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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple 
uniting players around the 

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world, a 30 minute exploration 
of PJ and Gareth's four-game 

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experiences from across both 
sides of the Atlantic. 

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Each episode, they share their 
thoughts and opinions on the 

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World of War games, including 
their favorite themes, games, 

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hot topics, and much, much more.
Merry Christmas everyone, and 

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welcome to Episode 63, Jingle 
Bells. 

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Jingle Bells, Jingle All the 
Way, and we are going to talk 

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about games that we've recently 
played and what we're going to 

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play this upcoming Christmas 
weekend. 

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As always, I'm. 
PJ I'm Gareth. 

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And we are so happy to be with 
you. 

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It's been a few weeks off. 
Gareth, how are you? 

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It's. 
Like an early Christmas holiday,

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didn't we? 
Hi, I know. 

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And and and now we're back 
before Christmas with It's like 

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a countdown to Christmas, I 
mean. 

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Countdown to Christmas. 
If you're listening this week, 

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it's only a few days to go. 
That's. 

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Right. 
Until Santa arrives with his 

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sleigh, hopefully bringing all 
our listeners all the games they

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could possibly not need. 
But unfortunately, I've been a 

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bad boy and Santa will not be 
bringing me any games this year.

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Why I was I did not watch my PS 
and QS this year. 

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PJ. 
Yeah, I know. 

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Luckily I have a wife who's also
a gamer and we just bought a 

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bunch of games and just kind of 
put a bow on them and put them 

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under the tree. 
And that's what we're playing 

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Christmas. 
Weekend. 

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Yeah, I must admit I kind of 
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bought some games I needed and 
went Happy Christmas. 

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But anyway, I thought we should 
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I mean, we haven't talked. 
We just do like what we're up 

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to. 
What's hitting the games table 

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kind of show so? 
I want to tell you what 

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happened, what hit my table 
yesterday? 

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Go. 
And it totally fits this theme. 

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So yesterday our gaming group 
got back together and we visited

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an outpost to the far north 
Frost Haven. 

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Oh, how long has that been? 
Was that? 

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That's been a couple, actually, 
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life's been in the way. 
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that our group played Frost 
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But here's the beauty, here's 
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We played Christmas Frost Haven.
OK, is that oh, this is of some 

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DJ? 
Yes, so. 

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House Rule. 
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rule. 
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So we took the crocheted Santa 
hats that my wife from Nemesis. 

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From Nemesis from last year. 
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And we put them on our 
miniatures and we went to Frost 

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Haven and all the scenarios our 
characters were wearing Santa 

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hats. 
We tried to wrap the scarf but 

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the scarf was too long, like my 
miniature was completely wrapped

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in a scarf. 
But this is warm, yeah? 

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But the Algox looks amazing 
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looks like he looks like Snow 
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For those of you who know here 
without Santa Claus, the you 

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know what is it? 
Rankin and Bass from the 70s. 

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Heat Miser and Snow Miser. 
He looks like Snow Miser and you

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put a Santa had on him, just 
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We played two really intense 
scenarios and it was really cool

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and I think we were successful 
because the spirit of Christmas 

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is so. 
That's how far through you, how 

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is that? 
Man, we. 

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Even even dented it, it's still 
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So I don't know, different 
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Frost Haven differently. 
Yeah, we're about 25 or 26 

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scenarios completed and we have 
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unlock. 
So it's 25 to 30%, let's say 

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maybe? 
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typically every other Saturday 
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And so you got a. 
Goodyear. 

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maybe. 
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So yeah, Christmas Frost Haven 
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How about you? 
Would you hit what you've been 

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playing recently? 
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I only played this once, but I 
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Robots, which was Raising 
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that shipped, I think maybe even
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It's see a mixture of so it's 
got a bit of wingspan feel to it

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and other good space engine, an 
engine builder tableau up to six

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players, everyone plays at the 
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You're going to play a board a 
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think about it and you're like 
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robots and as you add the robots
to your boards they basically 

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build your engine. 
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you can trigger everything. 
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So your resource gathering it's 
got a clever mechanic that you 

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get these two energy cards to 
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They might have four energy or 
two energy and sometimes you add

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energy cubes to the the overall 
board and then you add up your 

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energy and then that's how much 
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But there's I think there's five
different actions but you can 

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obviously only do two of them a 
turn unless other people power 

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it up and you can use their 
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So it's just kind of like what 
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going to do in a two player 
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There's a there's the third 
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works really well, Low Admin. 
Really. 

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Really good two player I 
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Wasn't sure Oh no there's a 
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There's a third player bolt on 
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worked really well. 
So yeah we played last night for

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the first time. 
I'm itching the player a game 

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about 3.25 production is 
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The art is fantastic and you 
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tablet builder so it's just 
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So yeah that that's that's, 
that's very recent. 

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Worth checking out. 
I think it's going to be popular

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for next year. 
So that's that's kind of our 

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recent plays and keeping with 
the theme of this episode, a 

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countdown to Christmas. 
So we want to talk about just a 

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few games that we're going to 
play this week leading up to and

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really the highlight, at least 
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Christmas weekend, the 22nd to 
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definitely over Christmas 
weekend is what are we going to 

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play and what's going to hit 
your table? 

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Do you have anything planned 
that you're definitely going to 

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play? 
And say definitely want to play,

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need to play. 
So if anybody is on Board Game 

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Geek every year they do a Secret
Santa, which is like one of my 

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favorite parts of Board Game 
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So I was very lucky this year to
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Send me the Ticket A Ride. 
Legacy Legend. 

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No. 
Happy days. 

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So I'm going to try and play my 
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So I'm trying to get Carrie and 
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we're going to get 5 players all
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So I'm just going to go for the 
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it. 
I hear really good reviews, so I

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hear some not so good views on 
the game, but I think we're kind

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of medium fans of ticket to 
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Like we like a good game. 
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and builds, so that's Ticket to 
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that I don't know when we're 
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become the tradition is we need 
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Oh yeah, the dates are loose 
because everyone's so busy with 

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work. 
I am now on holiday for two 

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weeks so I have time to play 
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So anyone in the Southampton 
crew, anybody else wants to hang

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out, just shout. 
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have time to come and visit. 
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Time to not fly to America, but 
maybe we could get a gaming 

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online. 
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We need to do that. 
Have you got all the new Rolling

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Realms packs? 
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maybe we should work through 
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Those I opened to look at them. 
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I haven't. 
Played them yet? 

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We can definitely do that. 
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friends in the UK that maybe we 
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We could do a rolling realms 
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I've just not in that down to 
plan and what have you got 

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planned for Christmas? 
So we also, my wife and I picked

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up Ticket to Ride Legacy. 
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And rather than wrap it, we put 
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tree. 
We might try to start playing it

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this Christmas. 
Weekend two player or you can 

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play it, yeah. 
No, we're just playing two 

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player because our group has 
Frost Haven and that's a big 

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campaign. 
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that And so we're just going to 
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see what's what. 
Although the other one is we did

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pick up after listening to you 
news about this game for so long

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and I was salivating at trying 
to find a copy of it and that is

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Darwin's journey. 
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We bought it in November at a 
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and we got the expansion as 
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Or. 
Finance. 

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Yes, OK, put it under the tree 
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a go this this time of the 
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It just sounds amazing. 
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It was last Friday again. 
It's so good. 

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It's we went back to the the the
base game which to me is the 

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lighter version OK if you're 
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The I think the full game is 
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OK. 
It feels that that that was the 

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IT but it's there's so much 
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into what is the core box but. 
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the core get well because we've 
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Just. 
But you're like a pro gamer. 

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You're funny. 
Easy. 

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All right, You give me more 
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Think. 
No, seriously, no. 

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Start. 
Start with the base game. 

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Start with the base game. 
And then go all the way. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
The base game is Yeah. 

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If no one, no one has tried out 
Darwin's journey. 

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It's a bit of a beast to teach. 
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But it just sings, flies along. 
It's so well connected. 

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Oh, you can't do anything 
perfect. 

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Game and then I guess the 
immediately the week, the week 

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of Christmas. 
So the 25th between Christmas 

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and New Year's we're going to be
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We've arranged to drive down to 
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We're going to meet with our 
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It's games with Ben on Instagram
and we're going to meet up with 

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him at the Capstone games store.
So they were brick and mortar 

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store. 
They're based out of Cincinnati 

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and hopefully we'll get in a 
game with him and it will 

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probably be something from 
Capstone, maybe Arc Nova, which 

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would be. 
Great. 

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He played Arc Nova camp, not a 
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Con this year. 
I think he got knocked out in 

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the first or the second round, 
but we'll try to play some Arc 

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Nova with the Marine worlds. 
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That would be cool. 
So that's kind of, that's kind 

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of our immediate Christmas 
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Right now I've just got. 
Anything else, just just. 

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Back a lot of games over the 
last month and we haven't, we 

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haven't seen our gaming group. 
I think for two months. 

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Work's been really heavy. 
I mean away every week. 

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So there's a pile of games in 
Shrink before Christmas that I 

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need to work through. 
And then there's the whatever 

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people decide to, you know, add 
to the collection over 

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Christmas. 
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What are the games we've been 
playing? 

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Oh, I tell you my favorite. 
Flip and write. 

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You know, flip and write, roll 
and write. 

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This year is Flip Town. 
Flip. 

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Town Town so you're a cowboy. 
In the West it's like you know 

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in the Wild West you it's you've
got a standard deck of cards and

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then some nice player boards and
plays across 3 rounds, 5 turns 

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per round. 
So 1515, I guess overall turns. 

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Each round you flip over three 
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the cards it is where well, so 
when the suits, you'll choose to

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to the trail or to go and rob 
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you're going to visit a town and
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decide whether it's a chicken, 
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the mine, and the remaining 
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hands at the end of the first 
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There's five cards to build, 
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hand, but it it has this element
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You go, wow, this is 
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locations in town. 
They're all unique, but actually

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as soon as you start playing 
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There's obviously the more 
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more sheriff badges you get, 
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She has a bit of mitigation to 
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by the sheriff at the end of the
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Right. 
But I'm looking, I'm looking at 

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this right now. 
So you've got like a little 

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player board in front of you 
that's dry erase, Is that 

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correct? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really 

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nice. 
High production is a Kickstarter

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that that I just went. 
I mean, I do like the world. 

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W Sub, you know? 
W Legends. 

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I've always been a fan of, you 
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thought, now this looks good and
I have to say I am those 

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Kickstarters. 
I was like, now this one has 

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been an absolute. 
That's that one I got right. 

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I love it. 
So check it out. 

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Yeah, I think you can buy it 
from their website. 

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I don't think it's not in retail
in the UK yet anyway. 

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But Flip Town, if you're a fan 
and roll and write, flip and 

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write games, there's it might be
a bit late for Christmas 

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stocking time, but it's, it's a 
lovely, lovely game. 

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Anything else you've been, 
you've been recently 14? 

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Looking forward to no I pretty 
much what I've named is what 

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we're ready to, We're ready to 
tackle. 

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We've got 233 games in our 
collection. 

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We've played 94.6%. 
That is, that is. 

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I'm sure I've got some. 
And we've we've picked up a lot 

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of new games. 
Maple Valley and Diced Veggies 

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just came in. 
Oh, I got a text from John Try 

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win Games when he was at Essen, 
a game called Captains of the 

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Gulf. 
It's about the Gulf of Mexico. 

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It's set from in in my home, my 
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you're you're going in the Gulf 
of Mexico to get fish, shrimp 

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and crabs and oysters. 
And so I picked up a used copy. 

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Geekway had a used game sale in 
Saint Louis. 

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I picked up a copy real cheap, 
played that. 

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That was interesting. 
And then we got a copy of 

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Empire's End that we demoed at 
Gen. 

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Con. 
So yeah, our collection grew, 

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and yet we've managed to. 
It's incredible. 

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Honestly, I think if I play 95% 
of my games every single year, I

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feel really good about that and 
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We. 
Should be. 

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It's. 
Oh dear. 

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Yeah, yeah, what? 
I'm on, but because more games 

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have arrived we're on 2020%. 
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I mean, I've seen you say we, we
went to see Nick Ball Game 

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Review UK, yeah. 
I saw you were. 

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There last last weekend so we 
were just comparing stats and 

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this has been a pretty unless we
have a Christmas miracle and I 

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play about 120 games, this is 
not going to be the worst on 

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record, but certainly since 
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So we've. 
Played the least, but then I 

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take the year into account, it's
been a busy one. 

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So what I need to do and is take
my entire vacation, 180 hours or

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whatever it is, 110 hours, and 
come visit you. 

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So if you're going to put me up 
and you're going to feed me, 

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we're going to play. 
All these games we're just going

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to go through games we've 
where's, what's the unplayed 

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pile where? 
That's at 80. 

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Yep. 
You give me free food and 

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lodging, I'll come see you stay 
with. 

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You baked beans on toast. 
I don't know. 

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Sure, OK. 
No idea what you just signed up 

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for. 
That's a low, that's a low cost 

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meal. 
Thanks. 

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It feeds you every day. 
Yeah. 

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So yeah, that that's what I'm 
hearing is that we have to come 

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and stay. 
With you and I need help. 

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I need help. 
You do. 

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You do so. 
OK, that's. 

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Great. 
So I think, I think we should, I

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think we'll, so I think we're 
going to take next week off now 

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help me. 
Yeah, Christmas and we'll be 

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back just New Year's Eve, I 
think is the plan and we're 

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going to talk about the games 
we've got through at Christmas 

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and then we'll get back into 
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We've got we've got a design 
publisher due the first week of 

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January, as long as all the 
dates line up. 

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An. 
Imminent Kickstarter we should 

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be talking to. 
That's correct. 

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Otherwise, I think we should 
just wish each other had Merry 

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Christmas. 
Yeah, Happy Christmas. 

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And our listeners, thank you for
listening. 

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It's been. 
A. 

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Thank you so much. 
It's been a brilliant year for 

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for growth. 
Thanks for all the comments, 

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thanks for the encouragement and
I hope everyone enjoys 

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Christmas. 
You get all the gifts you wanted

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and you have time, your friends 
and family. 

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Absolutely. 
Play some games. 

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Happy Christmas and get those 
games played all right. 

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Happy Christmas, mate. 
Thanks everyone for listening. 

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