1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Welcome to Meeple to Meeple uniting players from around the 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,240 world, a 30 minute exploration of PJ and Galas ball game 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,920 experiences from across both sides of the Atlantic. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Each episode they share their thoughts and opinions on the 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,840 world of board games, including their favorite themes, games, 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,720 hot topics and much much more. Are you guys ready for more? 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,560 We are back for our Gen. Con story Part 2. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,280 The Game Designers community as always on PJ, I'm Gareth and 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,960 we're gonna continue to talk about Gen. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Con. Gareth, how are you man? 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,520 I'm good. I loved last week's episode so 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,560 I'm. I haven't listened to all these 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,880 clips fully. So I'm looking forward to 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,160 hearing from more of your amazing acquisition of audio 15 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:51,880 sound clips from members of this time of the designer community. 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,970 So I think the description you hear about Jen about Gencon from 17 00:00:57,970 --> 00:01:02,170 the community overall is it is how vast Gencon is. 18 00:01:02,330 --> 00:01:07,250 It's it's so big, not just the vendor hall, the whole event 19 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:11,570 taking up hotels and the Lucas Oil Stadium and it's just so big 20 00:01:11,570 --> 00:01:16,210 and hard to describe. So we, it's so vast that we had 21 00:01:16,210 --> 00:01:21,050 to do 3 episodes, right? And we're only on Part 2. 22 00:01:21,650 --> 00:01:23,330 There's a lot of consent. Otherwise it would be here for 23 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:25,890 three hours at a time. Oh yeah, we've got to keep these 24 00:01:25,890 --> 00:01:27,290 short and sweet. We're supposed to be 30 minute 25 00:01:27,290 --> 00:01:29,650 episodes and last week. And we always do a special with 26 00:01:29,650 --> 00:01:30,890 the cons. So we do. 27 00:01:31,810 --> 00:01:35,130 So shall we? So, yeah, so. 28 00:01:35,570 --> 00:01:38,130 So these guys are these people you've met. 29 00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:39,650 Okay. Yes. 30 00:01:39,730 --> 00:01:43,130 So last week was members of the Instagram community. 31 00:01:43,930 --> 00:01:47,850 So this week these are either game publishers or game 32 00:01:47,850 --> 00:01:52,560 designers or they were exhibitors at the hall. 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,800 I met them all in one capacity or another. 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Some of the some of those people you're going to hear from today. 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:07,000 We met in the first exposure play test hall where my wife and 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,320 I were play testing. And so we actually got to play 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,160 test their game and I was like hey, would you be willing to do 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 a sound bite so we could talk about your game on our show. 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,470 And they were kind enough to respond. 40 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:19,310 So yeah there's some really good games. 41 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:22,670 So I hope you got your your pen ran a pen. 42 00:02:22,950 --> 00:02:25,590 Good. My I have my iPad ready to 43 00:02:25,590 --> 00:02:29,310 Google some of these games to see whether I add them to my 44 00:02:29,310 --> 00:02:30,190 wish list. Some of these games are 45 00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:33,030 prototypes. So coming to crowdfunding. 46 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:34,270 Yes. And I will. 47 00:02:34,590 --> 00:02:37,310 I'll let you know that we came through the course of the 48 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:38,750 episode. Some of the some of the games 49 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:41,510 are already out and you can purchase them and I'll try to 50 00:02:41,510 --> 00:02:44,890 make that distinction from segment to segment. 51 00:02:44,890 --> 00:02:45,770 So, OK. Yeah. 52 00:02:45,850 --> 00:02:47,970 Well, I think so First one up I have Caleb. 53 00:02:48,370 --> 00:02:50,330 Yes. Hey, this is Caleb from 54 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:53,690 Barreledge Games. We are excited to have now Stool 55 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:57,090 Pigeon which is a pigeon mafia family where you take over the 56 00:02:57,090 --> 00:02:59,850 head of a pigeon mafia family in which you are trying to 57 00:02:59,850 --> 00:03:04,290 eliminate or lower the number of witnesses in your crime scene. 58 00:03:04,570 --> 00:03:07,010 In order to do that, you have some of your pigeon pals that 59 00:03:07,010 --> 00:03:09,330 are there to help, maybe peek at other people's cards or even 60 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:11,650 switch cards with each other. Tons of fun. 61 00:03:12,210 --> 00:03:14,090 There's even a rat in there. Sneaky rat. 62 00:03:14,090 --> 00:03:15,850 You do not want him. And then a meatball. 63 00:03:15,850 --> 00:03:17,850 Only one in the deck, but it's worth 0 points. 64 00:03:18,130 --> 00:03:21,210 So the goal is you want to have the lowest score before anyone 65 00:03:21,210 --> 00:03:24,530 at the table knocks on the table inviting in the foul feds and 66 00:03:24,530 --> 00:03:26,290 then whoever has the lowest score wins. 67 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:29,890 Game plays out super fast. Each game takes only about 7 68 00:03:29,890 --> 00:03:31,450 minutes. That's the game that you play 69 00:03:31,450 --> 00:03:34,450 over and over and over. We absolutely love it and we've 70 00:03:34,450 --> 00:03:36,010 had a ton of fun getting it ready. 71 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:40,540 It is for presale on our website nowbarrelagegames.com and you 72 00:03:40,540 --> 00:03:44,180 can even shortly it'll be on Amazon but stool pigeon be on 73 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:46,140 the lookout for it and some of the other games we have coming 74 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:47,620 out soon. Thank you so much. 75 00:03:48,980 --> 00:03:51,060 So do you get to play that game? I did. 76 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:55,820 I and we bought a copy. So Barrel Aged Games, for those 77 00:03:55,820 --> 00:03:58,700 of you who know who don't know, they were the publishers of 78 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:03,140 Moonshine Empire and last year Fortify the Water Balloon 79 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:06,120 throwing game. So they're pushing Stool Pigeon 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,760 this year and they had some advanced copies to sell at 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Gencon. And as you heard in the clip, 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,040 they'll be on Amazon. It's available for preorder now. 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,480 It is incredible. It is just so you get the four 84 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,120 cards in front of you if you look at the two closest to you. 85 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,120 So you know those numbers and then you draw a card and you 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,760 replace it and you just it's a lot of fun. 87 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,590 It requires a little bit of memory, right? 88 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:33,270 Because you're going to remember what you have and you don't know 89 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:36,990 all the cards that are in front of you, and so you want the sum 90 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:42,190 of those cards at the end to be lower than everyone else's. 91 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:45,870 Lower. And the way to end the game, the 92 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:50,590 way to trigger the final round, is just to knock on the table. 93 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:55,190 That's it easy. When when a player thinks that 94 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,390 their sum is lower than everyone else's, you knock on the table 95 00:04:58,390 --> 00:05:02,150 to call the feds and then you go one round and we flip all the 96 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:06,230 cards and who's ever got the smallest sum in terms of 97 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:08,670 witnesses wins a game. That's it. 98 00:05:09,150 --> 00:05:11,990 How many players does it play to two to six? 99 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:14,870 Have you played in two player? We played it at two. 100 00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:17,510 We played it. Yeah, it's really good. 101 00:05:17,910 --> 00:05:20,590 We played it at 3:00, which was entertaining. 102 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:23,470 We played it at 4:00, which was really good. 103 00:05:23,750 --> 00:05:25,510 Then we played it at 5:00 and 6:00. 104 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:28,710 So it's it's scales beautifully because. 105 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:31,020 Yeah. OK. 106 00:05:31,020 --> 00:05:33,460 It's it's worthy. So pay attention to stool. 107 00:05:34,940 --> 00:05:38,900 Yes. Also the the designer is Nate 108 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:42,540 Miller. I did not meet Nate at Gencon 109 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:46,460 but after Gencon I started sharing posts about this game. 110 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:49,580 He reached out to me on Instagram and he's like dude 111 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:53,100 thanks for the you know thanks for the the product you know I'm 112 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:55,620 like cool. Yeah that's that's kind of cool. 113 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:57,580 Sounds like a lot of fun. Sounds like a lot of fun. 114 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:01,510 So, pigeon up next, we've got Samuel. 115 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:05,030 Samuel Yeah. I'm Sam Barmettler with Around 116 00:06:05,030 --> 00:06:07,950 the Stump Games, LLC, the publisher behind Outrun the 117 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,350 Bear. Outrun the Bear is a survival 118 00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:13,390 racing game for two to six players where the goal is to not 119 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:16,150 be eaten by this giant, hungry bear that's chasing you down the 120 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:18,110 board. You can do that in one of two 121 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:19,910 ways. Make the safety of your car in 122 00:06:19,910 --> 00:06:23,030 the parking lot or the bear happens to have an appetite only 123 00:06:23,030 --> 00:06:25,390 for all of your friends and family, so if you're the last 124 00:06:25,390 --> 00:06:27,950 one standing, it's satisfied and lets you go. 125 00:06:28,810 --> 00:06:31,290 The game's designed with an easy to get into hand management 126 00:06:31,290 --> 00:06:34,090 system that allows for new players and kids to be very 127 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:36,890 comfortable with it. But still with the way the cards 128 00:06:36,890 --> 00:06:40,450 all play out and the changing of the board state leaves a nice 129 00:06:40,450 --> 00:06:42,730 crunchy experience for more experienced gamers. 130 00:06:43,210 --> 00:06:46,090 My favorite experience during all of Gen. 131 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:49,370 Con was seeing a couple young brothers desperately trying to 132 00:06:49,370 --> 00:06:52,410 get each other eaten by the bear while all the adults at the 133 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:55,570 table were doing everything in their power to try to save them. 134 00:06:57,690 --> 00:07:03,190 I've never outrun the bear. Neither have I I haven't. 135 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:03,830 Yeah. I felt better. 136 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:04,790 No. No. 137 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:07,230 Yeah. So this is an interesting game 138 00:07:07,230 --> 00:07:09,430 because you and I both have played it. 139 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:11,390 Not together, but we've played this game. 140 00:07:12,310 --> 00:07:16,150 So we play tested this game last year, I'm gonna be saying. 141 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:18,510 Yeah. And that's how we got our name 142 00:07:18,510 --> 00:07:21,070 in the rule book as play testers. 143 00:07:21,590 --> 00:07:26,610 So Sam was one of the first people that was on our list to 144 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:28,770 go see. We went to see him and say hi, 145 00:07:30,170 --> 00:07:31,930 got him to autograph my rule book. 146 00:07:32,570 --> 00:07:34,650 I was the first autograph he's ever given. 147 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:38,450 So thank you, Sam. He didn't know what he was 148 00:07:38,450 --> 00:07:39,650 doing. He had a pen for it. 149 00:07:39,650 --> 00:07:40,930 He's like, I guess I'm going to do this. 150 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:42,970 And I I think I message him later. 151 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:46,290 By the end of Gencon is like, I bet you signed so many that you 152 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:47,770 probably wish you could redo mine. 153 00:07:49,790 --> 00:07:53,390 We're going to try to get Sam on because this game just recently 154 00:07:53,750 --> 00:07:56,030 was fulfilled through Kickstarter in the summer. 155 00:07:56,030 --> 00:07:59,390 He was supposed to be one of our guests and our schedules were 156 00:08:00,070 --> 00:08:01,310 gonna work there. We're gonna go work out. 157 00:08:01,310 --> 00:08:03,510 So Samuel be on look to talk about our on the bear. 158 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:05,150 This is fun. So what are your thoughts of the 159 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:07,430 game How'd you like it? Yeah, we've played it a couple 160 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:11,390 of times. The first group I think 161 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:14,750 everyone. I don't think anyone survived. 162 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:17,430 I think we're trying to get head around the mechanics of the 163 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:20,990 card, card discarding and whether because it's quite mean 164 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:24,030 in, I mean quite mean across the whole game. 165 00:08:25,550 --> 00:08:28,070 So I don't know whether we're trying to work as a team or 166 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:30,550 whether we're trying to work just to survive. 167 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:33,030 But it seemed to be just people ganging up in each other. 168 00:08:34,030 --> 00:08:37,030 And then we played it again with the work group who enjoyed it a 169 00:08:37,030 --> 00:08:41,309 lot more. So I think, I think I think it 170 00:08:41,309 --> 00:08:42,590 depends. Yeah. 171 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:47,260 Do you play it aggressively or do you play it to try and get 172 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:51,700 somebody to survive? So I played it both ways. 173 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:55,100 The first time I played it was like, OK, we all need to 174 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,780 survive, right? And if somebody gets eaten, 175 00:08:57,780 --> 00:08:58,940 well, we can't do anything about it. 176 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:01,020 But let's try to get everyone to survive. 177 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:07,460 And I've also played it mean. So whatever it takes, whatever 178 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:10,340 it takes, it doesn't work. I never outrun the bear. 179 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,560 What what I do really like is the way that the the play board 180 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:19,600 is a long, straight boards and then the bear just fits neatly 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 over the board, just slides along. 182 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,880 There's always this menacing presence of this angry bear that 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,240 is the game pieces. The game pieces are acrylic, so 184 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,480 they're really, it's really nice. 185 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,240 It's a really nice game. OK, And that's that was 186 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 available. So I picked up at UK Games Expo 187 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,880 because I think it has just been fulfilled. 188 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,600 So we got it from the Kickstarter fulfillment team for 189 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,000 whoever they used and we backed it. 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,480 We backed it on Kickstarter when we got home from Gen. 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,680 Con last year because we play tested and we're like, this is 192 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:57,400 really fun, let's do it. So, so we did. 193 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,880 So we're gonna see a Kickstarter come through and deliver as 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,120 well. So we've got Liam Kenny up next. 195 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:09,860 Hi everyone, we're Party Tales, Abli and I'm Kenny. 196 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:12,500 Our new game, Time Lancers is a time travel themed set 197 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:14,420 collection game. Players will move around the 198 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:17,300 city of the future collecting resources and then go back in 199 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:20,020 time to revise historical events that complete their factions 200 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:22,220 objectives. It'll be on Kickstarter later 201 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:24,660 this year, and you can find out more and sign up for our e-mail 202 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:27,790 list at time lancers.com. Our favorite moments from this 203 00:10:27,790 --> 00:10:29,510 year's Gen. Con were being able to demo 204 00:10:29,510 --> 00:10:32,030 games for the designers, especially David Smith, who 205 00:10:32,030 --> 00:10:34,590 showed us around Junk Drawer, and Andy Kim, who helped us 206 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:36,670 clean up some animals with his game The Spill. 207 00:10:36,830 --> 00:10:38,830 We'd have to say that's one of our favorite things about Gen. 208 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:40,910 Con every year. It's making those connections 209 00:10:40,910 --> 00:10:43,190 with all the amazing people in the board gaming community 210 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:46,630 wonderful. Tell me more like I. 211 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:50,550 So first of all, I love these guys because they shared with 212 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:52,750 us. They played somebody else's 213 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:55,230 game. Like you know that's that's 214 00:10:55,230 --> 00:10:58,710 great that when I asked them to talk about their game and their 215 00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:01,150 favorite moment was about playing someone else's game. 216 00:11:01,150 --> 00:11:06,950 So that was really cool. So my wife play tested again. 217 00:11:06,950 --> 00:11:09,350 We're back in the first Exposure play test. 218 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:13,670 All she play tested time Lancers last year and it went to 219 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:18,610 Kickstarter and we backed it because she enjoyed it and I 220 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:21,530 think they had some problems and they didn't hit, they didn't hit 221 00:11:21,530 --> 00:11:24,930 their goals or it was something to do with the European market. 222 00:11:24,930 --> 00:11:27,690 I don't, I don't remember the whole story but it was something 223 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:29,570 like that so so they pulled it down. 224 00:11:29,570 --> 00:11:32,170 They decided to play tested some more so they came back this 225 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:35,010 year. So both Katie and I play tested 226 00:11:35,010 --> 00:11:38,250 it this year and it's interesting. 227 00:11:38,410 --> 00:11:42,690 It's really chunky because of this time travel, because you're 228 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:45,250 time traveling and you're altering history. 229 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:50,430 So you could do something. And then if I do, if I go and 230 00:11:50,430 --> 00:11:56,790 change an event, say in 1503, every event after 1503 changes, 231 00:11:56,790 --> 00:12:00,670 including ones that you've already changed, say 1655. 232 00:12:00,790 --> 00:12:02,230 So it's already on your player. Matt. 233 00:12:02,230 --> 00:12:05,590 You have to flip it over because of what I've done, because 234 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:07,990 you've altered and you're treated. 235 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:13,430 Yeah, it sounds it's it was really challenging for me to 236 00:12:13,470 --> 00:12:18,190 wrap my brain around. I did not perform well because 237 00:12:18,390 --> 00:12:22,590 time travel is a little wonky for me, but my wife loves the 238 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:24,830 game. So like, you heard it's going to 239 00:12:24,830 --> 00:12:28,030 come to Kickstarter. We got a date for that. 240 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:31,630 I want, I think he said September. 241 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:34,150 But I'm going to have to double check that. 242 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:37,630 But anyway, go to timelancers.com or check out 243 00:12:37,630 --> 00:12:42,630 Party Tales on Instagram and they'll keep you up to date. 244 00:12:42,630 --> 00:12:45,270 It's a pretty cool game, definitely an interesting 245 00:12:45,270 --> 00:12:47,470 mechanic. A little different from other 246 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:50,310 time traveling games I've seen. So yeah, if you go and pull Game 247 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:54,430 Geek into the general forums, there's a link to the pre launch 248 00:12:54,430 --> 00:12:56,870 page. Loads of contents gone live as 249 00:12:56,870 --> 00:13:00,030 well in terms of videos. And there's a tabletop simulator 250 00:13:00,070 --> 00:13:02,230 if you want to check it out. Yes, check it out. 251 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:05,670 Sounds really good, right? Next up we have Heather. 252 00:13:08,070 --> 00:13:10,390 Hello, my name is Heather Dixon and I'm the designer of 253 00:13:10,430 --> 00:13:14,180 Apistocracy. In Aristocracy, it's 1851 London 254 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:16,140 and you're new to town. At the behest of your titled 255 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:19,100 host, That host uses their influence to launch you into the 256 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:21,980 events of the season so that you may gain the most Victoria 257 00:13:21,980 --> 00:13:24,140 points and become the season's favorite. 258 00:13:24,580 --> 00:13:27,380 One of the unusual things about it is it is a worker placement 259 00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:31,340 game, but it ends with a trick taking game based on Wist. 260 00:13:31,660 --> 00:13:33,260 So during the course of the season, you're going to be 261 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:36,140 curating ahead of cards that you use to open the various doors, 262 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:39,900 and you'll use that same hand in the end for the final Wist game. 263 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:41,780 I really love Gen. Con. 264 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:44,540 This was my second Gen. Con and it was my second time 265 00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:47,580 and 1st Exposure played us all. One of my favorite things is 266 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:51,620 seeing familiar faces, so I was really happy to see PJ and Katie 267 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:54,020 and a number of others. It's also really special when 268 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:56,460 people come back a second year to play Test by Game. 269 00:13:57,220 --> 00:13:59,820 It's super valuable when they see it after so many iterations 270 00:13:59,820 --> 00:14:02,780 and can give me their feedback and it's always just good to see 271 00:14:02,780 --> 00:14:05,380 them as well. I am so looking forward to Jen 272 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:09,780 Con again next year. I just looked it up on 273 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:12,650 Instagram. Yes, love the artwork. 274 00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:15,170 I'm loving the theme. Yes, you are. 275 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:19,890 Did you Did you play? So Katie didn't. 276 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:23,250 But I play tested it at First Exposure last year. 277 00:14:23,570 --> 00:14:28,570 Oh, and then I reached out to see who was going to be a geek 278 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:34,250 way and Heather was there and she brought Apistocracy and 279 00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:38,870 Katie and I got to play test it at Geek Way and I. 280 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:41,950 So I got to see she'd made a lot of changes subsequently. 281 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:44,910 We gave her a lot of input and then we didn't play test it this 282 00:14:44,910 --> 00:14:47,550 year, but she was back again. So she's working it out. 283 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:52,590 This game is it is getting fine-tuned When she launches on 284 00:14:52,590 --> 00:14:56,230 Kickstarter or hits retail, whatever that happens. 285 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:59,630 Look out for this game Apistocracy. 286 00:15:00,230 --> 00:15:03,310 It is so good. It is so good. 287 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:06,060 Yeah. I don't know what else to say 288 00:15:06,060 --> 00:15:07,340 because she described it beautifully. 289 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:09,500 I mean, I think she explained it well, but it was great to see 290 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:12,620 her and Heather's so cool. She's just so welcoming and 291 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:17,460 inviting and just open the input and to really see this game grow 292 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:21,180 and change as she fine tunes it has. 293 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:26,020 It has a bit of obsession. Yes, vibes to it in terms of the 294 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:28,700 so the rule books up on the website. 295 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:34,470 So go and check out the website or Heather Dixon's Instagram 296 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:36,990 account. And the beauty is we've we've 297 00:15:36,990 --> 00:15:39,590 squeezed obsession into this episode. 298 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:41,670 How you like that? Yeah, it's been a few weeks as 299 00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:42,550 well. Yeah. 300 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:46,390 So we're obsession is we're running a house in Derbyshire, 301 00:15:46,950 --> 00:15:49,430 in Apistocracy. You're trying. 302 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:53,510 You're not, you're not landed, right, You're you're trying to 303 00:15:53,510 --> 00:15:57,510 make a name for yourself and find a spouse during the season. 304 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,190 So yeah, it's cool. Check it out. 305 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:05,460 I am That one is going to be saved. 306 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:10,740 Right up next is Nate. Hi, my name is Nate Linhart. 307 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:13,420 I'm the designer of Tenpenny Parks published by Thunder Works 308 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:15,620 Games. Tenpenny Parks is about building 309 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:18,300 your own epic amusement park and trying to bring in the most 310 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:22,380 visiting people by games, and it is a worker placement tile 311 00:16:22,380 --> 00:16:24,020 placement game. Players are going to start with 312 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:26,620 their own property board that you're building up, and you're 313 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:28,700 going to finish building your own unique theme park from 314 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:31,370 everyone else by games and. As I said, it's work 315 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:35,090 replacements and at the heart of the game is building rides and 316 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:38,210 each of the attractions are denoted by different polyaminal 317 00:16:38,210 --> 00:16:41,010 shaped tiles you have to fit. And the twist of this game is 318 00:16:41,010 --> 00:16:43,930 the tile, place and rolls tiles actually can't touch in this 319 00:16:43,930 --> 00:16:45,410 game. They could touch corner to 320 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:47,250 corner but they can't touch adjacently. 321 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:49,850 You need room for people to be able to move around and walk 322 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:52,190 around your park. So what it does is it creates a 323 00:16:52,190 --> 00:16:56,430 very unique strategic tile placement experience that most 324 00:16:56,430 --> 00:16:59,590 are going to be used to. It's got amazing artwork by 325 00:16:59,590 --> 00:17:03,270 Vincent de Trait and it's got amazing production value by 326 00:17:03,270 --> 00:17:05,790 Thunderworks games such as a 3D carousel. 327 00:17:05,790 --> 00:17:08,670 You actually spin throughout the game to manipulate the market 328 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:11,420 prices of rides. This was my sixth Gen. 329 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:13,940 Con. It was another great year. 330 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:16,180 It's so fun. One of my favorite parts is 331 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:19,460 meeting so many new people, such as PJ. 332 00:17:19,460 --> 00:17:21,819 Everyone is so kind and so welcoming. 333 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:24,260 And then one of my other favorite moments of this year 334 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:26,700 specifically was trying Pinball Alley. 335 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:30,300 I've actually never played pinball really before and I had 336 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,300 a lot of fun doing so and I think I have pinball fever now. 337 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:36,980 I have made a side note, Pinball Alley. 338 00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:40,530 That sounds amazing, but 10 penny bucks? 339 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:42,930 I have played this game I've had the pleasure of. 340 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:46,410 Nick from Ball Game Review UK told me this, and I had a lot of 341 00:17:46,410 --> 00:17:50,130 fun. If you assumed you played 342 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:53,330 Jencon, I did. That's how I'd met Nate. 343 00:17:54,650 --> 00:17:58,130 So this was an actual you've heard me talk about events at 344 00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:00,490 Gencon. This was a ticketed event that 345 00:18:00,490 --> 00:18:03,690 we signed up for. It was an opportunity to play 346 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:06,450 Tenpenny Parks with the designer Nate Lynnhart. 347 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:09,180 And we're like, we really can't can't pass it up. 348 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:11,780 Katie was really interested in the game. 349 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:16,420 Our good friend Nick had been talking about it since he picked 350 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:19,580 it up about a year ago. And I was like, we need to check 351 00:18:19,580 --> 00:18:21,780 it out and I get to meet Nate is really cool. 352 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:25,740 Did learn. I don't know if this is unique 353 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:28,980 or not but apparently when you play tenpenny park with the 354 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:34,700 designer and you go to spin the carousel you have to hum a song 355 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:40,600 while you spin the carousel to to make new role we should add 356 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,480 it in and and that is from Nate the designer. 357 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,840 So if Nick is listening or when you see him let him know you got 358 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,680 a hum a song when you turn the carousel. 359 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,920 That game was awesome. I do like the whole polynomially 360 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,720 try and make them fit. You got the trees that are in 361 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,880 the way. Yes. 362 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,480 I don't think I did very well, if I remember rightly, because 363 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,680 there's quite a few moving parts. 364 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,360 Yeah, that I didn't remember. It's pretty tight because the 365 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,320 market adjust stuff. Yes. 366 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 But you had a great time. There's a really good game. 367 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,640 And then trying to keep your trees because you get penalties 368 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,160 for cutting them down or something. 369 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,200 That's right. Yes. 370 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,160 Yeah. Yeah, that's right. 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,160 You want to keep them in the park if you can. 372 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,960 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 10 penny 373 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:27,840 parks. Yeah. 374 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Thunder work games. That's going to be. 375 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,120 There's no no sign of an expansion or anything. 376 00:19:31,790 --> 00:19:34,070 He didn't mention anything. I think he's moving on to 377 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:35,750 another project that he couldn't talk about. 378 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:38,830 So I was like, cool. But at least he was kind enough 379 00:19:38,830 --> 00:19:41,670 to share his thoughts on his experience. 380 00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:43,270 Yeah, and then I need to look out. 381 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:45,150 Pimba Valley. I'm gonna do that now while we 382 00:19:45,150 --> 00:19:46,790 listen to the next clip. Yep. 383 00:19:46,790 --> 00:19:50,670 Which is from Tatay Wu. Tatay Wu? 384 00:19:50,670 --> 00:19:51,870 Yes. Here we go. 385 00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:57,390 Hello, this is Tatay Wu, designer of In the Stars. 386 00:19:57,710 --> 00:20:01,230 In the Stars is a role and draw game for one to six players. 387 00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:04,150 In the game, players will connect stars to create 388 00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:08,230 consolations on one board. They will also draw an animal 389 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:11,550 icon around complete the consolation, which is one of my 390 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:15,430 favorite parts of the game, seeing people draw and share 391 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:18,710 their creativity. No matter how strange your 392 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:22,630 drawing is, a space cat is always adorable. 393 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:26,630 Thank you for coming to In the Stars events at Jincon. 394 00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:34,540 See you out there. How was so? 395 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:40,020 Is that A to be released? Yes, yeah, if I recall 396 00:20:40,020 --> 00:20:44,980 correctly, Tate said. November of this year at 397 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:50,500 crowdfunding or yes, yeah, OK, so you've got this board and you 398 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:54,660 have these neon colored chalk markers. 399 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:56,780 Yeah. Pink, blue-green, yellow, 400 00:20:56,780 --> 00:21:00,060 purple. And you have a card in front of 401 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:05,420 you that has requirements that you have to meet when you draw 402 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:09,660 your constellation. And once you complete those 403 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:13,100 three requirements and you've done it, you then have to 404 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:18,620 physically draw. You have to physically draw the 405 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:22,140 constellation. And I think I had a Scorpion, so 406 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:25,500 I was doing Scorpio. So I drew my first one and he's 407 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:26,940 like, now you have to draw it. I'm like. 408 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:32,310 You don't wanna see my drawing. And so I draw and I'm trying to 409 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:36,350 draw around my stars and make it look like a constellation. 410 00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:39,510 And he's like, oh, you did good. I'm like, no, I didn't know. 411 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:40,590 And is it. So look in the pictures. 412 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:44,750 It's a it's a collective. Everyone's using the same board. 413 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:47,710 Everyone's using the same board in front of you. 414 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:51,230 And you're scoring separately. Yeah. 415 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,590 I've never seen anything like this before because as soon as 416 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:57,390 you said in the stars, so we picked up a game called Look at 417 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:01,450 the Stars. And if I, which had single 418 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,930 boards each player. But again it was, was chalk. 419 00:22:05,010 --> 00:22:07,530 Yeah, chalk pens where we had to draw constellations. 420 00:22:07,770 --> 00:22:11,530 But it was more flipping right. But they are very different 421 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:13,810 games with very similar names that rhymes. 422 00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:19,570 Yeah, it looks it definitely looks like my cup of tea. 423 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:24,050 It's it's really cool. I think we got to play test it, 424 00:22:24,330 --> 00:22:26,090 play test it at the first exposure. 425 00:22:26,530 --> 00:22:30,610 Play test songs like Tatay. Come on, man, you got to, you 426 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:32,690 got to, you got to give me a sound bite for this. 427 00:22:32,690 --> 00:22:34,730 And he was like, yeah, let's, let's do it. 428 00:22:35,010 --> 00:22:40,090 I will dig you a side note while right before we play Tested, guy 429 00:22:40,090 --> 00:22:43,450 walks up to Tatay, he's getting a preview copy of something. 430 00:22:43,450 --> 00:22:46,650 Whatever they're talking, he looks at me and he goes, do I 431 00:22:46,650 --> 00:22:50,530 know you? And I'm like you do, but I'm not 432 00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:51,850 going to tell you where you know me from. 433 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:54,410 It was Jeff, the mad board gamer. 434 00:22:56,970 --> 00:23:00,690 Between Origins and Gencon I have met the entire cast of the 435 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:04,450 Game Casters Podcast. So little plug for them. 436 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:06,170 So yeah I love. I love to win Jeff. 437 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:11,650 Yeah so it was great to see them so but Tata's game is amazing so 438 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:14,970 look for it in the Stars by Tata Wu. 439 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:19,570 You will not regret it. It's so I have just subscribed 440 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,330 from up to that 1. So it's really good. 441 00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:27,400 OK, now we've got Adam. My name is Adam Nikovich. 442 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,160 I'm the operations manager and one of the designers at Tunnel 443 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,400 Monster Collective in Pittsburgh, PA My game is Chef's 444 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,600 Table. It's a cooperative dice game 445 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,480 about working in a fine dining kitchen. 446 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,400 Favorite moment of Gencon was the play test room. 447 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,360 It was one of the best play test rooms I've ever participated in. 448 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,880 Well, run. I got to meet a lot of really 449 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,720 cool people. I got to chat about game design. 450 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Can't ask for a better experience than that at a 451 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:58,310 convention. Yeah, at Adam was really cool 452 00:23:58,350 --> 00:24:01,750 and Okay, So we sit down at Chef's Table, that's the name of 453 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:04,790 the game, and we're waiting for the other players. 454 00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:09,110 And so he's talking about how the version we were about to 455 00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:14,630 play Test was actually bigger, like he envisioned a larger 456 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:19,430 Lacerta style. You're Okay, where you're 457 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:21,670 running an entire restaurant well. 458 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,500 That got too much. They pared it down. 459 00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:30,260 So it's a cooperative game where we're chefs in the kitchen and 460 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:33,140 you roll dice and you're trying to plate food. 461 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:36,300 There's three courses, so three course meal, and you're trying 462 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,860 to plate the food. And each card, which is the 463 00:24:38,980 --> 00:24:43,500 plate, requires a red, 6A, blue, 3, whatever, right? 464 00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:46,740 And so you roll that, You have to go to a station in the 465 00:24:46,740 --> 00:24:49,900 kitchen, roll the dice. But the beauty is this. 466 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,080 If you're playing blue, I'm purple. 467 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,880 You go to the Sioux station and you roll dice, and then I go 468 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,160 there to do it as well. I'm next to you, so I get to 469 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,240 increase the value of any blue dye I roll because you're there. 470 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,160 So it's like if I come up to you to help work the station, it's 471 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,080 like you're going, you're kind of helping me and you're like 472 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,920 saying, Oh no, do this or stir this or. 473 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:16,980 You know, add this spice and so for blue dice or whatever color 474 00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:19,420 you're playing, in this case, you would obviously be playing 475 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,980 blue. I would get a + 1 pip to that 476 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:24,980 die roll. So it's very cool. 477 00:25:25,780 --> 00:25:27,700 And there's stations. We actually go to plate the 478 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,740 food. There's a prep station, a Sioux 479 00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:32,180 station, a grilling station. There's another. 480 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:36,460 Yeah, it's it looks awesome. Hopefully, Adam said. 481 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:39,300 He's going to try and get us a preview copy so that we can play 482 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:41,980 it and then we can have him on so. 483 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:45,380 Adam, if you're listening, don't forget us. 484 00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:46,500 Me. But to me, but we're ready to 485 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:47,780 play. I do, I do. 486 00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:52,740 It sounds like those kind of phone games. 487 00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:54,140 We are trying to complete orders. 488 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:56,900 It's a little bit manic. I do do enjoy. 489 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,580 Good. Gather these bits, do that. 490 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:00,740 Yep. I guess pick up and deliver kind 491 00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:04,260 of start a game a little bit. And this one really just shines 492 00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:07,500 through. I've worked on a line line as a 493 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,500 line cook on a kitchen in like in like in college. 494 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,960 Yeah. And I really felt that like we 495 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,520 were working as a team, but we had to do it just right. 496 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:15,880 Yeah. Yeah. 497 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,200 It's also asymmetrical. Each, each role that you're 498 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 given, you know, I think it's like 8 roles. 499 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,800 And so you have some sort of an ability, right? 500 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,880 Like if you're a sous chef, you get a bonus when you go to that 501 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,120 station. Or if you're the expediter, you 502 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,760 can expedite a second extra die or whatever. 503 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 Right. But it's very cool. 504 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Chef's table. Chef's table, yeah. 505 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,420 I think I've now worked out that I think Pinball Alley wasn't a 506 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:45,060 game. I think Pinball Alley is. 507 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,340 Is it a place at Gencon? Yes. 508 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:50,420 There's no such ball game for pinballs. 509 00:26:50,420 --> 00:26:51,740 I was thinking that would be quite a good game. 510 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,860 I don't know how it would work. It's a it's a place of pinball 511 00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:57,180 games, but that would be good if I went Gencon. 512 00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:59,540 But yeah, there is no game, right? 513 00:26:59,540 --> 00:27:03,220 So we have one more to do. We have Liz up next. 514 00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:07,140 Hi, I'm Liz. With Folded Space, we make board 515 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:08,780 game inserts. They're really lightweight. 516 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:12,580 They're made out of an Eva foam material with a laminated card 517 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:14,940 on the other side, so they don't add much weight at all to your 518 00:27:14,940 --> 00:27:17,620 game boxes. They're sturdy, they're easy to 519 00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:20,380 put together with a little bit of PVA glue, and best of all, 520 00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,380 they're pretty inexpensive. So they make a really good 521 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:24,260 option for organizing your games. 522 00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:27,380 This is our first year at Gen. Con, so we really enjoyed 523 00:27:27,380 --> 00:27:30,540 getting to know people that we'd only interacted with online. 524 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Meeting people who had tried our products but we'd never gotten 525 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,080 to meet before introducing them to new fans. 526 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,800 And most of all, we love getting to show people our new color 527 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,240 inserts. This is something that we've 528 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760 really been pushing for for the last year or so. 529 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,880 We work with the publishers to license the art of the game, 530 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 which we print directly on the insert, so that makes the insert 531 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,280 really beautiful. It also makes it really 532 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,400 practical. Often the trays will go directly 533 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000 onto the game board and you can see where all the different 534 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 components go. People seem to really enjoy 535 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,840 those, so it was a really good experience for us. 536 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,040 We know big fans folded space. Yes, Anyone who's listened to us 537 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,200 knows that Gareth and I love folded space, love their 538 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,120 product, and the people are amazing. 539 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,960 I was surprised, at least in the US, because I did get to talk to 540 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Richard. Yeah, so Richard is the second 541 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,200 person on this planet who has met. 542 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,000 Both of us now. Wow, these lucky individuals, 543 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,560 right? I know, You know. 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:39,240 So if you are ever in England and you're in Midwest US, you 545 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760 can meet Gareth and I and be one of those lucky. 546 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720 We need to look a little badge, right? 547 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Yeah. See, maybe it's half the badge 548 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520 is me pool and the other half is another me pool and they. 549 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:51,310 They oh sounds just made some merch. 550 00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:55,670 But before we get distracted by that idea so it was great to 551 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:59,350 talk to Richard. Their booth was very successful. 552 00:28:59,350 --> 00:29:01,310 They were there. They were busy the whole time. 553 00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:04,750 Was surprised how many people it was. 554 00:29:04,750 --> 00:29:09,270 Their first time purchasing A folded space insert was a 555 00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:11,510 Gencon. He had come in a lot of people, 556 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:14,470 so it was great. It gave them more exposure to an 557 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:18,040 American market. I guess, I guess, I mean Frost 558 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Haven is their big products. I think anyone who did well the 559 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,160 back it would have, Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yes. 560 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,160 But their color line of inserts has really grown. 561 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,760 They're they're doing more and more. 562 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,760 I'm trying to think of the most recent one that surprised me. 563 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440 Oh, Lost Ruins of Arnac. Oh yeah, I haven't seen that one 564 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,360 yet. I've seen that and I'm like. 565 00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:45,970 I have the Gray one, so I'm not going to buy the color one. 566 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:48,370 But now I'm like I told Richard I was like, how could you do 567 00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:52,370 that to me? I think I think if people go 568 00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:57,290 back, we have our interview with Richard, an episode maybe 15 or 569 00:29:57,290 --> 00:29:59,410 so ago. Yeah, he was our very first 570 00:29:59,410 --> 00:30:05,170 guest on here and he talked to me at the UK Games Expo about 571 00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:06,610 printing. And actually I think from a 572 00:30:06,610 --> 00:30:10,890 brightly it was, it's cheaper to print the color inserts that it 573 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:14,820 was. The Gray, yeah, how about that. 574 00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:16,180 But you need the right machinery. 575 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:19,500 So yeah, it's great that that that that put line is I guess 576 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,060 rapidly evolving. I'm sure it never stops. 577 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,900 But at UK GE they'd sold out by the Sunday, is that similar? 578 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:29,700 They he did not sell out when I saw him at the end of the day on 579 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,060 Sunday, they still had product love. 580 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,740 OK that's good. So yeah, very popular. 581 00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:35,660 Yeah, big fan. Definitely need to get a few 582 00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:39,340 more of those into a number of recent acquisitions I have. 583 00:30:40,210 --> 00:30:43,490 OK, so that is the end of our designer episode. 584 00:30:43,890 --> 00:30:45,850 Yeah. Our next episode, we're going to 585 00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:52,130 hear your personal experience. I'll just melodical for 30 586 00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:56,050 minutes or less and tell you about my thoughts and my 587 00:30:56,050 --> 00:30:58,250 experience of Gen. Con with all the people I met. 588 00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:03,090 Pj's road trip. Yeah, OK, so with with that, I 589 00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:05,770 look forward to hearing more about your road trip to Gen. 590 00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:07,810 Con and your post game experiences. 591 00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:12,030 Thank you everyone for listening and we'll be back next week. 592 00:31:12,990 --> 00:31:15,310 Thanks everyone for listening. Please subscribe. 593 00:31:15,310 --> 00:31:19,190 And as always, we love to hear your thoughts and ideas, so make 594 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:21,110 sure to leave those in the comments. 595 00:31:21,310 --> 00:31:25,310 And don't forget you can also chat with us both on Instagram 596 00:31:25,390 --> 00:31:26,990 at meepletomeeple.