Charles: maybe. Ed Masters: Alright, so welcome back everyone to episode 2 of the Washed Up Pod with Charlie Murray, Ed Masters. ⁓ Yeah, this is where we're actually trying to make it to a record breaking. I think the most episodes we've got on a podcast before is three, so we're two thirds of the way there. But without further ado, I'm just going to roll out my ⁓ intro song, which hopefully won't get copyrighted like last week for our 128 listeners. Thanks for tuning in, but here we go. ⁓ Charles: Yes! Ed Masters: There we go, bit of a RJD2 Good Times Roll Part 2 if anyone wants to listen to that at home it's on Spotify Great tune, great tune Charles: That's quite fitting Eddie, that the reason you chose that song? Because it's episode 2? Ed Masters: ⁓ no, actually that's just... you've actually just pointed that out, Chaz. It's very observable of you. Charles: That's coincidence. It's like part two, you ready? Are you ready, Eddie? Ed Masters: What's going on Chez, I hear you've got some big news Charles: ⁓ we do some big news. Ed Masters: ⁓ no, don't get into the big news just yet. ⁓ Start off with the technical meltdown you're having. Charles: ⁓ we need to tease them alright alright alright. ⁓ yeah, today we're meltdown and then I thought this week, well we are getting guests but it's really hard to line up two people let alone three people ⁓ and I think we just need to get out some more low level episodes and really hone our craft before we get too many other people but everyone I talk to seems keen to come on so that's a good sign I guess. Ed Masters: You Mmm, fun tuna. Yeah, we've got a star-studded cast lining up. Charles: Yeah, Booker doesn't know it yet, but Booker is on the hit list. And then Laurie, Laurie's Kane, ⁓ You've been working on Laurie? Man. All right. We, I was thinking what would be cool is we should just do one of these when we're hanging out with someone else. Like if one of us is spending the afternoon with someone, we'll be like, ⁓ let's just, you know, call in for 20 minutes and just spin the yarn with them. And then that can just add into the back of one of our episodes. Ed Masters: Yeah, Laura is Kane, George Brennigan was Kane. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I was just trying to figure it out, how you can... Because I was going to get George to come over, but I need to figure out how you do it with having a guest in the same zone. Whether you do it with a separate mic in a separate link, so they just do it through a phone, or whether they just sit next to you. Charles: No effects possible, Yeah. Ed Masters: because we had a bit of constructive criticism of the last episode from Kara Lee said that there was a few delays and some pauses and she actually accused me of being on my phone. ⁓ Charles: Yep. Ha! My chat must have been pretty boring then. Ed Masters: But it wasn't me being on my phone, was, yeah, there was a little bit of a lag. So I've moved my office downstairs, ⁓ which is closer to the modem. And yeah, hopefully that'll, I mean, it seems to be running smoother today. So we're already off to a roaring start. Charles: ⁓ nice. Flying start, should I go into my technical issues while we're talking about technical issues from last week? Kind of on theme. So what I'm doing right now, I've got this old phone that I've had for a couple of years and it's like, I think it's a terabyte or maybe 500 gig, it's huge, heaps of storage. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: Got you know 20 or 40 thousand odd photos and videos whatever a ridiculous amount of shit that no one really is never gonna see the light of day but I haven't got around to deleting it and I haven't subscribed for iCloud photos because I think that's a scam because Ed Masters: You ⁓ it's such a scam it's daylight robbery they just... ugh Charles: You pay and then literally the next day you get an email saying it's full. And you're like, well I've just subscribed. How is it full? then, because it just keeps pulling shit onto the cloud from everywhere. Every device it just pulls in all this useless shit. Anyway, so I don't believe in that. So I'm just the sort of analog, well not analog, but I'm the guy who just has hard drives and just deletes stuff. But for the last sort of six months, my phone's been full. So I would like sit down for half an hour, go through, delete heaps of stuff, and then forget about it. And then sure enough, like just when there's an important video I've got to take or something I've got to send to someone, it says I'm full. And at the moment it's so full that it won't let me log into WhatsApp. Because WhatsApp has run out of memory or storage. So that's why I had to resort to Messenger because I couldn't actually contact you before. Ed Masters: Bye. Charles: And then I was trying to post this video so we could get some viewers, some listeners to tell us their dilemmas. Like, I want everyone to, not everyone, some people to send in their drama, something in their life that they're struggling with, whether it's like a bit of a, bit of a, what do call it? A feud, a workplace incident, a relationship issue, or their friend has slept with someone that they're not supposed to be sleeping with, you know? Like, we want some... Ed Masters: And we can unpack it. Charles: Exactly, we want some juicy goss to unpack with two people who I would say we've got pretty good worldly experience. So we can make a really poor effort at trying to solve ⁓ some humanitarian issues. Ed Masters: ⁓ totally. where can give you the advice that you know you don't need. Charles: 100 % but this is a good way to get people's juicy gossip and it's also all anonymous which is a really hard word to say I was I got stuck on that before but anonymous. So I reckon that could be Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: If you listen to this, just slide into our DMs and send us some juicy goss. We won't repeat your name and we will give you some unsolicited advice. But it's solicited because you're actually DMing us. Ed Masters: Yeah. No, that's gonna be juicy. Hopefully, I think there'll be some good, you know, like people pissing each other off at work. Like. Or if you need us to hatch up a revenge plan, because those are always good too. Charles: Yeah. ⁓ Yes, well I got confronted just before because I was at my house ⁓ checking the concrete, poured 15 cubic concrete in the slab yesterday, very proud of myself. Me and Bubbles placed it. Bubbles is a of a FIFO man, flew in for the job. ⁓ Placed this concrete, super proud. So then this morning, went up there to check it and to water it, because if you water it, it cures better. ⁓ Ed Masters: gonna do it. Charles: Naturally I'm thinking I'm the man because I place all this concrete so I'm you know got a bit of a bit of pep in my step pretty stoked with life Chipping around and I'm it's the sun's out right so it's warm take my top off walk around topless Thinking yeah life's good, and then I go up to collect the rubbish bin from the street And I've walked past this car of tradies and there's four tradies sitting there and then as I go past I just hear like someone mutter under their breath ⁓ Ed Masters: Thank you. Charles: put a fucking shirt on bro or something like that and then I hear everyone in the car start laughing and I'm like ⁓ fuck I don't know if I was gonna go and confront this guy with his four cronies because I probably couldn't take on four tradies as much as I rate myself not really Ed Masters: You Yeah. But you should have gone over and been like, look mate, I just poured in place 15 cube of grey gold by myself yesterday. If you were me, you would be walking around with the top off as well. Yeah. ⁓ Charles: You Yeah, can you blame a man? So that was my workplace confrontation today, yeah. Ed Masters: Did you have concrete fever? Charles: ⁓ yeah, there was some sweet on the brow for sure. Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah, I always thought a reality TV show based around technical concrete pours would be really good. Yeah. Charles: I'm surprised it doesn't exist. so, it's just like, cause it's, on a hot day, it just cures so quick and you only have one chance. Ed Masters: And you can be, someone can be the most relaxed, level-headed person. And as soon as the phone rings and the concrete truck is half an hour away, it's like they turn into someone completely different. It's like Jekyll and Hyde, but Jekyll is when the concrete's coming. Charles: Yeah, yeah, it's like Jason and Sam. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, like, ⁓ we did one at Steve's house and he was like, he turned, he got so jittery and like, was like scurrying around. Yeah, yeah, it was. I think it was. Charles: I think this was on the last episode or maybe this is that episode that didn't make the light of day. The lost files. Ed Masters: Yeah, but it was pretty, it was, it was pretty funny. I quite enjoy it. It's just, it's great, great entertainment. Just people watching and seeing how everyone handles it. Charles: What's, yeah, and you learn a lot about someone. Like, if you wanna date someone or get married, I think before your wedding, you should do a concrete poll with that person. And see what they're like under pressure, because then everyone's true colors come out. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, that's so good. Charles: Carolee, I'm looking at you. Carolee, you'll be up for the slam at Arthur's Point. Ed Masters: Yeah, I don't know how she'd go with the concrete pour. She likes to be pretty- ⁓ no, she'd go good. She'd have... Yeah. Hmm. She'd- Charles: I reckon she should be good. Yeah. She's sort of a no drama, no bullshit sort of girl, I reckon. Yeah. Ed Masters: I'll ask her tonight. How do you think you'd go on a concrete pool? She'll listen to this. Charles: Well don't ask it. This is a good test if she listens to the whole thing or just gives us... We actually want her to listen because she can give us honest advice. Everyone else is like so nice. They're like, yeah episode was sweet, like perfect, don't change anything. But it's not perfect. This is low level stuff so... Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah. We wanna be top of the bottom of the barrel. Charles: Everyone unfiltered raw unfiltered opinions. Just like, just like this really. Ed Masters: Yeah, I've actually got a little story about the iCloud phone drama thing as well. Because when I was in Aussie, me and Neolidocs were fishing off the wharf and there were heaps of stingrays, like massive ones. So me being me, I thought it'd be funny to get my phone out and I was like pretending to jig the stingrays with my rod. Charles: Mm. You ⁓ I saw the videos, yeah, yeah. Ed Masters: Um whilst filming it funny as and then I tucked my um phone back into my waistband and then I think I like bent over to cast and it Popped out and fell into the water with the stingrays So Newell's just pursing himself and I'm like fuck I'm not jumping into the water with these stingrays. That's how Steve Irwin died OIP and he's like you're gonna have to get in and I'm like Charles: you You ⁓ Ed Masters: Go and distract the rays so I can at least jump in. then so the three of these rays kind of went away for a bit. And so I jumped in and nearly had like a rope for me to climb out. And it was, it was a bit of a panic, but none of the, managed to survive. Charles: Clearly, but the thing I saw the video of it and he was trying to film you in the water But you were trying to get out but he only had one hand so he couldn't really he couldn't really help you and you're like help Pull me out and he couldn't really pull Ed Masters: Yeah And I was climbing up like a pole that supports the wharf that's covered in mussels so my feet got all cut up. ⁓ And yeah, so I thought iPhones are meant to be ⁓ waterproof. So my phone was all good. We actually snuck into a campground to do some washing and then we flushed out my phone with fresh water which is kind of... Charles: You you Yeah. Ed Masters: a little bit scary where you're just dunking your phone but it's like better to get the salt water out. And then everything was all good for like a day or two and then it just, it slowly over the period of an hour just died. ⁓ And I, yeah, cause I had a screen protector on it but it had a crack under the screen. So the water must've gotten in there slowly as it heated up or something like that. So I had to go get a new iPhone and then Charles: the screen die. ⁓ so the water got in. Ed Masters: went through the rigmarole of going through Sydney CBD to get a new iPhone because I had been the dialed operator that I am. I've actually got Apple care. So it works everywhere. It's like worldwide insurance kind of thing. Charles: Ugh. Yeah. Does that work in Aussie? And is it expensive? Maybe I should look into this. Ed Masters: It's about 20 bucks a month, but if you kill your phone, do like ⁓ damage, loss and theft. ⁓ And then, so they just charge you 150 bucks to get to replace whatever model phone you have. ⁓ But then, yeah, cause my iCloud was full when I like... Charles: ⁓ man. Ed Masters: Rebooted my phone and it restored. I like lost the whole of 2025 of Photos and stuff because it hadn't backed up ⁓ Which is like it's not the end of the world But it is a little bit annoying because I keep thinking of like funny moments or wanted you know Like someone's birthday and you've got a good photo of them or something and then you're like, so I haven't actually bought iCloud either. So well since Yeah Charles: Yeah. You're non-subscription guy. Ed Masters: but yeah, no, this is the stupid thing as well. Is I wanted to, I was like, ⁓ I'll use this as an opportunity to get a new phone with heaps of storage. So I went in there and I'm like, can I pay to upgrade this to like a 17? Just, I was happy to drop some cash on it. Charles: Do you get a bigger phone? Bigger space? Mm. Ed Masters: And then they said they can only do my replacement phone as a trade-in. So they're only, and I'm like, but it's brand new. Can you just not knock off what it's worth off the new phone? they, so they would only trade a brand new iPhone in for like 500 bucks. I'm like, that's kind of stupid. I can just go and sell it for a thousand on marketplace. Yeah, so. Charles: and then buy a 17. So then if you buy a 17, does that AppleCare, your same subscription work? Ed Masters: I would have to, I would have to like take out a new AppleCare on that phone. Yeah. Yeah. Charles: Okay, so it depends on the phone you got along. Yeah, well, I've just been running the EDMasters program, where you just buy like a phone, like a pretty mean phone, but just one that has a cracked screen. This is, you might not even do this anymore, but back in the day, you were like, oh, I just cracked my screen. This is when I first met you. You're like, I'm cracking the screens anyway, within a month or two. So I may as well just buy a phone with a cracked screen, and it's like a third or quarter of the price of the new phone, and it's exactly the same, but it just has a cracked screen. Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah. Charles: And then run that and either if it's green it's bad get it replaced and you're still winning or If it breaks or you lose it, this is what happened to me I just mine completely broke and I just got insurance and then got the new one On my like house house insurance Ed Masters: Mmm. Maybe I need to... I need to go back to that, I think. Charles: So I'm just, yeah, my phone needs to get run over. Ed Masters: So I've prepared a couple of questions. Well, actually a topic to discuss. Yeah. Charles: Yeah, I've got one quick PSA before this. Can I just sneak in? So while you're on top of your phones heating up and getting water damage, for everyone with a GoPro, if your GoPro gets super warm, like sitting in the sun or something, do not take it under water. Because then it cools down and it sucks all the water into the GoPro, even though it's waterproof. Ed Masters: ⁓ Charles: So if you're gonna go swimming with your GoPro, make sure you cool it down first. Cause I've fucked one of my GoPros doing that. Anyway, sorry, side note, but important. Ed Masters: Good to know though, I've got one of those little mini 11s and man, sometimes if I, I learned not to charge it off my laptop charger, cause it was like giving it way too much juice and it was going so hot. Like, I was like, this is close to catching on fire. Charles: Pretty scary when you've just got this little lithium bomb in your pocket all day. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, but it's still going hard. It's survived once it cooled down but Okay a real pet peeve of mine in the last few days and Someone might actually be able to like comment and let us know why this is but why are washing machine minutes not actual minutes? Charles: Alright sorry, go to your topic. Has this been striking again? Washing... Yeah, washing machine... They don't... It's... I think it must be because they keep adjusting, ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah but like why would it say 54 minutes and it's not 54 what is it then? Like what's the unit of measurement? Charles: Yeah. Ed Masters: It's... It's so annoying! You get down... Charles: But sometimes it does like five minutes in one minute. And sometimes it just stays on the same minute for five minutes. Ed Masters: Yeah I swear like on our machine we've got here 14 minutes is like equivalent to 40 at the end. ⁓ Yeah, so if anyone can weigh in on how they think this is acceptable in 2026 to be pulling the wool over our eyes on what time is. Charles: It's the worst. you Well you know what was good Eddie, back in the day there was no minutes. There's just a few lights and it just we had like a wash light and then a rinse light and then a spin light and the lights would just slowly go off and... Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah, there's a real classic Fisher and Paykel washing machine that has not many settings and it goes so good and they need to get away from all this tech. Charles: Yeah. Yeah, it's the classic example of trying to digitalise everything, just making it worse. But I've been struck by this before, the washing machine minutes. And in Europe especially, ⁓ some machines in Europe are in your Airbnb, some of them will just do an hour and an hour, and then some of them will do an hour and three hours. And then... Ed Masters: And when you get... ⁓ I've done some serious hot washes, I did... We did what... We had one at Finale last year where... I don't know what... Charles: It comes out like kids clothing Ed Masters: I don't know how you got it. It was as hot as it could possibly be. And all the waterproofing and stuff comes out as it strips it off the ⁓ clothes. Charles: So just like glad wrap, just like a layer of glad wrap in the machine. ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, it just comes out. It was so funny. Real clean though. Yeah. Charles: I'm sure yeah literally boiled, boiled clean. ⁓ I had this fuck up last year like so Harriet got me this real nice dress shirt for one of my birthdays a couple of years ago and it was like this nice sort of like linen or like like cotton but like a towel sort of like quite yeah Ed Masters: Not like you to have linen. Charles: It was like a really nice thick material and like a really nice dress shirt and it fit me perfectly. I think it was like an XL. Obviously pretty big guy, know, get around the gym a little bit and stuff. ⁓ Ed Masters: you you Charles: So I went away and it must have been in the washroom basket or something and mum saw it and she thought that it just looked a bit big but not judging this off anything. Just the fact that like she's a lot smaller than me and she just picked up the shirt and thought it must be Craig or Charlie's. ⁓ looks pretty big. All good, I'll just put it a hot wash and shrink it a bit. So she sends it through a hot wash and maybe even a hot dry, I'm not sure. I come back and go to put on this shirt. I actually went to a ward's dinner in it. And it was like a crop top, my tummy was coming out the bottom. And I was pretty gutted and then head up mum and she's like, ⁓ well, I just thought it looked a bit big, I needed to shrink that one. Mum, what are you basing this on? Ed Masters: Yeah. ⁓ So was she shrinking it for you to continue wearing or was she shrinking it because she wanted it? Charles: No she wants, she doesn't want it, she knows it's mean, I'm also, yeah Charlie doesn't know what size he is, I do. Haven't seen him for a while, but let's just put it on 90 degrees and just see what happens. It's all good, it's only a $200 shirt or whatever. Ed Masters: Executive decision, this is too big. Charles: So anyway, I'm looking, if you know anyone or like a frothing grom who wants to go to an awards dinner, I've got a shirt for you. Sign to my DMs, I will send you the shirt. Seriously, that's not an MD offer. If you guys DM me your address, first person in about the dress shirt from the Washed Up podcast, I'll send it out to you. We'll report back on the next episode. Ed Masters: Mmm. Ha I really hope this shirt gets rehomed. And you gotta send us a picture of where you wear it to. Charles: I reckon if you're a medium, you're like typically in New Zealand or I guess UK, you're a medium, then this XL shirt after it's hot wash will fit you perfectly. What's the next thing on the list Eddie? Ed Masters: you I've got a few random things. I'll just get into my phone so I've recently I just I watched this thing on YouTube last night about the Masters golf tournament Charles: Is that your tournament? Ed Masters: Nah, like the one at Augusta. But, um... No, I wish. You know, haven't raised the food prices for people to buy food at the all-beer in like 20 or 30 years. It's still $1.50 to buy a sandwich at the Masters, which is like the hardest... Charles: ⁓ I thought maybe you and Wim was sitting something out. You Yeah. What? Ed Masters: Yeah, that's, I reckon that's pretty sick. And they have a no phone policy. ⁓ cause, so they, they treat everyone who's, who's going to the, masters as a patron. They don't say they're fans. They're like guests of the course. So they get the same treat. They get the same treatment that members get. and yeah, a beer's $5. Charles: Why is that? They just don't... Sorry. Continue. I'll see. Ed Masters: An egg salad sandwich is $1.50. They have a no phone policy. ⁓ Yeah, it is. if you put down, so like, it's a bit of a stampede to get your spot once they open the gates in the morning. But wherever you put your chair down, no one's allowed to move it. Charles: You just can't film. Yep. Ed Masters: That's yours. Charles: I like, this is like a gentleman's rules, ⁓ Gentleman's agreement. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, and everyone plays by the rules. No one's allowed to move your chair. You can be you can come and go for the rest of the day, but that's your spot. I was like, it's pretty cool. Charles: That's... Do you think we should go? Ed Masters: Yeah, I think it's really hard to get tickets. ⁓ Charles: Okay, a ticket's expensive. Ed Masters: I think they're like 500 bucks or something. Charles: and it'll probably be worth it. It'll be a pretty cool experience, ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah, they sell $70 million of merch each in the week. Yeah, and you can only buy... You can only buy Masters merch at the venue. They don't do... They don't sell online or anything. Yeah, I think it's like $16,000 a minute. Charles: What ⁓ my God, that's genius. So that's how they're funding these egg sandwiches then. Ed Masters: that putting through the merch hall. And I think... Charles: 16 grand a minute. ⁓ my god. They probably drive, wait so to go to the merch hall, do you have to have tickets to the event or you can just show up to the merch hall? Ed Masters: Yeah, man. ⁓ you have to have tickets to the event. Yeah. Charles: Really? How many tickets are there each day? Ed Masters: I don't know, can I actually pro- how many tickets? Charles: Mmm, idiot, we probably know someone who can get us tickets. Ed Masters: I'll have a look. Charles: If anyone listening out of our 128 viewers can get us tickets to this Augusta Masters. Ed Masters: 40 or 50,000 patrons attend. ⁓ And there's a lottery of 11,000 to 20,000 tickets. ⁓ But yeah, pretty cool. I was like. Charles: So what's that per person on average? So 70, how much million? Seven million. Ed Masters: Yeah, it's 70 million they sell in merch Charles: Okay, divided by how many people? Five. Fifty thousand. Ed Masters: Yeah, ⁓ 50,000. Charles: So each person spends an average of $1400 on merch. That can't be right. must be more people. Or maybe that's $50,000 a day. Ed Masters: Yeah, cause, No, I think... I think that's right, cause someone said, ⁓ how much do people spend? And they said between $1,000 and $2,000 at the merch haul. Yeah. So... ⁓ cause they sell these garden gnomes and stuff. They sell heaps. I wouldn't... I wouldn't have had a lot, yeah. But I thought that was pretty interesting, ⁓ Charles: Alright, so it is right. and clubs probably. Where'd you go into this deep dive about the Masters? You must be... Ed Masters: how they... ⁓ It started by... because the masters had just been, so I went and watched the highlights and ⁓ then I just went and watched like a 15 ⁓ minute thing about how it all works. It's the only like... ⁓ what do they call it? It's PGA... ⁓ Charles: Yeah. Ed Masters: main stop that doesn't change venues. It's always at the Augusta and they basically control the climate so that all the flowers and stuff bloom for that week and they can monitor everything through this underground watering and aeration system that they have. Charles: What? So they put hot water into the ground to make them bloom in a certain time. So it looks like it's summer. Ed Masters: Yeah, and they can pump, they can pour water and put water into it. Charles: That's crazy. Does it look sick, the course? Ed Masters: Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's insane and they only have 300 members in the club and you can't buy your way in you have to be invited by you have to be recommended and it's based on character and standing not necessarily wealth to be able to become a member. Charles: That's good. Right, I was gonna mention some people who shouldn't be there then, this will get political, so we'll just skip over this. Where is Augusta? Is that in Florida? ⁓ Georgia. I don't really know much about the golf. I started watching that Drive to Survive golf, I think it's called Full Swing. That was real sick, I enjoyed that. Talking of TV shows, I actually started watching... Ed Masters: I reckon I know who you mean. Georgia. Yeah, it's pretty good. Charles: thanks for the deep dive what's math someone was talking about it other day ⁓ Ed Masters: Play... Play some maps. Married at first sight, Australia. Yeah, it's, I've watched about three seasons of it in our house and this season has been especially rubbish. It's brain rotting stuff, but I think it's almost just a symbol of the demise of humanity. Charles: Thanks Yeah. I think we're all, this is going get really pessimistic quickly but we are kind of heading, it's all going to the dogs really. Ed Masters: Hahaha I mean look at us. This is how we spend our Tuesday afternoon. Charles: Yeah, Well, we're pretty lucky to be able to do this on a Tuesday. I was actually thinking pretty, real sad circumstances, someone, not someone I know, but, one of my friends, a guy that he's been building a house for passed away, ⁓ in the weekend, just like a freak accident on a road bike. Ed Masters: Not good. Charles: And it's just, yeah, it sucks, but it really makes you think about life and I was just thinking like everything is a blessing, you know? Even if you wake up feeling sick and you have a shit day, you're like, what's the alternative? You'd rather that than be dead, you know? And everyone complains about getting older and I... Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. A shit day is better than being dead. Charles: So just like, just try and enjoy the shit days too. And then this is what I was thinking when this guy verbally assaulted me this morning about having my top off. I was thinking like, oh, why should I get like bothered by something like that? If I just didn't say anything and just keep cruising and didn't really affect my mood or change my day. Cause I was like, fuck, why did I sweat the small stuff and you could just die tomorrow. Ed Masters: Mmm. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Charles: You know, some people would be like, right now the table's a mess. I've got all these half-eaten fijoas that I'm running. I'm like, it doesn't matter. That's not important. I've just stopped giving a fuck about the small shit in the last couple of days. Yeah, it's nice. Even the concrete, I was pouring the concrete you see, I'm like, oh fuck well. Someone's like, oh you need to get places to help place it. I'm like, nah, I'll just run it. It'll be all good. It's not a visual slab. Ed Masters: Yeah, I like it. I like it. It's how it should be. Charles: and I know it's pretty hard to do and they weren't super confident in me and I wasn't confident in me either but then I just thought like fuck what's the worst that can happen? Like it just fucks up a little bit you can probably rectify it if you have to and like I'm still not gonna be dead unless it really goes wrong unless I get buried Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ that's good. What were you saying about your TV show? Charles: So just. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: And I rang up the builder who lent me his tools and I was like, how'd it go? Because he was expecting it to be a bit of concrete fever like we've discussed. was like, oh, it actually was surprisingly good, eh? We were kind of chill and the finish has come up pretty nice. He says, oh, I'll tell you why that is. I was like, oh, why is that? He's like, oh, because you were relaxed and you didn't go fuck. He's like, the more you care, the worse it is, every time. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: And it's like when you're racing, sometimes you're racing your bike and you're trying so hard and like, you know, trying to generate speed everywhere, ripping corners, and then you just, your time's a shit. And sometimes you're all over the show doing dusty moves and feeling like a complete clown and you, you know, win stages or something. Ed Masters: Yeah, no, that is actually so true. Sometimes less is more. Charles: Yeah, yeah. When you stop caring. Well, you've to care about something. I haven't figured out what to care about yet, but... Yeah, obviously you should care about your partner, but I'm off the hook at the moment, which is good. You're not, but care, yeah. Care her, yeah. As you should, she's epic. Okay, TV show. Have you seen this? Fleabag. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I care about mine. Yeah. No. Charles: So my friend recommended that, because I told her I was going through a bit of a burnout. This is a whole other topic, but, ⁓ and she was like, ⁓ this is like compulsory. If you're going through a burnout or like a, what do call it? Transitional period in your life, fleabag is essential. And I've started watching it and I just don't get it, Ed Masters: Alright. Charles: I've got to come clean. I've told her as well. said, look, I just don't, don't really get what the hype's about. And someone who's listening might be a big fan and be able to explain to me what I'm missing. I might just not be intelligent enough to understand it, but it's about this chick in London. She is the fleabag. She's like sort of a dirt bag, but she just... She just keeps doing these things that are so frustrating. Like she'll sleep with someone and I'm like, no, don't sleep with that person. That's really not going to work. Like that's a bad idea. And you're just watching it and then she like will steal something or she'll like take money out of someone's wallet and just do all these little things. And you're just thinking like, but otherwise she's a really good person, but she's got this, her moral compass is a little bit, a little bit to the west of North. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah. Charles: So it's really hard to watch. You know when you're watching a movie and you are like wishing you could just shout or talk to the person. Whoa, what was that? Ed Masters: I was like, ⁓ it didn't get in there. Nah, I don't... It was the... It was giving you feedback. It just came up with a, thumbs down, ⁓ Charles: Is that you? Yeah, that's really... Was it that boring? The fleabag chat. Ed Masters: ⁓ I dunno. This is probably the robot listening. Didn't like your chat. Nah, I had my hands down here. I wouldn't- I didn't touch anything. Charles: Are you sure that wasn't you? Ed Masters: Charles raised their hand. Charles: Okay well that was quite confronting. First the fucking builders having a laugh and now Riverside's having a go at me. Fuck. Anyway, fleabag, yeah interesting one if you get time. Ed Masters: You Yeah. Yeah. I've got done- have you been to Coachella? Yeah. Because, nah, it's just, there's all the buzz around Coachella at the moment. And I was like, I had a feeling you'd- I had a feeling you'd been to Coachella. Charles: Yeah. Are you gonna go? I've been to Coachella and I loved it. I'm not really much of a festy guy, but I can get around Coachella. That was a pretty crazy experience. Especially being a Kiwi, you never see shit like that. Just the people watching is insane. Like there were these, ⁓ yeah, just the costumes. Have you heard of this guy called James Charles? He's like, Kara will know him. He's like a... ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah. Mm-mm. Yeah. I did. Nah. Charles: Influencer, celebrity sort of guy. We saw him there and he had like some pretty, pretty red hot cat on. Like everyone gets dressed up. I'd say, yeah, in a very sexy way, the guys and the girls, like it's all about the sex appeal. But there's really often not much left of the imagination, no. Some of these costumes. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah. What did you wear? ⁓ Charles: We were the most we're the most straight boring people ever like We were just wearing classic Kiwi stuff like probably a Hawaiian shirt party shirt and Yeah some shorts and some vans I think Real basic but Craig went to an op shop and Craig thought oh look, you know, it's Coachella. better get some sort of Costume so he got these striped Flares, but they were like Ed Masters: A terry bucket hat and some jandals. Charles: very figure hugging. So he had these, they like hugged his bum and his thighs. And as they got down, they flared out towards the ankle and they were like, were they pinstripes or maybe they big wide stripes. Anyway, so Craig put on these tights and we were pissing ourselves. We thought it was so funny. Like, Wheezy man, you pretty out there. And then we show up to Coachella and he just looked like vanilla. No one even looked twice. Ed Masters: Yeah, ⁓ that's sick Charles: and we were yeah, we really didn't meet the requirement in terms of dress up. Ed Masters: How did you end up being like, where is it? It's in California, Like LA. Yeah. Charles: It's in Palm Springs, California. Yeah, it's like two hours inland from LA. And we did the Grand Canyon, we did that rafting trip on the Grand Canyon. And then we came, we were kind of living like feral children. Kind of living like dogs for three weeks on the river. No showers, no shaving, just like no shoes. Didn't see any outside humans, any civilians. Ed Masters: ⁓ yeah. Charles: and then we came out from the river and went straight into Coachella. it was like, could not be more of a contrast. Ed Masters: Yeah, sick though. Charles: But it was mean, Billy Eilish was there, this was 2019. Billy Eilish, Ariana Grande, Kanye, think Kid Cudi might have come out. Yeah, it was fucking awesome, ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah, I bet. It'd be something that I'd be keen to tick off just because of all the hype around it. Charles: You realize? Well it's on this weekend ⁓ Ed Masters: Yeah, well, I just saw all that stuff coming up about Justin Bieber. He got $10 million to play two shows. I'll be like, dude, I would do that. would play the best shows of my life if they gave me $10 million. Put me on there. Yeah, I'll do it for free, 100%. Charles: I You What would you do it for? Would you do it for free? Ed Masters: I do, so my whole thing, when I, my DJ is, my alias is DJ Rockmelon. And I'd probably get my hi-ass shipped over there and I'd drive the van on the stage and DJ from the front seat of the van and chuck Rockmelons, like, or Cantaloupe or whatever, I'd chuck pieces of fruit out, chuck pieces of fruit out the side window to the, to the crowd while I DJ off my phone. Yeah. Charles: Yep. Out the back. Also, you have an AUX you just plug in the AUX and you're good to go. Yeah Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the whole thing would be like, there'd be so much hype when people see the van drive on the stage. That's the like, that's the centerpiece. Charles: And then the Rockmelons is like, that's what keeps them interested. Ed Masters: Yeah, and it's healthy. Charles: Yeah. Ed Masters: But yeah. Charles: Yeah, well if you get the chance to that, was thinking you could tie it in with Sea Otter. Ed Masters: Yeah, well, it actually... It actually... Like... I'll just sack off Saturday at the sale and go to the thing. I'm flying there tomorrow. Yeah. Charles: I know, I know. What song's dead later, downhill or something? Ed Masters: I think Downhill's on Sunday and Joel Slalom's on Saturday. ⁓ So those are just the two events I'm doing. And we've got Dave's doing a movie premiere on Friday night there, which is cool. Charles: Oh man. Yeah, what is that like? I really want to try and see it, eh? Is it going to be some public access at some point if we're not in one of these premieres? Ed Masters: Mm. It's pretty sick. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's going to go public but later in the year, ⁓ like around August, I think, but I wouldn't quote me on that. But it's definitely going to go public. ⁓ Pretty insane in that, like Hunter, the editing and stuff is so good. like the editing is just as good as the writing and they've tied it together so well. You kinda like, it's like you hop on for the... You like go on a bit of a journey as they like... Yeah, it's... Very, very, very well done. Yeah. 40 odd minutes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like without any spoilers it's pretty... There's... ⁓ there's... Cause there's a lot like happened while they were filming it so it's... It's pretty cool. And pretty comi... Comical as well. Charles: And how long is it? I it quite a good feature film. Yeah. ⁓ man. ⁓ I can't wait to see it. ⁓ the amount of mountains here to climb, metaphorically. Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah like there's some like funny shit in there. That's so good that they've got like built that into the storyline ⁓ So yeah Charles: you Yeah, mean both those guys are good and yeah, well Dave, his writing is the same but Hunter as a filmer, he's one of the best doing it at the moment. And it's not even the filming, like, yeah, the filming is hard and he has a really good eye for it but the, it's the light that... Ed Masters: big time. Charles: last 10 % of storytelling and tying it all together and the transitions and the audio, sound, all that stuff that's like the last little bit but it's the hardest bit to get right. That's what makes it. Ed Masters: Yeah, that's the impressive, like even just the transitions or like the way he segues like one scene into another with shot like, I don't know, it's very artistic, but like sick as well. Good soundtrack. Yeah, it's pretty cool. 10 out of 10. Charles: Alright, I'll definitely, yeah, I'm gonna talk to Dave. Hopefully he does a premiere in Christchurch. He was talking about it I think. Yeah. Cause Hunter's up here a bit. Ed Masters: Yeah, because, surely. ⁓ Yeah, still there at, Middle Hill right now. Mmm. Charles: Alright, can't keep up. We just released our movie, me and John. Ed Masters: I saw that. haven't actually been in car with them, meaning to sit down and watch it. Hour and a half long. That's a lot of editing. Charles: Yeah. I know, well this is what made me think about Hunter because like John's edited it all really well but I always said to him like just keep it raw don't over edit it you know like just yeah we don't need to make it like real pro but he's done a main job but an hour and a half like even I watch it to give him feedback and it takes like the whole day Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah. Charles: Because you watch it and then you pause it and you write something down and then you watch it and then you pause it and write something down. It takes at least three hours to go through it once. And I've been through it a couple of times. And I don't know why I'm complaining. I'm stoked, but I don't know how much time he spent on it. Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah, that's so for anyone interested, you can check that out on Charlie's YouTube channel. What's it called? My midterm. Yeah. Charles: Momentum yeah, and basically he's managed to find all the clothes from the whole season and someone like the travel, the dad cam, the van just all of the in-between bits, which is quite cool. So he's tied it in really well, but, like I said, I can't even manage the storage on my phone. And he's managed to put together like four different cameras into an hour and a half long movie over six months of footage. then Hunter and Dave did it over like two or three years. It's just. Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah. I think they had a ridiculous amount of footage. I think this Whangapata section was like 30 hours or something. There's some crazy numbers being thrown around. ⁓ Yeah, that'd actually be a really good shout actually. Charles: We should get Dave and Hunter on here, that would be sick. And just do it. do an episode just talking about the movie. Because all these stats that we have at the top of their head, and they'll be so good. Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely write that on the list of ⁓ next next guess Charles: What's your next podcast idea? What's your next talking point? Ed Masters: Um, I don't know if you have been following the Pari Roubaix, but that was on the weekend and yeah, it was hectic. It's like, I think today Pogacar or Pogachar or Pog however you're meant to actually, yeah, yeah, Focaccia bread. Yeah, today's Focaccia. I can't even say it now. Charles: ⁓ that sounded insane. Fakasha. Today's Fakasha, yeah. You Ed Masters: I think he did like four bike changes. At one point, at one point he was riding the Shimano, shout out Shimano, he was riding the Shimano, like neutral bike. Yeah. Charles: You ⁓ yeah, I heard that. What is a nutribike? Is it just like a white bike that anyone can use? Ed Masters: It's just a blue roadie with a Shimano logo on it and anyone can hop on it. And there's a support car. It's the neutral like support car and anyone can get help from it. And Shimano, obviously they are the like sponsor. So yeah, Taddei was on the blue Shimano bike. And then... Charles: sponsor. Ed Masters: Yeah, he got like, then he hopped on one of his teammates bikes, then he got a flat tire, so he got another bike and... But there was all the top dogs were having issues ⁓ and they were getting so sketchy. Like it looks hectic. And then it all came down to a sprint in the velodrome and Wout Van Aert like out sprinted him. Yeah. Yeah. Charles: Yeah. Look at that. That's for today, Fakasha. Ed Masters: Today's for Kashia was tomorrow's. Charles: How... How does that work, Like, oh. How far is the race? Ed Masters: Yeah. think it's like 200k or something and it's like bumpy cobbles. Half the time they're just riding on the side of the road. Yeah, on the dirt. And there's so many mechanicals and stuff and yeah, it's pretty, it's like a real classic event. But... ⁓ Charles: On the dirt. Yeah. ⁓ I've seen footage before and watched the slow-mo stuff on Instagram. Yeah. ⁓ it's brutal. But what's weird is why are they on those bikes? Wouldn't they be on like gravel bikes or something? Ed Masters: Yeah, he's like washing the front on the cobbles. Yeah. I reckon surely those, surely they are on... Surely, oh, but someone might be able to correct us, but you'd think that the bike for the Paris-Roubaix would be slightly different to the Tour bike or, yeah, because... Charles: to the Tour de France. Yeah, even the tyres, just like a bit fatter tyres. Ed Masters: Yeah, or like you know how a gravel bike has like inbuilt dampening built into the seat tube and the head tube. Charles: Yeah. Don't you think that'd be sketchy? if you're talking about washing the front, if you come into a corner and you start washing the front and then your head tube has damping. Like, is it gonna feel like you're just floating, your front just floats away from you? You know what I mean? I guess we got forks, we got suspension forks, don't we? Seems to work. Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah. I don't know, like... Yeah. But so like Vanderpoel was on, Vanderpoel was in there and then ⁓ I just saw on Instagram that he'd come out and put out that his biggest focus for this year is to, or like his, one of his main focuses is to win an XC World Championship in mountain bike. Charles: So, that's EPO. Ed Masters: Yeah, I was like, that's pretty cool to to put that. Well, to go out and publicly say that that that's like one of your biggest things is that he hasn't won rainbow stripes on the mountain bike. I was like, nah, he's pretty in. Yeah, he was just saying why he loves. He said the atmosphere and everything and just like the enjoyment that he gets out of riding the mountain bike. Surpasses a lot of other things, which is pretty cool. Charles: Has he never done that yet? Yeah. He tried to the Olympics ⁓ but then he went over the bars. Was that in Scotland? ⁓ no. What was that? Was that World Champs in Scotland? Ed Masters: Was it Tokyo? It's like he just rode off a drop and forgot to pull up. Charles: Maybe it was Tokyo, Ed Masters: Yeah, but like the 2021, you know how 2020... Yeah. But I think it was then, and he's just like... had a brain. He just forgot, it's like he forgot to pull up. Yeah. But... Charles: ⁓ 2020. Yeah. Yeah. bit of a brain fart ⁓ well hopefully it's not listening but we've got all this respect for you, you but Sam Gaze is his teammate Ed Masters: Mmm. Yeah. What is an Alphachintacoonit? Charles: Yeah, it's like a shampoo brand, I think. Ed Masters: Yeah, there's all that. It's like, ⁓ there's, they all got the heaps of, well, they obviously attract, what is it? Non endemic sponsors. Yeah. ⁓ cause it's like quick step. Cause I was actually just at the flooring shop. It's a laminate flooring and like YUMBO Visma and lease Lisa bike. Yeah. There's Charles: Yeah. What is QuickState? course. It's funny. Ed Masters: Big money, big money kicking around. Charles: Yeah, you never really, I never associate some of those things with the products. I associate it with the race team, like quick step. I just only associate that with like specialized and with the race team. And say with Alphexamint Deceuninck, I've never even seen a bottle of Alphexamint Deceuninck shampoo. Well, it's not even, I think it's just one of those. Ed Masters: No. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Charles: But what's funny is Craig and I, when we were kids, we were racing some EXC in New Zealand and we rode Cannondales. Did we? Yeah. And we had this sick kit that must have been from the Tour de France back in the day and it was Siemens Cannondale or something. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: And we never, I always just thought that was just something like the race team for Canada. And then it was years later where I went to a bathroom and turned on a tap and it was like a Siemens tap or something. ⁓ You know what I mean? Ed Masters: Yeah, it's like S-I-E-M-E-N-S. I thought Siemens was a phone company. ⁓ But no, there was Siemens Volvo. mean, Siemens Cannondale was definitely a team. That's like, right. Charles: Maybe I'll think of something else. ⁓ what is Siemens? Am I thinking of... Yeah. Yeah, really am confused now. Ed Masters: I'll lock it out. Charles: ⁓ Ed Masters: Samans. Charles: I like. Ed Masters: It's a leading German technology conglomerate focused on automation, digitalization and industrial infrastructure. Charles: i'm i think i'd like a cooktop or an oven or something i'm really happy to see my office is first time click Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: Hmm. How about? Ed Masters: Loose. Tell me about the recent purchase. I want to know. Charles: Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: Alright well, yeah Wheezy and I, ⁓ so we love the mountains, we grew up in the Southern Alps here in Canterbury. Skiing all the time, hiking and tramping in the summer and ⁓ just really in love with the mountains and the valleys up this part of the world. Same with Wanaka but this is where we grew up. and we had a batch at Lake Coleridge and then Mum and Dad sold that when we moved to Wanaka so that was about probably more than 10 years ago now that was sold. So since then Craig and I have had like a pipe dream to get a batch somewhere in the mountains in New Zealand, well in Canterbury and we've been pretty broke for the last five or 10 years so we haven't had the chance but then finally we managed to, well... big bet big steal and borrow as much money as possible and we ended up buying a batch in Arthur's Pass but it's not just a batch it's actually the old school the old Arthur's Pass village community school Ed Masters: Thanks. Sack. Charles: So I wonder if we can put a photo up as the thumbnail for the episode. yeah, it's pretty cool. It needs a bit of work. It's more operational than my house, so that's good. We went and stayed there this weekend. Ed Masters: Yeah. Charles: And the community's sick, they're like, all the people there were real friendly and welcoming. And I was chatting to Ollie and I was saying to Ollie, man, everyone seems so nice and friendly, they're inviting, they seem stoked to have us in the community. And Ollie's like, well, of course, there's two young guys coming in with all this energy and keen to do projects and things. Of course everyone's stoked. So we were really warmly welcomed up there. Yeah. Ed Masters: Hehehe. Well, it's like the, we call it in Arthur's point, the AP Swingers Club. And now you've got the Arthur's Pass Swingers Club. So these guys are probably real stoked to have some fresh blood. Charles: You some fresh blood. Come on, we'll be able to come in and swing the cat around. Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah, Kays in the ball. What's the layout of the skill? Charles: I think it's probably like 160 square meters. It's got one massive room, which was like the classroom. It's got chalkboards all around the walls, which is quite cool. And then on the side of that, someone's just like put in like an aftermarket kitchen, just so that it's sort of usable as a accommodation. And then there's two sort of bedroom bunk rooms and two bathrooms. And one of the bathrooms has like the old boys sign on it. Ed Masters: Check. Yeah. Charles: And then when you walk in there's like a coat rack for all the school bags to hang on. And it's got all the little subtleties and things left over from years gone by. It was used for a few years when they were building their teravidax, which I believe was... Ed Masters: Years gone by. Charles: I want to say that was late 90s. I it closed in 2000 for good. So only 25 years ago. But before that it was closed for like 20 or 30 years. And then originally it was full going gangbusters from maybe 19, I don't know. When was it built? for ages but they shut it down in like 1970 for 20 years and then reopened it for this Viaduct project because all these people were in the village. But yeah, you're welcome to stay Edie. Ed Masters: So what's your guys plan? What's the plan with it? Is that a good question? Charles: Good question. What we want to do is like do a bit of a reno. Because it's like it's all good now you can go and stay in it and live in it but it's not real comfortable. It's like single glazing, bit drafty. We can't get any water in the kitchen sink for some reason so any plumbers... There's like all the plumbing and then it disappears into the concrete, because it's concrete slab, but just no water comes out. And even when all the water's on, every other tap and valve is on. So yeah, that needs to be sorted. I think what we'll do is just strip it back, double glaze it, re-line it and insulate it, and just put up plywood or like timber. Ed Masters: Mmm. Charles: everywhere so it's just real hard wearing like a dot cut we want to make it like a kind of like a fancy dot cut because then you can come in you can make a mess you can have muddy shoes you can spill shit you can just wipe it down clean it and it's gonna last for ages because we don't want to go away to the batch and then have to be tidy it's like the whole point you go to the batch so yeah we're gonna do it like a reno hopefully this year Ed Masters: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Charles: and then it's got a tennis court next to it and like a big paddock and in the paddock there's a playground. So we'll probably just leave that playground there for like, it's got like a slide, fireman's pole, one of those wobbly bridges. We'll probably just leave the playground there for the community just to use and then we might like put in a little sauna and maybe like a tiny house on that paddock. But that'll probably be stage two, so at the moment we'll just. gonna get the school to like a nice, dialled state. But we might have to have a, well I was thinking like, what do call it, like an open school day, like bring your, bring your wife to school day. Everyone in the, yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah. Sack. of Working Bay. It's like show and tell. Charles: So I was thinking if we could, get all you guys up there and we'll get some of the crew from Christchurch and we'll go for a big weekend up to AP. in the bowl. Ed Masters: Yeah, that's insane. ⁓ congrats on achieving a lifelong dream. Charles: Yeah, well, if you'd be able to say to us, like, ⁓ you sure you want to do this? Like, it's a bit of money and things. And then I just thought, like, fuck. It's only money. If you could die tomorrow, I'd rather have the skill today, you know? Ed Masters: Yeah. Yeah, I like this thought process. It's Charles: the new mantra. will be some downsides to it so I'll let you know when I find them but so far, so good. Ed Masters: ⁓ I've got housemates just arriving so we might have to wrap it up soon. Yeah. Charles: We're an hour on the dot so I think we're pretty good. Is there any last bits of chat? Ed Masters: Now we just need people to send in your, ⁓ anything. Send it in. Yeah. And we'll, we promise we'll have a guest next week. Someone. Charles: to lemmas. Yeah, the juicier the better and you won't be named. Yep. And then um... So wait, oh other thing was Working Bee. Pretty keen to do a Working Bee at my place, so we'll have to um... start the planning for that. Oh it's a shame it's not made of fourth. Ed Masters: We'll lock in a date. Yeah, I think I'll get back on May the 5th. Yeah, may the fourth be with you. Charles: So what have you got? got this weekend, Sea Otter. Ed Masters: Yeah, I'm kind of just, I'm away for three weeks. Wednesday to Wednesday. Charles: Yeah. And you go to... go to South Korea, Fuck yeah. Ed Masters: Yep. Yep. Nah, I'm keen as on that, ⁓ So it should be good. Yep. Like. Like, share and subscribe. We can probably get a, ⁓ we can- Charles: I'll be tuning into your content. Everyone else, should tune into Edie's Connie. What are you going do? Just YouTube, highlight, raw videos? Ed Masters: Yep, just the usual business and yeah, nah, looking forward to it. I'm just going to go to South Korea, it should be good. Better travel. Charles: Fuck yeah. Yeah. ⁓ it's cool like this, that sort of spot you'd never go otherwise. Yeah. Ed Masters: Yeah, so, and it's, a bit of hype around the first round. So it's going to be cool to be there. All right. Well, if I had to pack, I won't look a shorter one. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Adios. Charles: Who's your money on? or yeah, I'm a big Lucca fan. I'll let you go Eddie, because it sounds like you've got people. Yeah, keep in touch. Ciao.