speaker-0: Breathe, trail. speaker-1: Lorenzo you're back. You guys are back. I've been hearing you guys are back. You're back from a bear hunt. Barry talked a little bit about it, but we're going to dive into your bear hunt. And then you're getting ready to leave I think. speaker-2: back. The boys are bad. speaker-0: I am back. ⁓ yeah. I really begin. Where do you live? I'll leave Friday. speaker-2: Where you going? No. speaker-1: Did you know he was leaving? Yeah, he's leaving again. speaker-0: Canada. speaker-2: More bears? Yep. Best. Must be nice to be Brady. speaker-0: Barrier with the Bears are bat- are just the coolest animal. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, where are you out on bears Lorenzo? We'll dive into it, but I'd be curious on there. Yeah, I want to hear because then I also have my take on that. Yeah, we're yet. speaker-2: Wanna know where I'm at with bears right now? Dude, I'm a big turkey guy. can go live a happy life for me right now. Dude, the turkey hunt was so fun. I should have done this. I've been saying this a lot. With Spike Elk and I don't know, it's weird. With the kids, with my boys, the age they are. speaker-0: And I'm the opposite. Mm-hmm. speaker-2: Just the ease of opportunity for these tags out there, like these being over the counter, the spike health tag being over. I can't believe I haven't been doing this with my kids. It's unbelievable. But now I found it and I felt guilty that I did it without my kid because it was just such, I mean, it's right up the alley for that. So next year already have this whole thing planned. speaker-1: found it. now you know what you know you can go out and plan down. ⁓ yeah. You can do a turkey tour. You and Turle. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-2: Yeah. And the wife, Romeo, if he can sit still, maybe he could buy, they don't be three. It'd be tough. Yeah, that's what I'm. speaker-1: Yeah, that might be hard. You're doing a blind. speaker-0: I yeah. speaker-1: That would be awesome. but no desire to go coach you to bear. speaker-2: Zero. I don't know how many I've killed now, four or five maybe. I mean, not like a crazy number, but I've killed them in the spring. It's fun. But I'm just big turkey guy now. speaker-1: I'm not really a big turkey guy, I'm also kind of I think I was telling a buddy the other day. I think I think the next bear I shoot will have a donut in its mouth. Like if I didn't bait it, I don't know that I want to shoot it, to be honest. I don't know. I'm having a hard time thinking about going like on a big backpack adventure or it's like spot and stock bear hunting, which I get it. I get the allure to it. I just like. speaker-2: Fuck, cause you want to pay that. speaker-0: You speaker-1: baiting them so much that I think I would I think I would do that. And I think I was talking to you guys internally, I want to get somebody and we might have missed the window. But at some point on this podcast, I would like to get somebody that is a master bear baiter. speaker-0: It is a cool aspect. speaker-2: I feel speaker-0: What you did there. speaker-1: I was very deliberate in the way I deliver. I want to get somebody on that's like really in a bait and bears because there's like a complete science to it's I don't think it's just like you go out and throw some food on the ground and climb up on a tree. speaker-2: Baited bears. I would be in for that. That would be... speaker-0: No. speaker-2: They got like stations and they run them, strategically run them. speaker-1: There's a process to this whole thing. speaker-0: document that process. Like, got a bear tag, you can go in whatever state you can go locate this bait, go reach out to people try to get it. Can you get it for free? You buying like big bulks of dog food or old donuts or old produce, whatever it could be. speaker-2: If there's donuts man, I'd just be walking out and grabbing my own bait going back to the stand speaker-1: I baited bears one time and I went to, I had like the local grocery store. I went and talked to the lady at the deli or whatever. And she was like, yeah, if you were here early, like really are like four in the morning, it was Albertsons and Richfield. You can get all the, the baked, you know, goods and whatnot. And I, I pretty much remember walking into a bear stand one time and I was like eating hunks of cake. I had shed like full cakes. I was like, I love frost. I told you I frost. I love frosting. I'm going to eat that frosting on my way into the bait. speaker-0: making some jello and dropping all over the bait so the bear tracks it away. speaker-1: I ⁓ mean, I've been I've been one time to Canada, I got a connection there with a little outfitter. And like we should say lanes up there right now. Yeah. And I've heard he's seen a lot of bears. speaker-2: You got any baited bear connections? I've never done On a on a bait speaker-0: Really? Yeah. Badass. Yeah. speaker-1: He asked me before he left. He's like, ⁓ you know, when you went, were you like seeing bears? And I was like, I think the first like half day I sat is pouring rain. And the guy was like, do you want to go out? And I was like, yeah, I want to go out. If there's a chance that I got to see a bear and he's like, you'll see bears. But I think I saw 16 that first night. And that was like an anomaly. Cause I did set other nights, whole nights where I didn't have anything come in, but that first night and 16 different bears. It was so fun. And then I'd be in for that. The process of baiting them is. speaker-2: Yeah, that would be so fun. So let me retract my current statement of where I'm at with bears. The US bears, they can pound sand. If I can bait them, I'm in. ⁓ speaker-1: You'd bait a bear? Chicago. speaker-0: There's a few states you can bait them. Wyoming, Idaho. speaker-2: Is there still? speaker-1: Yeah, you can still bet. Really? You can bet if you draw a tag and you have to register them. speaker-2: Okay, so those bears can have it the rest of them can pounce in speaker-1: I'm patiently waiting on a bait bear tag in Utah. I can't wait. That would be fun. I thought I would draw this year. Didn't draw. Hopefully next year I catch that point break, you know, and I get a chance to go do it because man, it's fun. speaker-2: I want to do it. speaker-0: What are your thoughts on running dogs for bears? Would you be mad? speaker-2: Love it. I killed my archery bear. My human face. That's why I him was running with running dogs. It was so fun. I don't want to. mean, I did it and it's like fun enough. I highly recommend it. But took me a while to draw that tag. I don't want to like wait on that stuff. speaker-0: the one that's the one So let me paint this picture again. You would rank turkey hunting this 15 to 20 pound dinosaur looking thing than a majestic, respectable, top-headed black bear. speaker-2: Respectable bear. speaker-1: respect bear. speaker-0: Hmm. You're telling me. speaker-2: Right now the turkey hunt. just went on now. Granted every hunt is different for sure, but that is the most L cutting thing I have done even more so than L cutting. If that makes sense. That is the, that is the most L cunt I've ever been on. speaker-0: statement. Okay. speaker-2: It was incredible. Like the whole time we were hunting I'm like this is this is an elk cut. speaker-1: I'm asked that before, but the sound of a turkey or a couple of them, like on the roost, they're gobbling at first light on the roost. It's one of the, might be top. Incredible. You have elk below bugling, Turkey gobbling. I think those are like top two for me. Sounds in nature. That's That's the epitome. speaker-2: to you. And when they're coming into a call. And we were true. the, the Tom, ended up killing were tracking them like that because he was interested in us, but then these deer. So we made a stand first. sat on decoys, made a stand. I'll make this story really quick. And we got his attention. He was coming in. He couldn't see our decoys from where he was, the way the topography rolled, but we could hear them. And if you kind of like stood up over the blind, we were in this like front covered area, you know, so you just stand up and look back. You could see him out there and he was like strutting and he was coming our way. But as he got into shooting distance, maybe like 30, 40 yards and he was right there and he could see our decoys. There was these four or five white tail deer that picked up our scent and we're snorting and stomping. And I mean, he was, he was on a line right to us and they messed it up for us. So I'm really mad at white tail deer right now, cause it would have been awesome video. ⁓ so he ended up like being interested, but kind of staying on that back line and then. losing interest because the decoys never moved obviously. like, you know, the deer. So he ended up, he ended up taking off, but he was alone. Tom must've lost his hands from one of the other gobblers we were hearing. It's a big Tom though. So we track him and started calling Adam and like just following his gobble and he would turn around and like almost break out. But I think those deer just kind of had them like spun out a little bit. speaker-1: just like trailing a bull out. speaker-2: Yeah, exactly. And we would call, he would gobble, we would call, he would gobble and we kept like cutting him off. We cut like cutting them off. Then we finally made the stand in this big meadow and he came right to the edge of the meadow and stuck his, stuck his bright red hat, ⁓ head out. His head was ready. He was pissed off. Couldn't find what was going on. There was new, no decoys. We like quickly left. We should have brought the decoys with us looking back, but new Turkey Hunter learning this as we go. Definitely should have brought the decoys because when he stuck his little head out and looked into the meadow and there was nothing, he lost interest like pretty quick. And I don't want to call because I mean, They can pinpoint, right? Just like an elk. So I'm like, I don't want to call him, like really freak him out. Maybe he'll come in interested. And he just stayed on the outskirts of this meadow. I ended up leaving. So we, I used the topography to cut them off and I could hear him gobbling the whole way. So he knew where we were going and he ended up coming over this ridge as we were coming over the ridge. And I shot him at like 40 yards, but the entire time calling, following the gobble, getting them to sound off to see where he's at, see which way he's going. I mean, it was the most elk cutting thing I've done in the last five years. because out cutting has sucked over the last five years. It was like the total outcome. speaker-1: They are cool and they're cool. We were having this discussion internally yesterday. I want to hit Brady with it. He's probably going to hate that I bring this up, but what's your thoughts on reaping turkeys? speaker-0: think it's absolutely stupid. speaker-1: Brady hates the ice. speaker-2: I think it is the coolest thing I've ever seen. And maybe because I'm a new Turkey hunter, but we were up at the Turkey rodeo for Pacific calls. That's what got me into this whole thing. Yes. Pacific calls thrown this Turkey rodeo. We competed in it, did the whole thing. There's a lot of. Like, I mean, they are Turkey hunters. There was people that flew in from North and South Carolina, Missouri. They came in from everywhere. One, cause they needed to shoot a Miriam's for their slam. two, cause it's just a really cool opportunity to go chase a bunch of turkeys on public, public land that are like, they're in it, man. They call, they, they come into calls. It was awesome. But anyways, I had learned about reaping. Cause they had a bunch of turkey fans and people were talking about it. So I asked the dumb question of what it is. They started showing me videos. I just was like, this is awesome. Why is this looked down upon? I don't get it. No, it's like, look down. speaker-0: Turkey hunting to me. speaker-1: I was arguing with Brady yesterday. I'm like you would decoy any other animal he decoyed elk you got Montana decoys you pop those up and all of the decoys people use them all the time they get the buck to run in because he's pissed off. It's legitimately the exact same thing is decoying an antelope buck it's it's saying this. Would you hesitate to decoy an antelope? speaker-0: I know but to me it's just like traditional more just like turkey hunting is it's fun to work a bird in close and kill them and like be skilled enough to do it without having to do something because like they just get so enraged that they can't control themselves and then they come in it's like you're you're kind of cheating the process in a way I like the just the roots of calling bird and like being on the ground with them if you have to be in a blind and these decoys like I'm okay with that, like, I think it's weird reaping a turkey, especially the safety aspect of it when these, there's a lot of idiots out there. speaker-1: the only argument that I can really see because it's like, yeah, I get it. If it's a general season hunt and there's people in the field with shotguns, I might be a little hesitant to think about fanning out and potentially getting shot. I get the public safety part of it, but like the ethics. speaker-0: I speaker-1: of that to me. me you. speaker-2: You don't decoy them? You don't put out a decoy? speaker-0: I didn't kill my bird this time with decoy now. speaker-2: Well, I mean, you... The most traditional thing turkey hunting is on a decoy. speaker-0: Eh. I get already against that. think it's funnier to- speaker-2: I it's like... ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, the hands the whole thing, right? speaker-2: baking a hen or you do a lay down hen speaker-0: Bow hunting I've killed majority of mine with decoys in a blind because I've always bone this is the first time I've ever Shotgun hunted and so we didn't use decoys is running a gun and like that aspect of it was fun because it extra challenging get there speaker-2: I killed mine is we once we left the decoy We just kept calling and getting them to circle back and circle back and we finally ended up He was like half circle half moon all the way back until we got him on this topography rise And that's why I killed him was super fun I would have preferred to kill him on a decoy because I think decoying animals is awesome. Right like isn't that? speaker-1: I mean, if I'm looking at this as like if I'm right in the middle, right? Like if I'm I'm I'm I'm down the middle. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. If I look at the thrill. of what it must be like to be laying there with fan and this pissed off Tom running just running running in and he's gobbling and fanning and strutting and it gets like three yards four yards. I know. It sounds super thrilled. Okay. speaker-2: I'm exactly in your boat. I'm new to this whole thing, right? ⁓ I'm new to this turkey hunting thing. Maybe it's the duck hunter in me about wanting to decoy him and get him super close to the whole deal. They, when we were at the Turkey rodeo round up that night when all the turkeys are being checked in and they start handing off the handing out the rewards. That's when they start talking about reaping. asked the question. They show me a video. My immediate response. So I looked at Trev and I go, why, why didn't I do this? Like, whoa, how come we didn't do this one? Nobody told me about this. speaker-1: Doesn't it look? It looks really cool. speaker-2: to speaker-0: Maybe it's an old soul, but I fully Like I can't I quote this saying it's from an Instagram account copper-plated sixes I fully believe on everything he's doing right now about the turkey hunting thing and it's getting really crazy, but it's okay if the turkey wins it's okay to make it hard and to call a turkey in and Shoot it the right way. Yes, you could say is hard percent speaker-2: It's totally legal to it. speaker-1: How do you tease that apart from any other animal though? speaker-0: It's just that Turkey's kind of different. They just get amped up and fired up that they'll come running in. And it's like, do you have to do it that way? speaker-1: Like you said. Would you shoot an animal with a decoy and a bow? You decoyed it in? It's like the same. Is it not the same? I see it as the same, feels the same to me. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: What so Alex my duck hunting guy who I started slayed northwest with in college He's brand new to duck hunting or to turkey hunting as well But obviously he's he'd been duck hunting longer than I have but him and I go back to it what it reminded us of When we were in the conversation with everybody, they're telling us it's looked down upon. It's frowned upon all the, like the real turkey hunters. Well, we compared it to was using an Angus or like a, kind of cow decoy to stock a cattle pond and jump shoot. Like when you were a kid, mean, Have ever done that? Jump shooting ducks off a pond, getting behind a cattle cow decoy or jump shooting snow geese behind it. It's a huge thing in snow geese hunting, snow goose hunting too. If you jump shoot them, you get behind a cow decoy and go. Like what it there's seems to be no difference in my mind of those two things. speaker-0: mentality though in terms of snow geese it's where it's like you just are eliminating them because there's so many of them you can use unplug shotguns there's no limits or anything a turkey is like turkey is like a respected animal yeah it's like turkey to me is i like it for the challenge and yes i've used decoys i've shot them on the ground blinds with my bow speaker-2: That is valid. monocle and dot hat. speaker-0: But like, enjoy working a bird, getting outsmarted by a bird that has a brain the size of a P because they are smart and it's fun. And it just adds that extra challenge to it. So like to me, it's just like a respect thing towards the bird. should hunt it in a way that is just more, I think it's more enjoyable. could say, yes, maybe reaping is really adrenaline rush, but like to me, it's like, it's cheating to another level because the Turkey responds a certain way. I guess not every single Turkey also does not respond to a fan and get reaped in, like, it's just cheating the experience, cheating the moment. speaker-1: I would like to try before I pass judgment on it. speaker-0: I'm going to pass you, I'm never going to try it. speaker-2: I would love to try it. I can't wait to try it actually. can't I am going to try it. speaker-1: Yeah, I couldn't pass judgment on it. I mean, here's the thing is like to me, it can't be that easy. It's not like turnkey. Like fan bird comes into three yards like it's not that speaker-2: It's funny you say that because that was my response to when they were showing me the videos I'm like so every turkey they see this fan and just come they come running and they said no I go okay well then it's kind of like decoying and then then right well no let's look down upon because it's so easy like well you just told me that not every turkeys it's not like you throw the fan out and they all come running in man the other comment I made to him too is like there's a lot of jakes being shot speaker-1: Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is an interesting one. speaker-2: Mm-hmm. A lot, right? Any bearded, any bearded turkey is legal. So bearded hen, Jake or Tom. Yep. There's a lot of Jake's being killed out there because turkey hunting is can be hard. It can be frustrating, difficult. know, you get two tags up there over the counter. So like a lot of people are shooting Jake's. Well, if you're reaping them, kind of be more selective. speaker-1: Yeah, you feel more selective, right? speaker-2: take those older ones out, the ones that are pissed off and trying to get all the jakes out of the country. So what about the conservation standpoint of like, only shooting Toms know jakes when that's to reap a jake when it come in. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I mean ⁓ That's why they talk a little bit like nobody wants can go full circle because we can take this back to bear hunting because that's one of the arguments for bear baiting is that you then have the ability to show shoot the oldest largest male under a really controlled situation right like you get to bait in you get to be selective you get to shoot the oldest largest animal yeah yeah I like I like that yeah see where your heads at speaker-0: I think there's just so much more respect to the bird. It should be hard to work in the dominant gobbler and kill that. speaker-1: I want to see if it's that easy before I pass judgment on it before I'm like, this is the easiest thing in the world. Like this is literally like shooting fish in a barrel. Unless it's that I would have a hard time saying like, you shouldn't do it. ⁓ speaker-0: also have a hard time with people shooting these like, you new ammo that can make people are shooting like birds at 80 yards. There's like a lot of people doing that too. have turkeys. Yeah. Hard stance. speaker-1: the speaker-2: Dude, I my turkey off hand because I had to stand up because of the way the rise was and I could just listen to his gobble. So like, as I am coming up, I'm fully stood up because it was such a, such like a elevation loss. And right when I pop up and finally see his head, I'm like fully up. Like I'm not, I can't crouch. can't do anything. 30 yards maybe. Yeah, I'm, you know, shooting a shotgun. You're like shooting, you're shooting these patterns with ducks out there at 20, 30 yards, but it's like, you're not like aiming at a fixed thing with such a small load or like such small amount of BBs. That was a very stressful shot to shoot off hand 30 yards and you're shooting at a golf ball. Remember it like my air, my, ⁓ speaker-1: Did you have to do? speaker-2: ⁓ yeah. My bead was floating and in my head I remembered I'm like just thinking I'm like shoot it just like you would archery. Cause I'm like trying to get it to settle and it won't settle. Obviously it's a lot harder to shoot because with the bow and you have back and front pressure, but I, my arrow pins float like pretty good. And I've told you this, I'm not that I'm a command shooter cause I'm not a dot shooter, but I like to think I can get it to go off when I want it to. So that's what I do with the shotgun. I just picked up the pattern it was floating on. And then as soon as it dropped right below his head and I knew it was coming back up, I just smashed trigger. Nice dropped them. Did a backflip. speaker-1: What about spot and stock turkey hunting, Brady? How do feel about that? speaker-0: Kim with the Bo Spontan stock in January. speaker-1: Everybody I talked to locally, like in the last week since the hunts open, there's not one person I've been like, ⁓ just call in the end. They're like, nah, I just really work. Like I'm pretty much just spot and stock turkey hunting. like, that doesn't sound like that much fun to me. Like, I don't know. Reaping sounds more interesting than that. speaker-2: That doesn't sound fun. Yeah. I got like the best of all worlds because we did call him in but it was just I could have shot behind But the way we were set up like it just it wasn't worth it I could have like turned around because I had a tree behind us I could have like used that got skinny and turned around but I wanted him to come into the decoys deer Got him off. So I got that experience and then I got the experience of like calling him Constantly and just poking his head out just poking his head out and like able to visually see him and then know where we were gonna cut him off So I got like decoy calling spot stock I got the yeah you got it the full turkey road speaker-1: The whole turkey rodeo. speaker-0: you speaker-1: Brady, I do appreciate your willingness to like fight, fight it. The good fight. I know that it's hard for me to speak to it because I never, you I haven't done it. I haven't done it. And I know that people are pretty passionate about it being, you know, unethical. So it's hard for me to say, but I appreciate your willingness to argue the other side of the coin. speaker-0: taking to this. Yeah, I mean, I just... It's dumb. speaker-2: looks exhilarating. It does look... looks absolutely exhilarating. Maybe as I become a turkey hunter, maybe I'll feel that same way. speaker-0: As a guy who used to be a diehard turkey hunter, used to go to multiple states, shot a lot of birds. I enjoy... No, no. I've only shot Marriam's and... Eastern's? Eastern's and some Rio hybrid type thing. speaker-2: Do you have the slam? mudbirds. ⁓ I've learned so much about trees. They call them the mudbirds, the Rio Miriams mix. Marios. Up there they call them mudbirds because the way their fans like it mudded color on the where that's supposed to be whiter for Miriams. speaker-1: Marios ⁓ speaker-0: I like custom calls. have some really nice calls I spent a lot of money on. had one custom made with one of my turkey feathers. Yeah, turkey. So once you either want to call one in and reap it. speaker-2: Like learn how to call. It's very fun. Pop calls my favorite by far. absolutely yeah for sure but i want to reap it as well like it looks exhilarating speaker-1: What if I called and reaped? Why do they call it reaping? really think that's like somebody. I don't know. I mean, somebody thought that they had a negative commentate connotation and they just put reaping to it. Just sounds terrible. speaker-0: probably coined it back then. speaker-2: Yeah, they put the worst word. speaker-0: This brings out unethical behaviors and it brings out just dangerous things. Even if you're on private land, like there's so many videos of people like just doing really dumb unsafe things. speaker-2: I would a 410 judge pistol behind a fan. Sounds so fun. Does that not sound fun? No. Does that trail? speaker-1: I mean, I want to try it. I think it's interesting for sure. I don't honestly like I understand the safety concerns and then I'm going to jump topics but I understand the safety concerns totally get that but the ethical side of it that's where the like kind of falls apart for me because I just I don't get it. I don't understand it like we'll decoy all kinds of things. We'll decoy geese and ducks and elk and antelope like and then like everything. speaker-2: cool thing to do goose hunting is land them like that's the turn it into a turkey hunt like that's you know you did so right The thing with waterfowls, like they're flying, they're hard to hit, right? Yeah. Cool thing in goose hunting is, is to land a big flock and turn it into a turkey hunt. And that's like, people think that's really cool. Isn't that, it's a lot easier to shoot one standing there than it is flying. they turn that over to turkeys and it's like, no, can't do it. speaker-1: Look. Can you? All right, Brady. That's a good, good, good discussion. I liked it because I did want to dig into it because I knew you were like, I'm a purist when it comes to college. Sorry. You're cool. We had another topic I wanted to hit. Do you want to hit it? I want to get Lorenzo's take on this. I just saw this today. speaker-0: Passionate on the opposite side. I am curious. This There's an article posted from the Cowboys State Daily. ⁓ Man cited for trespass after seven year old son grabs antlers with tracking device. So to nab trespassers ⁓ hunting shed antlers on a ranch in Hot Springs County, Game and Fish put tracking devices and antlers and planted them around the ranch. The first one was picked up by a local seven year old boy, which got his father a ticket. So state game and fish putting tracking devices and planting shed antlers onto this guy's property. Probably, probably maybe he had issues in the past. People sneaking on his property and stealing sheds and ⁓ seven little boy trespassed and got his father ticket. speaker-2: That can't be real. speaker-1: Yeah, I that speaker-0: I've always heard rumors of like doing it on game ranges, putting tracking devices and shedding hours trying to catch shed poachers who sneak in early before the game ranges are open to do it. speaker-1: know it happened in Utah the year that they had the closure because of the bad winter. They closed it until like May 1st, I think I know for a fact that they were putting sheds out with with tracking mechanisms in it. I don't know that because I picked one up. I'm just illegally. I'm just saying I know for a fact that that happened. Which is interesting in itself. But the curious thing was like the reaction to it. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I like he... speaker-2: Look, I understand from that standpoint because it is a hard thing to govern. So I understand from like they're closing an area and they don't want the pressure on the animals is a bad winner. Like I do believe in the science behind that. Sure. Getting a bunch of shed hunters out there within reason. I'm not saying I'm like fully bought into it. I can just see an angle. do see the angle. Yeah, I see the reasoning. This on private property like. I don't know. I guess I can see their angle too. Cause you, you buy it, you pay the taxes on it. You, know, it's, it's that it's that person's so they want to protect it. Yeah. I see that angle throw the seven year old in there. And you actually like took it all the way down to right in the ticket. It's a seven year old. speaker-1: It's private land. speaker-0: Trespass. The interesting part on the social media side. you know, this account posted this and ⁓ basically I'll read it says, ⁓ unfortunately, fishing game has been doing this for years, but now we just have to be smarter as hunters and we have to turn our Bluetooth on and make sure no tracker show up before you pick up sheds nowadays, dot, dot. speaker-2: I don't see the angle. I speaker-0: Fish and game need to worry about more pressing things like how to manage our wildlife instead of worry about planting sheds to bust people dot dot dot and it ends right there. And then the comments. That's all a comment to the start of the post. Yeah, from the user. speaker-2: All one comment. Okay. First of all, you're the first part of that. You're doing way more illegal than just this. speaker-0: Yeah, if you're saying, ⁓ now we have to Bluetooth on and make sure no tracker shows. speaker-2: Like that speaker-1: ⁓ now we have to be even more cautious when we break the law. speaker-2: Correct. Like that. It's exactly. I thought those were two different comments when you first know those. The first one is just so clearly like, okay, you're doing other stuff. You're breaking other laws. If you're just that open. speaker-0: Ready? speaker-1: I mean you could extrapolate this out as far as you want. You could be like, ⁓ now I have to make sure I don't have my night vision goggles in the truck when I'm out. speaker-2: thermal binoculars while I'm scouting. speaker-1: To me that comment is just like lost the plot. Like I get the fact that it's a seven year old kid but he and his dad apparently they broke the law like they were trespassing. speaker-2: This if they know for sure it was a seven year old who did it, which maybe the dad did it and blamed it on a seven year old. speaker-1: I don't think a seven year old is out there on his own. I would assume that he was probably out there with his dad and they were like, hey, we're gonna go shed on I'm sure the seven year old didn't know shit about he's just out there on a shed hunt with this old man. That's that would be my assumption. speaker-2: I did. just where I get really, like not mad, but frustrated with that is don't I hate when you're giving young kids bad experiences in the outdoors. Like you could a penalty, not as I don't know who knows, but like just, I don't like the bad experience. speaker-1: I get that. But to me, it's like, I mean, they broke the you're trespassing. 100 % love it. Hate it. Respect it. It's a law. It's a law like that's private property. The guy pays for it. speaker-2: And the guy paid for it. This is on it. Yeah. Takes care of it. I get that. speaker-0: There's a lot of comments that basically say the same thing. It's like little entrapment. ⁓ fishing game or in place to help manage populations, force poaching violations, using taxpayer money to entrap shed hunters on private properties. Hardly what I want my taxpayer taxpayer dollars doing sales. Another comment on there. And there's a lot of people saying like land may be private, but the wildlife is supposed to be public. Like, so you're these con somebody's comments are basically saying it's okay. Cause That's public wildlife and you should be able go on private property and grab an antler. speaker-2: with that. Completely could not disagree with that. speaker-0: It's kind of crazy right there. speaker-1: What do you make of like the in the argument of like entrapment that you're like, or even the argument that they're like, Hey, game and fish shouldn't be doing this. Like this is something that's not worthwhile. You shouldn't be putting GPS trackers on shed antlers to try to try to trap people try to do speaker-2: Again, probably just. speaker-0: mean robot decoys all the time. Is that entrapment then? Shooting from a vehicle from a road probably on a private. speaker-2: I think it's good that they do all this stuff. Now granted, they're not perfect in their management of wildlife and they could be doing things a lot better, but there is an entire host of things, of variables that they can't control that's affecting how they are wanting to, like when we talked to the Utah guy, like they deal with so much stuff. From private landowners, from the public, from XYZ, all these variables, they can't just go out there and manage the wildlife. It's not that simple because there's all this other variable going on. So because of that, they're just not allowed to do easy things. Like this is really easy. That's why I like that they're doing it. It's like, is an easy thing to do. Very easy. speaker-1: Yeah, and I think whether we whether we like it or not that relationship between private land and public wildlife is it exists like private land support public wildlife. They just do like that's something that happens and it's a good thing that happens right because speaker-2: Isn't it a crazy percent too? How much it helped. speaker-1: Yeah, think yeah decent amount but I mean point being like this is obviously a piece of property that is healthy enough in habitat that it supports wildlife through a portion of the year, right? Now you can say that it's public wildlife I should be able to do whatever I want. But reality is like it's a public resource and animals move, right? They're going to go from private land to public. They're going to go up and down the landscape. They're going to move. They're going to transition. It's fluid. But like just because that's the case, I don't think that you should not be able to like help this dude on his private land. ⁓ You know, keep people off that are people. I mean, they're only there for the wildlife. It's not like you're walking around his property for shits and giggles like they're there to pick up shit antlers, right? Which is a public resource, public animal on private property. So in my opinion, I'm just like, yeah, I get it. Like, yeah, this is means for them to help this private landowner keep people off his property that shouldn't be there. speaker-2: Yeah, completely agree now Do I like that they put the GPS trackers on a winter range public that you're that's closed essentially to recreation like yeah I mean that that seems like a better use case if you're gonna use the GPS trackers, but this is good, too speaker-1: I mean where it boils down to me is it's like this is a non-issue, completely non-issue. It never has to be done, ever. You don't have to put GPS trackers on a shed antler if it's not a problem. speaker-2: Correct. And so what I was, what I was going to say to the, on the other side of this, if it being on the private land is the, the other side of this too, is like the, the kind of the river that flows down from this. It's like, yeah, they're out there catching people, breaking the law. And that is a good piece of news to get out into, you know, this guy's Hindi, once blue turn his Bluetooth on his phone, like, yeah, that's why they're doing this kind of stuff. speaker-1: I would bet if you ask those fishing game officers like, you're pretty stoked about, know, putting a GPS on a shed antler out on this private property. They're probably like, no, this sucks. Like I'm, this is kind of a bummer that I have to do. speaker-0: because there is probably better things you should be doing. speaker-1: But this is a persistent problem that's existing and it's a conflict between a private landowner and public wildlife that exists on this guy's land. So something I essentially have to deal with. I'm like my hand has to be kind of forced, right? It's probably an uncomfortable thing that they I would assume, I think. speaker-2: Yeah, but also though, like I would agree that that's probably what's in their head. But also what's in their head has got to be like, we're catching people doing illegal stuff. So now the story out there is we catch people doing illegal stuff. So stop doing it. Don't speaker-1: Yeah, don't trespass for she had a lot of hours. Yeah, don't trespass and shoot deer on somebody's problem. speaker-2: pick up sheds before the season opens. Like we're catching people doing illegal stuff. think that is a good storyline to be out there to other hunters. Cause clearly, you know, just by the first part of this comment, I think there's people are doing all kinds of stuff. Entrapment or not entrapment, uh, admission like right there that you, okay, now you're going to turn your Bluetooth on. speaker-1: Yeah, I just... me that comments like dude you lost the plot. The thing is, they broke the law. You know, I don't know. me that's it to me. speaker-2: Correct. I'm sure they want to be doing other things that benefit wildlife more. Yeah, 100 % they do. variables they can't control that makes those things really hard and take a lot of time and really difficult. And this is something they can go do in an hour with no approval. speaker-1: Yeah, that was an interesting one. Brady, you got any feelings you want to tack on at the end of it or we cut it for you? speaker-0: I don't we can cut this one. It's silly, it's trespassing, bud. speaker-2: So don't do it. It's a law and it's illegal to break. speaker-1: You know the fun thing about putting this out into the whole the world, the world wide web. I know for a fact that you will have people that disagree and that's fine. Let me know. I would like to hear it. Drop a comment. ⁓ Tell us why we're wrong. speaker-2: Sure. speaker-0: mean, this is probably not the same case, but it's like if I go put a tent out there and I'm hunting and go leave that tent for the day to go hunt, like I expect to come back and that tent to be still there. Cause that's like, know, your private prop, private piece of something on public grounds. That means like people can just go steal a tent. You can steal a trail camera when it's on there. Like this whole thing becomes kind of like, it's weird what people are willing to do to someone else's property in a sense. Like maybe it's not the best example because it's like, okay, it's on public. Or if I, if I park a, you know, a Mustang car out in your backyard, like that's your car and your private property because you drove it on a public road a little bit ago. Does that mean someone should go and like, I'm going to go that it already park it at trailhead and it's on public ground. So I'm going to take this public trailhead. speaker-2: I see where you're coming from though. Just have at it, There's there's laws and rules and to be civilized you leave that guy's tent alone on private or on public property and you don't trespass on private property that somebody paid for and owns like that's just the way it is that's the rule that's how it works speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, to me it's just like it just is that it is what it is. It is what it is. that's a silly statement, but yeah, I mean it's like stay away from the private, man. Just respect it. Respect the boundary, right? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: And I like the private landowners can, you know, the whole daddy war bucks vibe of like just bad people, you know, they own it. You don't like screw them. That whole mentality. I see where it comes from. Like it's valid. The feeling of it. But you don't know that guy's story either. What if he worked his absolute ass off and like that is his like that's his kingdom now. And he just. loves it more than anything in the world. You know what mean? Like you don't know what he went through to get that property and you might think he's an asshole for doing this, but it's like his, it's his thing. He earned it. He bought it. That makes sense. speaker-1: I mean, don't even mean, yeah, I mean, the reality is, is I don't even think it matters because legally he owns it. It's his property. However, he got it. If it's a trust fund and he got passed down, if he busted his ass, made a bunch of money and bought it, it's his property. I don't own it. And the law says that's black and white. It's like cut and dry for me. Yeah, that's where I'm at on it. That's funny one. speaker-2: That's the best way to say it. speaker-1: I don't know when I read it today. I can't believe that. I was like, we got to maybe talk about this. speaker-2: comment down speaker-0: I think it worth the cover. It's interesting. speaker-1: All right. Do you want to, do you want to dive into what you, want to hear about your bear hunt. We're kind of catching up today, by the way. I didn't outlay the podcast. If you can't tell this far in we're just, we haven't been at the table. three of us for a long time. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-2: Just talk. speaker-0: Just got back from a bear hunt with the boys so went out bear hunting with Zach and Travis botten so Travis was filming Zach was hunting Yep, older ⁓ Zach is okay. Yeah and Never met Travis. Yeah, super awesome guy very talented what definitely watching the films speaker-1: They're brothers. Which one's old? I don't think I've ever met the younger brother though. Yeah, I he is. just never met him. speaker-0: Yeah, so those guys, mean, you know, Montana Wild and everything. So I don't know how we got started on doing a bear hunt. It just came up randomly, but somehow we put a bear hunt together and the guys go bear hunting. So we thought about some of my spots, some of his spots and based on the weather and all this year was running, we were like, yeah, let's just, you know, go to some of your spots and his spots. speaker-1: His spots are your spots. Did you put that out there pretty heavy? Like, hey, why don't we go to your spot? speaker-0: No, I actually really wanted to go to my spots but like the time he just got back from New Zealand and the time he was in New Zealand would have been better to go bear hunting in my spots because of just the way the weather the weather and snowpack is this year by the time we went hunting I Knew my spots would not be good. My spots are good a certain time of year with certain snowpack and I have other spots that we could have moved to but like Hunting this time of year haven't hunted it in quite a while. So like I did some want to go like Hey, I got some spots in the state. We should go just randomly check them out. And he's like, well, I got plenty of spots and ended up where we're going. I've hunted some of those spots myself before. Yeah. So it's like, we kind of shared some intel of where we've seen bears in the past. And I was looking up, oh, he's like, I've been there before. And I'm like, he's like, that's my spot. And we were joking. I was like, let me pull up my waypoint. I was like, what's your waypoint? Say he's like 2020. And I was like, ha, 2018. I had a waypoint mark there. So it's kind of fun. like, no, no, no. speaker-1: idea. your spot now did you make him relabel it Brady's running spot now does he have to call you now speaker-0: I should have. speaker-2: Private property speaker-0: Probably should make a meerkat and call me to hunt it, but... speaker-1: I think you should throw that out there and say, since I found that earlier, now you have to call me if you ever want to go back there. speaker-0: It's true. But I've already told him it's like, whatever spots we went to, like, yeah, I'm never stepping foot on any of those because even though we did it together, some of these new areas too, we checked out. like, yeah, his spots. Just kind of way I roll. speaker-1: How many days were you gone? speaker-0: I think we bear hunted for six days, five or six. I think it was supposed to be for five, but we sent it to six. I'll get into why we extended an extra day in a second, but yeah, weather was hot. It was hot. Yeah. Way too hot. Yeah. 65, 70 during the day. Just cooker. I was hoping it might be a slight good thing because it had rained a bunch beforehand and I was hoping we get a little bit of sparse rain bears don't really move around. mean, they can move around, but like speaker-1: Like 70s. That's not a good thing. speaker-0: They're more active when nice weather. They're kind of Um, but I was hoping that sun would like, make the grass grow. What? speaker-1: than a turkey. speaker-2: you speaker-1: I mean, you want to evolve from a dinosaur? speaker-0: Yeah. And one just is very respectable. speaker-1: And one's respective. speaker-2: cool with reaping a turkey then. speaker-1: No, that's what I got from that. speaker-0: No, So yeah, was it's just hot and it made the hunt actually really challenging, which that's the. We never know what you're to get. You can't plan where you go hunting and you can't plan Mother Nature and everything. So like we had a set window to go. So like, let's just go. Zach showed up the day before and was kind of like running around doing some boots on the ground scouting. Travis and I drove where we wanted to be and went to one of my spots first. Checked it out. Didn't see a bear right away. towards the evening, drove to another spot, ⁓ saw a sow with, I believe it had two cubs way off in the distance. And ⁓ Zach kind of went into a spot and ended up being another hunter in that little area and he didn't see any bears that night. So like the next night we were like, let's go back. We're not going go back to my spot because we saw a sow and two cubs. like, it's not the time of year where bears are running or anything. So it's like no real use case to go back to that spot. Like sure, there probably could be other bears there, but let's cover country, check out new areas. So he had a spot in mine. Marissa Bear back in the day, he calls seven foot Steve. speaker-1: I saw a video of that. speaker-0: Big bear. Big bear. Long. Yeah, very long bear. And the funny thing is, like... speaker-2: like Brady. speaker-1: Yeah, it was actually. speaker-0: He hadn't been back there for like five years. I don't know why I haven't been back here in a long time to like try to find some of what Steve again. It's like, go check it out. There's this ridgeline that says a ton of this bear scat everywhere. And they probably should be bear still there. So it wasn't like one of those, like majority of hunt we had planned like in our, on my podcast talking about like potential backpack hunting, potential truck hunting ended up being just a straight up truck hunt. Like checking out new spots every single day, park camp right there that night. either go back in there the next morning or relocate around. So we get to this new spot park. It's like, I don't know, not too far in, but probably like 2000 feet of vert. had a climb for Steve lives. He went to where Steve is get up there, get set up. Um, start messing around a little bit, trying to find like, you know, places to glass. That was like kind of the hardest part when you haven't been to an area for so long, like the first day we went to, to go back like speaker-1: where Steve lives. speaker-0: Some of these like clear cuts have grown up severely since I was back there last in like 2018 like used to be big and open and now it's just like You know forested new growth. They're like shit. It's kind of suck. Can't really glass in a lot of spots. There was bears I spotted a big bear back in the day there But anyway getting to Zach spot like he hadn't been there in so long to like the waypoint He had marked for glassing now kind of changed a little bit. So we had like dial off into the timber That's like kind of what makes bear hunting interesting because like you do look for like glassing areas. You look for, you know, vegetation, kind of want to creek running in the bottom and you know, trying to find habitat. But a lot of times you're just hunting super thick forest. They're like glassing is so limited. So you can't like find these like master glassing points. A lot of times like everyone wants to glass like miles away. Like you do deer hunting, but at times you're just like hike hiking in these like little micro habitat spots. So like even though the ridge line would have been great to glass them, it could have glassed that direction. We could have glassed back the other way. like new growth trees and down trees and whatever, we're all in the way. So we had to like dive off into the mountain. And like, that's where a lot of times like you look at a map and be like, oh, there's nowhere to glass. But actually when you get there, like you can probably find places to glass, but your visibility is going be limited. we had to dive off in the timber, found a place where we can actually glass decent. Set up there, glass for a long time. It was funny. I think this was the first bear we saw Zach was like, ⁓ don't you have one of those stabilized spotting skills with you? And I was like, yeah, I got my Swarov A.T. balance. speaker-1: Tell me, are you like three days, four days in? speaker-0: This is this is full day one. speaker-1: ⁓ full day one. Okay, so you saw one bear on opening day with two cubs? speaker-0: Yeah, that was, well, that was the day, even before. was like, okay, that sounds like a pre day getting in. And then we moved to a new spot for seven foot Steve was previously. And I think this was like towards the afternoon where Zach was like, Hey, kind of borrow your stabilized spotter. I want to look through. never looked at them before. I was like, sure. Hand it over to him. He pulls up the spotter and it's angled. So it's kind of looked through, wherever he was aiming at, he pushed to stabilize the thing. It's like bear. It's like, no way. He literally just grabbed a stabilized spotter. And it's like, of those times, you know, he pulled up a binos and like you have an animal right away. It's like, are the odds? speaker-1: Cut. speaker-0: So I was kind of, that's the best best thing ever. So we started looking at that bear for a little while. Um, ended up being like a small bear and neither of us want to shoot it. It looks like it's probably a bore. I think it was a chocolate color color phase. Uh, it starts sitting there around the evening. We're like, you know, just burning time. Zach brings up his, uh, I brought my Kindle up so I could read lower the rings, of course, cause like the days are just long. speaker-2: and that happens. speaker-1: many times are you gonna read that book? No, but you've read all of them, right? speaker-0: I mean, there's so many books. I've heard of all the main ones. I'm trying to read like all the sub books right now to you. Yeah. Spin-offs, but just deeper lore. trying to learn. You never know what might be needed in life. speaker-1: All the spin-offs. I'm pretty sure I do. Never. ⁓ Unless you're on Jeopardy, maybe. speaker-2: You speaker-0: Never. speaker-2: ⁓ Maybe. speaker-0: The fun part about that though is like, obviously you're trying to glass all day and that's the hardest part is trying to say like on the glass, but like you can bring a book out bear hunting. Cause like most of the middle of the day, there's not much bear movement. And you know, evening it gets better. Morning can be decent too. Zach has an aviation book he's reading. speaker-2: Is there a same author all those books, all those Lord of the Rings? Same author or different author? speaker-0: Yeah, same author. Any other weird spin-offs or should be illegal and not allowed. Okay, got it. You guys stick to the lore. Alright. speaker-2: So you Lord of the Rings in an aviation book out there. speaker-1: at least. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: living turkeys is just... it's filthy. speaker-2: soundsome. speaker-0: So Zach's reading his aviation book, read a couple pages, start glassing again, whatever, all of a sudden like getting towards the evening, like, do we stay here? Seven foot Steve was here before. He'd only seen the one dink bear. Or should we try to go up the ridge and just hike over? And earlier in the day, Zach had like hiked behind us and hiked up the ridge and looked down into some other little spots, again, like tight canyons, lot of timber around. And that was middle of day. like, maybe we'll give it towards, I don't know what it was, give it towards like 730 in the evening. Maybe we'll just pack up all our stuff and go hike the other side and just go see where bears are. Because you said back in the day, there's a lot of bear scat on it. And we decided to do that, hiked up there. It's probably like, I don't know, 20 minutes of hiking to get over this new spot. We get set up, drop our packs, look all the way across, instantly spot a bear. Like sick, there's another bear. speaker-1: I've seen a lot of bears, I mean, you're a day and a half into it. Yeah. speaker-2: Thanks for watching. speaker-0: I've seen one, two, that's two. This is three. This one had a, yeah, we had two cubs. This is maybe like five or six bears we've seen already. And he's a, that's a bear all the way across the glass. It ended up being another sow with another cub. So it was like, first we thought it was a good bear and then like, Oh, there's the cub. That's why I was, you know, wait for a while for him to make a move. But like we're seeing bears and we're in a really tight spot, no wind at all. I think there's a little bit of cloud. So like, dude, it's going to be a really good evening. Zach drops off the ridge a little bit further. It starts going down to roll trying to split up and glass in the thick timber. And I think I worked down a little bit and started coming back up. And also I look my naked eye was like, Oh, there's a black object. Pulling my violence like bear. And I'm trying to like signal to Zach down below. got a bear Travis, like grab a rifle. I'm like, okay. I move up the ridge. I'll sign up the ridge and grab my spotting scope and look through it. Instantly. I thought like tiny bear. And finally like Zach must have saw us. And I look over to Zach and I'm like, gave him like this little, you know, one inch symbol of my fingers, like tiny bear. speaker-1: I've never seen that. Never. Yeah. speaker-2: Never, I've never seen that from... Once. With a smile. at the same time. speaker-0: I first thought it was small, but then I'm like, shit, like I reached to my binos, like I have my binos. I made a yard sale. I left my binos down where I first classing. I might grab my rifle out. I'm like, I need to go get my binos. So Travis was like, we got plenty of time. The spare was just feeding in the open. was like sub 300 yards. ⁓ So it's close. So we're trying not to like make too much movement or anything. So pretty good win cause thermals are kind of going down. I go get my binos, come back up. I look through it. I'm like, ⁓ he's actually pretty decent bear. speaker-1: East Cross Canyon. speaker-0: Yeah, just we're on one face. He's literally we're up on the upper bowl part. So he's like just almost straight across the most maybe a little elevation game. And then it kind of funny where it's like, do you want to shoot it? I'm like, well, I can't shoot it, but I kind of want you to shoot it, Zach, because like we've hunted together multiple times before. I've been my camera guy ⁓ on that hunt. We went on together to elk hunt. ⁓ We filmed another one of my elk hunts where I killed. We've done like a mule deer muzzle-litter hunt together. And I'm like, Zach, I've never. I never seen you kill, I kind like you to kill. He's like, I don't know, first day, know, like that sort of thing. Like the bear looks good. But again, bears are like, you sometimes harder to judge. And it's first day, it's early in the hunt. And then all of sudden, like, we're like, Travis, maybe you should shoot the bear. Cause you know, he has a tag as well, but like, that'd a weird storyline. Instantly when Travis like, I'll shoot it. It's actually like, well, I'm shooting it. Kind of like one of those brothers. Like his brother wants to shoot it. It's like, no, I'll shoot it. And then like, we looking at it more like, dude, he's got a really old face. Like it probably is a mature bear. And like, it might actually be bigger than we think. And it's like so close that maybe he looks. speaker-1: Spar. speaker-0: And maybe the size of just how weird because of the distance he is. So my spotting scope is like zoomed all the way out at this point. I'm like, OK, maybe it actually looks like a pretty good bear. And I'm like, Zach, totally. Shoot it. It'd be awesome for you to shoot a bear. And he's like, if I shoot this bear, it'd be sick because then you can trophy hunt the rest of the week. We can just go for a giant. It'd be sick to try to get you a giant. like, whatever. Whatever you want to do. This is also your spot. Do whatever. speaker-1: Steve though is speaker-0: It's not seven foot Steve. So at first we were wondering, like we joked obviously, like everyone sometimes jokes like he's older grass bear, know, he's shrunk a lot. Yeah, we were joking. speaker-1: Steve is just geriatric Steve. Yeah. speaker-2: Yeah, that's true. speaker-0: But the cool thing is it's so close and I'm like, you can shoot right here probably, but I was set up with the tripod and he's like, I'll shoot off my tripod with his rifle. So he set up his rifle and Zach shoots in a real hunter and everything. it's like chip shot for him. But the cool thing is we had so much time. So he mounts his rifle on the tripod, gets set up and he's like, oh, I'm going to grab my backpack. uses the rear rest. So he builds like a solid shooting platform. It's like 270 yards away. He should make a good shot, but like, let's just do the extra stuff we can do to make a perfect shot. And like I've been rolling footage. I think I have like nine minutes of footage of this bear just like going back and forth feeding. Doesn't even know we're there. And the bear turns to the right and is actually like starting to touch a shot. I'm like, when is he going to shoot? When is he going shoot? And also he takes a step and he shoots at the same time. The bear is taking a step, but it's like so close. He's like, dude, my trigger felt like for whatever reason really heavy right there. But like crushed the bear. Bear literally goes like maybe five or 10 yards. Yeah. Filming it. I was filming it through scope. Bear goes like 10 yards away and just starts rolling down the mountain. absolutely perfect. speaker-2: Great job. speaker-1: Yeah, I'm seeing speaker-0: Great video. should show you. Sorry, we're doing too many things today. But absolutely hammers that bear. Perfect shot. Good bear. Yeah. So we ended up just grabbing our stuff and it was a short walk over. Like we said, basically stay on contour and work our way over to the bear. Get over there and we're like, damn, that's a really good bear. Like we noticed, like I said, as like a gray face and just look like it had like a ⁓ good head on it, like a big pumpkin head and like kind of want bear to have. speaker-1: That's right. speaker-0: And yeah, no ground shrinkage on the bear, which usually you get some sort of ground shrinkage or you convinced that was bigger than what it was. I was like, damn, that's a really good bear. Pads are pretty good. Yeah, face is good. It's not like the longest bear ever, but just a solid representation of a good mature bear. speaker-2: monocle and a top hat kind of. speaker-1: It's a respectable bear. speaker-0: Yes, that was really fun. I I mean, you got three dudes there and you're like, yeah, this might take us an hour and a half to cut up. We had that bear fully rugged out, head removed, all the meat taken care of. And I think it was like 44 minutes. The nice thing is when you're with people too, who you know have hunted a lot, like I knew he was dialed. He was working on the back pads. I was working on the front pads. Like there's never a time when we were questioned, like, is he doing the right job? Am I, he never had to ask like. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Brady, you know what you're doing. Like, are you going to mess up a thing? And I'm like, try not to poke any holes. And all of a sudden, heard Zach at one point say like, that's going to be a fun one for the taxidermist. And I'm like, Zach, I have not poked a hole in yet. I will not do it. And just hear him like, you know, do that. Yeah, it's it work a little bit. speaker-2: the texter ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, check and see how good they are stitching things out. speaker-0: So that was day one and we're just like you speaker-1: What do you do with all the meat? So you guys are out hunting and it's hot. speaker-0: Yep, we pretty loaded coolers. Okay. So we had multiple Yeti coolers back at the truck. So preloaded them all with ice. So pack all that bear off that night. I think we got back, I don't know, one 15 in the morning, something like that. And, ⁓ no. Yeah. I'm just, I don't like eating bear unless I know it's like ground up and I can just like fully look at it. Not very comfortable yet eating bear steak. Like it's just speaker-1: You guys eat any bear while you're out there? Do you eat bear? You didn't roast any over a fire like you're prone to do? speaker-0: I guess the last time I ate bear in the field was with Omar when we rendered a bunch of bear fat and had like little bear nuggets and that was actually really good. But like eating a bear steak I'm like, eh, I'd rather have that thing be black. Like, no, it's fully cooked all the way through. speaker-1: He grinded up. He didn't burger. speaker-0: burgers are the best with beer, yeah. So riding a giant high. Yeah, it actually wasn't, not a, I wouldn't say a decent amount, but just enough to do something with to make it little bit worth it. speaker-1: Do you guys take any fat? He wasn't in great shape or he was just the man. you have any sense of like looking at the bears that you saw? Did you get any sense of like how well they'd fared? speaker-0: Bears look phenomenal. look phenomenal. Yeah, all still hide it out. Not rubbed yet. All look healthy. I mean, this one definitely had some, you know, stuff going on in space kind of grayed out. Like, I don't know if it's mites or whatever it is. Like good, bears though. but yeah, then we're like, man, it's going to be a phenomenal hunt. And I think the next day we went to a new spot. ⁓ didn't see a single bear the second day got totally scum, which is like the worst on a bear hunt. You're like, days are so long. speaker-1: Got some. speaker-0: Like that morning, obviously we didn't get out early. Like I sat message Lane and told them I killed. He's like, how's the morning hunt go? And I'm like, buddy, we just woke up. It's like eight 30 in the morning and we're not going to get out because we didn't get back so late. So we missed that morning, but I didn't see a bear second day. ⁓ third day, I think we saw some smaller bears again. ⁓ speaker-1: Seems weird, doesn't it, coming where we're from? Because like Southern Utah and Nevada, you just don't go see bears. It's not like you're going to spend a week and look at 10 bears. Ever. speaker-2: No. If you see one, you're like, holy shit, I saw a bear. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, like I remember every bear I've ever seen in Utah since I was a kid, right? But I mean, up there, it's completely different because you're actually seeing you're seeing bears are like, indecent numbers on the landscape. speaker-0: Yes, I think it's different too, but also I think it really helped to our experience when it came to bears. Because once we started working through several of Zach's areas that he wanted to check out and after that we're doing like everyone else does and I'm like, OK, well, where do we go now? We've been here, been here, been here. Hasn't been bear some spots we checked in the evening. Sometimes we crossed off in the morning. speaker-1: Do you ever go back to spots that you saw cells? speaker-0: We never hung the same place twice on this hunt and that's why we're talking about maybe we should have you know what we could have went back to where seven foot Steve was because that was the opposite Canyon like we just shot out the backside we didn't shoot up that side and there was that small bear there was there more bears but it's like Sometimes you just leave embarrassed to find bears Not quite yes, it's still early. Yeah, okay that towards end of May fair enough And we tried using some predator calls here and there but like yeah, yeah speaker-1: The should be Roman, right? Looking... Video that. speaker-0: Yeah, but we didn't call in any bears because they're not, there's no fawns dropping. speaker-1: I just told people on a predator call. ⁓ You creep. speaker-0: I was not saying it's not ethical to call them in. speaker-1: I mean, I'm not saying anything. speaker-0: I think I started hitting that. We shot a lot of rocks during the middle of the day and we're bored. So it was practicing ⁓ validation on the rifles. Did you? speaker-1: Huh, and then that was it you didn't round out find any other big bears for you. No speaker-0: Oh, so as the days went on, I'll skip towards the end. Like, obviously we found some good bears, not a lot of sheds by the way. I hope this makes it come down. I hope this makes it on the film because obviously I'm slightly being funny here, but I'm also being truthful. What I, how I believe in shed hunting. Uh, at one point I had like three or four mule deer sheds I picked up and then I was like, speaker-1: I'm a GP. speaker-2: If I know there's going to be GPS. speaker-1: Seven year old. speaker-0: around the South Asian slope. So I knew there'd be sheds there. I'm just obviously finding them when I'm walking into them. So I these sheds, started caring for a while. And all of a sudden I'm like, Travis turn the camera on. So I got something to say. I'm like, all right, I these sheds. This is the way you're supposed to do sheds. You pick them up and this is what I do to them. I just took them and just chucked them down the mountain and kept walking. speaker-2: Yeah. speaker-1: That's because they weren't big though. If they were big. speaker-0: I know we joke and said like if they had dropped on me. speaker-1: Come on now, let's not get it twisted. Those are just ones that you can live without. But if that's a big set, you're pretty. speaker-0: Am I disrespecting shed antlers by tossing them like that? Even though there's three points? No shed left behind? Is that the hashtag? speaker-1: That's what they say. I mean, I've left some sheds but I mean, I just speaker-2: Thanks. speaker-0: They were dinks. ⁓ speaker-1: There's no way if you're leaving, there's no way you're leaving a big set of sheds on the hill. speaker-2: Like how big? speaker-1: I mean like a solid four point you're not leaving the. speaker-0: It was funny time speaker-1: Five five point out shed. What's the what's the breaking point? Or is it all out sheds? Would you leave any out shed? Because they're out. speaker-0: I've checked elk sheds when I was bearing with Omar before they're just like, you know raghorn 280 type bulls speaker-1: I can see that. Is there a cut off? What if it's 300 inches? Are you packing it out? speaker-0: It depends how far I am back. I've also found bighorn sheets and left them. Have you? Yeah. speaker-1: Bear hunting. That's actually when I think I could leave. don't know what I would do if you find a bighorn bighorn. You picking it up? speaker-0: was very old. speaker-2: I mean it depends if it's intact or not. speaker-0: This was in very poor shape had been there for a long time. speaker-1: That's in good shape. That one doesn't hold the same allure to me that it does. speaker-2: If I found like a dead head Ram, I'd call it in and, ⁓ you know, get it all checked out so I could have it. speaker-1: You know it's funny, it's like shed hunting, I'll let you get back to it, like shed hunting in general, if I find a dead head, like a dead head bull, it just pisses me off. Like I'm not stoked about it. speaker-0: is a dead bowling which that sheds. speaker-1: Yeah, I'd pick up the sheds. It'd be great if they were shed. I'd way prefer I'd be way stoked if I just found the set of sheds that were laying there. If I find a dead bull, I'm always like, ugh. speaker-0: They to call it in too. speaker-1: Yeah, and then if you call it in you do get it you take it home. I do you do? just do you do? Yeah, what do you do with it? It just sits there speaker-0: That's all. speaker-2: feel about sheds. What do do with it? speaker-0: What you're saying in sheds it's like a don't hate from that by the way speaker-2: Drone Man's Easter Egg. speaker-1: It is fun. speaker-0: It's funny because... speaker-1: It's the same thing. It's two antlers on a skull versus two antlers laid on the ground that have fallen off naturally. It's still two antlers, but I feel wildly different about the two experiences. know. That's part of it. speaker-2: still alive the one is definitely dead speaker-0: That's thing. speaker-1: Yeah, that's that's part of it knowing that it's died. But it's also just like when I get those things to home, they're wildly different experiences. Like I like to pick up a set of sheds and look at them, put tinker with them, but a dead end. just like, ⁓ speaker-0: You can cut them off and now it's kind of like shit. speaker-1: Yeah, that's just not saying that looks bad too like a cutoff burr It doesn't feel right something dirty about it speaker-2: Yeah, it doesn't look right. speaker-0: Respectable shed hunter. speaker-2: I would chuck him. speaker-1: That's it. Yeah, I know. Not even if they're big. speaker-2: I've chucked a pretty good set on the Pontagon. Yeah. Yeah, like, cause I'm trying to think. When you ask that question, I'm trying to think like. speaker-1: Of deer sheds? Really? Hardest. Hardest. speaker-2: I mean was a solid set. Bigger. Yeah, probably. Maybe a little bigger than that. A long time. So I like, nobody can tell I've been this way since day one. ⁓ I mean, yeah, probably mid 80s. Just a solid, good set. Yeah. I'm like, picked him up, looked at him. speaker-1: Like one in 70? 180? How long goes it? speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: ⁓ a long time, man. speaker-2: I'm cool. I wonder what he is this year. And then I've literally started walking and I had him in my hands and we're, you know, the day hunts out there. You've never, have you ever hunted in songs? Yeah, no, it's like big, long day hunts. This was on the rifle season when I had a tag during the rifle season and like, I don't know, half mile in, I'm just like, what am I going to do with these? So I just tossed them. Maybe I'll find them alive and then just, yeah. speaker-0: just kept walking. speaker-1: Yeah, that's Yeah, round me out. speaker-0: Back to the ground you out. So I think it was a second to the last night glass in these like clear-cut areas and then of course like right at 9 p.m. yeah, it's been hot all day in this area had a lot of 9 9 p.m. All the way across his bear steps out on this logging road like six a bear Because we haven't been seen very many big bears lately and we're like looking at like mmm could be good might not be good But that was kind of cool about like I talked about like once you have bear experience and like trying to find these like spots like Zach and I were going back and forth about like our east county knowledgeable where bears should be and like Cross-referencing. Yeah, this looks like a good area Travis obviously very knowledgeable as well found this one spot and then like having the ability to Like to look back at previous videos and photos on your phone of other bear hunts So like Zach was comparing that bear we saw to some bears he seen before and killed I was obviously comparing it to bear we just recently killed So I would pull up my phone and look at the new bear that we just saw. And Zach has the, obviously I airdropped the footage to him. So we're looking at the bear, like the bear looks good at, but it's like, dude, he's like a thousand. I think it was almost at right at a mile. This bear was away. It's like a long ways away. So we're like, also in our heads, we're like, does that mean he looks a little bit smaller? Cause he's really far away and he's actually bigger than what he is. But then we're like zoomed in on it and all of sudden the bear turns and we could, we stopped the the video footage of Zach's bear before we shot it as it's horizontal and stop this footage horizontal. And you could just tell the bear looks long, looks like it has long legs, but you see its gut is kind of like arced up in the back of the bear. Sometimes these smaller bears that always like kind of arch your back when they're walking around. And you didn't really have that swagger when they're kind of walking, just like throwing their legs out back and forth. And it was like, yeah, what do want to do, Brady? It's like, obviously it's the second to last night. no saying a bear will show up in same place twice, but like we can come back here and hunt it. after him and Han about it was like, now let's just leave this bear and go try to find another bear. Like I don't need another just like average bear. They really want a big bear. So we left that area. Next night, day we come into a new spot and not seeing anything at all. We're kind of waiting until the thermals kind of move around and we're like, we want to go to this head into this Canyon, but we don't want to go up there early in the evening because thermals are all weird. The wind was kind of blowing up there. Um, but right around like eight 30, you know, it would have been, uh, 730 again that same time we went to go kill Zach's bear like let's just get off this glassy nub boogie around this little logging road there's a closed logging road so we get his crews on it got around the corner instantly get around the corner I look up on this tiny patch and there's a giant freaking bear like big bear you instantly look at you like you gotta shoot him probably six foot bear like not like giant giant to a lot of people standard but like who knows it's definitely mature and speaker-1: Sure. speaker-0: and started looking at the footage a little bit when we grabbed it quickly and like, looks like it's bigger than Zach's bear. So at least fully mature. It looks to me like a six foot bear based on everything I look at. Shooter all day, especially this is like the last night now we have to hunt. It's like we need to put a stock on this bear ASAP and we're going to run. Like we basically ran like we're on a marathon. Got him down the slogging road. At one point I was like, shit, I have my like. Basin Moreno on, I my BlackRock on, I had my atmosphere on, because I wasn't expecting to go on like a run right here without getting on the corner, glass this one face where we could shoot across, but of course it's like the furthest corner away. And at one point it's like, I want to take your atmosphere off. And I was like, no, like I don't want me stopping for that 20 seconds or a minute, whatever it could be to take off a jacket. So you have to take off your orange, put your binoculars back on, put your orange on, all that crap, put in the backpack, let's just keep running. So when we got to like 900 yards and we're like, yep, so we gotta keep going further. Like we got to get all the way up to this bear. But the problem is where this bear was at is such a tiny pocket. It's probably 80 yards wide, but pretty much an 80 yard circle. And there's timber all around it. And of course, this is a spot where there's no clear ridge line that doesn't have trees on it on both the left and the right. The right looks like you can get upset up on it, but then you have to shoot across the canyon and have all this like steep wind and probably like a 650 yard shot. So like, this is not possible during this wind. We have to get closer. So we have to keep running up the road. Got to a base of the next ridge. We'll take us on the left side of the bear. We're like, all right, now we just got to go straight up. right now I'm like regretting having all these clothes on. I'm just like drenched. Like we have to keep going. So we go open these trees, trying to find a spot we could potentially shoot from and see the bear. Finally, we started getting open. We look across to that spot where the bear was. The bear's gone. Just freaking gone. Moved into the trees. And then we're like. Where's this bear at? What's he doing? But obviously that patch was super small and it didn't look very green enough at this time of year to like hold that bear. So like the bear was probably there randomly and there's probably just green stuff all around because it was areas where there was more trees and probably got some more green ups or like, shit, what are we going to do? All we can do is keep going up, the ridge a little bit further, try to look for that bear. We tried, I think Predator calling. No, we discussed Predator calling, but we didn't Predator call, but just went up and down trying to find an opening to see him. Of course, you got to like, I don't know, 9 15 at night and can find them. That was the last night. So I'm like, we got a big bear here. Is your wife's okay if we stay another day? Oh, and they both coordinated. And luckily they have some great family at home where they're like, yeah, we can stay another day. So like, if we see this bear, we can kill him. Like again, you have to have a bear do the same thing twice. And we tried talking about and like looking back in time, like speaker-1: That was the last thing. speaker-0: haven't had a lot of occurrences where you see a bear and does the exact same thing the next day. But I was like, this area's obviously that pocket's really small, but all you gotta do is go like 500 yards to the left and you would be in another clear cut. Like a bear could easily move that far and like that area actually looked greener. So maybe it's a possibility if he's not there, he'll be somewhere else. So the next day we sat up there from like 7, 30 in the morning, all the way until dark, never saw him. speaker-1: Never did. speaker-0: Yeah, never saw a single bear in the last day. So we saw 11 bears total. I think the total was and that bear was a no show the last day and you're sitting there all day. Yeah. speaker-1: again. Let's think about it. Did you say how long? So that bear, I'm just going back to it. So I kept thinking, like you said, he saw that bear seven years ago. speaker-0: It was like five years ago, yeah, you never hunted it. speaker-1: That bear can still be alive bears live thing. Yeah, that bear could be 20. I'm cooking. speaker-0: You're talking about that could be. The cool thing is like some of those spots, you, not many people would think it's a bear spot. Cause like I said, they're tight, not many places you can glass. And if you see one, you can't shoot from right there either. Cause we're glassing like 1200 yards away. So you're to have to drop down on the timber and do that same thing of like hoping you can find openings to try to shoot up into the bear. So it's not like a classic bear spot, which that's why I think we saw a lot of bears. just trying to think outside the box of like where bears would be. Cause we hunted some areas too that were like big open burns early in the hunt. And it was just like, so hot like it was just nuked because of like I don't think these bears were coming out because they're too open. speaker-1: Did you saw 11 bears over 60 days? It's pretty good. Do you guys ever think about like, so I brought it up, like the age of a bear or like an alligator, like they can get really old, right? Yeah. Does it feel different to like think about killing an animal like a bear that might be 20 some years old or an alligator that might be 30 or 40? Does that feel differently than maybe pursuing a mule deer buck that's four and a half? speaker-2: It's super old. speaker-0: Yeah, this animal could. speaker-1: I mean, it is pretty wild to think that that animal's been on the landscape for like maybe three decades. Yeah. speaker-2: you speaker-0: think if you're in your mid-20s, you shot a bear that was older than you. How wild that would be. speaker-2: My butt speaker-1: Yeah, that is weird. ⁓ speaker-2: Buddy John that I waterfowl hunted with a lot this last year, his son Gannon shot a 21 year old goose. speaker-1: No way. speaker-0: That's insane. speaker-1: That is really why. speaker-2: Goose. Banded in the same spot he killed it. speaker-0: Wow, really. speaker-1: He's probably as old as that kid. speaker-2: Yeah, at the time. Am I even older? I'm pretty sure 21 though. speaker-1: That's really fascinating. speaker-0: How much stuff that bird has seen? How many hunters? How many decoys? ⁓ speaker-2: telling me the story they don't think and I don't think that goose has ever left the valley. It's probably just lived in that valley its entire life. There's not a lot of hunters in there you know. speaker-1: 21 years. speaker-0: I think of a bear too. It's like just doing this thing every single day. Yeah, like maybe this is a bear that just lives in that little pocket. That's like he's on Honorable. You to be lucky. Be the right day, right time in the right spot, but like. speaker-1: As I was processing that, as I was thinking about the age of an animal, it's like, should probably feel better that you would kill her. You told her. Yeah. Like if I think about a human being, it's a lot more satisfying. I guess you would say if you died at 95, then it would be if you died at 14. One's one's massively okay. The other one's tragic. Cause I'll get out. Right. speaker-0: Thank speaker-2: Bro, I'll sign right now for a solid 80 like a good 80. Yeah a good 80 right i'm not talking, you know Messed up and don't have your mind or your body. It's just like a good 80. I'll sign that right now speaker-1: Cheers. It's just funny how it feels almost flipped or different when you're talking about an animal and hunting to me. It's like I feel different about killing potentially like a 25 year old bear. That feels weird. speaker-2: That's why Brady can, you know, spot and stock those Jakes and I'll reap the god. speaker-1: Yeah, Psalms. Yeah, I love it. speaker-0: Thank Well, then picked up a turkey tag. Good. Met up my boy Dale from Barnes Bullets and he's like, you we were like, thought about maybe continuing the bear hunt. Um, but whether, whether, no, whether it was going to kind of turn, he's like, this is good turkey hunting. So I'm like, okay, I pick up a turkey tag, go out, find anything the evening. Um, such a bunch of jakes. Dale's big turkey hunter. Love turkey hunting. That's awesome. So it is kind of fun hunting with someone who has that deep a passion. You can just tell. speaker-1: Yeah, you did. speaker-2: turkeys are better. speaker-1: Dales McTurkey Hunter, Yeah, Dales. into it. speaker-0: Tattoo, know turkey like Turkey. That's it. Okay tracks. Yeah, I know feet speaker-1: Guys? I know a guy, ⁓ used to work, I don't know if he does anymore, but he used to be our UPS delivery guy. had turkey tracks tattooed. Hell yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, see ya. speaker-2: I gotta get a fan now. Turkey. Turkey Fantati. speaker-0: Only fans? speaker-1: Yeah Turkey tattoo would be pretty cool. speaker-2: Yeah, my bird tax thermostat is a pretty good one. Really? Yeah, really good one. speaker-1: I like the new one looks pretty dope. It's got the bird side. Waterfowl looks pretty neat. Tell me about, so you just call him in and kill him? speaker-2: starting the bird side. speaker-0: Yeah, so the first evening is to add some Jake's way off in the distance. Morning came, didn't have any Toms roosted on the same Jake's. We kept hearing like, okay, we're just going to go hiking. So we just hiked like literally mile and a half or two miles. And eventually it hurt. We didn't hear any Toms that morning besides for the same Jake group. Like we're not going to mess with the jaker. Maybe there's a Tom in there, it's like, speaker-1: Is he calling while you're hiking? speaker-0: We're like doing locator calls and stuff like a hood owl, you know, peacock call. There's ways to like, you know, shock gobble him. Finally, as we hiked way out, heard a Tom gobble like dude, awesome. Finally got Tom. It's worth it. Like there's actually another Turkey hunter like in there the night before, but they like left and never came back. So it's cool. Like we just kept pushing further and further and we got a bird and it was just like, you know, figuring out how to approach this bird. Like, okay, we hear him gobble. He would gobble when we would chalk gobble to him and call a little bit, try to get on him. Realized the train was too open. So we had to backtrack, get up on this big ridge, loop all the way around, came back down in on him. Like, okay, I think we're getting close. He kept gobbling on his own for a little bit. Cause we kind of got him fired up and then climbed up this little ridge. I think he called like once and instantly the bird just like responded. And he's like, dude, he's like right down the bottom. And like, sometimes it's hard in that terrain. And I've taken him for like how close you actually are. Like are you setting up too far away or are you trying to get too close and you ended up spooking him? At one point we thought we spooked him. But then he just like turned around and started walking away from us. That's we started running towards him. And then he's like, dude, he's right down the bottom. Like get set up. And I'm like, okay. So I kneeled down like on this ridge. He's like, he's going to come right up this ridge. And afterward Dale said he heard him drumming. He was full strut coming up to come up the ridge. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah. It's cool. speaker-2: So cool. speaker-0: So all a sudden it was like, dude, you're right there, you're right. And so I had swing the shotgun over the right and like took it, I kind of looked and kind of like try to take off and just shot him like right at 10 yards. Yeah. Like he just saw my movement a little bit. Cause obviously it was close and he came up the ridge and looking for hands and didn't see anything. And then just me barely moving the shotgun. ⁓ but yeah, calling him into 10 yards, no decoys on the ground, public land. speaker-1: He was trying to flee. Feels like you're ⁓ speaker-2: Please throw that up. speaker-0: It's this fun when you're like I enjoy turkey hunting and I've killed him on private, of course, but like it's this fun doing hard. Yeah, cool. Cool. Big bird thing. They think they'll get no spurs. Okay. He has a nine inch beard. No, my birds. speaker-1: There. Really? Was it a hand? Are you sure? Did you sex it? speaker-2: My bird's bigger. speaker-0: Like no snows first big speaker-2: Yeah, over an inch each. speaker-1: Really? Oh, wow. Yeah, think a lot of those turkeys where I'm from, like southern Utah, they don't have, they never have big spurs. It's like they're always kind of nubbed off. We're off. Yeah, always... Rocky country. they're all short and hardly ever super sharp, you know? speaker-0: I don't know if it's like terrain or whatever. This is cool. You know, really pretty Mariams big white fan. I love Mariams. think they're coolest. speaker-2: Pure Miriam. White Mine's got mine's whiter than majority of those what they call mudbirds up there like mine was definitely more mountain Miriam's. But it had a little bit of brown in it like just a little bit wasn't speaker-0: those. speaker-1: Did you fan it out? Both of you? did you do with it? You're doing a full body, full strut? Are you really? speaker-2: I'm full, full bird. I might not do full strut. speaker-0: Bye, let's go. speaker-1: Cool. That would be cool. Like that out. Yeah, like speaker-2: Half fanning when you lay it when you hook them on their spurs I'm gonna sound like I know what I'm talking about only done this once now You hang them on the on the tree limb from their spurs and the way they're fan like kind of falls forward It's like you have three quarters of the way fanned out, but not full. I'm gonna I think I'm gonna do I'm gonna like make it look like he's hanging off ⁓ speaker-0: And their wings are way out. treatment. Yeah. speaker-1: I took my nephew Jalen when he was like 12 my brother my dad and his mama told him at the time like oh if you get a turkey because she didn't think you'd get one like I'll do a full body mount we ended up killing one that day called it called it in and he shot it and full body full strut it's like perched up on this shit and full strut yeah it does look pretty cool actually they take up a lot of space though because man they're big they're big speaker-2: Full stretch. couldn't believe how big they were. think my bird was 23 pounds. Really? speaker-1: Okay, that's cool. Do you bring bring all the meat home? speaker-2: Yeah. speaker-0: The whole meat home, the obviously breast, legs. speaker-1: You and the missus doing Thanksgiving dinner, you're saving. speaker-0: Yeah, I'm gonna make some ⁓ turkey nuggets speaker-1: Yeah, I ran into a buddy and his little kids the other day. I was out running the dog. They were out there in the morning on Sunday. And it's funny because he pulled up to the gate. It's these fields and he had permission to hunt some private fields between our prop between the property anyway, he uh, he pulls up and I lean out and I was like, hey, how's it going and just like instantaneously out of both back windows just like his little kids just start popping out like their little heads, you know, and they're just like hey and the one the one little kid goes we're trying to get turkey nuggets. I was like, oh, that's awesome speaker-2: It's built for kids. I'm so excited to take my kids for it. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. What's your objective? Then we'll we'll be done because you got to go. You got places to be. You got a game. You got to go on a hockey game tonight. Yeah, I'm envious. That would be fun. speaker-0: built for Yeah, fun trip. speaker-2: I mean I'm taking, taking Turtle. sure. don't be too envious. That's why I gotta leave so early, he wants to go for the warm-ups. ⁓ He wants to see the whole thing and I'm like dude... speaker-1: I mean. The hockey game in Vegas is a full show. You got a DJ and the whole nine. speaker-2: Yeah, drops like 652 I think and he wants to watch the one. So anyways, I'm gonna need to be there like 540 Yeah whole thing speaker-0: Thank speaker-1: Yeah, it's a full red. You're going to someplace next week. What's your expectations? Kill a big one? You now? speaker-2: thrown together? How did I not know about this? you had this on the books? speaker-0: Couple months ago. Yeah. With the six hour. speaker-2: Yeah. This is new to me. Good for you. Must be nice to be Brady. All I want to do is get out and Turkey hunt in Utah on their general season. So I want to do that. Yeah. His daughter. Yeah. It's got past Hunter safety that day. Got her Hunter safety. My Heath's daughter. So Libby passed Hunter safety. It had his had her little cord. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: See you. ⁓ I saw that. Yeah, she did. speaker-2: drove the ACE hardware, got a tag, drove up the mountain, killed the tricky. That's a photo too. This is awesome. She's so excited. speaker-1: It's gorgeous. Big green open meadows, pine trees, incredible landscape. looked awesome. speaker-2: So I mean how cool like finish your hunter safety and just immediate like this is what I talked about giving kids a good Experiences for sure. She's hooked now. She got a hunter safety. I didn't have to wait got a tag. She saw the whole thing It's awesome. All I want All I want to do is go turkey hunting again with my kid, but I have Playoff baseball. I play off like football Hockey What do you call it? speaker-1: Yeah. No, that's cool. speaker-0: That is an epic photo. speaker-1: This is my life. speaker-2: Not like a, what do call it? It's just like a camp thing. A clinic, hockey clinic. School, work, everything. It's like all I want to do is just go up there for day and a half with them. speaker-0: That's all I want to do. speaker-1: This is my life every weekend. Some kids doing something somewhere. Yeah, I know. I get it. speaker-0: crazy but speaker-2: We need a swap. I came up with this over the weekend, by the way, because I do need to go, but just to this out there, we need to swap nationally. I'm going to get it on the federal voting block. Switch mother's day and father's day dates. speaker-0: Okay. Okay. speaker-1: Oh, yeah, I love that you could default as a father day you take your Yeah, I do like that. It's perfect. That's a good idea. I love that speaker-0: It's turkey honey. speaker-2: Perfect. Is that not a great idea? Cause I was trying to get my wife to go for Mother's Day and she was like, there's no chance. like, well, if this was Father's Day, would force everybody to switch it. I'm putting it on the federal ballot. speaker-0: Yeah, because it's what you want to do. Yeah. Do it. Okay. speaker-2: I don't know how we're going to do this, but I need, I need to start. need to start selling this idea. We're going to switch the dates. Turkey, hun just reaping turkeys on fathers. speaker-1: I love this idea. But. speaker-0: No speaker-2: anyway, cool. speaker-0: So yeah, expectations for next week. Excited? speaker-1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing how you do. I'm saving all my days till the fall. And we're just going to cut a wide swath. speaker-0: You too. I'm burning them all. speaker-1: Well good deal, we'll catch up with folks then.