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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple 
uniting players from around the 

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world, a 30 minute exploration 
of PJ and Galas ball game 

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experiences from across both 
sides of the Atlantic. 

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Each episode, they share their 
thoughts and opinions on the 

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world of board games, including 
their favorite themes, games, 

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hot topics, and much, much more.
Hey gang, we are back. 

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Hello, I am PJ and I am Gareth. 
And welcome to Meeble and meble,

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guys. 
Dang man, Gareth. 

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It's been a while, yeah. 
Thank God because it it is hot. 

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It's been a summer break. 
I've been away, you've been 

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away. 
We've been to conventions, we've

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been on a holiday, we've been to
game cafes and now it is 

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summer's nearly over. 
Autumn's on its way. 

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Christmas is nearly. 
It is hot and I am ready for a 

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little cooler weather. 
Yeah, it's nice. 

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Been pretty well miserable over 
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the rest of Europe, so I've been
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However, I am looking forward to
hearing about Gencom. 

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I've read about it. 
I've seen people queuing up 6:30

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the night before for a certain 
card game. 

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I'm sure you gotta tell me about
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And you've been recording sound 
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I have. 
I've been recording sound bites,

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although I have a bone to pick 
with you real quick. 

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I tried almost every day at 
Gencon to do like a little live 

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FaceTime with you while I was at
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everyone from the community. 
You're just a busy, busy boy. 

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Well, we were at Alton Towers, 
which is a theme park in the UK 

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for three days, and in the hotel
we had Wi-Fi only in I think, in

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the bar anyway. 
So I think every time you tried 

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we we didn't connect. 
But you can share with me now. 

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Yes. 
Absolutely. 

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So we spent a week in 
Washington, DC for a work 

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conference. 
We came home, yeah, you have 

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that as well. 
And it was 100 degrees 

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Fahrenheit. 
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Celsius for my European friends,
but it's hot. 

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And then we came home, did 
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and drove to Gencon. 
Which is what we're here to talk

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about. 
And what's the drive? 

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Three hours? 
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That's pretty crazy. 
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It's four hours because the time
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time zone it. 
Moves the The border between 

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Illinois and Indiana is the is 
the time shift. 

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It's the time shift so see I 
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We have those problems in the UK
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Scotland. 
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right? 
Sort of. 

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Same three hours and I'll be 
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Yep. 
Yeah, so. 

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So we get the Gencon. 
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when Wednesday? 
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Tuesday. 
Tuesday and it can starts on. 

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Thursday. 
Are you doing the math or is 

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everyone following along? 
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and my wife and I just have a 
casual dinner that was 

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beautiful. 
We spent most of the day on 

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Wednesday with family. 
My nephew is about to turn three

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years old. 
So we did a little went to the 

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children's Museum, went to it 
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which is a local cider. 
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restaurant, so we would have 
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That was fun. 
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consignment sale where we sold a
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We had about 2020 25 games that 
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In the consignment sale and 
hopefully we sold them all. 

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We have no idea When'd you find 
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We could have found out on 
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stand in line and we didn't want
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So we're going to get an e-mail 
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like, you sold this many games. 
Not online, no, no. 

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Yeah, UK Games X Photos is 
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You can always check live. 
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on its own network, right? 
And so you can't. 

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You know, I don't know. 
I don't know how all that works.

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You basically dump it, you dump 
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it's like a little surprise. 
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What about the stuff it hasn't 
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It goes to charity. 
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OK. 
It goes to charity. 

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And so we don't ever pick any 
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We don't pick them up. 
We're like, let them have it. 

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So, but, so the theme of this 
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break up. 
We're going to break up the 

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Gencon story into three 
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You have a busy plan? 
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Very busy. 
So this is called Gencon Story 

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and this is part one which we're
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a community, right. 
So this is going to be everyone 

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from the Instagram community. 
You're going to hear sound bites

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from many of them that I met. 
Next week will be design a story

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and it'll be the we'll hear from
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And then finally the third part 
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my perspective and my 
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So. 
So I'm gonna table PJ for our 

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listeners. 
I know that's really difficult 

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for the Cajun gamer. 
See whether she's actually gonna

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happen. 
I can see episodes merging. 

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I'm gonna let's see how we go. 
I'm gonna table my perspective 

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as much as possible and so yeah,
I guess do we. 

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So we wanna go ahead and start 
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And, yeah, so, I mean, I think 
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Yes. 
First, let's hear what Catherine

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has to say. 
Hi, I'm Catherine. 

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My Instagram handle is Catherine
E Dowell, and I attended Gen. 

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Con 2023 with my family. 
It's really great sharing the 

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board game hobby with your 
family until you have to share 

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the board game hobby with your 
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For us, that means that we 
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Friday I had all to myself. 
Saturday my partner had all to 

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themselves and Sunday we 
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My favorite purchase was 
Forbidden Jungle where I waited 

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in line and got Matt Lecock 
signature had it dedicated to 

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me. 
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My favorite event was The Friday
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where I got to sit down and play
Test Vector by Chris Couch 

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Games. 
And Sunday we just walked around

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As a family, I really enjoy Gen.
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It's a little big for its 
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really is punctuated by being 
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games. 
So did you Did you try Vector? 

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I've not heard of it. 
I did not. 

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I did not try Vector. 
I didn't get a chance, but I'm 

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glad that she did. 
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She lives her and her family 
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wife grew up and she lives like 
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So, so now when we go, yeah, 
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can call Catherine and meet at a
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making friends. 
Yes. 

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Yeah, I I love it's, it's crazy,
isn't it really. 

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I know. 
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you know, particularly America 
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That that's a fair point. 
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But right on that tin, baby I 
love. 

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Yeah. 
Did did you get to play the 

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Forbidden Game? 
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We didn't get it, but we we 
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table I'm tabling myself this 
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So we'll talk about my 
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Right then. 
So I think, I think we've got 

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TJ. 
Is it TJ? 

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Oh yeah, you're in for a treat. 
Let me play. 

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Yo, what's good everybody? 
My name is TJ from TJ Plays, and

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if you ain't listening to the 
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what is you doing? 
Look, I want to talk about my 

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first Gencon real quick. 
I didn't really know what to 

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expect. 
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the whole weekend is this. 
These people make up the best 

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community in the world, and I 
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I met some amazing people, from 
casual gamers to social media 

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influencers and guess what? 
It was all super dope. 

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Not only that, but also got to 
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influencer events where I got to
play and see some amazing games.

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I think my favorite game from 
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Time from AEG. 
I don't know what it is about 

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that puzzle but damn it looks 
delicious. 

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Shout out to them for the copy 
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If you've never been to Gen. 
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your friends together, create a 
plan, and make some of the best 

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memories in the board game 
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Because I loved every second of 
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Who knows, maybe I'll see you 
there next year. 

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But until then, it's TJ from TJ 
Plays and I'm out. 

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Peace, peace, man. 
I need to meet TJ. 

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You do. 
So what can I say about TJ? 

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But he is just so energetic and 
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community. 
Not gaming, but the community 

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itself. 
Really great supporter, great 

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friend. 
He's doing a giveaway soon on 

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Instagram, so we're really 
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TJ, thank you so much. 
Thank you for being who you are,

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really enjoyed meeting you. 
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Foundations of Rome, I think, on
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And I think I want to play. 
I'm not playing, yeah. 

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Well, you got you got Dizz just 
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She got it, she. 
Got it. 

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She has it. 
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So you. 
You should do that. 

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Have her teach you. 
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And thank you. 
I feel like the joke. 

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The joke is that, you know, it's
TJ plays. 

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I'm like, yeah, but it was. 
TJ teaches. 

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At least it was Thursday night, 
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But yeah, I mean even waffle 
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Again, I haven't looked up 
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That's a new game to me. 
I need to check it out. 

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It looks. 
It looks. 

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TJ said it best. 
It looks delicious. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's, I was 
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said. 
So he's going to check that out.

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So again, I guess TJ will do a 
review. 

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He's got a copy, so there'll be 
content on his channel. 

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So go and check out TJ And yeah,
thanks for shouting out as well 

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for the compliments on the 
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Up next is another K This time 
we got Kristen. 

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Hi, I'm Kristen Mott. 
I'm a game designer and a home 

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school mom of three. 
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Con this year was meeting a lot 
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current games to different 
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My least favorite part was the 
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This year I am on Instagram as 
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If you ever want to just chat 
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I'd saw the cues. 
I do feel there was a crazy Cues

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man on those test couple of 
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The first day was a nightmare 
and all I can say is Disney. 

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Laura Kana, I mean, that's all I
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I think it was day one. 
The cues were outside and there 

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was already a queue inside. 
So day two, they made you queue 

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for the Disney game from 6:30 in
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Yes, for the to getting at 10, 
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10A10 AM, 10:00 AM and people 
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I would probably say people 
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midnight. 
Yeah, but they said six, man. 

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So I want to say about Kristen. 
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the Rolling Right Game dinosaur 
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Is that new? 
I mean, it's been out for a 

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year, right? 
Kristen will probably text me 

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later on and be like, hey, it's 
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I love a rolling right? 
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game that we bought for our boss
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He has six kids. 
They loved it. 

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And I told our boss is like, you
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Kristen at, you know, at Gencon.
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together a little thing, a 
little collage of photos of them

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playing Dinosaur Island, our 
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museum in front of fossils and 
like a little note saying thank 

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you to Kristen for me to give to
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So she met us at the hotel and 
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You know the little picture 
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We took a picture of me handing 
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She then gave me another copy of
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signed it to all six of the kids
on the side. 

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So we gave it to them. 
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Kristen's amazing. 
She's really fantastic. 

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And the fact that she is a 
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really influenced her creation 
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She had homeschooling families 
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there's some other games in 
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There are she, she was really 
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We, a bunch of us got together 
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her and then it was like she was
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know, the business side. 
So, but yeah, I had to plug that

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and tell that story because it's
a good one. 

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So I'm gonna have to check out 
is that a release? 

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Is it available? 
No, it's been picked up by a 

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publisher and it will be 
available soon. 

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It was a Kickstarter and. 
Yeah, so, so this copies out in 

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the world. 
If you can find a copy of 

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dinosaur exhibit exhibit. 
Get it? 

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It's great loving. 
It Kristen Mott can't go wrong. 

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OK, let's listen to I think it's
Adri. 

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Adri. 
Adri. 

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Adri. 
Yes, here we go. 

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Hi, this is Adri. 
I'm wandering people on 

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Instagram. 
My favorite Momina Jancon is 

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always going to be meeting with 
my old and new friends. 

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Getting to spend some time with 
them playing board games or just

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chatting a little bit and 
getting to know each other a lot

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more. 
My favorite game played at Gen. 

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Con. 
Actually two games. 

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First one is Kutna. 
Hora, the City of Silver from 

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Check Games. 
That's a game that is going to 

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be released in Essen. 
It's so good if you have the 

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chance to. 
Check it out and play it I. 

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Recommended And the other one is
a game I love to play, but I 

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have been playing it a lot on 
board game arena, not in real 

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life. 
And this time I had the chance 

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to play it in real life with my 
friend son. 

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It's a. 
Space base. 

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I love it, man. 
I love space base too. 

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And I picked up with City of 
Silver. 

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I missed the first word. 
Yeah. 

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I don't. 
I didn't. 

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I didn't catch it either. 
I'm not familiar. 

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It's out. 
It's out. 

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Essen City of Silver. 
At check games. 

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So the guys who brought you are 
now. 

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Yeah, generally, those games. 
Kuta Hora. 

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Kuta hora. 
That's it. 

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Can you tahora? 
Oh yeah, it looks nice. 

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Yep, Yeah. 
So this was my second time 

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meeting Adri. 
She is amazing, like, you know, 

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we stay in contact. 
She's just, she's such a lovely 

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human being and we got we got a 
chance to visit and everything 

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so and we got to play a lot of 
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But I missed the check games. 
I did go to the check games Expo

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Saturday night but they were 
play testing a bunch of games 

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and she got the way cut. 
Kuta What are we? 

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Kuta Hero? 
Yeah, we've just destroyed it. 

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But city? 
City of Silver It does look. 

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It does look very delightful. 
And if you're going fast, I 

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think. 
You're going to go to Essen for 

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a day. 
Is that still up in the air? 

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There's some work stuff dropped 
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I need to see whether I can 
move. 

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Otherwise, other people are 
going who we can ask to check it

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out for us. 
Yes, yes, we need to do that. 

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So, yeah. 
So that's Adri. 

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I guess one of the things I 
mean, it's coming through thick 

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and thick and clear is just the 
friendships and the community 

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stuff and just hanging out with 
friends, talking about friends, 

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happy meatballs. 
Yes, let's see what I got to 

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say. 
Hi PJ and Gareth, It's Mandy 

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from the Happy Meatballs. 
Just let you know about our 

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Gencon experience. 
This was our first time going 

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and it was amazing. 
I don't think I could ever put 

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into words for a first timer how
like vast it is. 

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There's so much to do every day,
all day. 

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Even after the vendor hall 
closed, there were so many 

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people gaming and so many places
to game. 

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We were overjoyed by seeing, you
know, a smiling face and then 

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just open arm hugs and Let's 
play games. 

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It was a wonderful, wonderful, 
wonderful feeling. 

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Thank you so much for being a 
guide in the chat and a guide 

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for letting us know what events 
were coming up. 

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We did not schedule any events, 
but we're glad to hop into a 

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couple at last minute. 
We are hoping that we have the 

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funds to go back next year 
because it is a memory that we 

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will hold on to for a long time.
I mean it sums it up so well. 

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So I was so excited to meet 
Mandy and Nick. 

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And then I found out that when 
you're when you're interacting 

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with Happy Meeples, you're 
pretty much interacting with 

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Mandy. 
OK, it's worth no range. 

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Never quite. 
You never quite know when 

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there's a when there's a. 
It's a couple, yeah. 

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It's not Nick. 
Nick is always on screen because

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she's filming, but usually when 
you're chatting with her, it's 

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Mandy. 
So my thoughts about both of 

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them is open, kind, lovely and 
energetic. 

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Those are the just they were so 
amazing. 

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They had a lot of questions. 
We had a group chat that was 

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going on Instagram ahead of 
Gencon for like weeks and I was 

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like, well, here's the events 
that we're signing up for. 

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Don't worry if you do, because 
they didn't sign up for any. 

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I'm like, yeah, you're you're 
fine, you're fine and they were 

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fine. 
It's really hard to convey the 

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vastness of Gencon. 
It's impossible. 

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But did you Did you did you see 
it? 

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I know we're going to cover your
personal view, but did you get 

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through everything? 
Not through everything, no. 

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And how many events did you do? 
And what events? 

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What event? 
Is it? 

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Events like RPG or is it? 
So events, events is kind of a 

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broad term for Gencon for that 
could be anything from going to 

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the first exposure, play, test 
all and play testing games which

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we did. 
Or events could be like they 

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teach you a game and let you 
play it in its entirety as 

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opposed to the demo. 
Demos are demos are not events. 

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Those are the, yeah. 
Or it could be True Dungeon. 

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You're going to hear about that 
today. 

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Or it's going to be about 
playing a full game, playing in 

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a tournament. 
But you, I think you pick 

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yourself on you through. 
You book them in advance with 

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tickets and they didn't do any 
and they just went in blind and 

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it was great. 
They had a good time. 

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Love you. 
Mandy and Nick. 

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Thank you for being such great 
friends and helping us create 

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the community. 
So and he's a virtual hug. 

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They're hugs. 
There's a lot of oh. 

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My gosh, yes. 
Yep. 

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OK, not up next is Jerry. 
Jerry, yes, hi, this is Jerry. 

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And on Instagram, I'm Tabletop 
worldwide. 

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My favorite thing about Gencon 
is something that probably 

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everybody's going to say, and to
the point that it may even sound

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cliche, but it's the best part 
of the people. 

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The games are great. 
The people are better. 

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For me, Gencon this time almost 
seemed like a networking event 

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more than a games event, which 
sounds a little more businessy 

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than I mean it. 
I mean, I got to meet with 

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publishers and and talk about 
some collaborations and that was

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all wonderful. 
But the best part was just 

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hanging out with my fellow 
content creators. 

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Just, you know, getting dinner, 
playing games, just enjoying 

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seeing, you know, people that we
only get to see once a year. 

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That for me was my favorite 
part. 

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My favorite game that I played 
at Gen. 

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Con in a big group was spicy. 
I would say it's a bluffing card

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game. 
That was a lot of fun and a lot 

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of laughs. 
I also enjoyed playing Sky Team 

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A2 player game that just came 
out. 

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The favorite game that I brought
home is Queen by Midnight. 

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That one just looks amazing. 
I saw it, demoed, I saw how it 

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looks on the table and I'm just 
super excited to to play that 

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one and get some more experience
with it. 

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Enjoy meeting you PJ larger than
life. 

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Really, really fun person. 
I hope to one day get to meet 

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you too, Gareth, and thanks to 
both of you for a great podcast.

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Can imagine if we could get 
everyone together, the UKUK. 

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Instagram crew, we need to have 
a meeple to meeple con on our 

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battleship, wherever it was our 
carrier with somehow the Antic. 

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Yeah, I think, I mean it sounds 
so similar to the experience 

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that we have in the UK, which is
yeah, we go, we go to buy some 

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games, but it's all about the 
network. 

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So much like in the UK, we've 
just been to Pimcon where we've 

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met up with the same group of 
people that we hang out with 

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just because it's great to hang 
out and meet friends. 

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Did you play Spicy or Queen of? 
Did not play spicy, but I did. 

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Demo Queen of Midnight, Queen by
Midnight. 

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Queen by midnight, yeah. 
Queen by midnight, yeah. 6 

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Princesses battle for the right 
of the Midnight court. 

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Yeah. 
Oh yeah, looks amazing. 

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Impress. 
Here's the problem. 

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It is a minimum three player. 
I've just seen, yeah, three to 

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six players and that is what 
stopped Katie and I from buying 

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it. 
Otherwise we would have grabbed 

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a copy. 
Yeah, I do wanna. 

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I want to express and share 
Jerry's sentiment that Gareth, I

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hope the one day meet you too. 
It has to happen. 

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I mean, I think somebody 
potentially in the in the UK is 

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gonna meet you ahead of me. 
That's may or may it happen. 

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No, that's happening. 
It's going to happen. 

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So we need to I need to share a 
hug here and then it can be 

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carried across the Atlantic and 
can be shared on the other line.

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The only other thing I could say
about Jerry was the first the 

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first word that comes to mind is
kinship. 

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He. 
As soon as I met Jerry, I felt 

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like we were like brothers and 
it was like a family. 

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So we saw each other Wednesday 
night and then I didn't see him 

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all day Thursday and Friday. 
And when I saw him Saturday 

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morning, I was like, I miss you.
It's like it's only been two 

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days. 
Did you know Jerry before Jane 

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Conn Had you took much on on we 
IG or we only talked in our 

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because he was part. 
Of in that chat. 

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Yeah, chat. 
Which is where I really got to 

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solidify some of the 
relationships ahead of Jen Go. 

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You know, it's like you 
passively know people, but yeah,

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so. 
Yeah, it is, Yeah. 

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I think it's amazing. 
Through lockdown. 

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Then when we met people 
afterwards, I know he chatted, 

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chatted, chatted to them more. 
But you you've got, I guess you 

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got a, you've got, you have got 
a connection. 

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Yeah, I think, Jerry. 
Something you just easily talk 

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about. 
Jerry's from Atlanta and he had 

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like a 7 or 8 hour drive so but 
you know what he did when he 

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drove there and back? 
He listened to a lot of episodes

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of Meatball to Meatball, so. 
There's plenty of episodes 

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people listen to. 
There really is, yeah. 

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So if you haven't listened to 
them all, head back, take a 

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listen. 
There's 46 other episodes, 

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that's right. 
OK, we have now got Raziel. 

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So OK, this is Randy. 
Randy, Randy the Random Meeple. 

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Hey hello friends. 
This is Raziel, the Random 

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Meeple in Instagram. 
Thank you Garrett and PJ for 

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inviting us to your podcast is 
awesome and an honor to be here.

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And well, I just want to say 
that the thing that I must enjoy

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from Jenkin, same as last year, 
it's the people. 

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All the gamers and meeting you 
guys and meeting all friends and

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playing with them that was the 
best of the Jenkin. 

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All the laughs and all the 
memories. 

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00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:12,790
And if you remember, we play a 
lot with them and and they 

452
00:25:12,790 --> 00:25:17,070
phrase more more common during 
the Jenkin. 

453
00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:21,550
I think it was nuts. 
PJ can tell you the story behind

454
00:25:21,550 --> 00:25:24,950
that. 
But yeah, it it was amazing. 

455
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:26,910
It was an amazing Jenkin, a lot 
of games. 

456
00:25:27,390 --> 00:25:31,470
But what I must enjoy was the 
people, the gamers playing with 

457
00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:33,150
all of you. 
Thank you. 

458
00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:36,670
Have a wonderful day guys, and I
hope I will be able to play with

459
00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:38,860
you, Garrett. 
Have a wonderful day. 

460
00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:42,580
Talk to you later guys. 
Random meeple out. 

461
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:46,820
I need to get my ticket to to 
jencom. 

462
00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:49,820
It was that was that notes. 
Yeah. 

463
00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:52,780
Nuts. 
What's the story? 

464
00:25:52,780 --> 00:25:58,060
What's the story? 
So Brian Hoffman, who is 9 to 6 

465
00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:01,940
games on Instagram, who we 
featured at Origins where I met,

466
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:04,580
we were playing. 
Well, I wasn't playing. 

467
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:07,740
They were playing a game. 
It's like this squirrel game 

468
00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:13,620
where you ask a question, would 
you rather this or that and if 

469
00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:16,100
you win you get like a squirrel 
nut. 

470
00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:19,260
Right. 
And so she put it on her 

471
00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:25,100
forehead and Brian would be like
nuts and and Adri, right. 

472
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:27,940
Especially in her accent, it was
like she would just repeat that.

473
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,100
So it was like all weekend. 
It didn't even matter. 

474
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,460
In fact, it was one point. 
I think I saw Randy from across 

475
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:38,110
the hall and he's like nuts. 
And I'm like, yeah, so it's just

476
00:26:38,110 --> 00:26:39,830
kind of like our own private 
greeting. 

477
00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:45,070
So that's a story of nuts. 
Nuts. 

478
00:26:46,990 --> 00:26:50,350
Again, I mean, you know, I think
it was Jerry's about being a 

479
00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:54,790
cliche, but have you seen it 
change? 

480
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:59,470
Is it? 
Has it always been or has it 

481
00:26:59,470 --> 00:27:04,550
become more about the community 
and networking or just because 

482
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,830
of the? 
Because of the the content 

483
00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:09,430
creation, I think it's changed. 
I know. 

484
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:12,670
I think it's definitely changed.
I think this is new because, 

485
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:15,430
well, I'll talk about my 
perspective in two weeks. 

486
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:19,150
But yes, the answer to your 
question, short answer, yes, it 

487
00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:23,630
has changed in a good way. 
Yeah. 

488
00:27:25,030 --> 00:27:28,830
OK, love it. 
A man, honey, to get myself a 

489
00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:31,510
ticket for next year. 
Maybe I'll book my holiday. 

490
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,230
Maybe we should book a holiday. 
Around Jen Con. 

491
00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:38,950
I'm not sure the wife's gonna 
agree to this, but then we can 

492
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:44,430
record live. 
OK, great. 

493
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:50,990
If you and I can have a booth at
Jen Con and just have people 

494
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,350
come to us and just and we know 
there's recorded stories, record

495
00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:59,190
their stories. 
OK, we got 12 months to sort 

496
00:27:59,190 --> 00:28:02,390
out. 
Next up is Game With Me Under 

497
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,570
the Ever. 
Tree, This is Jacob. 

498
00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:09,450
This isn't a Jacob. 
Hello hello hello, this is Jacob

499
00:28:09,450 --> 00:28:11,770
from Game with me at the Ever 
Tree. 

500
00:28:12,050 --> 00:28:15,730
I'm here to say that I had a 
blast at my second Gen. 

501
00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:17,810
Con. 
I did go last year as well. 

502
00:28:18,170 --> 00:28:21,290
On this year I did get to go 
with Lizzie the nerdy 

503
00:28:21,290 --> 00:28:24,410
photographer and this was an 
amazing time to be able to spend

504
00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:27,510
with her. 
We were able to check out this 

505
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:31,070
new game called Wandering Towers
and we got to go a special event

506
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:34,350
which gave us a expansion for 
some of the stuff. 

507
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:36,310
And I really love that game so 
much. 

508
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:38,750
We actually played in the hotel 
floor two more times. 

509
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:41,070
When we got back to the hotel it
wasn't that good. 

510
00:28:41,270 --> 00:28:44,510
Definitely the best game. 
I played all of Gencon, but my 

511
00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:47,550
best experience is still 
definitely just be able to meet 

512
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:49,750
and see everyone from Instagram 
once again. 

513
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:52,430
I got to see a bunch of people 
again from last year or some new

514
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:55,300
faces as well. 
And just being around them and 

515
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,220
seeing their faces, it just 
brings joy to my heart. 

516
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,140
I love all of you. 
You make me so happy. 

517
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:03,500
I can't wait to meet you again 
next year at Gen. 

518
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,860
Con for my third time. 
Or again, some other time soon. 

519
00:29:06,260 --> 00:29:07,700
Man, it sounds like a great 
time. 

520
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,220
Community, community, brother 
community. 

521
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:14,100
That's what it's about. 
I want to say that I got so I 

522
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,580
met. 
Jacob was the first person from 

523
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,420
the Instagram community I ever 
met in real life. 

524
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:22,380
OK. 
It was last year, so I could, I 

525
00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:23,380
could tell this. 
At Gencom. 

526
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:28,420
At Gencom last year, Katie and I
were at the Gameland Games 

527
00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:30,180
booth, right? 
All the tiny Epic games. 

528
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,900
And I hear my name out of the 
corner, you know? 

529
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,180
And it's Jacob and. 
So yeah, yeah. 

530
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,900
And so we we hugged and we 
chatted and we talked about 

531
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,420
things and is he talked about 
Final Girl, which is becoming 

532
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:45,180
his favorite game? 
Yeah. 

533
00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:49,900
But I would like to say that I 
got to take a picture with Jacob

534
00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:52,500
under the ever tree. 
At Gencar. 

535
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,180
I remember that photo now and 
it's. 

536
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:56,780
Awesome. 
Yeah, yeah, I remember that set 

537
00:29:56,780 --> 00:29:59,660
that up on the last day. 
Big group photo under the ever 

538
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:01,660
tree was so much fun. 
Thank you, Jacob. 

539
00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:04,380
Thank you, Lizzie. 
She was such a delight. 

540
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:07,420
I should say that as well. 
Lizzie, thank you so much for 

541
00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:11,100
taking the time to visit with me
and all of us and share in our 

542
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,060
community and. 
What's wandering Towers? 

543
00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:15,980
Did you try that? 
I mean, so good. 

544
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:17,940
They sat down and played it on 
the floor. 

545
00:30:18,370 --> 00:30:22,890
I know it didn't hit my radar 
until we got to Gencon. 

546
00:30:22,890 --> 00:30:26,370
And that was another missed 
opportunity, you know, trying to

547
00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:30,010
prioritize everything. 
I missed out on it, but I saw 

548
00:30:30,010 --> 00:30:31,530
them play it and it looks 
amazing. 

549
00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:32,850
Yeah, it just. 
Look, it looks really nice. 

550
00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:38,770
I was going to ask a question 
about gaming and so do people 

551
00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:41,970
play at Gencon in the evenings, 
or do people disperse the 

552
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:45,090
hotels? 
Or a bit of both. 

553
00:30:45,650 --> 00:30:50,180
So the JW Marriott has a 
ballroom specifically designed 

554
00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:52,740
for open gaming. 
Free. 

555
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:53,980
Free for all. 
Or do you have to book? 

556
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,460
Yeah, it's free for all, it's a 
free for all. 

557
00:30:56,460 --> 00:31:00,780
And it's really, it's remote 
while it's connected by sky 

558
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:05,460
bridges, pedestrians, it's kind 
of far away from everything. 

559
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:09,460
So it's, you know, it's a bit of
a hype, but every night 

560
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:14,500
dispersed to the hotels and it's
like in the hallways, in the 

561
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,460
conference rooms, in the lobbies
of hotels, everyone's playing 

562
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:18,780
everywhere, so. 
Yeah, brilliant. 

563
00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:23,420
Love it. 
OK, Next up is Maple Mike 

564
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,180
Michael. 
God, I love his story. 

565
00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:30,620
Let's go. 
Hey, guys, this is Mike at 

566
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:32,180
Maple. 
Mike on Instagram. 

567
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:36,300
Gen. 
Con was probably the best four 

568
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:41,180
days of my year. 
I absolutely loved getting to 

569
00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:44,110
meet all the different people, 
all the people I've only talked 

570
00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:47,030
to online on Instagram and other
platforms. 

571
00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:52,070
I've been echoing the sentiment 
for what seems like forever, but

572
00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:54,550
actually just forget about the 
games. 

573
00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:58,790
But just being in a place where 
everyone is so excited about 

574
00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:03,430
gaming is absolutely amazing. 
And one of my favorite moments 

575
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:07,790
was at the CGE Creator event 
where me, Angel Board Game, 

576
00:32:07,790 --> 00:32:12,670
Angel, Brian, Running Board 
Gamer and PJ were playing a game

577
00:32:12,670 --> 00:32:15,830
of ARNAC. 
And it just was never ending 

578
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:18,550
because everyone kept getting up
to socialize and meeting other 

579
00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:21,350
people. 
And you were introducing him to 

580
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:24,390
her and you to me and all of 
that fun stuff. 

581
00:32:24,390 --> 00:32:27,110
And that was just so, so amazing
to meet everyone. 

582
00:32:28,550 --> 00:32:29,270
Now it's me. 
Who? 

583
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:29,830
Mike. 
Me. 

584
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:31,270
Mike's. 
I'm sure me pull. 

585
00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:36,150
Mike did a lot of entries into 
the Online Ball Game Olympics. 

586
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:39,310
I believe you remember. 
Yeah, I'm sure that's I. 

587
00:32:39,630 --> 00:32:43,470
Then I've talked to my meeple 
Mike apart from that, but sounds

588
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:48,790
again just hanging out really 
good member of the community. 

589
00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:57,070
So that was the longest game of 
lost ruins of our neck ever, you

590
00:32:57,230 --> 00:32:58,950
know, because we constantly got 
up. 

591
00:32:58,990 --> 00:33:00,790
At least you finished it. 
We did. 

592
00:33:00,910 --> 00:33:02,470
We did. 
Yeah, you could have abandoned 

593
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:04,710
it. 
So Angel, board game. 

594
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:07,510
Angel had never played our neck.
She's like, let's play cool. 

595
00:33:07,510 --> 00:33:10,310
So we did. 
We sat down, but then 

596
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:13,510
everybody's walking up and then 
you get up to talk to someone 

597
00:33:13,510 --> 00:33:18,390
and then whatnot. 
So Michael is so delightful. 

598
00:33:18,550 --> 00:33:22,710
He is so sincere. 
He's so humble. 

599
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:26,910
I just you want to encourage 
him. 

600
00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:31,130
He is so amazing. 
I don't know that, like, he 

601
00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:35,290
really puts everyone else first 
above himself. 

602
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:39,330
And it's, you know, when you 
meet those rare people were just

603
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:42,570
so humble. 
He was fantastic. 

604
00:33:44,010 --> 00:33:46,850
There was a great moment while 
we were playing our neck and 

605
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:50,050
someone came over and kind of 
fangirled. 

606
00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:53,090
She's like, you're you're Mike, 
you're Mike from meeple Mike. 

607
00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:56,760
And he's like, yeah. 
And I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm 

608
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480
vibrating physically because I'm
so excited for him. 

609
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,920
So it was great. 
So Michael, thank you. 

610
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Thank you for telling the story.
I don't have to. 

611
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,560
And I guess the point you met 
Angel. 

612
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,840
I've met Angel with me. 
That's one of the few people who

613
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,880
with both, There are currently 
two people on this planet who 

614
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120
have met us both, and Angel is 
one of them. 

615
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,480
I got to meet her and then. 
It's Richard from Richard. 

616
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,320
From the space Yeah, I love 
Andrew. 

617
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Two people. 
Yeah, we need to do another 

618
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,199
episode, but we'll save that. 
We'll save that for another day.

619
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Yeah. 
Let's go on to Brian. 

620
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,400
Hi, I'm Brian, also known as 
Running Board Gamer on 

621
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Instagram. 
I have been attending Gen. 

622
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Con since its last year in 
Milwaukee and have only missed 

623
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,719
one Gen. 
Con in Indianapolis. 

624
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320
I have to say that this year has
to be one of the best con 

625
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,120
experiences of my life. 
In 2022, I was just starting to 

626
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440
get active in the Instagram 
board gaming community. 

627
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,000
This year however, was special 
because I got to meet and speak 

628
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960
and game with so many people 
that I have come to know through

629
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Instagram. 
They have all been so nice and 

630
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,800
friendly and supportive. 
I can't wait to see them again 

631
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,720
at future cons. 
Another highlight this year, as 

632
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,960
always, was True Dungeon. 
I got to do 3 amazing dungeon 

633
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,090
runs. 
I also volunteered for All 

634
00:35:18,090 --> 00:35:20,610
Direct Entertainment for their 
Big Game Night event, teaching 

635
00:35:20,610 --> 00:35:22,490
people new games, which I love 
to do. 

636
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:25,650
I even got to teach some of my 
Instagram friends how to play 

637
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:30,410
Glory to Rome, which made my top
30 to Gencon countdown some of 

638
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:33,850
the games I'm excited about. 
Sky Team A2 player Coop game. 

639
00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:37,050
I'm looking forward to playing 
with my wife, 3 Ring Circus by 

640
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:40,450
Devier Games and The Missing 
Expedition, the new expansion 

641
00:35:40,450 --> 00:35:43,910
for The Lost Runs of Arnac. 
Side note, I played Lost Runs 

642
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:47,390
Varnack with board game Angel 
Meeple Mike and PJ the Cajun 

643
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:53,470
Gamer. 
OK, so Brian is the epic veteran

644
00:35:53,470 --> 00:35:56,030
of Jen Con. 
How many? 

645
00:35:56,150 --> 00:36:02,230
How many Jen Cons has Brian? 
I think the last one, the last 

646
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:04,910
one in Milwaukee was in the 80s 
or the 90s. 

647
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:08,510
OK. 
I mean, we're talking hardcore 

648
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:12,110
and you heard him. 
This was the best ever because 

649
00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:14,310
of us community. 
There it is. 

650
00:36:14,830 --> 00:36:18,750
Is it just feel like it's an 
Instagram driven thing? 

651
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:22,550
Cuz I don't hear groups of 
Twitter, Which should I say? 

652
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:25,230
XX. 
Whatever. 

653
00:36:25,830 --> 00:36:29,830
Yeah. 
Yeah, it feels one of the real 

654
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:32,850
positive. 
The byproducts of Instagram is 

655
00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:36,570
less about the content and more 
about the community and the yes 

656
00:36:36,970 --> 00:36:38,770
and the friendship that we've 
all gone through. 

657
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:44,210
That is absolutely true. 
This is all done by us in the 

658
00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:48,730
community using Instagram as a 
tool to bring us together and 

659
00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:51,170
you're seeing that, you're 
seeing that come to fruition. 

660
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,880
Glory to roam. 
Oh my God, such a great 

661
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680
experience. 
Which version was it? 

662
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,320
The black box or the? 
Yeah, the black box. 

663
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,400
It's my one of my prized 
possessions that game. 

664
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Oh, you have a copy. 
In the black box? 

665
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Yeah, original Kickstarter 
backer. 

666
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Yeah, that's an amazing game. 
That was a cool glory to Rome. 

667
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,840
Such a cool moment. 
So yeah, who we got next? 

668
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,170
We've got Jen, so this is Jen 
and Raleigh and this. 

669
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:27,970
They're connected. 
They're a group who interrupted 

670
00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:30,610
us while we were playing R Neck.
I love how this. 

671
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:33,650
Comes together, yeah. 
Here we go. 

672
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:36,650
Hey everyone, this is Jen and 
this is Rolly, and we're here 

673
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:39,770
with board for two. 
One of our favorite things about

674
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:42,130
Gen. 
Khan is meeting people from the 

675
00:37:42,130 --> 00:37:45,490
boarding community. 
The thing is, though, these 

676
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:48,250
first meetings can get quite 
awkward sometimes. 

677
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:51,050
You don't know what they look 
like or what their names are. 

678
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:52,490
You know you only talked online,
right? 

679
00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:56,010
And you start trying to wonder, 
is that the right person? 

680
00:37:56,090 --> 00:37:59,530
But they're also looking at you 
thinking probably the same 

681
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:00,290
thing. 
Yeah. 

682
00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:05,770
But once you realize it's who 
they are and who we are, we 

683
00:38:05,770 --> 00:38:10,010
really end up having that great 
time just being together. 

684
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:12,170
And that really goes to our 
favorite moment of Gen. 

685
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:16,540
Con, which is gaming with our 
new friends, with AEG game night

686
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:19,020
and even Saturday. 
Just clearing that, our schedule

687
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:21,660
just to play some games, getting
to know each other. 

688
00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:23,860
Because when are we gonna see 
each other again? 

689
00:38:23,860 --> 00:38:26,580
Hopefully next year. 
And that's what gaming is really

690
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:29,100
all about, Building that 
community and talking to one 

691
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,980
another, yeah. 
I love these clips. 

692
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,060
Honestly, they're so good, So 
good. 

693
00:38:36,620 --> 00:38:39,460
They are both fun. 
They're both expressive. 

694
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:44,850
They're so appreciative. 
I really enjoyed meeting both of

695
00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:48,530
them. 
I've been following them Gosh, 

696
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:50,490
what seems like years. 
Who knows? 

697
00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:51,970
It may not be that long, but 
it's been a while. 

698
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:56,530
I love, love their content. 
They're just, they're so amazing

699
00:38:56,530 --> 00:38:58,050
and they do it together and I 
love it. 

700
00:38:58,410 --> 00:39:02,850
So I guess if anyone hasn't 
captured these names, when we do

701
00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:06,490
the post on Instagram we will 
tag all these accounts in. 

702
00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:09,390
So please make sure. 
You go and follow all these 

703
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,230
wonderful accounts if you don't 
already, which I am sure you or 

704
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,510
you could do. 
OK, let's see what Billy's got 

705
00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:17,630
to say. 
Great. 

706
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,750
Hi everyone. 
I'm Billy and I'm Jonathan from 

707
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:25,990
Reengineer the game and we got 
to experience Gencon and my 

708
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:29,070
favorite part of Gencon was 
being able to see the hot games 

709
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:32,430
in the board game Geek hot game 
room and my favorite game that I

710
00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:35,430
played was Unmatched Brandon 
Braun. 

711
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:38,100
My favorite experience would 
have been meeting all the 

712
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,420
people, specifically some of my 
favorite designers. 

713
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:45,740
I got to meet Fletch from the 
OP, Jack Rita from Future Past 

714
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:49,420
Times, and Steven Medway from 
the Pandemonium Institute. 

715
00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:52,340
Just talking with him was great 
and the favorite game that I 

716
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:55,620
played was a little bit of cop 
Out but Disney Sorcerers Arena 

717
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:58,500
epic alliances. 
I taught and demoed that game 

718
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:05,580
all weekend and we had a blast. 
So I met Jonathan. 

719
00:40:06,110 --> 00:40:08,630
At Geek Way to the West in Saint
Louis, right? 

720
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:12,990
So go back to that episode and 
you'll hear me tell that story 

721
00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:15,190
where we were playing Flame 
Craft with him and his wife. 

722
00:40:15,310 --> 00:40:19,390
That's yeah. 
So he, he and Billy got together

723
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:21,670
because there's three of them. 
Reengineer the games. 

724
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:24,630
There's they're a trio. 
Billy's the second I got to meet

725
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:27,070
Billy. 
Billy was so delightful, so 

726
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:28,550
energetic. 
Loved them. 

727
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:30,910
It was great to see them both. 
But they were doing, they were 

728
00:40:30,910 --> 00:40:33,710
working the vendor hall, so if I
only got to see them briefly in 

729
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:37,710
the evenings, they got to do all
kind of cool stuff and you got 

730
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:40,470
to hear some of that. 
But yeah, so it was just great 

731
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:43,510
to see them again. 
I've never played an unmatched 

732
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:49,790
game, you know, Neither have I I
don't know how to do that. 

733
00:40:49,870 --> 00:40:53,310
Yeah and yeah, a lot of people 
are big fans and I've just. 

734
00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:55,910
I don't know why I haven't. 
I don't. 

735
00:40:56,510 --> 00:40:57,990
I don't know. 
I don't know that's. 

736
00:40:57,990 --> 00:41:00,910
Probably an episode there and 
it's making of games that we 

737
00:41:00,910 --> 00:41:02,870
haven't played that people think
we should have done. 

738
00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:10,870
Straight into Adam. 
Yes, What's up? 

739
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:15,910
This is Adam, tabletop vibes and
my favorite moment at Jan Khan. 

740
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:21,310
OK, so besides meeting everybody
that I've been talking to for 

741
00:41:21,310 --> 00:41:26,110
three years was super great. 
One meeting this super duper 

742
00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:28,510
awesome dude, PJ, the Cajun 
board gamer. 

743
00:41:28,590 --> 00:41:32,790
Super nice, great guy. 
Met a lot of other friends as 

744
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:34,830
well. 
I would have to say that my 

745
00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:38,670
favorite moment. 
I played Chaos Order with Nick 

746
00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:42,950
from Happy Meeples and Mitch 
from Neat and Nerdy, and we're 

747
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:48,910
literally playing Chaos Order in
the hotel in like the ballroom 

748
00:41:48,910 --> 00:41:52,950
area downstairs of the hotel. 
It's raining outside, the 

749
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:57,150
ceiling is leaking, and pieces 
of the ceiling are literally 

750
00:41:57,190 --> 00:42:01,470
falling down around all of us 
people playing board games. 

751
00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:04,350
We got one person in the corner 
playing a party game, we got 

752
00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:07,470
another person playing other 
random games and then here we 

753
00:42:07,470 --> 00:42:10,990
are playing Chaos Order, which 
was intense all the way down to 

754
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:13,110
the last turn. 
It was amazing. 

755
00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:14,590
John Conn was a great 
experience. 

756
00:42:14,590 --> 00:42:18,950
Can't wait for 2024. 
You can't be a little bit of 

757
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:22,350
Chaos. 
Is that, is that Circadian's 

758
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:24,990
Chaos Order? 
I think so. 

759
00:42:25,070 --> 00:42:26,990
Yeah, I think so. 
I think it is. 

760
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:32,310
Petition the chaos. 
The chaos of environmental 

761
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:36,950
chaos. 
Yup, Adam's amazing. 

762
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:39,750
And we should probably go ahead 
and listen to Jason, because 

763
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:42,230
he's the he's the other half of.
Okay. 

764
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:45,190
Listen, now go. 
Yeah, what's up guys? 

765
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:48,550
Jason here, Tabletop vibes. 
My favorite part of Gencon this 

766
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:52,950
year was getting a board game. 
I really wanted and really had 

767
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:55,830
to fight for it to get it. 
So got to the exhibition hall 

768
00:42:55,830 --> 00:42:59,790
before they opened on Saturday 
in with a crowd of like 1000 

769
00:42:59,790 --> 00:43:01,510
people. 
Got to meet a lot of cool people

770
00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:04,630
while you waited and when they 
threw the doors open it was a 

771
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:08,670
mad crush to get in. 
I mean we were really crushed 

772
00:43:08,670 --> 00:43:11,710
like Twinkies in there. 
Eventually got through, raced 

773
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:16,150
over to the table, got in line 
and got copy of Distilled, which

774
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:19,750
will be doing a first impression
at tabletop vibes coming up 

775
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:22,750
soon. 
And this just encompasses all of

776
00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:25,620
what Gencon is. 
There's the meeting of the cool 

777
00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:29,620
people, there is the expectation
of getting game you really want 

778
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:34,260
there is rushing over to really 
get there before anybody else, 

779
00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:36,940
and it's that fulfillment of 
getting that game. 

780
00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:41,620
So fantastic Gen. 
Con, can't look forward enough 

781
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:45,380
to next time Gen. 
Con 2024 and hope to see you all

782
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:49,660
there. 
I was this close to playing 

783
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:51,780
distilled yesterday and I ran 
out of time. 

784
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,960
It was on the list, but we had 
like an hour and it was four of 

785
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,040
us and we felt Craig was 
supposed to. 

786
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,120
Teach you, I know, and that's 
why Blood in the Clock Tower 

787
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920
took over most of the afternoon.
However, I love a story of a 

788
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,560
good getting a game through the 
through the crushing Twinkies. 

789
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,720
I mean, it sounds, I'm 
delightful. 

790
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600
So the beauty of it, so Adam is 
chaos, Jason is order. 

791
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,960
I mean that. 
Yeah, I love it. 

792
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:22,780
They're two personalities and 
they're both tabletop vibes. 

793
00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:26,420
So they have a YouTube channel 
and they're on Instagram. 

794
00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:28,460
Follow them. 
Check them out. 

795
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:34,620
They are both truly amazing. 
I taught, Jason Distilled on 

796
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:37,540
Friday night. 
With my wife and two other 

797
00:44:37,540 --> 00:44:39,940
people it was so good and he 
fell in love. 

798
00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:42,380
The story he told that was 
Saturday morning. 

799
00:44:42,380 --> 00:44:45,020
So he played, distilled with us 
and went and got in line and. 

800
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:47,340
You influenced us. 
Look at that. 

801
00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:50,210
You should be on Commission. 
I mean, yeah, I mean you've 

802
00:44:50,210 --> 00:44:52,770
talked about distilled on 
number. 

803
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:54,770
Of times, yeah. 
Number of times on the episode, 

804
00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:58,290
yeah. 
Distilled is in my top three. 

805
00:44:58,290 --> 00:45:01,290
It's obsession. 
Distilled and Nemesis, that's my

806
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:05,410
top three. 
And that's where we are, yeah. 

807
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:08,930
Punch pool. 
Cathedral, yes. 

808
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:12,890
Just next, yes. 
Hey, it's Cannon of Punch Board 

809
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:14,730
Cathedral, and my favorite part 
of Gen. 

810
00:45:14,730 --> 00:45:18,330
Con, and of gaming conventions 
in general, is sitting down at a

811
00:45:18,330 --> 00:45:21,850
table of strangers and agreeing 
for the next couple hours to be 

812
00:45:21,850 --> 00:45:23,970
friends. 
You don't have to have anything 

813
00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:26,810
in common with these people and 
you may well come from very 

814
00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:28,970
different places and lead very 
different lives. 

815
00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:32,380
They might be people you would 
never encounter in the course of

816
00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:37,020
an ordinary day, but at that 
table, you're united by a common

817
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,820
set of interests and social 
conventions. 

818
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:43,220
It is, if we're being honest, a 
bizarrely intimate experience. 

819
00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:46,260
Modern life separates and 
alienates us from one another. 

820
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:48,660
But at a gaming convention, the 
opposite is true. 

821
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:51,340
You're going to get to know some
strangers pretty well. 

822
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:53,180
You're going to learn a lot 
about each other. 

823
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:55,540
You're going to share moments of
tension, frustration, 

824
00:45:55,540 --> 00:45:59,240
embarrassment, laughter. 
You may compete, but you might 

825
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,920
also help each other through 
rules, confusion, or even offer 

826
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,120
strategic advice. 
And as often as not, you're 

827
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,840
going to find you kind of like 
each other. 

828
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:10,320
This is not, in my humble 
opinion, because gamers are 

829
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,640
uniquely kind, generous, 
sociable or likable people, but 

830
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,400
because people in general are 
usually pretty alright and 

831
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,320
you'll probably like them if you
get to know them. 

832
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Games, let us do that. 
What I mean? 

833
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,880
That sums it up beautifully. 
Really does. 

834
00:46:27,580 --> 00:46:30,620
I feel like he is the Punch 
Board Cathedral. 

835
00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:35,260
I mean, if that's not like the 
board gaming Bishop giving a 

836
00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:38,700
sermon at the Punch Board 
Cathedral, like that's just it's

837
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,540
so insightful and I have a 
confession to make. 

838
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:46,980
Canon is the only person on this
podcast I did not meet. 

839
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:50,340
At Gen. 
Con we did not get a chance to 

840
00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:54,580
meet, and for that I'm sorry. 
There's always next year, no, 

841
00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:58,100
but he was kind enough to send 
us a sound bite anyway. 

842
00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:02,020
He was part of the chat and just
the chat group had like 30 to 50

843
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:05,700
people in it and just trying to 
coordinate it's, I mean you. 

844
00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:09,020
Did really well to get, I mean 
the sound bites that we have 

845
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:14,380
got, which leads us into Laura, 
Laura. 

846
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:19,620
Oh gosh, great story. 
Hi, this is Laura. 

847
00:47:19,860 --> 00:47:22,220
I'm obsessed with board games on
Instagram. 

848
00:47:23,330 --> 00:47:25,690
I got to go to Gencon for the 
first time this year, which was 

849
00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:31,330
a wonderful experience. 
I loved being part of the group,

850
00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:34,690
waiting to go into the vendor 
hall in the mornings. 

851
00:47:34,690 --> 00:47:37,410
A lot of people think that's too
intense and want to stay away. 

852
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:45,170
For me it was such an energetic 
moment, really moments leading 

853
00:47:45,170 --> 00:47:49,410
up to it and experiencing that 
with everybody who is there 

854
00:47:49,410 --> 00:47:51,850
because they love the similar 
things to you. 

855
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,920
That was just such a cool 
experience for me as a first 

856
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,280
timer. 
I got to play Sky Team while I 

857
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
was there, which is a fantastic 
two player game. 

858
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,520
I loved my first playthrough and
then was super pumped to find 

859
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,920
there were extra components in 
the box leading to more complex 

860
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,480
game play in the future and I am
very excited to get it back to 

861
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,760
the table soon. 
Amazing. 

862
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,520
So I got to tell you about 
Laura. 

863
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,670
Laura has only had her Instagram
account for three weeks. 

864
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:28,790
I wasn't following. 
Now I am. 

865
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:31,870
Now you are. 
By the way, you can find her 

866
00:48:31,870 --> 00:48:36,070
husband Mr., Obsessed with Board
games, yeah. 

867
00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:39,270
There's a pair. 
So we were at a table together 

868
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:43,230
and I had gotten up for one 
reason or another. 

869
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:48,350
And Katie was conveying to Laura
and her husband Ryan that Katie 

870
00:48:48,510 --> 00:48:52,630
decided to change her Instagram 
name to Missus Cajun Gamer just 

871
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:57,110
to, you know, symmetry. 
And so Ryan's like, I'm doing 

872
00:48:57,110 --> 00:49:00,390
that right now and he changed 
his to Mr. Obsessed with War 

873
00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:03,150
Games. 
So our good friend Craig, who 

874
00:49:03,150 --> 00:49:06,110
was supposed to teach you, 
distilled yesterday, let's get 

875
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:10,710
into games for our American 
friends, he posted. 

876
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:15,110
You need to follow Laura's 
account on Instagram. 

877
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:18,060
So I did. 
And then we started seeing the 

878
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:20,820
network is beautiful. 
We we started messaging each 

879
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:22,420
other and it was like, I think 
it was Friday. 

880
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:24,260
We're in the vendor hall, which 
is like chaos. 

881
00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:26,900
And I'm like, I'm over here at 
this table. 

882
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:29,140
And then we move and I'd send 
her another message. 

883
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:33,140
And then so because Katie and I 
were being safe while we were in

884
00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:36,300
the vendor hall, we wore masks 
because the crowds were tight. 

885
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,220
When we got out of the vendor 
hall, we, you know, we took 

886
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:40,340
masks off. 
If we were at a table with other

887
00:49:40,340 --> 00:49:43,700
people who were wearing masks, 
then we wore them too, just to 

888
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,420
be respectful. 
So I took a picture so she would

889
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:49,720
know, hey, I'm wearing this 
colored mask and this is what I 

890
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,000
look like. 
She messages me back. 

891
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,920
She's like, look for a girl lost
wearing a flowered shirt. 

892
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,320
All of a sudden every woman in 
the hall is wearing a flowered 

893
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,040
shirt and I'm like, I can't find
her. 

894
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,680
And then I did and we took that 
great picture, which we shared 

895
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,280
on Instagram. 
So, so much fun. 

896
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,960
So much fun to play with. 
Thank you, Laura. 

897
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,080
OK, moving around those vendor 
halls trying to meet people is 

898
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,080
like a game of chess. 
And so it's a ball game in its 

899
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,520
own right, because everyone 
keeps moving and everyone's. 

900
00:50:17,050 --> 00:50:19,930
Carrying a big bag and we all 
look the same. 

901
00:50:22,050 --> 00:50:27,250
Okay, Matheus Matthias. 
Matthias, I can't read my own 

902
00:50:27,250 --> 00:50:29,490
writing. 
I apologize, sorry. 

903
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:33,050
Hello gamers, evil jerk gamer 
here. 

904
00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:36,610
This year's Gen. 
Con was one of the best by far. 

905
00:50:37,850 --> 00:50:41,410
I got to hang out with a lot of 
really awesome people, all us 

906
00:50:41,410 --> 00:50:43,650
influencers. 
We spent a lot of time together.

907
00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:46,700
It was like we'd known each 
other for years. 

908
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:49,140
That wasn't that awkward 
introduction thing. 

909
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:51,460
It's like you just walked up to 
somebody and you were like, I 

910
00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:54,180
know you. 
And it was just, it was, it was 

911
00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:55,700
great. 
It was like we were family. 

912
00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:59,100
We had a lot of laughs, a lot of
good times. 

913
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:02,220
I actually kicked the lady 
during the con, which was a 

914
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:04,300
little weird. 
I'm not saying I did it on 

915
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:07,620
purpose, but I am saying that 
right before you got there, PJ, 

916
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:09,380
she did refuse a sticker from 
me. 

917
00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:13,500
So do you know, do what you will
with that? 

918
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,880
I got to listen to, Ari wandered
meeple. 

919
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,480
She kept dropping the F bomb in 
the game we were playing when 

920
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,280
she was supposed to announce a G
rated cuss word and we were all 

921
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,280
just kind of looking at each 
other like, what'd she say? 

922
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Like that. 
To me, that was like the 

923
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,560
funniest moment of the con. 
I could not stop laughing. 

924
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,680
Even when I think about it now, 
it's just it's so funny. 

925
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,480
I just, I can't recommend Jamie 
Con enough and I hope to see 

926
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,660
some of you there next year. 
Kicking a lady. 

927
00:51:44,660 --> 00:51:47,300
I mean, we just suddenly got a 
lot of violence in the game just

928
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,940
for not taking a sticker. 
I'm sure there's more to this 

929
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:53,140
than than just pure violence and
the chaos. 

930
00:51:53,660 --> 00:51:58,020
He is the evil jerk gamer so. 
Yeah, just taking down any poor 

931
00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:00,220
lady for not taking a sticker. 
They are nice stickers. 

932
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:02,220
There they are. 
They're beautiful. 

933
00:52:02,540 --> 00:52:04,220
Yeah, you've. 
Actually got some nice stickers.

934
00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:06,660
Actually we do. 
We've got some buttons. 

935
00:52:06,940 --> 00:52:09,600
Got some buttons, which is cool.
Yeah. 

936
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,760
No, that was it was so funny. 
It was great to meet him. 

937
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,240
So he lives in Joliet, which is 
just South of Chicago, which is 

938
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,520
about 3 hours from here in 
Illinois. 

939
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,840
So we hopefully we'll get 
together soon and get a game in.

940
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,920
There's a lot of other stories 
too with the evil jerk gamer. 

941
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,280
They're not appropriate for this
channel, but it. 

942
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,360
Feels like he's going to chat. 
Yeah, there's a lot of, there's 

943
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,960
a lot of stories. 
So we were playing a game where 

944
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,530
I think it was everything ever. 
I think that was what we were 

945
00:52:41,530 --> 00:52:42,330
playing. 
Right. 

946
00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:49,130
It was this party game and you 
had to say every G rate, so you 

947
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:53,970
had to say every G rated version
of an adult word, right? 

948
00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:56,850
It's like shoot darn shucks, 
right? 

949
00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:59,290
You had to say those things one 
at a time and you had to go 

950
00:52:59,290 --> 00:53:04,290
around and you couldn't repeat. 
And Adri, because of her accent,

951
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:09,710
she was trying to say a G rated 
version of the F word, but it 

952
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:13,310
kept sounding like the F word 
and she's like what? 

953
00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:16,950
I just said it and she'd say it 
again and she'd say it again and

954
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:20,990
to all of us, right, it sounded 
like the same thing simply 

955
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:24,390
because of her accent. 
And it was, it was very 

956
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:28,980
entertaining because she was in 
fact not saying the F word she 

957
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:32,140
was saying. 
Yeah, she was saying a G rated 

958
00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:34,220
version, but it just sounded the
same. 

959
00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:38,180
And they gave her grief for it 
at least for 10 minutes. 

960
00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:40,100
And then it was we moved on to 
the next thing. 

961
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:43,780
So. 
And for for our UK listeners, G 

962
00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:47,380
= U rated just to keep our 
language the same. 

963
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:49,500
Did you know that I never knew 
what G rated? 

964
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:53,940
No, G rated is for all ages and 
that is you in the UK. 

965
00:53:54,830 --> 00:53:56,150
I did not know that. 
That's good to know. 

966
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:57,190
Thanks for. 
That I'll take it. 

967
00:53:57,470 --> 00:54:00,830
It's sharing things that are 
different across both sides 

968
00:54:00,830 --> 00:54:05,390
Atlantic. 
So we've got one to go, and this

969
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:07,910
is Drew Drew. 
Here we go. 

970
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:12,700
Hey Y'all, this is the cardboard
cowboy Drew, also known on 

971
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:16,780
Instagram as Welcome to Boredom.
2023 was my very first time at 

972
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:18,780
Gencon. 
One of my favorite things about 

973
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:22,100
Gencon was getting to see all of
the wonderful people that I see 

974
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:26,380
in this beautiful and absolutely
phenomenal community each and 

975
00:54:26,380 --> 00:54:29,220
every day on social media. 
There are a ton of games that 

976
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:32,660
I'm excited for, but some of 
them that I saw was Sirens by 

977
00:54:32,660 --> 00:54:36,420
Envy Born Games and Apothecary 
by One First Games. 

978
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:38,860
Thank Y'all very much and I'm 
excited to see y'all and next 

979
00:54:38,860 --> 00:54:41,580
year and that's a perfect way 
to. 

980
00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:43,380
End, I'm gonna say full of 
energy. 

981
00:54:43,620 --> 00:54:45,500
Two games I've not heard of. 
I'm gonna have to go. 

982
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,060
And it's like a shopping list of
grade here. 

983
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:49,500
So I've gone through this 
episode today. 

984
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:53,780
Drew is open, polite, 
encouraging and supportive. 

985
00:54:53,780 --> 00:54:56,820
Like I don't. 
I don't know how well he knew me

986
00:54:56,820 --> 00:54:59,860
before Gen. 
Con, cuz he's got a big 

987
00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:04,220
following, but he knows me now 
and he was kind enough to do a 

988
00:55:04,220 --> 00:55:07,890
little sound bite for us so. 
I can say thank you to 

989
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:11,250
everybody. 
True, true and everyone else. 

990
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:16,690
Well done PJ. 
Fantastic set selection of 

991
00:55:18,050 --> 00:55:20,810
people's perspectives. 
This is what happens when you 

992
00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:23,730
send me when you send me on 
assignment on the. 

993
00:55:23,810 --> 00:55:28,130
Mission and I like the way that 
we've recorded these separate 

994
00:55:28,210 --> 00:55:30,450
which I think we we took that 
learning on the back end of UK 

995
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:33,930
GE when I recorded them live. 
We've just got the sound 

996
00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:42,010
quality, it's far, far better. 
So next episode we're gonna have

997
00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:48,930
some designers that you met Yes,
at Gencon, and then we're gonna 

998
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:55,330
hear then your, I guess, your 
personal journey at Gencon as 

999
00:55:55,330 --> 00:55:57,250
well. 
That'll be the week after. 

1000
00:55:57,250 --> 00:56:01,130
So, three weeks of Gencon? 
It's fascinating. 

1001
00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:05,330
You can really can feel the love
and the. 

1002
00:56:06,430 --> 00:56:08,950
I guess that is network, the 
friendships that are being 

1003
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:13,190
built, a group of people who 
didn't know each other maybe 

1004
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:17,630
even a week ago. 
Two weeks ago we got together 

1005
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:21,710
and hang out, play games, and I 
just can't wait to do the same 

1006
00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:25,630
with you guys at some point when
I get myself into Jencom. 

1007
00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:29,230
So I'm now going to go 
downstairs and see whether I can

1008
00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:32,350
start planting those seeds for 
next year. 

1009
00:56:32,790 --> 00:56:33,990
What is the date next year? 
What is? 

1010
00:56:34,030 --> 00:56:36,750
What is Jencom's date? 
August 1st to the 4th. 

1011
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:39,990
That's perfect, isn't it? 
Summer days, yeah, it's during 

1012
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:44,950
your holiday and hopefully Katie
and I will be visiting you. 

1013
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:50,550
Maybe UK Games Expo and I can 
help you work on your family and

1014
00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:53,070
be like y'all got all, y'all got
to come to the US for Gencon. 

1015
00:56:53,070 --> 00:56:55,430
You make it happen. 
Is Jencom in the same place or 

1016
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:57,070
is it? 
Is it always in the same place? 

1017
00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:00,460
Always. 
It's always in the ICC and it 

1018
00:57:00,460 --> 00:57:05,380
always the hotel blocks. 
Everything is it's the same. 

1019
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:11,660
It's just vast vast the. 
Thing is, it's like bringing 

1020
00:57:11,660 --> 00:57:13,780
back games. 
I'd have to get another 

1021
00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:16,910
suitcase. 
So you could do, you could do 

1022
00:57:16,910 --> 00:57:20,750
like some folks and don't buy 
any games or like by one or two 

1023
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:23,190
little pocket games. 
So thank you, PJ. 

1024
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:28,310
Thank you all of our 
contributors to our episode and 

1025
00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:31,030
we will speak soon. 
Thanks everyone for listening. 

1026
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:33,670
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1027
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:37,310
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1028
00:57:37,310 --> 00:57:40,470
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1029
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:44,380
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