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Welcome to Maple to me, people 
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A 30-minute exploration of PJ 

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and Gareth ball. 
Game experiences from across 

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themes games, hot topics and 

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much much more hey and welcome 
to episode 33 board game shop in

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Focus today. 
We're here with Nick at Titan 

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games Springfield our Topic is 
used games game trades. 

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You name it. 
I'm PJ. 

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I'm Gareth and we are glad we're
glad you're with us today. 

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So how are you guys - how you 
been? 

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It's been a week since I've seen
you. 

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It's been good last week's 
episodes who was fantastic. 

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We had really good response. 
So I've seen did since, since he

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has coped, well with that Fame 
and stardom that comes with chat

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into the You sometimes me, I 
think. 

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I think she wants to be a 
regular on the show. 

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He does. 
Yeah, she does. 

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Yeah. 
So but then I'm looking forward 

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to hearing more about Titan 
games and listening to Nick and 

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trying to sneak around I guess 
game sales, trading sales, cause

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we haven't got, I don't know of 
a game store in the UK. 

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That allows you to go in and 
trade games. 

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Really? 
That interesting. 

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I do my training either on face 
book or like a game conventions.

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Bring them by Exhales. 
So I'd like to know more. 

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I have suggested this idea to a 
couple of friend local game 

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stores and they looked at me as 
if I was crazy. 

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So let's see, whether Nick is 
crazy and makes it work. 

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Yeah. 
So we figured that we'd invite 

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Nick, he's a local game store, 
owner and operator. 

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Is that the right term Nick? 
Own operating? 

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Yeah. 
Um and we thought it'd be great 

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to have you on to talk about 
this topic, but I figured, let's

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let's begin real. 
Quick question is, how do 

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Started in the hobby. 
Like, what was your first game? 

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And how did you get into this? 
Sure. 

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So there's kind of two starts in
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One was when I was, you know, in
my 10 from like 10 to 13 in that

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range. 
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couple games one of those Bean 
Battle Masters, which PJ, and I 

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have actually gotten to play 
once which is kind of crazy and 

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also playing a lot of D&D with 
friends, in a one of our buddies

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basements. 
But then, as I got in high 

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school and college, I kind of 
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Away from it a little bit. 
And then when I got out of 

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college started working and 
doing different things, I had a 

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group of friends that started 
playing Catan regularly, so that

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sort of brought me back into the
fold really quickly. 

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And then I got involved with 
X-wing miniatures game and a 

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number of other things. 
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events at our local store and 
shortly after that, they were 

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asking me to come on as an owner
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The rest is history. 
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And how long have you been 
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So Had our Springfield location.
Now for eight years, I've 

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actually been with a company 
about nine years and the 

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champagne store is celebrating 
their 10th anniversary this 

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year. 
How many how many locations do 

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you got? 
All right? 

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Now, just the two champagne in 
Springfield. 

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Yep. 
Ten years. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, that does not look like it

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has been that long at all, and 
you've had to put up with me for

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the last five. 
So I'm sorry about that among 

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many other people. 
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And what well what's the, what 
the components of the other 

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store. 
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pretty much thought or some now 
have a cafe with, with the way 

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you can rent and play board 
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Was it a pure store or is it 
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So yeah, I know this can vary 
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Yeah, not only within the us but
obviously overseas to where our 

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locations are specifically 
retail Plus Play Space. 

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So we do a certain amount of 
event management & event running

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for different games but it is 
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So but we do have the play Space
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If not all of the games that we 
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What's the most popular game in 
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games? 
Or is it like magic the 

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Gathering or? 
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So we do a lot of Magic the 
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It's a very casual crowd at our 
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is kind of nice and fun and its 
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Way. 
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big board game night actually. 
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board game night. 
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consistently every week. 
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that play Dungeons & Dragons or 
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throughout the week as well. 
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one. 
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probably our board game night 
though, cool, and them compete 

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with just bring their own games,
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Got a pool game Library. 
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gate demo games that people can 
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well. 
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in these rotations, where will 
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bringing in their own games, and
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kind of playing the games out of
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more into the hobby, the people 
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start buying their own games, 
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bring. 
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that starts play it out of the 
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Cycles back and forth. 
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he's every child used to playing
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nights. 
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an open night for anybody to 
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It's a store still open, so I 
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So, let's just stop oven for 
retail. 

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Yes. 
Cool. 

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Guess what? 
That's always the danger. 

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That's a really cool game. 
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And do you do food and food and 
drink or people bring their own?

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So we do not do any food and 
drink. 

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is in we're in the state of 
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There's some very specific 
guidelines for writing drink 

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establishments which is End of 
an area that we don't have the 

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expertise and we're just not 
willing to kind of like dip our 

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toe in and mess it up. 
And all the sudden we've got all

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the state agencies all over us 
to deal with it. 

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We're just not going to mess 
with that bird went away. 

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Yeah, simple, awesome. 
So PJ said that mentioned to me 

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that you guys do secondhand game
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So how does how does that work? 
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weekend per year at each of our 
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So we do kind of a spring that 
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one at our champagne store. 
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understands the difference are 
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a half drive away from each 
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It's about 100 miles or so. 
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that like you're probably not 
popping over for the day. 

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Yeah but you know for a big 
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for the day is not a big deal. 
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six years ago. 
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longer than that. 
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opportunity for a lot of our 
regular customers that buy games

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from us regularly to kind of go 
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And say, you know what, I really
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that are a lot like other games 
that I want to buy that maybe 

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have a better theme or just 
found their way out of my 

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regular rotation and it's a good
way for them to kind of cash 

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those games in for store credit 
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they do actually want coming 
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So and it's also a great 
opportunity for people that are 

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maybe newer to the Obby to pick 
up some games that, you know, 

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maybe it's been out for ten 
years but they're new to the 

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Hobby. 
Haven't played it yet. 

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It's a good game at a good price
and they can take it home and 

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get started with that. 
Look at one of the questions 

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I've been asking me to leave. 
It talks about a seven here is 

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been knowing whether the games 
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Do you do a check or is there 
any conditions that that is 

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consistent concern? 
I guess is probably the best way

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to put it but as part of our 
seller sign up, you are 

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essentially affirming that all 
of your game pieces are there 

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and complete. 
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because interest in the five or 
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And literally like the day after
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the game was like I was going 
through other stuff and I found 

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these cards. 
Can you get them to whoever 

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bought it? 
It's like, yeah, we can do that.

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Like that's not a problem. 
So don't even notice. 

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It's not. 
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Percy the board gamer. 
I look after my games and Emily 

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stuff doesn't go missing. 
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like cards from an expansion 
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But the, you know, the original 
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everything kind of fit in the 
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Inbox. 
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that were promo cards or 
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those. 
Like it wasn't even necessary 

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components to the game but of 
stuff that went with the games 

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they wanted to make sure the new
person got it reminds me of my 

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sold some games on Facebook and 
I think it was Lords of 

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waterdeep and the expansion but 
they were, there were some cards

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mixed up and I saw both games 
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sizes said, hey guys, this then,
Each other actually it works its

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way it worked out, okay? 
But I guess sending it a games 

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convention, you just don't know 
who's taking it and that would 

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have been would have been a bit 
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So I learnt my lesson at that 
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advantage that if we did ever 
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somewhere a buyer took home, a 
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missing components or something 
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We do have a registered list of 
all the owners of exactly who 

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had sold that game. 
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So we can immediately just Say, 
you know what, it wasn't 

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complete will do a refund or 
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See if they happen to know where
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So we've got a way to track that
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If any buyers have any issues 
with stuff and nice. 

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Look, luckily, all of our buyers
are essentially from yellow cool

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in our local community. 
So it's not a like, you know, we

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got to track this person down 
states away to try and find him 

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and get this stuff. 
It's usually just a matter of 

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the Facebook message or a quick 
call saying hey you happen to 

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know what happened. 
This and then he on with it, you

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know. 
So so so Nick in the community 

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of retailers in the US and he 
way more for our friends 

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overseas on our listeners. 
So you notice that not every 

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game store in the US, has a used
game sale specifically. 

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Like Titan, does, what goes in 
that process for you and the use

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game sale and maybe some of your
other retail owners who choose 

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to do? 
Ooh, a different type of, you 

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know what I'm saying? 
A different form of used game 

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trade, sure. 
So, there are some stores in the

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US that have like permanent used
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a whole different beast in and 
of itself depending on how they 

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have it set up. 
We've opted for this once-a-year

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thing partially. 
So it is kind of a special event

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and it's also kind of spaced out
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at least is kind of early in the
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Simply because we realized that 
a lot of the big news for 

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releases kind of comes out first
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the announcements will, so then 
people can kind of be planning. 

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Okay, I've got to make room in 
my collection for this stuff 

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that I definitely want to get 
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So it gives everybody that 
opportunity to make some room in

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their collection early in the 
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And then, as those things 
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gencon, it Origins wherever 
whatever they're going to do 

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with it. 
There's room for them in the 

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collection already to be back. 
Bill did so nice and at the same

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time, all the games they got, 
you know, over Christmas 

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holidays Thanksgiving. 
All those ones. 

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They couldn't quite fit in 
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They know what game they want to
pull out. 

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It's time to get it out of 
there. 

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So, yeah, I think I guess I did 
the same with, with you to the 

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UK games Expo, which is the end 
of May June. 

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I just stay all just stack up. 
I can see him looking at me now 

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and I take I take them and then 
dump them for the weekend. 

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I guess I've got control on my 
pricing. 

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Where's you guys? 
How does your, how does your 

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price of mechanics work? 
So the only things that we 

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regulate pricing on in our use 
game sale are games that we 

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specifically like have on the 
Shelf. 

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Okay, so it's one of those like 
if we have Pandemic on the shelf

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for 50 bucks and you want to 
sell your used copy for 45, does

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that make sense for anybody? 
Yeah, they're what. 

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Yeah, you know. 
So it's fair, we just with those

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games, you have to be no more 
than 50% of MSRP. 

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Which is it's a decent discount 
that you're getting to use Game 

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even if you could get a new one 
for ya that. 

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But if I put in a now have to 
bring game, yeah, that's totally

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up to you. 
He's close it for whatever you 

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want to. 
I do tell people on out of print

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stuff like that, it's kind of 
Hit or Miss year to year. 

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What can fires were going to 
have? 

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There have been years that I 
watched one guy, walk around one

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year, literally pick up every 
game that I'm like, oh, I 

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learned about that one this 
year. 

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I learned about that one this 
year, that's really expensive 

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and you Like I spent a couple 
hundred bucks on games that are 

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just hard to find. 
Yeah, but then we've also had 

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other years where there's a 
number of those games that are 

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hard to find kind of unobtainium
things and they just sit there 

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like they're at a reasonable 
price but there's just not 

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somebody interested in. 
So it's kind of Hit or Miss. 

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But yeah, if it's out of print 
that is totally up to you what 

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you want to do, I always tell 
people, you know, the more 

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aggressively price. 
It the more likely it is. 

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This is my Approach. 
I see people who games in at 

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Crazy Prices. 
Yes, Little Bear Down on the 

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Sun. 
And a whereas I yourself to 

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clear, but as long as you have, 
you know, it's not about making 

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a profit. 
It's about. 

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Okay. 
What you think on the, the 

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individual sellers have 
different motivations like there

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are legitimately some people 
that I know in our community 

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that Collecting trade games, 
kind of as a hobby. 

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Yeah, so for some of them it's 
like they're willing to put a 

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game in @x price and if it 
doesn't sell their totally fine 

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with that, they'll keep it or 
sell it somewhere else, will do 

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whatever they want to do with 
it. 

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But there's other people that 
are just like if I get five 

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bucks for each of these, I'm 
fine. 

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You know, they just want out of 
the house. 

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So that's something else we 
started doing. 

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Maybe the second or third year, 
as we gave people the option, 

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because our sale runs Saturday 
and Sunday, if your game does 

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not, L on Saturday, you have the
option for Sunday to price it at

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half of what you had it is that 
okay? 

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Or you can make it a dollar and 
the reason I woke up with that 

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is, you know we had a lot of 
like medium and small games that

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were in the in the sale for like
five bucks and it's like, so if 

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you go half of five that's $2 
like, why do you just want it 

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gone? 
Let's Make a Deal for everybody 

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and get it out of here. 
And if it doesn't sell, they 

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come and collect them on the 
Monday. 

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Is that that's correct. 
Whenever people pick up their 

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games that didn't sell well 
issue, their store credit to 

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them, or if all their games 
cell, which is always fun. 

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I just get to send them a 
message and say, your store 

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credits on there and sold. 
Yeah. 

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It's um, it's a really great. 
Yeah, it's a great opportunity 

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because we get the store credit.
When my wife and I when we sell 

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it tighten, we take that money 
at store credit so that we can 

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get like our painting supplies 
and other things for you. 

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Like all the frost Haven minis. 
Yeah, we have to paint. 

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It's a really great opportunity 
and I think that that's one of 

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the beauties of these use game 
sales. 

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I think, do you find other 
customers they they see that 

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value. 
It's not just, you know, I'm 

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getting store credit but that it
really, it fills back into 

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other, you know, like adjacent 
gaming things, oh, for sure. 

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And it's interesting to see kind
of what people decide to spend 

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their board game money on to 
does it does that credit turn 

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into new board games or does it 
turn into role-playing? 

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Books that have turned pains to 
turn into different hobby 

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sectors that we do support as 
well. 

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So it's always interesting to 
see somebody that's number of 

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times. 
I've worked with sellers that 

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are kind of families and they 
have like a group of games that 

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their kids would play with them 
but now they're kids have kind 

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of outgrown those games. 
So they're clearing this one's 

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out so they can kind of get the 
next batch of games in that 

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their kids will play with them. 
Yeah I'm PJ if you to use every 

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is that one of his a kind of key
weekends It is so. 

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So Kailyn. 
I've already pulled out the 

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games for the sale and with Gen 
Con now it's like so whatever we

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don't sell will sell a Gen Con 
in the summertime. 

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So it's kind of a, you know, I 
mean, it's a great program, I 

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loved it, I loved it. 
Nick's able to do this, it's 

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pretty fantastic. 
Yeah, I think sighs things that 

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if it was nearby like you say 
within a half hour, 45 minute 

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drive There is one just to 
important restriction of South 

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Coast who do something, but I 
always find out about it the day

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before, and it's yes, yeah, too 
late. 

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I'm got time to organize myself 
that you can drop off and then 

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it's there for, like I think 
it's just the few like six 

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hours. 
It's like during the daytime. 

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Oh wow, it's really tight. 
So yeah, I think I can see the 

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benefit because taking 
everything to Birmingham, which 

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is two hour drive, and then 
you've got lug it in and queue 

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up for an hour, two hours, and 
then I guess there's an app that

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you Back where it's gone too but
I do like the idea of being a 

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yeah. 
See every 6 months or 12 months 

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being able to just cycle through
a notable games and just click 

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just clear the space its space 
isn't the problem I have. 

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Yeah that's that's the money is 
the it's yeah it's the slaw 

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space bases. 
The reason a lot of my personal 

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games are going into this hill 
this year because we've got some

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more kids on the way and with 
that we're in a house that 

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doesn't have a ton of room. 
So we have to be very particular

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About what games were actually 
keeping and which ones are 

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getting out of the way, so we 
can have more stuff. 

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So I think it's, I think it's 
twofold. 

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So for us space obviously, I 
think that everyone's issue 

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right is space. 
The other 12 is what, gets 3 

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points, the games that just 
don't hit the table, right? 

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Yes. 
An opportunity to get rid of 

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them and it never fails. 
Particularly the last year. 

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We found Grand Austria hotel 
which has been on my wish list 

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forever out of print we managed 
to find It. 

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And then, you know, like there 
was Murano. 

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We found that at your sales last
year and that was like I didn't 

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even know what that was, but it 
was out of print, that was 

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amazing. 
And, you know, now it's when it 

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hits the table at least once a 
month. 

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It's great. 
So I really like this idea and 

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what it does for the Hobby and 
it keeps it going, you know? 

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So yeah. 
And she have a say, in the UK, 

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we have very active School, UK 
ball games trading and chat on 

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Facebook. 
And that is, there's a few 

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others, but this is the main 
one. 

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So it's a chat is to chat group,
but that it's a lot of trading, 

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very trusted well-organized. 
You got those kind of things in 

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the US or the EU s just too big.
To be at I would say yes and no 

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in like those groups do exist. 
But I do think that the 

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geographic limitations of it in 
the u.s. also play into that a 

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little bit. 
I mean, I'm sure that multiple 

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regions communities do have that
kind of stuff specifically set 

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up. 
However, I don't believe there's

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one where we are necessarily but
I could be completely wrong 

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that. 
Yeah, no, didn't I? 

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That's neat. 
A lot of folks in the u.s. do or

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Game Geek trades or math trades 
and all that kind of stuff. 

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But I'm just not super familiar 
with that aspect of the, the 

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trading lending. 
Yeah, borrowing and stealing 

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section of. 
So things will Pool Game Geek. 

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I have never traded, and then, 
as for maths trade math trades, 

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I have investigated. 
I've looked at them, I've never 

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done one, but anyone listening 
would like to educate me on how 

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they work? 
Because I've been told by it's 

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quite nice. 
Active Instagram group in the 

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UK, who they all seem. 
Now I've gotten boarded 

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masquerades, and they're saying 
it's easy, but I think it's just

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it's like once you learn to swim
or you had to matter trade is 

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your done, but they always look 
so intimidating. 

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It's one of those things like 
conceptually understand how its 

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best work. 
I just don't think I've ever 

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taken that step to be like, 
okay, let's try this. 

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Yeah, you know, yeah, I think 
it's just that. 

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Yeah. 
Just he's just sitting and 

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vending get an hour just going, 
right? 

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It's this how you do it. 
I think it's relatively easy but

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it just requires a bit more 
thinking time like you say just 

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yeah. 
So I need to try I'm a traitor. 

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Maybe another another 
opportunity, I mean the other 

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advantage to how we do it in our
story. 

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Anytime you do those online 
trades, you're going to have 

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shipping evolved with some. 
Yeah. 

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And as we all know most board 
games aren't the lightest things

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in the world, the ship. 
So you're easily looking at, you

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know, seven to ten bucks to 
ship. 

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Yeah, even a small game really. 
So I think as those rates have 

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gone up, it's made it a little 
more difficult to do that stuff 

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for a little harder to justify 
it. 

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Versus drop them off at your 
local store. 

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Have them for the weekend. 
They're done. 

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That is the appeal. 
Who are you saying the tenth of 

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said before the conventions? 
Yep. 

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Same time. 
Having boxes in the house, 

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having peanuts, and packaging 
material. 

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What? 
I know when I sell things on the

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same, the Facebook group, I 
might put up 50 games to sell 

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and that's it. 
That's my, that's my weekend. 

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Ruins, not really. 
That's what you're doing. 

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All you're doing is answering 
and people are trying to trying 

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to negotiate and usually work 
out this person. 

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B first, that's the first five 
hours and then it's like, oh, 

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now I need to see and package 
everything up. 

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Oh my God, another three or 
four. 

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I was so so. 
Well I guess it, I guess. 

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I don't I'm not giving. 
I'm taking all the money for 

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yourself. 
I got cuffs or packaging to do 

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the time allowance that you have
to put in again turning up. 

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Somewhere here. 
They all are and then I guess 

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you guys take you guys take a 
percentage of the sale. 

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Yes so welcome, anybody who 
sells their game if it sells 

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they'll get 90% of the Hill 
price and still read it. 

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Yeah. 
Same as the Expo takes a second.

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Most of that's because we allow 
people to pay using like credit 

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Cards debit cards, whatever they
want to do. 

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So, there are some fees involved
with, yeah, as well. 

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Some hours by our employees, to 
just get everything set up and 

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ready to go. 
He says cool about having a 

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stand permanently install. 
We've actually discussed it a 

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number of times, and there's 
kind of two different ways to go

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about doing it. 
One of them is essentially 

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having a consignment area, for 
lack of better terms, and the 

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other way is for the store to 
straight out by the game. 

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Yeah, I'm whoever selling them 
and just have them in that you 

452
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:51,100
Section there are benefits and 
attractions from both sides of 

453
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:55,400
it. 
And I think a combination of 

454
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,600
Just need any more information 
on them in general. 

455
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800
And also having some space 
limitations within the store 

456
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,600
where we are already has made it
difficult for us to do just yet.

457
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,700
It is something we've talked 
about, for probably the last two

458
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or three years and then we also 
on top of that discuss, you 

459
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,300
know, if we do have a permanent 
section, how is that different 

460
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:20,100
than this twice a year? 
Special sale that we do is 

461
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:22,500
there, is there a perk to doing 
one over the other. 

462
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,000
So we've been trying to Look at 
all the options and balance out 

463
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,300
how a permanent section might 
work in our store. 

464
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,300
And I think we've got a fairly 
good concept. 

465
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:36,000
We want to kind of get through 
this year and see ya if the 

466
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,300
balance is right, and if we can 
make it work but the other part 

467
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:41,100
of it is it's kind of fun just 
to have these two weeks. 

468
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:42,800
Yeah. 
Where it's, it's crazy. 

469
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,700
And we think from the second 
year on here, in Springfield on 

470
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:52,700
Saturday morning, at least an 
hour before the store opens, 

471
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:54,800
there's a line down to the end 
of the love. 

472
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,500
It will just just ready to jump 
in there and grab the game. 

473
00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:01,600
So it's sort of hearing under 
the window, right? 

474
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,900
I see the game, I want on that 
table and I'm going to get, I 

475
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,700
said, can you people drop off 
before, so I can drop off 

476
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:12,100
happens, starting this coming, 
Saturday, through the Wednesday,

477
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:15,000
before the weekend. 
So we then have two days in 

478
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,800
store to process all the games, 
get everything tag, ready to go.

479
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,600
And then, that Saturday will be 
the first day of the sale 

480
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,700
itself. 
Um, so give us the dates and the

481
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,500
information Now, while we're 
talking about that, if you were 

482
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:32,000
so the first day for drop off is
I got a double check this real 

483
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,100
quick, that would be March. 25th
is the first day for drop-offs 

484
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:40,700
the last day to drop off your 
games would be March 29th and 

485
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:45,000
then the sale is April 1st and 
2nd, Saturday and Sunday. 

486
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,300
What time? 
What time does the doors? 

487
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:50,000
Open doors? 
Open at noon and Saturday will 

488
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,100
be open till 7:00 and then 
someday is noon to 5:00 awesome.

489
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:58,500
You got that. 
Gareth, if only I wasn't having 

490
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:03,800
any hours away, the convince TJ 
to stop in the store and do a 

491
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,300
little video chat while you're 
eating. 

492
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:07,400
Yeah. 
You to a lot into that live. 

493
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,700
It's Instagram life like we did 
last year. 

494
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Yeah, we did that last year. 
Do we do that the night before 

495
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600
when you were helping set up? 
PJ we did we did. 

496
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

497
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,000
So yeah. 
The night before the sale so 

498
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,700
Friday night after we've kind of
set everything up, we usually do

499
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,800
a little walk around video 
member. 

500
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:28,000
Yeah. 
I didn't even think about this, 

501
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,200
I thought it was just kind of a,
you know, a nice way to show 

502
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,200
people. 
Like there's a lot of games this

503
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,900
sale and like, the next day, the
first three people in line had 

504
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,400
mapped out in their head, just 
from watching the video like 

505
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,300
where exactly that game is that 
they want and they knew, as soon

506
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:47,700
as the door opened the hood, go 
to that spot, pick the game up 

507
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,000
and check it out. 
And there was just thinking the 

508
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,700
same, I think any says, yes this
gives me Prime in Prime in 

509
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,100
sight. 
Or Intel. 

510
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000
Oh yeah, into whether go pretty 
well, I'll make sure that I do 

511
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,600
that for you and you can watch 
it. 

512
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,200
And then yeah, send me a message
or be like, hey, I want this 

513
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,400
game and then did the seventy 
dollars to ship it to the UK, 

514
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,400
right? 
Or until you visit or I visit 

515
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,400
you. 
I think I think if you remember 

516
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:16,500
like Nick you could answer this 
one of our friends on Instagram,

517
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,100
actually reached out to you last
year about games for the use 

518
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:25,000
game sale. 
I think it was one, was it? 

519
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,200
I think it was one of our 
friends in Poland. 

520
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,400
Yeah. 
Okay, yeah, yeah. 

521
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Now all of our listeners, know 
exactly who were talking. 

522
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,700
Yeah, whoo. 
Yeah, yeah. 

523
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,200
So, but I think the shipping was
cost prohibitive. 

524
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,400
Right. 
Yeah, I bet it is. 

525
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:42,600
Yeah, it was gonna be a little 
rough. 

526
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,100
Again, board games are not light
item. 

527
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:48,100
No, no, no, shipping is not 
cheap. 

528
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800
And at that point, we were kind 
of at the height of the really 

529
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,600
crazy shit course. 
He's yeah. 

530
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Do so that was definitely not 
helping out with that. 

531
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,700
Yeah, but you're not opposed. 
You would be willing if any of 

532
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,400
our listeners wanted to try to 
order something from you. 

533
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,200
Yeah, I don't think we're 
putting it online this year. 

534
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,700
Okay. 
This run into too many issues or

535
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,600
potential issues. 
Where as a retailer we have 

536
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,600
minimum advertisers pricing 
requirements. 

537
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:18,200
Yeah, and buy some of those 
agreements. 

538
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Even a used game, which we do 
not technically own. 

539
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,500
If we are advertising it for 
sale would put Pus in default of

540
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:30,400
that agreement. 
So just to alleviate any of 

541
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,400
those issues. 
I think this year we're not 

542
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,200
going to do any online. 
Just again to keep it simple for

543
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,100
everybody and we still typically
see between 65 and 80, percent 

544
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:42,700
of the game, sell them any given
year. 

545
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:46,600
So it's it's really nuts than 
the a crazy weekend for 

546
00:27:46,608 --> 00:27:48,200
everybody but it's a lot of fun 
too. 

547
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,100
I love it. 
I wish, yeah. 

548
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,200
I look forward to seeing that. 
PJ what you pick up and what? 

549
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:56,700
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Okay. 

550
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Anything else? 
PJ you want to cover? 

551
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,500
No, that's that's a bit. 
You have any questions for us? 

552
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:02,100
Nick? 
Anything. 

553
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:03,900
We ask. 
No, just thanks for doing the 

554
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,100
podcast. 
I've been I don't get to listen 

555
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,500
every week but usually, when I 
make a trip to the champagne, 

556
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,600
sir I can catch up on three or 
four episodes at once, and the 

557
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,000
usually works out really nice 
for us. 

558
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400
Well, thanks for listening. 
Why don't you go ahead and give 

559
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
us those dates and times one 
more time for our listeners just

560
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,600
in case they miss me. 
Drop off starts March 25th and 

561
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,000
runs through March 29th and then
the sale itself is happening 

562
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,900
April 1st and April s of 2023. 
Perfect perfect. 

563
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,100
Probably do that. 
Walk around video Friday, the 

564
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,000
31st. 
Yeah so that everybody can plan 

565
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800
out where they're going Saturday
morning, first thing. 

566
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Yeah, amazing awesome. 
Awesome potency in it. 

567
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:46,800
Where can our listeners find you
on all the social media 

568
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,100
platforms? 
Sure, taking games. 

569
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,700
On Facebook or websites. 
Tekken games online. 

570
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,000
There should be a header that 
links you to all the info you 

571
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600
need for these game sales. 
Far sellers, or buyers is 

572
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800
concerned. 
If you have any other questions 

573
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,300
you can always email Us 
Springfield at Titan. 

574
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,800
Games.com cool, cool. 
Well, thanks Nick. 

575
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
This is great. 
Thanks for coming on and talking

576
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,200
about game trades and use game 
sales and an opportunity to plug

577
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,300
your sale. 
We're always there every year 

578
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,700
and we love it. 
So I'm really surprised we fit 

579
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:20,100
it into, you know, half an hour.
Our when this could have been a 

580
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:23,100
three-day conversations laughs 
tradeworks. 

581
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,900
Yeah, I've got milk ice about 
how to run this game still, but 

582
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,300
maybe that's a different episode
that's that is a month long 

583
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,200
conversation. 
Yeah. 

584
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,500
So I thank you for joining us 
and good luck with your game 

585
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,000
sale. 
Thank you for looking forward to

586
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
it. 
Thanks everyone for listening. 

587
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Please Subscribe. 
And as always, we love to hear 

588
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,500
your thoughts and ideas. 
So make sure to leave those in 

589
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:49,600
the comments and don't forget, 
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590
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,100
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