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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple 
uniting players around the 

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world, a 30 minute exploration 
of PJ and Gareth's four-game 

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experiences from across both 
sides of the Atlantic. 

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Each episode, they share their 
thoughts and opinions on the 

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World of War games, including 
their favorite themes, games, 

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hot topics, and much, much more.
Hey and Happy New Year. 

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Welcome to Episode 64 Reflect 
and Project. 

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These are going to be our gems 
of 2023. 

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As always, I am PJ. 
And I'm Gareth. 

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I am so happy to see you. 
Happy New Year, Gareth. 

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Happy New Year. 
It's been a small break across 

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Christmas. 
Yep. 

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But we're back and I'm looking 
forward to, I guess, another 

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another year's worth of talking 
about ball games. 

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I mean, that's what we do best, 
right? 

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We are going to meet up this 
year, which is yes, we haven't 

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told anybody about, but it's 
going to happen. 

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It's going to happen. 
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months away. 
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It is less than three months 
away that you and I will be face

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to face in the same room. 
Oh my gosh. 

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Cajun Cajun Con. 
I love it. 

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I love it. 
Cajun Con in Southampton. 

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That's right. 
You heard it here. 

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I will be in England the first 
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If you didn't invite DM me 
Instagram. 

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Gareth is point man on what we 
are calling Cajun Con. 

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I believe that's the weekend of 
April the 6th I believe. 

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Going to check now, it's the. 
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the target date for. 
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There you go guys. 
So y'all reach. 

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Out in area, more details will 
drop on the socials this week. 

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And this is open to everyone in 
on the Isle of the UK he wants 

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to fly in and then the conic, 
you know you want to fly from 

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the US. 
Fly in, Just come in. 

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Do it. 
It'll be great. 

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Do it'll be great. 
I'm trying to get some of our 

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friends from Eastern Europe to 
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how that goes. 
So Hampton's easy to get to. 

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Heathrow, Bristol, Gatwick, 
Southampton's got an airport, 

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We've got ferries from the Isle 
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You got trains? 
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You got it all. 
So, so the structure of this 

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episode, like I said, is our 
gems of 2023. 

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So Gareth and I are going to 
talk about We're both each going

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to talk about our favorite game 
from 2023, our favorite episode 

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of our podcast from 2023, and 
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which is very that's a wide 
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But so it's game, episode, and 
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Those are our gems of 2023. 
But before we begin, Oh no. 

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Oh no. 
What's happened? 

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I was listening to episode 24 of
our podcast. 

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I feels like it's a year ago. 
Did I make some? 

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It was so. 
What sweeping statements did we 

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make about 2023? 
That you're now going to pick 

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on. 
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we were. 
Looking we. 

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Were looking forward and so at 
first you said you're not going 

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to make any predictions because 
you don't know what 23/20/23 has

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in store. 
However, though you had three 

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games that you were looking 
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Oh, John, then, yeah. 
So the first one was Oros. 

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Yes, I could. 
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Did you enjoy that? 
Did you get, did you get it? 

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Yes, I got it. 
And we played it a lot to 

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player. 
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Your second one was Beast, which
I know you got. 

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Yeah. 
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the privilege of the expansion 
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And then your third game was 
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Which also arrived, but we 
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I need like 4 solid players. 
So what I'm hearing is Cajun Con

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is a great opportunity for 
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I think the challenge of Cajun 
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when you visit what games are we
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Because time is fixed, right? 
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that list. 
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It does need to be on the list. 
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about, I mean, Twilight 
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already. 
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Imperial, OK? 
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it's interesting that you 
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because it leads me to my last 
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wanted to ask you. 
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Twilight Imperium and you said 
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Twilight Imperium four times in 
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Did you do that? 
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I'm just going to check. 
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No, no, definitely not that. 
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No, I know you played it twice 
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Did we? 
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I believe so. 
I'm looking. 

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I'm looking. 
I'm looking for my stats. 

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I'm pretty sure you put me 
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It you've put me under pressure.
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are such good friends, because I
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Constantly just just pad while 
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stats. 
I mean board game stats app or 

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you don't own that stats app? 
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interesting. 
We're talking about getting 

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that. 
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OK, so the three games that you 
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receiving this year in 2020 or 
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got them all. 
If you play two of them, your 

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commitment to play Twilight 
Imperium 4 times, you only made 

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it 2 so. 
I've got to say, it's a miracle.

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It's a miracle that two 
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Yeah. 
But I will talk about one of 

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those games. 
You will. 

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You will. 
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you and you also projected 2023 
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expansions. 
You talked a lot of in fact, you

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listed a ton of expansions. 
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You did I I tried to write them 
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There was an expansion to Hidden
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Oh yeah, that's good. 
That's arrived. 

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The third expansion to canvas. 
That's all right. 

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That's been played a lot. 
These are good. 

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These are good. 
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Hasn't arrived. 
Hasn't OK, so check. 

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Shipping shipping at the moment 
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We, as you recall, you backed 
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It was the first game you ever 
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an episode about that. 
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expansion came out, my wife and 
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the expansion. 
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They arrived the day before 
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We have not opened the box yet. 
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table. 
It's like, ah, there's so many 

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things to get to and and we got 
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So you know you. 
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Paint them. 
You got to paint them first. 

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Just just rewinding. 
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you're here as well and maybe 
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hats just be because. 
I could put that in a pocket. 

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That's so. 
Easy. 

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Easy to bring. 
That is easy, yes. 

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Yeah. 
OK, we'll do that. 

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Anyway, yeah, I I mean that was 
a good segment. 

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I have no idea what I said. 
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I talked about two games I was 
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distilled from Patterson games, 
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A lot mega fan. 
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arrive. 
Now how far did you get through?

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So far we are. 
So last weekend we played We're 

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now at 32% complete, OK, And we 
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Based on that pace, we'll start 
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Oh yeah. 
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Probably so we can. 
We can reflect on the reflection

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of your progress this time next 
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that, so 32%, January 24, let's 
see what percent you are January

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2525. 25 S Also a quick quick 
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We have 234 games in our 
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We played 95.5% of our entire 
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Yep. 
So what I realized after keeping

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track over the past three years,
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played, I'm happy. 
I call that a success. 

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I'm on 21, so I feel successful.
Yeah, well, I mean, you're just 

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successful every day, so you 
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I definitely It's our it was our
worst game game playing year for

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quite a few years. 
Yeah, you had a busy. 

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Mostly the back end of the year,
October, November. 

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You had a busy. 
You had a busy year to be. 

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Usually those months are our 
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but I I commend you for your 95%
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You thanks. 
We did better the year before. 

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So we ticked down slightly. 
I think we did 96 point 

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something in 22, we did 95 in 
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So we'll see. 
Hopefully we can keep it up in 

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the New year. 
So I'm. 

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Sure you will. 
That's a recap of our opening of

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2023, and now we're going to get
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I love this gems. 
This is brilliant, right? 

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This was great. 
I mean, so inspirational. 

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We figured this out like 5 
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To be genius it. 
Peaks the. 

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Entire year. 
So who's going to doing the 

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first game? 
You're going to go first, you're

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you're going to go first your 
favorite game that you played in

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2023? 
It's a tough one. 

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Weirdly, the games that I said 
I'm looking forward to aren't in

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this list. 
So notable highlights. 

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We have thoroughly enjoyed the 
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Ticket to Ride. 
I haven't chose the legacy. 

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I haven't chosen that one. 
We finished it today. 

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Don't tell me because we haven't
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thinking about we're on the 
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one, go and grab it. 
We've played quite a lot of 

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small games this year, so like 
Town 66, Project L sneaks in. 

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But the one game that we played 
the most out of a more 

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heavyweight was Darwin's 
Journey. 

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I love that game. 
I have taught it to many people.

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It's I think you've now you've 
now received your copy or you've

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got got it for Christmas. 
And we've played it. 

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We've played it once so far. 
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So it's a mixture of what? 
Worker placement, action 

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selection, trying to build out 
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It's just a mixture of different
mechanics, two sides of the 

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board. 
You start with the simple 

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version, but if I'm honest, I 
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other side with the Firelands 
Firelands expansion map. 

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It's just delicious and. 
So good. 

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Yeah, just so many things to 
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You've got the classic worker 
placement of I needed to go 

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there, but somebody else has got
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Trying to explore the islands, 
discover the different species, 

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get them to the museum. 
Absolutely fantastic. 

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And there's been my game of the 
year in terms of what I have 

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enjoyed. 
So I'm going to, I'm going to 

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catch you on this at the end of 
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I'm be like, so Darwin's 
journey, yeah. 

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Still be there. 
It's it's. 

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We've even talked about playing 
it this Friday. 

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Just gone. 
But the city of Silver has 

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sneaked in to Kutnahora. 
If that's pronounced right now, 

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I'm making another prediction. 
I'm hoping that's one of my 

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games of the year for 25. 
Let's write that down. 

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I don't know, but we play three 
times in a week and that is 

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pretty rare for a medium sized 
game, so. 

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So do me a favour, do me a 
favour real quick. 

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I want you on air right now to 
pitch to my wife Why we need to 

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get Kunihora. 
Oh, it it is the smoothest. 

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The mechanics are beautifully, 
beautifully meshed together. 

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The production is wonderful. 
It's got these two decks of 

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cards with little sliders which 
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challenging. 
So guess what? 

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Czech Games Republic bought an 
app that is just as good. 

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I prefer the maths and adding it
up. 

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The the boards and the 
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lush gold and silver colour 
palette and it plays really well

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at 2-3 and we've now played it 
at 4:00 so we played it, that's 

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good, 234 player counts and I 
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it I've learned a little bit 
more. 

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So if you haven't seen that 
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that's one of my favorite games 
for this year. 

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Let's see what I say January 25.
So we were in Cincinnati. 

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OH, we went to the Capstone 
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Yeah, they had. 
They had a copy along with the 

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metal coins. 
I got the coins. 

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So we thought about getting it, 
but we were like, you know, 

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let's try and get more capstone 
games, games, capstone game 

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store. 
So we did that, but then we were

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at our local game store here in 
Springfield. 

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My wife had it. 
She goes, do you want it? 

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And I'm like do you or you know,
she doesn't know. 

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She doesn't really heard. 
Like she hears me talk about it.

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So it's like, you know now when 
she listens to episode Kutna 

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Pura Pura if you. 
If you don't collect it, 

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obviously when you visit, we can
add that to the games list. 

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We better start compiling a game
selection, Yeah, separately. 

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So I should probably get to my 
game. 

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Yeah, What was your game of the 
year? 

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So we just talked about it. 
It was it's consistent from 

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January, episode 24 was 
distilled. 

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As you said, I'm a big fan. 
Still yet to play this game? 

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It is so good, Craig needs to 
teach. 

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It teach me, yeah. 
Every time we see it, we're like

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we play it, then we go now let's
not play it because it just 

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annoys PJ. 
Yeah, it does. 

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It does. 
It does annoy me. 

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So tell us, tell us about 
distilled. 

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Distilled is great. 
It is a resource management 

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market. 
There's a market phase and then 

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there's a distilling phase. 
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makes this game shine above all 
other games. 

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So you get to the market and you
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are free, some you have to pay 
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distillery, whatnot. 
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phase, you take all the 
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and you add in alcohol cards and
then you shuffle them, and this 

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represents the actual process of
distilling the alcohol. 

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So you're shuffling. 
You then take the bottom card 

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and the top card because you 
cannot. 

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Part of the distilling process, 
you can't use because it's the 

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dregs at the bottom of the the 
container. 

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And then the top you skim off so
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bottom of the actual physical 
liquid when you're distilling. 

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So you remove. 
Yeah, this is amazing, clever. 

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It's really clever. 
And then you take the rest, and 

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based on those ingredients, it 
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have made rum or whiskey or 
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trying to to distill. 
Some of them require aging. 

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They require bottles or barrels,
wood barrels, steel barrels. 

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So you have to distill them. 
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they get more flavor cards, 
which equate to more victory 

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points when you finally go to 
sell them later in the game. 

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I mean, I'm not a big whiskey 
fan. 

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I enjoy whiskey. 
I'm I'm not much of A, I'm not 

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much of A consumer of alcohol in
general. 

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But this game is so beautiful. 
It is so magnificent. 

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And then Patterson's going to do
another game next year that I'm 

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really looking forward to. 
So you know, that's distilled. 

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You need to play this game as 
soon as possible. 

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Could you make into some very 
terrible drinking game that 

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every time some if you had a 
rack of bottles like vodkas and 

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every time somebody makes a 
drink you have to do a shop? 

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You could do that. 
In fact, there's a little set 

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collection. 
You can collect bottles. 

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So after you sell them your 
unique bottles, you keep off to 

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the side. 
And the more you have, the more 

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victory points at the end of the
game. 

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Because that's one of the things
you can purchase in the market 

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is better barrels, better 
bottles, better ingredients, 

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better pizza. 
Papa John's? 

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No, sorry. 
You could basically, if he's 

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somehow get Craig and Becky, we 
can you can teach me that 

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occasion and I'll bring the 
alcohol there. 

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You go then. 
Because someone's driving home. 

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I feel like, I feel like the one
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distilled, you should be 
drinking whiskey. 

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And if I if, if I can, if I can,
I will. 

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I'm usually the driver, so I'm 
not. 

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You haven't got a car in the UK?
Says no I don't. 

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So I just don't drink whiskey. 
But that's a whole story from my

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child. 
From my childhood, my teenage No

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worries, no worries. 
So that's distilled is my game. 

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So those are our games, right? 
So that's Darwin's journey and 

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distilled 2023. 
Those are our games. 

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Now we're going to move on to 
our favorite episode. 

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Episode Episode first. 
You're going to go first. 

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So we go through quite a few 
episodes. 

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In 2023, there were some notable
guests. 

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Obviously, we can't forget Craig
get into games. 

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Don't forget he's just gone live
with his first podcasts. 

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Get the games on air. 
Episode one went live yesterday 

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or over the weekend, whatever 
the days is. 

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Check that out. 
We had Adam from Table dot 

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vibes. 
He had some fun with those guys 

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talking about Halloween and 
Christmas. 

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We had Carl with Kelp, is that 
right? 

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Yes, Carl Kelp. 
That's right. 

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Carl 2K. 
And then, but my my favorite 

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episode was having Dan Halligan 
from Obsession on the show 

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talking about the Kickstarter 
that went live however many 

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moons ago that was Now feels 
like forever. 

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I know, but it was only three 
months. 

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It was. 
Only three months it was, which 

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was the character's expansion. 
If you haven't listened, it is 

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one of the most popular episodes
we've done. 

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Huge response to it. 
It was episode 57 and obsession 

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with obsession for the Board 
Game, an interview with Dan 

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Halligan. 
At that point there was a couple

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of secrets. 
Not secrets, but early reveals 

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he gave us, which was an 
absolute privilege to hear 

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about. 
He's just an awesome guy, just 

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shared the passion of obsession 
with us. 

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And has anyone's been listening 
to his show for the last 50-60 

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episodes? 
Knows that we've talked about 

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this game no end. 
So having Dan on the show was an

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absolute highlight of the year. 
And one day maybe I'll get to 

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pay Obsession with Dan. 
But for now, yeah, it's just a 

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dream. 
So you can play with him. 

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On BG online. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

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It's not the same. 
Thing not the same. 

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And we need to catch him before 
he moves to Utah, which is, you 

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know, that's a long way to the 
West from where we are. 

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So because he's because he's 
getting ready to move, he's 

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moving, yeah. 
It's right isn't he's moving to 

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Utah? 
Pretty soon, so, OK, He was kind

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enough to let us know that, so 
yeah. 

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So that was my favorite episode.
How about you, PJ? 

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It was A. 
Good episode. 

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It's in my top two. 
To be fair. 

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And like you said, we did have 
some great guests. 

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Let's not forget that we had 
Dennis Ordinary Board Gamer on. 

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Good point, early in the year. 
We we also had our dear friend, 

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my adopted little sister Gosia, 
wingspan girl from Poland. 

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She was on so first her world 
premiere as it were. 

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My favorite episode had to be 
was the episode with Matt and 

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Zara from Mazzaza Games when 
they talked about their 

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Kickstarter, their game on 
Kickstarter, Kavango. 

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It was my #2, and I wasn't sure 
which of us has had obsession. 

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We came out good because that 
was a cracking episode. 

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The beauty of that was the 
conversation was just it was so 

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incredible because yes, we 
talked about their board game 

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that they were working on and 
everything that went through it.

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But we had this amazing 
conversation just about, you 

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know, climate change and 
conservation and all the 

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elements that are in this board 
game. 

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But we all as members of the 
human race deal with and that I 

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could listen to. 
Matins are for hours and I just.

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Love them, I mean, I think we 
finished recording and then 

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carried on talking to them for 
another. 

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We did. 45 minutes. 
We did Episode 52. 52A 

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Conservation Conversation. 
Right. 

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Yeah, that's. 
One of the best titles we've 

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done this year. 
I think it really is. 

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Gavango Ball game completely 
agree. 

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PJ is a cracking episode. 
So good. 

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I've had the privilege to play 
that game. 

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We have a copy here, so not only
was the conversation great, but 

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the game is also a. 
So we have to add that to Cajun 

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Con because I have not played. 
Another one, a list. 

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Yep, so everyone who's listening
to this episode, I hope y'all 

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are keeping a list of all the 
games that have to be played a 

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Cajun Con. 
You know, we're going to get 

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through like two of these and 
two, or there'll be 5 new games 

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that we've not talked about that
have appeared. 

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Because I'm going to. 
I'm going to run my mouth city. 

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Of silver be just a flash in the
pan for January. 

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OK, so last but certainly not 
least is the M and gems. 

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And that is your favorite moment
moment 2023. 

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And this could be this is open, 
it doesn't. 

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You know, I think we're both 
game related, but. 

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Yeah, mine's game related now. 
I thought about, I mean UK Games

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Expo. 
We've been to some really nice 

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smaller cons this year. 
I think we had the one back in 

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January that Jenny or February 
Jenny arranged and there was 

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Nick's birthday shenanigans 
Scoot con. 

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But the one, the most recent fun
the gaming experience is 

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whenever I get a chance to play 
Twilight Imperium. 

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So we played twice this year 
with the same nearly the same 

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Group One We had one one man 
down in December, but we got 

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together with the South Anson 
Gang two weeks ago, the week 

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between Christmas and New Year. 
We rolled up at 1:00, set the 

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game up in half an hour and then
we wrapped up about, I think 

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it's about 10/10/30. 
And I can see now it felt like I

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sat there for an hour. 
Someone looks at me and says to 

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me, oh, it must be the worst 
thing ever, but just a group of 

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people and but just the game 
flows. 

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It's so quick, but it's not 
quick because it's like 10 

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hours, but because every action 
you take, nearly everyone else 

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could do something. 
You're never really sat there 

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doing nothing. 
You're always talking, You're 

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negotiating, you're scheming. 
We end up having the boards 

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divide into two. 
There was the Rainbow team, 

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which was me, Diz and Gareth on 
2/3 of the board and it was 

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Chris and George. 
The team Orange that turned into

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some basic 2 factions and it 
didn't matter what they were. 

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They were allies. 
And we mean this. 

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We we we were very kind to each 
other. 

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There was no PDS disruptions 
this year. 

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Remember PDS and. 
There's none of that. 

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We were friends, we sat in peace
and we took out the other side 

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and and I'm going to check the 
scores on the doors, so this one

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with 10 first of 10310. 
Win. 

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George and Gareth with a 
respectable 8 at me. 

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The other Gareth at 7:00 with 
Chris 7. 

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That was it. 
It's just those moments that it 

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it just flies. 
It's a treat to play because you

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don't get a chance to play those
games very often. 

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I don't know why I ever thought 
I'd get four games in. 

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I mean, I I'd love to. 
That's one 1/4. 

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It requires a lot of people to 
clear Diaries out and other 

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partners and friends and family 
and babysitters to people. 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, that is
a minimum three player game, 

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right? 
Yeah, I I haven't traded it. 

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I've been We've only played it 
6:00 and 5:00. 

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We've thought about getting the 
expansion that moves it to 8:00,

452
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
but that then sounds like it's 
going to be a whole day. 

453
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:08,520
But yeah, just one of those epic
games that I love to play. 

454
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,800
And Twilight Imperium. 
I love it. 

455
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520
I'll bring, I'll bring, I'll 
bring it to the Cajun Con and we

456
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,040
can just pretend that we played 
it. 

457
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,840
Yeah, we could pretend. 
Bring Twilight Inscription. 

458
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,920
We can we can play that. 
We can play. 

459
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,960
We can add that. 
We can add that to the list. 

460
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040
You're listening and you're 
going to come to Cajun Con. 

461
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,720
While on Inscription, add it to 
the list. 

462
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,480
I do need numbers. 
I need to work out how big, How 

463
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000
big. 
I've I've got three things 

464
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,840
written down. 
I've written Twilight, Etherium,

465
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,440
Twilight, Imperium, and 
Swelling. 

466
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,160
Oh, Nemesis, Nemesis all in. 
All in. 

467
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,360
Six players with Santa hats. 
We've we backed the new 

468
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,800
retaliation. 
Yep. 

469
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,840
Yep, we're going to. 
Get that? 

470
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,880
OK, so my moment from 2023 and 
Oh my God, there's so many of 

471
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920
them. 
OK, so here's the one thing. 

472
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,840
All the moments when I was 
thinking about the one thing 

473
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800
they all have in common is it's 
the people, right? 

474
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,200
It's it's members of the gaming 
community right there was it was

475
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,560
going to geek way right And 
meeting up with Heather Dixon 

476
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,880
who is working out Apostocracy 
getting to play that with her 

477
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480
again. 
There was there was interviewing

478
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Zach Koontz with with his game. 
He was. 

479
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480
We featured him when I was 
recording where you and I 

480
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720
learned about recording on 
location and the challenges 

481
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200
thereof. 
Then there was meeting everyone 

482
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,480
at there was meeting the 
treasure Belle, Michelle, my, my

483
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,600
lovely, another adopted little 
sister up in Canada who we I 

484
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,920
worked with wise wizard games at
Origins, that's right. 

485
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
And then Gen. 
Con where I met so many people. 

486
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,760
Three episodes? 
Yeah, download. 

487
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,720
Episodes. 
Three episodes. 

488
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,200
And I'm not going to try to list
everybody because there was just

489
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960
so many of you and I don't want 
to offend, but for me the 

490
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,160
highlight moment was in 
September when our good friend 

491
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Diz the Twilight. 
Period. 

492
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,080
The winner? 
Twilight. 

493
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:14,520
Period. 
Free, who flew from England to 

494
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960
the United States and stayed 
with us for a week. 

495
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,120
Just to play games. 
Just to play games, you know, We

496
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,720
showed her around a little bit, 
but we got to play a lot, I 

497
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,920
think 11 games over the course 
of like 4 evenings after Katie 

498
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,160
and I got home from work. 
That was just a treat, you know,

499
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,160
to to have a friend from 
overseas stay with us and to 

500
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,800
talking to and getting the game,
playing dinosaur world with her,

501
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,320
because that was like how that 
was where she and I wasn't. 

502
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,280
It. 
She and I connected separately 

503
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,160
from you, independently from you
over dinosaur world and then I 

504
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640
learned that she was in your 
group and you know, everything 

505
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920
just kind of snow up. 
That was a really great moment. 

506
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
I look forward to more of those 
moments where my friends from 

507
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,000
England come to visit and stay 
with me. 

508
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Anybody wants to hang out with 
PJ? 

509
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,400
Don't figure out I need to know 
your names. 

510
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Message me. 
Put a message anywhere. 

511
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Yep. 
I just remembered we forgot one 

512
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,960
person who did a really good 
show for us, John Triwing Games.

513
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,800
Yes. 
Essence Special. 

514
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Are people on the ground? 
Thank. 

515
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,800
You on the ground? 
Yep. 

516
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,440
Yeah. 
I think. 

517
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,560
I mean those episodes with UK 
Games Expo and we had all the 

518
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,840
contributors there. 
We had two contributors from 

519
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Gen. 
Con or See John connected to 

520
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640
vocals and sound bites from 
Essen. 

521
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Those were good episodes. 
We'll be doing more they. 

522
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Really were. 
I keep hearing consistently that

523
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160
those are some of the favorite 
episodes from our listeners, 

524
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880
just as you know and I get it, I
love it. 

525
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,760
If you remember, I think it was 
when you and I first met and I 

526
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,880
went live with you on Meatball 
Monday 20/21, I think that was. 

527
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,080
Whenever that was. 
I talked about the the vision I 

528
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,640
had of being ambassadors at 
gaming conventions and I think 

529
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,280
this year we did a pretty good 
job of that, you know, trying to

530
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200
do that. 
I'd like to see more. 

531
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,000
I wish I could have gone to PAX 
U or gotten someone to do some 

532
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,800
sound bites and recording at PAX
UI. 

533
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Love the idea of a meeple on the
ground so that we can go to 

534
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,760
every convention, even when we 
can't go to every convention. 

535
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,320
You know I'm trying. 
To find out when the episode was

536
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,680
There you are. 
I found you. 

537
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,320
There I am. 
It was the 1st of November 2021.

538
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
These were days when I wasn't so
obviously I was a lot of free 

539
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,840
time. 
The episode was 2 hours and 40 

540
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,840
minutes. 
You can find that on Instagram 

541
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,600
on my video highlights. 
Wow, 2 hours 40. 

542
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,480
I wonder what we spoke about. 
So we talked about everything. 

543
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,720
You weren't quite prepared for 
me. 

544
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
We talked about it's it's in the
description. 

545
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,040
We talked about Louisiana 
cooking and board games. 

546
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Ball games and relationships. 
Flood and fire. 

547
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Damages to game risk. 
Yep. 

548
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Find someone to teach PJS. 
Only unplayed. 

549
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Oh, that was some Star Trek 
game, wasn't? 

550
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080
It that was Star Trek Fleet 
Captains New. 

551
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Ideas. 
Instagram shows and content so. 

552
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,680
We we finally figured out how to
play Fleet Captains. 

553
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,280
We played it. 
It's terrible. 

554
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,360
We sold it. 
We. 

555
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Sold it convention ambassadors P
JS pre gencom gathering of 

556
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,520
friends and then we talked 
about. 

557
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,280
Oh, that's right. 
People who you'd like to visit 

558
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,960
which was me, Board dads, Titan 
spring game, Titan Games, which 

559
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
is the place in the year. 
Professor Meg Carly, who's now 

560
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,400
moved to the UK, is that one's. 
She's in Nottingham, Nottingham.

561
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Nottingham Boarding School with 
Brandy, Brandy, board game 

562
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440
librarian, Marathon Meeples and 
the marriage, Marriage talk. 

563
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Man, that's a long time ago. 
But you notice how we talked 

564
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,720
about board gaming conventions, 
ambassadors, We did. 

565
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,680
The pre Gen. 
Con group was to get y'all from 

566
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,560
England to come stay here. 
In the house. 

567
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Has it worked? 
Has it? 

568
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Now you come over, you stay here
for like one or two days, and 

569
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
then we all drive together to 
Indianapolis for Gen. 

570
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Con because it's so close. 
So we need to. 

571
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,800
We'll need to plan and bring the
kit to do a live podcast 

572
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200
recording at Cajun Con, Cajun 
Con Live. 

573
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,560
So I'm prepared to do that. 
I've got the kit. 

574
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,800
I'll just bring my laptop. 
Just easy. 

575
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,520
I've got a couple of pieces. 
And we do sound bites and we can

576
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,080
have that as episode or we can 
have post Cajun, Cajun Con. 

577
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,000
You're going to bring the food 
with you. 

578
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,560
You're going to cook the food up
for us all. 

579
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Well, you know if y'all can. 
Provide a kitchen, yeah. 

580
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,480
You find me a kitchen, I'm a I'm
a cook for you. 

581
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Yeah. 
Yep. 

582
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640
So. 
So, yeah. 

583
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,280
For those of you in England, 
that is April 6th on a Saturday 

584
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,320
in 20. 20/20/24. 
That's so looking forward to 

585
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200
2024. 
We're looking forward to my 

586
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,800
visit anyway, That's pretty much
it. 

587
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,600
That's the highlight. 
Of the year. 

588
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200
I mean, it's, I think, what 
happens if the world. 

589
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Ends. 
Like when we meet those things, 

590
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760
you know, like, I can't do 
certain things because the 

591
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,480
world's just going to end. 
Like, I can't watch the Grease 

592
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,720
the film because I've ever 
watched it. 

593
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,200
That's the end. 
That's my view in life. 

594
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,080
OK, OK. 
Maybe when we meet there'll be 

595
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,000
this and then we're. 
Going to play Nemesis, We're 

596
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,000
going to play Nemesis at 
twilight. 

597
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480
Imperium. 
We're not playing Twilight 

598
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Imperium for inscription is. 
What I meant to say we'll play 

599
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Twilight in scripture. 
We can do that, Gareth. 

600
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Thank you. 
This has been a great episode. 

601
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,200
I've really enjoyed it, but 
welcome. 

602
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Back to 2020? 
Yeah. 

603
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Back to broadcast 20/20/14. 
Yep. 

604
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Everyone have a great new year. 
I can say for myself I want 

605
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,800
nothing but joy and happiness 
for all of you and as many games

606
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080
as you. 
Keep on gaming. 

607
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Yep. 
OK. 

608
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,159
Thanks everyone for listening. 
Thanks everyone. 

609
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:14,520
For listening, please subscribe.
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610
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,159
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611
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,320
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612
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,520
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