Dan Pountney: Welcome to the Bad Boss on Blast Podcast. Jo: The show where very funny people publicly relive their work trauma, tell us about their scariest Sundays, and lay the verbal smack down on the worst boss they've ever worked for. Dan Pountney: It's like an exit interview crossed with WWE. Jo: Have you ever had a bad boss? If yes, come on in. The water is lovely. If no, then have you looked in a fucking mirror 'cause it's probably you. Dan Pountney: I'm done. Jo: And I'm Joe. This is a therapy session. Dan Pountney: This is an exorcism. Between us, we've worked for people who pronounced Estee Lauder as Este Lauda. Jo: One guy who was basically Tony Soprano if you bought him from the middle of Lidl. Dan Pountney: and one absolute melt who criticised my punctuation on Slack. It's called Slack for fuck's sake. Jo: What's that? Dan Pountney: It's what I'm picking up for the both of us, Joe. Jo: Thank God someone is. Dan Pountney: The stories told on this show are personal recollections shared for entertainment purposes. Names, dates, locations, job titles, and other identifying details have been changed or omitted. Any resemblance to specific identifiable individuals not intended. Jo: Basically, if you're a Karen, just fuck off now. So Dan, have you had a boss? Dan Pountney: Yeah, I've I've had a few. I've ⁓ probably not as many as you though. 'Cause you work in T V, right? Jo: Hey! I thought you were calling me some sort of slut then. yes I do. I am freelance, so I have a new boss every ⁓ every few months. ⁓ also am a boss. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Wha hang on. You didn't tell me this before. Jo: Well, I like to keep it quiet. I like to keep a managerial flex quiet. Dan Pountney: So how many people are you responsible for? Jo: right now, ⁓ sounds very mature when I talk about that, but I I mean I am ⁓ meant to be mature. At the moment I run a team of six. the biggest team ever run was ⁓ twenty three people. Dan Pountney: Fuck off. Twenty three people. And what were you doing? Like were you doing all of their like their time off requests and their like expenses? Jo: I know. It started as Yeah, it started off as a team well So it Freelard's T V world's very different. A time off request is you get a WhatsApp and say, Babes, I want to get my hair done, and I'm like, Appreciate you. Okay. I wish it was like that. No, we it's it's less formal, but it was we it started off as a team of twelve people, and then we realised actually to cast the first series of Naked Attraction, we'd probably need to double our casting team size. So there we are. Yeah. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Right. Slay Queen. Yeah. ⁓ what so you needed t twenty three people to look at Willie's all day. And vulvas. Jo: And Fannies. Yeah. Yeah, we did. It was wonderful. It was absolutely wonderful. Dan Pountney: Yeah. I like how I gave them the scientific name because I'm such a feminist. Jo: What did I say? Have blacked out already. Did I? Did I say fannies? Dan Pountney: Fannies you said fannies, I said vulvas. Just let the record show. I am a feminist. Girl dad. Jo: I hate the word Ha I am a girl mum and I hate the word vulva. I just think it sounds like an Essex man talking about his car. Get in the back of my vulva Not tonight, darling. Right, so er ⁓ we are here. We are conducting I'd like to call it a Salem Bitch Dan Pountney: Ooh I like that. That's good. Yeah. Let's dunk them. See if they float. I don't think they will. Jo: Thank you very much. Yeah. Let's dump them. I think they'll die. ⁓ We're not going to anyone on this though. We're just going to In a really lovely, fun, warm and way. ⁓ Smash them in the face. Dan Pountney: No. Rich: like that we've both gone denim shirt as well, ⁓ As is... ⁓ Dan Pountney: Yeah, well cool, it? It's cool to wear a denim shirt. I've not gone baseball cap though. Jo: It is. Rich: It is cool. It is cool. No, that's just because need a haircut. That's the main reason. Dan Pountney: ⁓ are you still going for the mullets? Rich: Yeah, but like a cowards mullet. it's just sort of, it's a little bit longer at the back, but you can't really tell. But I know it's there. Yeah, exactly. A little, a small party at the back, a gathering at the back. Yeah. There's a social occasion at the back. Jo: A little mod a little nod to a mullet. Dan Pountney: L little bit of a party at the back. Okay, Cather I caverate the back. Jo: Yeah. Social w after work drink. Where you get Yeah, yeah, you're home for two. Rich: Yeah, yeah, just one. We'll have one because most people are driving, still technically. Jo: We've got a guest on this evening, haven't we? He is he is exciting. I'm excited. Dan Pountney: very excited. Rich Spaulding is a brilliant comedian, writer and unwitting kitten breeder. His brilliant satirical routine on billionaires has been watched more than four million times on his Instagram page alone and has earned him reposts from the likes of the TUC, massive kudos from socialist organisations, and a cheeky follow from Gary Stevenson. Tax wealth, not work. Rich previously co-hosted Our Dads Died, which is available wherever you get your podcasts. And he took his most ambitious hour so far, Gather Your Skeletons, to Edinburgh in twenty twenty four, before recording it as a special in late twenty twenty five. Rich, welcome. Rich: Thank you very much. What a lovely welcome that was. I should say that the TUC didn't actually credit me when they shared that video, which I thought was very unsocialist of them. Of all the people, of all the groups that need to be prompted to share credit, the bloody TUC. Jo: Absolutely. Is that who we're talking about tonight? Are we gonna put the T U C on blog? Rich: We're here to put the TUC on blast. At times like this, what do we need unions for? Get rid of them. No, I do love the TUC, just to make that clear. Jo: Wow, wow. If you can't beat them, join ⁓ We are not a pro reform podcaster. Let's get our politics out there straight away. Dan Pountney: They'd like that. Rich: Yeah, we're neither pro-reform, but we are anti-unions, confusingly. Yeah, and that is a valid political position. Jo: I hate everyone. Yeah. Thank you very much. Vote for me. Dan Pountney: So we have to take the BBC's editorial position, which is that we have to give reform a little bit of of coverage, which actually means all of our coverage. Rich: Yeah, well, Nigel Farage is coming on later. He's in the background in my house. He's always here just in case there's a podcast he can appear on. Jo: Yeah. Yeah. Dan Pountney: Thought it was, yeah. Jo: Yeah, it's just there drinking a pint in his fleece. Rich: recording a load of cameos loudly. Dan Pountney: Ha ha ha. Jo: Rich, I really want to ask you, ⁓ what was it like to go viral and get f over four million views? if you're used to that, is your phone just kind of dinging constantly? Like Is it all positive comments? Did you ever get bored of it? Did you ever think, ⁓ guys, like just chill out or was exciting or how did it how'd it go? Rich: I would say it was really exciting for maybe a month I think. For a month it was really nice. Every time I checked my phone someone would be saying... Jo: Yeah. Rich: you're good at the thing that you do. And that was a really lovely thing. Occasionally they'd be saying, like, get a shirt that fits or you look weird and stuff like that. But mostly it was positive. And then because I don't really do much on social media, then it became, I turned it into sort of quite a crushing weight to carry where I sort of felt, I've been given this audience and I don't know what to do with them. And so I sort of didn't do anything with them. Jo: No ⁓ Dan Pountney: ⁓ Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: So that was Rich Spaulding, brilliant comedian, great at parking cars, ⁓ not great at folding blouses as as we know. ⁓ and at double O cunt where he belongs, which ⁓ is on blast. So gonna give him a score now, Joe. and just to explain the scoring convention ⁓ Joe and I are both. Jo: Mm. Rich: and then you see the numbers sort of climb and climb and climb and then gradually reach a bit and then they start to fall and fall and fall. So I now find social media quite an anxiety ridden place where I go on and I'm like, could have done something here and you wasted it. Jo: ⁓ yeah. Like you're chasing the dragon, but the dragon is a bit too difficult. 'Cause at least with drugs you can just buy them. Rich: Why, yeah. Well, I just, didn't want to I accidentally hit the dragon with my car and everyone went, ⁓ you're the dragon chaser. And I was like, I don't know how to chase dragons. I've never, I never tried to do this. So I've let the dragon go. Dan Pountney: able to award a maximum of eight points each. Now the reason for that should be plain to see. I'm a working class urchin, ⁓ and Joe is ⁓ what are you, Joe? Jo: Ha ha Yeah. Just a man saying shit about something. Dan Pountney: Took him to the vet. Jo: So what you see, Dan? Rich: Yeah, exactly. Just a guy saying stuff about stuff. ⁓ But it is very nice when it happens in the middle of it. It is lovely. It's a good boost to the ego. You can see why social media is quite an addictive thing. then, yeah, then it comes up with all the downsides. Dan Pountney: Joe's a woman. ⁓ so we have a maximum of eight points each to dole out. the scoring's actually at 30. Jo: Ha ha ha. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Dan Pountney: So Joe, Rich Spaulding, your score, please, out of eight. Jo: eight. And Dan, the man Dan Pountney: I'm gonna score eight. Jo: What are the chances? what a lovely guest, Anne. Didn't we have a nice time? Dan Pountney: I had a lovely time. Hmm. Right, lovely. So jump into our first feature, which ⁓ called f ⁓ is that a jingle? We've got a jingle for it. Jo: Whatever did Yeah, da da da Dan Pountney: Have we got a jingle here? Let's have a look. ⁓ No, sorry. Jo: Yeah. Da da da da da. I I don't know why this isn't catching on. Yeah. Rich: Sorry, she's done the jingle three times now, so... Dan Pountney: All right, apologies. Yeah. I was just looking in my list of sound effects, ⁓ see if there was a jingle in there. Jo: No. Why honestly I don't know what Rich: Do you have sound effects? Dan Pountney: Yeah, look, ⁓ That was a good one. Rich: ⁓ that's genuinely good. Not to psych off your jingle, Jo, but that was genuinely good. Wow. Jo: Whoa what? My gosh. Dan Pountney: ⁓ I missed too early. I was too early on the too early on the snare. Jo: Honestly, when when we got the dramatic noise my nipples went hard. Rich: You Jo: Silence. ⁓ Wow, congratulations. Rich: The mine finally went soft. It might have been hard throughout but at last. Thank you very much. Dan Pountney: That's my washing machine. Jo: ⁓ Rich: It's my washing machine as well. Jess and I were talking about that the other day. We thought we might have that as our first dance at our wedding. Dan Pountney: Then awesome. Jo: I'm so I'm sad it stopped early. Dan Pountney: ⁓ sorry, I can I can start it again. Rich: It is a long one though, isn't it? Jo: Thank you very much. ⁓ This has been a pleasure. I've been Joe. Who have you Dan? A Dan, one of many in the world. Dan the man, stick it to the Dan. Yeah. Wait for the ⁓ that felt good. Now I know. ⁓ how are your nipples now, Rich? ⁓ Dan Pountney: Cool. Thank you very much. Woo. I've been a Dan. I've been a Dan tonight. Yeah. Multifaceted Dan. Just want a trap beat behind that, don't you? Rich: Oh, it's the long one. The big finish. Dan Pountney: We're gonna clip this. Doo doo doo doo doo. ⁓ perfection. Rich: And that's great because sometimes they don't do that bit. Sometimes it doesn't play the final bit and you're like, ⁓ teased me. One hard, one soft, weirdly. Yeah. Jo: ⁓ Hi. Good. Wow. I love that. Dan Pountney: Mike could cut glass. Rich: I'll update you throughout the podcast, I'll let you know. Yeah, absolutely. Jo: We need a nipple report. Right. So you are here to talk. Yes, to put your bad bosses on blast. We're not just here to chat about nipples and washing machines. ⁓ we want to hear all about your past pain. In a fun way. ⁓ Rich: Yes. Jo: we want more points. ⁓ points mean prizes. Yeah. We want you know, ⁓ th there'll be some sort of like mumbo jumbo corporate speak, but make us better people by following us on social media because followers means that good. ⁓ Ha ha money. it? Does it ⁓ does it? No, you just get the little buzz of the notification. And I would like it. Yeah, I I think we Dan Pountney: Yeah, we do. Rich: Absolutely, of course, of course. So what was the name of this round? ⁓ yeah, go on then. Dan Pountney: ⁓ So the f the first feature first job, worst job, durst job. Now why durst job I hear you ask? We don't Jo: We don't know. Dan Pountney: W money. Money. Dollar bills. I don't know. Mr Beast, he's rich. Jo: do know why Go Richard's expectations of you know £10 in a car park. But if you do like follow us on Instagram, then I get the little like love heart notification, and Dan does as well, and then we get a little buzz in our day, and that's really nice, and you make us feel good. let's be honest, Dan came up with Dirst Job and I was like, the only thing I can think of is Fred Durst. And I was right. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Right on the money, as always. No, it makes perfect sense. 'Cause it goes like this. what I'd like to say is ⁓ don't listen Joe. Don't just don't just don't just ⁓ maybe maybe follow us if you like, but don't no worries if not. Follow us. ⁓ Give us stars wherever you get your podcasts. We need to climb the algorithm. We need we need we need to socially climb. Jo: Still doesn't make any sense. Okay. ⁓ Yeah, Dan Pountney: It's just one of those days. Jo: Well, you don't want to wake up. Dan Pountney: Everything is fucked. Jo: Yeah. The manosphere Everybody sucks. Dan Pountney: You don't really know why. Jo: But you wanna justify ripping someone's head off. so we're gonna first job, we're gonna talk worst job, and then this dirt job is the job where you don't know why, but you just want to rip someone's head off. So Rich, shall we go into your first ever job then, please? What was your first ever job that you had? Dan Pountney: We need you to help us to socially climb. We want more points, don't we, Joe? I mean eight each. That's that's a piss take. You know, just because I had free school dinners and Joe has a Volva. Little Rich. Little Dickie Spaulding. Rich: The first official first ever getting paid to do something was when I was about 10 I got paid to help park cars in a field. Jo: Please. Rich: at some kind of fair. can't remember what it was for. But my job was to sort of stand there and direct the cars where to park. And honestly, best job I've ever had. I loved it. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. And I got to be sort of like, I was quite cheeky with all the guests. I was doing little jokes and stuff. I loved it. One of the best days of my life. It was really sunny as well. Had a wonderful time. So it didn't prepare me for the work at all. And I think I got paid £10 for that. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: Wow. So i when you first said it I did think that you you drove the cars, but did you? And and if you it's this is a judgment free zone. If you did drive the cars when you were turned, that's fine. Rich: You can neither confirm nor, I couldn't have reached the pedals to be honest, at the age of 10. No, my job was simply, like the guys in airports with the lollipops, I was doing that but with cars. And they didn't need me. I don't think they needed me there, but I really threw my heart into that job. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: With with chopper chops. Jo: You say it was the best day of your life, so it was one day. Does that count as a job? it's vaguely reflects classes system ⁓ in which we live and the fucked up society, ⁓ where we're repressed by patriarchal values set up years and years years ago that are still ruining us to this day. Give us some points on social media please. It would be nice though if you followed us. See I'll go back to my beta women. Look, here we are. We're yin and yan. We're yin and yan dan. Yin and yan dan. Rich: It was one day. Yeah, that's why I'm not sure. did technically get paid for it. More of a gig. Well, in that case, my first... Well, yeah, true. First time was ever PAYE would have been... I think I was 18 and I worked at Bon Marché in Kidderminster. Is it still going, Bon Marché? Dan Pountney: Sounds a gig. Jo: More than most comedy gigs. Dan Pountney: Long may it continue. Fa validate us please. St yeah, so stop being subservient. Jo: Let's get sexy. Yeah. Oui. ⁓ oui, oui, très bien. ⁓ clothes shop for the ⁓ average basic lady. Rich: Mm-hmm for I was told the elderly and the large on the larger side is sort of the target market Yeah, having worked there I would say the the clientele was largely of a pensionable age I would say largely large ⁓ lovely women lovely women all of them and ⁓ Dan Pountney: Yeah. Jo: That's what I thought, but I didn't know if that was just the patterns that I assumed it was for kind of Large. Large and and Yeah. Big old ladies. But they were they were living their best life, weren't they? Dan Pountney: Large. Largely large. Mm. Rich: They were very nice. I was the only man working there. I ⁓ think they hired me because they thought, well, know, would be quite... The ladies all like it, ⁓ a guy around. They didn't. They didn't like it. They didn't seem to enjoy my presence in the shop very much. Jo: May maybe that's because you were signalling like you were in the airport still. There's way to the joggers. Rich: was just guiding them in. ⁓ No, was a decent but ⁓ I wasn't cowed for On the first day, I remember a lady came in and she said, ⁓ where are the blouses? And I went, ⁓ let me check. I had to go to my manager and go, what's a blouse? And then she explained and I said, ⁓ they're over here. And I never learned how to use the inventory system. So we'd sometimes get phone calls. Jo: ⁓ Rich: You'd have like a phone behind the till and I'd answer it and they'd go, do you have this in stock? Because it was the past and I'd have to type it into the inventory system and see if it was in stock. But I didn't know how to use it. So I would just go, ⁓ let me check and then wait for 30 seconds and then go, nope, we haven't got it. Sorry, bye. Jo: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Bon Marche, do you remember the ⁓ top shean? Rich: too. Vaguely. I vaguely remember her... should I say her name? ⁓ Jo: Why am I saying I get top top? We just call her No, think of a name that's not her name. all right. Thanks, Tracy. Hi Tracy. Dan Pountney: Mm. Rich: a name that's not her name, It's called Tracy. ⁓ She was, ⁓ I think, largely disappointed in my work at Bon Marché. She would often take me to one side and say, we need you to give them more, charm them, be cheeky, have a laugh. But I wasn't 10-year-old Rich anymore. Jo: Really? Dan Pountney: Yeah. Jo: Mm. Learn more applied. Rich: She'd probably heard about my work parking those cars. She was like, that's the guy we want to bring back. And I was like, I don't have it in me anymore, Trace. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Jo: do you think that you peaked at the age of ten and that's it? Like nothing could ever match that one day of work and therefore everything was a disappointment afterwards when it was like Brenda walking in and not a Volvo. Rich: Yeah, almost certainly. Exactly. I've been chasing that high. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Jo: got reminded I worked at Gap as one of my first jobs, and the store would shut at 7 pm, which was late for a clothes shop in ⁓ centre of Cambridge. ⁓ And my we would chat afterwards, and my boss used to say it all the time as a catchphrase if you're a talking, you're not folding. So we had to fold the clothes in silence after the shop was shut. If you're a talking, you're not folding. Rich: Mm-hmm. Jo: ⁓ Okay. Disclaimer Disclaimer Dan Pountney: It's a wrap, baby. Jo: Disclaimer Disclaimer. Dan Pountney: Ha ha. That was even better. Jo: Disclaimer Disclaimer Disclaimer Dan Pountney: Yeah, I'll just chop it in, they'll fine. Okay, stop. Jo: What? Like no I can and I have ADHD and dyspraxia. And yet I can fold and talk, kind of. To be honest, now I think about it, she might have a point. Rich: That's not true. You can do both. Dan Pountney: That I'm actually gonna keep that in the edit, I think. Mm-hmm. Rich: Okay Did your folding improve the less you spoke? Jo: Yeah, to be honest, actually now, like I was folding my washing earlier and I was I I had to pause to talk. So fuck, wow, God, this has been years. This is this is a real revelation for me right now. She was right. Rich: Yeah, she was right all along. In Bonmasha they gave us this one little device that you would use to fold clothes. Yeah, was a board and it just made folding things so much harder. never worked out how to... They would sort of do it and then you'd do it and you just had a t-shirt wrapped around a board of wood and caught in all the hinges and stuff. Jo: Like a board. Dan Pountney: ⁓ yeah. Okay. ⁓ Jo: Yeah. Yes. As an adult, only in the last, I'd say, literally year have I unlearnt that terrible technique and and relearnt to fold clothes. And it it fucked me for life because I've always been folding clothes as if I had a board, a secret board, but I didn't. So they're just kind of like sad little foreskins of like t shirts that always come out of the drawer just a bit like soppy and sad and wrinkled. And only in the past year I've like, Do you know what? Fuck you, gap. Fuck you. Rich: Yeah. Yeah. Jo: Other stores are available to be fucked. I had unlearn that trauma. Rich: You Dan Pountney: So we we've just learned that Jo ⁓ had a gap in her C V. Jo: Whee God, that's great. My nipples have gone hard again. They get hard for puns. Right, so we've we've we've we've established that you you peaked early in life. So yeah. First job, nothing compares to that one day. Bon Marche, your first official POYU job. Rich: Very nice, very nice. Dan Pountney: Thank you. Rich: Yeah. Jo: what's worst Rich: Well I mean as with a lot of these jobs part of the reason they were bad was due to my attitude. Jo: so Rich, we want to hear Rich: Yes. Jo: job. Now obviously none of us to get sued because we can't be asked with the paperwork. ⁓ So ⁓ if we could allude to somewhere that will in no way ⁓ get us sued in any that'd be wonderful. Rich: My worst job would have been, ⁓ it was at a large ⁓ for exotic animals and more regular animals as well. ⁓ It was ⁓ a large sanctuary for fauna Jo: job. Mm-hmm. Dan Pountney: Can you be less specific, maybe fauna? Jo: ⁓ no. And now can you make it sound more sexy? Rich: It was a large sanctuary for erotic animals. Jo: Perfect. So Rich you worked at a large sanctuary for erotic animals somewhere in Central Europe in the last hundred years. Dan Pountney: Baltics. Rich: I did, Somewhere in Central Europe. Which, it makes it sound so much more glamorous than it was. ⁓ I worked there, everyone worked there when they were teenagers, but then I didn't, but then finished university, couldn't get a job, and ended up 23 and working at the exotic, erotic animal exhibition somewhere in Central Europe. And it was... Jo: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Rich: Yeah, one of the bleaker periods of my life, my boss, I've talked about it on stage, but ⁓ my boss was a child, which was... Jo: Right. An actual car, was it someone from the cars? That well you hated him because he was actually taking your job with car parking. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Rich: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Stealing your thunder. Rich: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They moved on so much. They were all PAYE by this point. No, it was a 16 year old, I think, 16 or 17. And I was 23. And she was my boss. And she was she was good at her job. She was good at her job. And she was strict. there was one of my jobs was working in the gift shop. And at the end of the day, you had to count up all the money that you'd taken that day from the gift shop. And then you had to carry it to her. Jo: Wow. ⁓ I know women. Dan Pountney: Right. Rich: I had put it on her desk. She had a desk and she was 16. And then she would then count all of the money that I counted to make sure that I hadn't counted it wrong. She, I had two degrees at this point and she hadn't done her GCSEs. No. And she would, she would then count it to make sure that I hadn't counted it wrong. Jo: Wow, this this feels okay. Dan Pountney: And you had a degree at this stage, right? And A levels. GCSC. Jo: She didn't even have a period, mate, and I can say that and you two can't, but I will. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Rich: And the worst thing was that almost every day I had counted it wrong. And so I was sitting there where she recounted it and was like, no. And one day she said, she finished and she was like really specific. She went, you're eight P short. And I said, ⁓ I'm robbing the place. and she didn't enjoy that. And then there was sort of a bit where she then called her boss in who was probably like 18. I don't know. Jo: ⁓ no Mm. Dan Pountney: ⁓ yeah. Jo: Mm-hmm. No. Rich: And then they had to be like, no, I'm not robbing the place AP at a time. I've I've miscounted again. Sorry. so that was fairly humiliating. Also, I was dressed as a witch that whole time, which I've got to mention at the start, cause it was Halloween. I started working there in like at the start of October. And so I had to dress as a witch every day, which was, ⁓ had to wear a cloak, like a really thin sort of black bin bag type cloak. Jo: Describe it. I want a visual. Go on, give me what did you wear? Had to Mm-hmm. Rich: I had to have, well I had like a spider, you had to your own makeup, had to draw a spider on one cheek and a cobweb on the other cheek. Jo: ⁓ god. Were you any good at doing your own makeup in those days? Rich: I got good, got good fast. And then the rest of the face was green. I had to do green and then the cobwebs. And then had to wear like a really cheap flimsy witch's hat that never stayed on. So they made you put like elastic band around your head to keep it on. And I used to always go to the gift shop, take it off and then they'd come and check that you were still wearing it. You get told off if you weren't wearing it anymore. Dan Pountney: Did you Did they expect you to be in character? Rich: They never quite went that far. Jo: the image of a twenty three year old boy, let's face it, you're a boy, sat there in this kind of cheap sad witch costume as Ebenezer Scrooge, who's sixteen years old, counts out the money coin by coin, and then you're sure eight P. Because I was about to defend her and be like, Well, to be honest, I do think that actually they do have to count the money. But the fact that you're sat there dressed as a witch to someone six years your junior Dan Pountney: Okay. Rich: Yeah. Jo: As she counts out her pennies like Ebony's a Scrooge in a sad erotic animal park somewhere in Central Europe. It's quite bleak, isn't it? How long's it? Rich: Yeah. was pretty bleak. Yeah, it was. was a pretty... I didn't last long. I was there from October until January and then I didn't get my contract renewed. I think in part because one day I I went on a night out in Kidderminster. ⁓ Jo: What? Dan Pountney: Call the stealing. Rich: the day before a shift and I got very drunk and I thought, well, I can't, I can't go into work tomorrow, but I've got to let them know. So I left an answer phone message on the official answer phone at 4 a.m. saying, I'm not feeling very well and so don't think I'll able to come in tomorrow morning. ⁓ Like, drunk. Jo: ⁓ my god, red flag. Rich: and then they didn't renew the contract. Jo: That actually reminds me of another time at Gap. So I eventually left Gap. and yes, I am mentioning Gap, but it was so long ago and I don't really care. It was such a long like, come for me, Gap, come for me. ⁓ but I was like, I can't do this job anymore because I need to talk whilst I fold. And I to leave Gap and I just couldn't wear there anymore. And I was like, I I you know, I did the adult thing that you do when you're eighteen and I just didn't turn up for work. I just didn't turn up, I didn't you I didn't call, I didn't tell anyone. I was like, you know, yeah. Well I was like, I forgot I I couldn't do it. Anyway, so they rang me on the phone, on the landline, obviously, because we only had landlines, and they were like, Hey Jo, you're not in work and I was like, yeah, sorry, I'm ⁓ I'm at my ⁓ my uncle's house in Peterborough, which is miles away and they were like, okay. Rich: Yeah, you ghosted them. Jo: And I was like, I'm really sorry I can't come in today. And they were like, okay, cool. But they were really pissed off. And then I hung up the phone. And then as I hung up the phone, I was like, they've rung me on the landline, not in Peterborough. It's the landline. And the moment I had the realization, the phone just went ring, ring, ring, ring. And it just rang and rang and rang. Because they obviously realized at that point they'd rung me on my landline. And they just kept ringing. And then for years. Dan Pountney: no. Rich: ⁓ shit. Jo: Absolutely is. It's in central Cambridge on the Market Square. I I couldn't go anywhere near it, so I had to like like do massive s I mean, I don't think I've really been back. I don't think I've I've now been to that part of town in in many, many years. Rich: ⁓ And you can't, just in case someone is still working there. So what are they going to do? They'll be like, Jo, where have you been? You're so late. You're like 20 years late for your shift. The whole place has gone to disarray without you. Dan Pountney: Tiny unlikely. ⁓ Jo: Look at all these blouses and these folding. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Jo: But this is me owning it. This is me owning my story and you know, I'm coming out. ⁓ You were right about the talking and the folding, ⁓ but ultimately I wasn't there for your corporate ethos. I was there to flirt and get 30 quid a shift. So, you know. Y you employ you know, it's obvious when you employed me, it's not it's not my fault. You hired me. Rich: If the people of Gap Cambridge are listening, is there anything you'd like to say to them? fair. Noble pursuits. Jo: Dust. Do we do the dust, the Fred Durst? the job that you wanna do that makes you wanna rip your fucking head off, or someone else's. Rich: Hmm. Well in that case, I worked, I mean this is another one that was only one day. ⁓ I've never held one down. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Exactly that. Jo: Bloody hell, have you ever had a job? Who is this then? We just like got some of them from the job centre. We're not paying you for this. I'm so sorry, Rich. This is not we're not giving you ten pounds. We don't have ten pounds between us. This is not employment. Okay, fine, carry on. Dan Pountney: Ha ha. Rich: I'm counting this as my job now. But I still think this is the best day of my life. I did a number of shifts. I worked at a few factories. I finished university, couldn't get a job. I worked at a bin bag factory for, I think, two weeks. And then I got... Yeah. Jo: Like go. Dan Pountney: Making witchcapes. Jo: ⁓ who's that though? Rich: And I got what I thought was an upgrade. The bin bag factory was terrible. The whole point of my job was there was a machine that would like, they'd feed in the whole, the bin bags had been made, but they'd feed them in the machine, would roll them into rolls. But they obviously couldn't work out yet how to put that roll into a box. And so my job was I had a box and I would take them off the machine, put four into a box, it and put it into something that would laminate the box. Jo: Wanna hear everything. Yeah. Rich: ⁓ And that was it. And you weren't allowed to like listen to headphones or anything because of the machinery and there were alarms and stuff. So you couldn't talk to anyone because there no one around. So it was just eight hours of thinking and doing the same thing over and over again. I did it for two weeks and it drove me insane. ⁓ Jo: Yeah. Maybe all yeah. No, no. like torture, that's like solitary confinement though. Like I think that officially like if if they did that in Guantanamo, people would be like, That's Guantanamo, that's terrible. You did that for minimum wage. Rich: Yeah, I got paid. I got paid. And it was the best day of my life. No, it was pretty bleak, but... Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: Was it Dan Pountney: And I imagine that and I imagine that ⁓ having that sort of existence, ⁓ anybody looking at you in the wrong way, you know, or or or or saying the wrong thing would have just it ⁓ it have been so much worse, right? It would have been ⁓ everything have been under a microphone. Rich: Yeah, but that one, this actually, wasn't my derst job. That was in the buildup to the derst job. So I did that job for two weeks. And ⁓ I think I entered a state of sort of mindfulness during that. used to listen to, I'd pick an album and try and see how far through the album I could listen in my head. And then I got what I thought was an upgrade. I went to work at a gravy factory. Jo: No Rich: Which I thought was more glamorous than the bin bags and I only I did one shift there and it was it was a 10 hour shift from 6 a.m. Till what would that be? What's 10 hours 4 p.m. I guess Yeah, can't add to 10 And that one did because that job was taking gravy granules in a bag and put them into a special commemorative tin Jo: Legend. Yeah. Maybe yeah. I was gonna say this is why you're only getting one day of shifts 'cause you can't do the math maybe. But I I can't either. Rich: and then putting the lid on and then putting it a conveyor belt. But this one, I could talk to people and that made it worse. I decided actually I missed the days when I could just listen to imaginary albums in my head. I did that shift one day and then I went to the foreman and I said, I don't think I'm going to come back tomorrow. And he said, I don't blame you, get out where you can. Jo: What? So like amazing that you've you've got this kind of sense of of mind and and pride that you quit jobs very, very easily. But all I'm hearing is is someone who does jobs for a couple of days or a couple of shifts or have you have you ever had a proper job? Rich: You Yeah. Sadly, yes. Yeah. It makes me long for the days of just the odd shift here and there. But yeah, sadly, I did then have to move out my parents' ⁓ and pay ⁓ rent and ⁓ bills. And then it makes you much less willing to quit your job, doesn't when you of need Jo: ⁓ Right there. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: From bags to gravy. ⁓ Rich: Yeah, and I have a huge amount of respect for the people who do those jobs because I do think that they are like, they've reached a level of sort of mental, like zen, because you couldn't do it without having a real level of inner peace, I think, or just then voting reform at the end of the day to sort of take out all your frustration. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Well yeah, of course. Jo: No, it is incredible to be to spend that many hours with yourself for a day and nothing else going on, that is fucking hard. Or yeah. Rich: Mmm. Dan Pountney: Do you do Do you think Rich if you'd have stayed there much longer, you could have picked out albums that you hadn't listened to yet and and play those start to finish? Jo: Ha ha Rich: could have maybe written an album in my head, like just composed it and then I'd have got home after let's say 10 years on the job. One day I'd have been like, I'm gonna write this album, written it down, absolute dog shit, I'd assume. Just nonsense. Yeah, it's a big bin bag Jo: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Dan Pountney: Yeah, it would it would all just been about bin bags, wouldn't it? Every song. Track one, duty. ⁓ Rich: Hahaha Yeah, it would have been pretty bleak listing, I imagine. Jo: I don't know. I think this Christmas number one in it. Because to be fair, what is Christmas about? Bin bags and gravy. Rich: You ⁓ hello, yeah. Yeah, wow. Okay, we're onto something. Let me get that job back. me 10 years and I'll hit you with something big. But yeah, that was my do-it-yourself job that did, that almost drove me insane. Dan Pountney: You need a lot of bin bags. ⁓ yeah, hello wow. Yeah. Jo: Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Just one day. Well we've seen one day, one shift. That's it. Dan Pountney: Mm-hmm. Jo: Yeah, for eight hours. ⁓ Dan Pountney: next we are gonna get on to the nomination. So this ⁓ is so far we talked about your jobs, ⁓ but I mean we've spoken a little bit about bosses, but we what we want ⁓ is want worst ever boss. ⁓ The boss made you ⁓ question everything, the boss that maybe they gaslit rich, maybe they ⁓ maybe they stalked you. I ⁓ you know, just Jo: No. Rich: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Have a think and then lay it on us, socket to us. Who is your worst boss? Obviously, please don't give them their real government name. ⁓ if you could give them Is that an American thing, your government name? I've Jo: The government then. Rich: Yeah, I guess you've still got an official, the name that the government know you by. And then you've got your secret name that you never tell the government. Mine is Shadow Rasputin. That's what they call me. Dan Pountney: Ha ha ha. Jo: What's my government name? ⁓ no, sorry. I'm Dan Pountney: See what what is your government name? Is it Jo or is it Joanna or is it Joanna? ⁓ fuck's sake. So secret name. Yeah, give me Jo: I'm not telling you, that's a secret. Between me and HMRR Rich: Yeah, and what's the last three digits on the back of your card? What's your mother's maiden name? Jo: Again. Dan Pountney: So so Rich, if you could nominate your worst ever boss, try to shroud them in in some layer of secrecy or or you know, just just ⁓ some of the details, please, because ⁓ really like our houses. Yeah. And Rich: ⁓ Yeah. Okay. Yeah, fair. Well... am I to ⁓ count comedy promoters ⁓ as bosses? ⁓ Okay. Well, in that case, ⁓ I've got a nominee and I actually even to change his name. ⁓ I can. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Yes. Of course. Jo: Yes, hundred percent. Rich: because we should. His real name is Alexander Voodoo. Have you ever come across him? I don't know if he's still active. I think he is. He runs ⁓ the secret comedy Dan Pountney: Please do. Jo: Well tell me first and then and then change his name. it. I bugged ⁓ him. you ever read book Shantaram? Rich: Have you found him? Yeah. I think so. Jo: ⁓ God, it was this book about this man who escaped prison in Australia and then lived in like was a white saviour in an Indian slum and everyone was like, ⁓ my god, I love it, he's so amazing and then actually you Google him and he's got like this sad little ponytail and it turns out he kind of like made up a lot of the book just to ⁓ make him sound better and he's just this nasty narcissist. But every I just wanted make noise. Rich: ⁓ wow. Dan Pountney: I'm sorry. Can can can we just stop slagging off men with ponytails, please? Jo: Ha ha ha ha. No, but there's like sad pony you've got a good ponytail and there's like clinging on to a little rat at the end where everything else is going bald. Rich: No. You got the bun. Yeah, that's the worst of it. When you're sort trying to compensate in the back for what you lack in the front. And as a man with a mullet, listen, listen, okay? I knew that was coming as soon as I started saying it. Really set myself up there. I would like to say that's not what I'm doing. I am simply following trends like a sheep, actually. That's what I'm doing. Dan Pountney: ⁓ yeah, I don't have that yet. That's coming. Jo: Hang on, Rich, didn't we just do Dan Pountney: Isn't that what you're doing with your mullets? Jo: Rich has a sad small mullet to overcompensate. Dan Pountney: You couldn't put it back in the jar, could you? Couldn't put the gravy back in the jar. Jo: Absolutely. But a little subtle sheep, little nod. Little nod to the wolf. Yeah. Perfect. Rich: Yeah, yeah. A cowardly little sheep who's not brave enough to go the whole hog. The whole lamb. ⁓ Yeah, so my worst boss, the boss I'm putting on blast, we've got to him a different name, haven't we? Not his government name, though I'm fairly sure the name I know him by is not his government name. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Mm. With the whole lamb. Jo: Mm-hmm. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: Not his government name, no. What would his MI five code name be? Rich: ⁓ Double O-Cunt. that it? Yeah, Double O-Cunt. ⁓ So he was slash is, I'm not sure if he's still active. He was a comedy promoter ⁓ in a seaside town in the UK. I'm not saying which one or where. Somewhere in central Europe. He worked on the coast ⁓ and he would run gigs in this little venue. Jo: Perfect. We'll go with that. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. In Central Europe. Rich: And I worked with him literally once. was me and a friend were doing a preview a few years ago of a show and we were doing just like half an hour each. And so we set up this venue with him and we sold a few tickets and we had a lovely time. seemed very nice. But when I first promoted it, I got a message from another comedian that I know saying, don't work for 00 Cunt because he won't pay you. Jo: Mm-hmm. Rich: And I was like, yeah, I've heard this about a few people. I'll make my own judgment. We've booked it now, so I'm going to go and do it. Went and did it, came back, sent him the invoice. And it wasn't much money. It was like 100 quid or something. ⁓ And then like a month later, I followed up. I was like, any chance of seeing that money anytime soon? ⁓ And he didn't reply. And so I waited another month and messaged him again. And he didn't reply. And then I sort of forgot about it for a while because it was, you know. a lot of money. But then a few months had gone by and I was like, I think I would quite like to get paid for that because we lost money on taking the train to said seaside town in central Europe. And so after about five or six months, I messaged him a few times. I was like, I really think you've been pretty out of order. You could at least respond. If you don't have the money or there's an issue, that's fine. Just let me know. He didn't reply. And so then I went on to one of the Facebook comedy groups thinking someone here will know him. I'd only spoken to him by messenger. So I put a post on there saying, does anyone know double O cunt? And do you, if you have his number, please DM me because I need to get in touch with him. He hasn't paid an invoice from a while ago. And within five minutes I get a phone call. through Facebook Messenger, which I didn't know was the thing. It's never happened to me before or my phone started ringing and it was the messenger icon came up and I was like, how is this happening? So I answered and he screamed at me. Like I've never been spoken to like this. He was like screaming top of his lungs down the phone. You piece of shit. You fucking piece of s*** I was gonna pay you. I've been trying to pay you. You haven't sent me your bank details. I had sent him my bank details many times. Dan Pountney: Ha ha. Jo: ⁓ that's where. No, don't like that. What's Dan Pountney: ⁓ no. Jo: ⁓ Buddy Rose. What? Rich: And he went on at me for a while and he was like, and now you've ruined my reputation in said seaside town. And I was sort of like, mate, from what I've heard, your reputation is pretty ruined as it is. And maybe it's because you don't pay people for six months. And he was like, I've been trying to get in touch with you and you won't. And I was like, you're calling me through messenger. Scroll up, scroll up and see the many. Yeah, act like a human being. Jo: Please have God. Yeah. Get yourself a real phone. Dan Pountney: Yeah, it's have a landline, mate. No. Rich: and scroll up to see the many messages I've sent you. And he was like, you've had my number the whole time, how have we organised this if you didn't have my number? And I was like, scroll up buddy. It was all through Facebook Messenger. And then he was like, I'll pay you right now on the basis that you take that post down immediately. And I was like, fine, okay, yeah. mean, yeah, that's what it should have been. But I was like, whatever, just, just. Dan Pountney: Ha ha ha. Jo: Is that you did work for him, is what it should be. Rich: He paid it immediately so obviously had no issue having my bank details or paying the money. But then, annoyingly, I just couldn't work out how to take the post down. And I just, I couldn't, I kept, I was going on, was trying everything I could, but the post mysteriously just stayed up. And then, then he messaged me again and was like, you little liar, I thought you were a man of your word. You fucking, and he starts again. And then I just blocked him. And fortunately have not heard from him since. Dan Pountney: Mm. Jo: ⁓ my. You shouldn't have to. ⁓ I see I feel about that. Dan Pountney: That's my thing. Rich: But I am now the person that whenever someone posts saying, I'm doing this gig for so-and-so, I now message them and say, don't do it. Don't do it. Jo: Don't and now I will. I just think wha how telling of of his ego and the fact that like he's reacting like that and he's not gone, ⁓ sorry mate, my dog died and ⁓ I've been busy. ⁓ You know ⁓ do what we'd do. Say at your uncle's in Peterborough. ⁓ But like the fact that he rings you first of all on Facebook Messenger, fucking red flag of a psychopath. Dan Pountney: Wow. Rich: I don't time for six months. a long protracted death. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Rich: Yeah. Jo: And then has it go at you when you just weren't paid, like, ⁓ Rich: Yeah, it was insane. And you know, when something is so out there that you just start laughing. I was just, I was in the kitchen of my house, just being like, I'm so annoyed that my girlfriend's not here to hear this. Cause I also, at the time I lived with my girlfriend and our friend who was the person that we'd done the preview together. So she was the other person involved. And so I was like, ⁓ I so wish she was here to hear this happening. Cause this is the most insane phone call I've ever had. Jo: Yes. Yeah. Dan Pountney: Okay. Jo: ⁓ yeah. Dan Pountney: Until now, of course. Rich: I've never, I've never had anyone speak to me like that. It was incredible. Jo: There is something though like when you like th you know you kind of know someone's mental and they kind of do little mental things all the time, but then when they actually go like catastrophically mental, you're like, ⁓ it's almost like a relief because you're like, I knew you were this mental and now you've kind of got the proof that y you're not just kind of taking things like a bit well, this is ⁓ me speaking, like, Am I am I being oversensitive here? Am I and then all of a sudden they're like Rich: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Mm. Rich: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jo: ⁓ you're a blah blah blah and you're like, ⁓ no, you're the double O cunt. It's ⁓ it's good. But w if he's doing that to you, like what is he doing to other people, like off messenger? Dan Pountney: Yeah. ⁓ Rich: ⁓ God knows. I mean, yeah. Dan Pountney: I mean, do you know? do you have any ⁓ tea to spill? Rich: Well, I think it's mostly the same. He just doesn't pay people. And he's very aggressive and weird. ⁓ And he likes to sort of really hold grudges and stuff. Nothing more sinister than that, which in the world of comedy actually means he's one of the good guys. ⁓ But ⁓ yeah, he's an oddball. But at least he does have the decency, like you were saying, to wear how mental he is just quite openly. Dan Pountney: Right. Right, okay. Okay. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Rich: It's not a secret. You meet him once and you're that guy's mad. Jo: Yeah. Yeah. At least we all know that he's mad and and no more. And I am going to search all of my all of the internet now to find out just how bad he is. That'd be my hyper focus for this evening. ⁓ I'm gonna get on the girls only ⁓ groups in comedy. That's where the real The real fun is. ⁓ they're great, guys, honestly. Yeah. Rich: Yeah, yeah, it's a deep rabbit hole, if I remember rightly. ⁓ yeah, I'm sure they'll have plenty. About 00Cunt, whose name we shall not reveal. Dan Pountney: Mm. The time has arrived. ⁓ learned all about him, double O cunt. It's time to take that bad boss, ⁓ Spaulding, and put him on blast. So Rich: Right. Jo: Bam, bam, boom. Rich: Another jingle. Dan Pountney: How so what we're gonna do is we're we're gonna roast him. but we're gonna do it in the style of a pro wrestling promo. ⁓ What is a promo, I hear you ask, the uninitiated. A wrestling promo is the bit where a wrestler grabs the microphone and tells his opponent at volume how much he hates him ⁓ and what's he what he's gonna do about Jo: Yeah. I don't know. Dan Pountney: ⁓ it's a monologue designed to make you care about the fight before the fight happens. It's heightened and theatrical, and it often ends with a catchphrase. A Shakespearean soliloquy in trunks. So would you kindly ⁓ disrobe ⁓ down to your trunks? ⁓ ⁓ just to help you calibrate, ⁓ we do have two examples. We have the high watermark, which is a ⁓ considered good promo. and then ⁓ Jo: Ha ha. Dan Pountney: just to ⁓ just to make sure that we we've got the full range. ⁓ we've got one that's considered very bad as well. ⁓ just aim for aim for the middle if you can. ⁓ know we we're not expecting ⁓ but ⁓ yeah have you'll have sixty seconds to put double o cunt ⁓ firmly on blast. So let's hear those two promos first. Rich: Okay. Yeah. Dan Pountney: That's hard times. So that so that was considered a a famously good one. Rich: Wow. was powerful though. I didn't expect the textile workers to be proud. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Very powerful, very breathless. ⁓ Absolutely. And and I think ⁓ there was a premonition for the future there. sorry daddy, a computer took your job. AI, it's coming for Yeah. Rich: Yeah. We're all expected to any second now. The computer's taking your job, Daddy. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Absolutely. ⁓ and and me doing that voice by the way, that that boy ther, that's not racist because he's actually a big fat white man. Rich: ⁓ okay, thank God. Dan Pountney: Okay, Rich, so that was ⁓ a famously good wrestling promo. ⁓ we're now gonna hear a famously bad one. Rich: Yeah. terrifying. Jo: And that's a good one, is it? ⁓ right, I was gonna say. I'm listening, I swear. Dan Pountney: No, that's the bad one. Yeah. Yeah, th the the good one was the good the good one was about a ⁓ a computer taking your job. ⁓ Rich: If that was the high watermark. Jo: ⁓ I went for a wee. I didn't listen. I'm so sorry. I'm committed. Rich: Yeah, and the textile workers of this country. I think I may bring the textile workers of this country into my ⁓ blast. Dan Pountney: Great, I look forward to it. So, ⁓ without further ado, I'm gonna put sixty seconds on the clock, Jo: Ha Dan Pountney: Whenever you're ready, put that bad boss on blast. Double O cunt, here we go. Rich: Okay listen here double o cunt. It's been a long time you've not heard from me in probably three years since I blocked you on Facebook messenger but I'm back. I mean I'm on I'm in your inbox and I'm mad as hell because listen here you absolute son of a gun. You owed me a hundred pounds you owed me fifty pounds and my friend also fifty pounds for six months. £50 to me, that's five days of work in a field directing traffic. And yet you denied that to me. And when I came to you and I wanted my money that was rightfully mine, you screamed at me, which is very mean, through Facebook Messenger, which nobody had ever done before or since. That's not even a function, just the pure fury of your anger. Jo: Ha ha ha. Rich: tore a hole through Facebook Messenger and into my ear and I'm not going to stand for it So double o cunt, mission accomplished. You piece of shit. ponytail looks terrible, I hate you. Jo: Yeah. Amazing. Rich: God, 60 seconds flies by when you're that mad. I didn't even bring up the textile workers of the country, but they are on my side. I'd just like to also add that the textile workers of this country are fucking fuming with you, actually, mate. So I've been talking to them. Yeah, and the TUC, they're very annoyed. They actually would be quite angry about this. Jo: Yeah. Dan Pountney: It does and he didn't even get any textile workers. ⁓ can we have an addendum? Jo: ⁓ And the grain workers and the bin bag binnerers. C E C yeah. And Bon Marche is shutting their doors. ⁓ amazing. we've come to the end of this wonderful podcast. thank you so much for it. This has been wonderful. Thank you. ⁓ good. We aim to please. ⁓ because our bosses haven't. ⁓ so yeah, thank so, so, so much. ⁓ Dan, have you got any final thoughts? Rich: Thank you for having me. It's been very fun. Very cathartic. Dan Pountney: Mm-hmm. Rich: Yeah. Thank Dan Pountney: I think we should probably ask Rich if he's got anything to plug. it's probably a good time to do that. Rich: ⁓ yeah, you can follow me on Instagram, which as I've mentioned, I don't really like using and fills me with massive anxiety. ⁓ But you can alleviate that anxiety by following me. ⁓ And also I have got my first hour coming out soon. I don't know exactly when, but some point in May or early June, I believe. Jo: ⁓ yeah. Yes. And and to confirm that is an hour of of comedy or is it an album played in your head Rich: It is, Well, ⁓ it's hour, it's technically an hour and eight of ⁓ And it will be released for free on the internet at some point ⁓ soon. ⁓ And yeah, so ⁓ watch that. That'd be nice. something nice about it. Dan described it in the intro as my most ambitious hour yet. Also my first one. So, I mean, technically true, but. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Well work. Jo: Wow. Single Dan Pountney: Brilliant. Jo: We were. Yeah. Dan Pountney: No, I thought you'd done an hour at the ⁓ parking cars, you? Rich: ⁓ yeah, was my most... Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. Dan Pountney: That was your second most ambitious hour. Jo: Yeah. And will it top the parking cars? Like, you know, 'cause as we know, that is the pinnacle of your life. Will this Rich: Well, weirdly the show is sort of about the best days of your life and so it does tie in but I didn't mention the car parking because I've forgotten about it. Yeah, it would have been too real. it's also quite a lot of it is about work so that that would tie in nicely to this Jo: No. Too emotional to to br to bring up that broken dreams. what is your Instagram Rich: It's rich spaulding 11 which shows the heights to which I've soared. Just the 11th. Jo: Well, it it does sound like an Apollo mission. Dan Pountney: Is that are there ten others? Rich: I don't know, think, you know when you sign up it just prompts you. It gave me rich walling 11 and I was like, okay, yeah, I'll take that. Fine. Jo: I wouldn't know. There's only one Jo Sumner. There's only one Jo Sumner. Dan Pountney: ⁓ Rich: But yes, that's all from me. Thanks very much for having me. It's been very fun. Jo: Thank you so much. That's on from us. Dan Pountney: ⁓ Jo: if you want to hear more, ⁓ go to our ⁓ Dan Pountney: It's at Bad Boss on Blast. Jo: There'll be clips, there'll be opportunities to send in your own listener gripes We just don't know yet. Dan Pountney: Yeah. Jo: Right. Thank you very much. Bye, thank you. ⁓ Dan Pountney: Bye everybody.