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hot topics, and much, much more. Hey and Happy New Year.
Welcome to Episode 64 Reflect and Project.
These are going to be our gems of 2023.
As always, I am PJ. And I'm Gareth.
I am so happy to see you. Happy New Year, Gareth.
Happy New Year. It's been a small break across
Christmas. Yep.
But we're back and I'm looking forward to, I guess, another
another year's worth of talking about ball games.
I mean, that's what we do best, right?
We are going to meet up this year, which is yes, we haven't
told anybody about, but it's going to happen.
It's going to happen. About two and a half 2 1/2
months away. Yeah, yes, yes.
It is less than three months away that you and I will be face
to face in the same room. Oh my gosh.
Cajun Cajun Con. I love it.
Cajun Con in Southampton.
That's right. You heard it here.
I will be in England the first two weeks of April.
If you didn't invite DM me Instagram.
Gareth is point man on what we are calling Cajun Con.
I believe that's the weekend of April the 6th I believe.
Going to check now, it's the. Saturday, April 6th I think is
the target date for. It is the 6th.
There you go guys. So y'all reach.
Out in area, more details will drop on the socials this week.
And this is open to everyone in on the Isle of the UK he wants
to fly in and then the conic, you know you want to fly from
the US. Fly in, Just come in.
Do it. It'll be great.
Do it'll be great. I'm trying to get some of our
friends from Eastern Europe to join us, but you know, we'll see
how that goes. So Hampton's easy to get to.
Heathrow, Bristol, Gatwick, Southampton's got an airport,
We've got ferries from the Isle of Wight.
You got trains? Trains.
You got it all. So, so the structure of this
episode, like I said, is our gems of 2023.
So Gareth and I are going to talk about We're both each going
to talk about our favorite game from 2023, our favorite episode
of our podcast from 2023, and our favorite moment from 2023,
which is very that's a wide open.
But so it's game, episode, and moment.
Those are our gems of 2023. But before we begin, Oh no.
Oh no. What's happened?
I was listening to episode 24 of our podcast.
I feels like it's a year ago. Did I make some?
It was so. What sweeping statements did we
make about 2023? That you're now going to pick
on. It was January 10th, 2023, and
we were. Looking we.
Were looking forward and so at first you said you're not going
to make any predictions because you don't know what 23/20/23 has
in store. However, though you had three
games that you were looking forward to.
Oh, John, then, yeah. So the first one was Oros.
Yes, I could. Yeah.
Did you enjoy that? Did you get, did you get it?
Yes, I got it. And we played it a lot to
player. OK.
Your second one was Beast, which I know you got.
Yeah. Yeah, that's arrived and we had
the privilege of the expansion arrive constant early.
And then your third game was Bantam West.
Which also arrived, but we haven't got to the table I need.
I need like 4 solid players. So what I'm hearing is Cajun Con
is a great opportunity for Bantam W to hit the table.
I think the challenge of Cajun Con is going to be what I mean
when you visit what games are we going to play?
Because time is fixed, right? And the obsession needs to be on
that list. It does.
It does need to be on the list. And whatever else we've talked
about, I mean, Twilight Imperium, that's 12 hours gone
already. We are not playing Twilight
Imperial, OK? And then banter W is another
three. So it's it's But before that,
it's interesting that you brought up Twilight Imperium,
because it leads me to my last point and my final question I
wanted to ask you. In episode 24, you talked about
Twilight Imperium and you said that you were going to play
Twilight Imperium four times in 2023.
Did you do that? No, hang my head in shame.
I'm just going to check. I think you played three.
No, no, definitely not that. I think we've played it once.
No, I know you played it twice in 2023, right?
Did we? It was, I think so.
I believe so. I'm looking.
I'm looking for my stats.
I'm pretty sure you put me under.
It you've put me under pressure. You know, that's why you and I
are such good friends, because I pressure you.
Constantly just just pad while we open up the board game Geek
stats. I mean board game stats app or
you don't own that stats app? We're, you know, it's
interesting. We're talking about getting
that. Yes, we played it twice.
OK, so the three games that you were looking forward to
receiving this year in 2020 or last year in 2023, you you've
got them all. If you play two of them, your
commitment to play Twilight Imperium 4 times, you only made
it 2 so. I've got to say, it's a miracle.
It's a miracle that two happened.
Yeah. But I will talk about one of
those games. You will.
So you also talked about how 20
you and you also projected 2023 was going to be the year of
expansions. You talked a lot of in fact, you
listed a ton of expansions. Did I?
You did I I tried to write them all down.
There was an expansion to Hidden Legends.
Oh yeah, that's good. That's arrived.
The third expansion to canvas. That's all right.
That's been played a lot. These are good.
Yep.
And then the expansion to Wonderland War.
Hasn't arrived. Hasn't OK, so check.
Shipping shipping at the moment though.
We, as you recall, you backed Wonderland's War.
It was the first game you ever painted, I think in 2022 we did
an episode about that. So when the announcement for the
expansion came out, my wife and I backed Wonderland's War and
the expansion. We have them.
They arrived the day before Christmas Eve.
We have not opened the box yet. It's it's, it's sitting on the
table. It's like, ah, there's so many
things to get to and and we got to paint them first.
So you know you. You do need to.
Paint them. You got to paint them first.
Just just rewinding. We need to play Nemesis when
you're here as well and maybe you should bring the Christmas
hats just be because. I could put that in a pocket.
That's so. Easy.
Easy to bring. That is easy, yes.
Yeah. OK, we'll do that.
Anyway, yeah, I I mean that was a good segment.
I have no idea what I said. I yeah.
I talked about two games I was looking forward to in 2023, was
distilled from Patterson games, which I did receive and played.
A lot mega fan. And then Frost Haven, which did
arrive. Now how far did you get through?
So far we are. So last weekend we played We're
now at 32% complete, OK, And we unlocked a new character, so.
Based on that pace, we'll start another year and a half.
Oh yeah. Probably 2.
Probably so we can. We can reflect on the reflection
of your progress this time next year when you look back and say
that, so 32%, January 24, let's see what percent you are January
2525. 25 S Also a quick quick recap of just some stats.
We have 234 games in our collection.
We played 95.5% of our entire collection last year, right?
Yep. So what I realized after keeping
track over the past three years, if if 95% of my collection is
played, I'm happy. I call that a success.
I'm on 21, so I feel successful. Yeah, well, I mean, you're just
successful every day, so you know.
I definitely It's our it was our worst game game playing year for
quite a few years. Yeah, you had a busy.
Mostly the back end of the year, October, November.
You had a busy. You had a busy year to be.
Usually those months are our spike because it gets darker,
but I I commend you for your 95% or whatever it was a thank.
You thanks. We did better the year before.
So we ticked down slightly. I think we did 96 point
something in 22, we did 95 in 23.
So we'll see. Hopefully we can keep it up in
the New year. So I'm.
Sure you will. That's a recap of our opening of
2023, and now we're going to get to our gems, right?
I love this gems. This is brilliant, right?
This was great. I mean, so inspirational.
We figured this out like 5 minutes before we recorded.
To be genius it. Peaks the.
Entire year. So who's going to doing the
first game? You're going to go first, you're
you're going to go first your favorite game that you played in
2023? It's a tough one.
Weirdly, the games that I said I'm looking forward to aren't in
this list. So notable highlights.
We have thoroughly enjoyed the back end of the airplane.
Ticket to Ride. I haven't chose the legacy.
I haven't chosen that one. We finished it today.
Don't tell me because we haven't finished it yet, but if anyone's
thinking about we're on the fence or on the track about that
one, go and grab it. We've played quite a lot of
small games this year, so like Town 66, Project L sneaks in.
But the one game that we played the most out of a more
heavyweight was Darwin's Journey.
I love that game. I have taught it to many people.
It's I think you've now you've now received your copy or you've
got got it for Christmas. And we've played it.
We've played it once so far. So.
So it's a mixture of what? Worker placement, action
selection, trying to build out your crew.
It's just a mixture of different mechanics, two sides of the
board. You start with the simple
version, but if I'm honest, I think the full game is on the
other side with the Firelands Firelands expansion map.
It's just delicious and. So good.
Yeah, just so many things to consider.
You've got the classic worker placement of I needed to go
there, but somebody else has got there before you.
Trying to explore the islands, discover the different species,
get them to the museum. Absolutely fantastic.
And there's been my game of the year in terms of what I have
enjoyed. So I'm going to, I'm going to
catch you on this at the end of so January of 25.
I'm be like, so Darwin's journey, yeah.
Still be there. It's it's.
We've even talked about playing it this Friday.
Just gone. But the city of Silver has
sneaked in to Kutnahora. If that's pronounced right now,
I'm making another prediction. I'm hoping that's one of my
games of the year for 25. Let's write that down.
I don't know, but we play three times in a week and that is
pretty rare for a medium sized game, so.
So do me a favour, do me a favour real quick.
I want you on air right now to pitch to my wife Why we need to
get Kunihora. Oh, it it is the smoothest.
The mechanics are beautifully, beautifully meshed together.
The production is wonderful. It's got these two decks of
cards with little sliders which some people have found
challenging. So guess what?
Czech Games Republic bought an app that is just as good.
I prefer the maths and adding it up.
The the boards and the components have this opulent
lush gold and silver colour palette and it plays really well
at 2-3 and we've now played it at 4:00 so we played it, that's
good, 234 player counts and I love it and every time I played
it I've learned a little bit more.
So if you haven't seen that game, it came out at S and
that's one of my favorite games for this year.
Let's see what I say January 25. So we were in Cincinnati.
OH, we went to the Capstone Games store.
Yeah, they had. They had a copy along with the
metal coins. I got the coins.
So we thought about getting it, but we were like, you know,
let's try and get more capstone games, games, capstone game
store. So we did that, but then we were
at our local game store here in Springfield.
My wife had it. She goes, do you want it?
And I'm like do you or you know, she doesn't know.
She doesn't really heard. Like she hears me talk about it.
So it's like, you know now when she listens to episode Kutna
Pura Pura if you. If you don't collect it,
obviously when you visit, we can add that to the games list.
We better start compiling a game selection, Yeah, separately.
So I should probably get to my game.
Yeah, What was your game of the year?
So we just talked about it. It was it's consistent from
January, episode 24 was distilled.
As you said, I'm a big fan. Still yet to play this game?
It is so good, Craig needs to teach.
It teach me, yeah. Every time we see it, we're like
we play it, then we go now let's not play it because it just
annoys PJ. Yeah, it does.
It does. It does annoy me.
So tell us, tell us about distilled.
Distilled is great. It is a resource management
market. There's a market phase and then
there's a distilling phase. The distilling phase is what
makes this game shine above all other games.
So you get to the market and you there are some ingredients that
are free, some you have to pay for, some are upgrades to
distillery, whatnot. But when you get to the distill
phase, you take all the ingredients out of your pantry
and you add in alcohol cards and then you shuffle them, and this
represents the actual process of distilling the alcohol.
So you're shuffling. You then take the bottom card
and the top card because you cannot.
Part of the distilling process, you can't use because it's the
dregs at the bottom of the the container.
And then the top you skim off so you don't use the top and the
bottom of the actual physical liquid when you're distilling.
So you remove. Yeah, this is amazing, clever.
It's really clever. And then you take the rest, and
based on those ingredients, it determines whether or not you
have made rum or whiskey or vodka or whatever it is you're
trying to to distill. Some of them require aging.
They require bottles or barrels, wood barrels, steel barrels.
So you have to distill them. And the longer they distill,
they get more flavor cards, which equate to more victory
points when you finally go to sell them later in the game.
I mean, I'm not a big whiskey fan.
I enjoy whiskey. I'm I'm not much of A, I'm not
much of A consumer of alcohol in general.
But this game is so beautiful. It is so magnificent.
And then Patterson's going to do another game next year that I'm
really looking forward to. So you know, that's distilled.
You need to play this game as soon as possible.
Could you make into some very terrible drinking game that
every time some if you had a rack of bottles like vodkas and
every time somebody makes a drink you have to do a shop?
You could do that. In fact, there's a little set
collection. You can collect bottles.
So after you sell them your unique bottles, you keep off to
the side. And the more you have, the more
victory points at the end of the game.
Because that's one of the things you can purchase in the market
is better barrels, better bottles, better ingredients,
better pizza. Papa John's?
No, sorry. You could basically, if he's
somehow get Craig and Becky, we can you can teach me that
occasion and I'll bring the alcohol there.
You go then. Because someone's driving home.
I feel like, I feel like the one thing when you're playing
distilled, you should be drinking whiskey.
And if I if, if I can, if I can, I will.
I'm usually the driver, so I'm not.
You haven't got a car in the UK? Says no I don't.
So I just don't drink whiskey. But that's a whole story from my
child. From my childhood, my teenage No
worries, no worries. So that's distilled is my game.
So those are our games, right? So that's Darwin's journey and
distilled 2023. Those are our games.
Now we're going to move on to our favorite episode.
Episode Episode first. You're going to go first.
So we go through quite a few episodes.
In 2023, there were some notable guests.
Obviously, we can't forget Craig get into games.
Don't forget he's just gone live with his first podcasts.
Get the games on air. Episode one went live yesterday
or over the weekend, whatever the days is.
Check that out. We had Adam from Table dot
vibes. He had some fun with those guys
talking about Halloween and Christmas.
We had Carl with Kelp, is that right?
Yes, Carl Kelp. That's right.
Carl 2K. And then, but my my favorite
episode was having Dan Halligan from Obsession on the show
talking about the Kickstarter that went live however many
moons ago that was Now feels like forever.
I know, but it was only three months.
It was. Only three months it was, which
was the character's expansion. If you haven't listened, it is
one of the most popular episodes we've done.
Huge response to it. It was episode 57 and obsession
with obsession for the Board Game, an interview with Dan
Halligan. At that point there was a couple
of secrets. Not secrets, but early reveals
he gave us, which was an absolute privilege to hear
about. He's just an awesome guy, just
shared the passion of obsession with us.
And has anyone's been listening to his show for the last 50-60
episodes? Knows that we've talked about
this game no end. So having Dan on the show was an
absolute highlight of the year. And one day maybe I'll get to
pay Obsession with Dan. But for now, yeah, it's just a
dream. So you can play with him.
On BG online. Yeah, I don't know.
It's not the same. Thing not the same.
And we need to catch him before he moves to Utah, which is, you
know, that's a long way to the West from where we are.
So because he's because he's getting ready to move, he's
moving, yeah. It's right isn't he's moving to
Utah? Pretty soon, so, OK, He was kind
enough to let us know that, so yeah.
So that was my favorite episode. How about you, PJ?
It was A. Good episode.
It's in my top two. To be fair.
And like you said, we did have some great guests.
Let's not forget that we had Dennis Ordinary Board Gamer on.
Good point, early in the year. We we also had our dear friend,
my adopted little sister Gosia, wingspan girl from Poland.
She was on so first her world premiere as it were.
My favorite episode had to be was the episode with Matt and
Zara from Mazzaza Games when they talked about their
Kickstarter, their game on Kickstarter, Kavango.
It was my #2, and I wasn't sure which of us has had obsession.
We came out good because that was a cracking episode.
The beauty of that was the conversation was just it was so
incredible because yes, we talked about their board game
that they were working on and everything that went through it.
But we had this amazing conversation just about, you
know, climate change and conservation and all the
elements that are in this board game.
But we all as members of the human race deal with and that I
could listen to. Matins are for hours and I just.
Love them, I mean, I think we finished recording and then
carried on talking to them for another.
We did. 45 minutes. We did Episode 52. 52A
Conservation Conversation. Right.
Yeah, that's. One of the best titles we've
done this year. I think it really is.
Gavango Ball game completely agree.
PJ is a cracking episode. So good.
I've had the privilege to play that game.
We have a copy here, so not only was the conversation great, but
the game is also a. So we have to add that to Cajun
Con because I have not played. Another one, a list.
Yep, so everyone who's listening to this episode, I hope y'all
are keeping a list of all the games that have to be played a
Cajun Con. You know, we're going to get
through like two of these and two, or there'll be 5 new games
that we've not talked about that have appeared.
Because I'm going to. I'm going to run my mouth city.
Of silver be just a flash in the pan for January.
OK, so last but certainly not least is the M and gems.
And that is your favorite moment moment 2023.
And this could be this is open, it doesn't.
You know, I think we're both game related, but.
Yeah, mine's game related now. I thought about, I mean UK Games
Expo. We've been to some really nice
smaller cons this year. I think we had the one back in
January that Jenny or February Jenny arranged and there was
Nick's birthday shenanigans Scoot con.
But the one, the most recent fun the gaming experience is
whenever I get a chance to play Twilight Imperium.
So we played twice this year with the same nearly the same
Group One We had one one man down in December, but we got
together with the South Anson Gang two weeks ago, the week
between Christmas and New Year. We rolled up at 1:00, set the
game up in half an hour and then we wrapped up about, I think
it's about 10/10/30. And I can see now it felt like I
sat there for an hour. Someone looks at me and says to
me, oh, it must be the worst thing ever, but just a group of
people and but just the game flows.
It's so quick, but it's not quick because it's like 10
hours, but because every action you take, nearly everyone else
could do something. You're never really sat there
doing nothing. You're always talking, You're
negotiating, you're scheming. We end up having the boards
divide into two. There was the Rainbow team,
which was me, Diz and Gareth on 2/3 of the board and it was
Chris and George. The team Orange that turned into
some basic 2 factions and it didn't matter what they were.
They were allies. And we mean this.
We we we were very kind to each other.
There was no PDS disruptions this year.
Remember PDS and. There's none of that.
We were friends, we sat in peace and we took out the other side
and and I'm going to check the scores on the doors, so this one
with 10 first of 10310. Win.
George and Gareth with a respectable 8 at me.
The other Gareth at 7:00 with Chris 7.
That was it. It's just those moments that it
it just flies. It's a treat to play because you
don't get a chance to play those games very often.
I don't know why I ever thought I'd get four games in.
I mean, I I'd love to. That's one 1/4.
It requires a lot of people to clear Diaries out and other
partners and friends and family and babysitters to people.
Correct me if I'm wrong, that is a minimum three player game,
right? Yeah, I I haven't traded it.
I've been We've only played it 6:00 and 5:00.
We've thought about getting the expansion that moves it to 8:00,
but that then sounds like it's going to be a whole day.
But yeah, just one of those epic games that I love to play.
And Twilight Imperium. I love it.
I'll bring, I'll bring, I'll bring it to the Cajun Con and we
can just pretend that we played it.
Yeah, we could pretend. Bring Twilight Inscription.
We can we can play that. We can play.
We can add that. We can add that to the list.
You're listening and you're going to come to Cajun Con.
While on Inscription, add it to the list.
I do need numbers. I need to work out how big, How
big. I've I've got three things
written down. I've written Twilight, Etherium,
Twilight, Imperium, and Swelling.
Oh, Nemesis, Nemesis all in. All in.
Six players with Santa hats. We've we backed the new
retaliation. Yep.
Yep, we're going to. Get that?
OK, so my moment from 2023 and Oh my God, there's so many of
them. OK, so here's the one thing.
All the moments when I was thinking about the one thing
they all have in common is it's the people, right?
It's it's members of the gaming community right there was it was
going to geek way right And meeting up with Heather Dixon
who is working out Apostocracy getting to play that with her
again. There was there was interviewing
Zach Koontz with with his game. He was.
We featured him when I was recording where you and I
learned about recording on location and the challenges
thereof. Then there was meeting everyone
at there was meeting the treasure Belle, Michelle, my, my
lovely, another adopted little sister up in Canada who we I
worked with wise wizard games at Origins, that's right.
And then Gen. Con where I met so many people.
Three episodes? Yeah, download.
Episodes. Three episodes.
And I'm not going to try to list everybody because there was just
so many of you and I don't want to offend, but for me the
highlight moment was in September when our good friend
Diz the Twilight. Period.
The winner? Twilight.
Period. Free, who flew from England to
the United States and stayed with us for a week.
Just to play games. Just to play games, you know, We
showed her around a little bit, but we got to play a lot, I
think 11 games over the course of like 4 evenings after Katie
and I got home from work. That was just a treat, you know,
to to have a friend from overseas stay with us and to
talking to and getting the game, playing dinosaur world with her,
because that was like how that was where she and I wasn't.
It. She and I connected separately
from you, independently from you over dinosaur world and then I
learned that she was in your group and you know, everything
just kind of snow up. That was a really great moment.
I look forward to more of those moments where my friends from
England come to visit and stay with me.
Anybody wants to hang out with PJ?
Don't figure out I need to know your names.
Message me. Put a message anywhere.
Yep. I just remembered we forgot one
person who did a really good show for us, John Triwing Games.
Yes. Essence Special.
Are people on the ground? Thank.
You on the ground? Yep.
Yeah. I think.
I mean those episodes with UK Games Expo and we had all the
contributors there. We had two contributors from
Gen. Con or See John connected to
vocals and sound bites from Essen.
Those were good episodes. We'll be doing more they.
Really were. I keep hearing consistently that
those are some of the favorite episodes from our listeners,
just as you know and I get it, I love it.
If you remember, I think it was when you and I first met and I
went live with you on Meatball Monday 20/21, I think that was.
Whenever that was. I talked about the the vision I
had of being ambassadors at gaming conventions and I think
this year we did a pretty good job of that, you know, trying to
do that. I'd like to see more.
I wish I could have gone to PAX U or gotten someone to do some
sound bites and recording at PAX UI.
Love the idea of a meeple on the ground so that we can go to
every convention, even when we can't go to every convention.
You know I'm trying. To find out when the episode was
There you are. I found you.
There I am. It was the 1st of November 2021.
These were days when I wasn't so obviously I was a lot of free
time. The episode was 2 hours and 40
minutes. You can find that on Instagram
on my video highlights. Wow, 2 hours 40.
I wonder what we spoke about. So we talked about everything.
You weren't quite prepared for me.
We talked about it's it's in the description.
We talked about Louisiana cooking and board games.
Ball games and relationships. Flood and fire.
Damages to game risk. Yep.
Find someone to teach PJS. Only unplayed.
Oh, that was some Star Trek game, wasn't?
It that was Star Trek Fleet Captains New.
Ideas. Instagram shows and content so.
We we finally figured out how to play Fleet Captains.
We played it. It's terrible.
We sold it. We.
Sold it convention ambassadors P JS pre gencom gathering of
friends and then we talked about.
Oh, that's right. People who you'd like to visit
which was me, Board dads, Titan spring game, Titan Games, which
is the place in the year. Professor Meg Carly, who's now
moved to the UK, is that one's. She's in Nottingham, Nottingham.
Nottingham Boarding School with Brandy, Brandy, board game
librarian, Marathon Meeples and the marriage, Marriage talk.
Man, that's a long time ago. But you notice how we talked
about board gaming conventions, ambassadors, We did.
The pre Gen. Con group was to get y'all from
England to come stay here. In the house.
Has it worked? Has it?
Now you come over, you stay here for like one or two days, and
then we all drive together to Indianapolis for Gen.
Con because it's so close. So we need to.
We'll need to plan and bring the kit to do a live podcast
recording at Cajun Con, Cajun Con Live.
So I'm prepared to do that. I've got the kit.
I'll just bring my laptop. Just easy.
I've got a couple of pieces. And we do sound bites and we can
have that as episode or we can have post Cajun, Cajun Con.
You're going to bring the food with you.
You're going to cook the food up for us all.
Well, you know if y'all can. Provide a kitchen, yeah.
You find me a kitchen, I'm a I'm a cook for you.
Yeah. Yep.
So. So, yeah.
For those of you in England, that is April 6th on a Saturday
in 20. 20/20/24. That's so looking forward to
2024. We're looking forward to my
visit anyway, That's pretty much it.
That's the highlight. Of the year.
I mean, it's, I think, what happens if the world.
Ends. Like when we meet those things,
you know, like, I can't do certain things because the
world's just going to end. Like, I can't watch the Grease
the film because I've ever watched it.
That's the end. That's my view in life.
OK, OK. Maybe when we meet there'll be
this and then we're. Going to play Nemesis, We're
going to play Nemesis at twilight.
Imperium. We're not playing Twilight
Imperium for inscription is. What I meant to say we'll play
Twilight in scripture. We can do that, Gareth.
Thank you. This has been a great episode.
I've really enjoyed it, but welcome.
Back to 2020? Yeah.
Back to broadcast 20/20/14. Yep.
Everyone have a great new year. I can say for myself I want
nothing but joy and happiness for all of you and as many games
as you. Keep on gaming.
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