1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Hey guys and welcome to episode 145 of meatball to meatball. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,960 It is episode 2 of my new content creator series, as 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,480 always, building community with everyone across the world. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,600 Today I have joining me for a conversation is an individual 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,200 who's not only known as being a phenomenal board game content 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,720 creator, but she's probably more known for her powerful 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,440 creativity, her crafting skills, and more importantly, her 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,360 cosplay. Today I have Rachel from Miss 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,240 Kitty cosplay Rachel, how are you? 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Hello. I'm doing great. 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,880 Thank you for having me on today. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,840 Thanks for joining. I guess I should also mention 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:55,400 that you are the social media community manager extraordinaire 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,400 of Queen Games. Yes, I do all of their content 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,440 creation and and all that jazz. So you manage your own creation 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,320 and Queens that's. That a lot of times they, they 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,280 are intertwined. I do share a lot of queen stuff 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,480 on my personal page, just because if I'm in it, I might, 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,240 yeah. You got it. 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,720 You got to put yourself out there, right? 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Yeah, yeah. And we needed to put a face on 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,120 some of our stuff. You only want to look at board 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 game pieces for so long. You need to know who you're 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,160 talking to. The community wants to like, 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,520 feel the human aspect of it and know that they're not true. 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Bought response. You know, hey, it's me, please 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 be nice. That is absolutely true, right? 28 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:41,160 That that trend happened. I think it was post COVID when 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,080 that happened. You'd start people, they would 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,120 take a picture with the box and then they would take pictures of 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,080 the game components, right? Yeah, I I remember when that 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 happened. So let me ask you this starting 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,920 question. What was the first board game 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,960 that you ever played as a child? As a child, that would be the 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,479 Pokémon board game that came out in like 2000, 2001. 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,680 OK, yeah. And do you still, do you still 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,640 play Pokémon stuff regularly? No. 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 I love Pokémon. I love the whole franchise. 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,480 It is near and dear to my heart. I was a Pokémon card collector 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,760 in kindergarten. That was my jam. 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,320 I've got lots of Pokémon plushies and all the fun stuff, 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,560 but no, I don't. I don't play the games. 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 So what about what was the game that got you into what we call 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,360 the modern game hobby, right? Copenhagen, yeah. 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,480 So that is a queen game. Yep. 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Not a coincidence there. And it's the polyomino tiles and 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,840 you're building the facade on the front of the buildings. 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,800 It's a it's a really, really lightweight game and that is 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,640 what got me into this world. Copenhagen. 50 00:02:56,920 --> 00:03:00,920 So what was it about that particular game in out of all 51 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:04,800 of, I mean, yeah, of course all board games, but all of Queen's 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,960 collection, like how did you get introduced to Copenhagen? 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Honestly, Travis Reynolds put it in front of me and told me to 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,720 learn it because it was one of the easier ones. 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,440 And then I am into cosplay and cosplay is what got me into the 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,400 conventions. And then the convention got me 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,680 an opportunity. I was asked to demo some games 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,160 at the Queen booth. I've never been to Origins Game 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,920 Fair before and I had no idea what I was getting into. 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,800 And I was like, OK, well give me the easiest game possible 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,800 because I'm nervous about teaching other people. 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,520 And they put Copenhagen in front of me. 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 It had just come out. I was obsessed with the 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,320 polyomino tiles. I played the deluxe edition with 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,040 the acrylic ones. You know, you can hold the 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,360 window, it was up and see through them. 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,480 It was was gorgeous. It was, it did and it was 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,440 addicting. And I was on such a roll. 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,880 I mean, it was like I had this like gaming high from explaining 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 it. I had gotten my my little pitch 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,360 together on how to work through it. 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,600 I made a script for myself and I could get through that game and 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,760 have tables turn in, you know, a couple every couple minutes. 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 I got really good at it. And then I was like, maybe I 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,280 like board games, I want to play more. 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,360 And that was really like the first modern like hobby game I 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,839 had played. You know, I played some things 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,640 growing up like Monopoly and, and even Risk and stuff like 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,160 that. But we don't have a gaming 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,760 community here. I live in a very rural 81 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,480 Appalachian area where we don't have game stores and that kind 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,960 of thing. Lately we have been getting some 83 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,480 trading card shops, which is amazing just to see something, 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,640 but there's still nothing actually near me. 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,680 I have to drive a couple hours to get to somebody who was 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,200 willing to play a game with me and I'll do it. 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,520 But Copenhagen was my introduction to this community 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,320 and it has really, like changed my life for the better. 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,240 So that was origins? What? 90 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,640 What year was that do you recall? 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,840 I'm gonna say 2018. OK, OK. 92 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:06,840 Cuz I was demoing with Queen for a year or two before the 93 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,520 pandemic hit. OK. 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Cuz then we had the shutdown. So my question is, so it's 2018, 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:20,600 you have fallen in love with Copenhagen and the concept of 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,880 tabletop board gaming. So you go back home, what next? 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,440 What like did you just? You got to get on the Internet 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,720 and like learn what else is out there. 99 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,280 You've got to meet other people that are into the same thing. 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,840 Because I don't just delete Abby with a hobby. 101 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,560 If I'm going to do it, I'm going all the way in all in. 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,320 So it is I want to buy all the games I want to play everything 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,560 I can get my hands on. And I the first thing I did was 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,960 like start looking up board game hashtags on Instagram and 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,040 watching YouTube videos and, and following people trying to 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,160 figure out like, well, if this is good, what else is out there? 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,520 What is similar to this? Maybe I want to go a step 108 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,840 harder. Yeah. 109 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,360 So you didn't just like decide to go through the whole line of 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 the product line of Queen games. You kind of you embrace the 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,040 whole industry. Yeah, and I love Queen games, 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,120 but I, I didn't want to lift myself to one thing. 113 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 And with Queen, it's not like all of the games in their 114 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,080 catalog are the same, you know, they're very, very drastically 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 different, different designers and that kind of thing. 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,400 So I wanted to just taste a little from every company. 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,080 And so I have a really decent sized collection now. 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,960 I say decent size because you know, there's there's people out 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,880 there with with more in our community. 120 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 But I have a lot of games and I've played even more games. 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,680 So what kind of challenges were them? 122 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 I mean, obviously the fact that there's no one around, like how 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,240 did, I'm just trying to wonder how you managed to if you have 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,920 no one to play with because you said you're in a rural area 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,920 where there's no one around. I mean, are you just driving 2 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,360 hours just in all directions where people live as close to 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,480 you or are people coming to you? Did you, did you, did you only 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,200 play games in person at conventions for a year or two? 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,640 How did that look? What did that look like? 130 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Actually started a local board game club. 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,320 So there's a, a barcade, a bar arcade here locally that opened 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,440 up at Pullman in Huntington, Pullman Square in Huntington, WV 133 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,200 and I started hosting board game nights there. 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,680 So I was really into pinball and some of the antique like arcade 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 cabinets. I was always, always in there 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 anyways because I love gaming just in general, any kind of 137 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,280 gaming. It's not just board games for 138 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,360 me, but I was in there all the time and I was like, I'm going 139 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,600 to start bringing in board games. 140 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,760 And then people would sit with me and then we made it a thing 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,160 where they actually like hired me to host their game nights. 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,440 And when I say hired, they just gave me like a free bar tab and 143 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,760 I was like, yeah, I'll bring my friends to play some games so 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,840 that we. Absolutely. 145 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,480 On Friday nights for free drinks to play games. 146 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,080 But it got to the point where I was also running Friday night 147 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,560 board games, Tuesday night D&D, where I was teaching different 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,040 games of D&D. We had kids playing, we had 149 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,560 adults that were wanting to learn. 150 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 And we had like so much going on. 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,840 And I did that for several years. 152 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,480 And even through the pandemic, we ended up making a Discord 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,200 server and still meeting with some of these people. 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,520 Actually, some of them have moved pretty far away. 155 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,920 And we still communicate about the campaign we were in just to 156 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,760 like keep in touch with everything and like check up on 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,560 each other's families and that sort of thing. 158 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,400 I didn't want to just play at conventions. 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,120 I wanted to get as much gaming in as as physically possible. 160 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Tabletop stimulator's fine, but it's not the same. 161 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,440 I crave that social aspect of sitting at a table with 162 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,480 somebody. No phones, no computers. 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,960 We don't text while we're while we're playing a game. 164 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,039 You know, I'm like, let's communicate. 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Let's actually sit here and get this game going. 166 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,360 I want to figure it out. I do travel a good bit to play 167 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,800 games. I do drive. 168 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,440 It's usually two hours and but it's worth it because a lot of 169 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 us will get together and we'll make a whole day of it, if not a 170 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,680 weekend. Several times this summer I've 171 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:00,160 actually camped and it's all of my gaming buddies and we will 172 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,880 camp and we will just play games as much as we possibly can. 173 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,520 I love that. So that's really similar to most 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 of our friends in the UK. They'll do that. 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,080 They'll have like one day, but because the UK is so much 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,440 smaller, they can all get together for a single day. 177 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Someone will rent a hall like a, a scouting hall or something in 178 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,680 their area and they'll just have like a one day gaming convention 179 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,840 where they all get to hang out. Unfortunately, the United States 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,640 is just too big. We can't do that. 181 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,320 You know, You and I are good 15 hour drive apart, you know? 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Yeah, it's. Ridiculous how far everything is 183 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,080 and that's what I was trying to explain to someone the other day 184 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,600 when they're like oh but there's a game shop and I'm like just 185 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,040 because it's in my state doesn't mean I can get to it. 186 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,080 Like that's a 2 day trip for me because I'm going to have to 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,960 stay the night before I drive back. 188 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,240 Right. Oh yeah, that's crazy. 189 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 We're just so spread out and especially around here with all 190 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,400 the mountains, you know, it takes forever to get through 191 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,200 things. Right, So what is your favorite 192 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,400 color that you enjoy playing? Green is my preferred. 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,920 OK. If purple is an option, I would 194 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,240 like to take that, but it's not always an option. 195 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,080 OK, you got. Do you have a third one in case 196 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,600 either of those are not available? 197 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,440 Blue Blue. I hate yellow. 198 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,320 I hate it. Like cannot explain it. 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,760 I just beef with the yellow. I don't like it. 200 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,040 All right, well, we're we're gonna, we're gonna move on past 201 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 yellow guys. So you started off, you fell in 202 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,400 love with the polyamino mechanic. 203 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Is that still your favorite game mechanic? 204 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Probably. I can't even help myself. 205 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Yeah, it just, it's great. It's so cool. 206 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,680 I like that. The tactileness of having actual 207 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,320 tiles in a board game. I want to be able to touch the 208 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,040 pieces. I'm not into like deck building 209 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,840 as much and that sort of thing. I want to touch pieces of 210 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,480 things, even like miniature games. 211 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,880 I'm very into miniatures. I like being able to move my 212 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 pieces around, so being able to like lay tiles is a really fun 213 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,320 mechanic. So it's kind of cross between 214 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,680 polyomino and tile, tile laying slash placement. 215 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,200 Yeah, yeah, I get. I get. 216 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,160 It's. Interactive, it's fun and it's 217 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,920 very satisfying because it's like you're instantly getting 218 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,560 that gratification of placing your piece. 219 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,640 I get a point so. I feel this way, I don't know if 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,800 you do. So playing a tile, a tile 221 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,600 placement laying game, let's say Carcassonne. 222 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Just a great example. There are more guys I know, but 223 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,920 for for the purposes of my question to you. 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,320 So it drives me nuts when there's a vacuum. 225 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,560 I don't like holes in my maps, right? 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Like I will sometimes play a tile that's not advantageous to 227 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,400 me just so that I can have the map look filled in. 228 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Do you experience that as well? Yeah, yeah, definitely. 229 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,040 I recently was playing a game where you're laying polyominos 230 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,840 big shock and it was 1 where you're building up actually on 231 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,400 layers on top of each other. And in the rules it states that 232 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,720 you do not have to complete a layer to move up to the next 233 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,640 layer. But I can't do that. 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,440 I want to complete them and it's not not always the best option 235 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,720 to complete them because of the higher if you move, the higher 236 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,920 the earlier you score. But that's true. 237 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,600 I can't. I want to. 238 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,200 I'm a completionist. I get that. 239 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,680 I totally understand that. Speaking of Queen games, Daba 240 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:38,080 Walla's a perfect example. Was that what you were playing? 241 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Yeah. I've just got all these queen 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,080 games. Well, sure. 243 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Yeah. But is Copenhagen still your 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,000 favorite in the product line from Queen? 245 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Yeah. OK. 246 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,120 All right. I don't. 247 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:55,040 I don't know that I'm going to be honest. 248 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,680 I have my favorite queen game is not. 249 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,560 It's a great game. I love playing it, but I think 250 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:06,360 it has more to do with nostalgia that's connected to it. 251 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,560 And that's Aqua Romano. Really. 252 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,680 Yeah, that's an old. Guys, that's a played that one. 253 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,600 That's an old one. So there's two reasons why. 254 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,520 One, when my wife and I got married, she had already owned 255 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,800 it, so she taught it to me. And it's also set in the ancient 256 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Roman world because you're building the aqueducts in the 257 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,120 city of Rome. So that appealed to both my wife 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,680 and I as we were studying classics in Roman history. 259 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,600 And it's just like, yeah, I could play Aqua Romana anytime. 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,200 It's tile placement because you're laying tiles to get the 261 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,760 water and the aqueducts to go. Yeah. 262 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Aqua Romana is probably my favorite queen game, and it's 263 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,040 more likely about my relationship with my wife than 264 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:57,040 it is a reflection of how great that theme and mechanic is for 265 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,480 that game. Isn't it wonderful how we can 266 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,240 put these feelings into a game based on like the memories that 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 we've made around them? You know, there are certain 268 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,280 games that I love, I know I absolutely cherish because of 269 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 who I've played them with or where I've played them. 270 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,880 You know, I took this to this game night and this happened 271 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,520 there and now it has a very special place where it is faced 272 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,800 out on my shelf and I get to look at it and have happy 273 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,320 memories. Yes, yes, that is absolutely one 274 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,280 of my favorite things about this hobby and this community. 275 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 And, you know, I mean, it's interesting, too. 276 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,640 We're talking about Daba Walla. So I met you at Origins 24. 277 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,000 I had just finished. My wife and I had just finished 278 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,560 up. We had signed up for an event to 279 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,720 learn to play Daba Walla. And we're like, we're buying it. 280 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Like seal delivered. It's done now. 281 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 It's a yeah. We lean on Queen games because 282 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080 it was early in our relationship, right? 283 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,400 So whenever Queen comes out with a new game, we're immediately 284 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,640 like, we must check it out. Now. 285 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,840 This is true any product line, right? 286 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Just it's just the reality of when you make products, not all 287 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Queen games are created equally. Not all of them just hit, you 288 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,240 know, sing touch my soul. But still, whenever Queen comes 289 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,320 out with a game, we gravitate right away, you know? 290 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,080 So, yeah. So thanks, Queen Games. 291 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Thanks for that. You know, it's awesome to hear 292 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,920 that, right? I and I feel the same way about 293 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,400 Queen because it was such an early experience for me in in 294 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,080 the hobby. They gave me this opportunity to 295 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,040 to demo with them and I've never left. 296 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,320 I they can't get rid of me. They might. 297 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Want to? They can try, I've not left yet. 298 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:49,040 So do you have a favorite game of all time or just a favorite 299 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,200 game right now that you're hitting your table constantly? 300 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,040 I do too and it's a hard question which is why I. 301 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,200 Game that I've not even played yet. 302 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,280 OK, but it's on my table right now. 303 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,960 But it's like, it's a weird one because it's not a traditional 304 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,480 board game. It is. 305 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,600 There's a whole lot of like deduction and stuff to it. 306 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,360 It's very social interaction. It is the mother of 307 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Frankenstein, the the Mary Shelley game by Arcane Wonders. 308 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:26,680 So I have Volume 1, two and three on my table currently, and 309 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,240 I'm going to be playing it before Halloween with a group of 310 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,040 friends. And we're going to be dressed in 311 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,640 period accurate wear because we are nerds. 312 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 And we're going to have us like a little dinner party where we 313 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,480 try to like, find the mysteries. Yeah, I'm like obsessed though, 314 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,120 and I'm making an outfit for the game. 315 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Because that's that is a great segue into the fact that you're 316 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,440 not just a content creator in your own right, as well as 317 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,840 making content for Queen games. You were all so pretty well 318 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,800 known cosplayer and probably magician of all thing crafts. 319 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,560 I recently saw that you got like you bought a bunch of fabric 320 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,880 just recently and posted and it was like, you know, I'm like, 321 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,359 look, anytime you post something I'm like, I show it to my wife. 322 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,480 Rachel just got a whole bunch of fabric. 323 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,440 Look at this. This is great because it's hard 324 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,520 to find since Joanne's closed and Michael's just letting us 325 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,200 down and. It has been really, really 326 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,680 difficult. Joanne's closing has been harder 327 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,440 on me than I thought it would be. 328 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,440 I thought I was prepared. I did stockpile a ton. 329 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,520 I have a room full of bolts of fabric. 330 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:30,680 Like I I went prepper. Like the world is ending. 331 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,200 We're not going to have Joanne's anymore. 332 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:36,640 By all the threads that you can. So I buy a bunch and then I get 333 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 these crazy ideas where I'm like, I have two weeks to make 334 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,800 this costume based off this game and I wish I could run into 335 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,440 Joann's and just touch the fabric like I used to do. 336 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Ordering online is not the same. I I sit next to my wife and see 337 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,080 her struggle with all that. So how long have you been 338 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,760 cosplaying? Because you were a cosplayer 339 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,000 first. Yes. 340 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,480 So cosplaying was sort of a Segway into gaming for me. 341 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,960 I've been cosplaying about 12 years, 12, but I was super into 342 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 costumes before that. Like I was that girl that took 343 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Halloween or like any kind of costume party way too seriously 344 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,600 and. It didn't matter how cold you 345 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,240 was outside. You were not wearing, did not 346 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,440 care, did not care. I'm not going to cover up what I 347 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,160 made. I worked on a costumer, always 348 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,000 see it. I'm going as many places as 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,120 possible. What was What was your first 350 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,320 costume like that you made from? Poison. 351 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Ivy. Poison Ivy? 352 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,160 Yeah. Do you still have it? 353 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,520 I do. She's not doing great. 354 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,240 It's not something I would wear without repairing, but I do have 355 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,800 it. I actually saw it a little bit 356 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,000 ago. I've got a costume rack. 357 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,200 I have several costume racks. I also built a closet for some 358 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,880 of my cosplays here in my basement, but I have her hanging 359 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,880 over in my cosplay room. Have you thought about IS? 360 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Having not seen the costume, would it be possible to shadow 361 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,920 box it? Like retire it from your 362 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,800 collection and shadowbox it and put a. 363 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,240 Yeah, I've thought about that. I've thought about that. 364 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,680 So my wife does a lot of shadowboxing of board games, 365 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,320 right? If we if we play a legacy game, 366 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,120 right, because you can never play it again unless you have to 367 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:21,160 buy a new copy, We'll shadowbox our legacy games or we'll shadow 368 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960 whenever you upgrade games, right? 369 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,600 So you buy a game and then you upgrade the components later and 370 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,800 then all of a sudden you've got these shadowboxes of wooden 371 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,120 needles all your on your walls. I've been trying to think of 372 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,320 like what to do with it because I'm not going to throw it away, 373 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 but I also don't want to just hang here and fall apart. 374 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,280 It needs a home and I would like to display it like it was the 375 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,120 first one I ever made. It's special. 376 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Exactly. It was it was my introduction 377 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,040 into like this crazy obsession that I, I like that same day I 378 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,840 was like, this is it. I am hooked. 379 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,520 I'm going to do this forever. Who taught you to sew? 380 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,080 I have been sewing my whole life. 381 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,200 My mom can sew, my grandma can sew. 382 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,040 I mean, we all just kind of did it. 383 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,320 As far as teaching me, YouTube is my friend. 384 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,960 YouTube has been a mentor for me. 385 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:14,720 And so you work with because you had, you had a suit that you 386 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080 were working on prior to Origins this year. 387 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,440 I don't believe that you wore, I don't know the character's name, 388 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,400 but you used a lot of you had a lot of armor. 389 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Did you use? WAR. 390 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,760 Yeah. Did you use Warfol? 391 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Yep. I did. 392 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,440 I used Warbler, I used foam. It was like a really crazy 393 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,840 amount of stuff I used because I was rushing. 394 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,640 I should have started way earlier, but I procrastinated. 395 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,040 I got nervous, but I weren't good under pressure. 396 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,640 So I was like one month to go, was building in entire Battle 397 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,920 Sister, and I'm actually really big into Warhammer, which is 398 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,400 like a random thing that happened because of going to 399 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,240 these conventions. We were across from the Games 400 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,360 Workshop guys and I was like, I like those outfits. 401 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,400 And then I was gifted a starter set for Warhammer and then I was 402 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 like, well, I'm obsessed. It's arts and crafts and a game. 403 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,360 I get to put these little people together and then I paint them 404 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,720 like, how could you not want to do that? 405 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,280 I've got some battle technics right here on my desk that I've 406 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,960 been working on. Like, I'm so into the stuff I 407 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,040 can touch, I can play with it. It's not just a video game, It's 408 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,400 not just a card game. I want to play games that are 409 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,760 more tactile and interactive. So. 410 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,880 I got into Warhammer and I decided I was obsessed. 411 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,600 And they're really cool because there's a whole lot of lore 412 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,240 behind it. But they wear white and it's 413 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,040 like lined in red. And that stands for the shroud 414 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,840 that they put over their St. when she passed. 415 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,520 And it has like an imprint of her on it. 416 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,800 So it's really cool and kind of creepy. 417 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,000 That's cool, I'm thinking about the Knights Templar. 418 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 You know where their robes were White with the Red Cross on the 419 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,080 front. So and I think that that 420 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,680 connection kind of like did it for me because they did look 421 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:09,320 very nightly instead of just big and bulky and like bloody or 422 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,760 dirty. You know, some of them are like 423 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,240 scorched with fire cause the flamers and stuff. 424 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,400 This was very like medieval night esque. 425 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,920 It did give me those vibes and how can you not like that? 426 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,120 Right. So at what point did you and I'd 427 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:30,720 ask this question last week, so I'm really interested in at what 428 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,120 point did you in your mind and your personal identity, you were 429 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:38,960 like, you know, I'm not just a cosplayer, I'm also a content 430 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,320 creator or did gaming. So which came not first I'd. 431 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,360 Say that content creating came first because I was doing it 432 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800 with cosplay. OK. 433 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,240 And then I kind of just transitioned and I'm doing like 434 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600 this weird middle ground where I'm standing on the fence and 435 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,440 I'm doing both at the moment. I would say I do more cosplay 436 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,320 content than I would like. I would like to transition and 437 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,400 do more board game, but it's hard to do when you're not 438 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,520 actively playing with people. And a lot of times when I'm 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,760 playing like I'm playing out with people that may not want to 440 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,920 be videoed and that kind of thing. 441 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,880 Sure, sure. I need better friends. 442 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,880 You are all our home is always open, you are always welcome to 443 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040 come spend a weekend and we'll play games. 444 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,520 You can make as much content as you want. 445 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400 We need to get together, even if it's just at a convention or 446 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,040 something, and play some games because I'm just, I'm dying to 447 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 play with people who are down for that. 448 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Right, but, but to be fair though, at conventions you're 449 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,280 quite busy. Yes, yes. 450 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,960 You know, I wear so many hats at conventions. 451 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,760 I'm doing lots of things. I'm trying to be involved with 452 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,920 different groups and companies and help out everybody and see 453 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720 everyone and it is it is pretty hectic. 454 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Yeah. So what role do you see content 455 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,120 creation play both in your personal life and what role do 456 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:08,560 you see content creating content creators, this community in the 457 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,640 gaming industry as a whole? Like, how do you see that? 458 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,560 Yeah, and you could tackle those either way. 459 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Content creation is so important to the gaming industry. 460 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,720 Yeah, this is something that I'm very passionate about. 461 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,280 It is how people know what they want. 462 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,240 It is usually the first look people have at a game. 463 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,400 It is the first time they hear of a game or a type of game. 464 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,800 And being a content creator is important because you you are 465 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,960 getting the word out about a product. 466 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,640 And it's really cool to see all the communication that goes on 467 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720 with that. You know, if you get on 468 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320 Instagram, you see an awesome board game picture, you go to 469 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,840 the comments and you read 100 comments like what is this and 470 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 how does this work? And it's really cool to see how 471 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,640 it is. It is bringing the community 472 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,880 together. I definitely feel like it has 473 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,560 brought me closer with people. I have so many friends that are 474 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,840 content creators in the board gaming community that like I 475 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,400 couldn't have imagined this would happen. 476 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200 I had no idea that the world I was even jumping into. 477 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,920 I was just like, I'm going to post about what I love, which is 478 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,400 board gaming. And then I'm following board 479 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 gaming accounts and they're following me back and now we're 480 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,640 talking to every to each other. And now I'm on a podcast and 481 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 like, it's, it's really interesting to see how that 482 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,960 works. Content creation not only like 483 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,200 tells people what they want to buy, but it tells people like 484 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,480 what is good out there. You're getting reviews and 485 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,280 people are getting sent review copies and you're going to want 486 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600 to listen to what they have to say. 487 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,640 You know, you're getting to hear opinions on it. 488 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,400 And not just advertisements. I want to hear an actual 489 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,280 opinion, not just an advertisement. 490 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,800 That that personal opinion, I think, and it sounds like what 491 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,080 you're saying. I certainly agree. 492 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,920 If it is, this is what I I I think content creation is set 493 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960 apart from just advertising because of that. 494 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,480 It's that personal opinion, right? 495 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Yeah, I scroll past advertisements all day long, but 496 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 if Grant Lyons makes a YouTube short saying this game is good, 497 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,600 I'm probably gonna buy it. Right, right. 498 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,200 How much of that though, do you attribute to your, your trust in 499 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,160 that like Grant for sure, but any content creator, right? 500 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Like there's a relationship even if it's not a face to face 501 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,320 relationship with these content creators, right? 502 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,640 There's definitely a relationship there. 503 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,120 I do feel like I know a lot about them because of how much 504 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:41,080 they're posting. And like, obviously it's 505 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,760 interesting to see who and whose gaming interests align with 506 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280 mine. Like, what do we have in common? 507 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560 What do we not have in common? What do they like that I don't 508 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,440 like? You know what? 509 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,400 If something doesn't work out for me right then maybe I won't 510 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,240 buy every game they recommend going forward. 511 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,240 So you made the comment that you you wanted to transition more 512 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,560 into content and creation for games and less cosplay. 513 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,640 Not not that you're going to stop cosplaying, but content 514 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,400 creation, but that games aren't hitting your table. 515 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,160 Do you feel for you that you have to play a game in order to 516 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560 create content? Prefer to OK, I don't feel like 517 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,320 I have to like even on my I have a YouTube channel. 518 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,120 I do have like an unboxing video because I was super, super 519 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,520 excited to get to get a game. So I opened it and I didn't play 520 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,720 it in that video. But I do think that videos where 521 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 the game is being played, or at least like gone through, get 522 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,400 better views. I guess that's true. 523 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,000 There's certainly some truth to that. 524 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,000 I know sometimes like I can't, although I think maybe once or 525 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,520 twice I've done, I've staged a photo right and kind of. 526 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Fake doing that. Like I don't want to be that 527 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480 person who just like sets things up for a photo. 528 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840 I'm not going to say I haven't done it because that's my job 529 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,360 sometimes, but. Exactly. 530 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,880 But I I definitely like to take more candid shots. 531 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040 I would love to walk around and get some shots of people 532 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,080 actually enjoying a game. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to work 533 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,880 more on video. I make videos. 534 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,480 I don't like the way they look. I'm like, this is terrible. 535 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,400 Video editing is something I didn't expect to be so hard. 536 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,640 Right. Who you? 537 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,200 Telling I can do it, but it's not pretty. 538 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,200 It's a lot of the editing will take longer than it'll take for 539 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,960 you and I to have this conversation. 540 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,840 It's that's crazy. So you're going to have to 541 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,480 whether your friends want to or not, you're going to have to 542 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,960 create some content and post when you play Mother of 543 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Frankenstein. Yes, Mother of Frankenstein. 544 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840 So it's a really. You're going to have to. 545 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Where like, Mary Shelley has left documents and a bunch of 546 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,080 stuff to her son on her deathbed, so she passes away and 547 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360 then he has to figure out what the big secret is. 548 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,840 And so I am cool, pumped and I have been assembling a party and 549 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,680 we have like an investigator. I'm the creator. 550 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,320 We have an, an investigator, I've got an attorney. 551 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440 I have like somebody who does science stuff for a living. 552 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Like I've been like very selective in who I've picked out 553 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,440 of my friend group. So that way I can have opinions 554 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,320 from like every, every side. You know, I've, I got one shot 555 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640 at this. I can only do it the once. 556 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920 That's true. That is true. 557 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,640 I love it. That's. 558 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440 The downfall to that kind of game. 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 So I'm not going to put a bunch of losers in the house with me. 560 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,880 We're going to do it right. I love that it's kind of a it's 561 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 a dream of mine. My favorite game everyone knows 562 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,840 is Obsession by Dan Halligan and I really would love to host a 563 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,760 night where we play Obsession and we all dress in a Victorian 564 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320 era clothing. I'm ready. 565 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600 There you go. Several Victorian outfits 566 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,760 depending on how fancy we want to. 567 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Get well the beauty, the beauty of obsession, if you were to do 568 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:56,040 that is you could dress fancy like you're in the upper house 569 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,240 and you're the the family. Or you could dress as one of the 570 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,400 servants because there is that upstairs, downstairs, kind of a 571 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Downton Abbey, right? Because you have the servants 572 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840 and the workers. So you could go either way, 573 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,520 right? I would probably dress as the 574 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,920 cook because that's just my favorite. 575 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,600 I would never be a Lord, OK? If I were born in Victorian 576 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240 England, I would be a servant. I would have been born into 577 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,360 service. I am a Princess. 578 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,560 I want ball gowns. Fair enough, fair enough. 579 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Do you have a favorite platform that you like to post your 580 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,240 content on? Instagram, I'm so basic. 581 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Instagram's my favorite. I love it because like, it's 582 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480 simple. I feel like Facebook is for 583 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,320 businesses and old people. Instagram is clips of a picture 584 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,960 or a really short videos and I like that OK and YouTube is 585 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 hard. YouTube is having been on 586 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400 YouTube for a year now, is getting easier. 587 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960 It's getting easier and you could do the shorts. 588 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Yeah, I like the shorts. I like the shorts a lot. 589 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040 And that's what I find myself doing is like scrolling the 590 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,960 shorts. And it's getting better every 591 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480 time I upload a video. It's a little bit smoother but 592 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,080 it still feels so awkward to like converse with myself and 593 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:16,600 then post it for people to see. Who you talking to? 594 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080 I mean, right, This, this is part of the reason why I've got 595 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 a podcast, because I got to talk to somebody. 596 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,640 It it is so weird just talking to the camera. 597 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,320 It I had to like deal with, I guess it was imposter syndrome 598 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,680 as what I was told where I was like it's just so awkward to 599 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,000 tell people what I do. Like they're not going to 600 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,800 believe me. You make videos about playing a 601 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,840 board game and I'm like, yes, yes, yes, I do. 602 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200 I do this, I do that. And I'm working for this 603 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,400 company. I'm working with this company. 604 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,520 I'm doing these things with these amazing designers, these 605 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080 amazing content creators. And then they're like, so like 606 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,920 I, I am here and I do deserve a place at the table, but it took 607 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,920 me a long time to be able to say that. 608 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Right. So what advice do you have for 609 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,280 someone who you know, they're they're a gamer and they don't 610 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200 think of themselves as content creators, but they're thinking 611 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,680 about becoming more intentional. And I really think that's what 612 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,960 separates when I say a content creator. 613 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,440 I think it's the intentionality. However, though there is kind of 614 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,720 that next step. Do you have any advice for 615 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680 someone who's thinking about maybe I want to be more 616 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,360 intentional and become a content creator and post with more 617 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,840 regularity. Take a take the. 618 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Step. Take the step. 619 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,040 Put yourself out there. Yeah, it's vulnerable feeling 620 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,880 and kind of uncomfortable, but once you do it, you've done it 621 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,280 and it won't get worse. The first time's the hardest. 622 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,520 It's weird, but just put yourself out there. 623 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Make connections, talk to people, post what you want to 624 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,680 post. Get all your sharing and stuff 625 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480 out there. Share content from other 626 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600 creators. Do a collaboration. 627 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,440 If you've got a friend that's a content creator, collaborate. 628 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,360 If you don't friend me, like we'll get together and do 629 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,680 something. Getting out there and being part 630 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040 of the community is the best thing you can do. 631 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Meet other people who who can help you and you can, you know, 632 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,960 feed off of what they're doing and they can feed off of what 633 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,760 you're doing and just share the experiences and the love of 634 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,360 board gaming. Yeah, and we're not talking 635 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,120 about getting a hotel and going to a convention like Origins or 636 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,320 Gen. Con or Geek Way or Essen or UKGE 637 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,640 and spending all your money. And when we're talking about you 638 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,800 could do this right here through the Internet, that's what the 639 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,160 social, social. Conventions can be very 640 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,000 expensive if you're wanting to go. 641 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440 A good way to do that is to volunteer with a company that is 642 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,120 going to be giving out hotel rooms and passes and you can try 643 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,600 to get in with a company and not spend $500 on a hotel room. 644 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,560 I mean, I don't know if you've tried to book something for for 645 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Gen. Con, but who it is it's pricey 646 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,200 for Origins. I actually rented an apartment 647 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,040 that was directly above the Barleys. 648 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680 Yes. So I rented an entire apartment. 649 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,120 Nice. And it was fabulous. 650 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,159 Much more comfortable than rooming with as many people as 651 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,800 we can fit in there. Usually we have a teeny tiny 652 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,960 hotel room and as many people that are going with the company 653 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,000 as possible get shoved in there. And I had a whole apartment to 654 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,480 do whatever I wanted with and lay out my costume pieces, make 655 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,760 food. I just want to go like put my 656 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,239 feet up. And I don't want to 657 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960 inconvenience my friends. You know, the people that are 658 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,520 going there with the same company, right? 659 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,040 I don't want to be in their way, but I want to be able to string 660 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,600 my stuff out. You know, I had my Battle Sister 661 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,520 cosplay with me and this takes up a lot of space. 662 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,080 I want to be able to just lay around and breathe. 663 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,320 I want to sit at the table and have a meal. 664 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,800 I love to cook. Cooking is like a really big 665 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600 passion of mine. So I had a whole kitchen there. 666 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,760 I was able to cook. I got some food at the North 667 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Market and brought it back and ate there. 668 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,040 I had a friend over but not cost effective if you're trying to 669 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,680 get into gaming. Like for the first the first bit 670 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,280 like go go with a company. Go with a company or split a 671 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,960 room with your friend. Or go to a smaller regional 672 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,040 that's something closer to you. I'm thinking tantrum con is in 673 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,440 North Carolina, Tennessee game days is in Nashville. 674 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:19,400 There's what is it Prairie, the great Prairie game festival, But 675 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,880 it's in Lincoln, NE. So it's, you know, there's, 676 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680 there are some, there are some smaller regional. 677 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,000 I would never miss Charcon in Charleston, WV. 678 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200 It's small but it is one of the best gaming conventions I have 679 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,560 ever been to. I'm also on staff for it. 680 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,960 Well, lahti da. I, I do their panels and their 681 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480 cosplay contests and stuff like that, but I, I love it. 682 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680 It's just, it's home. It's it's small and it's 683 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920 actually in like a museum, a planetarium that we share a 684 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,600 movie on and it's really cool. That is cool. 685 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,560 So that's in Charleston. Yes. 686 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,240 OK, I might have to check that out. 687 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,480 You absolutely should. It's a lot of fun. 688 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Yeah, that sounds. Cool. 689 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,840 We always have some kind of like live entertainment. 690 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,160 Like this year, we watched Code Names Live performed live on our 691 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,920 stage and Grant Lyons did a comedy bit there. 692 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,400 As he it was his want to do. Yeah, it was. 693 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560 It was so much fun. And I was thinking like, as a 694 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640 fan of his, I've seen like probably every video he's ever 695 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,080 posted. Wow. 696 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,080 It was completely new content. I was like, I've never watched 697 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,720 his like shows. I've just seen clips. 698 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,960 Yeah. So that was nice. 699 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,920 Well, be on the lookout because in a few weeks he's coming on as 700 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000 part of this content creator series. 701 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,760 Bonded. I feel like we're friends now. 702 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,920 So because there's not a whole lot else to do in Charleston. 703 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,760 So if you're at Charcon, you come to Charcon after Dark, 704 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,880 which is a karaoke party, and we all had a really good time. 705 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,880 Is always so bad that it's good. So tell me about because I've 706 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,440 been wanting to, I wanted to ask you this for a couple months 707 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,400 now. So at Origins, you're, you're 708 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,960 working in an official capacity as your communicate community 709 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,840 special social media specialist role at Queen Games. 710 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,200 It'll work the vendor hall and you got all these, all these 711 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,840 duties and Origins. And then on top of it, you're 712 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,120 also going to, you have to devote time for cosplay because 713 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360 you've got, like you said, you had an apartment. 714 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160 So you to spread it all out. And I know it didn't take 5 715 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,320 minutes to put all that on. And you probably had it. 716 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,320 I mean, I'm assuming you had a friend that helped you. 717 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,640 Yeah. Yeah. 718 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,000 I had help, actually. I didn't have my blaster 719 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,280 completely like assembled when I got there. 720 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,280 So they were like, I had two people gluing my pack on me as 721 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160 we were walking into the convention to like line up for 722 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160 the cosplay contest. They're like gluing my stuff 723 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,960 together. And we actually like, wrapped 724 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,720 gauze from the emergency medical kit that we found in the 725 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,880 bathroom of the Airbnb to hold my blaster's hose on because 726 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,240 like, my epoxy wasn't strong enough and it wasn't gluing. 727 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,240 But yeah, I definitely had help. And it took like like an hour, 728 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,680 maybe 2 hours to get dressed. I mean, it was a lot because I 729 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:14,000 had to do makeup and a wig and then the undersuit and then the 730 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,120 robes and the armor. They were like putting pieces on 731 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,080 me that were falling off as I was getting in line for the 732 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,720 costume contest. It was interesting. 733 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,040 I'm very happy with the outcome. I actually won second place. 734 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Excellent. For like the whole of Origins, 735 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,640 I, I don't want to sound like a sore loser, but I feel like if 736 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360 my stuff had been finished on time, maybe I could have won. 737 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,400 We were. We were finishing it as we were 738 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640 walking in. Yeah, I learned my lesson. 739 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:39,920 I've already started on next year's. 740 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480 I'm already already a step ahead of myself. 741 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,000 I won't start in May. I'll do it now. 742 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,920 The other thing too, we and we should talk about this. 743 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,160 I think this is important. I think this is an important, I 744 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,360 think it's an important issue and probably yet another one of 745 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,040 your passions. But you do some considerable 746 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,000 charity work connected with your cosplay, right? 747 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,640 Tell me a little bit about that. Yeah, so that's something I've 748 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,520 really been invested in lately. Every week I spend a couple 749 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640 hours at the Ronald McDonald House here and the local 750 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,600 Children's Hospital. I do a lot of crowd events where 751 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,680 we do like Make a Wish stuff. I just did pass to a Cure, which 752 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,200 is a cancer fundraiser. I do, I do a lot of different 753 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,640 things and I take I take a different costume. 754 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880 Sometimes it's Star Wars character, sometimes it's a 755 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,000 Princess, sometimes it's a comic book character. 756 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,800 The Princess stuff is the most popular. 757 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,520 This coming week I'll actually be in a Halloween parade and I'm 758 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,720 probably going to be a Princess because that's what the kids 759 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,960 want. But I like, I like being out 760 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,160 there and getting to see the community. 761 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,840 I'm going to be riding on a float with a local dance school 762 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,120 that's asked me to help with them. 763 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,040 So I'll watch the little ones that that can't March and then 764 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440 I'll be there and like pass out candy and do that kind of thing. 765 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,560 But it's fun to just get to be part of the community and make 766 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,360 all the kids happy. I push a hospitality cart at the 767 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,280 hospital where I'm giving out. Books and crayons and teddy 768 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,600 bears, snacks and juice boxes and that kind of thing. 769 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,320 It's a lot of fun to just be there and make a kid smile when 770 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,600 they need it the most, or be able to hand a parent a snack 771 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080 when who knows the last time they've left that room. 772 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,320 Right, right. We can't forget about the 773 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,680 parents too, right? Sure. 774 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680 That we're giving stuff to siblings and parents and just 775 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480 anybody that's around because that's a hard time for the 776 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,120 entire family, especially when I'm volunteering at the Ronald 777 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040 McDonald House. A lot of times I am just 778 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,760 cleaning or I am cooking and I'm assembling like welcome baskets. 779 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,240 We do like a welcome bag where we put all kinds of toiletries 780 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,160 and essentials and little activities and just things like 781 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,120 let them know we're thinking of them and we're here for them 782 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,920 during their stay. Because if they're there, 783 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480 they're there for an extended period of time away from home 784 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,840 and they probably didn't plan it. 785 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,440 It's probably been an emergency situation and they don't have a 786 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,320 toothbrush, they don't have deodorant. 787 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,160 We've got vouchers and stuff to help them get changes of 788 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,200 clothes. We've got all kinds of options 789 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,000 for like helping with transportation and that kind of 790 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200 thing. I love being able to cook there. 791 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,800 They have 4 kitchens at the Huntington Ronald McDonald 792 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,760 House. Wow, it's cool to be able to 793 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,160 like prep food and stuff and help them out and just make sure 794 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,800 like even if they're just like grabbing a a bagel on their way 795 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,360 back to the hospital, they're able to have that so they can go 796 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,160 be with their family. How long have you been working 797 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,760 with Ronald McDonald House? A little over a year. 798 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600 OK. Yeah, it's a project that's very 799 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520 near and dear to my heart. I remember like growing up, we 800 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640 went and visited a family. It was like my mom's college 801 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,400 best friend had had a baby. Like they weren't in college 802 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,120 anymore, but they're my mom's best friend from college. 803 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560 She had a baby and he was born with a lot of health issues. 804 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,360 And they ended up staying at the Ronald McDonald House at the 805 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,720 Cincinnati Children's Hospital. And I was like, McDonald's, why 806 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,360 are we going to McDonald's in Cincinnati? 807 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:54,040 You know, I was a child at the time. 808 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,640 Knowing what they did for that family, you know, knowing that 809 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,560 they gave them a safe place to stay without charging them an 810 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,040 exuberant amount of money. They gave them a place where 811 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,560 they could lay their head down. It was clean, they were fed. 812 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,840 They made sure that they had everything to be comfortable 813 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,320 because they couldn't think about themselves at that point. 814 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,120 They had a baby that was, you know, extremely, extremely in 815 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,680 need of medical care. That was their priority. 816 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,960 They couldn't think about themselves. 817 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,800 So having ready made food, you know, they're just ready to go 818 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600 and a nice place to sleep if you ever get the chance. 819 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,160 It meant a lot to them. And seeing that at at that young 820 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,360 age, I'm not even sure how old I was. 821 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,120 I was probably still in elementary school, probably 4th 822 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,080 grade. Seeing that and then seeing 823 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,080 throughout the rest of my life how much good they've done in 824 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,920 this community really made me want to help them out. 825 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,880 Yeah. Where can for our listeners, 826 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,280 where can they tribute, donate, whatever? 827 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,880 Do you do you have like a do you have a website, phone number or 828 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,120 anything that you use? If you want to donate directly 829 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,480 to the Ronald McDonald House, it's the Ronald McDonald House 830 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,400 charities.com. I do a lot with Starlight 831 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120 Foundation as well. So Starlight Foundation, they do 832 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,320 the donating for like all the the children's hospitals, but 833 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,320 they actually are game oriented. So they will donate games or 834 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,440 gaming devices and that kind of thing. 835 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,080 I'm getting ready to post a program where the Ghostbusters 836 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,040 group I'm in is running a thing with Starlight and we're going 837 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440 to be raising money for for their hospitals, and I'm pretty 838 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,440 excited about that. So you'll, so Rachel's going to 839 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,400 give me all the links. We'll put everything in the in 840 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,640 the comments section for you guys when the episode when is 841 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600 your listen and you'll see that there and we'll get that to you 842 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,840 so you guys can make contributions. 843 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,400 So I, I really love your Ghostbusters group. 844 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,360 Katie and I, we decorate our house for Halloween. 845 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,360 It's it's very much Ghostbusters themed. 846 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,400 She and I dress as Ghostbusters, although our costumes are our 847 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,920 costumes are nothing like yours, but we got two, we got 2 full 848 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,480 life skeletons that we, you know, we put up in the yard and 849 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,720 dress them as the other two Ghostbusters. 850 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,960 We just recently added two more and we we dress one as Lewis 851 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,040 Tully and Dana Barrett. So you got the. 852 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760 Gatekeeper and the. Keymaster and they're sitting on 853 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,080 a bench in front the house and we've got a ghost and they got 854 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,360 the little orange lights cause yeah. 855 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,480 My water bottle here has slime hanging on it. 856 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,080 I love that. I'm just it's one of my favorite 857 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,040 movies or movie franchises out there. 858 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,240 Yep, it's it's, I don't know what why it has hold on me, but 859 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,520 it does. And dressing up like a 860 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,760 Ghostbuster. We've done so much fundraising 861 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680 and so much good and so many people like it. 862 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,760 Kids love it, adults love it. It came out in the 80s, but 863 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,480 there's also they're still coming out with Movies Now. 864 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,680 Exactly. It's one of those things where 865 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,720 every generation can appreciate it and not everybody feels that 866 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,960 way about some of my costumes. So like, we don't know what that 867 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,280 is, but everyone recognizes a Ghostbuster. 868 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,840 Everybody knows Ghostbusters. What do you to your mind? 869 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,520 What do you see that the community of content creators, 870 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,720 gamers, the gamer industry, just overall, what do you see that we 871 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,120 really do well that you're that makes you proud to be a part of 872 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,160 this community? What we do well, having the 873 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,640 community is probably the best thing that we do because in 874 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,040 cosplay it's not like that in my experience. 875 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:32,160 So I have met tons and tons of content creators from across 876 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,440 both sides of the board here and in the board gaming community. 877 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,360 They're kind, they're nice, they're normal people, They're 878 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,360 willing to talk to you about stuff. 879 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Everybody's super down to earth. Everybody is ready to play a 880 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,960 game, ready to make a video, ready to snap a picture. 881 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,080 Nobody acts like they're better than anyone else, and in cosplay 882 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,080 it's a competition, constantly a competition, and I feel like 883 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,840 with board gaming, the only competition is on the table and 884 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480 we leave it. So that's the way I like it. 885 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,160 It's much more simple. The social aspect is better 886 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,480 because even if it's a competitive game, then the 887 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,160 game's over and we can all just talk about it and be friends. 888 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,680 Right, right. I've, I've got so many friends 889 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,400 that do content creation now and I think that it's really, we're 890 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,280 friendlier. I don't know what I was 891 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,080 expecting, but I've gone to all different types of conventions 892 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,400 and all different types of hobbies and stuff. 893 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,600 But the board game content creators are just so kind and 894 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,880 welcoming, and it's it's not a scary thing to get into. 895 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,320 See that, guys? We're kind if we just keep being 896 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,920 kind. That's what it's all about. 897 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:51,640 There's groups for everything but nobody is being pushed out. 898 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,040 There's a space for everyone and I really, really like that. 899 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,360 Yeah. What is one thing that the 900 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,040 community needs to work on to your mind? 901 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,000 What is? We're something where we do fall 902 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,760 short and could do better. Don't love where only the 903 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,480 hottest newest games get the most attention. 904 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,960 I think, and that's not even the best answer to this, but that's 905 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,080 just the first thing that came to mind, I think. 906 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,320 You're talking about the cult of the New. 907 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,240 Right, yes. Just because it's new doesn't 908 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,960 mean it's great. And we there's always this rush, 909 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,040 this pressure to get your content of the newest game out 910 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,680 first as soon as possible. And I feel like there's almost 911 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,080 like this weight of a deadline. Like, if ten other content 912 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,640 creators have this game on their channel first, why post mine? 913 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,560 So there's always this, this, this pressure to get it out 914 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,760 there. And I feel like there there 915 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,800 shouldn't be. I feel like old games, older 916 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,000 games, smaller publishers, that kind of thing are still just as 917 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,640 worth posting about. But there's this weird pressure 918 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,320 of like only posting what's new, what's hot, what's trending. 919 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,520 And I feel like we should be pushing all the gaming content 920 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,560 all the time. There's so many games. 921 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,480 That's why there's so many creators, yeah. 922 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,960 Yeah. So what I'm hearing is that 923 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,520 there is room and there is space for everyone. 924 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,080 Everyone. I think I have this conversation 925 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,960 all the time, right? Wherever we go, we're gamers. 926 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,400 There's a board game for you. Doesn't matter who you are at 927 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,440 all. I was. 928 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,320 So I was in Anaheim, CA at the end of August for Society of 929 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,960 American Archivists convention because I'm an archivist. 930 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,400 So I was at a work convention and I mentioned that I had a 931 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,080 board game podcast. And so someone walked up to me 932 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,240 and was like, you know, can you tell me a little bit more? 933 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,640 And I said the same thing. I was like, no matter who you 934 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,040 are, there's a board game for you. 935 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,720 And I was like, tell me, where do you work? 936 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,320 So this individual is the senior archivist for the San Diego Zoo. 937 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,920 OK Yeah. So she manages all the records 938 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,960 for the zoo in San Diego. And I'm like, let me tell you 939 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,680 about this game called Arc Nova. And I just, I started to talk 940 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,920 when I started talking about, you know, appeal whenever you 941 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480 play an animal and it generates appeal. 942 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360 And at the end of the round, that appeal determines how much 943 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,240 money you generate. And there's conservation 944 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,520 efforts. And I'm explaining just kind of 945 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,120 how the scoring works in that game. 946 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,480 Her eyes lit up. And she was like, this is a real 947 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,000 thing. And I'm like, yes ma'am, there 948 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,040 it is. And there it is. 949 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,600 You check it out. I talk more about board games 950 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640 when I'm at an archives conference than I talk about 951 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,240 archives. I'm just saying right cuz we 952 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,640 need more gamers cuz there's so many games that they need to be 953 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,400 played. There's so many really cool 954 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,400 themes, yes, and I think a theme is a good way to get your toes 955 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,080 into the community. So if you're into quilting, 956 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,480 there's a quilt themed game. Now you like board games and 957 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,320 you're going to play all the other themed games. 958 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,200 There it is. Gets you in. 959 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,720 I love that you brought up quilting and I'm pretty sure the 960 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:13,040 game you're thinking of is a polyomino tile laying game to. 961 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,080 Do that. So I love that. 962 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,840 Yeah. Yeah. 963 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,480 See, it's all full circle, guys, right. 964 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,960 It's like Cicero said, all the humanities are inherently linked 965 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,040 as if by a common bond. It's all full circle. 966 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,080 It's all full circle. That's. 967 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,880 It the bond is board games. Board games are the connections, 968 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,200 right? And the conversations is like 969 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,640 the glue that holds the community together or something 970 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,400 like that. Absolutely. 971 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,480 I'm trying to work on that. I'm working on that that 972 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,280 analogy. Yeah, something I'm toying with. 973 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,280 I don't like the way that came out but y'all know what I'm? 974 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,600 Talking. There's potential there, There's 975 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,160 potential. Yeah. 976 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,560 My my greatest relationships have been built on board gaming. 977 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,960 Some of my best friends, like all a lot, most of my friends 978 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,280 actually are are into board gaming, even if it's just a 979 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,400 little bit because I forced them. 980 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,160 But some of my absolute best friends I've met through being 981 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,880 in this community, and I'm so thankful that I got to meet 982 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,880 everybody and become what we are. 983 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480 Yeah, I would never have met you if it weren't for gaming. 984 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,600 I'm just saying, you know, I, I will say on a personal note, I'd 985 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,840 love to see more board game content on your page. 986 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,480 All your social media, your cosplay is amazing, but. 987 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,560 Personal goal, I'm definitely going to be pushing more and I 988 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,280 think I want to do more collaboration of like dressing 989 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,360 up with the game because I'm doing that with my my Halloween 990 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,520 1. So I was like, why don't we do 991 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,600 that? I'm loving it so much. 992 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,400 Why don't I do it more often? Sure. 993 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,800 Yep. I would love to collaborate with 994 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,680 you on that. Just note that as someone who 995 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,320 doesn't cosplay, it's not going to look terrific, but you know, 996 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,440 that's that's OK. Yeah, I mean, we do, we get we 997 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,200 dabble a little bit. One of the things that my wife 998 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,360 and I do at Christmas time when we go to see my in laws and 999 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,440 they're in Ohio, there's the I don't know what it's, but 1000 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,200 there's a Renaissance festival in Ohio and it's in December. 1001 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,040 So it's like a Christmas. So we she's is. 1002 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,920 It like the Dickens themed stuff. 1003 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,920 Some of it is so she's she's working on both of our costumes 1004 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,200 right now. Like stays or OK? 1005 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,640 And I'm like, yeah, so. So she's working on that so that 1006 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,520 we'll be dressed appropriately for the Renaissance Festival at 1007 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,880 Christmas. And you got to dress up before 1008 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,600 going. You do, you do. 1009 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,440 And it's like, OK, yeah. Like Renaissance clothing, 1010 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,760 Renaissance costumes really lends itself to the winter time 1011 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,640 because there's a lot of layers and they're heavy and. 1012 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,000 Absolutely. There's some cool stuff out 1013 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,160 there. I've got a quilted petticoat 1014 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,480 that I only wear for like outdoor winter events because it 1015 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,200 looks like my regular gown on the outside. 1016 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,600 Because my skirt is is, you know, still typical cotton, but 1017 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,800 underneath it is a thick quilt all the way around. 1018 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,480 So like I'm. But there's a lot of there's a 1019 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,560 lot of great opportunities to cosplay a board for a board game 1020 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,120 that you're about to play, right? 1021 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,560 I mean, with within reason, I'm certainly not going to, you 1022 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,280 know, get a bunch of warp and make this huge armor for like 1023 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,320 Nemesis on Halloween and we're going to play Nemesis because 1024 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,720 that would just be uncomfortable because you have to sit down. 1025 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,280 You know all about that. Sure. 1026 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,760 But you know, you understand, you've got to be practical 1027 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,520 because you want me to sit and play like, I don't think that 1028 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,920 that costume that you wore for Origins, you could have sat down 1029 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,840 and played a board game in that. Not well, sure. 1030 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,640 So I actually had an issue because I needed to sit. 1031 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,440 I've been standing for four hours of they, they did not have 1032 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,240 a place for any of us to sit or anything. 1033 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,320 So we had to stand in lines and then move to another's place and 1034 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,280 stand in more lines. And I almost passed out towards 1035 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,840 the end. It was just like, I'm going to 1036 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,880 sit. But I was worried about bending 1037 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,760 my legs because I made the legs kind of flexible and I didn't 1038 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,240 want to like chip paint or anything. 1039 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,280 And I was like, I just, I'm up on these gigantic shoes. 1040 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,520 I had like a little stilts on. I was like, I just, but I wanted 1041 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,120 to be tall so. That's crazy. 1042 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,520 Yeah. But there's a lot of ways to 1043 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,800 marry those two hobbies together. 1044 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,040 I can absolutely see that. Like I said, I still want to do 1045 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,560 the period piece for obsession. I just think that would be a lot 1046 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600 of fun. There's a couple others I think 1047 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,760 that I would be. That would be neat to do. 1048 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,680 Right. Yeah. 1049 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,960 So anything else on your mind that you want to share about 1050 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,800 this beautiful community that we're a part of? 1051 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,080 I'm just. I'm so happy to be, to have this 1052 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,080 opportunity. You know, I'm, I'm thankful to 1053 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,880 be in this beautiful community. I'm thankful that there people 1054 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,920 are listening to me and watching me and just putting up with my 1055 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,600 shenanigans for the most part. It's, it's wild to feel so 1056 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,280 welcome and so included in something that I feel like I'm 1057 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,640 sort of new to, you know, it's, it's been a couple years, but I 1058 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,560 just jumped in and didn't know what I was doing and everybody 1059 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,880 had their arms open and caught me. 1060 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,560 It was, it was interesting to see how it went. 1061 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,560 And like, now I'm on a podcast. Well, thank you. 1062 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000 I don't know that this podcast is as popular as that, but thank 1063 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,120 you for the accolades. It's just. 1064 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,880 I'm trying to get more listeners though. 1065 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,040 It's really cool to see how this works and like learn more about 1066 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,560 all of these people and, and see how they got into it. 1067 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,440 So the series you're working on right now I'm bumped for. 1068 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000 I can't wait to hear everybody else's experiences. 1069 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,800 I mean, I, I have truly curated A diverse group of individuals 1070 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,120 across all the spectrums and across the the world. 1071 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,720 I will have guests on all over the US. 1072 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:50,040 I've got a guest from the UK, the Netherlands, Germany, 1073 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,720 Australia. I'm really excited. 1074 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,440 So be on the lookout for that. Yeah. 1075 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,560 Just trying to curate different sexualities and races and just 1076 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,960 getting everyone included, right? 1077 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,800 I really do believe that our strength is in our diversity. 1078 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,840 And if we're going to talk about unity, it has to start with 1079 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,920 diversity. We have to embrace our diversity 1080 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,960 because if you can't have unity, you cannot have unity. 1081 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,240 PJ you cannot have unity without diversity, right? 1082 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,320 Absolutely and. That's what makes us stronger, 1083 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,880 Absolutely. So where can people find you? 1084 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,120 Either you and your cosplay, or your YouTube, or you in an 1085 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,240 official capacity with Queen Games? 1086 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,040 Where do people find you? OK so if you're looking for me 1087 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,040 on like Instagram or Facebook at Miss Kitty Cosplay, my actual 1088 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,280 name is Rachel Bolin, but Miss Kitty Cosplay is the easiest way 1089 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,080 to find me on YouTube. My channel name is Miss Kitty's 1090 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,720 Dice and Disguise Discussion, so I talk about my costuming and 1091 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,160 dice related things for gaming and if you're looking for me 1092 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,640 with Queen Games, if you've got anything social content related 1093 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,960 that you want to get reshared, or if you want to collaborate 1094 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,760 with something or get on our press list, that would be 1095 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:12,400 r.mullen@queenhyphengames.com. I spelled that out with my 1096 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,360 finger like I'm writing it. It'll be down below. 1097 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,360 Yeah, we can link it all. We'll link it. 1098 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,840 Up. Yeah, it'll be there, guys. 1099 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,600 It's just such an honor to be here. 1100 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,320 This is exciting. I've, I, I just got off the 24 1101 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,920 hour game jam and I feel like my brain is mush. 1102 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,680 I, I wasn't up for 24 hours, but I spent a lot of time thinking 1103 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,520 about a game and that just, it was such a fun exercise, but it 1104 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,520 was exercise. It was different. 1105 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,440 You know, I've been trying to dabble in board game creation. 1106 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,680 I want to be a designer as well. I've got these awesome ideas, 1107 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,640 got to figure out how to put them out there and go onto a 1108 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,360 table. What better way to do that than 1109 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,600 a board game jam? Pam Walls hosted 1 and I was 1110 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,000 like, this sounds like a great idea. 1111 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,240 It was hard, but it was cool, but it was like it was hard 1112 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,320 using having parameters to like work around was something I've 1113 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,600 never worked with before. Usually it's just like I come up 1114 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,760 with whatever I want to, and when it's not cool, it's not 1115 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,000 cool. If it's cool, it's fine. 1116 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,520 But having set parameters changed it, and I think I liked 1117 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,040 it because it gave me a more structured challenge. 1118 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600 Yep, I think that's a. Timeline. 1119 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,920 Yeah. Having a timeline really put 1120 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,280 pressure on it to where I had. I had to come up with something. 1121 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,600 I couldn't think about it for a week. 1122 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,360 There was no just cutting back to it in a couple days. 1123 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,120 It was. That's your way of doing it. 1124 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,160 Like there's no other way around it. 1125 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,320 You got to do it. Yep, that's that's fantastic. 1126 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,640 I think it's that structure. I think we all need that 1127 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,320 structure, some of us more than others. 1128 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,360 And that structure helps out. I think it's part of the appeal 1129 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,800 of board gaming and why we're passionate about this shared 1130 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,520 experience on our tables. Is that structure there? 1131 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,120 Well, Rachel, thank you so much. You're. 1132 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,400 Very welcome. I am just my gosh, this is a 1133 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,280 great second episode of this series. 1134 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,600 We got a lot. Think about more things and I'll 1135 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,960 come back. No, definitely, definitely come 1136 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,000 back as you design more games. We'll have you on in a designer 1137 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,840 capacity, yeah. I've got a couple designs that 1138 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,600 I'm ready to pitch to publisher. Hopefully that won't be long. 1139 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,000 Yeah, who knows, there might be a our Mullen games one day and 1140 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,040 you know, you'll be running your own thing and you'll be all 1141 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,680 independent you. Never know what's. 1142 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,320 Happening over the world. Things change day by day in this 1143 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,840 industry. It is true Yep. 1144 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,000 Well guys, thank you for listening. 1145 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,320 Please, as always, most humbly like and subscribe to the 1146 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,040 channel. You know, you can find us on 1147 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,000 Instagram, on YouTube, on TikTok, just launched A TikTok, 1148 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,560 went ahead and dove into TikTok. Eliminate all the cool things at 1149 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,760 Meatball to Meatball. And as always, be kind to one 1150 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,920 another and let's play more games.