1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840
Welcome to Meeple to Meeple 
uniting players around the 

2
00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,600
world, a 30 minute exploration 
of PJ and Gareth's four-game 

3
00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,480
experiences from across both 
sides of the Atlantic. 

4
00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,720
Each episode, they share their 
thoughts and opinions on the 

5
00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,280
World of War games, including 
their favorite themes, games, 

6
00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,760
hot topics, and much, much more.
Hey guys, and welcome to Episode

7
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:27,000
81 Board Game Conventions. 
A preview, As always, I am PJ 

8
00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,440
and I'm happy. 
Happy to report that our good 

9
00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,680
friend Gareth is back. 
How? 

10
00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,520
Are you? 
I'm good. 

11
00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,240
Where's John? 
He was a good replacement 

12
00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,960
though, mind you. 
He was good. 

13
00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,120
He did a sterling job of 
covering my tardiness, but I was

14
00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,960
a bit busy. 
You are work life. 

15
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,240
He's taken a little bit too much
at the moment, but it is ball 

16
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640
game convention season. 
That's right. 

17
00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,440
You've just been spent some time
somewhere. 

18
00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:58,160
We've got the UKGE 11 days away.
I think it's a countdown I saw. 

19
00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,200
That's crazy. 
That it's a year, another year 

20
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,800
has gone by and and we'll be 
there for sure. 

21
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,920
And then you're going, you've 
got some other stuff coming up, 

22
00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,960
you've got a few other origins, 
is it? 

23
00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,200
Yeah. 
So I I just got back from Geek 

24
00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,640
Way to the West, which is still 
going on at the time of this 

25
00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,480
recording and then I'm going to 
Origins and then I'm going to 

26
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,520
Gen. 
Con this summer. 

27
00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,320
So. 
So we're just going to kind of 

28
00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:30,560
talk about what our plans are, 
who we're going to see, what 

29
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,280
we're looking forward to 
getting. 

30
00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,840
Gaming, yeah, that's the plan. 
Housing. 

31
00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,320
So you did a day at Kikui? 
I did a day so. 

32
00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,280
How was that? 
What did you see? 

33
00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,520
It was great. 
Did you see? 

34
00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,600
Yep. 
What do you do? 

35
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,920
I did a lot. 
What did you buy? 

36
00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,320
I bought one game. 
I bought one game. 

37
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,760
So, all right, you know, this is
great. 

38
00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,080
OK, so this is a really good 
story and this is a great way to

39
00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,120
start. 
I don't know if you noticed, but

40
00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,120
hopefully everyone has noticed. 
We post. 

41
00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,360
I posted a reel on Meeble to 
Meeble on Instagram and it was 

42
00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,400
about wandering towers. 
It was kind of a reel with all 

43
00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,680
these little pictures and 
everything. 

44
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,640
So one of our friend, one of 
Happy Meeble's friends from 

45
00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:28,760
Nebraska who I had never met 
before, they 3D printed me the 

46
00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,480
towers for the game Wandering 
Towers. 

47
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,520
And so I meet Jared and he's 
like, hey man, it's great to 

48
00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,520
meet you. 
I'm really excited. 

49
00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,480
And he presents me this, you 
know, this grocery bag with 

50
00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,600
these beautiful 3D printed tower
components. 

51
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,080
And I'm like, are you serious? 
I thought he was joking because 

52
00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,160
in the chat we were talking 
about it a week ago. 

53
00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000
And I was like, I thought he was
just kidding with me, you know? 

54
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:58,080
And I was like, Jared, I don't 
even own this game, so I didn't.

55
00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,480
That's what you owned it. 
No. 

56
00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,680
Oh yeah. 
Oh, I see now I see where this 

57
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,520
is going. 
So I ran to the vendor hall as 

58
00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,320
soon as it opened and I bought a
copy of Wandering Tower so that 

59
00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,800
we could, you know, we could 
play with the fancy beautiful 

60
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,520
tower pieces and it hit our 
table yesterday with our our 

61
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,480
game group and it was pretty 
fantastic. 

62
00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:23,920
Everyone had a had a good time. 
It feels like it feels like that

63
00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,720
the game Wandering Towers is in 
the same universe as Quacks of 

64
00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,560
Quedlingberg. 
So it's kind of like you're 

65
00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440
Wizards and you're trying to 
move your Wizards in the circle,

66
00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,880
and then you can move the towers
right? 

67
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,360
By using your magic, you're 
trying to get all of your 

68
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,720
Wizards into the Dark Tower. 
I feel like that's the magic 

69
00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,960
training school. 
And then you pack up all your 

70
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,840
ingredients and you go to the 
local village of Quedlenburg and

71
00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,960
you try to sell your potions, 
right? 

72
00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,920
So that's kind of how those two 
games in my mind work, but. 

73
00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,280
So that was that. 
Was good. 

74
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,240
No, you do. 
It's really good. 

75
00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,520
Yeah, we, I think it was in my 
hand in we were in. 

76
00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840
I think it was Christmas time we
were in Manchester, Tomboy 

77
00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:17,200
Fanboy 3 and I picked it up and 
Gary wasn't sure, but I thought 

78
00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320
he looked so good for the gaming
group and those 3D printed 

79
00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,200
minis. 
I'm just going to watch the I've

80
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,640
been watched the the real game. 
They are lovely. 

81
00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,080
They're really cool. 
They're really awesome. 

82
00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,280
But so I went down to Saint 
Louis for a day and I visited 

83
00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:38,720
with Obsessed with Board Games 
and her with Obsession. 

84
00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,200
Obsessed with Board Game. 
Mr. Obsessed with Board Games. 

85
00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,960
It's Lauren Ryan. 
Beautiful people love them so 

86
00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,200
much. 
I met so many folks. 

87
00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,720
Happy Meebles was there, both 
Nick and Mandy. 

88
00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,760
I got a chance to visit with 
Danielle Reynolds, the designer 

89
00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,960
of Her Story and her new game 
that's coming out next month at 

90
00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,920
Origin. 
So that's caution signs you 

91
00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880
would probably see her play, 
testing it everywhere. 

92
00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,560
Got to see some friends who work
for wise wizard games. 

93
00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400
Saw Jamie Stegmeyer? 
Got to say hello. 

94
00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,880
Let's see some. 
The friends Jared and Susie that

95
00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,520
are friends with happy Meebles 
that they came down met Aaron. 

96
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,520
I don't remember Aaron's last 
name, but he's bring your own 

97
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,080
dice. 
On. 

98
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200
Instagram. 
So he's got a game in progress 

99
00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,120
right now that he's working on 
called Raising Rabbits. 

100
00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,120
I got to play that. 
I got to spend a good bit of 

101
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,560
time with him. 
He'll hopefully he'll be sending

102
00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,720
us both copies of his game and 
then we're going to have him on 

103
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320
in the future. 
He'll be releasing his game 

104
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,640
hopefully in July or August or 
sometime this summer, is what he

105
00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,480
said. 
So that was a lot of fun playing

106
00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,480
that and God, I mean who else 
did I meet? 

107
00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,040
For those of you I forgot, don't
get mad. 

108
00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,760
Of course Adri was in from Costa
Rica. 

109
00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,440
Wanderer, Wanderer, meeple. 
She was in town. 

110
00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:17,160
We got to visit and hang out. 
Wow, let me look at my list. 

111
00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,000
Who else did I meet? 
I met a lot of people and play 

112
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440
tested a lot of games. 
Heather was there. 

113
00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,760
Heather Dixon, She's just she is
killing it on Kickstarter. 

114
00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,800
Yeah. 
Apostock. 

115
00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:31,160
She has very little. 
Yeah. 

116
00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800
Let's see. 
Megan from board games, paint 

117
00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,880
and hand stands. 
That's a mouthful. 

118
00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,000
That's that's a long name. 
Board games, paint and hand 

119
00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,920
stands. 
I met her. 

120
00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520
Hand stands. 
I met her and her husband. 

121
00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,320
Her and her. 
Her husband and I had this great

122
00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,680
conversation about Star Trek for
like 20 minutes, which is kind 

123
00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,800
of awesome. 
Kristen Mott, designer of 

124
00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,720
Dinosaur Exhibit Sharks. 
She's got another game coming 

125
00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:10,880
she's working on right now. 
Got to play test that Thea, who 

126
00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,680
is perpetually bored on 
Instagram. 

127
00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:21,040
Thea is so delightful. 
I don't know, she's just 

128
00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,080
incredible. 
She's local to Saint Louis, 

129
00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,520
just, you know, a gamer. 
She's kind of fantastic, really 

130
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,240
fun, very positive person. 
So it was great to add her to 

131
00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,360
the the group of people that we 
can go visit. 

132
00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,480
Follow him. 
Yep. 

133
00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,760
Yep. 
So that's that's pretty good. 

134
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,800
Yeah, we're a lot of folks. 
Did you see any new games? 

135
00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080
Nothing that's used, nothing. 
Nothing has been released yet. 

136
00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,000
Yeah, it's, but it's more the 
gaming and the. 

137
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,560
Yeah, Geekway's got a huge it's 
it's a big a big play to win 

138
00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,120
library. 
So and then an open gaming area.

139
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,160
The the vendor Hall's really 
small like 12. 

140
00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,600
Yeah yeah, 12 or 13 vendors. 
If you're interested, go to 

141
00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,200
Happy Meeples. 
She posted a bunch of reels 

142
00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,760
where she did videos where she 
let all the members talk about 

143
00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,840
their stuff. 
Yeah, she did a really good job 

144
00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,320
of that. 
I was there for the one day, so 

145
00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,720
I was doing a lot of meeting 
greeting of game designers, play

146
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,360
testing games and scheduling 
them to come on our podcast. 

147
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,760
What was? 
The high What was the highlight 

148
00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,240
of the games? 
What was your Oh, that was a 

149
00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,000
great game moment. 
I gotta tell you, raising 

150
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,679
rabbits was fantastic. 
Raising rabbits. 

151
00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480
Yes, I'm I'm ready to play that 
again. 

152
00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,280
Mostly because it uses my 
favorite word in the English 

153
00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,960
language. 
Which is? 

154
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480
Poop. 
Poop. 

155
00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,800
Yeah, it's quite a it's quite a 
fun word. 

156
00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,320
It's a it's this cool game 
because like you get you get 14 

157
00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,400
actions over six rounds, right? 
Which is 6 months. 

158
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,920
So you have these little action 
cubes. 

159
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,560
Every time you take an action, 
you put it down. 

160
00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,040
One of the actions, because 
you're raising rabbits, is that 

161
00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,840
you can collect their poop. 
Poop. 

162
00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,080
And you sell it for money, for 
fertilizer, for farms. 

163
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,040
So I'm like, all right, yeah. 
Is it? 

164
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,920
Is it poop shaped or is it 
cubes? 

165
00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,440
It's cubes. 
The cubes, yeah. 

166
00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:22,840
Painful. 
Yeah. 

167
00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280
Painful poop. 
Painful poop. 

168
00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600
But yeah, that's so be looking 
forward to that. 

169
00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040
We'll have Aaron on. 
I've noted it down. 

170
00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,680
Raising raising rabbits this 
year. 

171
00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,160
Sometimes this summer. 
OK, so Kickstarter or. 

172
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,160
Kickstarter, he's he's he's 
really close to finishing. 

173
00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120
I like to think we gave him some
constructive criticism that's 

174
00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,280
just going to improve the game 
ever so slightly. 

175
00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,080
Nice. 
Yeah. 

176
00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,880
You know, you can only hear so 
many times. 

177
00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,160
Oh, that was fun. 
Well, I need more as creators, 

178
00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360
right? 
As creatives, we need real 

179
00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,520
feedback. 
That's what. 

180
00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,640
That's what makes us better, 
right. 

181
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,840
So yeah, so that was Geekway. 
I got to see everybody, visit 

182
00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,760
with everyone, play some games, 
plan some things out. 

183
00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:19,080
Yeah, Heather says hello. 
She was, she was busy. 

184
00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,480
She's. 
Not got long to go, she how many

185
00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,920
days? 
It's nearly over, isn't? 

186
00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,800
It I think, I think of the Stacy
has like a week left maybe five 

187
00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,560
days just. 
Kind of. 

188
00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:30,960
Look my it's not even loading. 
You may be faster than me. 

189
00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,360
Maybe. 
Three days, three days 3. 

190
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,800
Days. 
Three days. 

191
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,160
Three days. 
So y'all better hurry up. 

192
00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,280
Apostocracy is coming to an end 
and you need a copy. 

193
00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:51,560
It is the quintessential 
defining board game that you 

194
00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,840
play right before playing 
Obsession. 

195
00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,040
Those two games fit so well 
together. 

196
00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:06,200
I'm telling you, I'm yeah, I 
can't wait for to get my copy. 

197
00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,120
It's just a warm up. 
It is. 

198
00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,000
It's a total warm up. 
That was the disappointment as 

199
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000
everyone wanted to play 
obsession with me, especially 

200
00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,560
after I think it was episode 79 
where we talked about teaching 

201
00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:23,280
tips and I said the one game 
that I could play just 

202
00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,160
out-of-the-box is Obsession. 
And so there were people who 

203
00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,000
wanted to, but schedules didn't 
end because I was only there for

204
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000
the day. 
So this is a this is an 

205
00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,640
interesting at least for me 
anyway. 

206
00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,920
It's an interesting convention 
season because of our two weeks 

207
00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,600
jaunt in England. 
All my all my convention visits 

208
00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,800
are abbreviated. 
So one day at Geek Way, I'll be 

209
00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,680
one day at Origins. 
I'll be at one day at Gen. 

210
00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:54,640
Con too. 
So yeah, but. 

211
00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,240
In UKGE in between, yes. 
In what, 11 days? 

212
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880
11 days. 
If you're not going or not heard

213
00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,640
of UKGE, I'm I'm sure most 
listeners have it's UK Games 

214
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,080
Expo. 
It's probably the biggest trade 

215
00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,400
stroke open gaming. 
There are other session other 

216
00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,840
cons which focus more on the 
gaming element but it's you know

217
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,440
2 trade, two huge trade alls at 
the NEC in Birmingham starts on 

218
00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,560
the Friday the 31st of May which
are most people in in the UK. 

219
00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:30,360
That's half term holidays, runs 
till the Sunday 2nd of June. 

220
00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,880
We'll be there Thursday, mid 
afternoon. 

221
00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,160
There's a press event on 
Thursday night, so our Thursday 

222
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,520
late afternoon which we will go 
and attend. 

223
00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,200
Plenty of people emailing in and
asking us to go and look at 

224
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,600
their wares. 
I'll be honest, I have not done 

225
00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,720
enough research yet. 
Work is too busy, so much that I

226
00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,680
have Thursday off. 
But now I'm going to go and do a

227
00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:00,560
pitch Thursday morning on the 
route to the UK games net. 

228
00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,760
So we'll leave my daughter in 
the car or in reception as I 

229
00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,720
drive to Coventry to do some 
work and then head to the UKGE 

230
00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,040
in the afternoon, which is I 
think it actually works. 

231
00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,080
OK, I only had the morning off. 
Only had the afternoon off 

232
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,600
anyway, so but I wasn't planning
to do a pitch that's snuck in. 

233
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,400
There's bound to be like a board
game cafe or just some sort of 

234
00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,280
coffee shop for her to go hang 
out. 

235
00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,440
Not where, not where. 
This place is. 

236
00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,600
OK, yeah, it's like it's like an
industrial site. 

237
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,360
So, so yeah, so we've got, so 
we've got that to look forward 

238
00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,440
to. 
Lots of people chatting away 

239
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,840
like in the Instagram UKG chat 
group. 

240
00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,680
I can't keep up with the 
constant barrage of information.

241
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,760
I know there's a bingo 
Instagrammer hunt hunt the 

242
00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,280
Instagrammer bingo game. 
So keep an eye out for that and 

243
00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,920
then people are starting to 
write their top ten lists, a bit

244
00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,800
like Geek Way. 
It's not really a big release 

245
00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,400
show. 
So there's I was reading earlier

246
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600
someone's done some work about 
maybe a 250 games, but some of 

247
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,480
the games that are new are 
actually being released like 

248
00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,880
2019. 
So I'm not quite what sure 

249
00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,520
what's classed as new, but 
there'll be lots of things to 

250
00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,960
see, lots of things to test or 
test or you know, preview. 

251
00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960
I haven't got much to buy, which
is good news. 

252
00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,840
I think the only given is is 
Rats of Rats of Worcester, 

253
00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,040
Worcester. 
OK. 

254
00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,880
All right. 
That's on my list. 

255
00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,760
Maybe you could get a copy of 
Wandering Towers while you're 

256
00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,160
there too? 
Well, maybe. 

257
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,120
Maybe. 
That's not a bad shout. 

258
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,560
Only me and Kira, Only me and 
Kira are going. 

259
00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,360
There's no Mrs. Ball game, 
people. 

260
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,400
She's got to work, so we'll be 
there. 

261
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520
I have my mics with me, so if 
you were around last year and 

262
00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,120
you want to get involved, we 
will mic you up, Let me, you 

263
00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,760
know, 30 seconds of your time. 
Tell me what you think of the 

264
00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:07,960
show, what you've seen and 
what's the best thing about, you

265
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,000
know, that that kind of stuff. 
So that worked quite well last 

266
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,640
year. 
Yeah, I didn't get to do any 

267
00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,200
recording a geek way that I was 
too busy play testing games. 

268
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,120
It is. 
It is remembering it. 

269
00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,040
It's so easy to to forget and 
chat. 

270
00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440
It is, I think. 
Last year I did a few things and

271
00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,760
went I've forgotten to turn the 
mic on or I've not taken the 

272
00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,640
mics with me. 
So I'm going to give you, I'm 

273
00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,760
going to give you an assignment.
There are two people that you 

274
00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360
absolutely must find. 
Pen. 

275
00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680
My pen is in hand. 
You must find. 

276
00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440
They're on the bingo card. 
They probably are. 

277
00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,840
You have to tell them that I 
said hello. 

278
00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,080
You have to give them a hug for 
me and just get a sound bite 

279
00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880
from them both and then one of 
them is Pink Meeple. 

280
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,720
Our good friend Alex, she's 
going to her first convention 

281
00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,280
ever and this is going to be it,
so. 

282
00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,960
Yeah, she she did a really nice 
video of all the people. 

283
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,600
She did. 
She's she's she's nervous, so 

284
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800
y'all got to make her feel at 
home. 

285
00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,960
She'll get me Grandma UKG. 
Welcome. 

286
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,760
And then the other one is Hannah
Hand Hand plays games hand. 

287
00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,360
Yeah. 
Right. 

288
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,760
You know who I'm. 
Talking about Yeah, I know, 

289
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,640
yeah. 
Her too. 

290
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,040
Neither one of them, neither one
of them could make it to Cajun 

291
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160
Con. 
Just scheduling didn't work out.

292
00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,920
So you're going to meet them at 
UKGE and it's going to be great.

293
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,480
We do the sound bites, yeah, 
yeah, there's there's a lot of 

294
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,960
new Instagramers or either to UK
Games Expo in the group, so lots

295
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,880
of new voices to hear. 
There are, yeah, there really 

296
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,080
are. 
So, So that's exciting. 

297
00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,040
That's cool. 
Yeah, it's yeah, I can't believe

298
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,760
it's come round again. 
I just it's kind of blinked and 

299
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,120
boom, we're in conventions. 
Do this. 

300
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,800
Didn't we do this last year? 
I think so we did and then we 

301
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,440
were like, I think I was a bit a
bit more planned. 

302
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,720
I should do my planning over the
weekend ready for next week. 

303
00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:08,800
Because you had a whole list of 
recordings from designers and 

304
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,119
then you had a whole list 
recording from boomers, so. 

305
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,040
I've got three appointments 
lined up that I've replied to so

306
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:21,040
far, but yeah, work is just 
taking a minority moment. 

307
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,160
Gaming is second. 
Well, game is about fifth 

308
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,920
currently. 
Yeah, So what? 

309
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,040
Wow. 
Maybe even last. 

310
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,840
It's not good. 
That is not good. 

311
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,800
Yeah. 
What's But we're lucky. 

312
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:41,560
We're lucky that we have friends
like John to step in when you're

313
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,640
busy. 
We need like a whole cast. 

314
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,200
We yeah, we definitely need to 
do that. 

315
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,960
We should, we should definitely 
have like substitutes and. 

316
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,800
Stuff. 
Yeah, yeah. 

317
00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,320
Anyone wants to get involved, 
just message us. 

318
00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,520
Yep, do it. 
Variety is always good, so so on

319
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,360
to UK GS out the way. 
Is it origins? 

320
00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,080
It's usually a couple of weeks 
later, 3 weeks later? 

321
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,280
What date is Origins? 
So Origins Game Fair It's June 

322
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,600
19th to the 23rd. 
Yeah, so, like, yeah, like, just

323
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,800
like the shot. 
Weeks last year I've worked the 

324
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,440
whole convention for wise wizard
games. 

325
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,080
We were about to say that was 
wise, Wizard, wasn't it? 

326
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,760
Yeah. 
So just through a stroke of 

327
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000
unfortunate events, they didn't 
need me this year. 

328
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,600
OK, no worries. 
So we're going to go to see 

329
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240
Katie's parents and we're going 
to only go down to Origins for a

330
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,560
day, so. 
What day are you going? 

331
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,040
On it is going to be the Friday 
the. 

332
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,040
Friday, which I? 
Think is. 

333
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,920
That a better day? 
Like, I always think that Friday

334
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,000
is the best at UKGE because it's
it's not insanely busy because 

335
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,280
Saturday's a write off. 
I think for Origins, Friday is 

336
00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,640
the better day. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

337
00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,520
I don't know what day that is, 
though. 

338
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,480
Come on. 
I'm looking that up right now in

339
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:12,040
the calendar. 
That's the 21st, the 21st. 21st.

340
00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,320
So Friday the 21st, our friends 
are going to be there. 

341
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,720
I know that I'm going to see 
Adam tabletop vibes. 

342
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,880
We're going to, we're going to, 
We've got to meet up. 

343
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,720
We're doing a board game swap. 
I've got a game that he wants 

344
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,080
and he's got a game that I want.
Well, he has a lot of games I 

345
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:34,480
want, but, but we're going to do
a swap and so yeah, that'll be 

346
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,800
fun. 
It's just going to be a day for 

347
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,360
us to explore. 
Katie's never been to Origins 

348
00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:40,680
so. 
Hasn't she? 

349
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,080
No, she's never. 
Been I didn't know that. 

350
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,480
I've been. 
It's always. 

351
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,360
It's really gentle that you guys
go together. 

352
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,080
Yeah, so the vendor, the the 
vendor hall or the trade hall, 

353
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,160
the events area and the open 
gaming and the games lobby, 

354
00:19:56,360 --> 00:20:00,160
they're all in the they're all 
in the same physical space, 

355
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,480
right? 
They might be divided by walls, 

356
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,640
but they're in the same space. 
Whereas like in Gen. 

357
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,240
Con you can go from building to 
building, 'cause it's so big, 

358
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,600
which I imagine there's some 
similarity to a UKGE. 

359
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,120
Yes, Origins is all compact, 
which is great. 

360
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600
So we'll, we'll walk around, 
hopefully we'll meet up with 

361
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,360
Shelley. 
Michiana Board Gamery, We 

362
00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,680
usually see her every year. 
We'll definitely see. 

363
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,400
Adam obsessed with board games 
will be there. 

364
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,640
Jerry from Tabletop Worldwide is
going to be there. 

365
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,120
It's going to be his first 
Origins. 

366
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040
So for all of you listening, 
you're just hearing this for the

367
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,320
first time. 
I'm going to have a chance to 

368
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080
tell everybody I will not be 
working Origins. 

369
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,360
I'm only going for the day. 
That's not better. 

370
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,440
Than Friday. 
It will be his origins got game 

371
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,320
releases I've seen. 
Remember, sometimes there are 

372
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,680
some releases. 
There's usually a few. 

373
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,360
It's really minor because they 
wait for Gen. 

374
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,120
Con, but you get a couple, you 
get a couple of them. 

375
00:20:56,120 --> 00:21:00,160
So I don't it's it's it's a much
more chill experience. 

376
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:08,000
The other thing is that it's in 
Columbus, OH and just a very 

377
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,480
short walk away from the 
Convention Center is North 

378
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,960
Market, which has lots of 
restaurants, places to eat. 

379
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080
I think it's an old train 
station or fish market or 

380
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,640
something that's been converted.
So that's really convenient. 

381
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,200
Indianapolis, for Gen. 
Con, you, you've got to do the 

382
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,160
Gen. 
Con thing or you've got to go, 

383
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,560
you got to walk aways. 
So Columbus is a little bit more

384
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,360
convenient. 
It is also Columbus. 

385
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:42,680
OH, is my second favorite city 
in the entire United States. 

386
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,040
For. 
Everything. 

387
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,840
From it's just because. 
So it's it's it's large enough. 

388
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,960
I would I would move there. 
It is large enough that there 

389
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,720
are things to do. 
There are always events. 

390
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,880
It's it's got a rich culture. 
It has amazing food. 

391
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,080
There's so many, so many high 
quality restaurants, dining. 

392
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,640
I love Columbus. 
I eat so well. 

393
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,880
There's only one other city in 
in the United States where I eat

394
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,840
better than I do in Columbus. 
And conveniently, that's my 

395
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,200
favorite city in the United 
States. 

396
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,640
So there you have it. 
I'm looking on the map. 

397
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,520
Because I'm in the West. 
I'm not. 

398
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,200
I know you don't. 
OK, You found it. 

399
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960
And do you do you drive to all 
these places? 

400
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760
Yeah. 
So what's the drive to Geekway? 

401
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,760
So, oh, an hour. 
What's a drive to Columbus, OH? 

402
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,920
Six hours. 
I do cross the time zone, so the

403
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:50,560
time changes, so it's a six hour
drive, but seven hours pass 

404
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,080
because I got you going to 
another time zone and. 

405
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,480
Then what's What's Gencom? 
Gencom's three hours You drive 

406
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,680
through Indianapolis to get to 
Columbus, so. 

407
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,000
Is that the furthest you've 
driven to to a con? 

408
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,720
Would you drive, would you? 
That feels like a long way. 

409
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,560
And do you drive on one go? 
Would you? 

410
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,680
Do you take a break? 
I'd rather I mean you. 

411
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,520
I don't think I can make it on 
one tank of gas, so I do have. 

412
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,920
To yeah, you do stop. 
And rest stop the. 

413
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,640
Rest. 
Yeah, but Oh yeah, that's the 

414
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,800
farthest I've driven for a 
convention. 

415
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240
It's a long way. 
I agree, and it's probably the 

416
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,840
furthest I'm willing to drive 
for a commit. 

417
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,040
I drove six hours for Nashville,
TN game days. 

418
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,200
You did? 
Well, let's be honest, Adam 

419
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,680
drove. 
I rode in the driver, I rode in 

420
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,520
the past. 
That's right. 

421
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Even better. 
Well, that's six hours you've 

422
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,160
got. 
You've got a lot of What do you 

423
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,680
do? 
Do you listen to podcasts or do 

424
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,440
you talk called music? 
Or do you sing in APJ style? 

425
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:59,240
So I typically what we do is so,
so Katie's very detail oriented.

426
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,840
So she's already mapped out what
vendors do we want to see, What 

427
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,320
games do we want to see, What 
games do we want to buy, What 

428
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,520
games do we want to demo, right.
And so we kind of map that out 

429
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,600
while we're on the drive. 
That is the beauty of us going 

430
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840
together to everything. 
So it's like, I mean I'm not 

431
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000
talking about like it's 
tyrannical how at 8 we're doing 

432
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,840
this and at 9:00. 
Spreadsheet. 

433
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,840
There is a spreadsheet, but 
should be like, OK, we're going 

434
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,120
to do these things and I think 
if we do these on Friday then we

435
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,000
could do these on Saturday blah 
blah blah blah, right? 

436
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,800
So, so we'll do that and then I 
will remind her we need to see 

437
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,400
Shelly and we need to see Laura 
and we need to make sure we see 

438
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,560
Adam and we got to see Jerry and
and and then the list goes on. 

439
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,000
So we both have different 
priorities, but we want to do it

440
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,600
all so. 
That sounds really good, yeah. 

441
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000
So once Orange is out of the 
way, then you've got Django 

442
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,960
then. 
We've got, yeah. 

443
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,560
So then we have July, which is 
like all work. 

444
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,280
Like I've got work conventions. 
I've got work conventions. 

445
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Where are we going this time? 
Oh yeah, we're going up to 

446
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,480
Mundelein, which is just north 
of Chicago, for a work week, a 

447
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,320
whole week work convention. 
And then there's other big 

448
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,000
things going on at work as well.
And then the very first week of 

449
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000
August 1st to the 5th is Gen. 
Con, but we're only going to be 

450
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800
there on Sunday. 
Usually do the whole thing. 

451
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,200
So what changed? 
Oh, budget, budget concerns and 

452
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,800
scheduling again. 
Two weeks in England took a took

453
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,480
a toll, I bet. 
Yeah, and and holidays, of 

454
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,880
course. 
And holidays because we took 

455
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,720
vacation time. 
So my sister-in-law lives maybe 

456
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,600
an hour South of Indianapolis, 
so we're going to go stay with 

457
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,080
them for the whole weekend 0. 
That's good. 

458
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:51,880
And then we'll, we will go up to
Gen. 

459
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Con just for Sunday. 
Sunday is probably the best day 

460
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,480
to be at Gen. 
Con. 

461
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,720
Yeah, a lot of people are kind 
of winding down. 

462
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,720
They stayed up late Saturday 
night, so the vendor Hall's not 

463
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,040
as crowded. 
Towards the end of the day, the 

464
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600
vendor hall, the vendors are 
just trying to get rid of their 

465
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,880
inventory because they don't. 
Yep. 

466
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960
They're willing to just chat 
more because they're not trying 

467
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,440
to, you know, I don't know. 
It's more casual and I'm down. 

468
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,400
I think UKGEI always like a 
Sunday to go chat with anyone 

469
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,760
because it's usually it is so 
much quieter. 

470
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,440
So much quieter. 
Yeah. 

471
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,280
I don't know who we're going to 
see and what we're going to see.

472
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600
I haven't even started thinking 
about Gen. 

473
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,960
Con at this point, so who knows?
Who knows? 

474
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,600
And when's that? 
August. 

475
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280
August, you say August, August 
1st, 1st to the 5th. 

476
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,680
Boom. 
So that's wow, that's that's 

477
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,400
what we've got going on. 
Well, I'm looking forward to 

478
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,840
UKGEA few days of gaming and a 
few days of hanging out with 

479
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,560
people. 
What about seeing all the 

480
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,800
friendly faces? 
Are you going to Essen at all? 

481
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,160
I don't think so. 
We've been talking about doing 

482
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,600
something over here with a 
group, so whether it's ES and 

483
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,960
weekends, I kind of used to want
to go to get all the games and 

484
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,200
these days I'm not so enthused. 
The games will get here and I've

485
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,440
learned that most of the games 
that I think will be really good

486
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,280
generally aren't. 
So I'm just wiser these days of 

487
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,960
like board games. 
I think I said about the Rats of

488
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Wooster earlier, I think that 
was nesting release. 

489
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,360
That's I think came out over 
here 2 weeks ago. 

490
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,040
But you know, my shelf of 
opportunity, or was it my board?

491
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Game backlog. 
My board game backlog you know 

492
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,360
has it got worse? 
No. 

493
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,600
I think it we after games day 
with Nick at board game of EST, 

494
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680
I think I might have ticked off.
We might have got, we might be 

495
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,680
less than sub 80. 
Nothing's nothing's arrived but 

496
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280
that needs playing. 
Yes. 

497
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,440
Oh, well done Gareth. 
You think things have got 

498
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,520
better? 
I've been. 

499
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,920
Too busy to buy Be too busy to 
buy board games. 

500
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,080
We're we are at 59.4% of our 
collections. 

501
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,640
Played. 
That is insane. 

502
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,120
Yeah. 
I'm trying to think what's what 

503
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,320
got off? 
Oh yeah, so another game of the 

504
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,560
incredibly long list of games 
that haven't been played. 

505
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,080
We finally played Deadwood 1876,
which is a facade, which is, you

506
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,480
know, this has been an ongoing 
joke for years between me and 

507
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Nick that we'd play them all and
for a long time they were in my 

508
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040
bag but never got played. 
But I do believe we have one 

509
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:51,720
left to do. 
So we played that, and 

510
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160
everything else was new to me. 
Oh, I talked. 

511
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,920
Snowdonia. 
I saw you posted something about

512
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,240
Snowdonia. 
Yeah, I. 

513
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840
I took, I took the guys the 
basic the basic version of that 

514
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,240
so. 
I've got a new a new strategy 

515
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
I'm going to, I'm going to share
this with you and hopefully the 

516
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,320
our listeners can benefit from 
this. 

517
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,800
I know a couple of people have 
asked me about how we manage to 

518
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,080
play every game in our 
collection or as close as 100% 

519
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000
as possible. 
So we recently had This is a 

520
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,400
Coffee Tin. 
I don't know if you can hear 

521
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,000
that. 
We can hear it. 

522
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,040
So inside I know inside this 
coffee tin, are sheets of paper 

523
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440
with the names of games printed 
on them. 

524
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,920
And so whenever Katie and I are 
like, what do we want to play? 

525
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,120
And it's like, the problem is 
it's like what do we want to 

526
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,280
play? 
And so first of all, the the the

527
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,920
first thing is what are we in 
the mood to play? 

528
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,360
The second one is what is still 
on our list to be played. 

529
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Well, we don't have that list in
front of us. 

530
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Now she and I both pick a it's 
like picking a name out of a 

531
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280
hat. 
Surely sometimes you want a 

532
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,840
short game, sometimes you want a
long game. 

533
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Isn't there? 
It's true. 

534
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,520
But so I pick AI, pick a game, 
and she picks a game. 

535
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,880
OK, so you get. 5050 So then we 
choose one of those two games. 

536
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Might might hit the mark. 
So here's the interesting thing.

537
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,000
So what if we pick two games 
neither of us want to play them?

538
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Then what? 
So, so, OK, there's two things. 

539
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,160
Why is is what I love it. 
You always got to evaluate, 

540
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160
right? 
Why don't you want to play that 

541
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160
game? 
Well, I just don't feel like 

542
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,040
playing a big scythe right now 
and I'm in the mood for 

543
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,960
something lighter. 
And that's OK, we'll put it back

544
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,080
on the hat or I don't feel like 
playing this game at all. 

545
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,880
And if we both feel that way, we
put it on the the shelf to be 

546
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,440
culled, right and get it out of 
her. 

547
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,360
It's crazy. 
I think Katie's already got 

548
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,920
three or four games on our shelf
to be sold and the used game 

549
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,240
sale was just a few weeks ago, 
so she's ready to sell. 

550
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,080
Yeah, I think we've we've been 
doing that recently where we've 

551
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,320
talked about games and I've gone
with the games that Carrie have 

552
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,040
always said she wants me to 
keep. 

553
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,240
What was it this week like Bunny
Kingdom, which Carrie loves. 

554
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,880
And I said, oh, Bunny Kingdom. 
And she was like, yeah. 

555
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,240
And I was like, oh, is that a, 
is that a no or is that a like, 

556
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040
It's dead to me. 
But she wasn't sure. 

557
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240
So we we do need to play it. 
But I was surprised because she 

558
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240
loves that. 
Game Maybe there'll be a game 

559
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160
coming out this summer to 
replace it. 

560
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Maybe like raising rabbits? 
Raise. 

561
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600
There we go. 
OK, Aaron, I love you. 

562
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320
It was a pleasure to meet you. 
And that's the last time I plug 

563
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,040
your game at this episode. 
Raising rabbits. 

564
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Raising rabbits. 
Yeah. 

565
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320
So yeah, so that I guess yeah, 
let's let's Well, if anyone's 

566
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280
going to be at those upcoming 
conventions, what did you what 

567
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320
did you select? 
PJ opened his jar of coffee, and

568
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,080
he. 
I did. 

569
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,120
I just chose Maharani Mosaic 
Palace. 

570
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,480
This is a good. 
This is a good game. 

571
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480
It's by Queen Games. 
It's a little tile placement 

572
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,440
game. 
It's it's an older game that we 

573
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,280
picked up at a used game sale. 
I love. 

574
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,240
That's the other thing too. 
I'll find the title and be like,

575
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,440
oh, and this story kind of just 
I remember when we got this. 

576
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,520
It's a good. 
Game I think a feature the end 

577
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,280
of every episode because like I 
can go into my my my app same as

578
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
you're picking hat and just say 
pick me a random game. 

579
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,920
And we can talk about it for. 
Just talk about the random game 

580
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
that pops up, because there's 
always a little story. 

581
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,440
Yeah, that idea. 
So one last thing to close out 

582
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,520
the episode. 
What does AI have for us today? 

583
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,760
AI has been really busy with 
work. 

584
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,560
We've built we've been we've 
been building some stuff that 

585
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000
even I think Microsoft, 
Microsoft said to us we are 

586
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120
bleeding edge, which I was quite
proud of. 

587
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Not me. 
I like that clever, but the guys

588
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,200
in the team are. 
I don't know what can we ask, 

589
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,640
what can we ask AI? 
What is the question? 

590
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,400
I shall ask it. 
We shall ask it. 

591
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:25,120
What are the top 3 tips for 
attending a board game 

592
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,880
convention? 
What do you what do you reckon 

593
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
it's going to say? 
I think. 

594
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,720
It's going to take good advice 
already I. 

595
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Think it's going to be. 
Go ahead, go ahead. 

596
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Plan ahead. 
Plan ahead #1. 

597
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Perfect for Katie. 
Review the convention schedule 

598
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240
in advance and prioritise the 
events, panels and games you 

599
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,200
want to attend. 1B Pre 
registration If there's popular 

600
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720
events and tournaments get in. 
That's a great tip because UKG 

601
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,280
there's loads of events, Jen. 
Carney, Ton of events. 

602
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,360
That's great. 
Map it out now in the uki Think 

603
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,440
it's the offline game I was 
going to check. 

604
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,600
I think it's the offline gamer. 
Yeah, Tod cast at Tod cast in 

605
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,760
Instagram. 
The offline gamer does a great 

606
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239
service in the UK. 
He takes UKG maps that they 

607
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,120
produce and then actually makes 
them useful by annotating and 

608
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,040
writing who's on every single 
stand versus theirs, which is 

609
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,480
just numbered. 
So wrap out Section 2, pack 

610
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,960
smart. 
I think we had this last year. 

611
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Bring a backpack, water, snacks,
phone chargers, Wear comfortable

612
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,679
shoes, Maybe ChatGPT, which is 
the one I'm using. 

613
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Other AI services are available.
Maybe they've just been and read

614
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,719
our listen to our podcasts. 
Because you know. 

615
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,080
I'm sure this is what we said 
last year. 

616
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,480
I mean, we. 
Almost word for word. 

617
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,800
This one This is interesting 
one. 

618
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719
If you're planning to play 
specific games, bring your own 

619
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,360
dice, pencils, or other gaming 
accessories. 

620
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,560
Do you do that? 
Take your own dice. 

621
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,520
You know, OK do you? 
I I bring my own Zen bins with 

622
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,160
me. 
So this is like the biggest 

623
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,480
piece of this is the biggest 
piece of advice I have for 

624
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480
anyone going to a convention is 
bring you Zen bins. 

625
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
By Zen means you mean token 
storage containers, yes? 

626
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,480
So I think that's a brand ZENI 
just have the guess because 

627
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,360
you're holding. 
Yeah, yeah I am. 

628
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,800
Anyway, these are fantastic 
because you know what's going to

629
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,880
happen is you're going to play a
game for the first time and 

630
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,840
you're going to have all these 
tokens and bits and resources 

631
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,280
and they're great for organizing
them, so. 

632
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Haven't you take? 
Lots of. 

633
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,040
We usually take three because 
the lid and the bottom. 

634
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,080
You've. 
Got two, yeah. 

635
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Yeah. 
So if you bring 3 now, you could

636
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,760
you could bring like there's a 
game trays tray that has six 

637
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,800
compartments and just bring the 
one. 

638
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,640
But it's it's it's kind of long.
It's not square light. 

639
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,080
Travel light, yeah. 
But I quite the ones. 

640
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520
The little pop up ones, the 
buttons on the corners, that 

641
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
flat, that fold flat, you know 
what I mean? 

642
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Those are really good too. 
So whatever, Whatever. 

643
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,120
Token organization, bring 
something. 

644
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Because let me tell you what, 
how many times do we pull them 

645
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,920
out of our bag? 
And they're like, that's 

646
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,840
brilliant. 
I didn't. 

647
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,480
Why didn't I think of that? 
Yeah, yeah. 

648
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Well, do it. 
This time next year when we do 

649
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,240
this AI search, you'll say your 
Zen bins or other Zen bins. 

650
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:33,920
Or. 
Section 3. 

651
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Engage in network. 
Yes, socialise. 

652
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Organ Connection is a great 
place to meet fellow 

653
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,040
enthusiasts. 
Don't be shy. 

654
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,880
Come and say hello. 
Learn this is this is your 

655
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,800
favorite. 
Take advantage of demo sessions 

656
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
and workshops and learn new 
games and strategies. 

657
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,560
And the final one, connect. 
Exchange contact information 

658
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,680
with new friends and game 
developers like UKGE and I guess

659
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,920
even Instagram. 
Yeah, like, we've met so many 

660
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:08,880
cool friends through that social
media hub that we only see at 

661
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,280
UKGE, right? 
And you know, there's a few 

662
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,040
people that say messages. 
It's just great to hang out. 

663
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,560
So to summarise, by planning 
ahead, packing smartly and 

664
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,320
engaging with the community, 
you'll be well prepared to have 

665
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,280
a fantastic time at a board game
convention. 

666
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,400
I love that. 
There we go. 

667
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,320
It's great. 
Let me. 

668
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,440
So only forgot. 
That last, that last prompt was 

669
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360
connect. 
When you when you're at a game 

670
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,080
convention and you're like, you 
know you want to, you want to 

671
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,080
let them know, you want to let 
the individual know that you've 

672
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520
got a podcast, you want to get 
them on our show, whatever. 

673
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,600
So we don't have business cards.
What do you do? 

674
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,440
What do you, how do you handle 
that? 

675
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,120
Like how do you? 
Know that people gave me 

676
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:53,880
business cards, but then I just 
say that they, you know, got a 

677
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,640
podcast as well. 
We'll check our Instagram 

678
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,760
channel. 
So I had buttons made-up, but 

679
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,760
I'm completely out. 
I had stickers. 

680
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520
I'm completely out. 
I've got five. 

681
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,920
I've got five buttons left. 
I really hate that because it's 

682
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
like I'm like, oh, I need to 
like. 

683
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,320
So I met a designer at Geek Way 
and I was like, I wish I had. 

684
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,480
I mean, she started following us
on Instagram right away and you 

685
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,800
know, we did that. 
I use. 

686
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,120
I use for work wise so I 
actually I could use this. 

687
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,000
I use the app called hi hello. 
So I have a I have my business 

688
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,080
card, I have my personal one 
which you which I'm showing PJ's

689
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,360
a picture of me in board games 
and you just you just share and 

690
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,640
then they got AQR code and they 
can scan it. 

691
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,960
Oh, that's neat. 
That's cool. 

692
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
It's really neat, yeah. 
All right. 

693
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,240
Hi. 
Hello. 

694
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,440
Cool. 
Hi Hello I'm sure there are 

695
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,360
other networking apps that are 
available too. 

696
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,480
So board games, board game 
convention season is officially 

697
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,640
upon us. 
You're all going to conventions 

698
00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:59,680
and. 
You there, Come and say hello. 

699
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:04,120
Yeah, and we'll do the 
interview. 30 seconds. 10 

700
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,000
seconds, Absolutely. 
Whatever you find comfortable. 

701
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
So for our friends at Origins 
and Jenkin, I'm definitely 

702
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,000
bringing my mics. 
We're going to do recordings, 

703
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,360
we're going to make it happen 
Geek way. 

704
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,840
I got myself distracted and I 
cannot allow that. 

705
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,320
Disappointing. 
Yeah. 

706
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Sometimes you just got to. 
Can't get stressed by it? 

707
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Yep. 
All right. 

708
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Well, thanks everyone, for 
listening. 

709
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,760
Thanks, PJ and we'll see you 
hopefully all soon. 

710
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,240
See you more than hear you. 
See you Laters. 

711
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,440
Thanks everyone for listening. 
Please subscribe and as always, 

712
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,400
we'd love to hear your thoughts 
and ideas, so make sure to leave

713
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,080
those in the comments. 
And don't forget, you can also 

714
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,320
chat with us both on Instagram 
at meeple to Meeple.

