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Welcome to Meeple to Meeple 
uniting players around the 

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world. 
A 30 minute exploration of TJ 

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and Gareth's four-game 
experiences. 

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From. 
Across both sides of the 

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Atlantic, each episode they 
share their thoughts and 

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opinions on the World of War 
games, including their favorite 

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themes, games, hot topics, and 
much, much more. 

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Hey guys, and welcome to Episode
85, an Origins Game Fair 

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preview. 
As always, I'm PJ. 

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Today, as of this recording, is 
Father's Day, so Gareth's with 

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his family and after asking a 
few folks to join me in this 

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conversation, it's Father's Day.
So you're going to learn. 

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Something about me, if you 
weren't already aware, is that I

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don't have any children, 
therefore I'm not a father. 

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My father is no longer with us. 
He died a few years ago. 

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So I'm on my own today covering 
double duty for myself and 

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Gareth, but we want to wish all 
of our fathers in the board 

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gaming community a happy 
Father's Day as it's both 

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Father's Day here in the United 
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So they lined up calendrically 
and perfectly. 

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So anyway, this is this is 
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This I'm envisioning my audience
today as most of you who will be

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on the road driving to Columbus,
OH for Origins game Fair, which 

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is what we're going to talk 
about today, which is our 

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intended topic for this episode 
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So some of the things that we're
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there this Friday, should be 
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badge and it'll just be my wife 
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Origins. 
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the vendor hall. 
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I think at 2:00 in the 
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The only actual event we've 
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learn to play Daba Walla by 
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And the exciting thing is it'll 
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So if we really enjoy the game 
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then we can purchase it. 
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really like about board game 
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you an opportunity to play a 
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enjoy it, you could purchase it.
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when you are introduced to a 
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know it hits thematically for 
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mechanics, or you can envision 
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wanting to play it and then it's
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It'll, you know, it's only 
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they're sold out or, you know, 
and these things happen and 

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that's fine. 
But yeah, so we're looking 

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forward to that. 
I am looking forward to seeing 

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all of those are going to be 
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I'll catch up with Danielle 
Reynolds, the designer of her 

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story and her newest game, 
Caution Signs. 

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That'll be released at Origins. 
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Games Expo. 
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A couple of other folks that I'm
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in the board gaming community is
Adam, our good friend Adam 

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Tabletop vibes. 
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So that'll be fun. 
Jerry, Jerry, Mr. Tabletop 

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Worldwide himself, he'll be 
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game fair ever. 
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Con a few years ago and then we 
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Game Days and he and Adam were 
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Tennessee Game Days episode. 
So make sure to go back and 

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listen to that one before you go
to Origins, before you meet them

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both if you haven't met them 
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Also, our friend Kristen Mott 
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going to be there. 
She's got a new game that'll be 

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coming out soon in Sectarium. 
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getting an opportunity to play 
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That'll be fun. 
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Yeah. 
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there. 
Looking forward to seeing all of

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you just found out that. 
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So that'll be exciting. 
There's a lot of folks. 

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It's going to be good. 
It'll be great. 

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Gabe will be there from games 
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He'll be at Origins. 
He's got a special promotional. 

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He's doing so that'll be fine. 
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Con will be his first Gen. 
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One of the things I'd like to 
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preparing for a gaming 
convention and the experience as

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a whole. 
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Gareth talking to them at UK 
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America who were asking about, 
hey, it's my first time going to

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games and Expo, Origins, Gen. 
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the West, in Saint Louis, it's 
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convention. 
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What should I do? 
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do, honestly, up front, I always
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of our show. 
If you remember, we talked about

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Gareth and I introduced 
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show, and we talked about 
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a whole. 
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water and whatnot, how much to 
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sure you take a shower, use 
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the, you know, the whole litany 
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recently is the experience as a 
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I realize that no matter how I 
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while I can describe it as 
accurately as possible, and you 

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will get there and you'll be 
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say to expect this and this and 
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Nothing can prepare you for the 
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Shock is not the right word. 
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that one gets when they get to 
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vendor hall for the first time. 
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looks like. 
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hall looks like. 
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But never fails, it's 
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You're for your first time. 
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gives me a little bit of a 
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majority of the members of our 
community feel pressured by no 

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one in particular. 
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see everything and do everything
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mobilizing the, that feeling of 
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The fear of missing out. 
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general, I think we, we as a 
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created an atmosphere that lends
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to do it all. 
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And the reality is you don't. 
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prepared to be overwhelmed and 
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You're going to have fun if you 
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So being flexible is very 
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important to be flexible with 
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so that you can enjoy it. 
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We would rather you just enjoy 
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experience with whatever it is 
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out of that rather than focusing
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on. 
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just, we can't do it all right. 
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company included on occasion. 
Make that mistake, you get worn 

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out. 
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remember last week's episode, 
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at the UK Games Expo and tried 
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It's just not good for your 
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know, your, your fatigue will 
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It's not a good thing, but there
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So yeah, you're going to see 
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great. 
I'm going to see everyone else. 

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I can't wait. 
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love about Origins Game Fair, 
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to the most is that it has 
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But it's all condensed, right? 
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of subdivided between Open 
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which is a model that if I had 
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follow Open Gaming and the board
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together. 
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I really love it, right? 
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them yourself, or you can check 
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play it from their collection 
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gaming. 
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you can step away, go to an 
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then go back to the open gaming 
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And but it's all together. 
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building to building. 
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pedestrian bridge. 
You don't have to walk outside 

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in the 90° heat. 
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Gen. 
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man, not looking forward to 
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But you don't have to do that. 
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Origins, and that's what I look 
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So I'll get to see the vendors. 
I'll get to see my friends. 

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I'll get to play some games. 
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So we've got Dabba Walla from 
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this summer. 
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playing that. 
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going to buy it. 
There's no doubt. 

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Looking forward to playing in 
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That should be a lot of fun. 
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content creators, hopefully 
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access on Thursday, Jerry from 
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chat group on Instagram and he 
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So I hope our content creators 
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Are you getting a little early 
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An hour earlier and so you get 
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vendors and the publishers ahead
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content, which I think is 
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I really like that. 
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last week is that UK Games Expo 
that Thursday if you have a 

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press pass and it seems like 
they're really open about who 

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bit more strict rules in some of
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town, here in the United States.
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And there's so many conventions 
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It's gonna be great. 
It's gonna be awesome. 

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So you can get that content in, 
get that out of the way early in

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the morning. 
That way you can spend time with

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your friends and play some games
and take a few pictures for more

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content later. 
Definitely want to manage that. 

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And all the while you're doing 
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gaming, scheduling events, 
creating content, doing 

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interviews, whatever you're up 
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that you drink enough water. 
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That is so important. 
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from our friend Craig, get into 
games, make sure you have a good

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pair of shoes because he 
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soles of his shoes at the Expo 
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He even posted some pictures of 
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Just the sole of his shoes were 
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So make sure you've got good 
shoes, make sure you've got 

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water handy, staying hydrated 
and staying rested and you will 

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have a great time, no doubt 
about it. 

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So, yeah, so we're really 
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I'm sorry that you had to listen
to me. 

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Proud Alone Alone. 
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Maple solo episode here, but 
Origins games game fair. 

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Columbus, OH. 
This Thursday is the first day 

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again. 
I will be there on Friday. 

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We're staying all day. 
We've got the one event we're 

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not staying overnight, so make 
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Make sure you look for me at 
Origins. 

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I've got me brand new Maple to 
Maple stickers that I'll be 

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giving away. 
Come find me. 

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Let's take a selfie together. 
I'm really bad at that. 

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I always forget to take pictures
with folks. 

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I'm happy to see you. 
And then I spent all my time 

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visiting with you and playing 
games and I forget to take a 

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picture and then it's over. 
I'm like, man, I wish I had a 

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picture with so and so. 
So if you see me, make sure that

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we take a picture together and 
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sticker before we change our 
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We've got some big things coming
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I'd like to say thank you to 
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we hit, we just hit 1000 
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I know that's not a big deal, 
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show 1000 of you following us on
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for giveaways. 
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been really hectic lately, so be
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end of the year, giveaways a new
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changes coming to the show. 
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I will also. 
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You don't want to do me a favor 
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for a game called Slide. 
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last week's episode and 
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everyone at the UK Games Expo 
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Apparently it's two to six 
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not buying a copy. 
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copyright? 
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played it but no one had a copy.
Gareth said he wished he would 

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have bought a copy and Craig 
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bought a copy. 
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know that it's the one game they
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So I'm looking for this game. 
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at Oregon's Games Fair and you 
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the Friday, please let me know 
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really looking to grab. 
I've got, I think I've got some 

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non gamers at a work conference 
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perfect addition to the games 
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introduce to people. 
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I don't remember. 
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week's episode. 
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more research, but again, I woke
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message from Gary saying it's 
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family, can you record? 
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to a few people to see if they'd
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about Origins. 
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Father's Day for everyone and 
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we're looking for, come get a 
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Friday at Origins, be there. 
It's going to be exciting. 

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There is construction around the
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maybe a block or two off of the 
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the North Market, which is 
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to eat. 
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amazing N market. 
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some construction in the parking
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some. 
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our good friend Laura, obsessed 
with board games, She'll be 

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working the All Play booth along
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We love her. 
She's a good friend of the show.

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So be sure to go to All Play and
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Also, as Kadelia, I'm looking 
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again, tabletop, worldwide 
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They'll be there. 
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There's a whole group of folks 
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So find your friends, play some 
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if you don't see everything. 
It's going to be great. 

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It's going to be awesome. 
It's going to be fantastic. 

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For those of you staying for the
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Here's my FOMO because I'm only 
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day, but you know, you do. 
We do what we can. 

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So really looking forward to 
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I want to extend my gratitude to
all of our followers on 

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Instagram one more time. 
I'd also like to say that Gareth

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and I are grateful to all of you
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tuning in each week. 
I'm particularly grateful to you

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all for having to listen to me, 
right. 

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I know Gareth's so busy and I 
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somebody to fill in, and I've 
been pretty grateful. 

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You've been pretty gracious and 
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that. 
But we got big things coming 

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down the line. 
There's going to be some 

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interesting things happening 
this summer because our 

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schedules are getting busy. 
So we're trying to stay 

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consistent and dropping episodes
so that you have something to 

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look forward to and to listen 
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So thanks again, everybody. 
I can't wait to get to Origins. 

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I can't wait to see you. 
It should be a lot of fun. 

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So hey, guys, don't forget to 
follow us on Instagram at Meeble

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to meeple. 
You can also find me at the 

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under score Cajun under score 
Gamer and at board game Meeple 

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on Instagram for Gareth, right? 
Also want to quickly remind you 

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about going to Dragon Pawn 
Productions DDP Dragon Dawn 

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productions, ddpgames.com. 
Ren Multi Mackey interviewed him

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last week was a bonus episode. 
There's a discount code Meeple 

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2, Meeple the number 2, all one 
word, 10% off anything you 

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purchase there. 
He sent us a couple of other 

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games. 
We played a really cool 

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cooperative 2 player game that 
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We do have a game that requires 
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players and we haven't had a 
chance to hit that to the table 

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yet, but that's that's coming 
out his game for done. 

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We'll be hitting Kickstarter in 
July, so look forward to that as

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well. 
We do have a couple of designers

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that we'll be interviewing here 
pretty soon over the summer, so 

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be on the lookout for that. 
Again, Origins. 

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Come see me take a picture. 
Let's get a sticker. 

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Let's make friendships, let's 
follow each other. 

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It's going to be awesome 
supporting one another at 

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Origins Game Fair. 
Bye guys, thanks everyone for 

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listening. 
Please subscribe and as always, 

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we'd love to hear your thoughts 
and ideas, so make sure to leave

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those in the comments and don't 
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