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Remember a couple of years ago I had a few

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episodes that planned out my maternity leave, especially

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the one with baby number two. Let's just say reality

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had different plans. And in this episode I'm going to reflect a little bit on

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what changed with myself, my body, my

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babies, my business and what I'm focusing on next. This is your opportunity

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Honestly, y' all had a completely different episode planned for today,

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but I am a week away at the time of recording. Recording this

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from my youngest, my one year old going to daycare. If you are

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new and this is your first episode, a little bit of context. I have been

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in business for 11 years. I got pregnant with my first baby in

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2021. Had her in 2022. 2022 was

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also our highest year in revenue as a business. We hit almost nearly a million

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dollars in business in the agency. That was

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great. Baby one, very easy baby. Now that I've done two,

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I'm like oh, the first one was the easy baby when she

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months old got pregnant with the second baby. Baby two

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and second pregnancy was more challenging still,

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like technically both easy pregnancies.

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However, my body had not

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recovered so I do not recommend that. I also had two C sections which

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also is very hard on the body. I'm still

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recovering to this day and a lot has changed. I'm going to

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get into all of those details in this episode. Just wanted to lay the groundwork

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because y' all are nosy and I love that for you. I also want to

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give a caveat and say I'm just Sharing my experience. There is

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nothing in this episode that's actual advice. And that's why this

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episode feels a little bit different. But I find it helpful as a

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parent to hear other parents talk about what

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happened in their business. I did do this before having the

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babies, and I got it in my head that, like, I

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would be different. I would be, like, the exception to the rule.

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I am not. My entire brain feels consumed by these children.

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And so I want to talk about that. But also preface this by saying, this

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is not advice. I am not a medical

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physician. Clearly can't even think of the right

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words for that. I am just sharing my experience.

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And this is more of, like, a personal episode. So pull up a chair, get

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cozy, get comfortable. All right, let's

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talk about the difference first between baby one and baby two. So baby one pregnancy

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was actually not that bad. At the time, I thought it was terrible. And

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I saw a post on Threads recently that said we need to talk more

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about the realities of pregnancy because it is so

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different than what I thought and also my frame of

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reference. The people around me who had kids before

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didn't complain about pregnancy. Okay. I never heard people

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complaining about pregnancy. It was always a blessing. It was always your glowing

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and even things like morning sickness. It's like, oh,

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that's so cute. Or like, your ankles are swollen. Here, have a seat. Give your

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seat to the pregnant lady.

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I did not like it one bit.

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I did not have morning sickness. I had all day sickness. It did not

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happen just in the first trimester. Happened all the way through. And with both

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babies, I didn't like meat. And basically only eight

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pickles, which y'. All. I never liked pickles before. In fact, if I went to

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a restaurant and it had, like, pickles on the sandwich, I would say, please, please

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don't put the pickles on there. Because then the pickle juice, like, gets on the

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sandwich. It's not like something you could just peel off. Now I'm like, extra pickles,

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please. Like, so bizarre how my taste buds changed after having

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kids. But my first pregnancy wasn't as

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challenging to me on my body. First of all, it was just the

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one. I didn't have any kids and my business was at its

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peak. I mentioned that 2022, we had our record breaking

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year of revenue. There's over $900,000 in revenue that year

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with the agency and the membership. And we were doing great,

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y'. All. Absolutely fantastic time for the business. Um,

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and it was great. Like, I loved it. I loved it. It was a lot

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easier Too, to have my team kind of run things while I was

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recovering, and it was fun.

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Then I wanted a second baby. I got baby fever. I will tell you

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this. Between 15 and 18 months, to

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now. It is adorable. She just started saying

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little things, but she's just, like, exploring. She's

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walking. She's kind of like, she's starting to understand what the words mean.

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cute. She's not talking back to me. You know, the three year old is like,

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we're in. We're in a little bit of a battle because she wants to do

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it her way, I got to do it my way, and I'm apologizing to her

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anyways. Baby 2

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happened so quickly, too. I do not recommend this. I did not expect this

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to happen, but apparently we fertile over here. Baby

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my body had not recovered from the first pregnancy, and so

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I had a really tough time physically with the way that

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my weight was being carried. With my C section scar,

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like, stretching out from having the second baby,

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I started showing much quicker. And then I also had some

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family stuff that resulted in less family support. Okay.

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That's my other caveat for this episode. I'm gonna try to be as particular

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as I can be, but also, like, boundaries. Y' all don't need to know every

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single little thing. Just know that it's like, I didn't have as much

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support as with the first pregnancy. And with the first baby, my body wasn't

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recovered. I was literally, y' all taping my belly

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with reinforcement tape to hold it up because my muscles

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couldn't hold up my belly. This baby was bigger, too, and

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I was chasing a toddler. Anyways, the

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realities of my first baby to my second baby,

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totally, totally different. I will also say as

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newborns, they were different. First baby, very chill. Second

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baby was colicky. And so basically what I

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learned when people say their baby was colicky, this is a fun fact, y'. All.

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For those who don't have kids, when they say your baby's colicky, it

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basically means we don't know. Like, the doctors have no

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idea. And they just slap this word on there, colicky,

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and they're like, it'll go away. So there's, like,

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literally nothing you can do. She was crying all day

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for the first three months. She just cried all day and all night.

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She spit up a lot for her first year, she would just

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spit up almost everything. And so it was really gross. I

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think I've talked about this on the podcast before. It was really gross and frustrating

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as a mom. Plus you also have a toddler to take care

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of when you have to say like baby and toddler.

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2024, I realized that the business

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wasn't doing as well. Okay, so 2022, record breaking year,

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2024, not only was the business not

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doing well, there was just some shifts that

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happened. Financially, it wasn't doing well. I had to

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let go of some of my staff because of that. The

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economic situation we're currently in, like, y', all, we're

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in an. Not. Recession's a strong word, but it's in an economic

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downturn for sure. The rise of AI means

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some of the menial tasks we were doing no longer needed. I love that for

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everyone else, but as a business owner, it was like, eek, right?

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And so I mapped out this whole plan for my business, like, here's

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the steps I need to do to like revitalize it. But

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July 2024, I had a colicky three month old

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and a two year old and a C section I was

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recovering from with less family support. So I decided to sell

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my business. I have a couple podcasts on on that. I'll link in the show

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notes. So I sold my agency. I sold

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it to two of my team members. I sold our client list essentially in our

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processes and did a beautiful exit

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there. And now my focus for the past year has been on

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the Mindful Marketing Lab, the podcast, my

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courses, speaking and teaching. So I'm a marketing consultant.

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In that time, I also rebranded from savvy social to

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mindful marketing to really lean into more holistic marketing

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ecosystems. Okay, so that's kind of like

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bringing us to today. I want to

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highlight a few things though, in that process.

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One was that I am. I've learned that I am an

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optimistic person. Okay. And this is not necessarily a bad

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thing. It's just something I have to be aware of because I jump into everything

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with two feet and I'm like, it's going to work out. It's going to be

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great. If you go back and listen to my episode, I just listened to the

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one where I did my maternity planning before Baby one.

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I was so optimistic, so optimistic.

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Nothing wrong with that. But it wasn't the reality of my situation.

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The reality is that I was sick, I was tired,

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I couldn't stick to a rigid schedule because my

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life was so in flex and so I needed a business

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model that fit with that. Hence what I am working on now, which is the

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mindful marketing lab. I can batch create content, I can do

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things at naps and when the kids go to sleep. It doesn't

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necessarily have to be so structured. I set the pace for

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like how often I do lives and teach classes

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and if I can't do lives, I do pre recorded. Okay.

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So I've learned that that is a business model that fits for me

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and it's not something I thought going into it. Right.

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I do think if the market hadn't shifted and there wasn't

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this rise of AI that I could have very easily

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continued the agency. But in the world that we live in, things

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change. And as business owners and leaders, it's our responsibility to change for

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that. I'll also say emotionally,

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I had a really hard time with my second baby. I had

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postpartum depression and anxiety, which I didn't realize I

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had until my husband actually pointed out, bless his heart,

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so helpful, so supportive. He said,

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hey babe, you may want to ask the doctor

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about this emotional journey going on. And of course nobody wants to hear that. Right.

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So I had this like emotional breakdown and then I was like, oh,

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maybe he's right. So I went to the doctor, got my diagnoses. I'm on

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Lexapro now. It's been amazing for me. And then like looking back

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retroactively, I'm able to go, oh, I now see a very

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clear difference between my emotional state now than

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six months ago. Okay, so I was, I had a really bad

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postpartum depression and anxiety for me. Bad for me.

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That made it challenging to work. Okay, so that also added

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to this. Then we're also adding to all of

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this. Like post pandemic fallout. People were chronically

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online in 2020, 2021. They're not online

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in the same ways right now. In fact, people are

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craving more in person community, but their budgets are

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different. Their budgets have also changed. So even things like,

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I plan to do my retreat again this year.

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So optimistic of me. I didn't sell the tickets that I needed in the pre

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sale phase, so I canceled it. But now

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retroactively looking back, I can also see it wasn't priced correctly

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for where people are. There's a lot of things like that. Okay,

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so headed into where I am now, we. I

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am in a pivot. I would say that

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this pivot has been for the past year. If I can say that

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I'm like thinking out loud, here y' all are thinking with me because I saw

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I started the sale of the agency in July of 2024,

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completed it in October of 2024.

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And since then I do feel a little bit adrift because I

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have been as a service based business owner for

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11 years. Okay. So I'm going into my 12th year of business in

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March. So I've been doing this for a long time.

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And I went through the stages of grief when I sold my agency

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because there I had to let go of that title of agency

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owner. In that podcast episode,

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I positioned it as my Tom Brady moment where I said

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this is a goodbye for now, maybe not forever, but that I'm

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retiring as a service provider. And

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with that, I also lost my team. So I

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was so used to working with people that I went from

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working with like at its peak, my team had, we had 12 people.

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I went to working from 12 people, like half of them full

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time, half of them part time down to it's

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me and Jamie, my wonderful, amazing assistant, who

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honestly I've been working with her since 2019. So we don't really

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talk a lot. I think in the past three months we've had one meeting

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like, like we just like we send little text based

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updates and then that's it. And I'll send her like a podcast level voice note

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sometimes to be like, here's what I'm thinking, but that's it really.

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sounds really sad, but I felt lonely. And so

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I was dealing with that as well. And so that is

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where I am now. So let's talk about what's next for me. As

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I mentioned, my little baby, my little one year old, she's not

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a baby anymore, she's a toddler. She's going to daycare.

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back to work, which I am blessed y' all with.

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I have space to figure this out. I'm in a

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season of life where fortunately

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it's. It's not urgent for me to

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work full time and I am the primary parent.

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here's what I'm doing next and I'm really excited about it, y'. All.

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So I'm maintaining the mindful marketing lab. It is like literally one of

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my favorite places to contribute content to. I post in there almost every

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day. Day. I have tons of resources that I give my members.

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365 content ideas where I spent like a Couple

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of days training the AI on my philosophy for

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like creating content. What does it look like per platform? How do we

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repurpose? You know, if someone said, you know, today's August 22nd, what do

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I post today? Then I trained it on how to help

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our members. And so that's the stuff that I'm spending my time

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on. It's like I get to geek out on

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like, how do we fast track this content creation process? And yeah, some of

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it feels kind of silly because they don't need me anymore when they have a

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custom GPT. But also they need me because I'm the one who built the custom

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dbt. So that's what I'm doing in the membership. I have so much

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more planned for this year and just loving on my members. But a

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big part of what I'm doing as well is producing more free content.

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it takes a lot more to trust someone

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with your hard earned dollars. And so I'm

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doing that piece of it. But also, like, I have a deep love for

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supporting small business owners. And my

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membership is $97 a month, so it's not cheap by

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any means. And there is a ton of support. Like all of my members get

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unlimited strategy support. Like, you can't get that level of support for less

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than a hundred bucks a month anywhere. I digress.

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Still people, some small business owners can't afford that.

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free content that can show you what's possible in your

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marketing. I'm really living through the values of my

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tagline, simpler, smarter marketing for busy

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people. Because I've learned in this process the

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shortcut. Like, literally, because I'm sick, I'm tired,

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I have two kids, I cannot follow the blueprint

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that is like the traditional marketing blueprint. Okay? Like, I literally

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don't have the time, space, capacity to do that. So I've taught

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myself the shortcuts, like, how can I still run a business with this

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marketing level of marketing? And it has been phenomenal, like

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life changing. I don't think I'll go back to doing it a different way, you

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know, and so this is how I teach it in my membership. And then

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this is how I'm kind of to teach it for free on my YouTube channel,

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if you're watching here. And then my

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monetization model. So I know y' all are curious about this. Yes, the mindful

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marketing lab. It's still like my primary revenue stream.

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But I also teach workshops and do

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live classes. So a lot of these I do through incubator

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groups or small business enterprise groups, co

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working spaces hire me, things like that where, you know, they need

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someone with a social media perspective, a marketing perspective to

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come in and teach small business owners. Usually I'm paid through grants

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or they have funding or if it's a co working space, it's kind

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of like your coworking fees go towards, you know, things like

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speakers. So I will go into those spaces. And I'm not paid

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directly by the small business so they that alleviates their cash

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flow. But I'm still getting paid. Right. And so grants actually have

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been a fantastic way for me to come into spaces. There's

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like a black business group that I work with out in Nova Scotia that does

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this. There's a local group here in Niagara region that does

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this where they're paid through government grant and government funding. And so I

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get paid, the small business owners get support. So that's where part

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of my income comes from. I also have a lot of affiliate arrangements with

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things. I have sponsors. Like this podcast is sponsored by Riverside.

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honestly I still have to get paid. So I just get paid through a different

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means. You get it for free, but there's an ad involved. And

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if you click my link, I also get paid that way as well. If you

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click my link and sign up. I do get affiliate payment that way.

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But that's only if you're going to sign up and only if you're going to

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use it anyways. Right. Like don't feel pressure if you weren't.

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And so I'm leaning into this slower season of life for

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me because what I've learned with having two kids

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is that I have to be flexible. So I'm headed into

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the season of life where I have more time to work. But and this is

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a big but I'm not actually going to work full time.

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Gasp. So I have a few things going on. One is I

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have a new train your team workshop that

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I have launched. Where specifically local business. If you

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have a multi location business, think like a coffee shop, a

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gym, a cannabis store, things like that,

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where you have multiple locations, maybe you even have multiple people capturing

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content and they're sending it to someone or each location is responsible for their

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own content. You want a cohesive story. I come in and I like

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train your team on how to work together with the

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marketing. So that's my newest offer. I'm really excited about that. I do

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have one or two spots for services as well. But like I

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said, I'm being very picky about who I'm working with. And

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I'm not working entirely full time because of the

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children. The other thing that I'll say about this

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is I have started writing. Some of y' all

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know this already, but I write romance novels. They're very

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spicy, very queer romance novels. If that's

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something you're interested in, you can DM me. I can give you my secret pen

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name. I'm not sharing it with everybody because I'm keeping this one close to

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my chest because honestly, I don't want yalls opinions on this

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because it's my thing and I'm having so much fun doing it. It's

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essentially creating a second business. And what I'm doing

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with this business model is I'm taking everything I'm learning

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in a new vertical and teaching it in the mindful marketing lab.

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And I'm getting to practice what I preach.

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When it comes to marketing in a completely

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untapped field, like writing books,

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specifically romance books, it's not heavy on the marketing, it's not

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heavy on the funnels. There's so much

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untapped energy there that I was able to come in and actually get

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surprising about a success fairly early and somewhat

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easily because of my marketing skills. So it's a

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lot of fun for me to practice marketing in that way.

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But the most fun part as well is like taking that and sharing

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the results with my members and

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in my content. So I'm able to say, you know, yes, I know this works,

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but I'm not just doing it for me. I have another business that I'm doing

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it with and the results are surprising. Like, it. It is.

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I'm just. My mind is blown by how much traction I was able to get

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in such a short amount of time with zero marketing dollars. Like,

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pretty much all, like, boots to the ground, like, guerrilla

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marketing efforts. Okay. Like the stuff that I teach, right? And so

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it has been so fun to practice in that vertical and then go,

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okay, here's what's working on Instagram right now. Here's what I noticed about TikTok.

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This is the thing that worked on Threads. Here's how I grew my email list.

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Here's what tool I used to. And I only spent $30

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a month on this. You know, like, things like that that have been

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incredible to go through the process again,

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starting from absolute zero. And so

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I don't think that I would have ever explored this had I not

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had kids and had the market not shifted. Which is why I wanted to come

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to you with this episode. And it's kind of different because I wanted to

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share what I'm doing in my business in case you're in

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a similar spot or thinking about being in a similar spot, or maybe you're a

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little bit past this and you're like, now what? Okay, so

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with that being said, my core lesson for

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this right here podcast episode is that

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things are going to change. Life

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shifts, business shifts.

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Things go up and they go down. This is not about failing.

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It is about adjusting and adapting to what's actually happening, the

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circumstances around you. And it can feel

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challenging. I know so many people who

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used to own an agency. They lost all of their clients because of this

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weird market we're in, and they got a full time job. I know so many

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people who used to own an agency. You know, maybe they sold

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it, maybe they just closed the doors and now they're back to freelancing. I know

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a couple people who could completely shifted business models, one of which

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started a bookstore. And I'm like, hello? That is like my life dream now is

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to own a bookstore. You don't have

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to grow in the same way in every season of your life.

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And I think this is a lesson that I'm saying to myself mostly, but out

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loud to you as well. You don't have to grow in the same way in

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every season of your life. There was a period in time in my life where

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having a million dollar agency was like the penultimate

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goal. I was hungry for it, okay? Especially

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before I had kids. And even for a while there, in the early days

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of having my first kid, especially when we had that

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year where we were so close, I thought for sure the next year we'd pass

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that. Even my accountant was like, oh, yeah, for sure. Next year you're gonna have

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a million dollars in revenue. And then I didn't. Right.

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And that, that process of, like, acknowledging things

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are different, moving through it anyways and still finding

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contentment and creativity. It's a process that takes a lot of time.

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I'm not gonna lie and say, oh, it was roses. For a while

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there, it was not. It was very hard. And the lesson that

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I learned is I don't have to grow the same in every season. The season

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of life that I'm in right now is like the season of playfulness

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and fun and experimentation and creativity. And

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that means my growth are in those areas. Is it's not a season

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of life where I'm growing in other ways. And so you can

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pause, you can adjust, but then you can rewrite the rules.

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However you want to write them, rewrite them. And listen,

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if things don't work out, I'm sure y' all will hear about that as well.

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I think the most important thing to do is that to move forward with

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intention. This is where my optimism

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works in my favor, because I get to dive in with both

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feet and just figure it out. Just figure it out. Build the plane

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while I fly. And I think the most interesting thing, too, is

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people trust me more. At least, I've heard this.

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People have trust me more because I'm able to be this transparent

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in the way that I share things. All

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right, that is it for this kind of

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different sort of episode. I'll be back with, like, the usual marketing

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stuff next week. But as I head into the season of Life where

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both of my kids are in daycare, I am no longer having kids. That's

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literally impossible. There are no more children coming from this body.

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I got my tubes removed, y'. All. That's why I said it like that. No

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more children. I'm in a season of my life where

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it feels like I'm turning a page, I'm turning a chapter, and I'm really

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freaking excited about it. I know I'm talking softly, all because

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the baby's napping, but I'm really freaking excited about it, and I just want to

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share that with y'. All. So big love if you found this episode very

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helpful. Helpful. Come on over to my Instagram DMS and let me know.

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I love to hear the feedback. The ahas

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from last week. I kept getting people talking about

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poop scrolling. Y' all loved the poop scrolling one. Oh, that was two weeks ago.

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Poop scrolling. Y' all loved poop scrolling. So I love

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what y' all said. We DMS about that. One person even, like, tagged me in

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a meme about it. It was hilarious. So if there's anything in this episode

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that you're like, ah, come DM me. I mean, I'm on all the platforms, right?

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But, like, Instagram is where I spend most of the time. I'll be back with

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a new episode next week, so I'll see you all then. Bye for now.
