when they were in space, ⁓ which is not something you typically see like in something like this. ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): And it was just so well done. Hard As Rocky: And it's really impressive too to do a movie that takes place mostly in space, but there's still so much practical stuff in this movie. Like a lot of the sets for the ship are like practical and built like Rocky is like, I think they said 50 % of the time Rocky is on screen. It is a hundred percent a puppet. Like that's crazy. And like I, the clips of him in the ball, I've like seen the back, the behind the scenes, like they, Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Mm-hmm. That is crazy. Hard As Rocky: built ⁓ the ball with like a little bar that you can push and roll. And so the guy that voices Rocky in is his main puppeteer as well. He's like running around pushing, like yelling the lines out, you know, when he's talking about how dirty the ship is and like how he needs to clean up. And it's just amazing the practical stuff and the scene I could go on and on, but the scene that really like is amazing to me that is even partly practical is the fishing scene. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: above Adrian, which Adrian is obviously incredibly beautiful. It's such a great part in the movie. But when they do the scene and it's in IR, it's like we see all that red light. Like they shot that. They removed the IR sensor from an Alexa 65 and had a like chicken wire cage around Ryan Reynolds in a space suit with IR lights everywhere. Like they shot that shit. Like that is not... Guy in Gosling, sorry. My bad. I would, sorry. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Dude. ryan gosselin Don't do not act like Ryan Reynolds could have played this role Hard As Rocky: Sorry, no, he couldn't have, he couldn't have. Yeah. I had a friend say something interesting to me yesterday. He said that he thinks that Ryan, like, because of after Hail Mary and everything, he's like, I think Ryan Gosling is what we thought Ryan Reynolds was five years ago. Like Ryan Gosling is actually that. And we figured out Ryan Reynolds isn't. Sandra Hueller: He wishes. Adrian (the Planet): it he can never do it Sandra Hueller: He could never do it. Mmm... Mmm... Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, I think I think Barbie and project Hail Mary two very similar movies I've shown has shown what he could do. Well, I think it was Maybe it was one of the directors when they were talking about how they had cast Gosling for they were like We couldn't think of any other actor who would have the range to do everything that we would need This character to do in a movie like this like and I think they're right. Like I can't think of anybody else Hard As Rocky: They're exactly the same. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): um, he just has just the perfect charisma for who Dr. Grace is supposed to be like obviously I already knew Who was playing grace in the movie when I was reading the book? But even I was reading the book it was like so easy to imagine ryan gosselin doing all this stuff and like Being the kind of like dorky scientist middle school science teacher, but then also like Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): being shoved into an astronaut role and making the best of it. And then also seeing in the flashback scenes on Earth where he's interacting with these world leaders and other scientists, he's so likable. And I'm like, he's just being Ryan Gosling right now and it fits so well. He's making everybody laugh at these big conference tables and ⁓ it's just. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Right. Adrian (the Planet): Just incredible. Just amazing performances all around, both from, I'm blanking on the guy who played Rocky, you said his name earlier. ⁓ Thank you. Of course, Ryan Gosling, ⁓ and then who else? Sandra Huler, we talked about a strat. I want to shout out Lionel Boyce as Carl, who I don't, Walker, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really remember him being like a big player in the book. I'm gonna see if it was even the book at all, yeah. Sandra Hueller: James Ruetties. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Nope, not at all. And he what? Yeah. Sandra Hueller: He wasn't supposed to be. He wasn't supposed to be in the movie either, but he and Ryan Gosling had such great chemistry that they ended up adding more scenes with him. So. Hard As Rocky: Right, yeah, I think I saw the Home Depot scene between them is totally improv, just like they love the relationship between them, or like, let's go do this. Adrian (the Planet): great edition. Sandra Hueller: Uh-huh. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, so good, so good. ⁓ Love that. We had the AT &T girl ⁓ as the Russian astronaut. ⁓ She's a great actress. She was in an episode or two of ⁓ Silicon Valley, that HBO comedy. It's a few years old at this point, but she played somebody's girlfriend. was really funny in that too, so good to see her getting more roles. ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: You ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): I like, know, the yowl in the book was described as very stoic ⁓ and all that. They made him little more charismatic and personable in the movie, which I think was a totally fine change. We needed more life in the flashback scenes, so I'm glad that they did that. ⁓ There wasn't, it was not like a big cast. He had a lot of extras, of course, but like as far as like important, like speaking roles and all that, not that many. So. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: It's not big cast. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): They did a good job with what they had. Hard As Rocky: Olivia, feel like Walter and I have been yapping a lot. Adrian (the Planet): I know. Sandra Hueller: No, here's deal. I have really enjoyed listening to you guys talk about it. ⁓ One, it feels like it's been forever since we've recorded in general, but especially with Waltz on here. And so it's just been really nice. I don't know how much more I have to add that you guys haven't already said. mean, for me, as someone who didn't read the book beforehand, I... Adrian (the Planet): I know. Hard As Rocky: I know. Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: wasn't really sure what to expect. And so going in, all I knew was they send him up into space and at some point he meets an alien. And that's all I really knew. I didn't know where it was going to go. I didn't know why they were sending him into space other than that, you know, the planet is dying. And so, so I wasn't really sure what to expect, but Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: What has been so cool and what was really cool to see it was like we went to the Dolby Theater here in Oklahoma City and it was like a Saturday afternoon. I think we went to like a 330 showing or something like 315 and it was packed. mean, it was full. And so that was really cool to see that everyone is wanting to go see this. And I was talking about this earlier with someone that this is probably the most Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: family friendly movie in the sense of like pretty much anyone can go see this and and at least appreciate it. Maybe maybe not love it but I think like this is a movie that can be enjoyed by the whole family which is really cool because it's not you know it's not a Disney film it's not a part of any previous IP which is which is really awesome to see that like obviously it's an adaptation but I think that that Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: people want to see more interesting things. I think like book adaptations are always, always really, or can be really interesting. They always don't, they don't always land, right? Like that's, that's not always going to happen. But, like that is good source material that I think is often overlooked because, we have the Marvel franchise and, and Star Wars universe and all this stuff. And it's like, but we can also adapt other, other things. So, ⁓ yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think it's been, it's interesting. I think that's one part of the movie that I really appreciate is that, cause reading the book, my mind does not go to like, ⁓ this is like a great movie for a family to go watch. But watching the movie, it 100 % is. And I think they make some changes to definitely like push the movie that way. Like I think Rocky's probably supposed to be a little bit bigger than he actually is in the movie. Like he's supposed to, yeah, a little bit scarier. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): And it may be like little bit scarier looking too. Hard As Rocky: And there's like some stuff, like the whole eating thing in the book is kind of the exact opposite of the way it is in the movie, because it's really funny in the movie. But in the book, Rocky does not want Grace to see him eat because I think he understands that it's like gross and like they think it's gross and weird. Yeah. So like, and Grace. Adrian (the Planet): Like terrifying. Yeah, and the and the the book the book describes it in great detail Like it is not like cut away like it like in the movie you get like barely see the corner of it a silhouette. Yeah Sandra Hueller: Hahaha Hard As Rocky: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's one of the things that's cut from the movie that I understand, but like I would have loved to see is the scene where Rocky saves Grace and gets really hurt. After that, essentially Grace returns the favor. puts rocky like he is the person who puts rocky back into his like little pipe thing that rocky has built around the Hail Mary and Burns his lungs like with all the toxic fumes that are coming out like when he opens it and like it's so hot like it's so hot in there and there's a lot of like the pressure is really different so like he kind of like messes himself up again trying to save rocky and then he does all these things that he's like Sandra Hueller: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: trying to help him and then you later figure out that he actually almost killed Rocky but it's okay. Yeah there's like a bunch of it looks like ash on Rocky's like on his back and Grace like blows it out with a vacuum and once Rocky comes back he's like yeah that was like what was healing me and you like got rid of it. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: ⁓ no. ⁓ huh. ⁓ huh. Adrian (the Planet): He's basically like a scabs like it was like, know, like like yeah But it was just like there were a few like Really? Like funny quirky moments between the two of them that just didn't make it into the movie, which is for time reasons You know, it was already two and a half hours long. There's no way they could have done it all and But they definitely caught the spirit of it Sandra Hueller: Yeah, ⁓ no. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: ⁓ for sure. Yeah. And I think that's fine. Like I'm fine with this being a little bit more, ⁓ a little bit more for families. I mean, in the book, Olivia, they nuke Antarctica to drop ice into the ocean to like increase global warming. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I did see that. I saw people talk about that. They... Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): would have been an incredible scene if they had shot it and put it it would have been awesome but Hard As Rocky: Can someone just give Greg Fraser like a million dollars to just shoot that scene? Just that scene, like just for us? Sandra Hueller: Sure. Adrian (the Planet): Just to do that one scene, yeah. There was another, I remember texting Walker, I texted Walker a few times as I was reading the book, just to, you know, as I was coming across new things. And one of them was the other two astronauts who were supposed to be on it, Dubois and, no, Dubois and one of the other scientists, well, a lady, I remember her name. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Hmm Adrian (the Planet): They were like It one of the flashback scenes where grace is supposed to be teaching them about science And so it's like a little classroom setting. It's like literally just like the Hard As Rocky: Yeah, it's the first science officer and the backup one, right? It's both of them, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a man and a woman and they're both really like Very straightforward and very dry and so they're you know, so grace about to start the lesson in Dubois He goes like dr. Grace just so you're aware. ⁓ Dr Shapiro and I have begun a sexual relationship and Like and there's like it's like two pages long of like grace being so like caught off guard and he's like Okay, you don't have to tell me these things and he's like it Sandra Hueller: Ahahahahah! Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): We thought a prudent that you would know and like and they just like they like they don't go into detail about like the sexual stuff But like they keep talking they keep bringing it up And at one point like like they're both in there and like Dubois turns around to his now girlfriend It was like I was wondering we have ten minutes after this lesson Would you like to go have sexual intercourse in the closet like and then dr. Shapiro's like yes, that sounds prudent to me like that's really really funny, but I'm like Hard As Rocky: You Sandra Hueller: You Adrian (the Planet): It's fine that they cut it in the movie because like they want, you know, they want to keep it family friendly. Sandra Hueller: Sure, sure. There's definitely the implication, right? Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yes, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yes, it shows it does show those two characters kind of like cuddling up together at some point like so they do still have that in there ⁓ and there's a couple like In the book grace also even in his inner monologue does not cuss ⁓ And so of course they carried that over to the movie There are a couple other characters who do cuss in in the book and they left it out in the movie It was totally fine. And I think like I saw somebody said this online that Sandra Hueller: ⁓ huh. Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Watching project Hail Mary felt they're watching a live-action Pixar movie like a Wally kind of thing or something and I'm like that's really accurate like that like in a good way, know, like it like in a classic Pixar kind of way Sandra Hueller: Hmm. Mm hmm. Well, so, okay. Yeah, I'm glad that you said that because I want to ask you guys this question or I mean, bring it up. I don't know if it's if it's actually a question. I'm trying to formulate that thought as I'm talking, which is probably not great, but whatever. I also do it in therapy with clients, so it happens. ⁓ So something that like my my friends and I were talking about was was the Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: the optimism and the hopefulness that this film has and how, how like refreshing that is. And it kind of has a similar feel to how people were feeling post Superman last year. And so for you guys, like, and obviously like we are all pretty aware of like what's going on in the world and have all of our thoughts and feelings about all that. And so what is, what is that like for you guys to go into this movie? Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: kind of forget everything for as much as one can for two and a half hours and watch this very hopeful and optimistic film that is ⁓ really about the betterment of man, right? ⁓ What was that like for you guys? Or do you guys feel like, was that your takeaway? Thoughts. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Go for it Walker, I have to sneeze. Hard As Rocky: Okay, yeah, think, salud. Yeah, I mean, I think it was great. I think one of the reasons that this movie is so successful with an adaptation is because you feel, like I felt the same way I felt finishing this book as I did like when I finished the movie. Like it gave me that same feeling of hope and optimism. And I think that is one, that's like one of the things I think in, Sandra Hueller: Salud. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: I have the Martian, I haven't read it, which is written by the same guy that wrote Project Tell Mary, but I have seen the movie. And I think that that movie gives a similar feeling to showing people humanity coming together to do something important and do something really cool. And sadly, we don't see a lot of that right now. It feels like we're incredibly divided. And so think this movie, Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: I think it came out at the right time too. I think it strikes a chord with everyone to see like, you know, uh, see the goss and then this, uh, rock creature that like don't even speak, you know, real like they're not even close to speaking the same language. Like Rocky speaks in some harmonic, melodious language and they still figure out, you know, how to communicate and how to work together to solve this problem for the betterment of both of their like, Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: planets and then it's yeah it's just you feel so good watching this movie and the you know the moment towards the end of the movie when grace has to make the decision do I go back home or do I go save Rocky and I think that the movie captures the same way I felt in the book like there was even though he might have thought about it there really was no other there was he was never not gonna go save Rocky Like that was never not gonna happen. And that is just so powerful and so inspiring. so yeah, we need more Hope Corps. Let's get more Hope Corps movies. Like, let's do it. Sandra Hueller: Right, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, I think I mean I largely just kind of Felt around Bible study right now when I say I'm gonna echo what Walker said I I'll start my little silica here with reading a text that might so my dad I sent y'all screenshot of what Craig's you know what he was telling me over over text and I hope he's listening to this episode ⁓ But you he read the book he's a big reader, know, spent like loves like science fiction stuff and all that so Hard As Rocky: hahahaha ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Hahaha. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): He read the book a few years ago. And so he was also excited to see the movie. He saw it with my mom who did not read the book, but they still enjoyed it. And so my dad texted me this about the movie. said, Andy Weir, the author of the book, told a story about two beings who gave their lives to save creation. And I love how the movie leaned into grace being ashamed of being forced into being a hero, which is our layers we haven't talked about yet. And then he said, Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): The whole arc of the movie was about how anyone can save a life and I think like that is such a perfect summation of I guess just the overarching theme of the whole thing was you know these two very different beings grace and rocky both being Forced into doing something that they didn't really volunteer to in the first place like rocky was one of 23 iridians on their ship Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): He's not even like a scientist. He's an engineer. And so he got forced he's like he's the he is the only one that his planet his entire Civilization is counting on to save them and same for grace and but they're two cultures or two societies or two civilizations are extremely different and I think I'm sitting outside and the policy is me so bad, dude Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Thanks for watching! Sandra Hueller: You Adrian (the Planet): ⁓ You see like in the book There's like a little bit of fear and you see in the movie too when they first meet each other because they just don't know anything about each other ⁓ But what I like and it's the same in the book and the movie they didn't waste time with the fear part of it They immediately got to how do we bridge this gap? We can't even breathe the same air, but how do we come together? How do we communicate with each other? Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Like form a strong bond ⁓ I know nothing about your planet. You know nothing about mine, but damn it We're gonna do this together and save everybody like sacrificing themselves at different times to do so for each other ⁓ and I think like and you see the flashbacks on earth to like they could have shown a lot of the wars or the famines or like all the other social implications Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): That would come along with like a cataclysmic event like this ⁓ And they they don't show it in the book they do talk about a lot more in the book and Those parts are scary to read because it feels like it's not far like there's no Cataclysmic cosmic event happening in our real world right now because we don't need one for us to not yet. Yeah Yeah abundance mindset, right? ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Not yet. Growth mentality. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, that's right. Adrian (the Planet): But we don't need cosmic events to divide, like we're already like so driven by fear of each other, of the other, of anybody who's different from us and that drives division. And so even in the flashbacks on Earth, you have all these countries, all these civilizations putting everything aside and like coming together and like laughing together in the face of impending doom. And so... Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, I think Olivia it's a great point about how it's just like it's just a movie full of hope ⁓ I love spring and Sandra Hueller: He's dying. Hard As Rocky: Yeah, Sandra Hueller: You Adrian (the Planet): A movie like this could be such a bummer, right? Like the story like this could be such a bummer. It could be a horror, could be a thriller, it could be a tragedy. ⁓ Doesn't mean it would be a bad story, but like... Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Creating a story like this and taking the opportunity to make it so encouraging and make it so hey, this is possible We don't need that. We don't need to have ⁓ Astrophage eating the Sun to bring people together you see how Rocky and grace can like not be afraid of each other and like it's just It is it's it's very Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Right. Hard As Rocky: Right. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): applicable to I feel like our lives right now where You see so many people look at somebody with a different color skin or who speaks a different language or lives a different life than you and immediately get afraid of them and That's when you start fighting ⁓ and it like it's our like it's our default now, you know, like and it doesn't have to be that way and and like I just Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Right. I think it's an important, like I think when I said it came out at the right time too, I think another thing, and I hope it's a lesson that people who are writing stories and telling stories can take from this movie and from this book too, you can write an amazing, compelling story where no one, like none of the important characters have to die. and it can still be really good and really compelling and really emotional. And I think, I, like, I don't think this movie or this book would be better or have affected me more emotionally if Grace or Rocky died at some point during the story, sacrificed themselves or something. Like it wouldn't be. And I think so often now, you know, I, I'm. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: This is so forefront on my mind, because I literally saw a quote from the creator of The Boys today complaining about the ending of Stranger Things and complaining about that specifically, like no one died. And it's like, you can... Sandra Hueller: That's crazy. was, as you were talking, I was just thinking about stranger things. Hard As Rocky: Right well and you know it's like yeah I have issues with the way that stranger things ended and we there's a lot of stuff that goes into it but like complaining that no one died is such a silly complaint because that you can there are so many different ways to tell an effective and emotionally compelling story without you know death and fear being the main driver of it like This movie is a perfect example of that. Like I cried twice during this movie and like neither, you know. ⁓ Sandra Hueller: ⁓ I cried so many more times than that. I cried a lot. I cried so much. Adrian (the Planet): hahahaha Hard As Rocky: Should we go through the points? Do we need to go? Adrian (the Planet): I almost shed a tear during the IR scene. Like, wasn't even like, it was just so beautiful. Like, it was just so cool looking. Sandra Hueller: But maybe... Hard As Rocky: It was beautiful. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: I'll admit when Rocky, when he figures out Rocky has a mate, I don't know why it got me so good, but he figures out Rocky has a mate, and he's like, how long have you been together? ⁓ 186 years, and he's like, ⁓ that's a long time, and Rocky says, not long enough. I was like. Sandra Hueller: It got me. That got me. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: No, it also got me too. So it was, I was like, man, is that true love? It has to be, right? Like, I don't know. Hard As Rocky: fruit Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Hard As Rocky: I think so, between two rocks. Adrian (the Planet): Well, I don't know. can't remember if Rocky said this in the movie, but in the book when they were talking, when they're having that conversation, Rocky said, cause he's been away from his planet for so long. He goes like, Oh, Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's something I want to talk about about that too that I do wish they said that movie, but we'll talk in a second. Adrian (the Planet): Okay, well, so I don't want to not to spoil what you might say, but Rocky Rocky says Well, they might have a different mate by now because I've been gone for so long Hard As Rocky: Yeah, no, go ahead, go ahead. Right. That not what I was going to say. I think I that's I forgot about that honestly. Sad. Don't look at me. I'm crying. But. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, it's not in the movie, that's not in the movie. Adrian (the Planet): But even in the book they do reunite, in that ending scene, Rocky talks about his mate, they're back, they waited for Rocky. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is it is pointed out at some point in the book that rocky has been There there's there's a couple things I want to talk about here But it's pointing out in the book that rocky has been there so long that when grace would look up at the sky as a kid that rocky was already out there waiting for him which like Yeah, that's crazy but also I think Sandra Hueller: Ugh. Hard As Rocky: So Craig mentioned Andy Weir, I think there's a lot, Andy Weir is a really, really interesting author because he was a scientist before, like his full-time job for like, and he's older too, like he's not a young man. So he was a scientist, right, he was a scientist for a long time, and then he started writing books. Adrian (the Planet): No. No, he's not a spring chicken. Hard As Rocky: And so I think like he just thinks about stuff in a really interesting way. And so the idea that Rocky and the Iridians don't know about radiation is super interesting. And it's like something I would never think about, but him as a scientist would think about. And then also, I don't think they really point this out in the movie, but it's pointed out in the book, the reason that Rocky has so much extra fuel. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Hard As Rocky: is because the Iridians don't know anything about relativity. They do say that in the movie. But so they calculated how much time it would take to get there on their planet. But when you're actually in space and you're moving at almost the speed of light, it doesn't take that much time. You it takes a lot less time actually for them. So Rocky is able to give the fuel to grace because the Iridians don't know about relativity at all. And so it's kind of interesting that like, Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. okay. Hard As Rocky: Kind of the reason that the rest of the people on the ship part of the reason the rest of the people on the ship died is also the reason that he was able to, you know, fix Grace's problem. It's really, yeah, there's so much going on there. And then the, you know, the only reason Rocky survived is cause he was his workshop was beneath the fuel line. So the astrophage was blocking the radiation from him and yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Just so many, like... Hard As Rocky: Andy we're smart. That's what I'm saying. That's all that's all I want to say. Andy we're smart. Amaze amaze amaze. Sandra Hueller: Amaze. Adrian (the Planet): Amaze, amaze. Every page of the book, like 90 % of it, I'm like, how did you come up with that? I don't, like, there's so many layers and moving parts, like with the science and the narrative and the characters and like, yeah, like he has a very specific type of brain to be like, to be able to do what he does. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. ⁓ Uh-huh. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: See, this is another reason why I'm like almost hesitant to read the book. I don't know if I'm smart enough to read it. Hard As Rocky: No you are, trust me, trust me. Adrian (the Planet): No, no, let me say this. Let me say this, Olivia, not a STEM guy right here, okay? Like, but I do not, my brain is not wired for that. And that's why I know I do not have to worry about NASA ever forcing me to go into space to save humanity. They would, I think they would shoot me in the head first. So the best part about the book is how Andy Weir made the protagonist, not only an incredibly smart scientist, but also a middle school science teacher. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Hahaha! Hard As Rocky: Bye. Adrian (the Planet): so with every time it gets like really in depth with the science because he gives numbers he gives like theories like all of this because the very next sentence or least the very next paragraph is Grace's inner monologue breaking it down as if he's talking to middle schoolers and so it like it's brilliant like it's so good because like I got to the point about halfway through like I just like I'm gonna kind of skim through the numbers part and because I know the very next sentence is gonna like tell me exactly what's going on and it like Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: Hmm... Yeah. ⁓ Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): I felt like one of Grace's students, honestly. I'm like, okay, I'm tracking, I got you, I got you. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. ⁓ Adrian (the Planet): So yeah, I wouldn't worry about I still think you should read the book ⁓ Don't don't don't worry about not understanding it because Andy Weir's gotcha Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. I would love to talk a little bit about the ending of this movie, specifically the revelation. And I would love to hear from you, about if you saw this coming or anything like that. Grace was not willing. He was not a willing participant in this. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. So that I wasn't when I watch movies, I'm not sitting there trying to go, what's the end of this movie? Like, how is this going to end? Right. Because I just think that takes the fun of it out of it. I like to see the movie unfold in front of me. And so so I wasn't sitting there going like he wanted to do this or he didn't want to do this. But when it was revealed that he was really forced into this role and Hard As Rocky: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: was very reluctant, which is probably an understatement. It was a little surprising, but not entirely. I think in hindsight, there's a lot of foreshadowing to it because he talks about like, you know, like he's just a middle school science teacher. This is what other people are doing. And, you know, I'm just here to like tell you guys the science behind all of it. I don't need to like, you know. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: do any of the training stuff. ⁓ But I also think like, Strat believed in him, right? And she also was like, you are my only option. But she also believed in him and thought he could in fact do it. And I think that the message there is like, we can still do, we can do things, great things. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: even if we don't believe in ourselves, if other people are believing in us, that sometimes is enough. so I was a little surprised, but not necessarily like just a whole lot, you know? But it was interesting to see that reveal and be like, oh, okay, so he did not want to do this. He's kind of forced into this position of being the one to be the hero to save. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: save Earth. ⁓ But it kind of reminds me of like, you know, kind of like the message of Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse is anyone can wear the mask, right? And that's sort of kind what I feel like this is what it's getting at is like, you know, anyone can be put in this position. If you've got people who believe in you and support you, you can do it too. And of course, that makes sense, right? Lord and Miller also Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: made Spider-Verse into the Spider-Verse. And so that seems to be kind of a core thing for them, which is great. I love that. Again, the Hope core is, I think, needed. Hard As Rocky: Right. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, and they also did the Lego movie another recent episode of ours Sandra Hueller: so Also, yeah, yeah. Hard As Rocky: And what like, clouded the chance of meatballs and 21 and 22 jump street, right? Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): They're cooking. ⁓ and, well, they only produced it, but cocaine bear. Hard As Rocky: ⁓ nice. Sandra Hueller: Yes. Yeah. So, yeah, how did so obviously you guys both read the book. What was it like when you came across that that reveal in the book and what was it like to see it actually unfold on screen? Adrian (the Planet): bit too excited. ⁓ I wasn't surprised. I kind of saw it coming a little bit. I mean, I'm mostly the same as you, Olivia. Like, I don't spend my time watching movies or reading books. like, but what if this is in the end? Like, I just, you know, I like to let it play out. Especially like mysteries, you know, like I kind of turn my, I don't, I'm not trying to solve, you know, wake up dead man. I'm not, I don't, even that one, I don't really care about who did the murder at that point. Cause the rest of the story, the themes were too good. Gotta drink some water, gosh. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yuck. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): I kind of saw it coming a little bit just because like They Grace's character was written so well that like I was already seeing his intricacies and like his fears and his Desires like he wants to help but he would he will never willingly put himself out there for anything Because the one time that he did when he wrote that paper ⁓ That like he humiliated himself ⁓ Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): He was like I'm never doing that again. I'm never putting myself out I'm never putting myself in the limelight or anywhere anybody can like see me, you know, I'm gonna go hide at this middle school and So I'm like, yeah, there's no way he's on this ship willingly ⁓ It like something had to have happened for this to get there and when the explosion happened that killed Dubois and ⁓ the other one ⁓ I was like Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Sure. Adrian (the Planet): He's locked in that's it like he's not getting out of this, you know, and when Stratt calls him in his office I'm like she's about to force it on him. Like he's not gonna have a choice Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah, I think in the book it's definitely even more foreshadowed because they don't really talk about it in the movie, but there is a certain gene that people had that allowed them to be in a coma. Yeah, that allowed them to be in a coma as long as they were going to be. And so it was like, what Walter, like three to 5 % of the population had it or something. was. Adrian (the Planet): It was not in the movie at all, yes. One in every 7,000 or 70,000 people have this coma resistant gene where you can be in a coma for a super long time and still come out of it. Hard As Rocky: Okay, that's more than... Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Whoa. Hard As Rocky: And yeah, and so great. They know from the beginning, like they knew that Grace had that genes. I think that is a lot more heavily foreshadowed in the book that, you know, it's he probably isn't willingly doing this. And I think too, I think the movie does an interesting thing that was, I'm not really sure why they made this choice, but in the book, Grace initially says no. Sandra Hueller: Okay, okay, yeah. Hard As Rocky: you know, to everything, to like doing anything more. And then he goes back to his class and kind of sees like their fear and like them being confused and not knowing what's happening. And that is more of his motivation of going back. In the movie, it kind of seems like it's more like, ⁓ I'm so interested in the science in this that I have to do this again. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Sure. Yeah. Well at one point... Go ahead. Adrian (the Planet): And that's what keeps them going, yeah. Well, in the... Well, I was gonna say just in the book really quick the walker that's like mostly right but when he goes When he goes back to the classroom after being in being in the lab already with project Hail Mary and then They're like, okay, we're done with you. don't need you anymore He like the kids ask what's going on, you know and he and he explains the astrophage and how like the Sun will be This many degrees cooler in 30 years and the kids they just all brush it off in the book Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): they're like, that's forever from now. We don't care. And they just start joking around with each other again and whatever. And that's when grace has that moment where he's like, ⁓ they don't even like so many people in this world. Kids have no idea the future that they're in for. so like, cause like kids don't have that foresight. Like they don't care what's happening tomorrow, let alone 30 years from now. And so like, there was a really good moment where he's like, Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. That right, yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Right. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): It is a lot more hammered in the books how much he loves kids even though doesn't have any of his own like he loves The younger generation and like that's why he like he's a teacher at the end still anyway So that that that's his motivation for for going back. I think for time reasons. They probably just Kept it going Sandra Hueller: Yeah, well, and they kind of hinted at it like in the office with Stratt. She says like, because he's like, no, I can't do it. Like, I I don't I'm not the right guy for this. And she's like, you are the right guy for this. And, know, what are you going to do if you don't do this? You're going to how are you going to live with yourself? And she's like, if you don't don't don't do it for yourself, do it for those those kids in your classroom. Do it for the world. And and I think that Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Like you kind of see just, it's just subtle. It's so subtle. And that's one of the things I really love about Ryan Gosling is like, there's these like subtle facial expressions that are just enough for you to go, ⁓ something is turning there, right? Like there's some gears are turned in there. And so even though again, they had to kind of force him into it, at the end of the day, you know he's doing it for the kids. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: My only one thing I wish they would have done and this has nothing to do with anything. It doesn't matter like in the grand scheme of things. ⁓ But at one point, know, he in his classroom at the beginning of the movie, one of the students whose name is Olivia, ⁓ she asks a science related question about the astrophage. And and when at the end of the movie, when they are like getting to work, all the scientists are getting to work to like Adrian (the Planet): Nice. Sandra Hueller: to start figuring out what they need to do with all of this information that they have from him. I was really hoping that they would say one of the scientists names was Olivia and just be a really great full circle moment. That's my only complaint, honestly. And that doesn't even matter. Like it doesn't matter at all. So. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah, that would be awesome. Adrian (the Planet): And that knocks a whole star off the Letterboxd review. Hard As Rocky: Yep, yep, I'm changing the review right now. Sandra Hueller: It- It- Yeah! right now. So anyway, all in all, this was such a great movie. We're almost at an hour. And so so I realized we could probably keep talking about it for another hour. ⁓ Because I think we all just really enjoyed it so much. But ⁓ trying to land this project, Tell Mary, what other other things you guys want to hit on before we start start winding down? Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah, I again, I think the very ending of this movie with grace on Rocky's planet is like, I was like actually giddy to see this part of the movie as it's coming up because in the book, Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah, me too. Hard As Rocky: I'm just so used to books just kind of ending and it being like, like if the book had ended after I knew like, Grace went to go save Rocky and like the, he sent the things back to earth. Like that's where I expected it to end. So getting that extra little piece of like, they've created this whole biosphere for him to live and then are letting him teach their kids science like, Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: the art about earth and stuff. just is like, again, another example of like, can just make like a really good story and it can be happy and fun and it can like do the things that you know people are gonna wanna see and like, it can be great. And that this movie did it and it's like, know, and we got the, know, him getting the news that they're ready to take them back to earth and seeing that earth got the Beatles and stuff. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Hard As Rocky: It was just yeah, it was great and I love it and I love too that Andy we're the solution to the problem Because when you think about it astrophage is actually Like I mean it basically allowed humans to do interstellar space travel, which we can't do and now They can and the solution they found to stop astrophage from eating the Sun so much that's gonna dim Doesn't kill it. It just keeps it in control so that Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Hard As Rocky: know, humans are still gonna be able to now use Astrophage for probably a lot of really incredible and crazy things in the future. And so I think that, yeah, this movie and the book and just, it's just so good. And if you, for some reason you're listening to this whole episode and you haven't seen it, go watch it on the big screen. It's worth it. Like if you're gonna do it for one movie this year, like, you know, do it for this one. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it- Do it for Dune part three. ⁓ okay. Yeah, yeah, do it for this one. Hard As Rocky: Well, listen, Greg Frazier didn't shoot Dune Part 3, okay? Well, listen, if this is, if I'm talking to someone that they're not already thinking about going, they don't care about seeing, you know, they're like, ⁓ I'm going to go see one movie. This is the one you should see. I'm just saying it off the rip. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: I was like, just one? We also have the Odyssey. Don't forget about the Odyssey, guys. Adrian (the Planet): No, he didn't. Nah. Sandra Hueller: Mm. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, I don't think anything else is coming out this year that would be like there are a couple of that I definitely am going to see in theaters. But yeah, if you only pick one, I can't see anything else coming out this year that would stack up. I will say the. Sandra Hueller: Especially if you're not a movie person and haven't seen all the other... You're right, you're right. You know what? You're right. Hard As Rocky: Yes. Yeah, exactly. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is me. I'm I'm the non movie person. Sandra Hueller: Walter. Hard As Rocky: I'm gonna, I'm slobbering at, I'm like, wanna see the Odyssey right now. Like, I wanna commit a crime. If I knew I could commit a crime to watch the Odyssey and IMAX tomorrow, I would commit the crime, you know? Adrian (the Planet): Yeah Sandra Hueller: Man, I wanna go see it ⁓ in the IMAX 70 millimeter. Ugh, I wanna see it. I freaking know. July. Adrian (the Planet): You Hard As Rocky: ⁓ They've been sold out for like a year, it's crazy. Adrian (the Planet): When does that movie come out? Hard As Rocky: This summer, right? Yeah. I was told there was going to be a real trailer for it before Project Hail Mary 2, and I was pumped, and there wasn't. There was a trailer for the effing Sheep Detectives, but not for freaking... Yeah. Wait, you got one for Odyssey? I'm pissed. I'm so pissed. Adrian (the Planet): ⁓ yeah, I'm not. Well, I'm gonna try to. Sandra Hueller: Did you guys- ⁓ I got one. ⁓ huh. Yeah, I got one for Odyssey. Also, also I got the Sheep Detectives one too. So don't worry, I got that one as well. Adrian (the Planet): I can't believe we got sheep detectives and not the Odyssey. It looks like a fun movie. It looks cute. You know, like I'm not, I'm not, we're not hating on sheep detectives. Maybe y'all are, I'm not. Sandra Hueller: So, it'll be fine. ⁓ I did also before the movie started, ⁓ usually when I see a movie in Dolby, there's like a little Dolby, like kind of like there's a always like an IMAX, like this is IMAX, you know, this is, this is what Dolby looks like. Adrian (the Planet): It was fine. And he's asking for socks and you know, he's saying he's a good elf. Like Dolby the house elf, know. That's his twin. Sandra Hueller: What? Stop. No, not Dobby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate, I'm moving past that. What was cool though was that the directors, the directors, Lord Miller, they were both on, like they did a little promo and was talking about like how, how they shot the movie, aspects of the movie that they shot and how everything was very practical, which you've seen a lot of that online. It was just cool to see that. I love seeing. Adrian (the Planet): hold on ⁓ right go ahead the cool directors did what Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: either the actors or the director before a movie talking about what they kind of put into all of this. so and you can tell like, again, we've been glazing this movie for an hour and five minutes now about just it's a gorgeous film. It's so, so, so pretty. ⁓ And it's so hopeful and and funny and endearing. You're you're going to go through the full Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: emotional spectrum. Yeah. So it's so good. Adrian (the Planet): You're gonna hit every emotion. Yeah Yeah, ⁓ Speak of both full emotional spectrum before before we run this video. Can we take five minutes? to because we I think it was Olivia. I think you're the one who sent the trailer for Harry Potter and their philosopher stone the the Ozzie Walker sent it in the group chat ⁓ Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. It's me. Sandra Hueller: ⁓ no. Adrian (the Planet): Each of us said something to the effect of a very split on our opinions about The way that the trailer and then there's the concept of the show itself So if we could take five minutes really quick because we're not gonna do a whole dedicated episode on this But I would love to hear what y'all think Walker you already started going so go for it Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: I- Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: No. Hard As Rocky: I'm not really split. I'm just gonna watch it. It looks good, I think, and I am interested in it. I don't know. mean, I'm not like a huge, I've never read the Harry Potter books. I've only seen the movies. So that probably contributes to that. But I don't have a problem with really anything so far. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if they're good or not. I don't know. That's it. Adrian (the Planet): Ahhhh... Okay. I forgot you hadn't read him. Okay, okay, fair Olivia. Sandra Hueller: Ha ha ha! I think, well, I feel kind of split in the same way you feel split, ⁓ that I don't necessarily want to contribute anymore to JK Rowling. And also, I do love Harry Potter. I just do. It was a huge part of my childhood. And also, genuinely, these kid actors for this new series look really great in character. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah. I know. Perfect perfect Sandra Hueller: They look so great. One of my complaints, this is truly, I feel like, ⁓ a generalized complaint I have for live action remakes and just this remake, is that it looks very gray and there's no color to it. And I feel like if you're gonna have anything, and this is the same issue I have with the, one of many issues I have with Hard As Rocky: It does. Adrian (the Planet): Very dull. Very dull. Yeah. Sandra Hueller: the Moana live action adaptation or remake is like, how did you make Hawaii look so gray? Right? Like how did you make? Hard As Rocky: ⁓ my gosh. Adrian (the Planet): looks awful. Yeah, what do you mean? How did you make Hawaii look like somewhere you don't want to live? Sandra Hueller: Right. How'd you make Hawaii look like Florida? Thanks. Thanks for laughing at that. Adrian (the Planet): That's the worst that's that's the worst judgment you could pass on that Hard As Rocky: Well, and you know what? Sandra Hueller: Yeah Hard As Rocky: Florida looks better in a movie like The Florida Project than Hawaii looks in Moana. Like something's wrong with that. There's something wrong there. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's one of my issues with the trailer we've gotten for the new Harry Potter series. you know, it comes out, I think, over Christmas. And truthfully, the first two Harry Potter movies to me are Christmas movies. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, perfect timing. Christmas movies, yeah. The first, I think the first, no, I think the first two can also be considered Halloween movies as well. Like basically October to December is Harry Potter season, at least the Christopher Columbus ones. ⁓ Olivia, I agree with everything you said and I'll add on a little bit. Yes, I do not love the idea of giving JK Rowling an ore money, but you know what? My existence is inconsequential to her. Anything I do is inconsequential to her. I'm not going to... Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Sure, yeah, yeah. Right, a thousand percent. Hard As Rocky: Mm-hmm. Sandra Hueller: Right. Hard As Rocky: Also, just I was gonna say, HBO has already paid her. They've paid her for the rights. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, it's not like, yeah. ⁓ true, truly she has received her reward. Sandra Hueller: right and and Hard As Rocky: Right. Well and nevermind. Go, go, go. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. I was gonna say also, in getting to this point of like, well, I'm not gonna give her any more of my money. It's like, man, if I stopped giving all of these evil people my money, I wouldn't have anything. Hard As Rocky: Well there's no ethical consumption under capitalism guys. ⁓ Adrian (the Planet): Olivia don't get me damn it Walker. I was gonna say don't get me don't get me going about ethical consumption under capitalism I'll start I'll start apply Hard As Rocky: You're just gonna not be- you're gonna have to live on a commune in the middle of nowhere, growing your own food and cutting your own timber and- Adrian (the Planet): I'm about to start applying Marx's theory to this conversation. So let me let me let me go to the next the next thought because yes agreed you can't it's not even about separating the art from the artists. It's just the fact that like like yesterday I was traveling for work in a different state and I was in a rush and I needed coffee and I had to go to Starbucks Starbucks as a company sucks had to order something from Amazon last week. Jeff Bezos is an evil evil man. I what am I what am I to do? Hard As Rocky: Hahaha Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Okay, I'm a guy. I'm one silly guy big bug flying. I'm sitting on my back porch big bug flying around me Speaking of evil guys. Yeah. No. Yeah So anyway, so yes that it you know, I hesitate to do that, but you know what also really enjoy Hogwarts legacy I'm sorry. The game is fun. It's pretty it's nostalgic So I'm about to have this back to project Hail Mary. You're not gonna believe how I'm gonna do it So when I when we were kids me and my sisters Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. He's just one silly guy and one big bug. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Whenever there was a movie coming out that one or any of us kids wanted to go see in theaters, and if it was based on a book, my mom, the English teacher that she always has been, had a rule that you could see the movie if you read the book first. So when I was in kindergarten was when the first Harry Potter movie was coming out. I was in the target audience, okay? I looked like Harry Potter, okay? Like I am... the kid who's going to go see, yeah, big, big ass dork. And I told my mom, like all my friends, I was like, I really want, like, I want to see Harry Potter. And she was like, that's fine. You gotta read the book first. I was five, okay. I was in kindergarten. And I said, I checked her ass. said, sounds good. And I read the first Harry, I read the first three Harry Potter books before the first, before I saw the first movie came out in theaters. And so I got to see it in theaters cause I was so excited. Sandra Hueller: Nerd! Hard As Rocky: Hahaha Sandra Hueller: Hahaha Adrian (the Planet): And that experience reading harry potter at the age of five kicked off my love for reading for stories for books for just Any kind of cool media, which again at the time that was really cool media and so ⁓ that's why like seeing project hail mary, I was like I I have to read the book first like I can't I can't see the movie without reading the book like amy lial is going to kill me so i'm just like Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Hard As Rocky: Knowing that she didn't read the book now is funny though when she saw the movie. Adrian (the Planet): I'm 30 now. She did not read the book and she saw the movie. She's grown, I have not. so I, you know, Harry Potter, like, just with its litany of problems, both with the story itself, because there's all kinds of layers with ⁓ the things it has to say about...flavory? And some other weird... Sandra Hueller: That is amazing. That's hilarious. Hard As Rocky: Hahaha Sandra Hueller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Adrian (the Planet): Topics in there that did not get handled well and of course JK Rowling and her issues notwithstanding and her black mold in her house and in her brain and Even after Yeah Even after all of that damn it. Do I love Harry Potter damn it? Do I love the Wizarding World like I I'm sorry like I'm 30 I was born in 1995 you cannot take this from me. Okay, I I just I don't know Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A totally broken magic system that makes no sense. You Sandra Hueller: Amen, brother. Adrian (the Planet): I also think it's been not long enough since the movies to have a reboot and like to just redo the whole thing again Would have much rather seen a more original story in the universe Allah and or a rogue one like in Star Wars, you know, we don't need reads retreads yet ⁓ But the new cast looks great ⁓ Except for and I'm so sorry. I'm sure he's an amazing actor. I've never seen him anything Papa is see do as Snape has some weird implications within the story Sandra Hueller: Sure. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Sandra Hueller: So many weird implications. It's... Adrian (the Planet): And listen, and listen, I'm not even like, it's not that I don't care about race swaps. I like a good race swap sometimes. It makes it more interesting. Like I love when, like, I didn't really watch Rings of Power, but they put more black people in this like, you know, European ⁓ medieval themed fantasy world and it rules, okay? Like it's a fantasy world. Do whatever you want. Nothing matters. Who cares? ⁓ But I saw a tweet earlier today. where somebody is like the picture of like first look as Papa Aceto Severus Snape and somebody quotes we'd a black person also as quotes we didn't the snake flashback scene go look like Jim Crow footage and I Sandra Hueller: Yes! Yes! I saw that too! Adrian (the Planet): And I was like, that is gonna be a tough watch. They're gonna have to handle that differently. They either got to stray from the book if they're not gonna make that look really bad, so. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hard As Rocky: I mean, let's just be honest though, when is Harry Potter supposed to take place? Adrian (the Planet): the 90s. Hard As Rocky: So when was Harry's dad in school? Adrian (the Planet): would have been the 70s. Sandra Hueller: The... Wait... Hard As Rocky: Probably racist. Just gonna, yeah, probably racist. Like, let's just be honest. Like, his dad was Harry's father. He might have been the bravest person that this Hagrid had ever met. Probably racist. Sandra Hueller: No, you're right! Here's the- Adrian (the Planet): in England? Yeah. Sandra Hueller: Yeah. It probably would have been earlier. It probably honestly would have been the 60s because because it's the first book came out in 97 and that's I open at the close. And so if he's 18, we're getting to what? Adrian (the Planet): No, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I was okay. Calm down, Olivia. I was born in 95, right? My dad was in high school in this because he and my mom got married early 991 and they were in their early 20s when they had me and James and Lily Potter were also in their early 20s when they had Harry. So I think they would have been in high in Sandra Hueller: I'm just kidding, I'm sorry. Hard As Rocky: You Sandra Hueller: Uh huh. You're not listening to what I'm saying though. What I'm saying is 97 when the first book came out is the end of the that's when the the battle of Hogwarts happened in the timeline. So, so, so yes, yes. So, so in 90, he was 11, 12. And so Adrian (the Planet): ⁓ but is- Yeah. Oh, so 1990 is the first book. Because it's seven years. Hard As Rocky: Which means... Adrian (the Planet): 11 yeah, it was in the 60s his dad was at Hogwarts in the 60s Sandra Hueller: He would've been born... It was the 60s. It was super- It was even worse! Hard As Rocky: Racist racist bastard. What a bigot. Holy crap. Holy crap. Adrian (the Planet): We're cooked, chat. I love the collective math we all just did on that Sandra Hueller: You Adrian (the Planet): Ooh, that's gonna be a tough watch. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, yeah, so... Hard As Rocky: You know what though, what a great challenge for a young actor. He has to grapple with his dad not only being a bully, but also racist. Adrian (the Planet): saying the N word. Yeah. It's cause that's the thing. They should just, they have to, they just let, let James, the character of James lean into it even more, make him actually be racist. And that means Harry has to deal with even more that makes it hit even harder. But for anybody who doesn't hold on here, but it doesn't know that reveal the first, you don't see, ⁓ the flashbacks until the fifth book. So the first four seasons of this show, you're going to be like, Sandra Hueller: Yeah. Hard As Rocky: They might. And I have to say, yeah. Adrian (the Planet): Why is James Potter so venerated? He seems like a bad guy. Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. I also have to say that ⁓ the first look of Snape where he's like in the snow looks sick as hell. It's awesome. He looks awesome. Adrian (the Planet): he looks bad as hell, Like, yeah, it... He looks cold in both ways. Because he's in the snow. He's a... That's a beautiful man. He is... Yeah. He's gorgeous. An amazing name. Papa Asidu? Come on, dude. You can't have a better name than that. ⁓ Hard As Rocky: Yeah. Yeah. Very, yeah, super handsome. Sandra Hueller: Yeah, yes. Yeah. Hard As Rocky: That's fire. That's fire. Real quick too, before we end, I'm gonna go off on something else. Because we talked about Harry Potter long enough and I'm calling it, sorry millennials, I'm calling the Harry Potter talk. Yeah. I saw Undertone Friday night before I saw Project Hail Mary on Saturday and it is great. Sandra Hueller: Sure, no, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. Adrian (the Planet): Our resident zoomer is moving us along ⁓ yeah. Hard As Rocky: It cost half a million dollars, got bought by A24 at South by Southwest last year. has a great story about how the director came to make it. And yeah, it's really good. It's a really good horror movie. It's very tense. If you go see it, I was nervous in the probably first 20 minutes. Like, ooh, I don't really know about this. And by the end, was like, it all makes sense. I know why it was the way it was in the beginning, and it was amazing. I loved it. Adrian (the Planet): ⁓ You said I should not watch this, Hard As Rocky: Don't ever, don't ever watch this movie, Walter. I can tell you if you want me to, why you shouldn't, but you don't want to watch it. Adrian (the Planet): ⁓ is in a spoiler free way for anybody else who might be listening and and maybe for Olivia You don't like horror movies though, so maybe Olivia will never see it anyway Hard As Rocky: Olivia is not going to watch it either. don't think. Yeah, I can tell you after the episode. Sandra Hueller: I won't watch it. Correct. You guys are correct. Let's let's talk. Let's let's land this plane. Hard As Rocky: Yeah, let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Who knows our outro spiel, I don't know it. Sandra Hueller: So, alright. Hard As Rocky: ⁓ Hail Mary full of grace. Adrian (the Planet): Yeah, nice. Good. Good. Sandra Hueller: All right. Thank you to anyone who made it to the end of this episode. We really appreciate you guys listening to us talk about movies and then also ramble about trailers and anything else in between. Right. And we want to give a shout out to ⁓ the artists who put together our music and our artwork. That is, ⁓ no, I said Jordan Cox, Cord and Jocks and Sean Cohen. Go check them out. We love the work that they do. ⁓ And our next movie is supposed to be Ready or Not 2. ⁓ But since Isaac's not going to be on there, we can do whatever we want. Do we want to do Ready or Not 2? Hard As Rocky: Yeah. I- Adrian (the Planet): Let's do Project Hail Mary again. Sandra Hueller: Okay, part two. Hard As Rocky: Hahaha! ⁓ Adrian (the Planet): done. Hard As Rocky: I'm down to do Ready or Not 2, ⁓ but I'll also watch something else. I'll do whatever. Sandra Hueller: Let's just do Roadie or Not 2, it's already on our schedule and I don't want to have to think about what other movie we're gonna do. Hard As Rocky: Okay, and just a little look ahead, the drama is the next week and I am very excited for that movie. the chemistry between Robert Pattinson and Zendaya I've been seeing in interviews is so interesting and I can't wait, I cannot. Adrian (the Planet): We're just gonna be y'all too. Sandra Hueller: So excited for the drama. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's gonna be so fun. All right. We did it. Amaze, amaze, amaze. Rocky hate mark. Adrian (the Planet): Okay. Hard As Rocky: Yep, we did it. Project Hail Mary. Adrian (the Planet): Amaze, amaze, amaze. Fist my bump. Hard As Rocky: Fist my bump.