JIM: want wrestlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperadoes, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, conmen, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horsetheaves, bulldikes, train robbers, bank robbers, asskickers, shitkickers, podcasters, and Methodists. Native American Mel: Man, welcome to freaking flyover film country. JIM: Thank you. Thank you. LivDog: Ha goodness. Oh man. Today we are discussing Blazing Saddles in case you didn't get that from the little intro music that we had today. JIM: ⁓ Guess what we're talking about today? LivDog: So where do we even start with this? JIM: I love this movie. I don't think anyone who knows me really well is surprised by that, but, I'm, I was excited when someone mentioned this, ⁓ from our listenership as something we should cover this year. So I was like, yes, let's do it. Come on, let's go. So. LivDog: Who was it, do we remember? Do I need to go look it up? JIM: Do we remember? Native American Mel: I don't know, but I will find out. I can find out quickly. LivDog: Okay, great. Cool. JIM: While you're finding out, ⁓ John Morris wrote the theme for blazing saddles that we just heard a snippet of and. He apparently, I don't know if it was Mel Brooks or someone else, but apparently he was informed that this was going to be like a serious Western and not a satire. And he put his heart and soul into it and it's a great song. So it just kind of adds another layer of humor to the movie. LivDog: Ha ha ha ha ha! think that makes it all the more better. Yeah, that he didn't know it was a satire and didn't know it was a comedy and thought it was the serious film and wrote this incredible, incredible song. JIM: Even the better. Native American Mel: Yeah. I'm currently realizing that no one did suggest this movie and I'm thinking that maybe Isaac just, yeah, there's no comment. Unless someone, someone could have DM'd us I guess. I think a couple people DM'd us but I'm looking on our Instagram and I don't see anyone. LivDog: hahahahah ⁓ JIM: Maybe I was just like, let's just do blazing south. No, I don't think that's not what I remember. That's not what I remember. Yeah, I think, yeah. It was probably Zach. I mean... Native American Mel: Yeah, I know. Zach does love this movie. That's the first time I ever watched this movie was with Zach. He showed me this movie when I was way too young to understand why it's funny. So. LivDog: Nice. JIM: I'm sensing a pattern here with the movies that you guys watched together. Or did watch together. LivDog: Hahaha Native American Mel: Yeah, yeah, the video games and the movies. He's very older brother energy showing me things that I should not have been watching or playing for sure. LivDog: That was just my parents. Native American Mel: Ha JIM: Well, Native American Mel: I do that to my parents now. That's like my role. Because they are like, they don't watch, they didn't watch anything like that. And so I show my parents all the crazy stuff now. LivDog: Nice. Nice. Amazing. JIM: I think I've shared this with you guys on an episode in the past, but I just put on Blazing Saddles sometime last year. I'll have to go check my letterbox to see exactly when, but I realized, ⁓ this is an hour and half long, the kids are asleep, Jess is kind of doing her own thing, I'm just gonna watch this. And she was, I think she was grading and. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: She, I was laughing so hard that she came out and she was like, you have to be quiet. Like I cannot concentrate. Like so loud and then like so like without stopping basically because this scene, this movie is just one hilarious scene after another. And then I watched it again about a month ago and it solidified itself as like a classic for me, probably like a top 10 movie for me personally. LivDog: hahahaha That's high praise for you. JIM: Right next to the tree of life. Native American Mel: Yeah, that's... LivDog: ⁓ my gosh. Talk about range. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Yeah, exactly. Have good day. What can I say? What do you guys think about blazing saddles? LivDog: So I think I'm the only one who watched it for the first time for this episode, right? So it was fine. I thought it was funny. I laughed at different parts, but I don't think I loved it like you do, Isaac. So, and it's not even like... Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: I, so for anyone who hasn't seen Blazing Saddles, it came out, what, 74? So it came out in 74. It very much is ahead of its time in a lot of ways. And people, Isaac, I noticed in the dossier, you like put in the whether or not it could be remade today controversy. And I kept reading that on letterboxes, like this couldn't be remade today. And I was just like, I don't... Native American Mel: 1974, yeah. JIM: 74. Yep. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: It's not any more offensive than anything else I've ever seen. Like, I don't know about, well, I know Walker hasn't, because we talked about this in our group on Instagram when I sent in the scary movie six trailer and hadn't seen it. But like those movies are also just as like ridiculous and like offensive. And so, I don't know, I feel like this is kind of in a similar vein as like. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: those movies or like South Park or Family Guy. like, I think there's lots of things that that could be compared to Blazing Saddles. Obviously, this this was way before all those things, but I just didn't love it. I don't know. And maybe I wasn't in the right headspace. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: Well, mean, like the elephant in the room is like how racially charged the movie is not in a dark way. It's like it's making light of, you know, it's I don't know how many times the N word is used in the movie, but it's it's a lot. It is a lot. And that is going to make so many people uncomfortable. And I recognize that for sure. Native American Mel: I What? And- Yeah. Well, and not only the N word. mean, in the first three minutes of this movie, there are three racial slurs and a homophobic slur used in like literally the first three minutes. Like it's pretty, but. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. At the same time, have Quentin Tarantino writing himself into film so he can say the N-word. Like, I just, I don't, yeah, like that's my thing is like, this is not like crazy. Should those things be said? No. Like that's, but that's the point of this movie is like, hey, we're going to highlight racism and sexism too. Like, like there's some of that as well, but like, Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. I- LivDog: we're gonna highlight racism and talk about how terrible white people are. And we're gonna make people feel uncomfortable, but we're also gonna make people laugh, which is great. And I can get behind that. I just don't think I loved this film in the same way that maybe you guys did. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm more on the same page with you, Olivia, and that I laughed. I have a good time watching this movie. But yeah, at end of the day, I'm like, yeah, this movie's all right. It's fun. I enjoyed watching it. like Isaac said, he watched it like what, a month ago? then, or like, I probably won't watch it again for years. know, like I'm not going to seek it out. I think that the whole could this be made today debate is always just really silly and funny. LivDog: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: because especially when it comes to ⁓ comedy because ⁓ comedy is so interesting right now and people who are a lot of comedians right now suck and are boring and just ⁓ cry about being canceled and stuff all the time but they're LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: I really like this comedian Anthony Jeselnik's take on it, which I'm not a huge fan of his standup, it's just not for me, but his take on offensive stuff I think is the right one, where he says, he's like, if you tell a joke and people get offended, that just means you're not funny enough. Your joke is not funny enough if people are getting offended. And he is the dark humor guy. He tells really kind of insane jokes. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: And he's like, and people laugh and no one gets mad at me and it's cause I'm funny. And if you're crying because you told a joke and people got mad at you, it's cause you're not funny enough. And I'm like, I kind of agree with them. Like, you know, if they wanted to make this movie today, make it funny enough and no one's gonna care or not enough people are gonna be mad about it. LivDog: Yeah. Right. Well, right. I mean, because they did that with the naked gun, right? Like, like, hilarious. Like every, every moment of that movie has a joke to it. And some of it probably pushes the limits a little bit, but like it's funny the whole time. And so that's a remake of a movie that probably also a lot of people were like, they could never remake this today, but they did. Native American Mel: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, well and it's always sunny in Philadelphia is still on TV Like and they you know, like they literally have a whole thing where they're remaking the lethal weapon movies and one of like different characters are doing blackface on the show on a show that's on cable TV like it's Yeah, so LivDog: Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. JIM: one of the things that I've, like, I do not feel the need to either convince both of y'all that this is a masterpiece or defend it for, you know, the creative decisions it's made because like, kind of just, it kind of speaks for itself, especially, ⁓ some of the research that we compiled for this episode. Like this kind of started like the modern parody movie. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Sure, yeah. JIM: And remains like one of the best examples of it. Like this was before airplane. And airplane I would say too, like also like every single joke I think except one that I can think of in airplane is still like so funny 50 or 60 years later, like whenever that was made. ⁓ But the thing that was cool kind of like researching for this episode was Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. JIM: realizing that like there's a behind the scenes where Mel Brooks says the thing that drives this movie is like the the racial hatred and bigotry but and then Gene Wilder had a really funny way of putting it he said when I read the script because initially Mel Brooks wanted him to play Harvey Corman's ⁓ character Headley Lamar and he said I'm not right for that role and then eventually Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: I forget exactly what happened. I'm going to try to find out, ⁓ during this episode while we're talking, but, ⁓ whoever was going to play the wake of kid dropped out and then. Native American Mel: They had I think I read that they got like alcohol poisoning or something on set the first day right. LivDog: the scene where he's introduced that... hold on, I know I just read that. It was... JIM: ⁓ shoot. LivDog: Yeah, where it says Young. JIM: Daily or, no, there was another guy, like Ron Daily or, okay, so he got, there was another guy, like a bunch of people, they asked John Wayne if he would be the Waco kid and he was like, this is not, like, he wanted to be all family friendly and stuff. ⁓ yeah. LivDog: Gig-Yan, Young. Gig-Young was... which is hilarious considering that man was married three different times, had had several affairs, was horrifically racist. He probably was like, I over identify too much with these racist characters. I don't know if I can do it. This isn't satire. This is just my real life. JIM: ⁓ yeah. But yeah, it is public image to think about, you know? Yeah, anyway, G G right Yeah, yeah, like I don't say anything about I feel this way Gene Wilder had this way he said the reason I love this script and I love this movie now even to this day is like I They they are kind of dismantling Not dismantling but they're making fun of racism while like slapping you in the face with jokes every three minutes and there's there's just like Native American Mel: Hahaha. LivDog: You Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. JIM: That's a really uncommon thing. There's just like no other movie really like it in that way. yeah, and then also like, is, knowing that this inspired Airplane, it makes total sense why I think this is hilarious because Airplane is also one of my favorite comedies of all time. And I'll just like, I would watch it every day if I just had all day to kill, you know? So. Native American Mel: Yeah. You Yeah, this movie, I mean, like I said, I do think it was very funny. I think the reading that Gene Wilder and the main actor, can't remember his name, Cleveland Little, were friends off screen too, like that comes across so clearly on screen and it like just made, it makes the movie a lot better. their relationship. JIM: Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: it just like they both are so good in this movie and so fun and It just works so well it works so well and I love that ⁓ Specifically the scene where he's talking about how everyone in the town is just a bunch of poor farmers. And he says, you know, morons. Morons. JIM: Wait, yeah, me find that. LivDog: Wait, hold on. You know, morons. JIM: You've got to remember these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know, morons. like, Cleavon Little like, breaks and like, I love that they put that in the movie. It's so funny. Native American Mel: Hehehehehe LivDog: Hahaha! Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. LivDog: It's so good. Yeah. ⁓ Yeah, I wonder how many times they had to like, they broke character because they were trying to make each other laugh so hard. Because it is, I do agree, like their chemistry is wonderful and they are so funny together and you can tell, like you can tell they just genuinely enjoy working together, which is, which is so fun to watch on screen. Yeah, Gene Wilder is really good in it because he's playing the straight man basically the whole time. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. LivDog: And that's like fun because I feel like when we think of Gene Wilder, we think of these like kind of really eccentric over the top characters. And so it's fun to see him play this, the straight man in this film. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: the walker before you got before you got on. ⁓ was like just getting getting in the podcasting mindset, which is something I haven't unfortunately made time to do recently because of my life in general. But I was watching clips and like behind the scenes stuff and just kind of like, you know, thinking about what I wanted to say. And I was watching the scene where he's like, he says I used to be the wake up kid. And he said, yeah, see this. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. JIM: And goes, yeah, so what's the deal? And he goes, I shoot with this hand. And his hand is like, his left hand is shaking. And it was in the middle of that that Olivia got on and joined the call and I was like laughing my ass off. And she was like, what are you laughing at? Native American Mel: That LivDog: Yeah. Native American Mel: That so that scene I have a funny connection to because Gene Wilder died I think when I was a senior in high either a junior or senior and I was drug major in marching band, you know Though both those years and one of the things I did was I did I would do a different salute at every game and most of them were movie references and so the week that Gene Wilder died, that was my salute, was I held up my steady hand and then pulled up the waffling one. JIM: That's funny. That's awesome. LivDog: Nice. That's awesome. That's amazing. Yeah, he died in August of 2016, which would have been right going into our senior year of college. Are you that much younger than us? I know we talk about that a lot, but in my head... Native American Mel: Yep. JIM: Aren't you 26? Yeah. Babyface. Native American Mel: Yeah, I'm 26, yeah. LivDog: Man, that's crazy. So we were all seniors. We were all seniors and graduated at the same time. Just different, different, yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah, we're all seniors. JIM: High school and college. Me and Olivia, you could say are senior citizens. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah, I give my condolences by the way. I don't know if you guys were keeping up with the UC at UCA, but they lost the conference championship today. So Queen's College or something. Which is, isn't that where Alexander Hamilton wants to go? I'm gonna get a scholarship to Queen's College. LivDog: My back and my knees sure feel like it. Ugh, I was. JIM: to who. LivDog: Queens. Yeah. It was, it was tough. JIM: Sounds fake. LivDog: Yeah, yes. Yup. yeah, they, yes. It is in New York. JIM: So it's East Coast. Are you sure that Alexander Hamilton wasn't talking about King's College, the college that Dinesh D'Souza founded? LivDog: Mmm. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. JIM: Just, it was a joke. It was joke. Dennis DeSouza, not a good person, so. Native American Mel: Yeah, I'm like, this is Isaac Isaac. LivDog: No, no, the lyric is, I'm gonna get a scholarship to Queens College. JIM: I believe you I was making a joke. Much like. Native American Mel: Hehehe LivDog: You should be funnier. Native American Mel: Yeah, you're just not funny enough. LivDog: Ha! JIM: Or maybe y'all don't know who Dinesh D'Souza is and you're not willing to admit it. Okay, there you go. Guess what? I do, okay? Yeah. Native American Mel: I don't. I don't. I don't have to not. I'm not not admitting it. I just don't know. LivDog: I don't. I don't. So maybe you should be funnier and Walker and I should know more things. Hey, I just... I don't think you should attack me on International Women's Day. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: let's you know what I think we all have things to work on so Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Is it today? Wow. Native American Mel: That's true. Let's give it up for Olivia. LivDog: It is today, actually, and thank you, thank you. Yeah, Isaac, I can't believe you have a wife and you have two daughters and a mother and several sisters. So I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. Native American Mel: And you didn't even know. Yeah. JIM: Yep. And a father whose birthday is today. So, happy birthday David. Native American Mel: Wow, what a feminist to have his birthday on International Women's Day. That's so... JIM: Is it, I don't think it's always on March 8th every year, is it? I love women, look, look, let me just. LivDog: No it is, it 100 % is. Native American Mel: You think International Women's Day is... It's the first Saturday of March, whatever date that might be, or Sunday, whatever date that might be... LivDog: Isaac is about to... I was about to say you're about to do the Will Ferrell speech! JIM: I'm the mother of a son. I'm the son of a mother. LivDog: ⁓ my gosh, yeah. Amazing. JIM: I love women. ⁓ Speaking of women, okay, so Madeline Kahn who plays, ⁓ What is her name? She plays Lily von Stupp. ⁓ This is a very overt homage slash slash slash parody of Marlene Dietrich in the Blue Angel and Stage Pride, which were 1930 and 1950 films respectively. ⁓ Kind of like a seductress stage performer. And it's Native American Mel: So. JIM: You know, Misogyny is one of the lesser, or not one of the smaller quibbles like following after racism that this movie has kind of attracted over the years. But Olivia mentioned it kind of at the beginning of this episode. So I thought I'd segue into that. So yeah, what did y'all think about, I don't know, her character I think is very funny, unsurprisingly. yeah, I think everything in this movie is funny. But what did y'all? LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: Yeah. JIM: Specifically Olivia, happy International Women's Day. What did you think about this performance from Madeline Kahn? LivDog: Thank you. Thank you. I really liked the performance. I thought she was really funny. ⁓ Fun fact, I was looking at her filmography. She voices ⁓ one of the characters in a bug's life. And I can't remember which character it is now that I started talking about that. It's not the queen ant. It's one of the older characters that he runs into. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: ⁓ ⁓ really? Native American Mel: Hmm. LivDog: with the circus or whatever. Anyway, so I was very excited to make that connection because I love A Buck's Life. Anyway, back to this actual movie though, that we're actually covering, Blazing Saddles. I thought I loved her little number. Yes, yeah, the moth. I loved this character's number in the saloon. I thought it was really funny and really good. she, I think she's an interesting character. JIM: Gypsy Moth. LivDog: for sure. so she was, she, the way she was able to like kind of play off all these men in a way that you really didn't see. Obviously this is set in the like 1800s, but like obviously you wouldn't have seen that in the 1800s, but you also didn't see a whole lot of that in the seventies when this film came out either. So that was really cool to see, see her kind of hold her own against these, um, actors as their Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: being super racist, sexist towards her. And she plays into that, think, really well too. So those are my thoughts. JIM: Some quick romancing and then a shower. Stage door johnnies constantly surround me. They always help me with one request. Who can satisfy their lustful habits. I'm not a wabbit. I need some rest. LivDog: The, yeah, the fact that, and she's like German, isn't she? Or supposed to be, so, so the fact that she like can't say her R's is also really, really funny. JIM: Yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: tired sick and tired of love anyway yeah yeah she yeah she is so so funny in So yeah, apparently she's also, I think she's mentioned on screen too as like the Teutonic Tytwilo. You Anyway. Native American Mel: I gotta be honest. JIM: and she got a best supporting actress, now I'm for it. LivDog: Wow. Native American Mel: The performance scene to me, I didn't think it was that fun. JIM: Yeah. Native American Mel: And I'm saying that bravely on International Women's Day. I don't know why. It just really didn't. It really didn't hit for me. Maybe it's because I'm too young. You know, I'm so young over here. Maybe that's No, I mean, I, I the way that she was talking, I think I literally think this is what it is. The way that she's talking, like all I could think about was Bugs Bunny. LivDog: Wow. It's the youth. JIM: youth these days. LivDog: the youth these days. Native American Mel: And so like, I really couldn't even pay that much attention because every time she would say something, I just like kept thinking of Bugs Bunny. It was like messing with me. LivDog: Hahaha Hey, I'm really glad you brought up Bugs Bunny because one of the funniest bits in this whole movie is whenever Mongo comes to town and, and, JIM: ⁓ yeah. I do know that's like one of Walter's favorite scenes in the, I think it might be his favorite scene in the movie. Native American Mel: Yeah LivDog: That's probably my favorite scene too. So Sheriff Bart, he dresses up as like ⁓ a messenger. it's like a bomb in the mess, like the letter or whatever. And he walks out, yeah, candy graham. And he walks out and you hear the loony tunes. Native American Mel: A postal yeah member of the pony express JIM: Yeah, postal worker, I think. Yeah. Native American Mel: And a candy gram. JIM: Da da da da da da da da da da da da LivDog: music playing which was so so good because I knew immediately ⁓ something so like zany is about to happen and it was Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. JIM: Hahaha! Native American Mel: Yeah, I have to say that scene too. I was, I don't know why like it hit me so good. Like he's just like pushing like his back on the piano and all the dudes are behind it just going, like I was like, what's even going on? Like this doesn't even make any sense, but it was very funny. Yeah, that seems awesome. LivDog: Yeah. ⁓ hahahahah What does Mongo say later when he's in the jail? Mongo is just a tool. JIM: I mean, that's... Native American Mel: You're falling in the game of life. JIM: Mongo only pawn in game of life? LivDog: ⁓ pawn, that's what he says. And the game of life. Same, Mongo. JIM: Sherriff love er ⁓ Mongo love sheriff bard LivDog: So funny. JIM: Yeah, mean like 1974 was a... It was still, you know, there was a lot of stuff happening with Looney Tunes. Like Bugs Bunny, think, I don't know enough about Mary Melodies and Looney Tunes history. Like I watched it incessantly growing up. But I don't know enough to know exactly what was going on in 1974, but clearly it was syndicated, you know. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. JIM: very popular so I laughed at that and it's Warner Brothers so just district which produced this movie so yeah LivDog: Yeah. ⁓ Right, yeah. Yeah. I just, I love Looney Tunes truly. And I love that they incorporated all these great musical pieces from different operas and different sort of classical music periods. ⁓ So when I hear them, I always think now, ⁓ this was in Looney Tunes, which is probably not how those composers would have... JIM: Me too. LivDog: loved their music being remembered, but I know those pieces because of Looney Tunes. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: But you had, yeah, you look back on, you Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: You look back on Looney Tunes and the people who are making those animators like Fritz Lang. Fritz Lang was like a big time filmmaker and made a ton of other movies that are critically renowned and will have a place in cinema history for forever. You just had like the most talented people and the funniest people making these cartoons for kids that were just as enjoyable for LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: adults to watch it not because it was crass or anything, but because it was just like historical and there's classical music and there's like the scene. ⁓ my gosh. There's this guy in our office who two guys and they would sit across from each other. And I think they would like make each other sick like six times a year and they would cough and cough and cough and cough and they'd sit behind like my cubicle and It would happen every year. And so we'd always make jokes about it. Like, are they not vaxxed? And, know, stuff like that. And, ⁓ and then one day I sent the gif of Bugs Bunny, like pulling up to the, walks out on stage and he bowels and he's in the tuxedo and he's going to like play a concert, ⁓ as a pianist. And he like takes off like seven pairs of gloves, ⁓ cause he has like white gloves on and then he, and then he like sits down and he's about to play. LivDog: Ha ha ha! Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: And the dude goes, and then he like waits and then he goes and then he's about to start and the dude starts calling again and bugs buddy pulls out a gun and shoots him. It's like, it is like, ⁓ it's like no words. Just the funniest. It's the funniest gag in the world. And yeah, loony, yeah, loony tunes. It's, it's the same reason I like blazing saddles. The scene where the Waco kid LivDog: Hahaha Native American Mel: You You JIM: doesn't draw his gun, you don't see him draw his gun and he disarms like all those guys just like in a in one second. It's like it's a Looney Tunes joke. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. JIM: Alright, that's good. We could stop there, so... Native American Mel: Yeah, no, that I I didn't sorry I I started thinking about spongebob then so sorry There's like that spongebob bit like you want to see me run to that rock and back you want to see me do it again? LivDog: Well, I thought Walker was gonna say something. Mmm. You always do it again. Okay, I'm glad you played that sound bite. I... Have you guys watched White Chicks? Okay. Okay. Isaac, I think you would love White Chicks. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: I actually have not seen White Chicks, but I've watched Blazing Saddles twice in lot of Looney Tunes in my childhood. Native American Mel: Ha ha ha. LivDog: So I get it, you had parents who actually cared what you watched. That's fine. Whatever. Can't relate. No, I don't. I'm just kidding. I'm just, hey, it's International Women's Day. Just let me have it, okay? Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: It's not what I meant to communicate. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Hey, at least your parents aren't watching Angel Studios productions. LivDog: So true. So true, bestie. So true. ⁓ So we watched White Chicks as a family movie and there's once the scene where they do the makeover scene and they get, you know, the Wayne's brothers dressed up to be white women. There's a song that plays and they open the door and there's this very nerdy looking white guy and his whole team and as they open the door you hear where the white women at and you he like like Native American Mel: That's true. That's true. Mm-hmm. LivDog: has his glove on and he's like, let's do this. And then it starts playing some song. Doesn't matter. Anyway, that's what, as soon as I realized like this is what this was from, and I knew it before watched this movie, but seeing it in its actual context is so funny. It's so good. ⁓ White Chicks is another movie people are like, ⁓ this would never be remade today. First of all, they're making a sequel. ⁓ So. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: ⁓ really? LivDog: They're talking, they're in talks to make a sequel. I guess it hasn't been confirmed yet, but I've seen where the Wayne Brothers said if Scary Movie 6 does really well, then they'll make a White Chicks sequel. So, and also White Chicks has not aged that poorly. Like actually I think it's aged really well considering the premise of the film. So it's still very funny. So good. So yeah, no, no, no, for sure, for sure. Native American Mel: Yeah. We're going into a recession. It's still very funny. JIM: Watch it. Native American Mel: Recession indicators though. ⁓ no scary movie six white another white chicks Bad boys nine is gonna come out soon. It's gonna be like all AI Will Smith Yeah LivDog: Mmm. Here's, okay, can I just say something? As someone who will probably always be a single income and will always be a renter, if there's a recession and the housing market crashes, this might be my one chance to buy a house. So. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. know we can finally, you know, we can finally, what are the memes? in, I wish in 2008 I would have bought a house instead of ⁓ attending elementary school. LivDog: Yeah, yeah, I should have been purchasing a house in 2008 instead of worrying about Algebra 1. So, playing Rock Band. Native American Mel: Yeah, I have to say one of my favorite, one of my favorite, I guess like younger millennial, older Gen Z memes is like me while my parents were dealing with the 2008 financial crisis. And it's like, yeah, or like Halo, Halo sniping compilations. LivDog: Guitar Hero JIM: Yeah, playing DDR. That reminds me of a, I don't know if ⁓ the algorithm would have brought this to Olivia, but it probably has brought it to you Walker, where the guys playing ⁓ video games and the captions like me playing Elden Ring and my son sticks a fork into an outlet and it's like, it like lights up his face and he goes. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ JIM: And he like keeps playing. He says, I can't pause it. anyway, what, ⁓ yeah. ⁓ another, ⁓ classic Madeline con Lily Von Stupp, wed woes. How will man take LivDog: That's really funny. Hahaha JIM: ⁓ I think the thing there's, there's one thing about blazing saddles that I wanted to tell y'all like, again, not a defense, just like a personal. you know, explanation of why it is, like the ending is the reason why it is one of my favorite movies. Cause when you realize like, oh okay, they've been breaking the fourth wall this whole time, like multiple characters like look at this screen, especially Cleavon Little and like break the fourth wall, look at the audience. But then when it... Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. LivDog: Mm-hmm. JIM: It's going into the climax and the final battle and then it spills over into the Warner Brothers lot. The first time I saw that I was crying laughing and how they go into like the singing in the rain set and he's... The sheriff played by Slim Pickens is about to punch that guy and he goes, no, the face and he punches him in the stomach instead. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. LivDog: And he goes, thank you. Native American Mel: Thank you JIM: And then they go into the cafeteria and then he's like, you can't fire us. We work for Bellbrooks. the reason that when it gets that meta is the, and then, and then when Cleavon Little and Gene Wilder at the very end, get the limousine drive away. LivDog: Hahaha! Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: ⁓ yeah, that was good. That was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. JIM: It just killed me the first time. And just knowing that it's coming is like even more of like a, I just, this was such a move or like decision to make like, I don't know, just we're making fun of Westerns. So we'll also make fun of like Hollywood producing Westerns and we'll end with a big dumb set piece where everyone is just like destroying everything. So. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that is my favorite part of the whole movie is that ending fight is so funny. This even though I knew it was coming and I laughed so hard again, because yeah, just the hard cut to the singing and the zoom out and pan over, which was really fun, and then cut to singing in the rain type thing going on. And then their conversation they have about the dance is really funny too. him stepping and trying to show the dancers how to do the dance and stepping in the water. But then just the wide shot of the dance going on and then the wall just bursting down and a whole crowd of people coming in, just all punching each other. It's just so funny. I think. LivDog: Hehehehehe JIM: Yeah. Hahaha LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: It's really funny too, the cafeteria scene I love. Like just every table is such like a unique conglomeration of costumes and people. you think about ⁓ Hollywood at that time though, those studio lots, they must have actually been like that. Like the, you know, the spot where everyone's eating. It's like, you can have a World War II film, a Western and singing in the rain all filming right next to each other. And they're all eating in the same spot. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Yeah. JIM: Yeah, yeah. Right. LivDog: I like how in that scene with the cafeteria, there's like the tour guide taking that group of people through and they walk out and they're all just covered in food. And then there's one point where one of the characters like kind of slides across the counter and is right next to the cash register and the woman at the register is like, all right, so you've got names, whatever food is on that person. And it was like, that'll be seven, whatever. It just made me laugh really hard because I'm like, that's... Native American Mel: Yeah JIM: Yeah Yeah. LivDog: That is a really good, bit, man. Yeah, that was, I do think that was really funny. And again, I love that it's making fun of Westerns and how Hollywood goes about Westerns. like, I mean, it's, it's again, it's funny that they wanted John Wayne because he is like the cowboy, even though he was definitely not a real cowboy. He was, he was from Cali, I think he was from LA. He was from California. Native American Mel: Yeah. Right. JIM: ⁓ yeah. LivDog: I believe, and never actually worked as a cowboy, never lived that life, he just played one on TV. And so it's really funny when people, you know, I think it was during the last presidential election or maybe the one before where they're like, we need a real man like John Wayne. And it's like, you guys want the real John Wayne or the characters he was playing? Because those are different. But anyway, I digress. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: I read a super interesting book called Jesus and John Wayne recently and it was about how like, have you read it Walker? LivDog: I want to read it. Native American Mel: No, I know about it though. JIM: Yeah, it's basically about how like, like why have Christians wanted these like masculine, figures in office, you know, since, you know, world, world war two or before world war two, or basically, know, you need strong leadership, but also it's like, why, why are we dropping name dropping like Braveheart and the Patriot and you know, like, do you know who Mel Gibson is? Do you know who John Wayne really was? You know? And anyway, it was really interesting book. So. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Right. JIM: ⁓ one quote I love that I don't know if you guys caught this, but when Jim is telling, Bart, you know, as the wake up kid, said, I must've killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille. Did y'all like catch that or look into that at all? LivDog: ⁓ I caught it. I don't think I remember who that is though. JIM: So apparently, so Sesame DeMille was in like making, he made the 10 Commandments in the 50s and kind of, but basically like a bunch of people died on his sets because they were just like so crazy and over the top. And so I like didn't really understand the joke at first, but then when I like clicked to do it, I was like, that's really, really funny. Cause like people would have understood it like, LivDog: Okay. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: That is really funny. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: seeing it in theaters. Native American Mel: Have you guys ever seen the footage from that movie? JIM: I mean I've seen the movie a long time ago I saw it. LivDog: No. Native American Mel: So in the scene, like the Red Sea scene, they used like a huge like tank of, I think it's like 300 something gallons of water. It's like nuts what they did. And I think that's like when I think people drowned or something. Like it's pretty insane stuff that they did. JIM: Really? Yeah. Yup. I mean... Native American Mel: ⁓ yeah, just see three extras drowned and one extra was injured so badly he had to have his leg amputated. JIM: ⁓ my gosh, that's insane. LivDog: ⁓ my gosh. That's crazy. They just don't make them like they used to, you know? Native American Mel: Yeah, so they don't make them like they used to man JIM: Yeah, exactly. You know what? The Commandments could not be made today. What if Mel Gibson remakes the Ten Commandments? Native American Mel: Hahaha LivDog: Hahaha! Ha Native American Mel: He's still around man, they just made that dunk, or Mel Gibson, nevermind, I thought you were talking about Mel Brooks. Mel Gibson's still around too. They're both still around. JIM: ⁓ yeah, Mel Gibson is still around. Or Mel Brooks, sorry. Both Mel's. LivDog: Mel Gibson and Mel Brooks are both still around. So Mel Gibson is making a sequel to Beshua the Christ. Native American Mel: They're both alive. Both the mills are alive. JIM: Passion of the Christ 2. Native American Mel: ⁓ my gosh, can I please just real quick go off topic? Just real quick, please. JIM: Too passion, too Christ. Thank God Olivia. LivDog: That did. And like, here's the deal, that joke will work on me almost every single time. So, anyway, yes, yes, Walker. Native American Mel: Hahaha JIM: Yep. Here's your soapbox, Walker. Native American Mel: Okay, soapbox. So everyone right now, if you have HBO Max, go watch Neighbors. There are four episodes. There are going to be more. come out on Fridays. It is a documentary series about every episode's 30 minutes and it covers two different sets of neighbors that are feuding for some reason. there is episode two has this lady who like, her and her neighbor are feuding because she feeds a bunch of stray cats and the cats stay around her house and they're pooping and peeing everywhere and it smells terrible and her neighbor's mad about it. So this episode of show, they're talking about that. Then it hard cuts to this like weird looking tapestry in her apartment and she goes, this is the tapestry of Jesus Christ. It's a hologram though. You have to wear 3D glasses to see Jesus. And like, LivDog: What? JIM: Hehehehehe Native American Mel: Then they proceed to like go on for just a few minutes like this lady is going through some sort of religious psychosis or something like she's kind of crazy and she writes short films and she is and she's been writing short films and now she wrote a film a feature film script about like I guess she said like in the Bible, you know, there's a time of Jesus's life that is not covered in any of the Gospels. So she wrote a script about that and she's like I LivDog: ⁓ no. ⁓ no. ⁓ Native American Mel: I need Mel Gibson to make this into a movie. And so like she's like trying to get a meeting with like a producer from one of Mel Gibson's movies. It's awesome. It's so awesome. Yeah. But that show is also awesome. Neighbors is amazing. It's so funny and crazy and weird. JIM: Hahaha Crazy. Crazy. I'm interested. LivDog: Wow. Wow. That's... JIM: Yeah, I am pretty curious now to go check. LivDog: That's the second episode. Native American Mel: Yeah, the first episode is so good. ⁓ my gosh. It's so good. And the second episode, I'm gonna text this to you guys. Sorry listeners, just watch the second episode of show and you'll know what I'm gonna send. It's these two dudes, this couple. And the second I saw this, I knew that these dudes were gonna be my guys and they rule. They rule so hard. So I'm gonna send a picture. ⁓ LivDog: Okay, all right, all right, all right. You That's so funny. ⁓ Native American Mel: Yeah, back to to blazing saddles. JIM: Anyway, yeah, blazing saddles. My phone is charging on a really short ⁓ charger, so I can't look at it right now. Native American Mel: Okay, it's a picture of two older gay men in a hot tub in their house. The hot tub. LivDog: I was gonna say, I didn't know they were gay, I was gonna say two guys in a hot tub sitting five feet apart because they're not gay. But they're gay and they're not five feet apart, so that makes sense. JIM: Sweet. Native American Mel: No. Yeah. Yep. JIM: Here's the thing, I like... I don't, I wouldn't want to sit close to, to like my wife in a hot tub. Cause it's hot, you know? It's just, it's just like, it's like, already wouldn't want to, you know? Native American Mel: That's like the craziest thing I've ever heard anyone say, I think. JIM: Really? LivDog: Isaac is not a wife guy. I'm just kidding. You are totally a wife guy. JIM: I'm not true. LivDog: Not when it comes to hot tubs though. Native American Mel: Isaac, get just, when's the last time you were in a hot tub? What hot tub are you in that's that hot? Are you in a sauna? You're not in a sauna. It's like a warm tub. Right? You know? JIM: It's just like, it's not sexy to me if I'm like sweating a ton, you know? Or like... LivDog: Are you in a sauna? Are you confusing saunas? JIM: No, hot tubs are like warm and, I don't know, hot dogs. Hot dog bread bowl. It's like a bunch of hot dog chopped up in a big ol' bread bowl. LivDog: You Hot dog, hot, hot dogs. Hot dog, hot dog, dog. Native American Mel: Okay LivDog: Hot tubs can get really hot, however, most of the time you can control the temperature. So... Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: That's true. Okay, I'll, you know, on our next episode, I'm gonna really process this and think about it and I'll report back. Native American Mel: Yeah. Pray it. Yeah, pray about it. LivDog: Okay, hey, pray about it. JIM: You know the scene I thought of when you talked about the hot tub or when you mentioned the hot tub? I thought of the scene in ⁓ Shanghai noon with Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson in the hot tub. That's a funny scene. LivDog: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. okay, Isaac, we've I feel like we have not like met your expectations of like talking about this film. I don't know if that's true. That's just that's just what I'm feeling right now. And so I want I want to hear your thoughts because Walker and I aren't huge on this movie, but you are. And so I want you to like, just Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: just geek out for the next few minutes. Like we were at minute 46, almost 47, so we've got some time. I want you to geek out. Tell us your thoughts on this movie. JIM: Yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: I I already have. I think the other thing I wanted... Oh, well, okay. LivDog: Alright, nevermind, I won't do it again. I won't give you the room then. Native American Mel: Hehehehe JIM: I mean, in the scenes, like the ending scene, I think, is a stroke of genius where it's like, okay, we're gonna like literally break all the walls and make it five dimensional. okay, well now we're in the real world and they ride away in a limousine and that kind of thing. But the thing I wanted to circle back to is that when I was doing the research for the movie, Burton Gillum who plays Lyle soon so Slim Pickens is the sheriff or like the main bad Guy who's like leading up the posse, but he's kind of like seen as the idiot Lyle is like the second-in-command guy Burton Gillum was you know, he was cast and then he was like Really uncomfortable reading all these lines because he's like I think he's like one of the first him and Slim Pickens are like the first people in the movie who they pull up and they're They're like saying the n-word Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: like so much and, and other, and other racial slurs. And in the, in the behind the scenes that I watched, he's, he, you can see on his face, he's like, sincerely, like he still feels like, you know, bad for saying those things, even though like he, he talks, he said, you know, Cleavon said, dude, just like, I, I know, like, I know this isn't from you. LivDog: and other racial slurs. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: I know that you are not this way. This is a script. This is all pretend. Like you just got to go with it and it's cool man. Like you can say whatever you want and I'm going to roll with it. And, ⁓ I think it's, I think it's just a really interesting Testament to like, that's what Mel Brooks said. Like that's the reason this movie worked and he fought Warner Brothers. Like he wrote it in 71 and then he basically fought with them for years to get it made. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. JIM: Like into this version because initially they were like we're not gonna let you do any of this And then he basically got them to let him do this version, which is crazy in 74 because You know people were very very aware of that stuff And that was like before Like woke was the term, you know, so I just think it's really fascinating looking at it and then like cleavon little's career didn't really take off from it LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah. JIM: from this and he was, he was kind of ridiculed, not ridiculed, but his career kind of suffered because, you know, pockets of the African-American community community were not supportive of this at all. Richard Pryor wrote the movie as well with Mel Brooks. was like, ⁓ Andrew Bergman, Norman Steinberg, ⁓ Mel Brooks, Richard Pryor and Alan Uygur. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: Mm-hmm. JIM: And, ⁓ you know, that was in Richard Pryor's phase where he, he, in his standup, he was using the N word a lot. And then he eventually got to the point where he like actually said, like, I don't feel good about doing this anymore. And he stopped. and so it's, it's just interesting looking back on it and you couldn't make it today because the conditions were just very different and like the, ⁓ LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: the creators were all kind of like on the same page of understanding what they wanted to say and how they wanted to go about kind of like making fun of racism in that way. ⁓ I think, I just think it works really well. ⁓ And it's like, it's silly dumb humor. Like the bean scene where they're all farting and burping and stuff is so funny. And there's a sign on the fence that says, Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Mm. ⁓ yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: ⁓ administrative personnel only, knock on barbed wire only if required, and it's like there's barbed wire on the fence and it's just like little details like that crack me up. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I do think like, I don't know if this movie needs to be made again, you know? Like, I think you can talk about these same, like these same themes in a comedic way today. And I think if you had the right team doing it, like, you know, I think if you got someone like ⁓ Donald Glover to do, to write a script along these lines with the, with the, what is that guy's name? JIM: ⁓ yeah, for sure. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: John Francis Daly who wrote Game Night and Dungeons and Dragons. I think if they teamed up to write something like this, it would be amazing. But I don't think we need this to be... Again, I'm not a remake kind of gal anyway. think we as a general, we have relied too much on remakes and we don't need that. I think we need... No, yeah, yeah. JIM: No. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: I wasn't saying like if it was remade like if it was the conditions for that being for the movie being made back then or were unique so LivDog: Right. Which makes sense. If Mel Brooks wrote this script and took it to Warner Brothers in 71, that's only four or five years removed, if that, from MLK's assassination, Malcolm X's assassination, the Civil Rights Movement. So I understand that. And also, we're in a similar place right now in our world, right? And so... Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. LivDog: The conditions are always going to be difficult, I think, to make movies that touch on something like this. ⁓ However, we've seen it more so with horror recently, right? Like with Jordan Peele's movies. ⁓ And those are pretty dark, but they're also funny at times. So again, you can make movies like this. You just have to be really funny about it. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: I think it expanded into short like like Key and Peel's Key and Peel are probably the ones who have successfully replicated the Blazing Saddles tone in terms of just you just making jokes and insightful and like overt about race and about, or about like being black, you know, and also about like being gay and stuff like, like they have some really funny sketches about, you know, just being gay. yeah. LivDog: I think that... But okay, you are, how familiar are you with In Living Color? So Walker, are you familiar with In Living Color? Okay. So that was a sketch comedy show in the nineties that had the Wayne's brothers and had ⁓ Jim Carrey on it. Like Jim Carrey, when he didn't make it onto SNL, he ended up getting onto the show called In Living Color. And they, I think in a similar vein. like, yes, I think more modern version of it, more recent version is Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. No. JIM: And that's what I meant. LivDog: Key and pill but like let's the the waynes brothers the the whole waynes family have really truly I think hit on similar themes throughout their careers and you see that a lot with Right. Yeah, and you see that with in living color there was There there's one that I remember my my mom referenced a lot growing up and it's something I've seen a couple times where one of them Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. JIM: Yeah, Dwight Chicks like reversed it. LivDog: I can't remember which brother it is, they're basically he's playing like a gay man and he saw some movie called the Black Stallion and he's like, and I was so upset because Denzel Washington was not in that movie. And it was just really, really funny cause you know, Denzel Washington's the Black Stallion. And so, so I think that in a lot of ways, Blazing Saddles blaze the trail for the Wayne's brothers for Key and Peel for Donald Glover, for these really big names that we are familiar with now that, and you know, like what you were saying earlier, Isaac, about airplane, yeah, this Blazing Saddles in a lot of ways is probably one of the really biggest and most well-known satirical works that allowed for all the things that we are so familiar with now, right? JIM: Mm-hmm. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: with Airplane, with Naked Gun, you know, Later Down the Road, I think even with like SNL and that kind of stuff, right? like all of those people will easily point to Mel Brooks as being one of the biggest influences to in the world of comedy. I don't think we have comedy in the state that it is right now or has been for the past 50 something years. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: ⁓ yeah. LivDog: if it wasn't for Mel Brooks. He has huge influence. I think you could point to any major comedian now and they would say, yeah, Mel Brooks is a huge inspiration. Native American Mel: Yeah, I mean, they just released that documentary about him for his birthday that has so many people, I think so, citing him as a huge influence. LivDog: Yeah. JIM: Is he gonna be 100 this year? Geez, that's LivDog: He's 100 this year. So. Yeah, I mean, what he's he he also is, ⁓ to me, he's kind of similar to, what is his name? Norm Lear, that's who I was thinking of Norm Lear, in the sense of like he pioneered a lot of stuff and blazed the trail for a lot of different voices to be heard and discussed. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. LivDog: Am I being played off right now? You know, because Norm Lear also did a lot of different sitcoms growing up. Or I said growing up, they were all before our time. you know, he did all in the family. He did the Jeffersons. The Jeffersons dropped the N-word on like basic cable. ⁓ So that was a huge deal. But anyway, so I just think like we don't get... Native American Mel: Hehehehe JIM: No. He wore his blazing saddle. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. LivDog: comedy without these pioneers like Norman Lear, like Mel Brooks. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yeah, I really, I really respect, I think this movie and Mel Brooks and like, he's not afraid to be silly and not afraid to obviously take like big risks. Cause it's like very easily the end of this movie could have not been funny. Like very easily it could have just fallen flat. And so it was a big risk to break the fourth wall in that way and break a bunch of other walls in the process. But like, JIM: we aim. LivDog: Mm-hmm. Sure, yeah. Native American Mel: It works really well and I think it's because yeah, they're having fun. Like they are having fun making this movie They're having fun writing it and it comes across in the filmmaking and so I think I just respect that so much and Yeah, we need more people out there being silly Let's get some more silly movies JIM: 2 things that you reminded me of Walker is 1. the toll booth where they are all lined up in a line and then when they ride into town it's literally a Looney Tunes gag where it's all the storefronts but they just all fall down ⁓ Native American Mel: Yeah, yeah. Damn it, someone's gotta go get a bunch of Dom's. LivDog: hahahahah Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Yeah, that is a Looney Tunes gag. JIM: and then like they they blow him up and there's that scene where the horse is just shot like hundreds of feet into the air LivDog: hahahaha Native American Mel: Yeah, ⁓ That makes you think of a scene too, I love and I looked something up about it and it's actually apparently based off of something that Mel Brooks saw when Mongo knocks the horse out Just punches it and knocks it out That's apparently based off of Bill Brooks was hanging out with someone time and a horse kicked the dude's wife off So he punched the horse in the face JIM: ⁓ huh. Hohohohoho LivDog: That's amazing. JIM: Yeah, I love that they like, he punched the dude and he like, or he punched the horse and they like trained the horse to fall down. I was like, oh man, so good. I did see, so I was, I, my daughter fell asleep at like eight o'clock and I was like, okay, I gotta go, you know, watch what I can or do research or whatever. And it's not on HBO Max anymore. And I don't know if that's like part of what's going on with the, uh, freaking Ellison's. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: That's so funny. ⁓ Native American Mel: Hmm. LivDog: ⁓ yeah. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: getting ready to acquire it or something, but it's like not on there anymore. And it was on there as part of like the TCM and there was like a trigger warning and contextual introduction and stuff like that and it's not there anymore. So yeah, I'm gonna have to buy it before it just disappears. LivDog: Yeah. Native American Mel: ⁓ yeah, I had to rent it. LivDog: I also had to rinse it. Native American Mel: Mm-hmm. LivDog: Yeah, that's probably a call. ⁓ Isaac Walter did send a voice memo of his thoughts. I don't know if you want to splice that in. How do you want to go about that? I just want you to be aware of the fact he did send us a voice memo. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Okay. I will let Walter edit it in. LivDog: Okay, Cool. JIM: since he's producing. So any other thoughts on this movie or our next movie or just, know, I don't know, thoughts you're having about theology? Because I know Walter's gonna love that, yeah. Native American Mel: Am I hanging out with Walter right now? Am I hanging out with Walter? Walter and I... If you're gonna talk about the movie, go, because I'm not. I wasn't going to at least. LivDog: How much time do we have? I think all in all, go ahead. Okay, I was gonna say, I think all in all, this was a funny movie and I'm glad I watched it. I wish I had enjoyed it and loved it as much as you, Isaac. However, I'm glad that you somehow got us to watch it through this episode. So had a great time, enjoyed it. Would watch it with a group of people. I don't know if I'd seek it out on my own. Native American Mel: Yeah. Yep. LivDog: I think that's also part of my problem. I watch it by myself and sometimes I need to be with other people to really enjoy a movie. Native American Mel: Me too. JIM: But see, that's how, for me personally, that's how I know, like, if I'm completely by myself and I'm, like, Bottoms was the same way. Like, Bottoms, I was like crying laughing throughout the whole movie, and Blazing Saddles was the same way, and like, I was at home watching Blazing Saddles for the first time, and I was watching Bottoms in a theater, and with one other guy, who was in his 50s probably, so, who was not laughing, that I could tell. So, anyway. Native American Mel: Yeah. LivDog: Sure. Yeah. with one other guy. Yeah, anyway. Native American Mel: Nice nice. ⁓ LivDog: Boo. Walker, what were you gonna say? JIM: about theology. Native American Mel: I was gonna say ⁓ Walter and I did something yesterday that I've not done in a long time and it was, ⁓ we did two guys in a computer. Have you guys ever done that? You know that famous move? So that's when two guys, usually white men, just hang, it's similar I guess. They hang out around a computer and they just show each other YouTube videos. LivDog: I don't even know what that means. JIM: Is that like two girls, one cup? LivDog: No. JIM: D'oh! You LivDog: ⁓ so middle school. Native American Mel: Yeah, we did that for like three hours yesterday, so it's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Two guys in a computer. Yep. LivDog: Okay, that was just a middle school sleepover for me. JIM: Two guys, one computer. LivDog: Okay, that's fine. That's fine. Would you do it again? Mmm. JIM: What if we made a movie about that? That would be funny. Native American Mel: two guys, one computer. That could be good. You can... JIM: Yeah. LivDog: Should we start working on that script? JIM: Is that a really good idea? Native American Mel: Yeah. Let me sleep on it. Let me take some melatonin and sleep on it and then I'll let you know in the morning. JIM: Let's all have a melatonin nightmare and then, right. LivDog: I don't have melatonin nightmares. Native American Mel: Yeah, I know that's like a meme. I have awesome dreams when I take melatonin. LivDog: I just don't remember my dreams, which is fine. I don't want to. Normally if I do remember anything, it's not good, so not a good time. JIM: Really. I had a crazy dream a couple weeks ago and I can't remember what it was. But when I woke up, I remembered what it was and I told Jess and I was like, that was crazy. And now I can't remember. LivDog: And Jess was like, okay. I'm just kidding, she was not like that, I'm sure. Native American Mel: Yeah, just describing a dream to someone has to be one of the most painful experiences you can have. It sucks. It's never as interesting as anything. That's all I would tell my dude. LivDog: ⁓ huh. Imagine being a therapist. JIM: Do your patients talk to you about their dreams? Really? LivDog: Sometimes I'll hear clients talk about their dreams and usually it's me going, so what does that mean to you? Sometimes it's very blatantly obvious and they're like, I don't know. I'm like, could it mean that maybe you feel trapped? And it's like, ⁓ huh. But sometimes it's like really weird stuff that I'm like, your guess is as as mine, Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Yeah. Native American Mel: ⁓ I- Yeah, I would tell everyone that their dream meant that a drought or famine's coming and they need to get the king to store up a bunch of grain. JIM: Sounds like a melatonin nightmare. LivDog: Thanks. I, you know what? I'm going to start doing that. I'm going to start doing that. I hope, I hope the next client that comes in my office and tells me about their dream is really super religious. So I can't do that. JIM: So good, Walker. Native American Mel: Thanks. Yeah. I think... Yeah, yeah, yeah. JIM: I'm not gonna lie, like reading that section of Exodus just kind of like annoys me because I'm like every time I get to it I try to figure it out beforehand like I've read this passage like dozens of times, I'm like how did he arrive at that conclusion? Was something lost in translation? It doesn't make sense. Native American Mel: Yeah. Well, can I also say, it also is interesting that no one had ever thought of saving food before. Like they never were like, maybe we shouldn't eat all the food all the time. And they're like, dude, you're a genius, bro. You're really, you're like really smart. LivDog: Probably. Mm. JIM: Hmm. or like waste food and yeah. LivDog: Yeah JIM: Ha ha ha LivDog: I mean, at that point in time, people had been around for very long, right? So, I don't know. Native American Mel: Well, I guess it depends, Olivia. How old do you think the Earth is? How old is the Earth? JIM: and then the skinny cows ate the fat cows. LivDog: That's true. I really don't know. And this question makes me want to throw up every time I really think about it. I think we should end this episode. JIM: Thank you for listening, please remember to rate, review, and subscribe. Thanks to Walter Lyle for producing this episode, thanks to me for doing the musical cues. Thank you to both of you for indulging me on one of my favorite movies, even though someone did recommend it. Probably Zack. TBD. Yeah. Native American Mel: Hahaha ⁓ that could be it. That could be it. Let me see if he texted me his recommendations. LivDog: Mmm. JIM: Yeah, that would be good. LivDog: Are we gonna wait for Walker to find that? Okay, we're, dang, okay. You gotta find it now. JIM: Yeah, we're waiting. We're waiting. Yeah. Yeah. Native American Mel: okay. I'm not moving. I gotta go quick. ⁓ let me say it. I don't know where he would. I didn't see it in the text. Another favorite quote from this movie. They said you was home. They was right. So funny. LivDog: Let's do this. JIM: Let's do this. Did it make it into the movie? ⁓ he, when he's with, ⁓ Lily von Stupp and he's like, I hate to disappoint you, but you're, that's just my arm or something like that. LivDog: Hahaha! Uhhh... Native American Mel: No, think that's like the one thing that he agreed to cut. JIM: They cut that. Yeah, yeah. Headly Lamar is like, how did he do such fantastic stunts with such little feet? And he's like, in the face down in the concrete at ⁓ the Chinese theater. ⁓ man, so good. ⁓ man, all right, well, this was a good time. I guess we can just ride off into the sunset now, so. Native American Mel: You Yep. Yep, might have a couple of ⁓ Dublin drops next week on our episode. LivDog: Ayo! JIM: Yes, recording reminders of him on St. Patrick's Day. LivDog: We're recording it on St. Patrick's Day. It's coming out two days later though. JIM: Yep, but we are gonna be drunk? LivDog: who will still be hungover two days later. Native American Mel: Yeah. JIM: Yeah, they said you was hungover. They was right. Native American Mel: They was right. LivDog: That was right. JIM: Yeah, and I'll end this with Headley the Mars, go do whatever it is you do. He said, you will be risking your lives and I will almost certainly be risking an Academy Award nomination. Native American Mel: You What? LivDog: I don't like our president. JIM: Yeah. Nice.