1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Welcome to Meeple to Meeple, uniting players around the 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,640 world. A 30 minute exploration of TJ 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,880 and Gareth 4 game experiences from across both sides of the 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,480 Atlantic. Each episode they share their 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,440 thoughts and opinions on the World of War games, including 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,480 their favorite themes, games, hot topics, and much, much more. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,920 Hey, and welcome to episode 86 of Meeple to Meeple Origins Game 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,160 Fair recap. That's right. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,680 Just got back from Origins and we're going to talk about it. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,320 And as always, I am PJ. And I'm here, it's me, Gareth. 11 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:38,560 It feels like, and maybe it doesn't feel like it must be a 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,040 month. I don't know the games, UK Games 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Expo and then. And then you vanished. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,440 I vanished. I went to see Taylor Swift. 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Yep. Which we'll talk about different 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 day, Yeah. And then here we are. 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,200 That's right. So I'm looking forward to 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,520 hearing about your little galavant into origins. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,840 So the first thing I want to say to you and to all of our 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,080 listeners, I do not recommend going to a gaming convention for 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,280 one day only. It's. 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,320 Hard isn't. It trying to do it all in one 23 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:21,840 day is ridiculous is. Really hard, isn't it? 24 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:27,200 And guess what Gareth? I'm going to do it again in a 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,600 few weeks. Did you, did you, did you buy 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,400 any games? Did you tell us about Origins? 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,960 I mean, there's a lot about origins, but I'm going to do so. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,920 I did not learn my lesson because I'm going to Gen. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Con for one day in a few weeks. So I just want to get that out. 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Which day? I'm going to Sunday on the 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,520 Sunday. Yeah. 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Which I'm glad, because as part of my experience at Origins, I 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,120 learned Sunday is the right day to go. 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Sunday is the day when you get to do stuff that no one's around 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 for. Yeah, it's a bit less, a bit 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,200 less hectic. It is it is it it, it is. 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Yes, I agree Origins. So origins is great. 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,680 I think the final numbers reported from the company was 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,000 17,000 OK attendees. Yeah. 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,840 I think their highest was 20 right before the pandemic and 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,840 then it dropped and they're climbing back up, which is 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,760 great. I love it. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,880 The aisles are wider. You're not getting knocked 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,640 around by all the big game backpacks and everything. 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,120 You have time to talk to the designers. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:45,840 You can see the entire vendor hall easily in one day. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 And by one day I mean from open to close, which I think is like 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,880 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM. So that's what, 7 hours? 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,680 You should be able to see everything. 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,920 And what's was there? Was there any new releases or 51 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:06,760 was it, was it? There was, it's just OK. 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,280 There are some games to buy, but most people do open gaming. 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,680 There, well there, Yep. So you have open gaming with a 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,560 games library that you can check games out and play, and then you 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 have like the events area and then you have the vendor hall. 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,720 But to answer your question, new games and new releases and 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,320 things, there were several games that have not yet come out that 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:33,000 they were demoing and featuring. There was one game that just 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,800 finished fulfillment and they were selling and then the 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,920 release, the release that was Caution Signs by Wacky Wizard 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:50,560 Games designed by Danielle Reynolds, who was in your neck 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 of the woods last week. She was in London, yeah. 63 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 And won an award and then she would. 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 She is currently OK Where is she right now? 65 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,960 She was in Croatia and then she went to Bosnia. 66 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:03,840 I think she's in Bosnia at this moment of recording, but she's 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 in Eastern Europe, I think taking a well deserved vacation. 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Nice, yeah. Caution signs and we're going to 69 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,000 have Danielle on at some point as a guest to talk more about 70 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,800 caution signs. But let me tell you this, this 71 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:26,200 game is so good. It is better than it has any 72 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,960 right to be. It plays three to nine players 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,920 and you have a dry erase caution sign in front of you. 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,160 So like a yellow and black diamond or a square, if you turn 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,920 it, but it's a diamond, you'll draw two cards. 76 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,000 One is a caution, one is a sign. And essentially, it's an 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,240 adjective, and a noun is what it really is. 78 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,800 But you don't look at it. And each player takes turns 79 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,880 guessing, right? So once everyone's ready, you 80 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,840 have 20 seconds. So they start the timer, you 81 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:08,760 look at your two cards, and then you have to draw it on your 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,680 sign. And you have 20 seconds to look 83 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,880 at it, process it, draw it, and then the timer's up. 84 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,800 And then you put them all in front of the guesser and the 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,800 guesser has to guess them all. But you add two additional decoy 86 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,520 cards to to make it a little difficult. 87 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Yeah. And then if the guesser for 88 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,160 everyone the guesser gets right, they get three points. 89 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,760 If they guess both words on your sign, you get 2. 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 If she if the she or he only guesses one, then you get one 91 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,080 point, but the guesser gets zero. 92 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 And if she doesn't get it, he or she doesn't get it, you get 0. 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,720 That's the game. And you look around. 94 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Might win the game. It's, it's incredible. 95 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:56,960 It is just amazing. I was watching Danielle at play 96 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,200 testing sessions all throughout, like in the past six months. 97 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,400 She was always posting everywhere she went. 98 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,920 She was play testing this game. And I'm like, I have no idea 99 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,120 what's going on, but people are drawing and it looks interesting 100 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,440 and we played it and Oh my God, it is so much fun. 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Even the demo, just to learn to play it real quick was just 102 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,120 incredible. It's great with strangers, it's 103 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,400 great with seasoned gamers, new gamers, who cares? 104 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 It's a lot of fun. That's caution signs by Wacky 105 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Wizard Games. It was pre released at a limited 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,320 release UK Games Expo and then it released at Origins, so you 107 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,000 can get a copy now. Reynolds. 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,280 Over here is the 1st of August. Yeah. 109 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Yes, yeah, I seen a proper, proper, Yeah, so it's only month 110 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:45,640 away, but yes, I've just added it to my. 111 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,840 No, it's. Great wish list of games. 112 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,200 It's so good. You got it. 113 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,720 You got to do it. That's caution science. 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Yeah. Caution signs. 115 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Yeah, so Danielle, we can't wait to talk to you more about this 116 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,560 game in the future because I know she listens to the show so. 117 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Yeah, awesome. Yeah, he's just gone straight 118 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,360 into the Yeah, probably next going up by. 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,840 So that was that was the, that was the release. 120 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,480 Yeah, purchase it, demo it, everything there. 121 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 So that was the one game. Also the lanyard featured 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,880 caution signs on the lanyard for the for the badges were just a 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,560 lot of fun. There were two demos that stood 124 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,720 out. The first one, I'm not going to 125 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,680 say a lot about it because you've already talked about it, 126 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:34,040 but I got to see a demonstration of SETI by CGE, and I'm going to 127 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,840 tell you what, that's the hot game. 128 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,560 See Hot game is that. That's that is everyone was 129 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,480 talking about Seti it Oh my God and the fact that what the 130 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,320 demonstrator was showing like the game's still not finished 131 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:49,760 it's. Still. 132 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 But there's still art cards, there's still hags. 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Yeah, missing game. Game is incredible. 134 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Yeah. Oh, that is just yeah. 135 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,800 I'm not going to repeat it because you said everything. 136 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,200 The hotness of essence, you just feel like it's going to be OK. 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Good. I'm so glad that. 138 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,760 The UKU kg vibe of SETI being, Oh yes, hot on the hotness is 139 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 carried its way over to the Atlantic. 140 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 This is what I did learn from Nathan at CGE. 141 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,560 It's going to be released at Essence Spiel in in Europe and 142 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,040 it will have AUS release it packs unplugged in December. 143 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,800 So OK, we're going to have to wait till December in the US. 144 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,560 You'll get a copy before I will, but that's that's where they, 145 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,440 that's where they. Ask for once. 146 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Europe is first. Oh yeah, you're 1st and then I 147 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,200 saw a state by. State. 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,960 Yes. A state by Grad Games. 149 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:49,480 It's Devin, Devin and Catherine, and they're going to work with 150 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,280 us to get us a copy in her hands so that we can play it. 151 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,560 We're going to have them on the show. 152 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,560 A state, Yeah. ESTAT. 153 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Yes, you're running a so I, I, I picture it a little bit like 154 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,720 obsession. So there we go. 155 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,480 We got obsession into this episode. 156 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,600 It's sort of like obsession in that you're running an estate in 157 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,200 England, but during the Middle Ages and it's car driven rather 158 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,800 than tiles, but it's pretty cool. 159 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,800 We'll talk about it more when we get our preview copy and. 160 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,720 Estate raised the realm. Yes. 161 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Found it. That was yeah Estate. 162 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,640 You get other games. I was puzzled then, but I found 163 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,520 it. Yep. 164 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:35,600 Looks good. It's it's. 165 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Really a medieval theme. I love a medieval theme. 166 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,200 I know you do. I know you do. 167 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,400 So yeah, that's going to be. That was a fantastic game. 168 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,600 So yeah, that one's not yet released. 169 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,840 I think it's coming to Kickstarter October. 170 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 And like I said, we'll have Devon or Catherine on the show 171 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,720 in the future. I'll tell you what, that's what 172 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,000 I did mostly. I did a lot of work for the 173 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,960 podcast. I met with a lot of designers 174 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,720 and started getting people scheduled and lined up. 175 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,840 And that was really, that was fun because it gave me, I don't 176 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,400 know if you felt this way at the Games Expo, but the podcast kind 177 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,880 of gives me some direction and focus. 178 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 When I go to game convenience. It's kind of, you know, Katie 179 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,080 and I, we do our homework, OK? We want to see these booths. 180 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,880 We want to demo these games. But I feel like I'm a little bit 181 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,480 more focused because I had, I had this. 182 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,960 Yeah, but it didn't squeeze that into one day. 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,440 It's half, half the challenge, wasn't it? 184 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,760 Because normally you spread the the work side of things into two 185 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,920 or three days. So doing both the socials and 186 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,880 the gaming and shopping and trying to talk to people about, 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,480 you know, exactly. The world of board games. 188 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Yes, exactly so. Now you spoke. 189 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,880 You spoke to some people. I did do. 190 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,440 You want to do You want to play a recording? 191 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Yeah, go ahead, set us up. Who's first? 192 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Should we go? I'm going to do in the order you 193 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,440 sent them to me. So we're going to go with 194 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Kristen first. Yes, perfect. 195 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640 OK, cool. Hi, I'm Kristen Mott. 196 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,360 I'm family dot board gaming on Instagram. 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Some of my favorite moments from this year's origins was getting 198 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,840 to meet Roberta Taylor, designer of Creature comforts and lots of 199 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,840 other games. I had sort of this fangirl 200 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,120 moment getting to meet who IA woman, who I think is just a 201 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,880 wonderful voice for female designers in this industry. 202 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,520 So that was fun for me. And other big moments for me 203 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:32,960 throughout the convention were just seeing some of my games out 204 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,600 on the floor. Sharks was for sale with the 205 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,680 Dietz Foundation and then my game in Sectarium that's coming 206 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:43,640 out with Snow Bright later this fall was available to be demoed 207 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,600 in their booth. And so it was just a very fun 208 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,720 and rewarding and exciting experience for me and being able 209 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,520 to just stay up way too late to play lots of games with friends. 210 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,680 There you go. Nice. 211 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,280 So if you haven't figured it out, Kristen is one of the most 212 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,560 delightful people ever. So you got a you got a copy. 213 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,760 She sent you a copy of Sharks. We both, we both played it. 214 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,560 So here's the beauty of Kristen and I really hope that our 215 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:18,600 listeners take the time to follow her on Instagram and 216 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,400 check out her work. She's got two games two games 217 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,200 out and this Insectarium's the third one that we got to play 218 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:32,480 their gain their their focus towards educating children, both 219 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,320 her and her husband educating children are really important to 220 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,240 the both of them. So they're really dedicated to 221 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 that and pulling that into our board game community. 222 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,200 Sharks was definitely, there was definitely an educational 223 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,960 component. It's really focused more on 224 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,320 children. But she also did dinosaur 225 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,680 exhibit, which was fantastic. A kind of a rolling right where 226 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,480 you're building a museum and you're putting dinosaur exhibits 227 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,200 into your museum. That's that game's a hit at our 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 table. But she did mention in her in 229 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,400 her recording that she's about to release Insectarium. 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Is that a Kickstarter? Is that a release? 231 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,080 That is going to be a Kickstarter if I'm not mistaken. 232 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,440 OK, show messages and. Correct. 233 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Yeah, correct. This. 234 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,560 And what was Kristen's Instagram handle? 235 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,520 It's at Family dot board gaming. Nice. 236 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Yeah, Insectarium was was really cool. 237 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:30,800 I mean, because it's the whole idea that you're collecting 238 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,120 insects and you've got like a three by three grid in front of 239 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,600 you. You're playing those cards and 240 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,440 you're trying to match the icons. 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,160 But it's very informative. Like, again, it's geared towards 242 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,760 kids. There's a just enough strategy 243 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,360 to keep adults engaged, much like sharks, much like dinosaur 244 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,200 exhibit. But yeah, it's all about 245 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,920 teaching kids about insects. And that was cool. 246 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,800 That was a great. I was really glad I got to play 247 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,920 that. Kristen is super humble. 248 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,760 She needs all the support that we can give. 249 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,640 And you know, when you meet her and you tell her, oh, I love 250 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,120 your Grame. And I think you're fantastic. 251 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,040 And she's like, no. That's lovely, yeah. 252 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,080 Well, it's good. To hear that she's that she's 253 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,320 progressing and you know, she's, she's, she's. 254 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,840 Kind of complicated. I saw her a geek way and she's 255 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,480 working on something else. She's going to lie. 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Yeah. Kristen's going to be. 257 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,200 You're going to be hearing more from her. 258 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,000 I was with her when she met Roberta Taylor, the designer of 259 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Creature Converts in Maple Valley and other games. 260 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:38,200 That was a theme in Origins was women designers and more, More 261 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,440 women in the community that came up a lot did it in conversations 262 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,520 at panels, signage. It just there was a definitely a 263 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,800 theme of empowering women in the board gaming community as 264 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 designers and publishers, not just as gamers. 265 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,800 And yeah, that's great. I really applaud that so. 266 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,920 How? How big is the the panel scene 267 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,360 over there? It's for origins. 268 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,680 It's growing, it's still, it's still really small. 269 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Whereas Gen. Con, it's just there's so many 270 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,160 panels, it's. More around, you know, topics 271 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,600 like women engaged than just. Right. 272 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,040 Like a podcast or? Like a podcast? 273 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Yeah, yeah. Cool. 274 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,440 You shouldn't say it like that because you and I would love to 275 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,360 have a panel about our podcast. Yeah, but but yeah, but it's 276 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,040 more, there are more interesting topics. 277 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,600 And listen to a podcast get recorded live. 278 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,480 No, you're absolutely right. But but yeah, so that was that 279 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,920 was really exciting. I was really, I was really happy 280 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,920 to see the advocacy of women in the in the community and that. 281 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,200 What else did you listen to or see or do? 282 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:52,040 So we saw a game called Sirens by Envy Born Games. 283 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 So it's envy, like jealousy, Envy born games. 284 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,120 It is a small two player game that you can hold in one hand. 285 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,880 It it's it's pretty fit. Yeah. 286 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 So it's really cool. It's a card drafting game. 287 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,200 You draft 4 cards. You play 3 of the you know, you 288 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,040 play a card back and forth, you and your opponent. 289 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,520 So you're fashioning a song, kind of like, and and the 290 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,280 picture, the artwork is done by Art Casey. 291 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,960 It's like a Greek trireme. It's kind of set in the ancient 292 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,480 Greek Aegean. Here's why I tell you about this 293 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,520 game. What makes it, what sets it 294 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,840 apart from all other card drafting 2 player games, is that 295 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 you're creating a song and we could get into all the details, 296 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,480 but there's an app just like Wingspan. 297 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,120 It takes a picture of your cards and it reads the musical notes 298 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,360 and it plays the song that you fashioned in your cards and it's 299 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,080 like that harpsichord, like like an like you would you would get 300 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Oh my God, like a loot. And it was just fantastic. 301 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,240 I was like, OK, we're going to get a copy of this game and we 302 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,160 want to push more. Envy Born Games does a lot of 303 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,319 these small two players micro games. 304 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,960 And yeah, I had never heard of them, but we saw sirens and 305 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,000 we're like, OK, so I can listen to the song that I'm fashioning 306 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,280 from the cars in front of me. I mean, I'm sold. 307 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,760 Yeah, I love the artwork, the whole Greek piece, and I love 308 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,200 that use of technology. That's one I'm intrigued. 10. 309 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,480 To 15 minutes and that's true. I mean we could play a couple 310 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,280 games in half an hour to an hour easy. 311 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Yeah, it's it's fantastic. Pretty sirens by in. 312 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Sirens. Games. 313 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Is that released now or is? It yes, no, it's out. 314 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,680 You can you can purchase it today. 315 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Can see if it's if it's auk release. 316 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Yes, it's in stock. There you go. 317 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,400 Only one shop in the UK has got it in stock. 318 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,320 Well then you better get a share. 319 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,160 I've never. Even heard of all rolled up. 320 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,200 There's some advertising for All rolled up. 321 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Never heard of them as a shop £14.99 there's only three left 322 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,480 in stock. Well. 323 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,200 That could be it. Be about to be two in a minute 324 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,720 once I've. You need to get that. 325 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,960 So who's who's next? #2 On the list was our friend 326 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,080 Adam. Oh yeah. 327 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,640 Here we go. So Origins 2024 was a blast. 328 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Got to hang out with PJ and lots of other content creators which 329 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,240 is always such a fun time hanging out with friends and 330 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,600 building a relationship with them as well as going all over 331 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Origins, Medium, publishers, playing games. 332 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,040 I think the highlight for me was get to play in Sectarium with 333 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Kristen Mott and our whole content content creator gang. 334 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,160 It's so much fun. What a blast. 335 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Can't wait to see everybody again at Gen. 336 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,440 Con and or PAX. I mean nicely lined up. 337 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,840 I mean, you couldn't have asked for a perfect segue from 1:00. 338 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,640 I told you to the. Next. 339 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,840 Yeah, so I, I pictured Kristen listening to this episode and 340 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,800 just blushing from ear to ear. She's like, Oh my God. 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Nope. Kristen, you're awesome and we 342 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,960 love you. And what what games do you play 343 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,600 with Adam? Did you actually play games? 344 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,680 Did you just hang out? No, well, we did. 345 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,200 We did a lot. Chris, Kristen, Adam was Adam 346 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,320 kept himself busy. Adam was he was rocking it. 347 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,960 His, his platform tabletop vibes is just really they're, they're, 348 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,480 they're kicking out of the park with their first impression 349 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,920 videos on YouTube, so be sure to check them out. 350 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,960 We played, we played Insectarium. 351 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,200 He was one of the ones we played Insectarium together. 352 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,200 We played caution signs together, the whole group, 353 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,160 everyone, I think pretty much everybody you're going to hear 354 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600 from. We all had dinner together 355 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Friday evening and then we went back to the table and played a 356 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,960 few more games. Yeah, yeah, we didn't get in a 357 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,200 lot of games, but probably I'm going to tell you the same game 358 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,320 for everybody. If the same game. 359 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 We we really didn't play a lot of games because it was like 360 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,320 meeting people, going to dinner, you know, doing this and that, 361 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,840 but and. It was only a day. 362 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,320 And it was only a day. I don't recommend it, folks. 363 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Don't do a single. Day. 364 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,920 It's hard to do a hard day. Do you do another? 365 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,400 Do you want to do another one straight away? 366 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,680 Yeah, I want to say one more thing about Adam. 367 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:49,560 So Adam's wife is like about to have a baby, like, you know, I 368 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,200 think she's due in a few weeks. So we want to offer our 369 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,840 congratulations to Adam. We may not. 370 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,320 I don't know. He said Gen. 371 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,480 Con. I don't know that we're going to 372 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,400 see him at Gen. Con because he's going to have a 373 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,320 newborn and he's going to be pretty busy. 374 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,880 I know he's sweating it, but my Rose bro, I love you. 375 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Yeah, I have loads of time to do content now though, you know. 376 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,400 Oh yeah, maybe in one arm video. Microphone in the other. 377 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,880 There you go. Piece of cake. 378 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Easy. So who we were? 379 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,120 Who's who's next? So, Adam, next I've got Sam. 380 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Who is Sam? Sam. 381 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,480 This is Sam Barmettler with Around the Stump Games. 382 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720 I would have to say my favorite part about Origins was 383 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,320 definitely the relaxed atmosphere. 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960 It led to an opportunity to actually be able to engage with 385 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240 other board gamers instead of just having to go through people 386 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,080 very rapidly while working a booth. 387 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,160 I would say a strong second runner up was the giant bear hug 388 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,200 that I got from PJ as soon as I saw him. 389 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Can't be APJ John bear hug can you? 390 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,680 Did. You. 391 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Crush him. I mean, I tried. 392 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,880 So for those of you if you don't remember, Sam is the designer of 393 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Outrun the Bear. He has a new game that's coming 394 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,000 out, and that's true. Yeah. 395 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Run PJ. Yeah, we got to chat with him. 396 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,960 He's still in production working on it, but he was kind of 397 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,720 demoing a prototype, which was cool. 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000 We got to visit with him for a little bit. 399 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,520 I like how he described Origins as a relaxed atmosphere. 400 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Yeah. It's nice. 401 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,960 I, I think that's probably accurate. 402 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,480 Gen. Con's really high stress. 403 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,720 There's just it's, it's constantly on the go now. 404 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Granted, Origins was a little high stress for me because it 405 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,160 was constantly moving, but it was good to see Sam. 406 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,080 We'll have him on on the show when he's ready to talk about. 407 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Him Oh definitely it was the next game last time and he's 408 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240 talk about that. He's pointing around the relax. 409 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,800 Where does PAX sit? Is that less even more chilled 410 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840 or? So, you know, it depends on who 411 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320 you talk to. So I've never been to PAX. 412 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,160 The reason I've not been to PAX is it's in Philadelphia in the 413 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,640 first week in December, which is like 3 weeks before Christmas. 414 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,600 So trying to wrangle all that in the middle of the holidays is a 415 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,080 challenge. You know, I know a lot of our 416 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,320 friends do it, but mostly the people in New England who are in 417 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040 the northeastern part of the United States. 418 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,880 They can make it because Philadelphia is there. 419 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,160 But people love it. I've heard nothing but good 420 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,360 things. I've heard it's really chill. 421 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:42,200 I suspect that it's more chill than Origins. 422 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,320 I'd love to have a winter con like, Oh yeah, do you know what 423 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,920 I mean? Yeah, because they were in the 424 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,680 summer and it's always hot and I quite like a. 425 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Well, you need a S You need one based in Southampton. 426 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Is what you need to do because that would be feasible, right? 427 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,960 And easy for me, very convenient. 428 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,120 There you go, get everybody to come down instead of going up to 429 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,840 Birmingham or wherever. Yeah, I'll try. 430 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,440 I'll try it. I think winter meeple or maybe I 431 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,960 can't use that word anymore, so maybe it's winter hue meeple or 432 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,440 whatever it might be. Any other highlights before we 433 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,800 listen to that video? Yeah, so we had one event. 434 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,160 I talked about it in my preview where I went solo, Katie and I 435 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840 did. We got to learn how to play 436 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,400 Dabba Walla. Say that again. 437 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Dabba Walla. How do you spell that? 438 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,200 DABBA. DABBE. 439 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,360 Walla, it's by Queen Games, our good friends at Queen. 440 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:50,080 Games, yeah, yes. Yes. 441 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,720 So we got to play a full game, you know, learn to play and then 442 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,920 play a full game for players. So it was Katie and I and and 443 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,720 two other people we had never met before and then they had it 444 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,000 for sale because their Kickstarter fulfilled. 445 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,440 They were selling them. So that was good. 446 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,200 So we picked up a copy of Dabba Walla and God we love that. 447 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280 That's cool. It's a Poly amino tile laying 448 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,120 tile stacking game a la Acropolis #9. 449 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,080 Yeah, yeah. Except you don't. 450 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,040 You don't want any gas, right? You're, you're, you're basically 451 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840 just like the dabba Walla in Mumbai, right? 452 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,600 You're stacking up the dabba, you know, on your bicycle, on 453 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,920 your bicycle and you're. Going to do like the. 454 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,720 Artwork and you're going to deliver it it's. 455 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320 It's really colorful. It is really good. 456 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,600 OK, it is. Heavy. 457 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,520 Quite light. It's it's lightweight, but the 458 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:55,600 strategy is deep. I'm just saying it's it's easy 459 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720 to comprehend but difficult to master. 460 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Queen Games Dabba Walla. We got a free copy of Finish 461 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,600 Line as part of the purchase, which was kind of fun. 462 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Oh yeah, that's a horse racing. It is and it's. 463 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000 I've not heard of that. When you posted there about it, 464 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,920 I looked it up and thought it looked quite interesting. 465 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Right. No, it's cool. 466 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,920 It is a fun game. We played with some friends 467 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,160 yesterday here at the house and it was it, Yeah, Finish Line was 468 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280 a lot of fun, but Dabba Walla is it is serious. 469 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,400 It is. It is so good, right? 470 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Queen Games, right? Queen games. 471 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,760 When they hit it, they hit it out of the park. 472 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200 You know what I mean? Like their games are just so 473 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,120 good. Yeah, we're still playing 474 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,160 Marrakesh, which is we are. So we. 475 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,160 Yeah, Yeah. In fact, we have. 476 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,800 You know, Kenny and I were just talking about Queen games and we 477 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840 have six games in our collection. 478 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,120 I was. Just thinking of, I'm just 479 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,480 thinking the same thing. There's have we got certain 480 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240 games by Queen Games? I'm looking up to see one now 481 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,640 We've got Shogun up there. I can see. 482 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Yep. My oldest one is from 2007 so 483 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,360 even their older games still hold up. 484 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,080 Yeah, and and Merigo and Merigo. Amerigo. 485 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,680 Amerigo. That's still in the collection 486 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,920 and we're very, I mean, it's all, it's all a bit beige, but I 487 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,880 still like the mechanics of the tower and the cubes and the 488 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Rondell. I'm sure that's got Rondell. 489 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,920 Yeah. Nice. 490 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,720 Yeah. See, it's all this in a day. 491 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,800 All in a day. Keep that in mind, kids. 492 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,240 All in a day. OK, so #4 we have Ben lined up. 493 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:44,240 Ben, click on. #4. Hey, this is Ben from Games with 494 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,480 Ben. My favorite part of Origins 2024 495 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,040 was probably playing Marrakesh. I just love the crunchiness of 496 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,880 that game and the cool cube tower where some of the cubes 497 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960 get stuck on the way down. It's very unique. 498 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,360 And I, I, I got to also mention Fliptown. 499 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,400 It's a new flip and write game that I really, really enjoyed. 500 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,160 It's just with a standard deck of cards. 501 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,400 So pretty cool concept and really enjoyed learning that one 502 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,640 and look forward to playing it more. 503 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040 I'd just like to say though, I haven't listened to these clips 504 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080 so I didn't know that Marrakech was the highlight. 505 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,080 So glad only these segues between episodes. 506 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,640 You wouldn't even wouldn't. Even think about it so so Ben is 507 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,560 Ben lives in Cincinnati, so he's only like an hour from Columbus, 508 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960 which is where origins is this is an easy trip for. 509 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Him. Ben is really interesting. 510 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,880 If you go to his Instagram and follow him, he has a series 511 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,320 where you track he's trying to knock out his board game 512 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,360 backlog, which is substantial, right? 513 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640 It's just, it's really interesting how he does it and 514 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920 he takes you on that journey. You know, he'll put up his post, 515 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,960 his stats, you know, 575 games, this percentage. 516 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that he does that. 517 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920 That's really cool. That's what he's most known for. 518 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,280 He told me something interesting. 519 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880 Game conventions are good opportunities for him to knock 520 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040 out his board game backlog. Yeah. 521 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Like this is when he gets his games played, you know, get a 522 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,880 big push four or five days of just. 523 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Yeah, if you can find people who's who've played them, then 524 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,040 you can play the games that you haven't played and somebody has 525 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 taught you. He and I talked about queen 526 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 games a lot, so it was not surprising that he mentioned 527 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,560 Marrakech 'cause I think when I saw him first. 528 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 He had dinner with us later that evening, but I ran into him. 529 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 He was getting ready. We had just finished the learn 530 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120 to play of Doba Walla. He was about to engage in a 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,280 learn to play of Vienna. Which? 532 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,760 Part of the city collection for Queen Games. 533 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:04,120 So also Queen Games has a new social media marketing agent. 534 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,120 I'm not really sure. Her name's Rachel. 535 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040 So she's kind of consolidating all of the social media. 536 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,840 She runs their TikTok and she's trying to get get everything 537 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,240 consolidated in Instagram and other socials. 538 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Yeah. So I'm sure that's why I looked 539 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,080 at about 6 different social media accounts. 540 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,880 They do different. Countries and. 541 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,320 They're trying to tighten it up and so got to chat with Rachel a 542 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800 good bit, made some contacts. She's going to get us on the 543 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,920 list for their upcoming games so that we can work more with 544 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Queens. So that'll be fun. 545 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280 You'll hear more about Queen games. 546 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,720 I thought I mean Ben mentioned flip town so that was probably 547 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,560 my favorite flip and write from last year. 548 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,280 Is that right? Yeah, it's really good. 549 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,680 I mean, yeah, I mean, it's really hard. 550 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,840 I think it's really hard to find. 551 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,440 It was a Kickstarter but the Decker cards playing through 552 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,320 excellent if you can find it, highly recommend it myself as 553 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,800 well. There you go guys. 554 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,080 You heard it here. Who do we have next? 555 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Abby yeah #5? #5 should. 556 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,680 Put these in order. There we go. 557 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200 Hey, it's Abby. Do you even game? 558 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,000 So my favorite experience of Origins was getting to talk to 559 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,280 all the publishers and getting some review copies and the fact 560 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,680 that they see. Worked in my account and want to 561 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,800 share their product with me. So I want to tell you a little 562 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,360 bit about Abby. I have not yet met her. 563 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 So how did you got a different day? 564 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,320 Yeah, no. So we were part of a chat group 565 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,800 for Geek Way in Saint Louis, and we missed each other because 566 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,520 guess what PJ did? He went to Geek Way for one day 567 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,680 so he missed Abby. We were in the same chat group 568 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120 for Origins. Nice. 569 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,080 And guess what PJ did? He went to Origins for one day 570 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,800 and he missed Abby. And so we were chatting after 571 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Origins and I was like, listen, send me a sound bite. 572 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Tell me. Tell me your favorite event. 573 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Tell me your favorite moment. I want to get you on the show, 574 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,080 and we're going to remember I'm going to Gen. 575 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Con for one. Day. 576 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,280 It really is the one day conventions for PJ this year. 577 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,520 I hopefully will see Abby at that point. 578 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640 I'm just admiring the Guinea pig, right? 579 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,000 Makes a often a feature in Abby's account. 580 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:45,400 So do do space you as you to you dot even dot game. 581 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480 Dot game Yep. Do you even game? 582 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,680 And so I like what Abby said. She was talking about how 583 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,360 designers and publishers saw worth in her account. 584 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,000 And I think that we, for whatever reason, I don't know 585 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,520 why we do this to ourselves and present company included, OK, I 586 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960 I'm guilty of it. We don't see our own worth. 587 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,160 And we always think, oh, this publisher is not going to want 588 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,200 to work with me, or that designer's not going to want to 589 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,800 talk to me, or that podcaster's too famous to even know my name. 590 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,800 And that's not the case. Never, you know. 591 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:32,200 So just to drive that point home, so I connected with as 592 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Cadelia and Professor Meg before Origins. 593 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640 And the whole thing was, look, I'm only going to be there for a 594 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,160 day. Even if I could just come by, 595 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840 say hi, get a hug, that's cool. And they were very, very 596 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,480 accompanied. And these are these are famous 597 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,120 people in the community, right? I saw them, but they were 598 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,040 chatting with someone they and you never know when someone's in 599 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,520 a meeting because they are actually employed with some of 600 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960 these companies. So I'm not going to, you know, I 601 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,280 don't want to be that guy, right? 602 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,840 So like, I'll just walk. I'll come by later. 603 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280 And then I'd come back and they were, they look like they were 604 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520 talking and I didn't. So I sent them a message and 605 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,159 they were like, you absolutely should have come and said hi. 606 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080 We wanted to see you, you know, And it's like that that makes me 607 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 feel good. It's like, OK, so I do have 608 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,040 worth. I am doing something. 609 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,920 People do see the work that we produced and they want to share 610 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400 that joy. So there you go. 611 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,239 We're all worthy. Go and say hello. 612 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,679 Yes. And I said filming something 613 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,120 like that would be really awkward. 614 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,199 That would be awkward. But yeah, that would be awkward. 615 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,800 So there you go, Everyone's got worth. 616 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,960 Who's next? Who is next? 617 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,199 Next is Laura. Yep. 618 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,040 Where is number six? There it is. 619 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Here we go. Laura of Obsessed with Board 620 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,920 Games One of my favourite Origins experiences was running 621 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,840 a demo table at the All Play booth. 622 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,760 I was able to demo things and rings a lot of the time, which 623 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,040 has gotten some attention on social media lately. 624 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,320 People are getting excited about it coming out, and I loved 625 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,840 teaching people. It was so much fun to watch 626 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,000 people come up with theories, to have their minds blown when I 627 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,520 proved their theories wrong and choose whether or not to work 628 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,720 together, to try to figure out what the different rules were 629 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,160 that they were trying to to uncover. 630 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,920 And ultimately, just watching people have fun and connect, 631 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,480 whether they came there as a group or whether they walked up 632 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,200 individually as strangers. Bonding over games is really 633 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,160 what it's all about. Things in rings I mean. 634 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,320 This looks like. Didn't you see it all about veng 635 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,640 diagrams? I've not played before. 636 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480 And it is. Oh, you didn't see it at the 637 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,280 Games Expo? No, must have missed it 638 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,320 completely and I like a veng diagram so looking good. 639 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,960 It's it was interesting. So there was a group of us, 640 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,400 there were four or five of us, and we knew that Laura was 641 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440 working the table. So we waited for her to finish a 642 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000 demo and we all got to we, she got to demo it with us. 643 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,640 It's interesting. It's not for me. 644 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,560 It's it it, it didn't really sing to me. 645 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,320 I was like, OK, great. Yep. 646 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,000 All right. Yeah. 647 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120 What? What fell flat? 648 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,120 Well. I'm not smart enough. 649 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,720 That's just it. So the idea is one of the 650 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:42,040 circles is about the word on your card, one of the circles is 651 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,160 about the attribute of what's on the card, and the other one is 652 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,120 the context under which the card is inserted. 653 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,840 But you don't know. Yeah, you don't know what goes 654 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,240 wrong. You have to work out the rules. 655 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,960 I'm just I'm just reading the the high level summary on Board 656 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,200 Game Geek and. And, and I'm really bad at that. 657 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,360 Sorry. Yeah, I'm the worst. 658 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320 Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'm looking at it. 659 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,040 I mean, I think I'd want to play it. 660 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,280 Laura did a great job. No, that look love Laura to 661 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,840 death. She is absolutely one of the 662 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,800 greatest people ever. She lives in Saint Louis. 663 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120 We try to see her every time we go. 664 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,760 An amazing person, an amazing gamer, and she's a good teacher. 665 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640 She taught that game. I mean, I understand it's not 666 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,000 Uber complex, but it's still she. 667 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,920 She engaged everyone at the table and even though she was 668 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,280 friends with some of us, there were a couple of strangers at 669 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,680 the table. She did not care. 670 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,680 You could see her joy in teaching the game. 671 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,320 I that's what I love about this community is that we get to 672 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,840 share joy in all aspects. It's not just a bunch of people 673 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,080 spending time slinging dice and flipping cards. 674 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,160 You know, I know that sometimes that's the impression on the 675 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,800 outside. That's the impression that our 676 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,960 hobby gets. But this is one of the most 677 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:16,640 intimate experiences, being at a table, opening yourself up and 678 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,720 playing a game and. With Venn diagrams, I mean, 679 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:21,520 that's not. With Venn. 680 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,240 With Venn diagrams. So it's all come crumbling down. 681 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,440 There you go diagrams you try, you try to be, you try to be 682 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200 meaningful and insightful and Gareth just. 683 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,240 Just with Venn diagrams anyway, I have, I have subscribed to see 684 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,520 more, but it's not out in the UK that one isn't out. 685 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:50,560 And then finally, we have Jerry. Jerry Hey, PJ, So good to see 686 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,880 you at Origins again, buddy. So some of my favorite moments 687 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,760 included when our friend Kristen Mott taught us her new game in 688 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,800 Sectarium that's coming out in a few months. 689 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,720 Great to play that game with her and some fellow friends that we 690 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,400 have. Also the time we were all 691 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,440 sitting around a big table playing Danielle Reynolds new 692 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,440 game Caution Signs, which brought so many laughs and and 693 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,080 just so much enjoyment of all the people around us. 694 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,800 A game that stood out to me in particular individually, I know 695 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,440 a lot of people would say SETI and that is just an amazing 696 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,120 looking game, but I'm going to go with a game from smirk and 697 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,520 dagger and that's called hi-fi. This game jumped out at me 698 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,440 because you opened it the box and it looks like an old school, 699 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,480 you know, turntable record player, whatever you want to 700 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,960 call it. And when you turn the record, 701 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,600 that is how you do your action selection. 702 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,000 You are trying to create songs for the B side of a group called 703 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,280 the Meeples, which is kind of a take off of The Beatles. 704 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,680 And even the rule book looks like an old cover of Rolling 705 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Stone, except for instead of Rolling Stone, it's called the 706 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,240 ruling book. So that one looks really, 707 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,280 really, really good. So I'm excited to see that one 708 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:12,840 and just was so great to see all of our fellow friends and gamers 709 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,720 and creators and. Experience Origins for the first 710 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,120 time. I will definitely be back. 711 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,880 Again, what a great summary of the entire episode. 712 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,400 And I mean I've. Never heard of Called Hi-fi 713 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,120 which has also piqued my interest. 714 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,240 Jerry hit. Jerry hit it all. 715 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,400 Yeah, you know, and I didn't pay Jerry to do. 716 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,480 That it was, I mean, yeah, yeah. New games, old games and just 717 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480 again, just of hanging out and playing games with your friends 718 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,520 and how do you know some time? He hit it all. 719 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,640 He hit it all. Did you play Hifi? 720 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,880 I did not. I thought very briefly again, 721 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,840 you're trying to cram everything in one day. 722 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,960 You know, Jerry was, Jerry was working. 723 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,600 Jerry was working it, you know, because you know, his his 724 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,160 platform Tabletop Worldwide, he is killing it. 725 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440 He's got, you know, the followers and the content. 726 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:13,280 I mean, you could tell he's a content creator. 727 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,240 He's so professional. The rest of us, he makes us look 728 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,720 like schlobs, you know? Yeah, I mean, he was just 729 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,240 working meetings, meeting designers, getting behind the 730 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,120 scenes, you know, So I, I, I would have seen hi-fi if I would 731 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,040 have probably done more days. Once again, don't. 732 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,080 Do one day. Don't do it. 733 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,440 So I've got you've gone to get something. 734 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,640 I did. So I promised that I would make 735 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,000 this mention. In closing, this is not Origins. 736 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,160 It was just before Origins. I honestly just reaching out. 737 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,480 I mean, you've heard me say this before. 738 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,480 There's not enough of me to go around and I spend so much time 739 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,720 just connecting with everyone, seeing how they're doing, how's 740 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,880 their health, how's their job, you know, whatever. 741 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:13,400 So I reached out to our friend Tate Wu and he if you remember 742 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,360 Gen. Con last year, we play tested 743 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,840 his game in the stars. That's where I'm sure it's a 744 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,560 Stars game. Yes, it was a role. 745 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,320 Well, for whatever reason, things happened. 746 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,560 He had to abandon that project. He just recently finished a 747 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:37,240 project on Kickstarter called Aqua and he sent me the pocket 748 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,200 version of. Aqua. 749 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:44,080 It's cute. It is it's a two player game by 750 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,760 the way, it is still time you can go to Kickstarter for late 751 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:54,440 pledge Aqua Aqua. It's a set collection game of 752 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,880 art. The publisher is sunrise 753 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,440 Tornado, Sunrise tornado. So check it out. 754 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Check it out, Wu. Yep, it's, it's 18 cards, pack 755 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,840 of 18 cards. You got some visitor tokens 756 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520 because you're going to move around the board. 757 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,800 So you and I are trying to score. 758 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,880 We're playing cards in front of each other and we're we're in 759 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,320 disagreement on our priority of where exhibits should be placed 760 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200 in the museum. I want to score columns, you 761 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,320 want to score rows and you're just trying to put sets together 762 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,720 to score points. I told him that I would, you 763 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,280 know, since he sent me a copy for free, I wasn't even looking 764 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,400 for it. I just, he mentioned that he was 765 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,880 working on Aqua. I looked it up and I'm like, how 766 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,080 did I miss this? I know I'm busy, but so Tate Wu, 767 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:53,560 Sunrise Tornado, Aqua and so Katie and I were playing it in 768 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,240 the open gaming area at Origins Friday morning. 769 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,800 We were waiting for the vendor hall to open and so we're 770 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080 reading the rules and we're playing it for the first time 771 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,040 and you just hear the loud booming voice of our friend 772 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,080 Brian nine to six games and that's it that's and then the 773 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,960 day just took off from there but I wanted to get in Tate when 774 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,720 you're listening thanks again for the game really love it 775 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,360 check it out guys I. Like the artwork, it's 776 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,600 beautiful. I do like really simple games, 777 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,800 which is it's just made-up of 18 cards a game, a game I'd 778 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,600 probably miss, but it looks really interesting. 779 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,920 I like this sort of small pack games. 780 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200 I think you and I think you have a, yeah, perfect travel game. 781 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,320 I think you and Kira would enjoy playing that. 782 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,560 You know, hit the table. You know, you don't want to. 783 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,160 You don't have to scroll out something. 784 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:46,240 There you go. So that, my good friend, was 785 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,760 Origins Game Fair 2024. So what's the next event you've 786 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,840 got? Gen. 787 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,760 Con. Which is August. 788 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,440 So it's 1st to the 4th, but I'm going on the 4th only because 789 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,720 I'm glutton for punishment and I'm the. 790 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,880 Street here in the last day. I think our next one is 791 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,680 Scootcon. So let's slavery near. 792 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,440 That's in Sussex, right? Yes, next time we see friends I 793 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,920 think, but we have got quite a few Instagrams coming up to our 794 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,240 house over the next couple of weekends. 795 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960 Good. Next weekend I will not be here 796 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,960 again because we have the British Grand Prix, but you've 797 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,440 got a plan so you've got you've got something lined up to record 798 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,160 so that is good. So I'm going to give you a 799 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,600 little a week. Afterwards, aren't you? 800 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,560 I'm off because I'm at a work conference, so I won't be 801 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,280 around. Yeah. 802 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,960 So yeah, July and August. Can't you do a special recording 803 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,320 episode there? I mean quite interesting your 804 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,200 whole game. Ball game nights, non gamers. 805 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520 I do. I am. 806 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,560 Are you mixing work with pleasure now? 807 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,840 I'm yes because it's a professional work. 808 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,760 Yeah, yeah. And my wife is the president of 809 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,200 the organization you. Get free pass. 810 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,920 You get free pass. Well, I don't get a free pass. 811 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,720 I do not, you know, I don't get a free pass at all. 812 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,560 No, indeed. But I will plug real quick. 813 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,760 So check out next week's episode. 814 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,920 I am going to be interviewing the designer of an upcoming game 815 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:17,200 called Prestige where I personally wrote some of the 816 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,440 event cards that are in the game and you'll hear us talk about 817 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,480 it. So that's going to be fun. 818 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,480 I've written like, are you kidding me? 819 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,040 A game is coming to Kickstarter and I wrote some of the content 820 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,880 for it. What? 821 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,600 See. Look at you grow. 822 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200 I know, I know. Look at me. 823 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,880 I can't. I can't hear to hear Origin to 824 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440 hear. Gencom Next. 825 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,440 Oh, that'll be, that's coming up. 826 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,360 We'll see how that goes. Now we're going to have to 827 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,400 figure out what we're going to do because that's a Sunday and 828 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,360 that's usually the day that we actually record. 829 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,040 Yeah. And then after that I'm away for 830 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,840 two weeks. Guys, we need. 831 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,440 Backup. Because I'm we need backup. 832 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,400 I'm not in the country, so we're going to need some. 833 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,040 Backup So this is summertime. Summertime, Yeah, OK, here it 834 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,480 is. It's like this UK chat shows 835 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,680 when the normal host gone holiday and everyone could take 836 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600 over the show. In fact, both of us have holiday 837 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,280 and that some people will just take over. 838 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,640 That would. I think that's your goal, right? 839 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,600 So DM us and then you can be summer hosts. 840 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,720 Summer hosts. PJ, thank you for sharing your 841 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:29,680 origins recap was it That's what episode was called that's. 842 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,240 It Yeah. I have spent some money because 843 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:37,360 there's now only two copies left of Sirens, so that's on its way. 844 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,080 I thought it'd be great for the Grand Prix. 845 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,080 No, that's. Perfect. 846 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,920 Perfect evenings, Summer nights looks like it might rain, so 847 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,400 that may not be so good. You know, you know what would be 848 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,760 good when the Grand Prix is awkward. 849 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,080 Yeah, that's, that won't get here in time, like 3 days to go. 850 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,720 So with that, thanks everyone for listening and we will speak 851 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,440 to you again soon. Thanks everyone for listening, 852 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,760 please subscribe and as always, we'd love to hear your thoughts 853 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,480 and ideas, so make sure to leave those in the comments and don't 854 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,520 forget you can also chat with us both on Instagram at Meeple to 855 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,120 Meeple.