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Oh, boy. I've got lots of social media news and updates

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today that I'm going to get into because it feels like every single

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platform went 1, 2, 3, let's update things right the hell

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now. So with that, let's get into episode number

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342 of the Mindful Marketing podcast. If you're new here, hi, hello. My name

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Riverside. Alright. Today's

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episode, a little bit different because there are

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lots of updates. Now I wanna preface this by saying I don't

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usually bring social media news and updates to this right here

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podcast. Inside of my membership in the mindful marketing lab,

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I have a social media news and trends channel where

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I post social media news and trends as they happen, if you

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will. And then once a month, we have a session called what's the scoop where

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I go over all of the social media news and trends as well as some

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of the top performing posts that I see out and about here on the interwebs.

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However, a lot has happened. And so I sat down to

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research it all after coming back of, like, a sickness

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last week that I just kind of, like, went offline a

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little bit for. And I was like, holy moly. There's a

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lot going on, so let me record a video for my members. And then as

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I was recording a video for my members, I was like, yeah.

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This needs to go out to the public at large. So here you are. You're

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welcome. If you're a member, you got this a week early. If not, you're listening

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to it on the podcast. For context, I recorded this

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January 21, 2025. So if anything's

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outdated, that's why. Now first, big

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news. And I'm gonna try to go in order of events here

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because all these news stories kind of go

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together. Like, they kind of go hand in hand. And the first one is the

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TikTok ban. Okay? This TikTok ban is not new,

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y'all. I have been talking about the TikTok ban for 5 years.

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I went back and looked, and in my notes I have here, the

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TikTok The TikTok was going to be banned first

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the hint the first hint of the ban was July 2020.

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July 2020 is when,

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president Trump was saying that they were considering a

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ban, of TikTok. This was kind

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of because of, you know, COVID, corona, the

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pandemic. Right? It was because of that. You know, it started

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in China, and there was a lot of, contentious

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comments about that. And so as he does, he kind of

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just said it and spoke it into existence, and we were like, yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. But over the years, there have been multiple

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instances where TikTok, is going to be

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banned. In fact, by August 2020, president Trump had issued an

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executive order saying TikTok had to be banned due to the way that it

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collected our data. By September, it

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had blocked the downloading of the app for certain

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government officials, things like that. I know here in Canada, for instance, it

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is blocked as well. Again, how TikTok itself

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gathers data and what the other

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countries do with that data. This has been

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appealed and rebanned and represented over the years by

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July 2021. Joe Biden, president Joe Biden had existed,

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issued an executive order revoking the ban. But then by

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December 2022, the senate had proposed a new

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ban. Fast forward to today, so by

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China. Okay. And this is where the ban the the order is coming into

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place. It's not necessarily saying that TikTok can't exist.

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owned by a Chinese company.

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else were to purchase 51% of the company,

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it wouldn't be mostly owned by a Chinese company and all would be

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well. That has not happened, and so, technically,

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TikTok is banned in the US officially.

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I didn't think we'd get here, but here we are. The big drama

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being that on 19th, or leading up

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to 19th, users, of TikToks are to get little

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notifications on their phone that says, hey. You can no longer you use this app.

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It was removed from the App Store for US folks.

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can now use it and you can download it, some people are

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claiming, it technically isn't

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allowed. K. Technically isn't allowed. Now president Trump did say that

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he wants to reinstate TikTok, primarily because he

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doesn't like Meta. And he's been very clear about this. Meta has

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also been clear about how they have not

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supported Trump up until now, which I will talk about because the drama is

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drama ing. But

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TikTok, president Trump wants

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TikTok because he actually helped him with his platform

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during his campaign. He likes

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their algorithm, and I will say compared to Meta, the way

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that they allow conversations to happen is much different than,

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Meta's algorithm, whatever they try to claim. And

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Trump likes that. He likes the the free speech. Let's put that loosely

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in quotes, k, for TikTok. So

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despite being unavailable for about 16 to 18

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hours on 19th, TikTok is restored in the

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US, and they're working on,

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an appeal right now. Though, Apple and

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Google still do not have TikTok in their in the app stores.

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whatever. Okay. But if you already have it, you already have it. Apparently,

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there is a 75 day probationary period

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where someone can still come in and purchase it, but

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time will tell. Time will tell. So

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the aftershocks of this are really everything else we're seeing

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in social media news. Because I don't think people quite thought it would get

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this far because this again, this isn't the first time TikTok has been under

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threat of a ban, but this is the first time that it's gotten this far.

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Okay? So thing 1 that happened is a smaller thing,

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YouTube. YouTube has increased the length of YouTube

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1 minute. It used to be the max, now it's 3 minutes. This is

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in a direct response to TikTok, and it's my

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prediction that if TikTok is to be banned, which now is

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looking more likely than not, like, if it will in 75

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days completely disappear or if it will be purchased or whatever

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natural replacement for TikTok for a number of

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reasons. One, it is the largest video platform

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in the world. It's the 2nd largest search engine. So this

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idea that TikTok was for search, which people really

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liked, we can easily take that concept into YouTube. They've got the bones

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there. YouTube's algorithm, especially for

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suggested content, has always been great. K. Like,

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you watch this video about tomato plants, maybe you'll like that video about

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tomato plants. K. It's been it's been great over the years.

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YouTube does not have the drama that other platforms have

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and the, shall we say, negative associations with

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the algorithm. So, like, right now, people aren't happy with Instagram or

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Facebook's algorithm. It's not fun over there for those of us on those apps,

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on all those platforms. So YouTube feels like

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the natural, like, king of video here, and I'm here for it. I

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would actually love to see YouTube Shorts be the

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thing. It's a terrible name. TikTok has, like, a nice cutesy little

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oh, I here's a YouTube video or here's a TikTok that I,

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watch. YouTube shorts, it it's it's YouTube shorts.

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The shorts piece is, like, not easy for me to say. And if I'm just,

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like, texting you, YouTube short, I may just say a

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YouTube video instead. I also am

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hesitant because we do have long form video on YouTube.

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The 3 minute video to me, I don't know how I feel

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about it. I like a short being short, and 3 minutes does not feel short

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to me. If someone sent me a 3 minute video and I didn't like it,

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I'd be like, man, this feels like a long video. Right? 60 seconds?

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Perfect. Beautiful. I liked the time limit. So

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we shall see. We shall see. YouTube to me is like the natural next

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replacement for TikTok. So that's the second update.

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3rd update, Instagram and Meta. Let's talk about

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Meta largely at first. Meta

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has, over the years, specifically sends president

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Trump's, campaign initially and

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then his first term of presidency,

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they've been very clearly not a fan. K? They've banned him from

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the platforms. They've put in, you know, things in place

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that are directly a call out to him. Things

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like, you know, if someone shares fake news, they

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have automation, or they did, that would say this, you know, this story has

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not been fact checked. You know, check your sources.

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labeling things as fake news, labeling things as, you know, make sure to

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check your sources. This has been a direct response to

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president Trump. Okay. And Zuck Zuck and Co,

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the Zuckerberg, has not been a fan. Okay.

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That changed recently with the one of their updates that they did

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last week, which was they were removing the automated fact checkers.

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of a of a thing. X, formerly known as Twitter, has this

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in place. It's called community notes. It's based on how the community

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responds to whatever is being posted. So the

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the consensus basically is, like, if somebody posts something and it is

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factually incorrect, as a collective, we could say this is wrong, and

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then there'll be a little note. Like, it's like a lot of people disagree with

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this, or a lot of people say that this is factually incorrect.

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Upon first glance, I was like, that doesn't seem too terrible because between

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you and I, to be honest, some of the automations are not

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great. And what was happening with, I saw this

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numerous times with some of my clients, some of my members, is that

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you would post something that wasn't fake, that wasn't,

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you know, inaccurate, but the automation would think it was. And your account

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will get trapped in this automated hell, basically,

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and you would get flagged. Your account would get banned, and you'd have no idea

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what happened because it was like a robot gone rogue.

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Very frustrating. So for me, when I see that, I'm like, oh, okay. So power

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back to the people. I love it. However, it is a very

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slippery slow slippery slope, and it can be very dangerous for the

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collective as well. I think especially for

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bullying, for any sort of hate against

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other group, a minor a minority group, it can go

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sideways very, very quickly. I think about

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certain certain things like, anti Semitic

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comments. Right? If a whole bunch of,

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let's, say can I say Nazis? Of

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a whole bunch of people who think poorly of a certain group

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of people, collectively decide to

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bully someone, then the

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community could decide that post needs to be removed,

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taken down, whatever, when it shouldn't be. Right?

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there's so many ways this can go wrong if as

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a collective, someone gangs up,

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cancels someone based on

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their existence, their mere existence,

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this could go sideways very, very quickly. And so it is

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dangerous for Meta to do this, but they've done it. And they've done

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it perfectly timed a week before

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president Trump was inaugurated into office for his second term.

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that directly, but the fact that Mark Zuckerberg

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says a lot, because, yeah, it just says a

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lot. It says a lot. The timing of it all says a lot. What it

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says to me is that Meta is going, oh, new man

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in power. We need to suck up to the new man in power.

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hello. They all voted for him to be. And so we wanna

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we wanna, follow that that thread. K? Follow

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the money, if you will. Again, not

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a new strategy for a social media platform, but here

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we are. So that is the news on that. So we've got TikTok being

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banned. We've got YouTube increasing their YouTube shorts. We've

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got Meta releasing their algorithmic

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automation for, moderating fake news and that

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sort of thing and and putting the power back to the people, which could be

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very bad. And then we have some other changes

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happening, in Meta. And this again is because TikTok is being

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banned, and Meta is trying to, like, poach those people

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over to, you know, Facebook and Instagram and maybe threads.

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Instagram Reels and Instagram, the the grid. So

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when you're looking at your Instagram feed, you know how you had, like, the aesthetic,

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like, oh, my profile is everything is, like, color coordinated. The

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size has changed. It's no longer square. It's a 4 by 5 size.

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It's 10 80 by 1350. So, a little

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bit more vertical, a little bit more, you know, portrait, if you

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will. More more hot dog, okay, if you will.

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So it has changed now. And if you have not been

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using this new size, your feed looks all sorts of messed up.

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Now I've been using this new size for a while. I've been telling my members

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to use this new size for a while. However, when I make a new template,

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I make it as a square. I don't know if it's just because I've been

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doing this for 10 years now, but, like, squares reign

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supreme for me. They always have. And so a lot of even my

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templates in my template bundles, squares.

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However, that's not the new size anymore. It's this new 4 by 5

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size that, looks like the elongated profile.

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To be honest, it kinda looks like your TikTok profile

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where you have, you know, you have the videos. Right? You have the the the

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portrait size videos, on your profile. Instagram is now,

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okay, bet. We we're gonna do that too. That's what Instagram says. So

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if you go and look at your feed on your profile, it looks all sorts

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of messed up and things are cropped weird. That is why.

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Instagram's trying to be like TikTok yet again.

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This is not new news. They're just, you know, a little mimicker.

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Again, I've been using this size since 2023. I look back at my Canva files.

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I've been using this size since 2023, but I did not think they would change

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the profile. So while my profile, for the most

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part, looks fine, my pinned posts are a little messed up. I need to fix

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those. But my profile, for the most part right now, looks fine

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on my main. I have, like, my, you know what

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do what do the kids call it? My Finsta? Like, my

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secondary account that I use for other things. I didn't bother with that

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one. It's all messed up, so I have to redo it. Anyways,

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such is life. If you're with me, we have work to do. Or if you

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don't care, just leave it. And going forward from today, use the new size,

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10 80 by 1350. Another thing for

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Meta is that they also increased their reels length to 3

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minutes. K. Again, this is copying. YouTube did

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it first. Now reels, they've been testing longer length. So

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if you've had this available, it may not be new

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to you, but it is, something that

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they, have been testing and they now officially have have

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released to the majority of people on the app. Again,

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they're trying to poach people from TikTok even though people are still over on

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TikTok and having a grand old time over there. So

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with that being said, I wanna also talk about some alternatives

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to TikTok because I've been seeing this float around a

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lot of questions about, like, oh, if TikTok is banned, where are we going?

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That's been the big question. If TikTok is banned, where are we going? And I

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said earlier in this episode, I believe YouTube and YouTube Shorts

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is the natural answer to me. If you're creating video

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content, go to the place where people are already watching video content.

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K? It's a natural next step. However,

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if you wanna explore some of the other apps, I wanna give you my thoughts.

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You didn't ask for them, but here they are. I tried this weekend

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fan base. I swear when I first

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logged in, my feed was just only fan creators, and I was like, nothing

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against this, but this is not I'm here for work, not pleasure if you catch

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my drift. So, it was a little bit startling. I did,

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you know, set my preferences, and I started following people. My algorithm quickly

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picked it up. But it feels very much

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geared towards, people giving you

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money for the for the things that you post. Like, when I

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log into the app, there's there's the thumbs up option, which is like,

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yeah, I like this video, but then there's a heart option where it costs

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money to, like, give people hearts. I didn't like

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that. But I was able to import over

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my, Instagram profile. And so

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all of my Instagram videos, all of my posts were

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imported, my profile and everything I imported over. And I was like,

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okay. That doesn't seem so bad. But then now I have another app to check,

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and y'all know how I feel about that. Not a fan. 2 others

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that I've tried in the past that kind of seemed like they had a little

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bit of resurgence this week. One is

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Lemon8. Now I will say this. Lemon8 is a sister

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company to TikTok. So when TikTok was, like, having its

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moment this or I guess it'll be a couple weeks weekends ago at the time

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this comes out, Lemon8 was also having a moment. You weren't. You couldn't you

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can't download it. You can't access it because it's a sister company. Same with

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CapCut. CapCut is a sister company to TikTok. So they all are

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owned by the same parent company. So if TikTok is

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not allowed, Lemon8 is not allowed, and CapCut is

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not allowed as well. The other one

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is Clapper. Clapper has been around for a hot minute. I

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downloaded Clapper last time TikTok was threatened to be banned.

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And, again, very similar to TikTok.

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It's a terrible name though. It sounds like

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a UTI or not a UTI. It sounds like a

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STI. I'm like, alright.

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Terrible name for an app. But, let's see. I have 3

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videos on there, and they don't they don't have bad views. They're from years ago,

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though. Let's see. When was this posted? 2023. Again, last time TikTok was

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threatened to be banned, I was I published on there.

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I may publish again. I may not. I think that it's just

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another place for me to check. And honestly, I'm not I'm

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not that mad at Meta. I I don't

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fully believe what the company believes, so my people are there.

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And while it's not a safe space, I found safe spaces, if that makes

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sense. So I I go where my people are. Last

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thing I will say is this. At the time of recording this too, one of

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my members shared with me this update about,

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Instagram's new editing app. It is again a

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direct direct competitor

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to CapCut. It is called Edits, and it's

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all about editing, Instagram videos,

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specifically reels. And

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I haven't tried it yet, but I will say this,

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Instagram is terrible for editing, and I don't believe

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them creating an entirely different app will solve the

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issue. I don't know. I'm not an app designer, but

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something to consider is that Meta is actively trying. They're trying.

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Now if YouTube came out with a video editing app, I would be here for

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it because I feel like YouTube. Again, I do strongly

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believe YouTube is like the biggest contender here, and that's where I would put my

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eggs if I were to and I probably will put my focus on

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YouTube over meta products.

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So that's the update. Holy bananas. We've got

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TikTok being banned. We have YouTube starting to dominate. I

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mean, they already dominate. YouTube likes fully stepping into their short video

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form video roles. We've got Meta doing all sorts of things with,

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quote, unquote, free speech and power to the people. We've got,

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Instagram profiles changing, new

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editing apps, people trying alternative places.

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It's a lot. If you're sitting here going, Andrea, I still don't

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know what the heck to do. Here's my advice.

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Keep doing what you're doing because at the end of the day, not a lot

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has changed. I do see people, like, doing a mass exodus of, you

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know, meta products, for instance. I do see people, you know, downloading their TikTok

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videos and taking them somewhere else. But majority of people are

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staying exactly where they are. The majority of people are staying exactly

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where they already are. And I think this is the challenge with going to

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new apps is that you then become

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you become a small fish in a big pond again. And you're

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essentially starting from scratch, not only with, you know, trying to

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bring your your community members over, but

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you're also starting from scratch in learning a new app. And

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while there are benefits to being power user in a new app, I talk a

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lot about this a lot with threads and, like, my initial experience with threads, very

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delightful because, you know, being a power user in a new app is,

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it puts you in a in a in a really good position. Right?

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But a lot of us, my people, y'all listening to this, we don't have time

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for this. Right? We're running our business. Plus we've got the kids.

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We've got our parents. We've got our friends. We've got daycare drop off. We've got

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we've got so many other things to figure out. Right? Life life is life ing,

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chronic illness. Like, if this is completely

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overwhelming to you, I wanna let you know you don't have to worry about it.

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I saw this a lot of conversation around this on Facebook. There's a lot of

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beautiful Facebook groups that I'm in where a lot of people are having these really

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deep and rich conversations about should we leave Facebook or not. And

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the consensus for a lot of people has been, we don't agree with this app.

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We're gonna be very vocal about some of the changes, but ultimately, my

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people are here. And we've decided to make

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the decision to vocally disagree with some of the policies and

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still remain here. Okay. So if you're

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feeling like you're feeling like, this

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is a lot and I don't wanna change anything, don't change anything. But if you

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do, YouTube, I think, is a really good place to focus.

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And I do think meta like, there's Meta just has the most users, most

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people on it. So if you are on Meta, I'm

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kinda gonna stay on Meta. For me personally, I will

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still continue to use TikTok. It will still continue to repurpose content there

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and use it as, like, my fun place to hang out sometimes, but I may

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start switching that over to YouTube more and more,

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and I will continue to explore new apps and bring you my findings as

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I find them. Thank you so much for listening and tuning in and

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watching this episode of the Mindful Marketing podcast. I'll be back at you

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next week with a new episode. Until then, bye for now.
