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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple, 
uniting players around the 

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world. 
A 30 minute exploration of TJ 

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and Gareth 4 game experiences 
from across both sides of the 

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Atlantic. 
Each episode they share their 

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thoughts and opinions on the 
world of board games, including 

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their favorite themes, games, 
hot topics, and much, much more.

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Hey, guys, and welcome to 
Episode 94. 

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Today we're going to talk about 
board games on vacation. 

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And why are we going to do that?
Because Gareth. 

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I'm. 
Back. 

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Come back, I've got a watch tan.
Look at that watch tan. 

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Really. 
PJ can see that, but. 

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Right. 
But guys, he got, he got a lot 

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of sun because I can tell that 
he was wearing a watch. 

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A watch, which is a foolish 
mistake, but after I kind of 

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realized that it was too late. 
So yes, 2. 

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Two weeks off 2. 
Weeks, boy, it feels. 

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It feels longer, doesn't it? 
I think, I think, yeah, yeah, 

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it's 1-2. 
Yeah, it's three weeks. 

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So in your absence, we've had 
Hannah and Alex on the show. 

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We had things. 
We had Danielle Reynolds and 

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Kristen Mott filled in for you. 
That was an interesting 

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conversation. 
Like game store now it's not not

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available. 
Still still waiting for it. 

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So we've had a lot of, we've had
a lot of people on the show. 

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But yeah, it's been 2 weeks 
because the Gen. 

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Con recap, You were with us for 
that. 

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And I think we recorded that, 
you see, slightly earlier we did

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because of we were flying 
around. 

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So that's right. 
But yes, I'm back. 

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I am. 
I completely switched off of 

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work for two weeks. 
I didn't have any contact with 

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anyone. 
I sat on the sun bed and I think

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my earliest beer was 10:30 in 
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Decided that 10:30 half past 
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That's great. 
And I had ice creams and, and 

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yeah, I didn't. 
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apart from just chill. 
So we had 10 days in Greece. 

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I think the average temperature 
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The hottest, it felt like was 
51, which I'm always that day 

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was rather uncomfortable. 
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was a nice breeze, Played games,
hang out with the family, you 

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know, holiday stuff. 
And so you're on vacation and 

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I'm, like, hustling to promote 
the podcasts and Gen. 

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Con and Gen. 
Con made a bunch of contacts, 

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sending out emails, lining up 
interviews. 

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In fact, it's like I felt really
bad because I was, like, sending

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you emails and like, OK, the 
next 10 episodes, it's like, we 

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have a schedule. 
We actually have a schedule. 

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Like the next time, too busy, 
too busy to even read this right

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now. 
I haven't even had my diary 

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open. 
So I was like, I can't even see 

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what's in. 
I'd spend all of my Diaries off.

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I was not being brought into the
world. 

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But but yeah, games on vacation.
I mean, so because we have two 

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adult, well, practically adult 
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suitcase. 
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kids didn't need much. 
So in the Kira suitcase was half

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empty and I went, well, half 
empty space. 

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We might as well fill it with 
ball games. 

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So I think we took about 20. 
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about taking a full size, you 
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game. 
Not just, you know, small game, 

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but the largest game we took, 
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was Targi, which is a kind of 
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by 10 box. 
Something like that. 

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So, yeah, so we took about 20 
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tin tin games that we've talked 
about before to some of the Oink

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classics. 
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ones who played to Yeah, I mean,
they're all generally small box.

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We had some of those, I don't 
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condense their travel games and 
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boxes. 
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We do the. 
Same thing worth checking out. 

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So you just, I mean, Google it, 
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case on on Amazon. 
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holds, I'm going to say 16 or so
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And there's even a website 
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the board games to print in. 
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so. 
Let me ask, can I let me ask you

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a question before you get into 
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So you're packing, you're going 
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So you, you, you, when you 
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What are your priorities? 
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mean? 
Like, why do you choose one game

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over another? 
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vacation. 
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Evenings, some people would ask 
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play games. 
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Carrie. 
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So I think I thought through 
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want to play games, right and 
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really. 
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so that's why Targhee came in 
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what's a small game that's 
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not a massive table hog and he's
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But then I was like what happens
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friends, we'll get ball game 
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So I was like, we'd better take 
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play to 8. 
Wow, you know, never know. 

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Do you? 
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was like, OK, we we better take 
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case we find some ball game 
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Then I will yes, I'm going to 
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myself to come back to a point 
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to play. 
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some games that she obviously 
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Although I thought what happens 
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and I'm just me and I'm just 
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So then I thought I'd better 
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So you can see if you see 
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a suitcase is half empty. 
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And we're talking a large 
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it's one the check in. 
I know. 

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So yeah, we had a mixture of 
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player, four player, but mostly 
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mark was what what I aimed for 
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evenings. 
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they're older now, they probably
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friends and go off. 
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likely to hang out with us when 
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the kids were small, they'd be, 
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the kids would be playing with 
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And me and Carrie would just 
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So. 
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So when Katie, when Katie and I 
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conference or I mean gaming 
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Gen. 
Con, right, it's like we usually

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just bring one game because we 
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we're going to buy games, we're 
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going to play games with our 
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So we don't bring a lot of them.
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vacation, work conferences, we 
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player games, something that's 
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And then inevitably what 
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We never, we never play anything
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The only game we've ever had any
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Letter. 
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We'll play love letter, the two 
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table. 
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got all their games on our on 
our phones, you know, to get 

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there really terrifying Mars, 
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with his family. 
And then you started posting 

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pictures of game Joe we're 
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And I think you commented to me 
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plays games on vacation. 
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And and like, so we had 
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competitive, but Dylan and Kira 
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I think Kira won the most games,
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Carrie. 
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Dylan really enjoyed 
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trio. 
Have not. 

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So that that was played 23 times
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Wow, so that was the. 
Most played game, which is a I 

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think it's two to six player, I 
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cards split out and then some 
cards go in the middle depending

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how many players they are and 
you need to basically find sets 

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of three. 
But you can only ever say what's

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your highest or lowest card in 
someone's hands and then use a 

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memory game of actually I saw 
three right did Peach ever 

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three? 
Have you got three? 

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Yeah, OK found the next three if
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So it became really competitive 
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every nearly every night when we
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I think because it's such an 
easy game. 

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I think Dylan noise sinks looks 
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room and there's some, you know,
table hog with many pieces. 

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But this was I mean, I taught, 
you know, the rules are I pretty

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much taught the rules to you. 
Then it's quick to play and the 

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the round lasts maybe 5 minutes,
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So you win and it's go again and
go again and go again. 

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So yeah, trio. 
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found recommend that to me at 
their house a while ago and that

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does travel to work. 
That's another one that it's a 

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small box. 
It's only like I'm going to say,

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well, it's got a box of cards. 
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inches. 
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all of us. 
We did have a couple of three 

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player games when Dylan wasn't 
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then the next most played game 
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Really. 
Azul Travel, Yeah. 

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That's a good one. 
Which it? 

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Just it just does pack down 
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So we played that usually once 
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of the holiday. 
But again, that's that's 

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probably a box. 
I wouldn't back to your point 

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around you didn't take one or 
two games. 

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If we were just going away 
normally and we didn't have so 

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much luggage space, that would 
probably not have got in the box

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or might be the only thing we 
would take down with us the did.

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You did you bring the canvas bag
for a Zool Travel or did you 

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just bring it in the box we 
bought? 

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In the in the normal box, in its
cardboard box. 

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OK, we did. 
Yeah, we did. 

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When we sat there, Carrie goes, 
Oh yeah, maybe we should put it 

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in it's canvas bag. 
But we had, again, we had ample 

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space. 
OK. 

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So yeah, that got thrown in. 
We did see when we went from our

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apartment down to dinner on the 
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Yeah. 
Because carrying games is like, 

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I mean, I don't really want to 
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So I was like, what have we got?
Damn. 

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I haven't bought a game bag with
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I haven't bought, you know, 
didn't have any carrier bags. 

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Like, so it's like, what have 
you got? 

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And Dylan's got like a over the 
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Messenger bag or. 
Half of that, like the ones that

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have slung over their shoulders 
and they're sure. 

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So it's like, right, OK, Dylan, 
need your bag. 

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No, you don't need my bag. 
So anyway, so that bag became 

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the board, the board game bag. 
So apart from a zoo, actually 

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you get three or four games in 
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So there's another top tip 
travelling, obviously, if you're

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going to dinner or you're not 
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which it was only like probably 
a 5 minute walk, but I didn't 

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really want to go back to to the
room to get right to get stuff. 

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So yeah, so we so every night 
the character games around in 

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that and that allowed us to pack
in that copy trio. 

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Some of the little tin games. 
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took out-of-the-box and just 
left inside the bag because it's

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just a pack of cards and they're
all sleeved. 

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So need. 
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with drinks flowing and 
cocktails and sticky tables. 

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One of the games that has been 
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Works, which I think I've talked
about before on the show, which 

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is one of those tin tin games. 
Mint. 

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Works, so it's. 
If you really want a small tin, 

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I mean, again, it's it's a, you 
know, mint tin box size, like a 

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placement game that plays really
well at two or three or four. 

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Check out Mintworks. 
I assume it's still available. 

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It was a kickstart years ago, 
but that game got to play and 

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everyone enjoyed that. 
Obviously Love letter came out. 

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What else do we play? 
Sunny Day, Sardines. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know that one but I saw 

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you post about that. 
Yes. 

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That, that back in the early 
Instagram days, there's the 

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account called board game 
Renegade and they they're not so

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busy on Instagram now sometimes,
but they went off and produced a

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game on. 
I'm going to say that two or 

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three maybe just after lockdown.
I'm going to get the account 

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details. 
And anyways, it's a game about 

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catching sardines in a tin. 
So it's got a set of cards. 

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You put the card at the table 
and it's basically set 

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collection. 
But it's it's a really nice 

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intro to mechanic of set 
collection. 

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So it's been, yeah, it's been, 
that's been in a few trips with 

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us. 
So that's a nice little one. 

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So earlier in the conversation 
you had mentioned that you had 

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an observation that you made. 
Yeah, yeah, Uno. 

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I, I mean, so obviously she was,
everyone plays games on holiday.

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So I know I've noticed that. 
I've seen that before that this 

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holiday, if I sat out after 
dinner, every table I looked at 

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was playing a game. 
But it was always Uno. 

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It. 
Will be 80% Uno and then 

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there'll be people playing cards
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Uno. 
And then we did see a group of 

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people playing Whits and Wages, 
which was the closest I think we

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saw. 
No, we saw a couple of people 

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playing some. 
Is it cat cafe? 

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It's a, it's a rolling right Cat
cafe. 

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Oh, do you remember it a couple 
of years ago? 

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OK, sort of. 
I don't you. 

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Know we saw some people but 
yeah, I was like man, if you 

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could create one game you find a
way to to kill Uno or not kill 

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Uno but take some of that market
share what about. 

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What are your thoughts on 
multiple questions? 

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What are your thoughts on? 
Do you have a copy? 

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Did you bring it with you is 
Scout? 

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So we took Scout with us. 
You did, yeah. 

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And we played that. 
That was our third most played 

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game. 
OK. 

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And I that's that's probably 
what I thought Dylan would 

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possibly not enjoy because it is
a bit more, you know, you've got

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cards you got. 
Anyway, he loved it as well. 

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So so it was say it was good is 
that we all had time with the 

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family and everyone played 
games. 

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So you're sitting out on this 
balcony or this patio or 

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wherever this is where people 
are playing Uno and whatnot. 

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Did any strangers see you 
playing games and come up and 

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ask you a couple questions? 
What do you plan? 

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Can you did you make did you 
make any new friends? 

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No, no, no, which I thought so. 
So I'd say the complex was 40% 

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English, 4% German, and then 20%
mix of probably Spanish and 

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French. 
But I thought because it was 

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heavily German English, I 
thought that's maybe why there's

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some more people playing things 
like Wits and wages and some 

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more more popular games just 
because of how strong ball 

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gaming is in Germany. 
But yeah, I thought in the UK 

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you people would come up and ask
questions, right? 

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But I don't know whether it's a 
language thing or people would 

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just were doing their own 
business. 

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That's fair. 
So yeah, so we did have to. 

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So we did take what's the horse 
racing, rolling right dice. 

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Oh my. 
Honestly. 

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There's a couple of rolling 
horse racing games. 

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Anyway, that's the one I took. 
It plays up to 8. 

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OK. 
But we did. 

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We didn't need it. 
Didn't. 

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Need it had. 
Skull King. 

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So Skull King we played a couple
of times. 

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That was the one that was like, 
that's relatively easy. 

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Yeah, trick taking game. 
I think it plays up to six or 

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does it play eight? 
I can't remember now, but that 

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was in the box. 
But you know, I I thought we we 

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we people did look over and see 
that we were playing, you know, 

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not Uno, right, but people just 
love Uno and like love Uno and 

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we'll play it for hours and 
hours less to care is like, man,

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if I could just find. 
I mean it's I do domination in 

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that market must be at ninety 
9598%. 

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Every shop I went to there's a 
copy of Uno that is a big brand.

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I I guess people have tried to, 
you know, break in, you know, 

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exploding kittens, anything 
where there's cards, but it's. 

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True it. 
Was. 

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I hadn't realized how many 
variants of Uno there are. 

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Every IP that you can think of. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, I know We have a we have 
Star Trek Uno. 

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Yeah, Yeah, it's the, it's the 
only Uno that we have. 

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And it's only because it's Star 
Trek, you know? 

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But yeah, no, I hear you. 
So, so yeah. 

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So everyone, I guess in 
evenings, in hotels, I guess 

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what you do. 
So yeah, yeah, play games. 

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So it was lovely to see so many 
people enjoying playing games. 

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But everyone plays Uno, so maybe
I need to stand up and teach 

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some lessons on, you know, come 
and play these different games 

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or we need to need to set up a 
you need to set up a stand. 

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There's an idea in hotels. 
With a selection. 

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Of games on it I feel like. 
Trio and Scout kind of people 

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who only know Uno or gravitate 
towards Uno. 

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Scout and trio would be games 
that they would naturally I. 

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Think Trio. 
Trio's the one that I thought 

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that's the one where people did 
look over because it's just a 

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hand of cards and it's it's 
done, it's quick. 

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We played slide to the news did.
You play slide. 

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I cannot find. 
I can't find slide. 

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Yeah. 
Isn't it? 

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Yeah, but it's Hachette as well,
so I know. 

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I. 
Know. 

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So oh, see. 
Salt and paper was the other 

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one. 
Oh. 

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That's a good game. 
Yeah. 

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Oh, that's so good. 
We take that with us every time 

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because it it's so small and 
compact, but then we never play.

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So all all I mean, another game 
was out of the wallet series 

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Tootsie Moosie, which is we 
played just played two player, 

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me and Harry played it when the 
kids went off somewhere. 

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So yeah. 
So I think, yeah, I think, I 

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think what? 
What didn't we play? 

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So I didn't play any solo games.
That's a win. 

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So I took some wallet games. 
We didn't play Targhee, which 

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would I say, say the biggest 
box. 

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And then there was a couple of 
rolling rights we didn't play 

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again, that maybe it's just too 
much admin. 

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It did get really windy over 
about four days of the holiday 

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in the evenings. 
So we actually didn't play as 

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much because we wanted to sit 
outside because it's so warm. 

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Right. 
And you weren't, you were on an 

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an island in the Aegean. 
You weren't on the great 

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mainland. 
Yeah, in Coast. 

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Yeah, in Coast. 
So, so naturally there was a, 

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you know, breeze off the sea. 
Yeah, I mean, but only it's like

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4 days recently it was always 
still, but for four days. 

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We we then went inside and 
played inside because we wanted 

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to play some car games. 
But yeah, you can take your 

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board game collection with you 
pretty much just take kids who 

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don't need many clothes. 
What would you need? 

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Shorts, T-shirt, flip flops. 
I guess, yeah. 

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That's it I guess. 
I guess so, yeah. 

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Was there a laundry facility 
where you were staying? 

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Like, yeah. 
Yeah, I did have to again. 

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I mean, I just took enough 
T-shirts. 

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We're only there for 10 days, 
so. 

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Because that, that, that's some 
really warm temperatures. 

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Yeah, yeah, I mean mostly though
in like in the pool, in the sea.

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So, yeah, but we were very much 
in the daytime, did wander into 

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a local town. 
Yeah. 

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To see whether I could find any.
You know, you never know what 

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you find so much stiff out a 
ball game or two, but true. 

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No, no, I just found packets of 
Uno. 

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Oh, and chess of course, you 
know, chess made out of, you 

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know, sets of chess you find in 
all shops. 

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So yeah, no, no game shop. 
I did find there was a there was

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a game shop in Cos, but it was 
in Cos town. 

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We didn't do any like 
excursions. 

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We were having a chill out time 
so we didn't end up there 

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because you. 
Didn't leave the island, did 

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you? 
No. 

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No, no, we went out on boats but
didn't leave. 

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We didn't go to anywhere else. 
This holiday was supposed to be 

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no stress, literally just get 
up, chill out because if you 

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have excursions, you've got to 
get somewhere. 

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Then you've got coaches 
everywhere. 

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So we just like, we're just 
going to go and chill. 

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So yeah, most days, you know, 
what was really, what was really

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nice was there was no sunbed 
wars. 

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You know, I mean by sunbed, 
Sunbed wars. 

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People get up early sunbed. 
Sunbed. 

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Sunbed Wars. 
Sunbed Wars? 

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I don't. 
I'm not familiar with that term.

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Some holiday holiday 
destinations, obviously there's 

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X amount of sunbeds around the 
pool, so people get up at 5:30 

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or even earlier to go and claim 
their sun beds. 

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And it's one of the things that 
really puts me off holidays is 

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like, I don't want to have to 
get up at 5:30 right to to then 

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not have anywhere. 
I have to get up 5:30 to have 

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somewhere to sit. 
Because if I get up at normal 

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time and rock up at, you know, 
8:30, nine o'clock. 

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Oh, look, nowhere to sit. 
This is really fun, isn't it? 

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So it's those things I was like,
Oh, please don't be some bed 

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wars. 
So first day we didn't arrive to

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1:00 in the morning, so we went 
to bed to go up about 7:30, 

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wandered down and went look at 
all this space. 

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This is how my life should be. 
So even at 10:00 the sun beds 

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were available. 
I. 

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Agree that. 
Is how life so there was no 

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stress at all. 
It's likely to put the towels 

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down, have some food, chill out,
have a beer. 

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Yeah. 10:00 AM Yeah. 
Play 10:30, 10/30, 10:10 AM is a

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little bit early, but 1030, OK. 
1030, yeah. 

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That was only one day when I was
feeling particularly thirsty 

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because it was quite warm and I 
was like that. 

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It's fine. 
So yeah. 

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And then yeah, just play games. 
So how about? 

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How about local beers? 
Were there any local SO? 

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We were drinking Mythos OK, like
the Greek beer, which is very, 

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very nice. 
I will get some. 

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I was wondering if there was a 
local brew on the island of 

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course. 
I don't know, OK, I don't know. 

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There might have been. 
They're the only things really 

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available unless you're buying 
bottles. 

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But that became branded, right, 
you know, by Wiser and. 

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Sure. 
San Miguel, those kind of 

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things, so. 
You were so relaxed, the one 

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because I I try to not bother 
you much. 

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You're on your vacation, right? 
And but I'd like to check in, 

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see how things were going. 
And you were so relaxed you 

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didn't want to come home. 
Oh yeah, I'd worked at my 

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retirement plan. 
You. 

445
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Did Yeah. 
You were going to open up a 

446
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board game cafe? 
Yeah. 

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And then you were going to hire 
me so I could quit my job and 

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move over. 
And we were. 

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Just going to hang out. 
And yeah, so I was just looking.

450
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,520
So we went to in the town, but 
we went there twice over the 10 

451
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,480
days. 
And then we just went to like a 

452
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,120
Tavern, you know, the bar. 
Yeah. 

453
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,040
And it was owned by an English 
lady who'd been out there for I 

454
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,520
think kids are grown up now. 
So I think maybe 10-15 years. 

455
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,920
But it's, it is the seasons like
from early May right through to 

456
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520
sort of end of September. 
So it's six months on. 

457
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600
But when it's on, it's you're up
at 5-6 and you're going to bed 

458
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,880
probably at midnight. 
So you are working and then 

459
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,040
you've got six months of, you 
know, nicer weather, as in not 

460
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,920
to hot weather, right? 
But, you know, very little 

461
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,880
business. 
I think the planes actually stop

462
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,600
arriving as in the tourist 
planes. 

463
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,600
And then I spoke to another, 
like a really nice olive wood 

464
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040
souvenir shop, and that was 
owned by English and who'd been 

465
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,600
there 14 years. 
And OK, that's a pretty nice 

466
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,040
life, you know, she said. 
You know, it gets busy, but 

467
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,600
weather's lovely. 
It's lovely when everyone goes 

468
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920
away and it got six months of it
being cooler with a bit of rain.

469
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,960
I was like, well, maybe, But is 
is Cos does Cos need a board 

470
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,320
game? 
Cafe somewhere does. 

471
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Yes, I'm trying to. 
Work out a board game cafe or 

472
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,000
just a bar that happens to have 
board games. 

473
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,400
But would people want to play in
the heat? 

474
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,120
Probably not, but maybe locals. 
Maybe locals, I don't know. 

475
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,480
By the way, I decided that I 
quite liked the temperature. 

476
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Sure. 
I mean, who doesn't the? 

477
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,760
The only danger was fire. 
So we had there was a fire on 

478
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,200
the island about 3 before we got
there and then we went out for 

479
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,480
an hour or two with the local 
like speedboat who just took us 

480
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,520
this us out as a family and I 
was chatting to him and he 

481
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,960
showed me photographs of just 
behind the hotel was all on fire

482
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040
only six weeks ago. 
So we talked about how 

483
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,680
devastating that has been and 
how quickly it spreads. 

484
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,360
And then actually when I went 
back to hotel and looked 

485
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,520
actually what I thought was just
mounting, actually you could 

486
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,200
start. 
You could see the char, the char

487
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,920
marks from, from, from, but it 
without realising there being 

488
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,160
fire there. 
It just looked like it was 

489
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,160
scrub. 
So that was yeah. 

490
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,880
So they do get do get fires. 
Obviously it is so hot now. 

491
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,640
It's a real thing, I. 
Mean and obviously our friends 

492
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,400
George from boundary Stow games 
he's Greek so they were out 

493
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,320
there that's. 
Right. 

494
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,440
Not just. 
No, because like they were on 

495
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,480
the mainlands or I think the 
mainlands, but they, they 

496
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,120
commented how hot it was, like 
how much climate change or, you 

497
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,640
know, this, it's so much hotter 
now than when he grew up. 

498
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,680
So yeah, it was it. 
Yeah. 

499
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Yeah, I guess that's one of the 
problems. 

500
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,200
It's the fire fireside of 
things. 

501
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,600
But it was lovely time and we've
got 10, we've got 10 episodes 

502
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,920
lined up, haven't you? 
I think you've worked. 

503
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Is it 10/8? 
So. 

504
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720
This is 100 though. 
This is episode 94. 

505
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,120
I've got us for the next 5 
episodes and then we'll do. 

506
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:23,640
Something got us to 100. 
That's good, so. 

507
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600
That's that's kind of the plan 
there. 

508
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,000
So unfortunately, I'm sitting, 
I'm sitting here while you're 

509
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,560
talking and I'm trying to find a
game to do my voice over, but I 

510
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,720
didn't prepare one. 
But I would like to tell our 

511
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,680
listeners, our guests, Hannah 
and Alex were in fact correct. 

512
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,800
Last week's episode of the voice
over was in fact deadly 

513
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,880
Dowagers. 
So, So that is the game that I 

514
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,960
read from and I don't have one 
in arms reach. 

515
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,800
I. 
Was trying to find find one 

516
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,480
from. 
I would love to. 

517
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
If I would have. 
Yeah, I was actually thinking 

518
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,800
about from the games you played 
on vacation, which would have 

519
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,840
been really cool. 
But I also like the mystery of 

520
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,640
trying to trying to stump 
Gareth. 

521
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,360
So, you know, that's a thing I'm
trying to. 

522
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,200
Find one out of my list and 
there's none that they're so 

523
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320
obvious. 
Yeah, they are. 

524
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040
They're obvious. 
Well, it's interesting that Alex

525
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,240
got it right away only because 
she had recently did a review 

526
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080
that was an interesting 
conversation where we talked 

527
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,120
about the review circle in the 
UK. 

528
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

529
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480
Yeah, I was really interested in
that. 

530
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,520
There's a really nice post from 
Jamie Stegmer in his blog about 

531
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,000
that group. 
I think it's about 50 plus of 

532
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,400
them. 
Now. 

533
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,680
I'm not part of the circle 
because I haven't got the time 

534
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,440
to commit to it, but quite a few
of the Southampton Ball Game 

535
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,240
group are in it. 
It works really well because you

536
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560
can just choose what you want 
and you pass it on, you play it 

537
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,680
and it gives publishers that 
ability to know they've got a 

538
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,520
circle of up to let's say 50 
people where you're not. 

539
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520
You haven't got the cost of 
shipping, you know, You're 

540
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,800
shipping it once and then it 
flows and Torah organises, you 

541
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,480
know, ball game, ball game fo 
favorite fo, favorite fo Yep, 

542
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,000
organises that. 
So if you are in the UK, do 

543
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,200
reach out. 
You find Tor on Instagram or her

544
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,400
website OK? 
Or going. 

545
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Or only Jamie's interview? 
Oh. 

546
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah, so. 

547
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
I've got a I've got a voice over
real quick and we'll see if you 

548
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,840
can guess it. 
So here we go. 

549
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000
The beautiful pieces of glass 
that can be found along the 

550
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,000
river here have attracted the 
most entrepreneurial woodland 

551
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,920
creatures to set up shop. 
In this game, you play as one of

552
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,960
these pioneers, drafting glass 
from the market of river tiles. 

553
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,560
To do so, you have to play a 
piece from your inventory into 

554
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,440
the river. 
Each river tile can take only a 

555
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,680
specific shape, and you must 
play into a space adjacent to 

556
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,680
where you want to draft. 
After you pick up your glass, 

557
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,640
the river shifts forward, 
revealing new pieces and new 

558
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400
opportunities. 
Store the glass you pick up 

559
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760
strategically in your shop. 
Depending on how the glass are 

560
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,760
placed, your score will change 
drastically. 

561
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Fill in rows and columns for 
more points and come to victory.

562
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Any idea? 
I know what. 

563
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440
That is because you showed me 
the box. 

564
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,320
Yeah, about an hour ago it did. 
I was like, this is only the 

565
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,360
game that I had to go back and 
look at my feed thinking, I'm 

566
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
sure this is a game that you 
only showed me a picture of. 

567
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,280
I did. 
So let's see whether our 

568
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,040
listeners can guess. 
Can. 

569
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Guess what it. 
Is so. 

570
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080
Here's what I'm going to here's 
what I'm going to say to our 

571
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,120
listeners because we I have 
never gotten a message with 

572
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,040
someone giving us their guests 
either on Instagram, my page or 

573
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,640
the meeple to meeple page. 
If you wait to binge these 

574
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
episodes, you're just going to 
get the answer. 

575
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
The what? 
You're going to get is people 

576
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,480
who binge it, but they binge it 
like in about 3 months time 

577
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,480
you're going to get a random 
game, total game. 

578
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,760
What's this person on about? 
Makes no sense again. 

579
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,440
They've just listened to episode
94. 

580
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,360
Yeah. 
So there you go. 

581
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,200
So those are board games on 
vacation. 

582
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Gareth, I'm glad you're back. 
Excuse. 

583
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Me back back to work tomorrow 
boom our. 

584
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,400
Our bank holiday is next Monday.
Oh, is. 

585
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,160
It for. 
Labor Day. 

586
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320
OK. 
Because I know you've got a bank

587
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,640
holiday this week. 
That's. 

588
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Today, yes, yeah, which is 
convenient and like uni's got to

589
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,680
work, don't you? 
Because like, this is really 

590
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,720
early for you for a Monday, yes.
So we've done things a little 

591
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,520
bit differently today in 
recording. 

592
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,920
It is 6:30 in the morning. 
I've been up since 5:00 AM It's 

593
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360
lunchtime there in the UK That's
just kind of how it worked out. 

594
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880
So yeah. 
Yeah, usually I I take the hit 

595
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,040
and do the lake show. 
So you've got the air doors. 

596
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
So you guys enjoy work. 
Oh yeah. 

597
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,800
I hope guys has enjoyed our a a 
a discussion on games on 

598
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360
holiday. 
And if you haven't got, you 

599
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:32,400
know, then you're missing out. 
Uno, bye, bye. 

600
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Have a good, have a good one. 
Thanks everyone for listening. 

601
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,120
Thanks everyone for listening, 
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602
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,120
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603
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604
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,000
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