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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple, 
uniting players around the 

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world. 
A 30 minute exploration of PJ 

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and Gareth 4 game experiences 
from across both sides of the 

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Atlantic. 
Each episode they share their 

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thoughts and opinions on the 
World of War games, including 

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their favorite themes, games, 
hot topics, and much, much more.

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And welcome to another exciting 
episode of Meeple to Meeple. 

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It is episode 84 and we are 
going to do a UKGE 2024 Games 

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recap. 
As always, I am PJ. 

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And I'm Gareth back from the UK 
Games Expo. 

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Oh my goodness. 
And you are just. 

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You wore out, man. 
It's a busy, I mean, it was two 

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days, well, an evening in a day.
And I've decided that if you 

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really work hard and you do a 
lot of steps and a lot of 

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mileage, you can squeeze in 
buying, playing games, demoing 

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and Instagramming into a day. 
But then I had two days of 

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ultimate FOMO as I left Saturday
morning and all of our friends 

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played games. 
So yeah, I definitely would do. 

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We've we've already booked for 
next year and we are doing the 

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four days. 
But it is, it was good. 

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It was good. 
Can't believe it's been a week 

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since we went. 
I know, right? 

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I've got a few clips we can play
from the Instagram crew. 

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I've got a couple of overviews 
for a couple of games that I 

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saw. 
You, you, you missed a good 

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episode last week. 
Mr. Bosni. 

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Yeah. 
Very interesting. 

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Very nice artwork. 
Thank you to Adam for covering. 

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He did a splendid job. 
You recorded that on the Friday?

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Yeah. 
When I was at the show. 

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You guys, you. 
Were at the show, yeah. 

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And then we released it Tuesday.
That worked nicely as well. 

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That was good. 
That was good. 

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No, that was good. 
So as you're testing out our 

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fill in Co hosts? 
Working. 

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Is still out if. 
Anyone else wants in? 

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What was from your side of the 
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What did you see on your 
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Expo that you thought was 
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Oh man. 
So there were, there were two 

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things I think that stood out 
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The first one was just the 
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There were a lot of stories and 
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around John. 
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Trying in games. 
Yeah, John is always, wait, 

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John, you could never lose. 
So the thing I liked about John 

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is that he had his rucksack, not
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He had a notice board. 
I had notice. 

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Board a notice. 
For like schedules, of course, 

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we had Instagram bingo going on.
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Sunday, there was a different 
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I think it was Instagram Mr. 
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And he had the little pins that 
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where he was supposed to be like
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It was really useful if you 
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doing. 
And then he had like, I think it

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was a telescopic fishing rod, 
but it probably wasn't that with

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a red plunger. 
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gaming up with the plunger and 
they were ah, it's John. 

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So. 
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About that, we talked about it 
last year, a couple of us in the

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community. 
We were a Gen. 

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Con. 
We talked about putting up a 

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like a little flag. 
Is it happens a lot in the UK? 

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With like the people to people 
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So if I'm walking the vendor 
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come run up and get a sticker or
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So yeah, that's a good idea. 
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stood out from this side of the 
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CGE. 
I've just posted on my 

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Instagram. 
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I've seen a lot. 
It looks amazing. 

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Yes, it was my, I mean for the 
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the meetings I had the one game 
I was just like, man, this, this

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is good for the rotating boards 
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of the game. 
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preparing. 
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different parts of the player 
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make contact with ET, but ET may
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ET could be bad. 
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you're going to encounter. 
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I didn't get a full play because
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an overview was I think you make
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I don't know, messaging which 
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But it, it's actually really 
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And so you, the you, we 
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capability, but it has a huge 
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and the Earth, Oh, starts to go 
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So it's really, I mean, I didn't
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but I was like some different 
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I think the surprise, maybe not 
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surprise, was to find out that 
they continue to use that 

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reward. 
Yes, like. 

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Kutnahora. 
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I love that. 
All of the demo staff had this 

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wonderful purple Kutnahora 
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And I asked. 
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because I love the game and I 
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stuff. 
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But if anyone was listening from
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would love a purple Kunora 
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they're very purple and had the 
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So so that was good. 
So yeah, that's I think everyone

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who I've seen who got to play it
went straight into their in 

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their top three. 
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put it into his top three 
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It's much more on the heavier 
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Yes. 
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meet a lot of people and you did
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You did it in a short amount of 
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Yeah, so we, so we rocked up 
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work meeting, grabbed a beer and
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just waiting for the press 
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So pumped into some new 
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met before. 
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press event. 
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till 738. 
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Yeah, but I picked out a couple 
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the show was Loot LOO OT and 
that's from the designer Charles

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Chevalieri. 
Oh, they can't print out my 

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French who also designed Abyss. 
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release. 
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but shall I play a short 
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Sound quality was at the press 
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tight. 
So I have tried to edit the 

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audio, but let's listen to 
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Yeah. 
My name is Charles. 

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I'm one of the two outers of 
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OK. 
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Copier. 
That is not here, unfortunately.

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I'm coming from France. 
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You can hear it. 
So my English is not perfect, I 

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do my French OK so. 
Lute is is we we work with Lohan

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on a lot of coloring game years 
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this game. 
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something very tactic 
opportunistic, OK. 

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another Viking. 
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here Viking, I open new 
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can take for example, wood 
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I can take some forts, 
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And I put it here on my fuel, 
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Because the idea is that we are 
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clown of Viking, but we we are 
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here together. 
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And then when I place it here, 
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landscape that asks me some 
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it here. 
And it means that the power, the

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the points from this building, 
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It means that at the start the 
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then more and more. 
So if you are good to choose the

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good resource, the good building
and the good landscape, you can 

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make it really great. 
And you becomes the child, the 

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king. 
Of the weekend. 

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Amazing. 
When is it? 

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When's this released? 
Now, now, now, here. 

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Yeah. 
You come here to see Flavia or 

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me on the on the the Bruce and I
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the game. 
It's very rapid because it means

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that you play only 12 times. 
OK, so 12 times. 

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Yeah, but in 12 times you can 
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Yeah, the ball is full. 
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difference between a good week 
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medium one. 
Just see how we get on with the 

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weekend. 
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Thank you for your time. 
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So I had a game, the designer 
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Viking, wanted really badly. 
Now it turns out because I got 

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halfway through and I was like, 
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we're playing it right. 
But we had a teach from somebody

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else and I was like, you know, 
you feel a game is not being 

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played. 
And I was like, these rules 

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aren't quite for anyway. 
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said. 
Those are poor Vikings, Viking 

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scores. 
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the game and I was chatting to 
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realised we did one of the 
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But it's it's quite nice. 
You you only turn you put a 

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Viking out, like Charles said. 
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resources or you're raiding and 
you pick those tiles up to put 

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onto your own tile zone with its
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So it really it's pretty quick. 
Game looks pretty and game was 

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released at the expert. 
I've never heard of it until I 

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got to the show. 
Wouldn't even know know nothing 

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about it. 
So that was quite interesting. 

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What else is it? 
A show. 

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So I think what's interesting is
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Loot L00 0T loot. 
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was like, is there a, is there a
loot and then a loot? 

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Or is it, or is it like there's,
there's quite a few loot, LOOT, 

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yeah, but it could be loot LUTE.
But it isn't his loot, loot, 

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loot 'cause. 
You're playing as Vikings, not 

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Pirates, right? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, playing as Vikings and 
you're working your way across 

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the board and then you play some
meatball next to any other or 

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Viking. 
So as other people raid, it 

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opens up more lands. 
So it's quite a bit of tactical 

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movement where if I put this 
down, I'm now one step closer to

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probably something I need. 
So you don't put a Viking there,

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you wait to try. 
And so that that's probably the 

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the I guess the game of it is 
trying strategically, 

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particularly four players get it
right. 

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But yeah, so that that was one, 
one game. 

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So the other game go. 
Before, yeah, before you go any 

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further, I think it's worth 
noting for everyone is that all 

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these stories that you're 
telling us and that you're going

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to continue tell us you had your
daughter in tow with you the 

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whole time too. 
Yeah, we had Kira who whose job 

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was to carry bags. 
She was a mule. 

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But she did, She did. 
She did good. 

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She played all these games with 
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Well, I'm trying to think what 
Cures Hollow would be. 

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We should ask her. 
I should have got her to record 

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a clip, which I haven't. 
You should. 

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You should have. 
But yeah, there she she went off

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a couple of times and played 
games on a with some other other

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Instagrams that she knew out of 
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So yeah, she's always, always 
welcome, always comes along. 

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It's always good to have father 
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gaming. 
So she's certainly like 

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Lukasetti as well. 
Yeah, which is, which is good 

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because it's a space game and 
Carrie might not play. 

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Misses ball game. 
So you're going to need. 

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You're going to. 
Need you're backup. 

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Going to need backup. 
So after loot you saw what? 

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So I can say to my plays, so 
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ago called Warfarers Tale, which
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again walking through the hall 
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full scale four-game, right? 
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Kickstart, I think later later 
this year. 

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I've got a very short clip 
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Hey James here, designer of the 
Wayfarers tale we've taken. 

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The original, award-winning. 
Print and play, We've made it. 

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Bigger. 
We've split it. 

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Up with his massive component. 
It's really tactile. 

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It's got expansion material, 
it's got quests, it's got minis.

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Go back in. 
Told you it was short, the widow

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packet. 
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Tristan Rossin. 
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It's really driving, really 
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The print and play was 
excellent. 

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Rule funded really well, loads 
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And this comes out it's just 
Kickstarter soon. 

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I haven't even got a date. 
How useless of me. 

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But yeah, that's that's Wayfair,
that's Wayfarer's Tale. 

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midnight and a game that we 
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again, I didn't know much about.
I'm just going to go and get 

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some details on. 
It was a game called Slide, 

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which I didn't slide, which I 
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So it's it's a simple card game 
where everyone you got agreed of

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depending on the player order. 
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If you get rotates, you take one
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one of the grids and if you have
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to it, by the end of the 12 
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any zero points. 
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you're trying to get pairs or 
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single digit or or diagonals, 
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It's really clever. 
Check it out. 

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Slides. 
OK, I think it's Hachette. 

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I think it was another Hashette 
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He says, looking here. 
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Yeah, which is Hashette in the 
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Slide. 
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times in the evening. 
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slide? 
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6:00. 
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It was fun. 
It's good. 

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And that's what you look. 
It's a filler game, probably 15 

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minutes. 
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great game for like if you were 
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have to. 
Throw out conference. 

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they're looking for a. 
Little yes, absolutely. 

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I'm going to look for this. 
Check it out. 

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I got a work. 
I got a work conference this 

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summer. 
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and they saw it's the box is 
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stand out to me too much. 
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along with it, who demos for her
Shep, and said check this out. 

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And we're like, yeah, this is 
really good. 

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I think Kira said that's the one
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Oh, wow. 
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There's high praise right there.
Next. 

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That's Yeah, that is high 
praise. 

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She really enjoyed that game. 
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going to look at my stats and 
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that day. 
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Was it just a lot games of slide
and then it was Friday day of 

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the show? 
There it is. 

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So let. 
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Let me ask you a question. 
OK, So I've heard you and other 

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friends of ours who went to the 
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You just. 
So everything you just shared 

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with us was Thursday? 
Thursday. 

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And you're saying that's not the
start of the show? 

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That's that's press event. 
And then there's open gaming. 

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So open gaming is I think it was
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Obviously if some people go back
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different hotels, so. 
So, OK, so the reason I, the 

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reason I'm, I'm, I'm harping on 
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at Gen. 
Con, the first day is Thursday. 

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It starts 8:00 AM Thursday 
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Yeah, So, so at the UK Games 
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press pass and you do everything
you did, and then there's open 

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gaming separately, just for 
everyone. 

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So yeah, everyone could because 
everyone could come and get 

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tickets from high 5 S So people 
were collecting because what you

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don't want to do is on a Friday 
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because that might be an LQ. 
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And then the bring and buy opens
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limited in terms of what you 
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there a weekend I didn't drop 
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But right. 
I hear lots of people saying it 

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wasn't as good because it was 
limited. 

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A lot of people didn't bother or
people are trading them on on 

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Facebook groups, you know, those
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So yeah, it was busy. 
People kept in tickets. 

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And then we got to Friday. 
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you could you could wander 
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It wasn't too crazy compared to 
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And Friday was busy. 
Like, yeah, like, you wear your 

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bags and, you know, people are 
in the way. 

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It really was busy. 
So that's for every day. 

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That is every day at Gen. 
Con like that. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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It's interesting to hear you say
that. 

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Yeah. 
So basically what I'm hearing is

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that the games Expo is 3 days 
with Thursday. 

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It's kind of a press day if 
you've got a. 

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Yeah, pre, pre, pre. 
It's like a warm up, a warm up, 

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OK. 
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people go to get the games and 
then by the afternoon it 

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definitely quieten down. 
So I think you've got your 

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gamers who have got in, got some
stuff and then going to sit 

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down. 
And then the Saturday is more 

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the general public and it's I 
mean, I wasn't there, but I 

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heard he was epic. 
And then someday he's always 

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he's always the quietest day. 
And that's probably I think I'm 

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saying this to Nick at Broad 
Game of UK next year press event

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Open gaming. 
Do what I did this year, work 

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and do some Instagram stuff, 
meet some gay people for demos, 

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played. 
We were up to about 2:00 AM on 

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the Saturday morning and play 
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And then Saturday, if I was 
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games, open gaming or in the 
hotel. 

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That's it. 
No shopping or no wandering to 

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shut the trade halls. 
And then someday I'd go back in 

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and do those interviews I did, 
but where it's much quieter so 

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you get a bit more time. 
So do I guess Instagram or? 

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Check out some games I just 
couldn't get anywhere near in 

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terms of demo stands because 
he's just so he was so busy on 

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the Saturday. 
So when you were when you were 

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talking to these guys and doing 
these recordings, I know you've 

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got the two wireless lapel mics,
were you using those? 

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Yeah, that's yeah. 
But it was so noisy, yeah, that 

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you hear me? 
You hear the recordings from the

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Instagramers where they they 
weren't in the in a press event,

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the quality is so much better. 
So I need to think about because

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in a, in the press event, the 
space is just like literally 

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lines of tables and you're about
a metre apart from the next 

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person. 
So there's so much interference,

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which is why I've been, you 
know, tried to remove some 

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noise. 
But again, a good a good 

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experiment, but separately it's 
much easier on the. 

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Stands I I bring that up because
at the last, at the last 

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conventions where I had 
recordings, I had people record 

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when they came home where it was
quiet. 

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It's a good. 
Idea. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I've never tried to do what you 

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did. 
Yeah. 

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So it's interesting. 
Yeah, it's good. 

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Yeah. 
Let's see, I've got a few clips 

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from Instagramers, so we've got 
some short ones. 

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So I just asked some Instagram 
community to say what they were,

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what was the highlight of the 
game's Expo? 

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And this is a code. 
This is only on Friday evening, 

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Friday afternoon, what they 
thought of the Expo. 

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So first up, we've got Cassie 
from Spooky Meeples. 

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Cassie. 
Hello, this is spooky meeples. 

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My best thing about the show so 
far has been seeing all my 

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friends. 
Beautiful. 

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You see, I love friends. 
I love Cassie, she's so. 

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Amazing. 
And I think you're, I think we 

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said this last year, but you'll 
pick up a theme throughout these

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recordings. 
I've got another one. 

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Let's do looking for the 
recording which I cannot even 

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see. 
I've found it to a person and 

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Damian from Maples Abroad. 
Hey everyone, meatballs abroad 

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here, Captain and Damian. 
We've had a great time walking 

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around UKGE. 
And it's been great catching up 

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with all the board game content 
creators, board game companies, 

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seeing old friends and new. 
Our best part has to be sitting 

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at the Open Gaming Arena playing
board games with our Instagram. 

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Crew. 
Beautiful in it. 

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Those are two guys I really 
would like to meet I. 

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Oh, they're awesome. 
Yeah. 

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Just doing when everyone I met 
has been awesome. 

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I mean, they have got some epic 
giveaways. 

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If you're not on Instagram or 
you go and follow Meeples 

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abroad, they have a lot of gift 
ways that they've arranged on 

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the back of that show. 
It was really it was really, 

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really good. 
I was trying to think what out 

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of the games I brought home the 
the game we've that's been the 

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biggest surprise is Salton Sea. 
So it's a De Vere game. 

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Yeah. 
Which which on the box, it looks

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so innocent. 
It's about Geo geothermal energy

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production in the Salton Sea, 
which is between like the US and

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Mexico. 
And man, he is heavy. 

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I mean crunchy. 
Like I sat up and talk, talk 

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Carrie. 
And then she was like, I don't 

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know if I like this, not in a 
bad way, but like it was so 

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because you have this mechanic 
where so it's worker placement 

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looks all very nice, lots of 
work in lots of different zones 

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and you have money, but the 
money's on the back of the card.

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Also an action that's a worker 
placement. 

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So you can, you've got you've, I
mean, money's hard to have. 

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So you're obviously running a 
business. 

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So you play the card as an 
action, which you do get back at

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the end of the round. 
But that's, and the, the good 

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one's like $5, it's gone 
$5,000,000, whatever it might 

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be. 
So you're going now if I spend 

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this money, then I'd use the 
action. 

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But if I use the action, I 
haven't got any money. 

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So you're just trying to eke 
out. 

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It's like it's, it's, it's a 
really a workplace with economic

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game. 
You've got share slides and 

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investments. 
It's beautiful, absolutely 

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beautiful. 
Highly recommend if you want a 

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crunchy crunchy economic worker 
placement game Salton Sea and as

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ever but a devere game small box
Rams Rams they bring with wooden

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components and. 
Which is going to be an episode 

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we're going to talk about, we're
going to talk about. 

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Small games in. 
Small boxes, big. 

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Games in small boxes. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So be on the lookout for that. 
That's coming up. 

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That's not going to talk about 
it. 

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And Devere is like the master, a
big game in a small. 

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Box yeah, the the other game 
that I saw at the Hashette 

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stands and at the press event 
was Middle Ages now. 

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Tell me more. 
I didn't think it. 

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I thought it was an awesome 
release because I saw it and 

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then now I didn't get to play it
because the key was massive and 

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I was like, no, it wasn't on the
hashette that stands. 

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So I was like. 
So I crossed it off my list of 

452
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,720
not wanting it and in front of 
Hachette was Waterstones which 

453
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,680
is a big book shop who have gone
heavily into games over the last

454
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,160
12 months. 
Big stand and right on their 

455
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,320
very front was Middle Ages and I
was like. 

456
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,120
So I think it might have been a 
Waterstones exclusive for the 

457
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,800
show. 
Anyway, grabbed it because AI 

458
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,840
love Middle Ages are one of my 
favorite themes and it just 

459
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,480
looked beautiful. 
He's made it. 

460
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,400
I think it's the same designer 
as Splendor and his first game 

461
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:03,360
since Splendor, and we played it
three times at the show. 

462
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,480
We played it about five times 
this week. 

463
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,880
It's it plays. 
Is it two to five? 

464
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,920
I think it's two to five. 
I'll have to go and check. 

465
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,280
I think it's might be two. 
I think it's 2:00 to 5:00. 

466
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,520
He goes and gets the stats. 
I'm prepared for today. 

467
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,880
Yeah, two to five plays in about
30 minutes and about 2.25 wait. 

468
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Each player's got a player 
board. 

469
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,600
There's I think there's 12 zones
across it. 

470
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,720
So on the left hand side you've 
got your fields, then you've got

471
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,160
like your windmill and then 
you've got like a village and 

472
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,040
then you've got I think the 
walls. 

473
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Then you've got your your 
marketplace, you've got your 

474
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200
barracks, the church and the 
palace. 

475
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,160
So you're basically drafting 
tiles. 

476
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760
So in a like four player game, 
there's five tiles. 

477
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,800
You put your your feudal Lord on
the on the space. 

478
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960
You pick the tile a bit like 
king domino. 

479
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,400
You're moving you're kind of 
mechanic 44 tiles per round, 

480
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,640
four rounds, end of each end of 
each four cards is a is a an 

481
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,840
event and you're basically 
trying to build it up. 

482
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,120
But when you play that tile, it 
will give you something like 

483
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560
maybe the fields. 
It gives you a coin for every 

484
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:21,280
every villager when you play the
barracks, if anyone has got less

485
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,160
walls in you then they have to 
give you 2 coins and they 

486
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,000
destroy the furthest the tile 
furthest out from the village 

487
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,960
which often needs your fields. 
Which just like I guess you were

488
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,680
going to go raiding, they would 
be the first things that get 

489
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,720
destroyed right to the palace, 
which gives you lots of money 

490
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,880
and gives you little upgrades to
attach to your player board. 

491
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Absolutely brilliant. 
Like everyone I've talked it to 

492
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
has just gone really enjoyable 
game. 

493
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,240
It plays fast. 
Yeah, we've played it 2-3 and 

494
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,000
five players, John try win 
games. 

495
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Played it on the evening of the 
the Friday night and went all 

496
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,600
out. 
I'm just going to build loads of

497
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,800
barracks and we haven't really 
learnt the strategy, any 

498
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520
strategy. 
So everybody just goes, oh, I've

499
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,080
got a barracks. 
No one thought about maybe 

500
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920
stopping John getting barrack 
tiles or maybe building walls is

501
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,000
a good idea. 
So he's like every album he's 

502
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,760
getting 10 coins and you go, 
well, the game's broken. 

503
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Well, no, no, it's not. 
I mean, just like in if you 

504
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,760
didn't build a wall and you let 
people raid, then they they're 

505
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,840
going to take your stuff. 
So I tried it again in the two 

506
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,520
player game and I got my ass 
whooped because Carrie went all 

507
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,480
over Palace's upgrade and just 
outscored me even though I was 

508
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,240
trying to raid. 
So yeah, thematically brilliant 

509
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,040
art works great. 
I hope there might be some 

510
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,520
expansions. 
You can see the opportunity 

511
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,280
there is Middle Ages. 
I hope. 

512
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,880
I hope it's out of Gencom for 
you guys. 

513
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,360
I hope so. 
According to Hashet Games US, 

514
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600
it'll be released July 24th. 
That's. 

515
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Not long. 
That's OK. 

516
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440
So Gen. 
Con, it'll be OK, wouldn't it? 

517
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Yeah, basically Origins. 
Well. 

518
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,640
Pre-orders will ship July 24th 
2024. 

519
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,440
The origins is in two weeks, 
which is June it. 

520
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Won't be for that. 
June 19, Yeah, but it should be 

521
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,160
there for Gen. 
Con, hopefully. 

522
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Yeah, so, yeah, so. 
So that was Middle Ages. 

523
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Who else can we listen to? 
Right, because met a lot of 

524
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,040
people during open games. 
Got a few. 

525
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:30,400
So there's Jack. 
So Jack is the son of May, which

526
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640
I think is play together board 
gaming Jack. 

527
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,280
I asked Jack what his highlight 
was and this is what Jack had to

528
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
say. 
We had a few false starts on the

529
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
recording. 
This these are these are the 

530
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,960
highlights of the recording I've
had to edit, but it was good. 

531
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:52,040
OK. 
What was the highlight of UK 

532
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Games Expo today? 
Best thing? 

533
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Best thing? 
Yeah, I know what highlight 

534
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960
means. 
I do a flashback instead. 

535
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,280
Terraria of award games. 
Why? 

536
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Why? 
Because. 

537
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:17,520
Because, well, I like to 
Terraria and and just the 

538
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,520
gameplay seemed interesting. 
Pretty good summary. 

539
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240
I mean. 
Terraria is on is on Kickstarter

540
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,520
right now. 
The game they had a a big 

541
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,480
presence. 
I mean, he did look, I mean, if 

542
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920
you've played the computer game,
then he had a good, you know, 

543
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440
replication of it. 
Jack was super excited for 

544
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Terraria and said what you said.
Brilliant. 

545
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,440
I love it. 
Who's our youngest? 

546
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Then we met Alex Pink Meeple. 
So here's some of the the new 

547
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Instagramers who I hadn't met 
before. 

548
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,800
So for the first time this year.
So let's hear what Alex had to 

549
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,360
say. 
I'm Alex. 

550
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,560
I'm pink Meeple. 
My absolute highlight has been 

551
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,320
meeting all the Instagramers. 
I've loved walking around all of

552
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,080
the stools and things. 
Alley Cat has been absolutely 

553
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
beautiful. 
Been meeting all the 

554
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,960
instagramers and playing games 
and I'm so sad that PJ isn't 

555
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,240
here. 
I'm, I'm, I really wish I I've 

556
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,960
met him. 
Well, thank you, Alex. 

557
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,640
I wish I had to meet you too. 
That was nice of her. 

558
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000
It was nice of her I didn't, and
I didn't pay her either. 

559
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,800
I mean, it was not. 
There's no charges there. 

560
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,520
And then straight after meeting 
Alex, could you play Han or you 

561
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160
got some guy golf? 
I've got an Alex story. 

562
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,560
So Thursday press day, she was 
waiting for her ride to pick her

563
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120
up from the hotel. 
So I'm guessing this is 4:00 in 

564
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,240
the afternoon. 
And she's like, I'm just so 

565
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,520
nervous. 
And I'm like, make sure you 

566
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320
drink. 
You drink plenty of water. 

567
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,800
She she get that? 
She sends me a photograph of her

568
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,880
holding, like it's just her hand
holding a bottle of water. 

569
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,000
She goes, I got it covered. 
I was like, you're going to be 

570
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,360
fine. 
I really am. 

571
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,360
I am. 
I am such a. 

572
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Wound, Sir. 
He's the he's the fuel of an X, 

573
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,200
an expert. 
It's good. 

574
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,320
And then with Alex was Hannah. 
So Hannah has games. 

575
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Let's see what Hannah had to 
say. 

576
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,520
I'm Hannah. 
I'm Han. 

577
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Han plays games on Instagram, 
and the highlight for me was 

578
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,120
meeting all of the Instagramers 
at the preview, especially pink 

579
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,640
meeple Alex, who buddied up with
me for the evening, and then 

580
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,080
actually introducing my sister 
to everyone. 

581
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,680
She isn't in the online 
community, so we need to drag 

582
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,560
her in. 
But yeah, playing games with 

583
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,360
everyone, it's been amazing. 
Perfect, you see. 

584
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600
That's awesome. 
I told Alex I was like, you need

585
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,680
a buddy because it's her. 
It was her first convention. 

586
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160
I was like, find a buddy that 
you could just connect with and 

587
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,320
you know, you know, take your 
time, pace yourself. 

588
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
I've been getting a lot of 
questions on Instagram about, 

589
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,120
hey, this is my first Gen. 
Con. 

590
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,360
What do I do? 
What do I do? 

591
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000
And of course, I tell every 
people, go listen to episode one

592
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400
of Meeple to Meeple. 
Go wow, that. 

593
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Is what we. 
Pop on episode. 

594
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,800
That is what we talk about. 
But yeah, I tell everyone just 

595
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,000
to pace yourselves, take time. 
If you've got to step away, you 

596
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,040
don't have to see everything and
visit with everyone all at one 

597
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800
time. 
Unless you're Gareth, who's 

598
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,840
trying to do it all in a day. 
And I absolutely would spread it

599
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,000
out if I was. 
I was exhausted. 

600
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560
So there was. 
So there was one stand that you 

601
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000
all know well. 
So there was Paverson games, 

602
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,760
yes, which of course is one of 
your favorite games is the 

603
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,080
still. 
The still. 

604
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Dave or Dave Beck, who's the 
designer of that game is also 

605
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,760
demo was demoing showing Luthier
with the show which is coming to

606
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Kickstarter sometime this year 
this. 

607
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,880
Year. 
This year. 

608
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,800
So Dave, give me an overview of 
luthier. 

609
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,239
Would you like to listen? 
I would love to listen. 

610
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,760
Are you kidding? 
Because like, I was super 

611
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,040
excited. 
I love the art, the print, the 

612
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,400
colours are so bold. 
All about musical instruments. 

613
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Let's see what Dave had to say. 
Luthier is all about crafting 

614
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
instruments. 
In the golden age of classical 

615
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239
music. 
You play as a luthier, head of a

616
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,320
luthier family, where you are 
going to be working and helping 

617
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,080
patrons, crafting instruments 
for them using a unique mechanic

618
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,880
we like to call a hidden bidding
worker placement, where all of 

619
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560
your different workers or your 
family members on the bottom 

620
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,000
side of their disk has a number 
that kind of attributes to their

621
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,880
skill. 
So you get to place that out on 

622
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,920
the board. 
You know what it is, but others 

623
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,280
don't. 
So there's some hidden bidding 

624
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,760
worker placement. 
There's some area control with 

625
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
putting instruments in the 
orchestra itself, as well as 

626
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,320
some resource management in the 
engine building. 

627
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,840
It's a really heavily thematic 
game, just like this still was 

628
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,040
for us at Pay Version Games. 
This one, of course, is all 

629
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160
about music researching, being 
historically accurate with over 

630
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,760
40 different people from music 
history as well. 

631
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Launches on Kickstarter on July 
16th, and Vincent Du Trade is 

632
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,080
the artist. 
We're really excited. 

633
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
We're going to offer some really
deluxe upgrade options for those

634
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,160
Kickstarter backers that like to
see that too. 

635
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Absolutely. 
Stunning up, right? 

636
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Yeah. 
Thank you. 

637
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440
Thanks for your time. 
Thanks a lot. 

638
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
It's good. 
So we're going to do an episode 

639
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,240
one day and see if you can say 
it with me. 

640
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Hidden bidding worker placement.
Hidden bidding worker placement.

641
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,240
Oh my God, that just. 
Sounds cool. 

642
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,880
I mean I've it's the game that 
closest resembles it is a game 

643
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,360
called Francis Drake, which is a
schemes is discs where you you 

644
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,480
put out where you're going to 
visit, which is kind of like 

645
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,720
when the order and I was like, 
that's feels like Francis Drake.

646
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,760
But then it was you put them out
on I think it was a it was a 

647
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,760
violin strings and then you flip
them over. 

648
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,760
I mean artwork. 
It's so bold, colourful. 

649
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,240
The gameplay looked looked 
really nice. 

650
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,720
Lots of different ways of 
scoring points, like get going 

651
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,280
somewhere 1st and getting being 
kicked out right. 

652
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,080
We will try and get them on the 
show, so we'll try and get that 

653
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,280
in before. 
Well, we got a month. 

654
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Was it 16th of July? 
16th of July. 

655
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,920
Two months ago and then. 
I will definitely see them at 

656
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,840
Gen. 
Con, so we should probably 

657
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,120
connect that quickly. 
So so Craig, Craig get into 

658
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,840
games. 
Him and his wife, they did an 

659
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Instagram Live where they had 
just finished visiting with 

660
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Patterson looking at luthier and
you chimed in. 

661
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,760
You you came in on his Instagram
Live while you were at a table 

662
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,720
and it was very noisy. 
It it was impossible. 

663
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640
I was like, that didn't work. 
I couldn't hear a thing. 

664
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,680
But. 
We could hear you because I was 

665
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,000
watching from home. 
So you were playing a game. 

666
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
It looked like you were 
three-dimensional like. 

667
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Yes, Yeah. 
I'm just going to get the image 

668
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
because I've never forgotten. 
So it was from Hashtag Games. 

669
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:22,760
OK, you were cats. 
Nekojima, NEKOJIMAIIMA, 

670
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Nekojima, basically your cats. 
I'm sorry. 

671
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,840
You are building these wooden 
poles which are like Telegraph 

672
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,600
wires. 
And then there's wires, string 

673
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680
in different colours and you 
roll the dice and you have to 

674
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,280
put, you pick up one of the two 
bits of string, bits of string 

675
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,480
with two poles on it, all 
different lengths and you stack 

676
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,080
them up. 
So it's the dexterity game. 

677
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,880
I'm a nightmare for it. 
And then sometimes you've got to

678
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,440
hang the cats on the string. 
But like the strings can't touch

679
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
other strings, you can't touch 
the ground, they can't hang out.

680
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,480
It's a that's like buckaroo 
basically, but with bits of 

681
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,560
string and wood. 
And I really enjoyed it, but I 

682
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,720
couldn't hear what they were 
saying. 

683
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,480
So I decided to abandon 
abandoned my Instagram live with

684
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,600
them. 
I wish, I wish people could see 

685
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840
you. 
I'm sitting here watching you 

686
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,320
describe this game and your body
is. 

687
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,600
These games are like, they're my
nemesis. 

688
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,280
Like I'm not very good at 
dexterity games, but it turns 

689
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,160
out I won something else. 
Well, there you go. 

690
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Looked it all over. 
So yes, Alicia, go check it out.

691
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Yep, If you remember the last Be
Fair episode for last that we 

692
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,320
had the raffle right at the end 
and I won a copy of Heat on the 

693
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Sunday. 
I want a fixed raffle and I want

694
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,760
a copy of distilled. 
So I was like, yes. 

695
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,280
So I then sent all of the friend
Gareth to get the bits of promo 

696
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,880
that I didn't have on the Sunday
for me. 

697
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,080
So I had the complete 
collection. 

698
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,920
I love how I've I've backed 
distilled. 

699
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,640
I've been Greg and I have both 
been trying to get you to play 

700
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,680
distilled. 
I'll just go win a copy. 

701
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,240
Yeah, you win a copy and then 
you got an autographed card. 

702
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,160
But that will be. 
That's Gareth, Yeah, Yeah. 

703
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
So you got me on by because I 
said to Gareth, go and see what 

704
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360
promos there were and he got 
there and there was one promo 

705
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,840
left and the coins and then the 
new slightly more complex cards.

706
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,240
Yeah. 
So yes, it was the last pack of 

707
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,800
cards until they was signing. 
Just signed it for Gareth. 

708
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,160
So that's nice. 
So I haven't played it yet, but 

709
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,600
I got to say punching that game 
put it away. 

710
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,520
That is some awesome storage. 
You. 

711
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,320
It is. 
Yeah, it is. 

712
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,400
It's a beautiful game, the 
artwork's beautiful. 

713
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,240
You. 
Need you need to play. 

714
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Yeah. 
It is, it is fantastic. 

715
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,480
It is fantastic. 
Well, ah, we've got another 

716
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,960
clip. 
So board game Weymouth and 

717
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080
that's BORED that's. 
Dan and Page. 

718
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Dan and Page, what a beautiful 
couple. 

719
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Let's see what Bev got to say. 
So we are Paige and Dan from 

720
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,240
Boredom Games Weymouth. 
Boredom dot games dot Weymouth. 

721
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,480
You should probably get the 
handle right. 

722
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,560
So this has been our first UK 
games Expo. 

723
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,160
We've only been able to do the 1
1/2 days, the Thursday night and

724
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
the Friday. 
It's been brilliant, really, 

725
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,360
it's been good fun. 
Yeah, what's the hike? 

726
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,520
I think everybody's going to say
it. 

727
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,160
But I think it's the people. 
We met some great people at Air 

728
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Con and then we've met some 
great people again here. 

729
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,520
We met people at Cajunton and 
it's just growing that community

730
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,200
and everybody's so friendly and 
welcoming and we've had a great 

731
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,840
time bumping into people and 
seeing, seeing lots of new 

732
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,640
friends. 
Yeah, I'd agree with that. 

733
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,240
Yeah, Sitting down and playing 
games with people. 

734
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,160
It's been really nice this 
evening. 

735
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,040
It's been brilliant. 
They squeeze it in on a day and,

736
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,640
well, a day and evening as well.
Yeah, yeah, Super top. 

737
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,440
Dan and Paige are some of the 
most delightful folks ever. 

738
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,880
I I had the the they were kind 
enough to transport Katie and I 

739
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,000
from the hotel. 
That's right, Yeah. 

740
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,800
And. 
And so it gave us it gave us a 

741
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680
little bit of time. 
I mean, how much time do you 

742
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,640
really get to just kind of visit
before the chaos of the gaming? 

743
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,440
But yeah, I did get to play. 
I got to play Terror Scape with 

744
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Dan at Cajun Con. 
I don't think I got to play 

745
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,960
anything with Paige. 
So that's disappointing. 

746
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,480
I think I played Kundora. 
I'm pretty sure. 

747
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,600
I'm pretty sure I did. 
I'm really thrilled, I'm 

748
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,200
thrilled that they made it and I
hope more people get to meet 

749
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680
them because they are lovely. 
Yeah, we've got games today with

750
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,960
them coming up here so. 
Good. 

751
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,760
Then late evening I sat with 
Brad. 

752
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:04,640
So of my under score shelf life.
If you know Brad's account, he 

753
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,720
goes off a little tangent. 
So this is what Brad had to say.

754
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,240
Random. 
Getting a tossit suit from the 

755
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,240
Tossit Germany. 
No that hasn't happened yet 

756
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,960
because I haven't jumped them, 
but that will be my highlight 

757
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,440
tomorrow. 
I. 

758
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,720
I don't know whether he jumped 
somebody for a tossit suit or 

759
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,200
what the tossit suit looks like.
Or whether there was. 

760
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,760
Even a tossit suit at the venue.
But I don't know that that was 

761
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Brad. 
So if you want some comedy in 

762
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,640
your life, go check out Brad at 
My Under Score Shelf Life. 

763
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Shelf life. 
And we have one more from the 

764
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,200
other Gareth. 
Oh, so there's 2O GS, there's 

765
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,320
the original Gareth, and then 
there's the other Gareth. 

766
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,480
So they're both called the OG. 
So it makes it really confusing.

767
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,840
It's here what Ice and Dice 
Games had to say. 

768
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Hi, I'm the preferable Gareth, 
also known as Ice and Dice 

769
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,040
games. 
I've just had a great time 

770
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,800
walking around meeting great 
people doing their favorite 

771
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,520
thing. 
Amongst everyone else doing 

772
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480
their favorite thing. 
Playing games. 

773
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:18,120
Playing games beautiful. 
You know, that's that's that's 

774
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,320
definitely what everyone says. 
You hear that more and more as 

775
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,800
we really are as the tagline of 
our podcast, right as uniting 

776
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,040
players around the world. 
You definitely see that. 

777
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,400
I think Gen. 
Con to a little bit and Essen 

778
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,200
for sure don't. 
So the reality is, while we're a

779
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,440
community and this is a hobby, 
it's also a business. 

780
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Yeah, yeah. 
And and Gen. 

781
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,360
Con and Essen are not 
necessarily the best place for 

782
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,400
us to connect and celebrate. 
It's business. 

783
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,840
It's business and IT. 
It's the business. 

784
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,120
Based on what I saw here on this
side of the Atlantic, I think 

785
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,440
Origins, which I'll be at in two
weeks, is really similar in 

786
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:13,160
terms of size and the crowd and 
everything as the Games Expo. 

787
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840
So and I'm really looking 
forward to that. 

788
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,880
It's also going to be Katie's 
first Origins. 

789
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,200
She's never been. 
Oh, really? 

790
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Yeah, I didn't know that. 
So here's the funny part. 

791
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,160
She was a gamer before we met, 
right? 

792
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,120
So it's. 
Origins last year, didn't you? 

793
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640
I did. 
I worked for Wise Wizard games. 

794
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,080
Oh yeah, that's fun. 
Yeah, OK. 

795
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,240
'Cause I worked with Treasure 
Bell and Danielle Reynolds, who 

796
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,880
I will see. 
OK, so that's exciting. 

797
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Danielle Reynolds, her game 
caution signs. 

798
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Oh yeah. 
It was a pre release at the 

799
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,240
Games Expo. 
It's going to be released at 

800
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,640
Origin. 
So we're going to try and get 

801
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
her on this summer. 
I saw her at Geek Way. 

802
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,440
She's got a busy summer so we're
going to try to get her on the 

803
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,760
show soon as well, but it'll be 
Katie's first origins and I 

804
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,760
think it's going to be lovely. 
Yeah, I think you should have a 

805
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480
great time. 
It's going to be a lot of fun, 

806
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,560
so yeah. 
It's worth Danny Stranding 

807
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:13,360
posted and how different the 
UKGE was to US events. 

808
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,600
And then walking back on the 
Friday night midnight, there's 

809
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,040
about a 10 minute walk back to 
hotels and I was minding my own 

810
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,360
business talking to Kira and 
then with a couple of other 

811
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,080
friends. 
And then my friend goes, Hey, 

812
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,200
your other friend just walked 
past. 

813
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,400
And this other friend was now 
with about a minute away and, 

814
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920
and who was he? 
So it was Carly and Ross. 

815
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,560
And I was like, ah, it was just 
like, it was, I'll be running 

816
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,240
off them. 
So I think Carly spent the 

817
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,760
entire weekend just playing 
games and didn't get into the 

818
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,200
show and just chilled out. 
So everyone did their own thing.

819
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,800
And I think that's that's 
important. 

820
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,160
You do what you want to do. 
You know, I tried to get a bit 

821
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,320
of everything in, but if I had 
the other three days, I 

822
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,400
definitely would have had a day 
just chilled out in the hotel or

823
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,480
chilled out in the open gaming, 
playing games to make the most 

824
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,600
of I guess the time we had there
the. 

825
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:14,920
The thing that I noticed is for 
people who've never been to 

826
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:21,240
conventions before, there's a 
perception for whatever reason, 

827
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,960
ill or bad, that you have to do 
everything. 

828
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,280
And I really like somebody 
posted it. 

829
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,200
I know that this community is so
big. 

830
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,840
I wish there were more of me to 
go around just so I could keep 

831
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,880
in touch with everyone. 
It's a real challenge. 

832
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,360
I spend most of my weekends just
touch and base with everyone and

833
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,200
it's like, but you can 
experience the convention at 

834
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,800
your own pace. 
You can do whatever you want. 

835
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:53,680
It doesn't make you a bad gamer,
a good gamer, one is better than

836
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,080
the other. 
I think our community is coming 

837
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,880
around to that more and not 
succumbing to the pressure of I 

838
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,400
have to do everything now. 
You and I are sadists and we 

839
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,800
must enjoy pain so we try to do 
as much as we can in a short 

840
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,360
period of time as possible. 
Which I guess makes me kind of a

841
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,400
hypocrite because I tell people 
they don't have to and then I 

842
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,800
try to do it so. 
You just you just test it to 

843
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,960
make sure that your advice is 
sensible because you've got 

844
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,320
first hand experience and how 
silly is to try and do to try 

845
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,360
and do all of it. 
I think it. 

846
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,800
Really is. 
I certainly, I guess because we 

847
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,720
did squeeze a day in. 
I then saw pictures of stands 

848
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:44,640
and games that I just must have 
missed, which is often what the 

849
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,880
Sunday is like. 
You then start reading the 

850
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,560
socials, you read people's 
reviews. 

851
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,160
You're like, man, where was 
that? 

852
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,000
And you've like, we'll pass it 
three times because either it's 

853
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,120
been surrounded by people or 
just you can't, you know, 

854
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,440
there's so much to look at and 
see. 

855
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,280
It is a fantastic, you know, few
days. 

856
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,280
So what was the highlight for 
you? 

857
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,360
What's so let me? 
Let me let me say I didn't. 

858
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,240
Play many games with the 
highlight. 

859
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,320
So I hadn't played a game. 
In fact we didn't play. 

860
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,160
I didn't play any games on 
Thursday. 

861
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,360
It was five was on Friday. 
I left Thursday without playing 

862
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,440
games because I was spending too
much time talking to people and 

863
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,760
watching other people play 
games. 

864
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,080
So Kira's playing games. 
But at one point Flavian from 

865
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Hachette called me over to look 
at a game that's that's not 

866
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,000
released yet and got my opinions
on. 

867
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,520
So I spent half an hour talking 
about that. 

868
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,520
So I just end up socialising and
I found that throughout the 

869
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,440
throughout the weekend and it's 
what everyone else said. 

870
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,920
So not weekend of the Thursday, 
Friday, even in the press event,

871
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,960
I kept bumping into people who 
we knew and just spent to spend 

872
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,360
time catching up. 
And that's the highlight is 

873
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,440
still the community. 
I think I said it last year, 

874
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,480
it's crazy that a lot of people 
we met through Instagram, 

875
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,840
through COVID times and we've 
stayed close, whether they're 

876
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,560
from this country or from it's 
from Holland's or from Germany 

877
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,440
or from from Belgium or from the
UK, you know, we've got a great 

878
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,880
community on Instagram and long 
may it continue. 

879
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,560
Yes, Yep. 
So for those of those of you who

880
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,840
are listening to this, I know a 
lot of you wait and binge a 

881
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,480
bunch of episodes on the way to 
some of the conventions. 

882
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,440
So those of you who are going to
Origins and are listening to 

883
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,840
this at that time, I will be at 
Origins on Friday. 

884
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,040
We will be there probably about 
8:00 in the morning. 

885
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,400
We're there for the whole day. 
We've only got one event 

886
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:51,520
scheduled, so be on the lookout.
I have, I have new stickers, 

887
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,800
yes, because I knew I was going 
to be at Origins for one day. 

888
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,600
So I've got new stickers to give
out to everyone. 

889
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,400
And then whatever's left over, I
will be giving out a Gen. 

890
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Con. 
I'll be there on the Sunday of 

891
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,320
Gen. 
Con, the last. 

892
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,080
Day. 
Oh, see. 

893
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,400
Is. 
There bingo? 

894
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,600
Is there a bingo at Gen. 
Con? 

895
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Because I was like Friday 
surprise. 

896
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:18,560
No, so that's, that's something 
unique in the UK, America, at 

897
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,160
least in what I've seen so far 
make it we could do the bingo. 

898
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,680
You could do it. 
Well, I think the bingo should 

899
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,080
be is that everyone has to find 
me and take a picture with me. 

900
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:27,560
This. 
Year. 

901
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Oh yeah, I had that. 
People are hunting me down. 

902
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,280
PJ told me to find you. 
Where are you? 

903
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,040
I'm hiding here. 
It was fun. 

904
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,320
It was really good fun. 
So when to Origins is next? 

905
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,960
Two weeks away. 
Origins Origins is 2 weeks away.

906
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,000
And you're there. 
Which day? 

907
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,600
That is the Friday. 
You're there this Friday, and 

908
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,200
there's Jenkins. 
You're there on the Sunday. 

909
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,160
I'm there on the Sunday, August 
4th. 

910
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,480
We do have a hotel room, so 
we're staying overnight just for

911
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,040
the sun. 
So we'll be there all day 

912
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,240
Sunday, but we'll be available 
Sunday evening for anyone that 

913
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:05,040
you're still around, and then 
we're going to drive home that 

914
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,680
day, so. 
Yeah, we we talked about maybe 

915
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,160
staying the Sunday night every 
day. 

916
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,920
Oh. 
You it's it's worth. 

917
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,040
Like, like people, people say to
me, they're playing games right 

918
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,160
till like 11:00 on Sun on Sunday
evening and then they went home 

919
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,080
Monday morning and I was like, 
actually it's not a bad idea. 

920
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Absolutely squeeze the most. 
Because you have what? 

921
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,520
It's a three hour drive. 
Right, two hours. 

922
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Two hours. 
Yeah, See, I think you should do

923
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,440
that. 
Yeah. 

924
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,520
You should definitely do that. 
So I hope you enjoyed the 

925
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
episode. 
Thank you PJ for listening to my

926
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,080
Tales of the UK Games X-ray. 
Thank you for sharing everybody.

927
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,240
Hearing your tales from origins 
in a couple of weeks time. 

928
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,000
And so one last piece of 
housekeeping, of course, we have

929
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,720
a, we have a bonus episode 
that's going to be dropping 

930
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,520
after this one same day. 
So when you're done listening to

931
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,960
this episode, there's a bonus 
episode that I recorded a few 

932
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,960
days ago on my own. 
I talked with Ren Multimacki 

933
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,560
from Dragon Dawn Publications. 
We're talking about his new game

934
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,560
that's coming to Kickstarter 
this summer, Verdun. 

935
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,400
He was kind enough to give me. 
And so we're sharing it with all

936
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,280
of our listeners now. 
If you go to ddpgames.com, 

937
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,360
ddpgames.com. 
So Dragon Dawn Productions, 

938
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,400
right, ddpgames.com. 
And you enter the discount code 

939
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,400
for listeners of this podcast 
only. 

940
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,800
It is meeple to meeple with the 
number 2. 

941
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:45,640
You'll get a 10% discount on all
products On his website. 

942
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,520
He's got several games. 
Listen to the bonus episode and 

943
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,640
you'll hear his story. 
It's only like 20, 22 minutes. 

944
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Also there was a little hiccup 
in the recording, so there might

945
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,360
be really, really early on it 
might seem like there was a cut.

946
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,200
We tried to do it recorded 
appropriately, but Gareth's a 

947
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,040
whiz. 
He'll edit. 

948
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,840
It see how my cutting editing 
skills are later, yeah? 

949
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,720
So I apologize for that, but 
again, that's that's Renmulta 

950
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,120
Mackey from Dragon Dawn 
Productions. 

951
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Meeple to meeple is the it's all
one word with the number two in 

952
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,360
the middle. 
That's the discount code. 

953
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,680
You get 10% off of anything at 
ddpgames.com. 

954
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,760
So check that out and. 
Yeah, good work. 

955
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,480
Well done, PJ. 
Thanks everyone for listening 

956
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,800
and we'll see you soon. 
Thanks everyone for listening, 

957
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,160
please subscribe and as always, 
we'd love to hear your thoughts 

958
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,880
and ideas, so make sure to leave
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959
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,920
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960
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,520
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