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Welcome to Maple to me, people 
uniting players around the 

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A 30-minute exploration of PJ 

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and Gareth ball. 
Game experiences from across 

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They share their thoughts and 
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themes games, hot topics and 

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much, much more. 
Hey, good morning everyone and 

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welcome to episode 38 gencon 
with a J. 

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I'm PJ. 
I'm Gareth and we are going to 

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talk about gencon 2023 which 
took place where Gareth In egham

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that famous suburb outside of 
London, outside of London. 

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Okay. 
Good cause I had no idea what 

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kind of sounds kind of Southwest
West. 

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Kind of are more West. 
I'm not quite sure, but it was 

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about is outside London. 
So who put this together? 

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Jen e, JH, engine, Eve's. 
That's why it's about at gencon 

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with a J. 
Not with a G. 

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The player ones. 
I like it. 

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I like it. 
Yeah, so Jen Corner. 

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Think this is a 2nd Gen Con. 
We missed the first Gen Con a 

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comment below. 
Why you missed it. 

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Last year. 
It gencon is to celebrate 

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Jenny's birthday, which was last
week. 

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Wow, was a birthday 
Extravaganza. 

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White Pro is a place to be, 
because not only was it Jenny's 

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birthday? 
And we had gencon to celebrate. 

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Yeah, it was my birthday and my 
wife's birthday on Sunday. 

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We have the same birthday, so 
happy birthday to Do you and 

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Carrie and happy birthday to 
Jenny if she's listening. 

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So yeah and it was a know that 
that's cool. 

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It was good. 
Yeah it was quite nice hanging 

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out with a group of I don't 
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of the community and there were 
a bunch of y'all. 

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We had a birthday cake, we have 
birthday, at least I think three

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Renditions of happy birthday, 
which was absolutely awesome 

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coming but last time somebody 
saying happy birthday. 

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So so there was cake as well. 
Made by Cara, who made a 

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delicious, like, kind of sponge 
cake. 

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Which was you had a lot of baked
goods to didn't that. 

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Yeah. 
These, these General Instagram 

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Community sessions that we have 
between us all ourselves. 

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Have lots of board games, of 
course, awesome people. 

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And then we just have a food 
list and everyone just says I'm 

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going to bring X and so there's 
home baked, cooking, there's 

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guacamole. 
That always comes. 

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There's snacks Galore sweets 
Galore. 

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Your bread, all the things you 
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And this, this venue had a even 
had a little kitchen area was 

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actually a cafe, sometimes we 
had. 

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Yeah, there's a lot of grazing, 
did you know? 

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Did you know, the Craig was a 
baker now. 

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So, the day before, which I 
guess this happened on Saturday.

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So, I guess this woman Friday, 
he was sending me photographs of

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things. 
He was baking in preparation for

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this. 
Like me and Craig's. 

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Yeah, that was jealous. 
That's a little joke. 

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There was a lot of really 
awesome cakes. 

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Cinnamon buns, coming up those, 
but yeah, I was really busy the 

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last couple weeks. 
I haven't really paid attention.

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So we just turned up slightly 
later than everyone else. 

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Most because I had to go and 
cute by records at some 

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ridiculous hours every morning. 
Like, 4:30, we got up because in

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Sasha record a bus a whole 
different podcast. 

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So, we got, we got there about 
12 and then, All these events. 

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And if anyone's interested in 
and they're in the UK, the want 

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to come along just message us 
and yeah it's just play games. 

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So tell me more about the venue 
like where was it? 

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So it wasn't an atom is Nigam. 
It was in a old church. 

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I don't know how old the church 
was, but let's say it's a modern

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modernist church, he says. 
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started to be used as a 
community center so it's 

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actually called something. 
Community Center. 

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So it had said the organ in 
place and where the sermon would

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speech, but there was a ball pit
and there's a crash area and 

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there was a say like a cafe is a
cafe during the day, so making 

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good use of the space, which 
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That's great. 
That's awesome. 

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So what did you play? 
What do you get to play? 

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So I'm getting there. 
Getting there slight later. 

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The thing was in full swing. 
So we sat down, We played 

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Galileo project. 
First of all, which is in the 

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series of like Demeter and then,
you've got ganymede's this 

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continues, the story that 
counties can same kind of 1990s,

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early vectorbase, graphical, 
right? 

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Artwork. 
And we play that with John from 

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try win games, okay? 
And we had a, we had an incident

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know, we had an incident What 
happened? 

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Now, the tables were slightly 
too small. 

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So if I had to do some critique 
of the venue for some ball 

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games, you need a slightly 
larger tables. 

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Now the gallery approaches, 
actually quite modular. 

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So you kind of got bored, you 
move around. 

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Anyway, they were overhanging by
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of the way through hijab has 
managed to flip. 

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He's bored upwards. 
Luckily, you can, you can kind 

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of calculate the reset, you 
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Because the way the car Has laid
out but we lost one of the 

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markers and that it hardly even 
bounce. 

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Like, you know, I was just like,
I've hardly ever shifted it, 

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everything else is the middle of
table, but how can we have lost 

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it? 
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minutes, maybe 15 minutes 
looking and being careful. 

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Not to trash the rest of table 
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I mean it was a muscleman Conan.
There was a massive drain like, 

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you know, churches where they 
eventually succumb in which we 

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lifted up not a drain like he's 
like an air vent, but Years and 

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years of dust was beside over 
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But yeah, we would have seen 
this bright yellow token. 

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So we decided that it must still
be here and we would wait till 

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the end of the game, pick up the
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So, we finish the game which was
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Shout, go check it out, tidy it 
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That was like, a wrought-iron 
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Lift it up. 
And there, it was the yellow 

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token and all its bright Glory. 
Which was a relief. 

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I have a similar story from this
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We played Frost Haven, we got in
several scenarios but again, for

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saving takes a lot of space, 
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So, I have the scenario book, 
and I'm trying to lift it up so 

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I can get ready to read the next
section and all of my cards that

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are in my hand or on top of it, 
slide onto the floor, okay? 

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No, big deal, pick them up, 
great. 

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Keep playing until the following
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When Katie's cleaning up and 
sweeping the floor and she's 

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like, I found one of your cards.
I was a card short, he would 

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never need him, and I didn't 
even realize it. 

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It's a good thing. 
I survived that scenario. 

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Yeah, it was close. 
But yeah, you got to watch that 

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tables but table presents. 
We've got haha. 

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I live them. 
If Parts in this little pop. 

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Yeah, that I'm not even sure 
what they came from, but we 

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found them. 
And I've got up here on the 

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side, put it away later and it's
now two years in and then, I 

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don't know. 
I mean, I think I'd have to sit 

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there and maybe take a 
photograph, but Instagram and 

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ask the I'll steer the masses 
for over. 

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There you go, the community 
challenge. 

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Well what else did you play? 
Because Craig from, get in game,

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Ginza games as there and his 
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Now, he's famous for numerous 
things but one thing he does run

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isn't online Blood on the clock 
tower. 

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Yeah, most weeks which you have 
attended in the past. 

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I have attended several of them.
Yes. 

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So with him, in hand of a, you 
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decided to play that. 
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at this point as well, hadn't 
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So we went outside with a nice 
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Okay. 
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And we sat outside in a 
semi-circle and we played with 

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nearly 40 50, 50, new players, 
old players, and had a great 

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time. 
There was one L've 12. 

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Yeah, yeah, tens. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's Genesis. 
I think, and then. 

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Yeah. 
Craig is amazing. 

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Amazing job. 
Being a Storyteller. 

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I started out on the evil team 
as a spy Brad from games of 

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Benny, was the Imp. 
He's always bad. 

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He always bear. 
That's sad and got picked out 

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quite quickly and then killed 
himself the next night. 

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So I became the Imp and then 
proceeded to cause Havoc with 

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think it's Ali, who was new 
never played before, if any 

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social deduction games, she was 
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So we there ourselves to evil 
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Are her other half was the 
Saints, which if he dies during 

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the execution, the good team 
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So, it's yeah. 
So he always plays always plays 

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Blue. 
We turns out actually, they're 

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only about 25 minutes from where
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So, I have another set of Gamers
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is where to be. 
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I hope soon get to hang out with
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That was really fun to see a 
blond cocktails. 

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Brilliant, everyone had a good 
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Good and we ended the the just 
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To but he got a bit cold inside 
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So inside became then we played 
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with Craig. 
I think we didn't maybe four 

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episodes ago, we did. 
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carry Craig and Becky and it was
just as delightful as as I 

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guess. 
You've got it as well. 

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Haven't, you know, I know it's 
just Craig, we both said, 

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because of you. 
What we what we talked about was

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how What it is? 
Yes, that's right. 

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That's right. 
And that try for two is got its 

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own problem. 
Yeah, it's because I'm problems.

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So, yeah. 
So I would. 

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Yeah, I enjoyed that. 
It's a nice kind of set 

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collection. 
I love components, very nice. 

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It was a standard version that 
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Now, at this point I'm starting 
to fly a fade, I am feeling 

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tired. 
Yeah, I think I woke up at 4:30 

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we were queuing About 5:30 5:40 
into degrees was really cold and

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me being slightly older. 
Now, I'm not really made out for

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standing in queues for three 
hours, for some records and then

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go into convention. 
Anyway so we then were taught to

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keep the heroes out. 
Talk to me about that, I don't 

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I'm not familiar with that. 
So I'd say I think one of the 

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seven certain team of crew of 
got it but Brad was very keen to

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teach yes, you are on the evil 
team you inside a dungeon, it's 

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kind of got a whole set of Maps.
You play through as a campaign, 

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but we started with the jester. 
Entry-level map. 

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You have a mixture of different 
monsters, you are. 

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So I was like the Wizards. 
Craig was the dragon Carrie was 

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like a slime and Kira was a 
ghoul. 

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They've all got different 
powers. 

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So I have 2 words, you can 
teleport and do some stuff to 

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Dragon. 
What is it wasn't his own in the

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Treasure chamber? 
And you'll start on the map. 

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You can basically car drafting 
So you draw five cards, you play

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the card, it might move, or you 
might activate a room, or you 

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can shoot, or you can attack and
every turn. 

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So let's say, I go end of my 
turn, the heroes try to invade. 

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So another card is revealed and 
the heroes start coming into the

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dungeon. 
So you kind of remind me of the 

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games like Dungeon Keeper from 
like yeah kind of early late 90s

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early notices where you and you 
just trying to defend. 

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Okay so you basically key take 
it in turns turn Invade turn 

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invade. 
And what's quite stressful as 

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every time, a hero moves into a 
room, if there's a hero that's 

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been kind of knocked out or is 
kind of been utilized, he gets 

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kind of energized by another 
hero arriving in Tokyo activates

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again, so you can actually end 
up with going into room with two

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Heroes that were basically 
resting and they get 

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re-energized and they come back 
at 3:00 and what needs to happen

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is they need to basically go 
through rooms. 

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Opening treasure chests. 
If they get to the Dragon's 

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treasure hordes, and four of 
them are in there and the end 

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around they activate, the game 
is over, it was close a couple 

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of times and we got to the very 
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rest card. 
And so we were successful, so it

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was good. 
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then we decided I needed to eat 
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delivered in and that gave me 
the second wind and that at that

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point, some of the kids had gone
home. 

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You've gone home because we have
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there. 
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rolling Realms nurse, who Shelly
from out of town games. 

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Yep. 
And her son and we played 

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through around a volume Realms. 
I do like rolling Realms is so 

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easy to teach. 
Oh good. 

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And it's a nice a really nice 
rolling right? 

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It really is. 
Yeah, you know, now generally, 

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when I teach that, I still stick
to the original Yeah, Realms. 

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Yeah, no promos. 
No promises. 

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No. 
We added in when added in, 

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right? 
In the last round was the 

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Pattaya because we play Liberty 
Leah, right? 

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With them before Liberatore has 
an easy realm. 

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Yeah. 
Easy until you really mess up 

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like I did and I wrote the 
number down then in realize how 

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much I'd messed up on that card,
but it is a nice is a nice card.

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So if if anyone's listening and 
hasn't checked out riding 

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Realms, do it's from Jamie 
stigma based on many of the 

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games. 
Seen his portfolio, ball games 

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under stoma and then he said he 
left the primaries in which is 

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what's wonderful. 
And then we have an hour to go 

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and we've wrapped today up with 
Planet unknown, man. 

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Now you're as if I weren't 
jealous enough, I don't pay them

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for ages. 
I still haven't played it. 

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I can't find a copy, any gas and
it's this was a thing is Jenny's

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copy. 
So what's great is people bring 

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you know, Four or five games 
each and the end up in a big 

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pile. 
And then we had about an hour 

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and a half to go, and we broke 
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mixed up because I've been with 
carrying Kira the whole way 

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nearly because where we arrived 
late, we're always kind of out 

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of sync, right? 
So when we were finished, other 

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teams that finish, so we kind of
picked up some stragglers, but 

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in that game carrying, Kira went
to play. 

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Stop the train, so seduction. 
Okay, like Nick building review,

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K, Harrison try, The hustle that
table and the other group. 

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Play something I've completely 
forgotten so I won't dwell on 

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it. 
Yeah, so four of us sat down 

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myself Lizzie ballgame with my 
family. 

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No Cara and then a singer games 
by forgotten to gentleman's 

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name. 
But they hadn't played before. 

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And we sat and played that 
through, which is obviously, you

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are got the lovely Lazy. 
Susan Spinning Wheel taking a 

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tile placing on the map, trying 
to score optimally and it's 

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nice. 
It took about an hour and then 

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we tidied up left the place like
we found it. 

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There was a lot of rubbish. 
Lots of foods redistributed. 

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Games packing up and then we 
left. 

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Hmm. 
And that was me. 

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Got home about 11:00 p.m. so I 
think that's be about 10. 

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So we're talking about an hour 
hour drive now Drive. 

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Yeah, about now was in into 
London was a bit longer getting 

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there but yeah, it's really good
and then we will. 

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So that's Pat's Gen Con, and I, 
then think the next time we will

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see, everybody will be at UK 
games Expo, which is coming up. 

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Coming up. 
What that is the end of May? 

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So let's be honest, there's only
five or six weeks away. 

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I've got a convention before. 
That, what have you got? 

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I've got a geek way to the West 
in st. 

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Louis May 17th to the 20th and 
is what sort of currents is at 

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board gaming, or is it got tray?
It is so it is, it is all play 

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games. 
There's a Small vendor Hall. 

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But his so small is small, it's 
really focused on open gaming, 

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right? 
So it's just a huge haul. 

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The tables for gaming and you 
can bring your own games and 

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play, whatever you want to do. 
They also have the games 

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library. 
That is housed at Miniature 

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Market. 
Okay? 

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St. 
Louis. 

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Yeah. 
Which is massive, and then I've 

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got a play in Wind section. 
So Katie and I have been really,

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and we're going to be very 
strategic about it this year. 

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So, we went through the A and 
win list, wrote down the games, 

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we want to play, underlined 
could hear my paper underline, 

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the games that we hope we get to
play, and we hope we win, one of

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which is planet unknown, it has 
that word that. 

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And so you play, so you play the
game and then like when you're 

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done, you turn it back in and 
they've got a little thing for 

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you to fill out. 
I have not done the play and win

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before. 
No, I don't know if you, I don't

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know if you do a review or you 
just put in your name and it's 

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like a Apple drawing, but at the
end of the, at the end of the 

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weekend, you know they'll call 
out names and and you'll win 

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that company. 
You win the copy. 

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Okay, yeah, yeah. 
So that's how I understand it. 

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So the more you play the, maybe 
the less popular games you play,

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I guess you've got a better 
chance. 

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You could you had quite a list 
you want to? 

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Or is it? 
Is it a secret? 

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You don't people know you're 
just distracted. 

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You I don't think it's a secret.
I don't know how much of a 

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strategy it is but There's what 
we got two, four, six, eight. 

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And about 25 games on this list,
the list is huge. 

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So we kind of had to narrow it 
down. 

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The other thing too is so like I
said, Planet unknown if we even 

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get a copy right because if it's
if it's checked out and someone 

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else is playing it you have to 
check it out yourself. 

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Yeah so like if you check it 
out, I can come and join you in 

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play it only. 
I can win in. 

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Yeah, which is okay. 
I mean, I'm okay with that too. 

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Because the other the other 
objective of geek way, the 

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beauty of geek way is it's 
allows us to play games. 

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And then when we get to Gen Con,
that's gencon with a G will 

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know, Willie, okay. 
We know we want to buy this game

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or, you know, or not right. 
I know a lot of people use board

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game arena for that same 
purpose, playing games that are 

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new to decide whether the 
purchase it or not. 

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So it's kind of our very own. 
So we're doing that and then I 

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have an interview this Friday. 
With double exposure to see if 

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I'm going to get a position to 
work at Origins the legs. 

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All right. 
When's Origins Origins is June 

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June? 
It's June. 

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I don't know if she is a couple 
of weeks usually often games 

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like space two weeks after UK. 
Yeah, so I'm excited, I'm 

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excited about that. 
I do real quick. 

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I want to tell you my parallel 
story while you were at gencon 

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with a J, right? 
So like I said, we played Frost 

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Haven. 
We got a group together, we 

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played the first three actual 
scenario is that if that's all 

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you've got together with frost 
even know because two weeks ago 

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we played scenario zero which 
was teachable right? 

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Okay yeah so we played scenario 
1 and this is not really 

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spoilers scenario. 
One is when you actually arrive 

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at Frost Haven and the scenario 
is that it's under attack and so

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you've got to go and help out. 
Well it was my last opportunity 

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for a teacher. 
Moment for one of our players 

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who had never played Gloom 
Haven. 

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So Midway through the game, I 
was I was killed. 

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So they're still playing for 
another two hours. 

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That's when I started bothering 
you with all my text messages 

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got you because I'm like okay I 
just want to call you and so 

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yeah it's a way to house nothing
you can do. 

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Yeah. 
Then I could do that sucks. 

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It's okay. 
It was fine two hours, two 

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hours. 
Yeah. 

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But you know, there could 
brought Scotch broth with corned

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beef and turnips and so I got to
eat Katie. 

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Made a bread pudding. 
So, I got to eat that too and 

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hang out and just chat with 
people and then interestingly 

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enough, there's a knock on the 
front door. 

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Yeah, Iseman, yes. 
Won't tell ya. 

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What CPS, what did that? 
What did you get? 

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I so far. 
Ian guard. 

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What is that? 
We were a late pledge to this 

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game. 
It's by Sky Kingdom game. 

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Okay? 
Yeah. 

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It is a 12 two-player 
Cooperative campaign driven 

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game. 
They've got the foreteller app. 

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And it's kind of like it's 
similar to ISS Vanguard in that 

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it's, that campaign Cooperative 
type of a game except this is 

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very much, you know, swords and 
armor and fighting in the winter

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of I so far, haven't really 
gotten too much into it. 

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We organize the cards and 
everything. 

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The box is thirty-six pounds in 
weight. 

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It is amazing. 
Company Miniatures idea, for 

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chips, know because you've got 
have you finished, Isis young, 

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Vanguard? 
No, no. 

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You got frosting on the go, 
maybe stop buying Campaign 

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games. 
But we've got forsaken that's 

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coming. 
And we've got myth wind, that's 

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on our way. 
He's basically put them into 

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deep storage. 
Yeah, and play them in. 

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Well, you know what happened, 
right. 

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The pandemic a lot of game 
designers started focusing 

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because everyone was home but 
now we're now we're not locked 

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down anymore so and they're all 
starting to come in right. 

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There are starting to arrive at 
your door and Yeah, you know? 

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So the beauty is what we're 
thinking about although I don't 

404
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know they're going to do it, but
I tried to convince Katie, I was

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like, why don't we restart ISS 
Vanguard with two of our friends

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because it plays for crazy. 
No, it's not. 

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That's great because we now know
how it plays. 

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So it's like, now we can on 
Friday nights with the two guys,

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the four of us, because of clay,
and then, during the week, 

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Katie, and I could play, I See 
faryon guard. 

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That was the appeal to the game 
is that it's a one or two 

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player. 
Game Frost Haven is video other 

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group. 
So yes. 

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A statement another group. 
Okay, so to be fair, Frost Frost

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Haven, there's there's Katie and
I and three guys, two of which 

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are also in the Friday night 
group. 

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So there's some overlap. 
There's overlap. 

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It's a very small group but so 
yeah, a lot of campaign games. 

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Yeah. 
It's good news for us. 

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Is that we got mosaic Which I 
think you've got having you. 

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Yeah but I have the I have the 
middle version. 

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Yeah, we've got you have the you
have the Colossal have the 

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Sphinx. 
I believe it shipped. 

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There's something shipped from 
Game Quest over here so I think 

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there's come in Craig that is 
retail version. 

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Yeah, it's definitely available 
now and then only 12 weeks away 

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13th of Of may we have T.I 20 
Imperium day three lined up 

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already. 
So I think okay, everyone nearly

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is available. 
Okay? 

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So that would be from the will 
be fine. 

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It's a day after your birthday, 
he would seem No kidding. 

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No kidding. 
Sorry, check that out. 

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It is. 
It is not far away. 

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That is my birthday. 
It is not far nice. 

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Now maze. 
Really busy for us because we've

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got weddings, we've got as a 
Kings coronation the same 

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weekend. 
We've got. 

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So we were talking with some 
people at work and we're talking

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about doing a viewing party here
at work for valuation. 

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Yeah, I think my sister's 
wedding. 

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So I'm not sure how much that 
she going to see. 

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And then, okay, so you had 
Jenny's birthday, was you and 

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Carries birthday on Saturday 
which was gencon you and it was,

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would you say net International 
records day? 

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Yeah, that that moves, but it's 
always about this time of year, 

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okay? 
But then Sunday yesterday. 

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Right? 
Was Sir. 

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George day. 
Yes, which is big in your 

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country as yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, right. 
Yeah. 

451
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:20,500
But I'm big, I say big. 
There were a lot of posts. 

452
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Yeah, it is G. 
Yeah, yeah. 

453
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,500
People do celebrates it. 
So for our American and 

454
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:30,700
non-british listeners, what is 
what exactly is saying? 

455
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:32,500
George Daley? 
What's the significance? 

456
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:37,900
There, I've no idea you're 
asking me a question about I'm 

457
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:42,400
so sorry, I'm sorry from 
Wikipedia for you, patron. 

458
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,500
Saint of England. 
Okay, establishing Tudor period.

459
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200
Which is kind of like 1485 to 
1603. 

460
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:53,800
Yeah, let's go. 
Henry the summer and it's 

461
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observed in 23 countries around 
the world. 

462
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,400
Whoa, he's always loved 23rd of 
April. 

463
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Okay. 
And yeah, it's celebrating since

464
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,700
George, which is lots of read. 
So, I'd suggest like, I'm 

465
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,900
looking like only one wants. 
Nobody going to read about it on

466
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:16,300
Wikipedia, clearly, I'm not that
spun up on the The Saints days 

467
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:17,800
across the USA. 
Yeah. 

468
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,500
But it's so much it's more 
entertaining to hear it from 

469
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you. 
It's in, read it on Wikipedia, I

470
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,900
could, I could read a paragraph.
Maybe it's the other show I 

471
00:27:25,908 --> 00:27:28,300
could Ascend to show with a page
read out. 

472
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,900
There's a lot of history, I can 
imagine. 

473
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:37,800
Yeah, okay. 
We went to Winchester and then 

474
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,700
we played went for a Thai 
restaurant and we played love 

475
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,200
letter in the afternoon, so 
good. 

476
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,600
So good out and about and that 
was it, when they've got day off

477
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000
today and then the show goes out
tomorrow. 

478
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,300
So how about, since we're coming
to the end of the episode? 

479
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,700
How about a little Lagniappe? 
Are you okay with a little 

480
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:00,800
laying over it? 
What do you got? 

481
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,600
So last week was travel games, 
right? 

482
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:09,100
All right, so we picked up what 
I think and I posted something 

483
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:13,900
or I shared with you, the 
ultimate travel game. 

484
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,300
Just release this Friday in 
retail is azul mini. 

485
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:23,400
I saw looks red Keith's so it is
so it's your basic Azul. 

486
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,600
The beauty is that the player 
Matt have grids, it's a plastic 

487
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,700
grid and he's little sliding 
markers for you to keep your 

488
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,500
score. 
Keep track of your score. 

489
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,700
Tiles are smaller, you're still 
that quality and fake like? 

490
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:42,800
Yeah, there's a little 
indentation because when you 

491
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:50,200
they sit on your player Matt and
it's just very lovely, the box 

492
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,300
that the game comes in fits 
inside a cloth bag. 

493
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,800
With the Azul logo on the 
outside and has, you know, it's 

494
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,500
like a little tote bags and 
handle and that bag is what you 

495
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:05,100
use to put the tiles in as 
you're drawing them out, of 

496
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:09,600
course of the game. 
So every component of the game 

497
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:14,400
that makes it travel libel 
tribal, portable quotable better

498
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,300
word portable is incorporated 
into the game. 

499
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,500
So great design. 
Great game. 

500
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,800
Lots of fun. 
Did you, did you purchase it? 

501
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,700
We did. 
We did we bought it, we played 

502
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:26,300
it. 
How much the early on Saturday 

503
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:28,400
morning? 
20 U.S. 

504
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:32,100
Okay, that's okay. 
Oh, yeah, and a zul is a little 

505
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,800
bit more, you know, obviously is
more than 20 and so for $20, you

506
00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:39,600
could get a copy of his ou'll 
just a little bit smaller. 

507
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Yeah. 
I think it might sold our Rizzo.

508
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:48,300
Yeah, I may be a travel version 
would be quite like the idea of 

509
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:49,500
travel, cause it's quite nice 
game. 

510
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:53,200
Just again, back to small space 
on the table in a bus. 

511
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:55,500
Yep. 
Yeah. 

512
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,000
Sugar and, and the player Matt 
is plastic. 

513
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,700
It's completely encased in 
plastic. 

514
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:03,900
So, yeah, if you were to spill a
beer, yeah, that's something can

515
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,600
don't do that. 
But if you were to write it, how

516
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,200
many Has it helped you so for, 
okay, fool, ya 224. 

517
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:18,500
So I'll check it out. $20, that 
is your Lagniappe of the day. 

518
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:21,200
Ladies and gentlemen, it is. 
And that we are buying on the 

519
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,200
nose 330 minutes in. 
And with that action, we will 

520
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,200
say thank you PJ. 
It's been a pleasure carrying 

521
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,700
gencon with a J with you and I 
will speak to you again soon. 

522
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,100
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523
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524
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525
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