speaker-0: Action! We're live! Nice! And you can hear me? speaker-1: Yeah Yeah, action here, yeah. speaker-0: Okay, I can hear you. in theory, this should work. All right, well, welcome back. Here's the theme song. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: You get copyright on this stuff or not? speaker-1: Nah. speaker-0: This has been my speaker-1: Nice. speaker-0: Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. This is actually the first one, it's not without, without lots of Mahi behind the scenes. speaker-1: Yeah, this is actually episode two, take one. No, take two of episode one. speaker-0: you look at it. We recorded a full episode before. speaker-1: The unnamed podcast, so we're still working on that, but thanks for everyone for tuning in. I'm Ed Masters. speaker-0: I'm Charlie Murray. speaker-1: And, speaker-0: I've been actually selling us as washed up around the globe on my travels. speaker-1: Yeah, washed up's good. Washed up's good. speaker-0: Watch others go simple and we can go surfing and it counts, you know? speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, and you never know where you're wash up. speaker-0: Yeah. ⁓ well, we have you washed up recently, man. I can't keep up what's been happening since the last saw you. speaker-1: ⁓ so I've recently just in the last one hour, I've been down at Gorge road for the first time in about God six or seven years. ⁓ I've been slowly building a jump bike up over the six or seven years since I last had one and, ⁓ me and Dave and Cole went down there and, ⁓ dusted off the cobwebs, which was quite somewhat terrifying, but, The muscle memory came back and we managed to get out of there unscathed, hit some of the good lines, which was good. speaker-0: ⁓ It's pretty humbling, I reckon, that sort of stuff. speaker-1: Yeah, well, you kind of like, hit the baby ones and then you're like, oh, wow. You know, I kind of got to go and ride the bigger lines now. And it's like, fuck me. This is, you know, you're riding at a pretty steep lift and you're like, okay, I know what I got to do, but you doing it for the first time is kind of scary. That was sick. I'm stoked. Yeah. speaker-0: But second is still there, because they've been through a few troubles recently. Every five years, there's some sort of debacle. speaker-1: Yeah. And we specifically went down at like two o'clock when no one would be there. I didn't want to get seen. speaker-0: How did Dave and Colga? speaker-1: Pretty good. Yeah. Like, uh, I don't know. You can just tell everyone grew up writing hardtails. So it all comes back pretty quick. Um, speaker-0: Yeah, mean, your day's pretty good and I guess Cole... Sorry, go ahead. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah. Cole's pretty handy. He goes good. Yeah. So, yeah, now that's what I've been up to. And then just came back from the coast, went to chase some Shaka Mahalo's down in Riverton, but never really got the Shaka Mahalo's. speaker-0: All right. What was the swodor? Was it too big or not enough? speaker-1: Uh, yeah, there was meant to be a big swell and there was a big swell, but it was just all blown out. yeah, but it was just nice to get down the coast. And then what else have been up to? Running a bit of motorbikes. Um. speaker-0: Were you away? Oh, you're doing the NZ rally, speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. We can dive into that. That was pretty sick. Yeah. think it's my ⁓ blind racing is my new, ⁓ chosen form of racing, I reckon. speaker-0: Pretty suck, hey. You did very well as well. took it out. speaker-1: Yeah, I mean, it's the dethrone the king Blinky. Oh, it was pretty funny. um, and I was, I was like letting it, I was rubbing it into him too. was like, I was like, bro, you, you're not that, you're not that good anymore. And he was getting, nah, he was hating it. speaker-0: Jason. You wouldn't have liked that one bit. You would not have liked that. speaker-1: Cause I beat him by like 50 seconds at the gorge and he'd never been beaten at the gorge. And he was like, it was super bummed. And I was just, and then he smoked me the next day on like the easiest stuff. ⁓ so yeah, I definitely lit a fire within him, but he'd done a massive mission. was, he was, ⁓ he raced Crankworx downhill on Saturday night or Saturday evening in Rotorua. and then drove all through the night caught like a 3am ferry and raced at the gorge the next morning. So yeah, yeah. I wasn't surprised. And, ⁓ and then afterwards he went hunting. speaker-0: Yeah, classic Jason, He's like the energizer bunny. But he does get tired, but he just... You can see him, he's like, looks real tired, but he'll just act normal. speaker-1: Yeah, he doesn't want to show any signs of weakness. speaker-0: Nah, nah, he's so competitive. mean, we all are, but, ⁓ I remember I've been in the odd downhill race over the years, pretty much by luck, but, but he does not take that well, or if you beat him in seeding, then you'll, you'll watch as him come down and race around. He's just peddling everywhere. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. It was funny. doing, we did the rally with Dylan Crane, an American guy who, he races a bunch. He used to race heaps of crank waxes and stuff. And me and Dylan were like joking because Dylan's beaten Blinky in a couple of like dual slaloms. he's like, yeah, he's like, he was saying like, he was almost scared of Blinky beating Blinky because Blinky is just so pissed off after losing. Yeah. So then me and Dylan- speaker-0: It's not worth it. Hey, you may as well as speaker-1: Yeah, so I was getting Dylan in on like winding up Blinky. It was pretty good. Yeah. the, ⁓ the rally, the rally was sick. was like, I'd love to go and do one of those races, like with all your like tight mates. It would be so sick. Cause it's like, it's kind of like a holiday, but most people are treating it like a holiday cause it's all organized. ⁓ you basically turn up and it's like airport to airport. Everything's included all your own travel and everything. And, Yeah. The riding around Nelson was insane. like six pretty sick days and they lean pretty heavy on the shuttles. it's like, mainly, mainly descending. was a pretty slick operation. Like you're never waiting around for the shuttles at all. just like, there's no kind of like order of how the race goes. You just kind of show up to the start line. ⁓ yeah. And I hadn't run out the gorge so long. ⁓ You forget how like sick it is out there. And then Cable Bay was insane. Yeah. speaker-0: Gorge is so good. Gorge. Everyone has to do the gorge before they die. speaker-1: Yeah. Me and Blankey had a... Me and Blankey, ⁓ cause on, after, I think on the third day was, or the third or fourth day was cable bay. And then the weather was looking kind of windy for the, they have a day where you shuttle with the helicopter, which is pretty mean. ⁓ speaker-0: before they die. And ⁓ no. I'll walk away then. speaker-1: Waka Maruna, yeah. And then, um, so they said, oh, like we're going to do a, um, delayed start. everyone, everyone had such a sick day at Cableway. We're like leaning into a few beers at Cableway and then we're like, get back to the thing and having a few more beers. So then we, and then we ended up at dinner and we're splitting a few Guinnesses. Jason came out and we ended up on a speaker-0: These were speaker-1: Bit of a hater on a Wednesday night in Nelson. I didn't get back till pretty late. then, so we're pretty dusty for the helicopter days. And then we were all pretty tight in the times, ⁓ me, Dylan and Sam. speaker-0: Yeah, look real tight. speaker-1: Yeah, I think on that day, after four days, I was leading by like six seconds. speaker-0: which is nothing, it's just one little, one little scurr-up. speaker-1: And then so, ⁓ we'd got back cause Dylan, everyone was on different shots. Me and Sam were on a similar, helicopter. like we were riding together, but Dylan went a bit further ahead of us and he, crashed and like broke his derailleur and me and Blinky were like, ⁓ man, this is like a gift from God. Cause now we were just like, ⁓ we'll just ride together and get the same times for this day. Cause we were like a bit dusty. Yeah. And it was funny as cause the Waka Marina one, it's like, you're kind of riding on like walking tracks. Kind of sketchy. Yeah, super sketchy and like pretty hard to navigate. We were like, we're just taking turns and the person at the front if they crashed or like missed a turn, you just like switch the lead and it was so good. speaker-0: Yeah. That's so much fun, it's like trophy of nations. for the whole week. speaker-1: For the whole week, basically did, if there were six stages, we'd do four stages like racing normal. And then we'd do one gentleman's agreement where you weren't allowed to pedal. And so we'd do it race a chainless stage, like full just, you can't pedal. no cheese. Yeah. Honestly, blocks. And then we would do one where we all ride in a train and just all get the same time. Yeah. And it was so sick. was like, yeah. speaker-0: The trains are fun. speaker-1: And then we just switched the lead in the, like on the cable Bay one, did like a top to bottom. ⁓ we, yeah, gamble Jurassic. We switch the lead like eight times. Yeah. Yeah. Just like someone pulls over and then the train passes and they jump on the back. Like what we did at trophy nations. speaker-0: But they're so fun. The switchovers are always good because you're like, go, go, go. And you like pull up, stop. Someone comes boosting through, you hook in and it's just like makes, it adds another element. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, and then you're you're revving up the guy at the front and then he like crashes or blows off a turn and then yeah, it was sick. speaker-0: Yeah, that's true. You can heckle from the back as well. speaker-1: Yeah, and it's real funny. ⁓ As soon as someone's out in front, they're kind of going a bit harder than you think they would be. speaker-0: You're the same. people are following you, you can't just want to drop them or try to drop them. And then when you're following, you're like, yeah, you want to hang on their wheel like close. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. yeah, no, had an absolute blast. So shout out to Allie and all the crew who put it on. was, ⁓ couldn't recommend it anymore. So if anyone wants to do a New Zealand, ⁓ riding trip, that's a good way to spend a week riding around Nelson. speaker-0: on the best trials. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. And I thought like it is, it is expensive, but then like, if you break it down, it's everything's organized, your travel, your logistics, like food, everything, you just turn up. So. ⁓ speaker-0: That's just the ease factor. That's worth thousands. The ease factor. speaker-1: Yeah. We need to, we need to try and get one going where we all go, like get the gang back together and go and do one. Yeah. The one I did in Mexico was insane. Um, and Mexico is just such a cool country to be. Yeah. Um, but I think they're all, they're all sick. I was, I was saying to, um, the boys, would be mean if you, so if you had like 10, or let's say like there were 10 of you. speaker-0: Was it here in Norte? ⁓ speaker-1: but you all bought a bike, you might not necessarily ride it every day. And so like all the bikes get numbered and numbers go into a hat and each day you pick out a different number and you might end up riding that bike. So you could like gamble on switching other people up by bringing an absolute piece of shit, but you might also pull that number and have to ride it. speaker-0: So you could bring an absolute piece of shit that you can actually ride. So everyone else would freak out but you know the intricacies of that bike and you can get down on it. speaker-1: Yeah, or just like, just bet like if I had a pivot cross country bike and you're doing like a gnarly enduro. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, bring the whatever the Mark 6 or like an epic, know, full size epic. speaker-1: It'll be funny as I reckon. speaker-0: I just sold my XEY, but okay. It's gone to a good home. It's going to get thrashed around Wanaka. ⁓ speaker-1: How was the trans test? speaker-0: Wow. This is, was thinking so much when you were talking before I was like, shit, it just sounds exactly the same, but we had me and Kev, Jack Moyer at Trans Taz and then you and Jason at NZ Rally. So I'm like, ⁓ yeah, next year we'll just do it all four or five of us together. And Jack's actually keen. said he would make his ⁓ exception for leaving Australia to come and do NZ Rally or a New Zealand race. But Trans Taz was epic, Like Medina's always sick. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah. speaker-0: And we had two days there, like top to bottoms, quite a few shuttles. pretty much like the EWS, but it was a bit more fun because you don't have to pedal when it goes up. just like cruise. So it'd be like a fire road climb and me and Jack were just, we were doing truck and trailer. So we'd just ride up together and then just chat and be like, oh yeah, this is sort of a pedal hero. And we're like, just sit down, spin and then drop back in. And Tom Locke, the young Yeti kid from Aussie, he was smoking us on a lot of them. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-0: We were just cruising, but it was so nice. Like I really enjoyed racing without just, cause as long as when you're racing a hundred percent, it doesn't really feel good. Kind of feels a bit shit. speaker-1: No, we always say that, ⁓ AWS racing, if, if it, if it feels good, you're probably not going hard enough. speaker-0: Yeah, exactly. And this felt good almost the whole time, which was really nice for a change. And two days, Maydina, then we went, drove through to Queenstown. Have you been to Queenstown? speaker-1: I actually live there. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the other, the other riding destination, which is not quite the same as Queensland, New Zealand. It's, it's a mining town and it's had its heyday a little while ago. ⁓ there's probably like five or six hotels on the main street and no one there. Really? Yeah. It was a pretty buzzy place. And what happened is they, were mining and they use a lot of sulfate or sulfuric acid to extract the gold from the rocks. Some mining expert will have to correct me here, but sulfuric acid is used or sulfate and then when it rains it becomes sulfuric acid and then something happened where it would get sucked up out of the rivers and the forest and the landscape into the clouds and it would rain and it was just acid rain. So the mining created acid rain. So it's basically new to the whole climate. So there's like a, basically a radius of two or three kilometers around this mine with just nothing growing. It's like the moon. It just looks like the moon. speaker-1: Yeah, because I saw some of the clips and it looked quite bizarre. I was like, where is that? Like, was nothing like I would expect Tazzy to look like. speaker-0: No. And then you drive like an hour down the road, not even drive 20 minutes down the road and there's like massive rainforest and everything. apparently the acid rain stopped now. Yeah. Which is good. Cause we didn't get burned or anything. Yeah. But man, was such a sick race and I had to leave early cause I had to go to Taiwan for this thing. Which is a whole nother story we'll get into in a minute. But yeah, I would highly recommend Trans Tans. I was thinking we should just literally. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: put together like four or five of these blind multi-day enduro's and just put like, everyone is putting a grant and just get 10 people together, 10 of the fastest dudes in the world and just go around and these four races. And then when it takes, takes home everything. speaker-1: Yeah. Well, think ⁓ there has been some kind of discussion amongst the people who run these trans races trying to make it into a series that appeals to someone wanting to do a series of them. Because you've got Trans Madeira, Trans BC, Sierra Norte. And there was another one in Mexico, Trans Azteca. Now you've got Trans Taz. When I was in... ⁓ Mexico, there was a guy from Brazil ⁓ who was, he had been racing a few of them and he was just basically doing like R &D on what would make it good for the, when he wants to do one in Brazil. Yeah. Cause it's like, it's a sick format and people, no one's coming out of it being like, ⁓ I didn't really enjoy it. Everyone's frothing. speaker-0: Yeah, sick. Everyone loves it. And you just have beers afterwards. have burgers and stuff like just the vibes and everyone wants to yarn. We met so many good bastards there. This young girl from Christchurch who was racing. never met her before, but she was real sound. And then there was just a lot of these dads and frothers who, a lot of E-bike crew. They were just loving it. One guy, a couple of guys, Jack and Sharpie had these massive crashes and we can sort of see them coming down the moon, the moonscape. And then just like. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-0: full tuck front, bleeding and and, me and Moira were just looking at each other like, ⁓ this is getting a bit exciting. ⁓ but so good. So good to hang out with Moira again too. Like I never see that guy when we're not at the races. ⁓ so to have a week just, I was just fucking just teasing him the whole time, tuning him up. Cause he likes his routine. He's a real creature of habit and he likes to. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: go to bed on time. Like he's just likes his, he's got his, his lifestyle. doesn't like other stuff getting in the way. speaker-1: He's staying in her- he runs her lane. speaker-0: He's definitely in his lane. And I was just teasing him because it was super cold. One morning it was single digits. We were walking to breakfast and I was just teasing him because he can't stand the cold. So having a good, good gig at his expense, but it was real fun hanging out. and then actually, I'm sorry. speaker-1: ⁓ I was just going to say, he's, he's on the missions. He's in career at the moment. speaker-0: Yeah, I think he's with Brendan doing some filming, is that right? speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess cause now Monsters on as a World Cup sponsor. Yeah. They got Teo, Brendan and Moa there maybe doing like a track preview or something, I reckon. Yeah. But that would be pretty funny. That's a good trio of characters. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, it's funny they're all quite different too. speaker-1: Yeah, but I think that's perfect. It's like monsters onto a good thing, like getting those guys to go on destinations. Yeah, because it's like, yeah, you've got three big, but different personalities, which is like, make some make for some entertaining content for sure. speaker-0: No robots allowed, ⁓ speaker-1: Nah, none at all. speaker-0: I was going to say, I had a really good catch up with Booker as well and and Tessie. speaker-1: Was hey, racing it? speaker-0: Nah, he was thinking about it, but he was just a bit, a bit busy with like Crankworx NZ or Crankworx Roto. then, ⁓ yeah, he's just been, he's been pretty busy on this. ⁓ he's building this track. I don't know where it is, somewhere near Hobart, but it looks sick. Like SportX kind of, it's kind of like, ⁓ know, green therapy like that, a Tasmanian version. speaker-1: Bye, everybody. speaker-0: And it's got Booker's creative flair sort of woven into it. I think I didn't get a chance to go and see it because I was just there for the night, but I might try get back there and check it out and maybe go for a dig with him. he's just like, Quite a little respect for the way he's approaching this year. He's just like wanting to do stuff that he's passionate about and these cool video projects and like so much stuff that I think. speaker-1: Here's the speaker-0: sponsors will just love it. speaker-1: Yeah, for sure. speaker-0: Yeah, and not to mention us, but we get to watch Booker ride. that's always... speaker-1: think Oregon is one of the best there is. speaker-0: Yeah. Not many people, you know, do like a T-Bog over the finish jump and then win the EWS. speaker-1: I was just cracking up the other day how he's great to sing hot bass pins in his garage. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. speaker-1: I was like, I kind of, kind of want to go do it, but I actually just, when I got my jump bike out before I was like messing around and trying to hop. I just smoked the inside of my knee on the frame and it was like, nah, not interested anymore. speaker-0: Yeah, fair enough. You have to really be, have that like obsessive, like either urban skier or like skate personality where you just lock in and just try and like repetition, try and nail one thing. speaker-1: Yeah, it's the skater mentality. You've got to like, you've got to do a hundred goes at a 10-steer rail, just ragging up a hundred times and then you make it. And I'm like, I don't know if I have the skater mentality. speaker-0: But it's. Nah, you'll be tough as tough as anything. When I went for breakfast with Booker the day after, we're just yarning about life and riding and surfing and different things. And then we signed out. went to the airport and I was like, Oh, what are up to now? He's like, Oh, I'm off to the skate park. Got my dirt jumper in the back. Just going to go have a session at the skate park. He's like, yeah, I go down there most days. And I'm like, fuck, that's cool. speaker-1: Yeah speaker-0: That's what I should be doing with my life instead of, I don't know what I'm doing. All this admin. Yeah. but anyway. speaker-1: What's the, so you've both deep in this house. speaker-0: Yeah, well, I'll explain the Taiwan thing first chronologically and then we can get into the house stuff. But, ⁓ so yeah, the reason I left Tazzy early was Defender. Well, just this, this, this chick just messaged me on Instagram, like a sort of random account. speaker-1: I do that quite a lot, speaker-0: Nah. Nah, very rare actually. This is just a scam, just from a random account. Like wasn't an official account, wasn't verified. It wasn't a business account or anything. It was just a random personal profile. And she was saying, Oh, Hey Charlie, like we've got this Defina Trophy thing. Like I'm working for this agency in Singapore. you want to come? I was like, Oh yeah, this sounds cool. But I was a little bit weary because sometimes these things are a scam and they're trying to get you to send you bank details and all this, blah, blah. speaker-1: Arabian Prince. speaker-0: Well, exactly. Yeah. Some auntie died and left you a million dollars. Yeah. It's always nice. But, so I replied and eventually it turned out it was legit and they were like, Oh yeah, we'll, we'll cover all your costs. Just come to Taiwan and do this, this competition. think you'd be really good at it. And they said, Oh, can you send through any like footage of you doing adventures and things you've done before? It was like a vetting process. And I sent through. That Waitoto trip where me and Pasco and Jasper hiked over the Southern Alps and then down to the West coast. And then as soon as they watched that, they just replied, they're like, yep, you're in. And I was like, ⁓ that was easy. ⁓ So it's quite, it's quite lucky I had done that trip. Then we, they, ⁓ they thought I was business class. I didn't actually realize this. I check in to my flight and, in Tassie and. I go drop my bike off and you know how it's always a real hassle flying with bikes because they weigh it and it's too heavy. And then you don't have enough baggage and you have to buy an extra bag or if you buy two and don't split it in the right way, whatever. was like, Oh, it's going to be a nightmare. A bike so heavy. had so much stuff shoved in the box. And then I show up at the thing. She's like, take the boarding pass, scans it, puts the bike through and she's like, sweet. Like that's all good. And I was like, Oh, it's pretty heavy. I didn't say this, but I was looking at the scales. speaker-1: Mm. speaker-0: I was like, ⁓ I think that's overweight. she's all right. Have a good flight, Mr. Murray. And I'm like, all right. That was easy. And then I walk and they're looking my ticket. I'm like, one C and that's my seat. That's weird. I don't remember ever being at the front, like the front of the plane. I thought the seats just started at 10 or something. So I walk on and then I go to sit down like, ⁓ man, this thing's massive. And sure enough, I was in business class. speaker-1: Good. speaker-0: So that was a first for me. was sick and they'd come over, give me some champagne like, welcome Mr. Murray. How's your business going? Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yep. ⁓ Yeah, can't you tell? ⁓ And then got on the international one. That was just in Melbourne and then got on the international one to Hong Kong. And that was the full works. Like they were giving you meals, left-right and sitting there. I was turning away food, believe it or not, for me, that's pretty rare. And you have a full reclining bed. You can make it flat, put your feet up. So I was in heaven and then... shop in Hong Kong and they'd booked an airport hotel for me. So I just went there and checked in and they said, ⁓ Mr. Mo, we've actually upgraded you to the King's suite. Cause there was one available. man. So I was just going about my solo little luxury life of luxury through the, through Asia. then, eventually got to Kaohsiung in Southern Taiwan. And there was a guy with a sign waiting for me at the airport. speaker-1: You speaker-0: said like, defender. And then it was my name and another guy's name. And he took one look at me walking out of my bike box and he just started shaking his head. And then I asked him, said, is it okay? He said, no, no. So he just doesn't really speak English, but he just takes a photo. He gives his phone up, takes a photo of me with my bike box. And then he just walks off and then he finds the other guy who was, he can fit in his car. And then they sort of, we eventually get the message that I have to wait here. and someone will come for me. So I wait there for like half an hour and eventually this other guy shows up, but he also doesn't speak English. And he's, he's pretty... He's pretty confused about what he's up to. And so then I, he wanted me to come with him, but I was like, this is so dodgy. Cause I don't know this guy. He doesn't speak English. He's not like dressed officially or anything. He's just in street clothes. Looks kind of sketchy, but he's trying to get me to come with him because I was standing outside the Starbucks and that's where he was. That's where he was supposed to go or something. But I said to him, or do you have a photo of me? Cause the guy who organized the transfer. He sent you a photo of me. So if you can show me the photo of me on your phone, I'll come with you. Yeah. It didn't work because he didn't speak English. So I had to take him to the information center and information desk and get them to translate that I needed some proof before I get in with him. And then eventually there was like these three Taiwanese ladies there and they just were cracking up. They thought it was so funny, the whole situation. And then I started cracking up as well. And we were just all laughing. trying to figure this shit out and then eventually they're like, ⁓ no, he doesn't have a phone. What do mean? He's a cab driver, he doesn't have a phone. They're like, ⁓ no, he was in a rush to come here so he forgot his phone. speaker-1: Turn. speaker-0: I'm like, that's kind of sketchy, do you think it's all good? they're like, yeah, no, I think. No, but they said, no, this guy seems like legit. think you're all good to go with him. So I just went with him and he was legit. He had this van that was just a personal vehicle. like, it looked like one of our vehicles. was covered in rubbish. ⁓ know, half drunken coffees and blah, blah. And he just squeezed my bike in the back, took me straight to the front door of the Marriott and that was me. But then I also, ⁓ I was doing so much funny stuff. I, I had. My bike box there and all the people had never seen a bike box at the hotel because it's the middle of the city in Taiwan. So they didn't know what this white guy with a massive box was doing. then I excess had sent me some new kit, like helmets and stuff. So five boxes arrived from I excess while I was at the hotel. So on the first day I was got there, I said, Oh, can you take them out to my room? So I can like go through them and organize them. So they took, had to take six boxes up through the elevator on their trolley and then to my place and they couldn't fit them all at once. So was like a big palaver. then I didn't get a chance to go through them because we're in a bit of a rush getting organized for this thing. We left at six AM the next morning. So I just left all the boxes in the room and just told the people downstairs, Oh, can you please bring the boxes back down? So then they just had to go up, bring them all back down. And then we checked out of the hotel for one night. and camped at this thing and then came back to the hotel the next night and then I just asked them because they sent all the six boxes back up to my room again. So by the end of it, just felt like such a dickhead, but they were really good about it. And I still haven't managed to get it all back to New Zealand. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah speaker-0: That was pretty funny. The top one was sick. speaker-1: What is the Defender Challenge? speaker-0: Have you seen the, the camel trophy in Africa, like from about 30 or 40 years ago when they go through Africa and defenders and they're sort of like pulling them across rivers on barges and like floating them on bits of wood and all this sort of stuff. Does that ring a bell? speaker-1: Nah. Nah, I haven't come across that. But it's like that. speaker-0: Okay. So it was like a race that Camel and Defender set up in like the eighties or nineties, a race across Africa. And everyone was just given the exact same truck and there were teams of two and you just had to problem solve. You had flat tires, you would break down, get, you know, attacked by wild animals, whatever. So this is how it started. And then it stopped for years. And then they decided they were to start it up again. So this is the first time it's come back. and they are doing like 10 different qualifiers around the world. Well, I don't know, around 10. And they take two people from each qualifier to go to Africa for the final and they do a similar thing, but it's a conservation focus. I know in the past they've helped to save some rhinos working with this tusk foundation. I don't know exactly what we're going to be doing. But this was a qualification, one in Taiwan. And because New Zealand is the same region as Asia Pacific. So all the Asian countries and New Zealand were together in this qualification. we had Indonesia. Singapore, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand, all these sorts of places. And New Zealand, there four Kiwis there. And then you just compete and it's two days of physical challenges, problem solving stuff, navigation, four wheel driving. That was real fun. They just give you a brand new defender and you'd have to do a time trial around like a four wheel driving course. And then there's heaps of trees and stuff. I was just kind of got comfortable like knowing where the sides of the vehicle were. then you know, when you driving your own van or your own vehicle and you know exactly where the front is when you're turning around something. Swing it. So I was just like, just sending it through this forest. Just like, I didn't want to do a three point turn. So on the tight corners, I just like crank it and just go. And I'm like, Oh, if I tag a tree, it's doesn't really, it's not my vehicle. So it was actually really fun. Hey. And then they're pretty sick. You just press this button and it will go up by like half a foot, the whole vehicle. And then you just can go through deep. speaker-1: Yeah. It's not your car. speaker-0: ruts and mud and stuff, but they built this, they'd built a manmade four wheel driving course. So they'd hold out these big like pits and fill them with water. And then they made this mud section. They built like a side slope, so a big berm, but it's like a straight berm and you just drive, but you had to have one of your wheels like on a certain place. Cause there was obstacles there. So you would like going across on a big slope. They built a rock garden, like a massive. manmade rock garden with boulders like, you know, half a meter in diameter. ⁓ so yeah, it was pretty, pretty sick. And then they had physical challenges, which was quite. speaker-1: Yeah, I going ask what kind of physical challenges did you have to do? speaker-0: Being a mountain biker was actually pretty helpful. All the gym training and like training we do kind of crossed over really well. So was thinking, I was thinking Bernard would be really good at this. Apart from you do have to be quite sensitive when you're working with the team. So not saying Bernard's not sensitive, but... speaker-1: He expects a lot from his team members. speaker-0: Yeah, you really had to play to the weakest link at some places, but the physical challenges were all five minute max reps. So they, do it individually and you have five minutes to complete as many revolutions or reps as you can. One of them, had to carry like a log that was pretty heavy, probably like 80 kg or something around a tree as many times as you could in five minutes. So on that one, I had a 20, 24 laps around the tree or something. And then they had one, had to pull like a tractor tire on a rope and a pulley up above like a high, high thing. And then back down and do that as many times, but it couldn't touch the ground. So by the end, your forearms were just burning and I actually was wearing gloves, but through my gloves that like burnt my hands and I got blisters just from the rope burning through all the friction. So I about 40 of those and then they had hurdles. You had to go like over a hurdle, under a hurdle, over a hurdle, around a tree, back again and around another tree and that counts as one lap. So there are 12 of those laps in five minutes, but five minutes is a long time to be going max. speaker-1: Hey! Of those, reckon the... pulling the tractor tire off the ground, reckon that sounds horrible. speaker-0: It's like, you know when you... speaker-1: Yeah, watching it up. doing that. Yeah, it sounds that, reckon that would be tough. speaker-0: You know when you race like a Petson stage and you get to the bottom and your hands like you can't really control them? And you are trying to make them grip, but they don't listen. speaker-1: Well, you're pulling the brakes and the brake just keeps going on. speaker-0: Yeah, So this, so kind of felt like that, like you're gripping this rope, but you got to a point where your arms were so cramped up and like lactic acid in your forearms that you couldn't really grip it or release it. You just were sort of like in rigor mortis. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: But anyway, that all went really well and I think I was one of the, I think I was the best on a few of them and yeah, pretty much best on most of them. Maybe there's one other Kiwi guy was really strong as well and he did some good, um, some good raps. It's a good manner, but it's kind of unfair. Like they send like a, you know, 40 or 50 kg girl, like some really small, um, girl with Asian descent. And then against a Pakeha like me who's speaker-1: He had some good mana. speaker-0: You know, 80 kgs and the tie weighs the same and the log weighs the same. So like, how's that fair? speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah, so it kind of needs, yeah, that doesn't really make any sense. It kind of needs to be handicapped at some like, you know, give. speaker-0: Yeah, I'm not sure how it was scored. Maybe it was scored differently for girls and boys. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. So you did you end up winning or you had? I got you. Hello. speaker-0: ⁓ you're all good. yeah. So I ended up winning me and this other guy, Ron. There's two winners. it's cause there's two spots. Yeah. Ron was a bit of a G he's a high rocks athlete. know, high rock. I don't actually know what high rocks is, but everyone talks about it. speaker-1: Yeah. It's like, I have no idea what it is, but I just see it as like a new name for CrossFit. speaker-0: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But I think it's CrossFit, but something about having to a mile in between or something. speaker-1: Hmm. speaker-0: Mum, do you know about high rocks? No, Mum's never heard of it. It can't be that important then. Nah, anyway. yeah, so he was a high-ranks athlete and he was a real legend. ⁓ there's actually a few real good buggers I met there. Met some crew from Singapore and they're like real into their wake surfing. So they invited me to come over and catch up with them and do some wake surfing. So next time I'm flying through Singapore, I might stop off for a day. Yeah. ⁓ and then we actually went for a little surf trip down in Kenting in Southern Taiwan. with two, well, with three of the boys from, from the trophy. Cause I just met them there and they're like, ⁓ we're also staying in Taiwan for a few days. So I linked up with them for two nights. ⁓ went out for, for a surf, one of the instructors from the trophy thing owned a surf rental shop. So he read to us the boards. ⁓ yeah, it was a pretty cool trip. speaker-1: Shut up. Sounds epic. speaker-0: Guess how high the tall is mountain on the islanders. speaker-1: 1600 meters. speaker-0: I'll you reference. I think. The highest mountains are over 3.8. speaker-1: VIZZAH! Wait, I might have lost you. speaker-0: Yeah, these are. speaker-1: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: Did hear me? They're higher than us in Taiwan. I knew it. They got snow and stuff up there. speaker-1: Can I skate? speaker-0: I should actually fact check this. I don't think people are really scared. speaker-1: Yeah. ⁓ I was chatting to Jimmy R- speaker-0: 4,000 meters. Yeah, 3952. So I go ahead, Jimmy. speaker-1: Jimmy Ramsey has been building the South Korea World Cup track. Yeah, he was saying that he really hopes that the weather turns it on because it could be another snow race for round one. speaker-0: Yeah, and if I were to be complaining if that's the case. speaker-1: Yeah, but. ⁓ speaker-0: I always feel sorry for the LOC. speaker-1: Yeah, well, it's, you can't really control certain things, but you're just doing a COVID swab. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, I've been feeling real shit the last couple of days. And it's one of two things, either COVID or being 30. speaker-1: Probably- Probably COVID, bro. City's all good. speaker-0: Yeah true, you must be about 40 now, ⁓ speaker-1: 36. Been, I really need to get into stretching. I've no, I've decided, um, we did a little bit of stretching the other day and I was like, you know, this is probably something I should be leaning into as in my, in my age. Um, so yeah, did a little bit of a lower back workout this morning at the gym. Um, you know, just trying to, and lower back and hammies, good stretch. So that's something I'm planning on bringing into my program a bit more. speaker-0: I think that's a good idea. I've been doing, I've been trying this new thing, obviously not because I'm sick today, when I'm in Christchurch, I try and go to the gym every day. Um, even if it's just for like half an hour or 45 minutes, but it just means that I just don't have to think. just go to the gym and I'll do, depending on how I'm feeling, I've got like a couple of strength workouts. We do squats and bench press and pull ups and blah, blah. But then the other times I just do stretching. And like core work and it's been so good. I actually feel way better. And my back's not as sore because I've been strengthening like the front. Cause from biking, you get real tight in the front. So you got to stretch it. But then also they reckon if you strengthen it, the tight parts of the front can relax because the other muscles strengthen. Cause it's called a pseudo strength. So it means like one of your muscles in your hip flexor will lock up like a, you know, like speaker-1: ⁓ speaker-0: like iron and just hold so that it means you can hold that position of biking and keep putting power down. So if you strengthen all the other muscles around the hip flexor, then that muscle that's locked up can release itself. speaker-1: Interesting I have to look at this speaker-0: I can see you through my exercise if you want. I like a sore lower back on and off for years. And then since I started doing these exercises, it's just perfect. speaker-1: Yeah, I've just been, I've just been running this one called the foundation workout. It's like 12 minutes of like lower back stuff and it's been good. I'm like, you get out of bed, you're like, all right, sweet. I'm into it. And that's yeah. But I'm same as you. I've been going to, I go to the gym most days. I like to go early. speaker-0: It's way to start the day out. speaker-1: Yeah, I feel guilty because Kara gets up and goes to work. So I go to the gym with her. ⁓ speaker-0: It's like your, it's like your, that's your work. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, clocking on. And then, yeah. speaker-0: Um, let's um, got any other good topics? Cause I've got a few, um, I've got a few things on my list from the last, last month. speaker-1: pump them out. What do we got? speaker-0: Oh, well, forgotten password. The reason why I think I've got COVID is because this morning I couldn't remember my login to my bank. I use it like every second day. speaker-1: I know the feeling. speaker-0: And I'm like, fuck, I've got such brain fog that I can't remember. I even don't even think I should just hit the keyboard and it just types itself in like that almost. It's so muscle memory. I couldn't remember my thing. I had to go and search it up. I was so disappointed. So this is why I'm doing a COVID test. I've either got Alzheimer's or COVID or I'm speaker-1: You are actually doing a COVID test right now. speaker-0: Yeah, look, I'm stirring the pot. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: This is exciting. I'll tell you in 10 minutes what the result is. speaker-1: We'll get the results today. On the... speaker-0: Get live, live results. ⁓ what were you saying about your password debacle? speaker-1: I hate it how, so I've got one consistent password that I use, which, yeah, without saying what it is. So when we're trying to log into this Riverside app to record this, it just pisses me off how some things have to have a capital, some have to have a symbol. Like it's my password. I should be able to choose if I want it to be a high level of security or not. Like, you know, if you want to hack it, if you want to hack into my emails, my passwords used to be just password and then, ⁓ and then my bank used to make me update it. And it just went password one, password two, password three. I got all the way up to password 12. speaker-0: That's all you- speaker-1: until I changed it to my current password which I'm not gonna like let everyone know what it is but it used to be password 12 speaker-0: Yeah. Well, I just have a combination of numbers and letters, but I just will start typing it again. And I've got a point now where I just always do a capital in my thing. Because if I, some things don't need it, but then I forget which ones did and which ones didn't. speaker-1: And that would be a smart way to do it. That's what I need to do is just make it always a capital, always with a symbol. And then you can be consistent across all of them. Yeah. Cause my old part. speaker-0: Yeah. iCloud keychain is pretty good. speaker-1: One of my other passwords used to be my first email address, was Agent215 and then I had the same problems, which was like capital A, capital, yeah, so that's been retired as well. speaker-0: What's agent two one five. Where does that come from? speaker-1: That was my first email address at hotmail.com ⁓ speaker-0: always fed to yourself as a bit of a secret agent. speaker-1: I wanted Agent 69. I remember setting up my email and I couldn't get Agent 69. I wouldn't even have known what the relevance of 69 was back then, but I thought it was cool. speaker-0: Yes, that's a number. speaker-1: Yeah, so I ended up with agent 215. Yeah. I like that. What was your first email address? speaker-0: Hmm Charlie Boy 111 at Hotmail. speaker-1: BOI? speaker-0: Nah, I used a Y I think. was bit straight. speaker-1: Yeah, that's pretty vanilla there. speaker-0: Bit of a virgin. Cause everyone else's was like, everyone else's was like, you know, at least chicks rocks at Hotmail or something. Chicks with a IX, rocks with an X. You know? speaker-1: Yeah. When's ⁓ when's still running, when's still running his first email address, is necky underscore DH. speaker-0: Is he writing that? speaker-1: That's his go-to. So if you want to in a male... speaker-0: It's got pretty far life with that. speaker-1: Yeah, he's still ripping, knacky DH. speaker-0: I always feel a bit self-conscious because mine's like at live. And I don't know if live doesn't exist anymore. It was sort of when MSM was around and then live went under and Hotmail must have acquired all the live addresses. Or now that's become Outlook. Anyway, so as long as I'm self-conscious that I've got a live and everyone else has got a Gmail, I feel like a little bit of an imposter syndrome, you know? I can't hang with the Gmail crew. speaker-1: I was repping Hotmail for ages until about a year ago when I, on the topic of passwords, I couldn't get into my Hotmail and then I clicked forgotten password and then I had to go through all these security questions, but the security questions were like, I couldn't answer my own security questions. So I ended up losing, completely losing access to my email and having to start a new one. speaker-0: ⁓ my god, well that was probably quite good because it would have cleared all the bullshit emails that were clogging up your feed. speaker-1: Well, it asking me like, who did you last email? I was just... The crapest questions. I was so off it. And then I ended up just giving up and starting a whole new email address. speaker-0: Yeah, I hate it when they, it's like, guys, you're stopping the guy, the only guy who should be getting in, you're stopping him from getting in. This isn't right. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: All right, ready for the next thing? Okay, the next thing I want to talk about list is 11 speed short cage derailleurs. We saw one of these at TransTaz and it made me think of you. So I thought I had to ask you about it. speaker-1: I'm ready. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: 11 speed short cage, like the downhill ones. speaker-0: I mean, when I first was racing XC, I had an eight speed. was two, it was three on the front and eight on the back. So that's about 24 gears. So it was more gears than you get now on an axis on a transmission. But yeah, anyway, so I mean, 11 speed, but what are your thoughts with all these 12 speeds? mean, 13 speeds probably coming out or probably already here. speaker-1: Yeah. It's all marketing though, it'll go back. It's like they'll rehash it to be, know, seven speed will be the new thing for pedaling and you'll have a wider range between the gears and they'll call it a wide range cassette or something. speaker-0: Yeah, for efficient. But I reckon the short cage is pretty sick because it definitely doesn't get hit by as much stuff. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. I was, I did love my 11 speed XTR. reckon that was, that was the real Toyota Corolla of, drive trains. Yeah. Yeah. You just, you could, you just slam that puppy into anything. never broke. Yeah. speaker-0: And it's, even the, yeah, the XT, when I was racing on the, ⁓ the pivot incubator, I had to buy my own drive chance. I just bought an XT one and that just was, yeah, just bomb proof. speaker-1: Yeah, Shimano goes good with making stuff that lasts for ages. It's, ⁓ yeah, they do pride themselves on durability. ⁓ which is good. speaker-0: Yeah, well the new, yeah, the new SRAM stuff is mean because I've hit my derailleur like every race I'll smack into something and it's always all good. So it's pretty sick. speaker-1: But I was very apprehensive and hesitant about going to the long cage derailleur when they first bought it out. was, yeah, around 45 for ages and I was so anti going on to the 51 thing. And then I don't think like you never hit your derailleur. You don't really hit the cage anymore, but I had it in my head that you would. speaker-0: I remember. speaker-1: You're stupid if you're going to run like such a long cage derailleur. speaker-0: And you would hear the Jorellis, you'd just like start the stage and it would just leave. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah. And like I was telling myself that I was like, you're like, it'll drag on ruts. I'm like, what kind of ruts are you hitting? speaker-0: If if the, Excel Dave, hey, you got out of talk. speaker-1: You're like, you know, Roto-Ruah 2017, if I had a long cage derailleur, I wouldn't have finished the race. You're like, telling yourself that, champ. speaker-0: Yeah, what's sick now is the axis or the XX ones, when something jams them, the outer of the jockey wheel can move on the inner. So the chain can still spin. Cause you know if something jams it, then it can like cause your chain to snap or like the whole derailleur gets sucked up into the... speaker-1: I so yeah it's the jockey the teeth can be like independent to the jockey wheel. speaker-0: teeth have like a groove of plastic so that they can rotate on the jockey wheel. speaker-1: That's fancy. speaker-0: Yeah. We're well with secrets actually. We better move on. ⁓ what else? ⁓ I just lost my mic. I am Moimoo and Wants a Bike sponsor. By the way. speaker-1: Yeah, anyone listening got a bike sponsor for Jack Moir? Hit him up at jackyboysurferchorebreaker at... speaker-0: At CrescentHead.com speaker-1: Yeah, Chrisandead.com speaker-0: Jackie Boy Slays Crescent Head Harder Than Any Other Peasant.com. ⁓ Can you hear me? Yeah. That's good. And I wanted to ask you this question Andy, in my head it was you, but I think it actually from memory now wasn't. But someone was telling me about this border thing that happened in the States. And you might be able to remember the story. Someone hitchhiked from Canada to the States, to Bellingham or something. speaker-1: Yeah, that's good. speaker-0: to go riding, but they didn't have their credentials correct. So they hitchhiked with someone. And then because they didn't have the right visa or whatever, they got pulled over and they searched the guy's car and the guy who had picked up the hitchhiker had drugs in his car. And he got done all because he was being a good person and picking up a hitchhiker. That's my story. Is it your story? ⁓ that was you. Probably because was a show. speaker-1: Thank speaker-0: when So this guy picked us up and he was going to the dead show. So we, but the person I was with happened to be, I've been born in Canada, but when we got to the border, they said, where were you born? And he said, cause he's American, he was more American, but he didn't say Canada. then they, they pinged him because they pinged him, pulled the whole car over and these guys had drugs in the car. And so we just walked away from the, I can't believe it's your story. Border getting arrested. How many of you guys were there? There were two of us and two of them. Yeah, right. Bad luck. And we was a grateful ditcher. It was just like 20 minutes to the road. In Canada or in the States? In New York. In New York, okay. But it was literally, you know, right across the border. Too far to walk. No way. And they picked us up because we were dead as in they were going on show. I'm so glad you were here because I was telling someone this the other day but I couldn't remember whose story it was. ⁓ so it's mum's story. So that solves that, it sounded like a story that Eddie would tell, but I guess you and mum- Got it. speaker-1: Yeah. I've got a drugs and border story. speaker-0: ⁓ fill us in. speaker-1: Yeah, ⁓ 2012, me, Jamie Lowell and Tom Matthews, ⁓ we're going, we've, we're going to Mont-Saint-Anne and Wyndham World Cups and we were all under 25, so we couldn't rent a car easily or we just couldn't rent a car. ⁓ so we went on Craigslist and bought a car for 600 bucks. And then we went around Montreal to different insurance. like brokers spinning this yarn about how we work offshore, but we've bought this car and we're here for like a month and we needed to get insurance. we slowly like figured out what our story each, each time we'd get declined, we'd be able to adapt our story. Yeah. Yeah. After a few attempts, we managed to find this place that would give us car insurance. we paid like 600 bucks for three months. speaker-0: You were declined, yeah, yeah. speaker-1: So for 1200, we had a car for like a whole month. And we bought this car off this guy. And when we went and looked at it, one little thing I picked up on was that there was like a little baggy in the back of car. I was like, oh, it's like a bit of a, well, it'll be all right. Like clean the car out. was 600. Yeah. And so we like. speaker-0: Come on, come ⁓ speaker-1: bought the car, loaded our stuff up. We had like one of those strap on bike racks and we were driving to across the border into Vermont for a race at, I think it was called Sugarbush. So we go through the border and then they take your car off you for secondary inspection and take your passports in and you go in and do your like whatever you're pedestrian visa or land crossing and they fingerprint you and stuff and so we're in the line, the three of us. speaker-0: Not if you already have your visa sorted. Or do they do this for everyone? speaker-1: They do this for everyone. like you, the first time you cross a land border into America, you have to go through and do this in secondary where they like stamp your passport. then anytime after that, you can just go through in the car. but we're in the, we're in the secondary inspection lined up and then it comes over the radio to this like scary looking border control guy. Like, ⁓ like get those three guys out back. we like look out and there's like a drug dog like going through our car. They come and grab the three of us and take us out the back and like make us bend over and like have our hands on this bench. And the guy's like being super aggro like we've found drugs in your vehicle. And with this, I'm like starting, I just start sweating. I'm like, fuck me. This is like getting so serious. I've never been into America before and this is the first time we go in. And the guy's saying like, He's kind of just yelling at us and we're just kind of blabbering like, we don't have any drugs. Like we've just bought the car. And then this other cop comes in and he's being a bit more calm with us. And he's asking us like what's going on? They've found drugs in our car. he saw we're from New Zealand. He's like, ⁓ no way, All Blacks. straight away we kind of have like a connection with this guy so he asked he's like okay boys like what's going on here and we explained how we've just bought the car literally like five hours before this we're going to a mountain bike race in Vermont ⁓ we don't have any drugs in the car we've just bought it and then he's like ⁓ we found like a small amount of marijuana in the car ⁓ but you guys are kind of all good I believe your story. And then they like, let us go. speaker-0: So what the guy before you had just left a whole lot of, we'd obviously had drugs in there. speaker-1: Yeah, he'd been like chopping up his weed in this little like internal compartment in the glove box kind of thing. And they were just like crumbs and stuff. So they just let us go. We go back out, get in the car and we're just driving off down the road and like for two minutes, we don't say anything. We're just like. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. speaker-1: What the fuck just happened? So we'd pull over to a gas station and buy some WD-40 and just spray the fuck out of the glove box and they hadn't even taken the little bit of weed out of there. We're just chucking it out the window. And then, yeah, they're so lucky that that didn't like become a problem. like if they had, you know, like they could have made that a thing, even though we weren't doing anything wrong. It was just like bad luck. And I would never be, you know, like if you get a flag on your passport for something like that, like you'd never be allowed into America. every time I go into the States, I'm like kind of nervous. Cause like the first time was traumatizing. speaker-0: By the end the year you're already in the States. Still on mute to check the car, isn't it? Yeah, no. Yeah. And you would have been thinking like, ⁓ this is what everyone talks about the, like the U S border police. ⁓ yeah. They are serious. Yeah. Freaking out. Worse than everyone's been saying. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. So that was definitely an interesting way to enter America for the first time. speaker-0: Yeah, that's good. So maybe when you told me that story, because I've heard that before, and then mum told me her story, I must have combined the two in my head. speaker-1: Yeah, very similar. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. I think we're pretty good at these or anything else. speaker-1: Now we're at an hour and four minutes. speaker-0: pretty much us episode one. speaker-1: ⁓ If you've got any questions, send them in the DMs. We'll get a guest on next week, I reckon. speaker-0: Yeah, here we go. We'll think about brainstorming. ⁓ speaker-1: Look at that. We need to get Dave McMillan on. speaker-0: Fuck, he did some good stories, ⁓ Yeah, we need to start bringing some of these, you know, stories that you literally could not script to the light. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: I'll start writing down a few good ones. Think about them when you get your memory gets jogged by something else. speaker-1: I know and then I need to have like a note of ⁓ funny things because ⁓ when I'm driving around yeah there's some good you come across some funny things and you're like ⁓ I need to take note of that speaker-0: Yeah. love you and leave you a shout out to the mayor of Vic. This guy we're racing with in trans tears. He's a huge fan of the spirit of Enduro that we're doing last year. And he was frothing that we were going to start again. So we can dedicate this episode to the mayor of Vic. Alright. Make sure you leave it open so it uploads, speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, I'm on it. I'm going to hit stop. Adios. speaker-0: See you later.