1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Including their favorite themes, games, hot topics, and much, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,840 much more. Hey, and welcome to Episode 70, 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:13,360 The Seven Zero, Casual Games, and Casual Conversations. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Gareth, how are you? I'm very well. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,880 We got through episode 69. We did. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,920 We did. Everyone enjoyed the video, The 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,640 video snippet. Yeah. 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,640 We'll talk about that later, yeah. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Or anyone likes to see us versus just hearing us, but now I'm 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,520 doing very well. Good, good. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Good. So, so what's new? 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,720 What's hitting your table right now? 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Well, we had a games day with our friend Nick yesterday. 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Really. Yeah, so did that. 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Play all dexterity games. I don't. 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Think you played any dexterity games? 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Oh no, we did. We played Rafter 5, which Nick 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,040 had talked about. He did. 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Which was a lot of fun. That was the one from Wink Games 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,440 where you're like the box opens up, it's the boat, you put like 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,680 the planks on top and you've got balanced planks around. 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,680 I think it might land in my collection. 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Yeah, it was nice, but that was the only decks Darity game we 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,120 played. So, so Nick talked. 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,400 A lot about Ashanti as well. Shanti yeah. 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Yeah, so I got to play with Nick's smooth and silky balls. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,640 It's a pretty game. It does come in a luxurious 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,480 velvet box. I mean, yeah, it really does 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,160 look like something you might buy for a different kind of 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,360 shop, but. Is the mat felt? 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,040 Is it neoprene? Is it neoprene? 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,000 But has got a super smooth surface. 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,280 It's just, yeah, it's not, yeah. It's not like wet suit kind of 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,520 neoprene. It's right. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040 It's got definitely like a fluffed up surface. 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,840 OK. So yeah, I had a lot of fun. 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,960 I got beaten. I feel like, I feel like 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,160 photographs don't do that game justice, you know? 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,560 It looks pretty. But it's yeah, it's really nice. 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Yeah, the ball's cool. Like they're plastic with liquid 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 in it. So when you spin the ball along 42 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,280 it like the inner ball moves around, kind of looks like an 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,600 optical illusion. So yeah, that was good. 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,360 So, so that's yesterday and my favorite game. 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 We paid 11 games yesterday as well. 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,920 It's a good gaming session. I. 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,960 Saw that I'm I'm really proud of you. 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,240 We. Didn't play obsession? 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,880 That's I'd say I enjoyed the most. 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Feed the Kraken, which is social deduction, Pirates, sailors and 51 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:50,960 cultists. And I'd been a good sailor, very 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,400 honourable, until the cultists leader decided that I needed to 53 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,760 be part of the cultist team. So with my honourable sailor 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,400 side decided that it was time to take captain of the ship and 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,000 throw the cult leader into the Kraken, which led to a cultist 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,440 win victory for us. Right, look at you. 57 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:18,200 Yeah, From honourable to yeah. Tossing. 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Tossing. Coltis. 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,480 Yeah, stop there before. And then the other game that I 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,080 thoroughly enjoyed, which I thought I would, was Far Away. 61 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:29,800 The single words not far away, which is a different game that 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,480 we talk about, right. Which is like you get to play 8 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,280 cards and then you play the cards in reverse order you that 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,320 you played them to score points. It's really good. 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,280 Cool. Thoroughly enjoyed that? 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,640 How about you? What's your table recently? 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,880 So yeah, before I tell you that, toss it. 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Reach out to us. They were really excited that 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Nick talked about their game in last week's. 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Tossing. Tossing. 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 And so I said, hey, send me a copy and I'll get play it and 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,480 we'll talk, you know, try and you know, get you on the show in 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,560 the future or something like that. 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,000 They're going to send me a copy. And I was like because that 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 looks cool. So I will be getting a 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,240 Dexterity. Game What's up? 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 You said a dexterity game Looks cool. 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,480 I did. I did. 79 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:18,959 How much you've changed in a week? 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,240 In a week? In a week. 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,760 A whole look. It's a whole new PJ. 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,000 He's embracing, balancing things and tossing things. 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Yep. So. 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,440 Proud of you? Oh. 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,720 Thank you. I think. 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,040 I I think you can. It'll play well with our group 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,160 and that'll be fun. And I enjoyed talking with the 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,520 designer of that, so that'll be cool as far as what hit my 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,800 table. So yesterday we have returned to 90 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Frost Haven. Yay, I have a lot of thoughts 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,480 about Frost Haven. Oh like, oh, like because like 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,840 you were a Gloom Haven mega fan. Frost Haven. 93 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:54,120 What? What this? 94 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Good or bad or indifferent or middle of the road. 95 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:01,400 Yes, all of it. Yeah. 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,720 So, OK, so yesterday we played two scenarios and they were 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 linked. So that means that you have to 98 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,280 play the second one immediately after the first. 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,640 You can't return to Frost Haven and do all the outposts. 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Could you wait and pause the game and come back next week? 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Would you? Does it need to be played? 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 No, I mean, you could wait, but like when you come back, you 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,400 have to play the mission. You can't. 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 You can't. You can't go to Frost Haven. 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Try to buy a new one. It's something else, yeah. 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,920 And it was, it was important for my so I still was playing one of 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,080 the starting classes. For those of you who play Frost 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Haven, I was playing the bone shaper. 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,400 And so it's been a year and I just finally retired my first 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,000 character. So I'm happy about that, but I'm 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,360 also kind of annoyed that it took that long. 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,320 So the the way that the game is is different from Gloom Haven is 113 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,520 they'll they'll invite calendar events, so like a calendar and 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,120 they'll say put this number three weeks in the future. 115 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,400 And when we get to that time, you read that corresponding 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,160 entry, something happens, you draw a card, you get a new 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:19,160 building, various things happen. But it's like, so my character 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 would have to complete a scenario, which would be like, 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,200 now you got to wait for the calendar event. 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,080 So now we're doing other things, we got to the calendar event, a 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,360 new mission, another calendar event, and it just, it seemed 122 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,480 like it took unnecessarily long, right? 123 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,360 Is it the other? The other two bloated as it's 124 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,640 just too much. Yes, Admin, Admin. 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:47,400 The the admin has gotten worse. Here's the other problem behind 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,920 that is now I have a new character at level 2, whereas I 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,720 was at level 9. He was fully maxed out. 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,160 Now I've got a brand new character and I've got to learn 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,640 it, and we're in the middle of the story. 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,080 And everyone's at various levels now because they've gotten used 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,040 to their second character. And I understand that's the 132 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,000 nature of the game. You have to learn a new 133 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,240 character. But when you're when you're 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,240 maxed out with one character for so long, it's it's a difficult 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,600 adjustment. So you know, that was a little 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,800 disappointing. I'm beginning to wonder. 137 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,960 We are 38% through the entire, yeah. 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Epic. Now we're playing every other 139 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Saturday. I know some groups burn through 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Frost Haven in like the first two months after getting their 141 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,640 copy last year. Well, some of us don't have the 142 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,800 luxury of playing Frost Haven. Have it set up on the table and 143 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 play it every night. How long do you play it for when 144 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,680 you do meet? So the guys come over at noon 145 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,400 and we usually play for about 6 hours. 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,040 OK. Yeah, it's good, solid. 147 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Maybe 7 hours depending upon the mission, and then we'll pack 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,840 everything up and just to play something else or a bunch of 149 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,640 smaller games or whatnot, you know? 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,760 But we always try to end the night with something else. 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,840 That way we feel like, hey, you know, OK we did Frost Haven, but 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 we also got to play something else as well. 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Because the problem with and you've you've critiqued Katie 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 and I for this before we're get into these campaign games. 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,799 You never have time to play all your games, right? 156 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:34,919 But I know that's always been a problem. 157 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,159 It's like, well, we're going to play Frost Haven all day. 158 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Well, we have all these games on our tables, on our shelves and 159 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,400 we can't play them. And we want to. 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,720 And we think about our gaming group when we buy a game, it's 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,560 like, oh, so and so's going to like this, you know? 162 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,160 And if we're not playing it with them, then, but that's what we 163 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,440 did. So we retired my character and 164 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,120 moving forward trying to get the 40% of Frost Haven complete. 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,240 So this rate finished by Christmas. 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,200 No, no. Gloom haven took two years, 2 167 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,480 1/2 years. For us it's. 168 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,520 A big investment, isn't it? In time it is. 169 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,000 But again, that's every other Saturday, so we're not playing 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,720 it weekly or. Does everyone enjoy it? 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Does everyone go, Yeah, I really can't because can we not play 172 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,880 wingspan this week or is it everyone? 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,560 'S no no. Invested. 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Everyone's invested in it now. Sometimes someone can't make it 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,880 right, like something will come up. 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,640 It's like, hey, I can't make it. And they're like, you can go 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,200 ahead and play without me, that's fine. 178 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,160 And Frost even allows you to do that. 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,880 But when someone cancels, that's when I take the opportunity to, 180 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,360 hey, let's play something else because you know, I know you, 181 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,680 like, you know Lords of Vegas or Lords of Water deep, Let's play 182 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:56,200 that instead because so and so can't show up or can't make it. 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,120 So that's the bonus of hosting and having all the games in your 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,160 collection. Is that you? 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Can it does help? You know, yeah, So. 186 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,480 So Frost Taymon was our big one. I think my game is I've been 187 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,320 thinking about playing War of the Ring, The Lord of the Rings 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,760 two player. I've heard a lot of things. 189 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,560 Yeah, I played it once with our friend George and loved it. 190 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,400 And the other day I thought myself, I really want to play 191 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,880 that again. But it's a whole, it's like a 7 192 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,240 hour event because you got to remember the rules, which I 193 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,320 which is like been two years, right? 194 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,280 But you know, but that's just one game. 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,800 You know, pack it away, job done. 196 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Whereas you're working your way through a epic, you know there's 197 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,760 a lot of commitment. The The story is easier. 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Keeping track of the narrative is easier than in Gloomhaven. 199 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,880 In Gloomhaven we were like, I don't even remember what we're 200 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 doing anymore. In Frost Haven, this the 201 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,000 narrative track. That's good. 202 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,160 So I guess that's learnings from the first one. 203 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 The increased administration of the game? 204 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Handicaps. What's the word? 205 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,240 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, positive negatives. 206 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Yeah, highlights and no notes. Yeah, so. 207 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,240 What actually was playing? We are in the middle, so we got 208 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,080 we finally got two games that we're play testing. 209 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,720 I know you received a copy of one of them. 210 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,440 I don't know if the second one has arrived yet. 211 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Fate of Antera. Is here yet to be played? 212 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,760 We'll be on the podcast. Yeah, we we played it at two 213 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,800 players, Yep, just Katie and I, and then last night we played it 214 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,960 at five players. Oh, how was that? 215 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,360 It's and it was 2 1/2 hours, five players. 216 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,120 It's a bad five players. It's not bad at all. 217 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,560 No. No. 218 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,640 That's after two scenarios of Frost Haven, So that was a full 219 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,960 day. Let's get going. 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,560 It's a it's a solid game. I've got some detailed notes to 221 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:05,840 give to Zach, who's one of the two designers, and it's all 222 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,920 about like the the rules. There's a few like rules. 223 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:15,080 There's some, you know, rule, rule clarifications and certain 224 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 cars. It says this, but does it really 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,680 mean that? Or does it mean? 226 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:19,440 That I saw. It's actually gay. 227 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,800 That needs a bit of fine tuning. That's OK. 228 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,320 So I think it's I think. It's Venterra. 229 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Venterra. Yeah, I think it's really close. 230 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,680 Yeah. So we're just waiting for you to 231 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,080 play that so that we can have Zach on. 232 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Yeah. And then we've got another game, 233 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,600 Fluffy Dragons. Did you get your copy? 234 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,920 Yet not arrived yet. OK by I think. 235 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,440 It's like weeks. Yeah. 236 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,800 From wherever, wherever it's coming from, I guess. 237 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,320 Oh, yes. We've Katie and I played it. 238 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,960 We only played it at two players. 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,360 I'm gonna try to play because it plays up to five. 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,600 So we're gonna play more. It's it's shorter, it's faster. 241 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,680 It's cute. The the Dragon miniatures are 242 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:02,200 amazing. It was a little flat at two 243 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:08,560 players, just a little bit, you know, I think it needs more 244 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:12,320 players for interaction, but I won't know that until I play 245 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,640 with more players. So. 246 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 So that's kind of, yeah, doing some play testing for some 247 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,040 friends and getting some designers on the podcast in the 248 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 future. That's that's what I've been 249 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,800 working on. It's kind of exciting. 250 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,880 I like that. We're looking through what other 251 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,120 thing. I mean we've we played Barcelona 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,080 finally, so Nick was a hard time because I hadn't played 253 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Barcelona. So we got back to table Sunday. 254 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,400 We played it again on Friday. We played it two player, first 255 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,680 of all, which I really enjoyed because it was pretty quick and 256 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,040 I couldn't. There wasn't much player 257 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,520 interaction but there was enough. 258 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Where's the three player because you've got that one extra player 259 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,000 in the middle. I had to think a little bit more 260 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,360 strategic about where I put things. 261 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,280 So see, I I still enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it in a different, 262 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:02,680 in a different kind of way. And then on the reverse of that 263 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:06,960 we played So somebody sent me. I think it's the something game 264 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Company Abduction, which you might have seen in my Instagram 265 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,000 feed, these little mini ducks, which it looks like it's a 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,840 pretty successful Kickstarter back in 22. 267 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,640 It plays brilliantly at two. We played it at 5 yesterday and 268 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,160 it was just a little bit, a little bit too much down time. 269 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,960 It's very simple. You've got it's really cool 270 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,480 spaceship with with ducks in it. I mean it's random. 271 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,600 You you draw the ducks out of the spaceship, you put them on 272 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,400 your quantum flow, whatever it's called, and then you've got 273 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,560 these really nice shiny cards that have got different 274 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,680 configurations of of a of a 2 by 5 grid. 275 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,760 So you might need to have all the same ducks in two by two, 276 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,040 then a space two by two or three together, one above and one at 277 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,480 1-2 steps away. So you've got action cards that 278 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,600 you move those ducks around. I mean it's it, it's just fun. 279 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,560 I mean it was a like two player and three player. 280 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,800 We've played really quick, whereas we played five player, 281 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 which you need for you need the expansion for. 282 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,160 But we didn't add in these wild beautiful, shimmery glitter 283 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,760 green ducks. Maybe they should have been 284 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,040 added because they're wild And it might Oh yeah, maybe just 285 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,040 added it up. But yeah, it's good. 286 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,600 That's yeah. So I'll need to some coverage on 287 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,400 that game, yeah. I was looking. 288 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,840 I was looking at that because Katie's got a huge rubber ducky 289 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,040 collection that we keep in the bathrooms and decorations. 290 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640 And I saw this game. I'm like, Oh my God, this is. 291 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,800 Yeah, they're about, yeah. Little tiny. 292 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 They're they're really cute. I mean, and this the the rubber 293 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 spaceship is, it's good production. 294 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,840 It is good on the table. I like that. 295 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,520 And I think that the last game that we've been teaching a lot 296 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,400 of people recently is Tiger and Dragon. 297 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,920 Tell me more. So that's an Oink game, and Oink 298 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,080 games are famous, are coming in small boxes like Deep Sea 299 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,720 Adventure. This is a big wink box game, 300 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,880 kind of paperback. Typical paperback book size. 301 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,960 OK, maybe slightly larger. It's based on a Japanese game 302 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,080 which I can't out now, can't remember, but it comes with 10 303 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:26,360 different scoring games, so it gives you loads of variety and 304 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:33,160 they're all different. There are like my young tiles, 305 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,000 so there's 11, there's two twos, there's three threes, there's 306 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,840 four fours, 556-6077 and eight eights which are either red or 307 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,960 blue. Odds are red evens are blue, and 308 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,320 then two wild, so one red, 1 blue wild, one dragon, one 309 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,960 tiger. And on your turn you you all 310 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,600 draw about between 7:00 and 11:00 tiles, putting a number of 311 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,600 players as if you left in the middle to give some 312 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 randomization. And on my turn I pick one of the 313 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:12,200 tiles I have and I make it an 8, and then I I'm attacking you. 314 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,040 So you then if you've got an 8, you can use that to defend 315 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,040 yourself. Well, you can't even pretend you 316 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,040 haven't got them, but the idea of the game is to get rid of all 317 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,160 of your tiles and the last hole that you play when you go out 318 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 the scoring tab will give you points. 319 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,480 So let's say in the basic game, finishing with A7 and eight 320 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,920 which is theirs, the most of will give you like 4 victory 321 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,720 points and the first one to ten wins and we have. 322 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,880 It's a nice, maybe 1520 minute filler. 323 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,320 Again, plays probably best. He plays up to five. 324 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,920 It works well at 234. We played it five last night and 325 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,680 we finished scoring it to five points. 326 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Not ten, just because it started to drag. 327 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 But yeah, really good, Very tactile, Looks great on the 328 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,400 table. Tiger and Dragon, but it's not 329 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,800 quite. It's about 40 lbs. 330 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,160 It's not cheap really. Yeah, maybe because it's heavy 331 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,520 and I guess it's Japanese. I guess it's import from Wink. 332 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,600 Oh, sure. So, but yeah, really good. 333 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,520 That's my last one for recent games. 334 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Recent games, Yeah, you did a poll. 335 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Recently. So what was that? 336 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Two weeks ago maybe, yeah, 2, two or three weeks ago we did a 337 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,400 poll on our on our meeble to meeble Instagram and we talked 338 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,920 about like here's four things that you, you know what, which 339 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,440 of these four things do you want to see more of? 340 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,520 What do you want us to talk about? 341 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,080 Do you want more designers on like we've had in the past? 342 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Do you just want more gamers, more innuendos? 343 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,400 Right. He shook his head. 344 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:57,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. More. 345 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,360 More top ten lists. I I do enjoy top 10s. 346 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,040 Personally, I enjoy top ten lists. 347 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,280 I personally cannot stand top 10. 348 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,000 Lists. Well, let's do top five instead 349 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,080 then. I don't. 350 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Care about that either like. People love listening to you 351 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,520 talk about your favorite dexterity games. 352 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:20,160 Come on. Oh sure, but of the people who 353 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,640 answered, they said they wanted more gamers featured now. 354 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,200 It wasn't overwhelming featuring. 355 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Their top ten list, Then we Then we're winning, aren't we? 356 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Well, maybe, but it was more gamers. 357 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,800 So it got me to thinking, is, and I don't know, maybe we need 358 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,920 to reach back out to our listeners one more time for 359 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,320 clarification. But it's like our tagline is 360 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,960 uniting players around the world, right? 361 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:54,120 So maybe we need to, I don't know, open up an invitation to 362 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:58,320 folks or, you know, have more guests who are just from the 363 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,880 gaming community and they pick the topic and then we talk about 364 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,920 it for 30 minutes. Or I don't know. 365 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,720 And is that something worth, you know, should we put a post out 366 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 and say, hey, what do you want? You know, or I don't know how to 367 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,400 work that, but I can. I love we can guests. 368 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Well, I love guests and I love top 10s, so it sounds like we're 369 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,360 going to have guests with their top ten games. 370 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Top five people love sharing it's knowledge. 371 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,160 Well, sharing's fine, I guess. This everyone does it though. 372 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,680 I don't want to do what everyone does. 373 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,800 No, we're. Different already. 374 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,680 There we go. OK, an international flavour 375 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,120 and. Yes. 376 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,920 And people's favorite games, I don't know. 377 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,360 What I'll do is I can put a poll into Spotify questions if you do 378 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,600 listen to Spotify. Just. 379 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Scroll down slightly. There'll be a poll, obviously if 380 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,560 you if you do listen to Spotify, always leave us a comment 381 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,080 because that's always good to read. 382 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:04,240 But there'll be a poll and it'll be what kind of content? 383 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,720 It'll be similar to the one you posted on Maple to Maple. 384 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,440 Channel. OK. 385 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Yeah. And we'll see what people say on 386 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,720 their poll, I mean to be. Right. 387 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,400 I love it. I mean, I love to have you all 388 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,520 on. I think it's great. 389 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,560 The I love interviewing and you know, that kind of thing. 390 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,840 I really enjoy it and I love getting to know all of the 391 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,160 gamers. I think that's what really makes 392 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,640 the community. I mean the games don't make the 393 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,320 community. Games are useless if there's no 394 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,800 one there to play it. So we make up the community and 395 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,440 like I said, we want to unite players around the world. 396 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,280 So we want everyone to reach out and, you know, invite you to 397 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,080 come on and you pick the topic in your top five games. 398 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,000 How about that? How about that? 399 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,320 There's my compromise. So we. 400 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,880 The guest. Uses the topic and their top 401 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,840 five within that theme. It could be mechanic, it could 402 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,720 be whatever you want and we'll come on for 30 minutes or more, 403 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,200 whatever. And we're just going to, we're 404 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,760 going to talk about it, and it'll be all about you, our 405 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,560 friends. Around the world, it's. 406 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,200 Good. I love it around the world. 407 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 I love that. And so Speaking of that, so 408 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,200 we're going to have a very special episode next week, 409 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,720 right? A very Yeah, I think we are 410 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,040 right. Oh, and with you? 411 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Yes, we are. It's a very short episode. 412 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,120 Next week it's. Going to be short it's. 413 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:33,720 Going to be about 5 minutes. I think it's closer to 10. 414 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 It's really close to 10 minutes, but it's awesome. 415 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Y'all y'all are going to y'all are going to hear the voice of 416 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,920 probably the single greatest guest we ever had on the show. 417 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,800 You really are thinking yourself. 418 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:51,400 No, because it's great. If if if it's enjoyed and it's 419 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,800 so next week you're you're not you're you're going to play 420 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440 games with gamers like and make something. 421 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,640 I am going to Tennessee Game Days in Nashville, TN Adam from 422 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Tabletop Vibes is coming down here and then the two of us are 423 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240 driving down to Nashville where we're going to meet a bunch of 424 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,120 people. We're going to meet TJ Plays. 425 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,160 We're going to meet Ameri Trash Talk and her husband. 426 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,400 We're going to meet Tabletop, Worldwide Nashville board game 427 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:26,440 guy Dom from Bromide Enthusiast. So many people are going to be 428 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,120 in Nashville. It's going to be great, so I 429 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,760 won't be available to record, but what I will do is record 430 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,960 sound bites for the. Show. 431 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,640 Just do a live show. I'm going to have peace now. 432 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,360 You could do a live show. Just record it straight from 433 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,360 there, finally. The last time I did a live, it 434 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,880 was it was just it. Was no the hotel room. 435 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,320 Just like, do you know, anyway. Maybe. 436 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Maybe. I could. 437 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Possibly do that because PJ is not around and then obviously 438 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,960 there can't be a PJ that Gareth and a Gareth that PJ. 439 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400 So we have a special guest filling in for 5 minutes. 440 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,080 And it's awesome. Which was recorded at Christmas 441 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:07,000 time and if you would enjoy it, this young man, he's very keen 442 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000 to come on the show more often. So it might become a monthly a 443 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:18,000 monthly 5-10 minutes with this very enthusiastic young man I. 444 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,720 Feel like we should have him on every week. 445 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,200 He should close out every episode. 446 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:27,160 I think I'd be exhausted. I'm really excited to hear what 447 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,960 everyone thinks we were, you know, we were. 448 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,920 You and I were talking about at some point having an episode 449 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,360 about organization of the game shelves. 450 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,600 And Oh yeah, we were with me. And so Katie and I, we took all 451 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,360 of our games off our shelves and did a complete dusting. 452 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,520 And everything we did, we did a reorganization. 453 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:53,040 And I got my inspiration from our friend Bandzinator, who's 454 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,120 out in California. She was. 455 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,680 She was doing them by vertically, by size. 456 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And she talked about how many 457 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:07,240 cube calyx cubes she managed to free up by doing it according to 458 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520 size. So you fit them in this cubes by 459 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,400 size and then for the little spaces you can fill them in with 460 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,640 it, whatever and but size is first and then you can do it by 461 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,960 theme or publisher or whatever. We ended up freeing up three 462 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,720 whole Calacs cubes, which we subsequently filled up one of 463 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560 them. But but that's always the art. 464 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,360 I wonder if anyone's made Sony must have done this because all 465 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,280 the dimensions are on Board Game Geek Company. 466 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,400 They are mostly. So if you if you took those 467 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760 dimensions with a bit of AI and a little bit of config of that 468 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,280 shelf, you could just say to the computer. 469 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,760 Here's my games collection from Board Game Geek. 470 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760 Take those dimensions and please show me optimal. 471 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Oh, oh. That that that is not beyond the 472 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200 I need to talk to some data scientists I know. 473 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,920 What about you? Why don't you just do it? 474 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 I need someone you can do some proper data science, but luckily 475 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,480 I have one who works for me, so I'll speak to. 476 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,880 I'll speak to them and say I've got a really good idea. 477 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Here's some data. Can you do some magic? 478 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,680 Because I think that could be, I think there's a market for that, 479 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,040 I think. That could you just type in how 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,880 many callates cubes have you got say say 50 and then it takes all 481 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,120 those games. Yeah, yeah, now so. 482 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,160 Anyone listening who thinks they could message me? 483 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Yeah, yes. Message us and let us know if 484 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,560 you have the skill set to help us determine. 485 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,920 The thinking here Processing. I think it's quite easy 486 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,840 actually. I bet it is. 487 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,880 I don't have the skill set for it right, but it is. 488 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,880 That's what we need. That is what I that's what I 489 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,960 need it would it would help my. You know. 490 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,440 Too much storage. So one of the things I have done 491 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,400 in the past and I'm running out of space is I pushed because 492 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600 obviously Calyx are quite deep. There's always a there's always 493 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400 a good 1520 centimeters at the back. 494 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,560 That's not optimal. So often I then push the games 495 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,760 back and I put a box front on. I hate that. 496 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,400 And I hate. A lot of people. 497 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840 But it does mean I can get another 50 games. 498 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,040 It's true. It's no good because I'm but I'm 499 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600 looking for a game. I'm like, OK, I'm putting all 500 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 these boxes off looking for the game I can't find, right? 501 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,560 But then if I had the app that I've just used to structure my 502 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560 game, I just do a quick like, Librarian. 503 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Where do I find Pillars of Earth that is in section 6? 504 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,880 OK, so my battleship, yeah. I think that's a great topic. 505 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,960 I would love to. I would love to get a guest on 506 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,880 to talk about. Book in storage. 507 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,000 Yeah, the difference between a library and a collection. 508 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,000 And vertical and horizontal. Which I do both vertical and 509 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,480 horizontal. You know, we've got that system. 510 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,320 So what's your? Yeah, what's your preference? 511 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920 So if you had, if you if you wasn't about space, would you be 512 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,160 horizontal or vertical? So honestly, it's about inserts. 513 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520 If I have a folded space, insert let's go vertical. 514 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,680 If I don't horizontal because. It's really I'm vertical no 515 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,480 matter what. No, I I don't. 516 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:34,320 No, no, no, no. No. 517 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600 No, no. OK. 518 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,680 So if you. Big boxes. 519 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,400 And then let's leave this for a for a debate episode. 520 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,400 Yeah, what is this thing? Collections versus libraries. 521 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Horizontal. Vertical. 522 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Vertical inserts versus no inserts, and I guess we may as 523 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,400 well throw in sleeving versus not. 524 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,200 Sleeves versus non sleeves. Yeah. 525 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720 If anybody wants to talk about those, drop us a message, me or 526 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,800 PJ, please, and then we'll get you on the show and we'll talk. 527 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Maybe we need a vertical and a horizontal. 528 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,640 We need a bit of a controversy. Yep, to have a debate. 529 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,080 I like it because. Clearly, vertical is right. 530 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,320 So that's the end of that debate. 531 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640 I mean, I guess I don't know. I don't know. 532 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,400 I'm. Just looking at my large ball 533 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 game storage and they're all horizontal. 534 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Because their size, Yeah. That's why you did that, Yeah. 535 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Yeah, interesting. So Peter, why did you bring up 536 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,480 this subject in the 1st place? The reason is when Katie and I 537 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,960 were organizing our shelves, we've got all the they're all 538 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,280 stacked on our table. We're restructuring our shelves. 539 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,160 What did we listen to while we were organizing the shows? 540 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,520 We listened to the recording of the special guest. 541 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Oh. Yeah, and I think we listened to 542 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880 it twice because he's awesome. Y'all. 543 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Hopefully he's not listening, he'll just just go to his head. 544 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Since since recording the Super Special episode of about 7 545 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,280 Minutes long, he's got his own idea about his own podcast show, 546 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,320 so he's already got a breakaway. So he has not yet been a guest 547 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:21,440 on our show and he is already he already has a a spin off of our 548 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200 show. He He's showing now. 549 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,600 He's showing, remember? He's the best show. 550 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,600 That's right. That's right. 551 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,840 So, so next week we have an episode go out. 552 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,120 It's only a short 1, so it's like a bonus episode really. 553 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,400 So it'll be maybe, maybe it's the beginning of a new series, 554 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,080 maybe Episode 7 C is that series and we'll have a spin off series 555 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,960 PJ, Garath and. Friends and friends. 556 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,840 Friends. OK. 557 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Well, look, that's, we've done half an hour. 558 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,680 Yeah, We've talked about upcoming games. 559 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,960 We've talked about what's been hitting our tables. 560 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,160 We've talked about future episodes and guests. 561 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,400 So please do reach out and then you're off on the holiday. 562 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Yeah, we're going to meet some gamers and play some games. 563 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880 So the week after next, we'll do an episode on that. 564 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Yes, we will get. Some sound bites. 565 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,120 Try to get some sound bites. I'll think about doing a live 566 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,840 recording. I could probably do that. 567 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,960 I will be. I will be sharing a room with 568 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Tabletop worldwide. He and I. 569 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,720 Can they go? Seriously, I'll look into Studio 570 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720 and. Broadcast. 571 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840 We could just do that. Yeah, a whole a whole episode 572 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,640 without Gareth. It's on tour. 573 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Meatball, Meatball on tour. Live and direct with the 574 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,000 meatballs around the world. It's what you want. 575 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,560 You want to. You're right. 576 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,440 I want to talk to all the meat. Go. 577 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Oh no, I'm. Not going to start singing so 578 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 anyway, everyone, it's been an absolute pleasure. 579 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Oh, that's great. Thanks.