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Hey guys, welcome to episode 154
of Maple to Maple. 

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It's the 5th in my Community 
content creator community 

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series, so thanks for joining 
me. 

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My guest today lives at the 
crossroads of social content, 

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tabletop gaming, and audio 
storytelling. 

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I'm really excited for you guys 
to hear this conversation. 

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He brings a very special wit and
insight and an infectious energy

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that I am so jealous of to 
everything from life reflections

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to board game breakdowns. 
He has recently built a devoted 

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following by being unfiltered, 
curious, and deeply rooted in 

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the world of modern tabletop. 
Just a true, true gem in the 

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community. 
Here's the thing though. 

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He isn't just playing games, he 
talks about them. 

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He's been featured on board game
podcasts such as board game Hot 

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Text, where he dives into his 
favorite dice mechanics. 

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He's also growing his own 
podcast ambitions, aiming to 

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bring the same warmth and 
authenticity to the mic that he 

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brings to the table. 
So today, we're going to tap 

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into those threads, his path 
from gamer to content creator to

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tabletop guru of podcast magic. 
What inspired him to lean into 

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the podcast, the stories behind 
his favorite games and what's 

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next in the universe of rolling.
Reggie. 

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Reggie, thanks for joining. 
How are you, man? 

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I'm doing all right. 
Thank you. 

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Oh, my gosh. 
It's like when you're when 

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you're at a your birthday party 
and everybody's singing Happy 

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Birthday to you and you just 
have to smile and like, please 

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stop saying nice things. 
Please stop being good to me. 

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I can't handle it. 
I'm doing great. 

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Thank you. 
So excited to be here. 

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You have picked some amazing 
folks, like a lot of my favorite

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people in the hobby and some 
people I haven't met. 

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So I'm very excited to learn 
about them. 

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Yeah, when it happens. 
So. 

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By the way, Merry Christmas. 
As Christmas has just passed and

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we've got the new year to look 
forward to, I am happy to say 

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that by the time that we've 
recorded this, I've decided this

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is probably going to be the 
permanent direction of the 

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podcast. 
Early in the series I had some 

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amazing responses and I've had 
people you want to talk about 

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humbling. 
So humbling. 

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Recently I've had several people
who asked to be on my show like 

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what? 
You know, people actually are 

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listening and y'all want to join
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This is this is incredible. 
But enough about me. 

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Let's talk about you, Reggie. 
Awesome. 

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No, you are awesome. 
And that is great. 

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There's no better feeling like 
going to like a convention. 

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Someone's like, hey, Rolling 
Reggie, I'm like, why do you 

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know me? 
Like, please, here's a sticker. 

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But that feels good, yeah. 
That's the content creator 

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obligation. 
Have a sticker. 

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Got to give everyone a sticker. 
I mean, if you I give away one 

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or two every convention because 
I'm like, if you are really 

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going to go out of your way to 
say hello to me, you are an 

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awesome human being and I 
appreciate it and it warms my 

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heart. 
And yeah, yeah, people DMS. 

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That's the thing about our well,
we'll talk about this, but just 

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yeah, everybody feels so 
approachable. 

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You know, it's like you're yes, 
people feel com feel comfortable

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sending you a DM and saying hey,
like I'd love to be on your your

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show. 
Your show is also. 

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I feel like it's not that way in
a lot of industries or 

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communities either. 
No, it's definitely not one 

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thing I struggle with. 
Yeah, you are. 

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Whereas I've been doing this for
almost 4 years, so every week. 

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But I always think about the 
problem is, is that I haven't. 

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So when I'm at a convention, 
nobody comes up to me. 

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And we're like, oh, you're from 
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the Cajun gamer, which is 
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But no one, you know, no one 
recognizes me. 

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So I always think about having 
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me at Gen. 
Con or insert your favorite 

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convention, yeah, I'll have like
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the first person, right? 
And maybe that's what I need to 

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do to get people. 
Shit, that's how you. 

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Do it, you rock. 
Yeah, I, I have stickers. 

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I always have stickers. 
You get, you got to do. 

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I have friends everywhere, you 
know, have a little, have a 

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little secret passcode. 
Yeah, it'd be great. 

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I also have one one thing at 
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Colorado. 
Are you a fan of Colorado? 

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Do you know that game? 
I'm aware of the game. 

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I've never played the game. 
So I don't know box like this 

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big great little drafting set 
collection game from like 2003 

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and I love it so much and I just
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It's just one of those. 
I brought it to my very first 

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convention and I just always 
have it to bring out because 

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it's just so easy to teach and 
play. 

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So if you ever see my 
convention, we can play Colorado

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together. 
Colorado OK, so here's the 

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problem, and we're going to get 
this out of the way early in the

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episode. 
Everybody knows my favorite 

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board game is Obsession, and so 
the one request I usually get is

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people want to play Obsession 
with me. 

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I can't pull that out of my 
pocket. 

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Yeah, I'm sorry. 
It's too much. 

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Too many meatballs in there. 
It's too big. 

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Oh yeah. 
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seen it in real life. 
It's a it's hard to find it. 

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It it like it is tough to get 
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I've I've played on board game 
Marina several times. 

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I think it's really cool, but I 
really want to. 

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I feel like I would enjoy it way
more if I played it IRL with 

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with accents and yeah. 
Top hats and a tuxedo. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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And you got it. 
You got it. 

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So, Reggie, let me ask you. 
I've been starting this 

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conversation with this question 
asking to everyone, what was the

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first board game you ever played
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Wow, that's a great question. 
I mean, if you count chess. 

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I mean, my dad taught me chess 
pretty young. 

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Yeah. 
But like I have very distinct 

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memories of like sorry and 
trouble, you know, anything that

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you just moved around a little 
Popomatic are probably when I 

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was a little kid and and then 
another, I played all the big 

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mainstream games. 
I've talked about this in many 

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videos of like I loved Monopoly,
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Like those were the games that 
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board games could be. 
And I always thought they were 

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fine. 
You know, I enjoyed that. 

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But when I got older, I was 
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to board games? 
Like, that's the ceiling, you 

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know, But it was fun. 
I always think about, I feel 

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like people do hate on Monopoly 
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And I just made a dedicated 
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ago. 
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sisters especially, we would 
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Like what was your piece in 
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You know, I think I was the top 
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Actually, Speaking of top hat, I
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iron and and my sister took the 
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And it's just like, there's so 
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it. 
As much as we want to hate on it

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now, like we all had some good 
memories. 

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Yeah. 
Play a Monopoly. 

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It's true, but I think that 
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reason why we as gamers today in
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meet non gamers, you know, they 
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for kids and they don't because 
it's like you said, you were 

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going to grow up. 
Why would I play these games 

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again? 
Little did you know. 

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Little did we. 
Yeah, That's a great. 

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I mean, there's so many. 
I have so many aha, moments like

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that that I'm sure we can get to
in this episode here, too, where

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I'm like, well, what board games
can do this? 

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Yeah. 
Well, you know, we're going to 

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talk about that because that's 
that's my next question. 

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So first you said chess. 
Sorry, trouble. 

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There was no surprises there. 
I'm always interested in my next

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question. 
OK, I get some interesting 

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answers. 
So what was the first board game

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that got you into the modern 
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OK, so you know, without giving 
the full history, I do like to 

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talk about the modern game. 
That really hit me, Yes. 

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There's two that I could answer 
and one that everyone knows. 

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If you watch my top ten, it's 
King. 

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Domino is one of my big ones. 
OK. 

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Yeah, was a modern game that 
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And I gave the whole story on on
the Punch Board Cathedral 

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podcast, Ken and someone, you 
know, Yep, Yep, him and all 

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that. 
We did this and it's beautiful. 

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I really just encourage you to 
go listen to that actually. 

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But the thing about King Domino 
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when we talk about these games, 
we just talked about Monopoly, 

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Risk, Clue, Sorry. 
First and foremost, it's it was 

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a board game that we were 
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My, my girlfriend at the time, 
now wife, always known as Her 

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Majesty the Queen, you know, to 
bring out the obsession vibes as

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well. 
We were sitting down. 

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We were sitting down and playing
at a board game cafe and they 

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said it's a game that won some 
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And they put it down in front of
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know? 
And I was like, wait, how are we

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playing a board game with no 
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And like, Carcasson had been out
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This is 2016 when King Domino 
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So like, at this point, 
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years, right? 
But I hadn't experienced it. 

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And I was like, OK, so let's see
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Then they told me that when you 
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that's going to change the turn 
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And now I might take two turns 
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And I was like, you know, when I
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they could do is the turn orders
would go clockwise and if they 

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wanted to be wild, they'd go 
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There was never like turn order 
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I love, love, love and. 
Then. 

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And then the biggest thing was 
that you started learning. 

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It was a game that it started. 
You started playing it and 

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drafting the tiles, and then you
started learning like, oh wait, 

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I am actually paying attention 
to what my opponent is taking in

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front of that, like hate 
drafting and also just knowing 

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what's left face down. 
There was just a lot of things 

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that way that just kind of blew 
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With King Domino, it was just 
something I really, really 

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loved. 
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actually, if I'm being honest? 
OK, my first job out of college,

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I'm working at a university and 
I have a Co worker named Emily 

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and she has a partner named 
Jeff. 

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And Jeff is he has like a vision
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Like he's legally blind. 
He could barely see any. 

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He's very, very, very light 
visuals. 

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He would totally be APC video 
game guy if he had, you know, if

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he did not have an impairment, 
right? 

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But he could play board games 
and he played miniature games 

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because he get the tactility of 
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He's able to participate in 
board games and enjoy it like 

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that, right. 
So I knew that about him. 

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I'd never really played a lot of
board games and so I asked him. 

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I said hey I'm having a game 
night. 

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It's my first apt. 
I have like 8 people coming over

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and he's like oh wow, that's a 
lot of for a game night which I 

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know now it's like once you get 
over 4 like you're pushing it 

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with game. 
So he handed me a game called 

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Bang the Dice game. 
Have you ever played this one? 

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Yes, as a point of fact, that 
was one of Gareth, my partner in

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the podcast. 
That was one of his first games,

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really. 
Yeah. 

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I have it right here with me 
bang the dice game here, we're 

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looking at it here and I have 
one expansion in here. 

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This is you can kind of see my 
corners are like beat up on this

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for the visual watchers. 
You know, this is the same copy 

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I bought like immediately after 
that weekend and we, me and my 

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buddies, my close friends 
referred to as the dads we every

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time we get together on a 
weekend, we will always make 

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sure we sit down and play at 
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for the nostalgia. 
And it's got a Yahtzee 

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mechanism. 
That's true. 

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Yahtzee is another game I loved 
as a kid. 

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Oh yes, Which was roll and lock 
is what you would know that 

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mechanism now, you know, and 
that is just, it's like Yahtzee 

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but battle Yahtzee, but also 
with Werewolf because you're 

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trying to figure out who's the 
deputies, who's the outlaws and 

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that game. 
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really blew me away was a lot of
people tried to get me into 

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board games before Bang the Dice
game. 

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But the asymmetry was actually 
the thing that I was like, wait,

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we all have special powers in a 
board game? 

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That really, really shocked me 
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it. 
So yeah, Bang the Dice game. 

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Yeah, Yep, I love it. 
And so I'm listening to you, 

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Reggie. 
And you're just like, OK, so 

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bang the dice game king domino, 
right. 

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Like the list just keeps going. 
No, there's really something 

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magical about the asymmetry, 
asymmetrical nature of board 

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games that's so different from 
when we were growing up with 

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Sorry and trouble, etcetera. 
Exactly. 

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So tell me, here's here's the 
controversial question. 

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Let's get it out of the way real
quickly. 

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What's your favorite player 
color? 

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That's a great. 
I mean, that's not controversial

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at all. 
Yellow. 

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I've always been yellow. 
I play yellow every time. 

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If you want to be yellow and 
you're at a table with me, I 

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will most likely move your 
meatball accidentally. 

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You know, it's just going to 
happen. 

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Yep. 
So yeah, I like it. 

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I do like Gray, which is like 
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I, if a player, if a game has 
Gray, I really do gravitators 

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that Imhotep, Babylonia, those 
come to mind. 

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And then like creature comforts 
has Gray and yellow, which is 

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like, and Pan Am and I'm like my
only two colors. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah, yellow I, I, I feel 

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like it's more more popular. 
What what's your color? 

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You're you're purple. 
Nice. 

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I'm purple. 
Yeah. 

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And, and I've told that story so
many times. 

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It goes back to my days at 
undergraduate LSU. 

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Go Tigers to go Tigers. 
Shadow Shack. 

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Yep, I bleed purple and gold. 
Nice. 

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Also Mardi Gras purple, green 
and gold. 

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So it's nice. 
First I'm purple. 

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My wife is usually gold, but if 
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be pink. 
So if I can't be purple, then 

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I'll be gold. 
But if I can't be purple and I 

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can't be gold, then I'll be 
green. 

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But usually you can't be green. 
So then I just, it just kind of 

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it falls apart. 
After, yeah, there's a tier 

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list. 
I randomly I like to be orange 

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if like if there's none of my 
colors, you know, I'll throw 

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like a random color out there. 
But yeah, my buddy, one of my 

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closest, but he's Joey. 
He's also a purple player, so 

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purple's always taken. 
He loves purple. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, you know, it's it's a 

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color of royalty. 
Yeah, color of the the Bayou 

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Bengals. 
I mean, so out here it's you dub

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in the, you know, a lot of our a
lot of people where I grew up 

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are big Husky fans. 
The university, which is purple,

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purple, which is also purple. 
Yeah. 

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So. 
So that's why. 

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Yeah, so, yeah, nice. 
So for our international 

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audience, Reggie is talking 
about the University of 

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Washington. 
That is the state of Washington 

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in the Pacific Northwest, which 
you might know by another name, 

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Cascadia. 
Cascadia, There you go. 

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That's how we get board gamers 
to know US geography, but also 

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not to be confused with 
Washington, DC This is not the 

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capital. 
This is very, very far away. 

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I know you talked to one of my 
good friends, Iris Crimson board

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games. 
Yeah. 

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And she lives in the 
Netherlands, and we talk all the

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time. 
My board game bestie and 

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literally explaining to her the 
size of the United States and 

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driving, you know, I, I'm on, I 
did a video with Chaz, Chaz 

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Marler. 
He's game night picks. 

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We live in the same state and 
we're about 2 1/2 hour drive 

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away. 
And we did, you know, so it is, 

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that's just how it is. 
It's really funny because and I 

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promised Iris that I was going 
to make fun of her with you 

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talked about this because she 
when she was on earlier in this 

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series, she was talking, I think
I was asking her about another 

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player in the Netherlands and 
she's like, that's a 45 minute 

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drive. 
That's nothing. 

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So far. 
Hey man. 

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And you have public 
transportation, right? 

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And you have bikes, no? 
No, no, you good. 

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Good, good, functional, clean. 
Yes. 

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You have nothing to complain 
about Europeans. 

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That's right. 
Yeah. 

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It's so funny. 
Yeah. 

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It is really interesting the the
perspectives that we all bring 

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to the table. 
Yeah, I mean, cuz like I am, I'm

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in the middle of Illinois and I 
am 3 1/2 hours from Chicago. 

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I mean. 
That's so that's crazy. 

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Same state and people are like, 
wait, what? 

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Same state. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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That is such an interest. 
Well, I will say, do you have 

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any? 
So are you from Louisiana? 

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I am. 
I am so like I am from Baton 

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Rouge, born and raised. 
Yeah. 

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Are there any games that like 
represent your region, like 

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where you grew up or like did 
you have a lot of pride in 

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because they're they're like 
located there? 

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You know, it's really 
interesting. 

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I'm I'm there's one game that I 
absolutely love by weird draft 

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games, and that's Big easy 
busking. 

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Yeah, I've played that. 
I've actually played that game. 

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Yeah. 
I will tell you that. 

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They captured the feel of going 
in the French Quarter, the 

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different colors, listening to 
the buskers on the street 

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corner. 
Or in the case of the game, you 

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actually are the buskers, Yeah, 
trying to get money. 

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But like, they really captured 
the feeling. 

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There's nothing great. 
Colors in that, too. 

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Like, it's very vibrant, yeah. 
Absolutely nothing about Baton 

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Rouge proper, but you know Baton
Rouge is. 

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Isn't there a game also called 
French Quarter? 

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There is. 
There, yeah, rolling. 

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Right. 
Yeah, that's that's an 

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interesting that that's 25th 
century games. 

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Yeah, that's a that's an 
interesting game. 

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They packed a lot into a rolling
right. 

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And while they like they got a 
lot of things right, they got a 

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lot of things wrong. 
Yeah. 

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But you know what? 
If you've never been in New 

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Orleans, you wouldn't know the 
difference. 

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So it's fine for sure. 
Yeah, that's trying to. 

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When I went to the England, went
to England for the the England. 

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When I went to England for the 
first time, I met Gareth and he 

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pulled out French Quarter and we
played it. 

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I had to explain to him what a 
second line is. 

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OK. 
Which is. 

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So a second line is a funeral 
procession that's usually led by

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a rambunctious jazz orchestra, 
Yes. 

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Yes, right, I have seen. 
These particularly, particularly

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all right because you you see it
on TV all the time to be honest 

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it's mostly amongst the African 
American and Caribbean 

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communities yeah in. 
It's more of a celebration of 

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life you know it is, than like a
depressing funeral. 

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Yep, you do see. 
Second lines in like after 

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weddings, like you'll have a, 
you'll have a jazz band lead the

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the wedding party and all their 
guests from the church to the 

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reception hall. 
Yeah. 

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Wherever. 
Yeah, it's going to be. 

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Yeah. 
So you see that the other 

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concept of the second line our 
our Mexican neighbors with Dia 

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de Los Muertos and another good,
another good board game is 

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Potsuara, which captures that 
really well. 

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Ofrenda's coming out here soon, 
too. 

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That looks beautiful. 
About Dia Los Muertos, Yeah. 

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So. 
So there's always the procession

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to the grave sites during the 
Day of the Dead. 

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And when the procession passes 
you, the spectators follow 

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behind. 
They follow the procession to 

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the gravesite. 
Those spectators, they are the 

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second line. 
That's why we call it a second 

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line. 
That's awesome, yeah. 

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So. 
That's really cool. 

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That's see now we're getting 
some nice Louise here and 

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history in here. 
I, I will tell you when I when I

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was asking the question about 
the region is there is nothing 

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that will make me buy a game 
faster than it being Pacific 

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Northwest team, which we have 
been spoiled. 

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We have a glut of them right 
now. 

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I will say there's a lot of true
great designers out here to Beth

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Sobel, you know, like artists 
that are from here. 

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Yep, I very very much love love 
the PNW theming too, so that's 

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great. 
Love that. 

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I really want there to be a 
Mardi Gras board game. 

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Yeah, why? 
I can't believe there isn't 1. 

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So I I can tell you what 
mechanics it would incorporate, 

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but I'm not a board game 
designer. 

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You would you would think after 
as many designers that as 

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designs I'm friends with, that 
I've spoken to, I listen to them

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talk about their design story, 
you think I could design a board

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game? 
But yeah. 

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I'm really, I'm really good at 
talking about board games, not 

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designing. 
Yeah, those who can't talk about

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it. 
Of course, those who can't pod, 

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Yeah. 
Exactly. 

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No, you got it right. 
That's good. 

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That is why you're joining the 
podcast community. 

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Yeah, yourself. 
Right. 

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Hey, so let me ask you, in all 
the laundry list of games we've 

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just gone through, do you have a
favorite board game mechanic 

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that you just you're in? 
That's, that's a great question.

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I think the easy answer for me 
would be like tableau building. 

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Like I love building a tableau. 
You know, I, I think if I'm 

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being truthful because you, you 
asked me what, what got me into 

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the modern board game earlier. 
But you know, when I was 

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thinking about this, like, how 
did I get into the hobby as a 

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gamer, I couldn't help but think
I have to go back to TCGS. 

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And I think like I discovered 
Yu-gi-oh when I was like 11 or 

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12 and just know, you know, 
there was, there's an era, you 

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know, it, uh, in a home in the 
church, a God fearing home, 

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there was number Yu-gi-oh, no 
Pokémon. 

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They were Japanese demons. 
You know, there is a tradition, 

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there's a trading card game out 
there called Redemption that is 

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literally like biblical card 
games. 

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And I had all these cards and no
one in my, no one in my friend 

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group would play with me. 
So I had to play my mom and just

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like cast pillar of salt on her 
all the time. 

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You know, it's like Noah's Ark 
cards and stuff. 

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But Yu-gi-oh was like the worst 
culprit because the back of the 

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card, you know, it sends you to 
the shadow realm or whatever. 

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But you know, but by the time I 
got 1112, it's anime, it's 

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everybody's doing. 
Like I loved Yu-gi-oh and the 

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card, looking back on it now, 
the cards are tiny. 

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They're, they're like Japanese 
size. 

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They're not the size of a Magic 
card. 

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And there's so much text on 
them. 

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And The thing is, it really is a
tableau building. 

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Trading card games are tableau 
building, engine building games.

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You know, it's like you're 
getting a lot of cards out, 

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you're triggering off of other 
cards. 

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And that is the games that I 
gravitate towards. 

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But my top five games are all 
card games, you know, very much 

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card based. 
I, I really do love engine 

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building, tableau building, I 
would say my like, not my 

451
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,560
favorite, but one that I've been
just every game I've played in 

452
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,440
this genre I've been really 
liking lately is auction and 

453
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,000
bidding also. 
So I want to give auction and 

454
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,400
bidding a shout out. 
I've been really. 

455
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,560
Enjoying that too. 
Yeah. 

456
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,160
So Reggie and I are going to 
take you on a journey across all

457
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,840
mechanics and all board games. 
Yes, we will name the entire 

458
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,360
oeuvre of board games. 
Yes, by the time. 

459
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,120
Every single one. 
The whole board game geek 

460
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,880
mechanism catalog. 
Yep. 

461
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280
So now I got now comes this is 
evolved. 

462
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:56,720
If you guys remember 1111 weeks 
ago I had I had bands on bands 

463
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,400
and she helped me launch the 
series. 

464
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,400
Since then, this question has 
evolved and many of you have 

465
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,040
heard this question. 
It is A2 parter. 

466
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,640
It's a 2 parter because I love 
you and have compassion for you 

467
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080
and I realize that the first 
part is difficult. 

468
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,680
Do you have a favorite board 
game of all time? 

469
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Yes. 
If not, OK, great. 

470
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,960
And I want to hear about it 
because I also want to hear the 

471
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,200
second part. 
Do you have a favorite board 

472
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,880
game right now that's hitting 
your table constantly? 

473
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,640
That's great that I love. 
I do enjoy both of those. 

474
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,400
I have great friends, but my. 
Favorite. 

475
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,160
Be on a lookout for that. 
My favorite board game is 

476
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,240
Wingspan and I think people, you
know, people within the hobby 

477
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,900
can have love worms band more. 
I've got the dragon on the 

478
00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:44,680
T-shirt here. 
Fin span came out this year as 

479
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,240
well at the very beginning of 
this year. 

480
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080
But wingspan for me is my 
favorite podium. 

481
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,280
And I I think if I were to, it's
going to be tough for me to do a

482
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,440
top 10s in the future because I 
just don't see a game 

483
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,840
supplanting it because it has so
much emotional and sentiment 

484
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320
like it, it really dove me into 
the hobby. 

485
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,280
I love birds. 
Like that's a big thing. 

486
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,520
Like I got into two hobbies 
around the pandemic, seriously, 

487
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600
and that was bird watching and 
board games. 

488
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,880
And then and then I discover a 
game that is literally both of 

489
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,920
those things together. 
And it has three expansions. 

490
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,440
And so Wingspan is my favorite 
game. 

491
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000
It is, it is, you know, sold 2 
million copies. 

492
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,680
It's very popular. 
It's like saying you like 

493
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,400
Superman, which you know, is 
kind of tough, but it is it just

494
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,920
is my my favorite board game. 
Nice wingspan. 

495
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,680
I don't think we've talked about
Wingspan in since the beginning 

496
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,200
of the series. 
Oh, great. 

497
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,280
Yeah, it hasn't. 
It hasn't come up. 

498
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880
Solid game. 
It's a strong game. 

499
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760
Yeah. 
I don't have anything to say, 

500
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,000
good or bad about him. 
It's it's like liking Superman. 

501
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,760
You're you're it. 
Is it is it really? 

502
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,520
And that's what's so funny is 
like, you know, I like Batman, I

503
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,480
like Iron Man, I don't like Cap 
or Superman. 

504
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,680
But but wingspan for me, you 
know, it just evokes so many 

505
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960
feelings. 
And I think when I really sit 

506
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:03,920
down and think about my favorite
games, a lot of it comes down to

507
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,440
just I like that every single 
time I play, I'm going to have a

508
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,840
different combination of things 
in front of me, you know? 

509
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,920
And that I think that's what 
what you might call BDE games, 

510
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,360
big deck energy games. 
Do they have a lot of cards, you

511
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,280
know, and that's what TCGS do. 
It's like, I can make 100 deck, 

512
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560
commander deck for Magic the 
Gathering and it's going to play

513
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760
so different every single time I
play. 

514
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,760
So I really do enjoy that a lot.
And, and by the way, commander's

515
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,560
the only way to play Magic. 
Yeah, of course it is. 

516
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,720
Yeah. 
OK. 

517
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,360
If if it's the only way my wife 
will play Magic, then, you know,

518
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,000
for. 
Yeah. 

519
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,440
That's the way to go. 
Wow, I I even have a bird themed

520
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,360
commander deck after Bloomberg 
came out. 

521
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,880
And then there's a lot of the 
Lord of the Rings eagles are in 

522
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,640
there. 
It's really fun. 

523
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,040
It's actually a solid deck. 
So my wife has my wife has a 

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,320
cat's only great commander deck.
We got to get some birds 

525
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,320
together. 
That's just going to be I could 

526
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,880
just sit here. 
I could sit here and commentate 

527
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,240
while you play and that'd be 
great. 

528
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,080
So Reggie. 
Reggie just tapped 1 green mana 

529
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,600
and two blue to play his. 
I don't know, whatever. 

530
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,200
I don't know what the birds are.
Yeah, that's like Esther versus 

531
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Tweety, the match off. 
What about a board game today? 

532
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600
That's like hitting your table a
lot right now. 

533
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
Oh, man, this is so this is a 
tough question that I feel like 

534
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,680
this is tougher. 
Yeah. 

535
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,400
Because OK, so I'm between 2:00,
I'm going to go. 

536
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,320
And I've talked about both of 
these. 

537
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,080
That's why I was trying to come 
up with something maybe I 

538
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
haven't touched on lately, but I
I gotta this is a game that like

539
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,040
I haven't been smitten by a game
in in a long time. 

540
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,640
That's a good feeling. 
Yeah, it was just like when when

541
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,880
you're a game where you're 
learning the rules and this is 

542
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,320
the cool thing about being so 
well versed in the hobby is when

543
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920
you're learning the rules and 
someone's teacher, you're like, 

544
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,560
I'm going to love this, You 
know, I love being able to like 

545
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,880
read a rule book and be like, 
oh, this is my kind of game, you

546
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,760
know, or it's not. 
But that game is a Stefan Feld, 

547
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,120
my second Stefan Feld ever. 
I I love Castles of Burgundy 

548
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,280
rolling Reggie. 
The second one is Carpe Diem. 

549
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,880
Have you have you played Carpe 
Diem? 

550
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,120
I have not. 
OK. 

551
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,320
It has. 
A very similar depot kind of to 

552
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720
castles of Burgundy, but it's 
it's more like a Rondelle. 

553
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200
It's it's very easy drafting 
thing. 

554
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,360
You're taking these tiles. 
They make these buildings we're 

555
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,040
kind of like Roman patricians or
something like that. 

556
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,320
And you build these tiles and a 
lot of the buildings are a size 

557
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480
of two and when you cap, you 
know, the half of the building 

558
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,840
with the other half of the 
building, it triggers an effect,

559
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,400
you know, very Stefan Feld, you 
know, you get all these 

560
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,400
different things. 
But there's also like like this 

561
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,120
prestige track, excuse me? 
And on the prestige track, the 

562
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:56,240
person who's on top or furthest 
is going to be a first player, 

563
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,840
also straight out of Castle 
Burgundy. 

564
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,320
But my favorite thing is it's 
got every single time you play, 

565
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,920
it's got all these random 
scoring cards that come out in a

566
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,560
random order and they each have 
a half a semi circle on either 

567
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320
side. 
And at the end of each round, I 

568
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,480
think it's 4 rounds, who get to 
take whoever's in first player 

569
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
turn order gets to take their 
disc and puts it between any 2 

570
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
cards. 
And they get to score those two 

571
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,240
specific conditions, you know, 
And so then they score those two

572
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,720
conditions and then that 
location is blocked for the rest

573
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040
of the game. 
So that might be, you know, 3 

574
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960
grapes and how many yellow 
buildings do you have? 

575
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,480
And I have both those things a 
lot. 

576
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,920
But now I can never get those 
two again the next three rounds,

577
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,680
and neither can anyone else. 
But I can get, you know, any 

578
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840
other side. 
It's really, really clever. 

579
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,000
I wish more games did that. 
That one little scoring 

580
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,040
mechanism is so clever. 
It's like 40 minutes completely 

581
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,200
language independent, which I'm 
finding I like a lot more too. 

582
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400
I love cards, obviously, but 
games that are just like boom 

583
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,120
symbols, great Carpe diem. 
That's been one I I've blinged 

584
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,120
it out a lot by the way, too. 
I play I play with ironclays 

585
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,320
instead of the victory point 
cards. 

586
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,720
That's a big important thing. 
It comes with these like tiny 

587
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,680
cards that just are are just not
it and and I and I learned it on

588
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Ironclay. 
So that's the problem. 

589
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Then I bought these cinch bags, 
like silky velvety bags to pull 

590
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,680
the tiles out of because sure it
didn't come with those. 

591
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,840
There's no. 
My wife, because she crafts a 

592
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,600
lot. 
She's so quilts, she 

593
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,000
needlepoints, she crochets, she 
makes all those bags for us for 

594
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,320
games. 
You know what my wife is an 

595
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240
amazing crochet IST or whatever 
you want to call it. 

596
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
I should have her make some 
bags. 

597
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,200
You should crochet, crochet, 
crochet, crochet in. 

598
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,600
OK, so it's all right. 
So it's funny that we're talking

599
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,800
about this because I'm going to 
talk about someone who is a 

600
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,720
crafter, who's a mistress of 
cosplay and yet she works for 

601
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Queen Games. 
So guys, if you guys go back to 

602
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160
episode 145, she's the second in
the series. 

603
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Is Rachel Mullen awesome? 
She works for Queen games. 

604
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,040
That's awesome. 
And so, you know, Stefan Feld 

605
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,120
is, I mean, he's. 
Always got the city collection. 

606
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Yeah. 
He's got so much there, yeah. 

607
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,960
So she and I, after we were done
recording, she's going to try to

608
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,360
help me, help connect me with 
Stefan and get him on the show 

609
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840
in 2026 because that would be 
cool. 

610
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,960
I'd like to be in this room. 
I'll be silent. 

611
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,560
My mic can be off. 
I'll just listen. 

612
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680
I just want to be there live, 
you know, to talk to. 

613
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240
It it's in the live audience. 
I want to shout out crafting 

614
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560
though. 
I have I've always felt myself 

615
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,200
as just not artistic. 
You know, I, I never played an 

616
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,440
instrument, but since board 
gaming, you know, I do a little 

617
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,400
print and play, you know, I like
to do, I like to laminate like 

618
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,360
player aids and stuff. 
I do, I, I do a lot of different

619
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,080
things crafting wise that I 
think I never would have done 

620
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040
without this hobby. 
You know, and I, I'm, I'm like 

621
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
on the precipice of becoming a 
miniature painter and I just 

622
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
can't afford another hobby 
because that's a hobby within a 

623
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,840
hobby. 
It is. 

624
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,640
It is. 
But there's a lot of overlap. 

625
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,360
There's a Venn diagram of like 
crafting and board games that I 

626
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,440
think is bigger than people 
might give credit for. 

627
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
I've got Nemesis Retaliation 
that's unpainted. 

628
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,360
I've got Legends Academy finally
came in and it's partially 

629
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440
painted. 
We've got Ether fields by Awaken

630
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Realms that is unpainted because
these campaign games, because my

631
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,680
wife's the primary. 
What has happened is my wife and

632
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
I were doing painting together. 
Yeah. 

633
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,240
And then we realized that I 
don't have the pages for it, so 

634
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,360
she's relegating me to priming 
and lacquering at the end. 

635
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Oh man, you're just a prime like
machine. 

636
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Yeah, right. 
Look, I can prime Mini. 

637
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,920
It's like nobody. 
Nobody. 

638
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720
'S business. 
If you're gonna, if you're gonna

639
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320
play a campaign game with us, 
she's gonna have everything 

640
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,520
painted beforehand. 
Awesome. 

641
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Because what she loves is you're
playing Frost Haven or Bloom 

642
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Haven, and you retire your 
character and you open up the 

643
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,480
miniature box. 
She wants that mini to be 

644
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,720
painted. 
Yeah. 

645
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360
And you get the joy of watching 
you go. 

646
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,800
Whoa. 
Yeah. 

647
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,560
Yeah, cuz so you're you love it.
You're a two player like you and

648
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040
your wife play mostly together, 
right? 

649
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Almost exclusively we've got a 
we've got a local group here 

650
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,520
that comes. 
So we're in the middle of a 

651
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Frost Haven campaign. 
We play awesome a bunch of other

652
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,840
games as well, but we're the 
we're the couple where so two 

653
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,120
things are guaranteed to happen.
One is if we're talking to a 

654
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,720
vendor, publisher, designer, 
etcetera. 

655
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,640
My wife's going to ask the first
question. 

656
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,840
How does it play it too? 
Yeah, great question. 

657
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960
If you say there's a dummy third
player, she's going to turn 

658
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040
around and walk away from you. 
I also am not a big fan of the 

659
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,240
dummy third player, I have to 
admit. 

660
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Yeah. 
Yeah, just it's it's not good. 

661
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,480
So we love, we love two players.
The second thing that will 

662
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,240
happen. 
This has been a this has been a 

663
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760
frustration for me for some time
now. 

664
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,680
When we go to big conventions. 
It is unfortunate not to be a 

665
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
downer, but I like to be 
realistic. 

666
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,120
Let's keep this conversation 
there. 

667
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440
We're still victims of systemic 
sexism. 

668
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Mm hmm. 
In this industry. 

669
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,600
And if we go up to a vendor at a
convention and that person looks

670
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,520
at me like if my wife asks about
tell your new game and they talk

671
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,720
to me the whole time. 
Yeah, let me talk to the real 

672
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
gamer, is what they're thinking 
subconsciously, Yeah. 

673
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Yeah. 
And, and to be honest, I kind of

674
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,120
clock out. 
Yeah. 

675
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,840
I get more angry than she does 
now because as a woman, she's 

676
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,600
used to that, unfortunately. 
And I just kind of, I walk away 

677
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,960
or I pretend like I'm looking at
something else. 

678
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,200
And those are the two things 
that happen. 

679
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760
She's gonna ask that question 
and that will inevitably happen.

680
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,720
And it's just. 
That's such an interesting thing

681
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,840
that it's it is still pervasive 
and I and I was going to talk 

682
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,080
about solo gaming here. 
So I'll I'll lead into that and 

683
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,160
say, but I want to address what 
you said. 

684
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
That's interesting. 
Like my wife is the most 

685
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,719
gracious, lovely person when it 
comes to my hobby. 

686
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,280
Like this is not her hobby. 
She just played more games with 

687
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,320
me than according to my BG 
stats. 

688
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
She's played more games with me 
than Eddie, what even my closest

689
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,600
buddies, and she's never going 
to say I'm excited to play a 

690
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,840
game tonight, right, which is 
why my biggest reason why I 

691
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,639
think I am a solo gamer also. 
But because of that, I think, 

692
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,880
and all my buddies who are video
game guys, which is what I came 

693
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000
from the video game world. 
You know, I, I think of men, you

694
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,199
know, so I know when I started 
in this hobby, I was ready to 

695
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,159
like explain games and be like, 
Oh, here's what you can do on 

696
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:43,679
your turn and all this thing to 
women. 

697
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,199
And then I'm like, I start going
to conventions and I start 

698
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,360
hanging out with women who are 
gamers that are way, way more 

699
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,159
intense gamers than I am and 
have way, way higher tastes, you

700
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,760
know, so it's just like you 
learn really quickly if you're 

701
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,560
actually paying attention that 
it's like that dynamic. 

702
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120
But but you know, you have to 
be, you have to be aware. 

703
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,120
But but like I said, my wife is,
you know, we will play weeknight

704
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,840
games. 
She loves a sea salt and paper. 

705
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,680
That is what she's in the mood 
for. 

706
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
And she's always in the mood to 
play a game that she knows, you 

707
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,400
know, and I am, I get that, yes.
And, and I unfortunately, I'm 

708
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,000
just like, I'm an addict. 
I want, I would rather play 10 

709
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960
new games than a game I love 10 
times. 

710
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Like it is just how my brain 
works. 

711
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Like I like discovery. 
I like the potential of learning

712
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,240
a new mechanism. 
That is where my and my wife's 

713
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,400
the opposite. 
So that being said, sometimes 

714
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,680
it's just like Wednesday night 
and I'm just like, I want a 

715
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,600
crunchy complex experience and 
my wife is not up for that. 

716
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400
And I don't want to subject and 
torment her to that. 

717
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,360
And so that is where, you know, 
I sit down and I play a wingspan

718
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,040
solo against the Otima, which is
a very, very good Otima or a 

719
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Marvel champions against the 
villain deck. 

720
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,760
You know, those are the type of 
games that I think I really get 

721
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040
satisfaction out of solo. 
And that's the biggest reason 

722
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,400
that there's there's more nights
where I want to play games than 

723
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040
my partner in my player 2 in the
house does. 

724
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,320
So that's fair. 
I end up, you know, that's how I

725
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,120
kind of like relented on solo 
games. 

726
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920
And now I've kind of gone, gone 
in the deep end there. 

727
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,400
Yeah, I get that. 
So that means that when you meet

728
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000
somebody at a convention, the 
first question you ask is how 

729
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960
does it play at solo? 
Well, and that's the thing, if 

730
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,400
I'm buying a new game, I do 
actually take that into 

731
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640
consideration. 
You know, if I so Speaking of 

732
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Stone Meyer games, you know, I 
think they do a great job with 

733
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480
the Ottomas. 
They just came out with a trick 

734
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,320
taking game called Origin Story.
It's a trick taking engine 

735
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,120
building tableau building game 
that superhero themed, which I'm

736
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,600
also a big I love Cape Cape 
stuff, as the Internet calls it.

737
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,400
I mean I'm censoring Cape stuff 
and it's the worms band artist 

738
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
who she does this like amazing 
watercolory. 

739
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040
I don't know if you have seen 
the origin story stuff and I was

740
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,120
like about a lot of trick takers
are three to five, three to six.

741
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,800
And I'm like it has a solo mode.
Whoa. 

742
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,720
And I'm like, how does that 
work? 

743
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,280
You know, but I was able to, I 
was willing to buy that sight 

744
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200
unseen for very cheap, $20 if 
you're a Stone Meyer champion, 

745
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,280
by the way, we're not, we're 
not, we're not, we're not 

746
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,480
sponsored. 
We're not, we're not chilling 

747
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,360
for them. 
But I'm just there are no but we

748
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,320
are looking for sponsors both 
regions of. 

749
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Course we'll take them, yes, but
my point is I am more willing to

750
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,560
buy a game sight unseen if it is
solo mode. 

751
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,720
That that's my big thing is 
like, I got it. 

752
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,880
Yep, if it's two only if 2 is 
the minimum and I can't even 

753
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,800
learn it on my own. 
Like I like even just learning 

754
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,040
games of solo mode because she 
also doesn't want me checking 

755
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,840
the rule book in the middle of 
the teach, you know? 

756
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,240
I have to know it really well to
present it to her so that she's 

757
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,240
not like that. 
That's wasted time. 

758
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,560
That's not efficient and that's 
how that's how it gets there. 

759
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,560
So. 
I am fortunate in that I married

760
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:59,320
a woman who is both 1000 times 
smarter than me and same is all 

761
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,960
about the rules and the rule 
book. 

762
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
So I'm the, I'm the. 
I'm the tabletop Princess. 

763
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Yeah, yeah. 
Like a passenger Princess. 

764
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

765
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,240
I'm just want to show up and 
play the game. 

766
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,320
She reads the rules. 
She boy if I even think about 

767
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,440
picking up the rule book to 
check a rule. 

768
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Wow, yeah, that we are the 
complete. 

769
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Opposite, you know, roles in our
households. 

770
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,560
That's crazy. 
That's it happens. 

771
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,440
But this is what I love about 
the community. 

772
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520
This is what I love. 
It's awesome. 

773
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,000
So because I want to get to your
thoughts on the community. 

774
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,760
Yeah, talk to me about your 
transition from becoming just a 

775
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,600
casual gamer to being an 
intentional content creator. 

776
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,520
Great question. 
Yeah, I, I, I really, I was 

777
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,440
listening to one of your 
episodes about something like 

778
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,720
how in the it's one of those 
weird things you said the same 

779
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,440
thing. 
I was like, how did I even like,

780
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,840
why did I start? 
But I will go back to just like 

781
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,280
I was always a video game guy 
like that was it that I think 

782
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,080
that's the biggest reason that 
board games were off my radar 

783
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000
that I didn't become a board 
gamer earlier is that it just 

784
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,480
didn't hit me with enough 
stimulus at the time of like PC 

785
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600
gaming like I was. 
I went from Game Boy to GameCube

786
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,880
to Xbox 360 competitive games 
and then PC like about 2013 on 

787
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,160
I've been a PC Gamer. 
I still play PC games with my 

788
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,920
buddies. 
So I started streaming video 

789
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,200
games actually. 
And so I started on Twitch under

790
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,840
the moniker Chrono, which is it 
comes from a League of Legends 

791
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,960
reference, actually is what it 
is. 

792
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,440
And so I played video games and 
in COVID era, I was, I was like 

793
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
working from home on my computer
all day. 

794
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,720
And then I would stream, you 
know, for three or four hours at

795
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,640
night, like I was on a screen so
much. 

796
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,160
So I, I think that kind of 
helped me go towards board 

797
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400
games. 
But in that same era when I 

798
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640
wanted to make an Instagram 
account, which I think was like,

799
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,480
I wrote this down here, June 
2022, I made an Instagram 

800
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,120
account and I did not. 
Have the For the record, I have 

801
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,760
the same date because I I 
checked. 

802
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,960
You went and looked. 
OK, Great. 

803
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,320
Thank you. 
You went and saw my first one. 

804
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Yeah, of course you're thorough.
You would have done. 

805
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,600
You would have done your 
research. 

806
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Like this guy knows his stuff. 
This is 150 plus episodes here 

807
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,600
peeps. 
But funnily enough, with your 

808
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600
meeple to meeple too, I was 
like, the one thing I don't want

809
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,240
to name myself after is a meeple
because at the time I want to 

810
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,640
give a shout out to Foster the 
meeple. 

811
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,920
They were like the biggest 
YouTube channel that was on my 

812
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,320
feed and I was watching them 
like all the time and Jeff and 

813
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,440
Jamie. 
And so I was like, you know, I 

814
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640
should just do a different. 
I was like, should I be punny? 

815
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,080
But also with Chrono, like 
people when, when people would 

816
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,400
say my name Reggie, like it was 
so weird to them. 

817
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,280
Like people could not see me as 
anything but Chrono. 

818
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,800
Like when you stream under a 
moniker, you know, like that's 

819
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,880
your name, you know, it was like
a stage. 

820
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,760
And so I wanted to put my real 
name in it. 

821
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,120
So rolling was like rolling 
dice. 

822
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,400
And that's where that came from.
I like it though. 

823
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Yeah, I like it. 
I like it too. 

824
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,760
I I think it's, it's people 
think people mix it up with 

825
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,600
rolling with Reggie a lot. 
I think there's a couple people 

826
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,520
who do rolling with so and so, 
but just rolling Reggie. 

827
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,320
That was Instagram, and I just 
started posting pictures of 

828
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,520
games I was playing. 
You know, I got to that. 

829
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520
You know, I had a couple games 
and then I you bang the dice 

830
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680
games in there, King Domino's in
there, Sushi Go. 

831
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,800
You know, my shelf was like, it 
was one shelf in the linen 

832
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,400
closet of our town home. 
And my wife was like, this is 

833
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,720
too much. 
You need to stop. 

834
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Now. 
I have an entire room like 

835
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,720
little. 
Yeah, talk about little. 

836
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,920
Did she know? 
Like I had one shelf and that 

837
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640
was like, what are you doing? 
You think this is too big of a 

838
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520
connection? 
So you were a streamer before 

839
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,680
you were a tabletop gamer? 
Yeah. 

840
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,880
So it was, yeah. 
It was a natural fit for you. 

841
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Yeah, Yeah. 
And I don't know why, I truly 

842
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,240
don't know why I started 
Instagram. 

843
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,720
I just was like, I just wanted 
to share the board game. 

844
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,760
And so I started doing it. 
And then I have to give a big 

845
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,600
shout out to, you probably know 
them, our families plays, our 

846
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,480
family plays games, games Nick 
and Starla. 

847
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,840
And they invited me to do some 
videos for their channel while I

848
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,480
was just an Instagram account. 
And that was a huge impetus to 

849
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,240
get me confident behind an 
iPhone camera. 

850
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,000
It was just just on an iPhone, 
like I wasn't doing anything 

851
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,360
special. 
And so, yeah, my first YouTube 

852
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,800
channel or video came out in 
January 2023. 

853
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,640
So I've actually only really 
this is go. 

854
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
We're going on three years here 
now that I have been making 

855
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,480
YouTube content. 
But yeah, that that was kind of 

856
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560
the story went from like Twitch 
video games to making an 

857
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,160
Instagram to making videos. 
So what's your favorite or your 

858
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,560
preferred platform that you like
to create content right now? 

859
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
I still think YouTube is my 
favorite platform. 

860
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Yeah, I just enjoy the process 
of making a video. 

861
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,240
I have a trillion ideas, you 
know, I have so many ideas that 

862
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,440
show. 
Yeah. 

863
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,840
But just no time to make them 
all and I consume and The thing 

864
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,560
is YouTube is, is my biggest, 
you know, consumption as well. 

865
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,240
You're like, I don't even have 
Instagram on my phone anymore. 

866
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,480
Like I just check it on my 
browser because it's just just a

867
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,320
time sink. 
You know, if I'm going to do 

868
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,480
something on my phone, it's 
usually watching YouTube or just

869
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,720
just looking at my BG stats 
collection. 

870
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,520
You know, we all we all we all 
know that I get my screen time. 

871
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,240
It's like it's like messages 
YouTube BG stats most like how 

872
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,400
in the world are you spending 
two hours a week on BG? 

873
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,400
But I do, and I think that's why
because I watched Youtubers 

874
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,720
first. 
You know, I love sure. 

875
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,280
And like shout out to all you 
can board. 

876
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Those guys haven't made videos 
in a lot. 

877
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,480
They've been they they're on 
like a long hiatus. 

878
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,200
I love them. 
They the 2 Canadian they made, 

879
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,200
they basically shaped my taste. 
I think a lot of my like family 

880
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,560
weight, medium weight tastes 
come from them and actual all 

881
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,880
British one who you've probably 
watched too. 

882
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,360
Very funny, big YouTube too. 
He's solo also, which I think 

883
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,120
having a partner, which we've 
talked about with your podcast, 

884
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,640
you know, it's it's more fun and
I will tell you like the lat. 

885
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,640
The other, the third platform I 
have now is podcast, which you 

886
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,080
already mentioned board States 
and jazz and I have just been 

887
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,640
doing this because we're on 
opposite sides of the country. 

888
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480
You know, PGI, we're talking 
about this before because it's 

889
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,280
like we it's tough, you know, 
you got to plan time zones, you 

890
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,680
gotta, you know, being on a 
platform like this, you know, 

891
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,400
it's you got to have rapport and
and so, but we've been really 

892
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920
enjoying it because it's just 
more long form. 

893
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000
You know, you can, as you are 
all witnessing right now with 

894
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,280
your ears, you can yeah, for 
extended periods of time. 

895
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,680
So. 
Boy, I've. 

896
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,720
Been really, yes, yeah, yeah. 
So I do like podcasts too. 

897
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:33,160
The time zones is I don't know 
that people people realize it's 

898
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,040
really funny. 
So when we first approached the 

899
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,680
podcast and decided that this is
what we were going to do, right?

900
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,360
What I have experienced is 
people are like just do a 

901
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,200
podcast or people are like, you 
should just do a podcast. 

902
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,960
I hear that all the time. 
I'm like, you don't just wake up

903
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680
and do this. 
This is not like it's not. 

904
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,520
We talked about this has come up
so much throughout the series. 

905
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:58,560
Content creation. 
Yeah, right, is hard work. 

906
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,720
Thing is hard work. 
And if you're going to have a 

907
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,080
global audience and your guests 
are all over the world, you want

908
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
to talk about. 
So you're lucky because your 

909
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,680
partner on your on your podcast 
is in New Jersey. 

910
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680
So there's a three hour time 
difference. 

911
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,520
There will always be a three 
hour time difference. 

912
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,840
I have no idea what's going to 
be the time difference from 

913
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,440
day-to-day and week to week. 
When I'm recording, am I talking

914
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,960
to Australia? 
Am I talking to? 

915
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Yeah, that's you. 
You're 2 hours behind me. 

916
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,560
Where am I going to be this 
week? 

917
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Right. 
So my wife is always like, when 

918
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,920
are you recording? 
Don't know, you know, I mean, 

919
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,520
that's more work. 
That is true. 

920
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,360
I didn't even think about that. 
Like I I think that's one thing 

921
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,040
about bringing on guests like 
you are doing, you are doing a 

922
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,720
lot more pre emptive work to 
bring those guests on than jazz 

923
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,560
and I are. 
It's like we can meet at like 

924
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,840
we're meeting usually at like 
6:00 my time. 

925
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,600
So it's 9:00 PM for him and it's
not too bad. 

926
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,840
But I'll I'll say talking about 
tick tock and Instagram, like 

927
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,920
you were saying, just content 
creation, like saying what's my 

928
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,280
favorite? 
Instagram is my least favorite. 

929
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,600
If you go to my Instagram, like 
there's not that many posts on 

930
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,400
there. 
I I like to post on my story. 

931
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,120
I like to tell people what I'm 
playing day-to-day. 

932
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,440
But like making reels and making
TikTok for me is exhausting. 

933
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Like it is that attention to 
detail on a phone or doing it on

934
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,840
an iPad or whatever. 
Whereas like doing a long form 

935
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,200
podcast or doing a long form 
YouTube channel like editing 

936
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,080
that I find more relaxing, less,
less stressful that that is 

937
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,720
interesting. 
Yeah. 

938
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,680
It is less stressful, but I 
think it takes up more time. 

939
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Yeah, of. 
Course, yeah. 

940
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Because you have to listen to, 
you basically have to listen to 

941
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,120
the entire episode unfiltered so
that you can catch everything, 

942
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,720
right? 
Yeah. 

943
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,800
You don't. 
You don't want to rely solely on

944
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480
the automation. 
Plus trying to find that really 

945
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,800
sweet sound bite for that 
Reggie. 

946
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,440
What was that really cool thing 
that Reggie said? 

947
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760
Yeah. 
Where was that? 

948
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,840
Because I'm not sitting here 
taking notes, going at at 51 at.

949
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,720
51 minutes, he said, yeah. 
And there's nothing worse than 

950
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,880
your own voice. 
Like I, I hate listening. 

951
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,360
I hate listening back to it. 
Like that's one thing maybe that

952
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,480
the Instagram or like if you're 
because like there's some great 

953
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,560
people out there who are making 
like beautiful reels that are 

954
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,080
like beautiful. 
Thinking of the number of shots 

955
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,200
that you have to do to do this 
look blows my mind, yeah. 

956
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Yeah, let's let's shout out Dana
from Better Mood Board Games. 

957
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,520
I want it to be that That is who
I was thinking in my head was 

958
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,440
Dana. 
I'm just saying that out loud. 

959
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,200
OK, I knew who you were talking 
about. 

960
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,520
That's why I'm referencing. 
When I when I think about the 

961
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,680
best reels and the most 
beautiful images and 

962
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,560
cinematography on Instagram 
right now, hands down, I'm going

963
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,800
to say it. 
It's Dana from Better Mood Board

964
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Games. 
There isn't anyone that comes 

965
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,560
close and she does it all using 
her phone. 

966
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,880
IPhone yeah crazy and I just 
when I see what just knowing 

967
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,720
what it would take to do that 
I'm just like you're you're 

968
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,200
better than me. 
I can't I just can't do it. 

969
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,000
I can't do it. 
That's. 

970
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,720
Awesome. 
And I've been promising it. 

971
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,280
Dana will be on in the new year.
Awesome. 

972
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,120
You know, it's really funny 
because she's like 3 1/2 hours 

973
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,120
north of me and just trying to 
trying to get, you know, just 

974
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,520
the holidays. 
It's it's been a tumultuous 

975
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,600
year. 
I'm ready for 2025 to be over. 

976
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Yeah, yeah. 
At least it's not 45 minutes, 

977
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,600
you know, in Netherlands, you 
know what I mean? 

978
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Right. 
That would be tight, so. 

979
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,480
If if you could hop on a train 
and nether that would be 

980
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,360
different, way harder right? 
That's so hard. 

981
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,080
It's. 
So hard there with the free 

982
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040
health. 
Iris, 45 minutes is just so 

983
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,920
long. 
You know, if Reggie packed up 

984
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,840
his family and I packed up mine 
and we moved to the Netherlands,

985
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,640
we never see you because we live
45 minutes. 

986
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,520
But by the way, we love you. 
Iris Yes, that is why we that is

987
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,920
why we do that. 
So let me ask you, I want to ask

988
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,720
you about the community. 
Cool. 

989
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,000
What is it? 
What is it that you think the 

990
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,800
community does really well, that
you're so proud to be a part of 

991
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
it? 
Yeah, I think we kind of 

992
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,240
mentioned it earlier, but like 
the approachability, like people

993
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:25,400
are truly so nice. 
And so, you know, I came from 

994
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Twitch video games and like I 
would, you know, you'd you raid 

995
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,120
somebody on Twitch, you know, 
and you try to get into their 

996
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,440
video game thing and it's just 
they'd be like cool, awesome 

997
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,800
things. 
But it's like, it just felt so 

998
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,880
transactional, you know? 
And I feel like I can message 

999
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,440
somebody's story that we follow.
We don't know each other. 

1000
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,880
We live literally across the 
world, and we can start having a

1001
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,280
conversation. 
I think the common language of 

1002
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,640
board games, for whatever 
reason, maybe because it's 

1003
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,360
niche, it's more niche, It's 
smaller. 

1004
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
The common language, it there's 
just, it's better. 

1005
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,080
Yeah. 
And I also think we do 

1006
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,560
conventions really well. 
I think. 

1007
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120
I mean, I went to Twitchcon in 
like 2019 or something like that

1008
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,480
and it was, you know, I had fun,
but like nothing compares to 

1009
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,800
like my, I go to Dice Tower W 
typically every year in Vegas 

1010
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,560
and it's a smaller con like 
relative to the big boys, but 

1011
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,880
you know, 3 to 4000 people and 
there's enough of a hall to 

1012
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,720
check out. 
But also you just sit down and 

1013
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,040
play with so many people you 
know. 

1014
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,840
You know, yeah, people, people 
talk about, they talk about the 

1015
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,640
big boys, right? 
They talk about Gen. 

1016
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,360
Con, they talk about S and 
Spiel, they talk about UKGE. 

1017
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,480
Here's the one thing about those
big conventions, you know what 

1018
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
most of them don't have Is that 
open gaming. 

1019
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,240
Gaming or or just there's no 
tables available if it if there 

1020
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,600
is one, yeah. 
I have. 

1021
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,400
I have one criticism of Gen. 
Con, and I guess I'm vocalizing 

1022
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,000
it for the first time. 
Great. 

1023
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,240
Having having gone to Gen. 
Con since 2017. 

1024
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,720
Wow. 
I have one complaint. 

1025
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Gen. 
Con touts itself as the four, 

1026
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,320
the best four days in gaming. 
I don't believe that that is 

1027
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560
true at all. 
I believe. 

1028
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,000
He said it here first, people. 
Yeah. 

1029
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,280
He said it. 
Yeah, it was true. 

1030
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,000
It's not true anymore. 
It is the best four days in the 

1031
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,280
gaming industry. 
That's interesting. 

1032
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,200
That's a distinct. 
That's a distinct difference 

1033
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,440
though. 
I don't get much gaming done at 

1034
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Gen. 
Con. 

1035
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,160
Yeah, but I can go to Origins 
and there's open gaming with a 

1036
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,880
beautiful games library and it 
is right adjacent to the vendor 

1037
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,760
hall because it's all there. 
And either food carts were 

1038
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,920
amazing this year or food trucks
or whatever was that was that 

1039
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000
the food trucks origins the. 
Food trucks are a Gen. 

1040
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,120
Con. 
OK. 

1041
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,760
That's Gen. 
Con. 

1042
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,320
OK. 
And the food trucks were amazing

1043
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,800
at Gen. 
Con. 

1044
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,440
OK, I mean, Gen. 
Con's a bigger beats. 

1045
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,400
To give them credit, yeah. 
To give them credit, right. 

1046
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,720
I just I want to gain for me, 
and This is why I do the 

1047
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,560
podcast. 
This is how the series came 

1048
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,360
about. 
It's all about nurturing 

1049
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,840
community. 
It's all about overcoming my 

1050
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,040
personal failings. 
Yeah, which I talked about in my

1051
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,000
announcement, little 4 minute 
video back in October. 

1052
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,000
It's about sitting down across 
the table and having a shared 

1053
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,120
experience with Reggie. 
Yeah right. 

1054
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,240
Seeing you in the flesh. 
That's just, that's real. 

1055
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
I want that. 
I don't want a hug. 

1056
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
And oh, you got a meeting? 
Yeah. 

1057
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,960
Now there is a business. 
I understand there's a business 

1058
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,320
behind all this, so I don't take
any. 

1059
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,040
That's why I say Gen. 
Con might be the first best four

1060
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,120
days in the industry, but it's 
not the best four days in gaming

1061
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,840
anymore. 
That's interesting. 

1062
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,520
I origin, just to put it out 
there, I probably origins will 

1063
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,560
be the convention I go to next 
year instead. 

1064
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Good, because I will be there. 
OK Oh, that's awesome. 

1065
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,320
OK, so we'll have to make sure 
we touch about this I and I'll 

1066
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,040
you know what I'll give a big 
announcement here. 

1067
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,600
You I hopefully have told my 
community by the time that this 

1068
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,880
episode drops. 
Yeah, but my lovely wife the 

1069
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,000
queen is like due in January 
with a baby girl, our first 

1070
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,640
child. 
Yes. 

1071
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,240
And so my normal conventions, 
which again starts. 

1072
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,440
First of all, we're so excited. 
This is going to be amazing. 

1073
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:13,040
I can't believe we got a player 
3 coming in the house. 

1074
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,080
Player 3 at the beginning of 
2026. 

1075
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,360
How amazing is that? 
It's gonna Yeah, like I'm so 

1076
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:23,400
excited and petrified, but also 
I go to Orca Con usually in 

1077
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,120
January. 
I go to die * W is in March and 

1078
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,720
like none of that's going to 
happen. 

1079
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,800
I have made the agreement with a
newborn is like maybe by June 

1080
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,360
I'll be able to go to Origins. 
That's probably going to be my 

1081
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,120
only convention of the year, you
know. 

1082
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,360
But anyway, that just there you 
go, there's an announcement, the

1083
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,520
meeple to people, meeple to 
meeple people know that there'll

1084
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,240
be a little little rolling. 
Reggie, that's exciting in the 

1085
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:46,560
hub. 
Yeah. 

1086
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,160
But board games do three things 
for me. 

1087
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,600
And so I wanted to address that 
like and, and so engage my brain

1088
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,960
and I think and stimulate it in 
such a way that I just not much 

1089
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,000
else has done for me in my adult
life. 

1090
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,720
It's an excuse to socialize. 
I think that's a big thing. 

1091
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,160
It's like, Hey, let's cut, let's
have a game night. 

1092
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,560
And it's like, I can, we can 
open up a bottle of wine, I can 

1093
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,000
make some dinner and then it's 
least we, we're not just sitting

1094
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,720
around yap and we can at least 
do something while we're while 

1095
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,120
we're hanging out. 
And also it's an analog 

1096
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,400
activity. 
And for me, increasingly all I 

1097
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,800
want to do is like get, like I 
said, not down deleting social 

1098
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,080
media apps on my phone. 
Like I want to get off of my 

1099
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,720
phone. 
Like it's just something that 

1100
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,280
I'm doing. 
I'm on it too much. 

1101
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,880
So those three are big and I I 
just can't help but agree with 

1102
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,200
you. 
I love that. 

1103
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,600
I love that. 
That was a really succinct 

1104
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,560
description of not only what the
community does well, but why it 

1105
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,440
why it brings it to you. 
I love it. 

1106
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Let me ask you about the flip 
side. 

1107
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,560
Yeah. 
What does the community just it 

1108
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,080
needs to work on? 
Yeah. 

1109
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,200
I have one big one which you 
kind of touched on with the 

1110
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,600
industry part and I would and I 
was trying to look up what it 

1111
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,240
what the term is called. 
It's called choice overload or, 

1112
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,480
or, or another term for it in 
psychology, analysis paralysis, 

1113
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,320
actually in real life. 
But like there's so many games 

1114
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,880
and there's so many posts like 
this is if we're talking about 

1115
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,080
the content creator side and 
also the community side. 

1116
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,560
Like there's just so much hype. 
There's the hotness, there's so 

1117
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920
many kickstarters like, and at 
the same time, there's these 

1118
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,800
amazing gem games, you know, 
that have been tried and true 

1119
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,040
from 2011, you know, that are 
amazing, right? 

1120
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,880
And, and I can't pretend like 
I'm not a high priest in the 

1121
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,360
cult of the new because I am 
also, but at the end of the day,

1122
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,160
like half the hobby is like 
shopping and storing your games,

1123
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,920
you know, more than it is 
actually playing the games. 

1124
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,120
And like, I keep a really lean 
collection As for a board gamer,

1125
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,280
But when I tell my normal people
they're like 200 games, like you

1126
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,080
are a, you're a psychopath, you 
know, and, and I think your idea

1127
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,640
of playing backlogs that you 
mentioned a long time ago now is

1128
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,720
so genius. 
And that like, we need to start 

1129
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,800
an LLC like back the backlog 
boys. 

1130
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,480
You know, we're going to come in
coveted player game. 

1131
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,440
But Bonds was right because she 
was like, you have to also be 

1132
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,400
willing to teach it, you know, 
and if you're not the rules guy,

1133
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,720
like so we got to, we got to 
figure that part. 

1134
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,040
Out it is true. 
You know who else is going to 

1135
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,320
join that group? 
And that's Lincoln Hot. 

1136
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,280
We from BGG. 
Everything. 

1137
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, we talked about this. 

1138
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,640
I, I shared with him the whole 
concept of the board game 

1139
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,360
backlog and how we play all of 
our games once a minimum, once a

1140
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,920
year. 
And yeah, 300 for us seems to be

1141
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,120
the sweet spot. 
Yep, you know, good for you. 

1142
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,640
So you're you have 300 games and
you're getting them all played 

1143
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,840
at least once a year. 
Yeah, so. 

1144
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,280
Crazy. 
Yeah, we're at least we're at 

1145
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:50,280
like 94.2%, yeah, which means we
got to be hurrying because we 

1146
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,800
got like 2 days left in the 
year, yeah. 

1147
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,160
Yeah, yeah, for sure. 
But we're close. 

1148
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,400
Yeah. 
Last year we played it 100% was 

1149
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,200
the first time, but we're 
usually in the upper 90s. 

1150
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,120
It also helps you to know what 
games you need to just sell. 

1151
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,960
Of course, and I think that's a 
great and that's a great. 

1152
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,400
I go back and look. 
I mean, that's why I love I made

1153
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,720
a video on like why I use BG 
stats and that was one big thing

1154
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,120
is like I love be able to look 
at and see like when's the last 

1155
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,760
time I played this game? 
Oh, I haven't played this since 

1156
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,840
2023. 
Like can I justify keeping this 

1157
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240
in my collection? 
Like is it sentimental or or 

1158
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
what? 
So, yeah, that that's big. 

1159
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,520
The only other thing I would 
say, you know, I think we talked

1160
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,600
about, you know, women and 
diversity, I do think is a big a

1161
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,680
big factor that we can we can be
more welcoming. 

1162
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,640
That's always a given. 
I think we should be more. 

1163
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,080
But one thing about the 
welcoming side that I really try

1164
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,520
to combat is people. 
And this is something that's in 

1165
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,480
a lot of hobbies. 
You know, it's happened in golf,

1166
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,160
it happens in billiards, 
probably. 

1167
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,520
I don't know. 
But people forget what it's like

1168
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,520
to be a beginner. 
You know, it's that they call it

1169
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,280
like a the curse of knowledge or
the curse of expertise. 

1170
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,520
You know, you have that math 
professor that's trying to teach

1171
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,920
Algebra 1, you know, and they 
can't do it because they, they 

1172
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,280
just can't even imagine what 
it's like to not remember. 

1173
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,120
And so with board games, I think
it's really pronounced. 

1174
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,000
And one sentence I've been 
really trying not to say is it's

1175
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,280
super simple. 
Like I when I'm teaching like 

1176
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,040
it's super simple because then 
as soon as you say that, people 

1177
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,560
feel dumb because you're and, 
and my, and we're going to bring

1178
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,320
up Wingspan again, but like 
infamous clip. 

1179
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Do you know what I'm about to 
say? 

1180
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,920
The infamous clip, Mandy 
Patinkin, you know who played in

1181
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,200
Inga Montoya, his son is 
teaching him and his wife 

1182
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Wingspan. 
They're reading the rules and 

1183
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,080
they are laughing with 
hysterics. 

1184
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,080
There you go. 
Because because it's so complex 

1185
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,040
to them and any board gamer 
would say Wingspan is a gateway 

1186
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,080
game. 
And I think that's one thing 

1187
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,120
that I made a video on being the
absolute beginners guide to 

1188
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,640
board games. 
Like, I just think there's a lot

1189
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,600
that you now have subconsciously
on the on the under the iceberg 

1190
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,440
that you're not realizing when 
you say it's a trick taking game

1191
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,760
or you say it's a deck building 
game. 

1192
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,280
You automatically know half the 
rules as a as a veteran board 

1193
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,360
gamer, you know, and so then 
you're like, this is so easy. 

1194
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Like, why are you confused? 
You know, like that's a baby 

1195
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,200
game or that's a gateway get 
like the the snobbery of veteran

1196
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,000
hood. 
I think is something I that that

1197
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,520
get that grinds my gear since 
you since you gave me a 

1198
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,920
platform, you know? 
That that is, that is fair. 

1199
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,720
We dedicated an episode. 
I really wish I could tell you 

1200
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,160
which one it is. 
We talked about how do you talk 

1201
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,400
to non gamers about our hobby 
without losing board game lingo.

1202
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,560
It was a great conversation 
guys. 

1203
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Go back and check that out. 
Yeah, I gotta find that myself. 

1204
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,800
I will tell you that it's before
episode 100, so it's audio only 

1205
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,240
because it was. 
That was back in the day. 

1206
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaking of, back in the day you
referred to yourself as the High

1207
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,320
Priest of the Cult of the New 
just a moment ago, which I love,

1208
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,760
by the way. 
I stole that. 

1209
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,400
I stole that from Big Pasti. 
You got to give Big Pasti his 

1210
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,840
credit. 
Yeah. 

1211
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,800
On YouTube, yeah. 
I am, I'm the hierophant of the 

1212
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,200
classics. 
Beautiful. 

1213
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,520
So it's the opposite, right? 
Love it. 

1214
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,120
What when? 
When this whole concept of 

1215
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,720
community, this whole concept of
this series came about. 

1216
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,960
We were talking about back then 
tariffs on China, 140% what's 

1217
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,600
going to happen, the cult of the
new that our content is 

1218
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,440
completely dependent upon, 
right? 

1219
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,560
It's like, and yet you hear 
people talk about it all the 

1220
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,600
time, but we don't play Catan 
anymore and we don't play name 

1221
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,680
name the classic right that we 
don't we don't get to play. 

1222
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,560
And I want to see those games 
hit your table. 

1223
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,160
My challenge to the community is
that you pull out Alhambra, you 

1224
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,120
pull out aka Romana, you pull 
out Twilight Struggle, right? 

1225
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Play that with your spouse, 
right? 

1226
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,360
Let's let's they're on your 
shelf for a reason. 

1227
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,440
You fell in love with them. 
That love did not disappear. 

1228
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,680
It just got buried by the new. 
And 100% and they build, I mean 

1229
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,520
they're building on the like 
shoulders of giants a lot of 

1230
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,640
times too. 
You know, I am, I am very much 

1231
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,080
getting to the point like Carpe 
Diem is only like 6 or 7 years 

1232
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,160
old. 
But I've really been trying to 

1233
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,240
get into these old school games.
There's a Guild on board Game 

1234
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,720
Geek called the OGS which stands
which is old school German 

1235
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,760
style. 
Do you know this one? 

1236
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,480
I know them. 
Yeah, and like every game on 

1237
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,520
this list I love. 
And it's like I'm finding that a

1238
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,920
lot of game, again, this is this
now. 

1239
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,080
Now we're talking about problems
of the industry where I'm just 

1240
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,240
agreeing with you here. 
Something I find is that every 

1241
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,240
game that comes out, a lot of 
the games that come out are 

1242
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,160
adding complexity for the sake 
of complexity, you know, And I 

1243
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,800
think a game that has 
streamlined rules, I mean, my 

1244
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:58,480
ideal game is like a medium 
weight 45 minute per player game

1245
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,640
like that is perfect for me. 
And so I I just think sometimes 

1246
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,840
with all the more complexity and
if it's got an hour long set up 

1247
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,720
like I am out, you know, so I 
think those older games like 

1248
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,640
they it's old because it's good.
It's the test of time. 

1249
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,360
Are you prepared? 
Because this is real talk now, 

1250
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,200
right? 
Please understand this is coming

1251
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,240
from someone who does not have a
child so I do not understand 

1252
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,400
what fatherhood is like. 
Are you prepared for how much 

1253
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,160
that's going to change in the 
new year when your child 

1254
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,600
arrives? 
No. 

1255
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,680
Yeah. 
OK, no, Alex. 

1256
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,800
OK, no, I'm not mentally 
prepared. 

1257
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:44,520
I I already feel so time poor, 
to be honest, but it's one of 

1258
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,480
those things where I'm like, I 
just just by the age of five. 

1259
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,280
A shout out to board game blitz.
Again. 

1260
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,800
We were talking about talking 
about podcasting and everything.

1261
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,680
They do a great like 30 minute 
episode. 

1262
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,040
But Andy, she's got two sons and
she always talks about all the 

1263
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,000
games that they play and like 
teaching them games earlier and 

1264
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,480
just like modifying rules and 
stuff. 

1265
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,160
So I'm very excited about that. 
My wife is like trying to tamper

1266
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,680
my expectations. 
They're like, she's not going to

1267
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,680
be playing a big euro at two 
years old, Reginald. 

1268
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,240
No, no, she's definitely not. 
So I think what's going to 

1269
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,680
happen here is based on my 
understanding, and I would send 

1270
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,360
you back to, I think it's 
Episode 127, OK with Susie from 

1271
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,800
Games with Beanie. 
We talk about bringing your 

1272
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,440
family to game conventions and 
the strategies of being able to 

1273
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:37,080
the go to the board game as a 
content creator, but managing 

1274
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,440
your parental duties and 
ensuring that your kids are 

1275
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,920
having a good time as well. 
Now you've got a few years 

1276
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,600
before that I understand. 
I got some time and what people 

1277
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,080
tell me who are parents is like 
newborns, you know, they kind of

1278
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,640
just sit around a lot, you know,
So there's time to, if you're a 

1279
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,440
solo gamer, like that's a good 
time to get some stuff in. 

1280
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,480
And it's also not putting on 
headphones, like I'm, I'm being 

1281
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,200
attentive. 
I can hear her, right. 

1282
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,080
And also, again, this is all in 
theory. 

1283
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,840
This is all theoretical, you 
know, in practice. 

1284
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,840
We'll see. 
We'll see. 

1285
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,040
What happens? 
But you know, you've got it, 

1286
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,000
you're going to do well. 
So getting to the end here, I 

1287
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,160
want to ask you, I've got two 
more real kind of questions I 

1288
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,600
want to ask. 
First of all is when you got 

1289
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,600
into, when you pivoted your 
content creation from video 

1290
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,720
games to board games. 
And I think you've mentioned 

1291
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,200
them, but who really inspired 
you the most? 

1292
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,480
Got it. 
OK. 

1293
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,320
I'm sorry. 
I'm going to shout them out 

1294
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,600
again. 
Yeah, Thank you. 

1295
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,720
Yeah, definitely have to give 
our family plays games a big 

1296
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,880
shout out. 
You know, their their OFPG 

1297
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,440
Voices team was inspiring, even 
though I was on it, because 

1298
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,480
there were just so many people 
from so many different walks of 

1299
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,560
life. 
And it was just all about, like,

1300
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,720
showing how diverse the amount 
of the gaming community actually

1301
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,480
is. 
You know, more than what you 

1302
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,800
might think of when you say, 
imagine a board gamer in your 

1303
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,360
head. 
So they're great I got to give 

1304
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,160
them because they really 
inspired me to like make videos 

1305
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,080
because I had to make some for 
their channel first. 

1306
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,520
I got all you can board if you 
guys are listening to this. 

1307
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,960
I think one of them had a kid, 
which was a big reason why they 

1308
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,360
stopped making content. 
So I'm like, I hope hope that's 

1309
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,440
not me deadline, but who knows. 
But but they did so many great 

1310
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,720
videos. 
I thought they just were so 

1311
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,000
awesome on YouTube and, and my 
personal favorite YouTube is 

1312
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,000
actual LOL, who is a British guy
and he makes these just 

1313
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000
incredible videos that are just 
so well produced and he's got an

1314
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,920
editor now and everything. 
But I was watching them really 

1315
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,680
those three, I was watching 
really early on and that kind of

1316
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,600
was like inspiration for that. 
But I will also say as just a 

1317
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,600
content creator tip, which 
again, I still don't really view

1318
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,600
myself as a content creator, but
because I consume so much 

1319
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,760
content is that, you know, I, I 
watch video game people, I watch

1320
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,040
like sports channels, I watch 
booktubers, you know, I watch 

1321
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,640
these people in different fields
and I get, you know, you can 

1322
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,800
learn from anybody, you know, 
and I think that's a big thing 

1323
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,080
that I've learned when it comes 
to making videos is that I, I've

1324
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,160
taken complete, I do a board 
game tag in the middle of the 

1325
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,120
year. 
It's like one of my most 

1326
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,040
successful videos. 
Every year I tag a bunch of 

1327
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,840
people, the mid year board game 
tag every year in about June. 

1328
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,920
And I took that strictly from a 
booktuber. 

1329
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,600
You know, that was someone who 
the booktube community did that 

1330
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,960
and so I don't know what we are 
BG tube, Maple tube, I don't 

1331
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,880
know what our what the YouTube 
give you to do. 

1332
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,240
That's a. 
Great question. 

1333
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,880
I'm not really. 
I don't know. 

1334
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,200
My last question to you is what 
advice do you have to someone 

1335
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,560
who approaches you is like, hey,
Reggie, I'm thinking about 

1336
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,760
really getting intentional about
my content for my board games. 

1337
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,160
Wow. 
Yeah. 

1338
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Definitely learn from anybody. 
Like consume a lot of content. 

1339
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,360
Of course, it's like they always
say, like good directors have to

1340
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,200
watch a lot of movies, you know,
and I, I do think that like good

1341
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,560
authors have to read a lot of 
books. 

1342
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,280
You do have to consume a lot to 
actually, I do think there's a 

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,760
lot of people out there and I 
sometimes get my feelings hurt 

1344
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,320
because I'm like, I'm watching 
all my friends out there, you 

1345
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,320
know, and I'm commenting and I 
do those things and sometimes 

1346
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,880
I'm like, where are my big 
content creative friends that 

1347
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,480
I'm watching their videos? 
But it's not, again, it's not 

1348
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,080
transactional, but sometimes I'm
like, what what what's what's 

1349
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,160
going on with that? 
But what I will say is numbers. 

1350
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,800
I think the biggest thing is 
like, you just, and this goes 

1351
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,560
for anything like my football 
coach used to say, like the most

1352
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,520
insignificant score in football 
is at halftime. 

1353
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,760
You know, like you should not be
looking at the scoreboard to 

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,440
influence how you do things. 
So what I'm saying is you 

1355
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,000
shouldn't be looking at the 
subscriber count. 

1356
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,440
You shouldn't be looking at your
followers, how many views that 

1357
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,000
thing got. 
Like yes, you can use analytics 

1358
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,880
to like inform what videos are 
doing well or what posts are 

1359
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,200
doing well. 
If it's reels or tik Toks or 

1360
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,680
whatever, what podcasts are 
doing well. 

1361
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,640
Like maybe I need to do a better
title or do something, try 

1362
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,520
something. 
If it's a lot of 

1363
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,800
experimentation. 
It's a lot of trial and error. 

1364
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,440
And I just noticed my friends 
who focus on the numbers too 

1365
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,800
much, it's just, it's just so 
hard on your mental. 

1366
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,360
Like it's just such a negative 
loop where I'm just like, it's 

1367
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,400
OK. 
And I can tell them all the 

1368
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,320
time, like, why do you care so 
much about it? 

1369
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,960
But they just do, you know, And 
I, and it's so hard for me. 

1370
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,400
I'm, you know, I see this as a 
hobby and so like taking it too 

1371
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,600
seriously. 
If you do have a day job, if you

1372
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,240
are paying your bills to as a 
caveat is is a lot, but then 

1373
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,240
same in that same vein, content 
output is like just do it when 

1374
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,319
you have the capacity. 
Let let's shout out my my board 

1375
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:25,800
game bestie, Iris Crimson board 
games started a channel like a 

1376
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,120
year after me has like 100 more 
videos than I have on my channel

1377
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:32,520
and and she's just doing great 
and she has more subscribers. 

1378
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,520
She does great and I think 
that's awesome for I just I have

1379
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,279
less videos because I just 
sometimes I'm in a spurt of 

1380
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:39,840
making. 
I'm making a video a week and 

1381
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,359
sometimes I haven't made a video
for two months and it's just 

1382
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,319
depends on what's going on with 
life. 

1383
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,319
So I think that's that's the big
thing like when you have 

1384
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,080
capacity and just really don't 
care about the numbers too much 

1385
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,399
because it just this is not good
for your mental health. 

1386
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:53,439
There's no way. 
Well said. 

1387
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:58,640
Well said, Reggie. 
Thank you so very much. 

1388
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,800
This was just, this was a treat 
for me. 

1389
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,160
It was treat for me. 
Thank you. 

1390
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,720
Thank you for all these amazing 
people you're bringing off to on

1391
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,399
your platform. 
Like thank you, keep. 

1392
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,560
I love this. 
I love this idea, like giving 

1393
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,080
people a space to talk and also 
keeps it fresh for you. 

1394
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,399
But like, it is more work for 
you. 

1395
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,960
So I want you listeners to know 
he is doing way more work than 

1396
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,720
we are doing to bring you this 
lovely content. 

1397
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,479
So yeah, I really appreciate it.
Yeah, so Reggie, remind everyone

1398
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,240
where they can find you if they 
want to reach out to you or 

1399
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,720
collaborate or anything. 
As I always say, I am found at 

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,279
Rolling dot Reggie all over the 
interwebs, but primarily 

1401
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,560
YouTube, Instagram, Blue Sky not
X. 

1402
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,359
And I'm also on a lovely podcast
on all platforms with my buddy 

1403
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:47,960
Jazz called Bored States BOARD 
States with the best logo in the

1404
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,479
biz designed by Ken and it's 
very cool. 

1405
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,279
So Bored States Pod is where I 
would direct any new people to 

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,840
check us out right now. 
Excellent, guys. 

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,160
Don't forget to hit the like and
subscribe. 

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,720
I know we just talked about that
the numbers don't matter, but 

1409
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:04,880
I'm doing all this hard work. 
Still help, still give some 

1410
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,840
dopamine. 
I need feels good. 

1411
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,920
I need a little bit. 
I also need to know if this is 

1412
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,120
gonna be the thing for the 
future. 

1413
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,920
I need to see that you're 
watching so you know and 

1414
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,680
comment. 
I will comment. 

1415
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,240
I give them some new questions, 
give them some fun questions to 

1416
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,480
ask. 
Like that's great. 

1417
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,360
Like get, get some, get some 
ideas out there. 

1418
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,600
There's going to be a lot of 
That's great. 

1419
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,000
Podcaster, how about that? 
My God, I'm my God. 

1420
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,040
I'm old. 
That's great. 

1421
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,360
It's a great reference. 
But as always, guys, remember, 

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,440
be kind to each other. 
Let's play more games, those 

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01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:38,920
Vamos.
