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Let's talk about threads. It has been 1 year since the

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birth of Meta's latest platform threads. And in this

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podcast episode, I wanna talk about the good, the

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bad, and the ugly. Should you jump on it as a business

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owner? Should you encourage your clients to be on there as a

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marketer? Let's get into it all.

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You're listening to the Mindful Marketing Podcast. I'm Andrea

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Jones.

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Hello. Welcome back to another episode of the pod. I feel like I haven't done

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a solo episode in a while. I don't know. Maybe that's just

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how I'm feeling today. But I am invigorated because

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threads has me snatched. I'm loving it over there.

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It's a beautiful community. I

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feel like as a marketer, I'm proud of the fact that I got in on

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the ground floor. I was there day 1 with my profile.

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But I wanna cover in this episode what's changed over the past year

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and how you can approach this as a business owner. Because

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the vibe on threads is very much, let's hang out and be besties,

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when in reality, being besties doesn't pay the bills. Okay? So,

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how do we use this as business owner? How do we thrive on there? What's

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working? What's not? I'm gonna get into it all

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today. But I wanna start off with something that threads did

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really interestingly that no other app has done so far, which is

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they celebrated their 1 year birthday very uniquely.

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So if you don't know, Thread's 1 year birthday was in

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July. So we're just a month past that. And

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they gave every user who posted about it a little

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birthday hat on their profile picture, and this

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caused people to talk more about the platform. Shortly after that,

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they reached 200,000,000 users, and I can't help

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but notice the correlation between tapping into the

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gamification of celebrating their birthday and the

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increase in their user base. Now, when they first launched, they launched, within a

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couple months at a 100,000,000 users. So in the past year, to

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be able to double that is extraordinary. There's no other

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social app that has done this in this way. Now,

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threads is part of the Meta family and threads was birthed

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as a direct competitor to Twitter. So I know

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that there's a lot happening into why this app has been successful, the

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timing of it all. Threads is rising as Twitter is,

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down falling. And yes, I know it's called X. I still struggle with the name

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because X to me sounds like a porn site,

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and it'll forever be Twitter in my heart. But the downfall

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of x, formerly known as Twitter, the rise of a

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community text based platform like threads, and the fact that it's

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owned by Meta, so they were able to leverage, Instagram,

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make it really easy for people to sign up to threads by just using their

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Instagram account, all worked in their favor. So let's start with the

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good of why I think threads could be a good choice for you as a

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business owner. The first reason is that threads,

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fosters personal connections. So the

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very nature of the app is that you're in

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community on the app. There's,

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kind of like a dressed down version of

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yourself. So if we think of LinkedIn as, like, buttoned up,

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business casual, you know, your suit, your tie, your professional.

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Instagram is still dressed up, but maybe in more of

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a, you know, late night way, maybe you're in the evening

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gown. Threads to me feels like you're in your

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sweats, you've got your ponytail, or

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or if you're like me, your wig is off, your,

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you know, sleeping cap is on, like, you're ready. Right?

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Threads feels like that. It feels relaxed. It

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feels approachable. And as someone who really enjoys social

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media, I feel like I don't have to put it on to

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be in threads. I can just share my little thoughts, and people are

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ready and waiting to connect. There are a few people who are doing this

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really well on threads as big brands.

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I think of the Calm app that comes to mind. So Calm is

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a meditation app. And one of the things that they're doing on

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threads that I love is it feels like a person sitting

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next to you in a cubicle, like your pot your your positive

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friend is giving you little quips throughout the day to help you

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through your day. Like, it's a very personality

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forward way to approach this casual platform.

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And it works for them because the whole goal of the app is to bring

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calm. So they're bringing calm through their text based

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posts that feels very casual and very approachable.

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So, for example, they posted a recent thread that says, hey,

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friend, please stop beating yourself up for that thing you're beating yourself up

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about. You deserve kindness and forgiveness. And that

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sort of post just feels like a friend giving

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you some advice. Yes. Are they a meditation app?

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Yes. Are they looking for app downloads? Of course. But this play

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is a brand awareness play that doesn't really

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rely on saying go download my app, go download my app, go

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download my app. Instead, they're playing into

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being there when they need you to be and then leaning into your

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curiosity as a human and going, we know Calm. They're here for

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us. Let's go download the app and experience their product.

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Okay. So the first thing that's working for threads is the personal connections.

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The second thing is that there are no ads. I don't care

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what people say about ads, and I recognize as a platform, we need

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ads to survive. Otherwise, we'd have to pay as, you know, the people using the

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app. We'd have to we'd have to pay to be able to,

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experience their product. I get it. I get ads.

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And the fact that the feed is ad free right now

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feels like a brush of fresh air. It feels like I felt this

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past weekend when we went and walked for hours with the

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kids. We were out and about in the hot sun, and I got an

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iced tea. Oh, that first sip of iced tea felt so refreshing on

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a hot day. That's how threads feels right now.

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It's calm. It's refreshing to have a

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feed that isn't cluttered with ads. And I

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think this is important as business owners because

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when we then try to create content that feels like an ad,

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it can be dismissed. It's almost like when we were back

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in the day when we fast forward through ads on TiVo, it feels like that.

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Though now YouTube is making us watch the ads. So we're back to the

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point where we're force fed ads now. Threads feels like a

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respite from that. And that is one of the things that's bad about the

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app. So we'll talk about that in a sec. Okay. The third thing that I

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love about threads is that the content feels unprocessed.

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There is a certain charm into these less

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polished, these casual, real time posts that feel

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like you just rolled out of bed and you thought of it and you're posting

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it. It feels like you're in a giant group chat with your friends.

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And this level of authenticity is also refreshing right

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now. When we think about marketers, like myself and like some

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of you listening, we tend to ruin things.

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Okay? We notice people are paying attention. We notice where they're

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paying attention, and then we show up and we're like, hey. We know you're just

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hanging out here, but can you also buy my thing? And

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so the refreshing piece of threads right now

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is the charming nature of having posts that don't feel

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like you're being sold to. K? We all know there's

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businesses on here. They're selling. We get that, and it doesn't feel

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like they're selling to us.

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Wendy's is doing a great example of this. So the OGs will know this,

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but Wendy's had a time on Twitter, x formerly

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known as Twitter back in the day, so did brands like Taco Bell,

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where they had this sarcastic,

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self aware, situational humor to their posts

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that brought more awareness to the brand. And Wendy's is

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bringing that to threads. 1 of the post I recently like said,

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in a world full of nugs sorry. In a world full of

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regular in a world full of regular nugs, be a

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saucy nug or I don't really care, LOL. So it feels

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like, yes, Wendy's is talking about nuggets,

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and specifically their saucy nuggets, but it also

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feels less like they're trying to sell something and more like they're just

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trying to be funny. Right? I I will mention this in, like, the ugly

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side of this type of marketing as well because it can be challenging.

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But right now, as a consumer, a person

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on threads, it is incredibly enjoyable to see brands that are

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familiar to me show up and show their less polished

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side. The last thing that I love about threads that's

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really good right now is their algorithm. It feels like TikTok's

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algorithm, with a twist, of course. So

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TikTok's algorithm is constantly searching and

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trying to match your interests with the content on the app.

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And it starts from a blank page with some of the top content on the

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app. And then based on your behavior, it'll start delivering more content to

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you. Threads feels a lot like that, except they have way more

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information on you. Good or bad, Meta owns

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threads and they're they have come out and said that they're

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using data from Facebook, from Instagram to help you

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with delivering content on threads. So it feels like

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they're delivering content to me based on my,

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what, 10, 15 year, history on these

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apps. And so the feed to me actually feels quite

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curated right from the beginning. Yes. I did import my

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Instagram followers, but that was a year ago. And I think only,

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1 tenth of them came over. So I would say, like, maybe a 1000 people

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came over. The rest have been through

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networking and engaging on threads and through

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teaching the algorithm the kind of content that I wanna consume. And so

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for me, the algorithm is absolutely fantastic.

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I'm loving every second of it. Can't get enough of it. It feels

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very curated to me. And also what I like about threads

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is that they have a for you feed, but then they also have a following

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feed, and you can do feeds based on certain topics.

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So, if anyone's familiar with the tweet deck back in the day, you

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used to be able to set up different feeds based on your

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preferences. You can do that with the desktop version of threads,

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which is just beautiful. As someone who prefers using desktop for a lot of

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these things, it feels very beautiful to

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me to have different feeds for the different ways that

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I use threads. So their

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algorithm is working over time. It feels curated.

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They give you the option of doing your following feed where you can see

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things in sequence from the people you follow. Though, I still stick with the

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algorithmic feed because it delivers the content that I wanna see.

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Do you feel like you're in a love hate relationship with Instagram? Well, I

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totally feel you. With all of the new features and updates and algorithm

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changes, it can feel like a lot to keep up with everything.

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That's why I'm excited to host the Instagram boot camp live this

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August, August 19th through 22nd. Come and join me if you're ready to

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find your rhythm with Instagram again. I wanna help you create content

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that works in tandem with the Instagram algorithm, not against

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it. So get ready to build some organic connections

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and reignite your passion for creating content. If you're ready to fall back in

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love with Instagram, join me for the Instagram boot camp live starting

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August 19th. I'll see you there.

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Alright. So that's the good things about threads. Let's get into the bad. The bad

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thing about threads is that they're really struggling they're

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really struggling with real time content. I know that they

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are algorithm based. I know that they're delivering

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content to the community, not just based on who they

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follow, but based on who they interact with. However, when

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major world events happen, and we've had several happen in the past couple of

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weeks, threads could not keep up.

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K. Threads could not keep up. I ended up going to Twitter and logging

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in for the first time in almost a year to get some

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of the real time updates and to see what was going on. Specifically, this

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was for, president Trump's, former President Trump's

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assassination attempt. I went to threads. I didn't see anything,

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and it was about 2 hours after it happened. Then I went to

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X, formerly known as Twitter, and immediately saw some things.

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So I know Meta isn't a fan of news.

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And, if it can't win

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against a platform like x, formerly known as Twitter, for real time news,

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it's always going to be one step behind. And so they're still working out

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the balance between having an algorithm that

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is preference based and having an algorithm that recognizes

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when major world events happen. I also

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think that they're, they have a a larger focus. Like, Meta as a

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company has a larger focus on positive news versus

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negative news, whereas X, formerly known as Twitter,

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especially run by Elon Musk, seems to stir the

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to, like, mess things up,

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for, like, our mental health sake, and meta is

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not trying to do that at all. So I think that,

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can be good and bad. Now, also,

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the bad, it's owned by Meta. And we know how in

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the news Meta is with privacy and trust issues. And

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for a lot of people and brands, this could be a big, deal

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breaker. You know, Meta has been making

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a lot of changes in the past 4 years, but prior to

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that, they would sell our data to other companies.

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And those companies would use our data to market more things to us.

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Now, Meta says that they're not doing that any longer.

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However, we don't know. We don't know. We

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go off of their word. They're constantly being investigated for this, that, and

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the other thing. So if you have challenges or hesitations about how

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your data is being used, I can almost guarantee you

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that Meta is using threads as a training ground for

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something, and my guess would be their new Meta AI product.

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If this is like the button down, dress down version of how people

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think, behave, interact, they're using that data

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to do other things and they've already said as much that they're using the things

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that we post on threads to deliver more customized ad experiences to

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us on Instagram and Facebook. So there you have it.

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Next bad thing is their algorithm

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quirks. As much as I love their algorithm,

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if you actually wanna find something intentionally, it's almost

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impossible. Their search functionality is terrible,

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especially after experiencing something as nuanced as TikTok. TikTok search

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is actually quite amazing, and I I thoroughly enjoy it.

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And even Instagram searching for something, you have different parameters. Right? You

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can search different posts. You can search hashtags. You can search

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usernames. Threads is just one search box. You put it

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in and it just gives you the most popular thing, not the most

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relevant thing. So for example, I was searching

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for someone's name, and I typed their first name, last

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name, but their business name is their last

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name. Tell me why threads couldn't figure that out. Like, we both

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follow each other, but threads couldn't figure out who I was trying to search

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for. And it was frustrating user experience because I

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had to try to think of that person's username, which is their last name for

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the business to try to find their account. Not a good user experience at

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all. Alright. Lastly, let's get into the

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ugly. We talked about the good, We talked about the bad. Now,

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let's talk about the ugly.

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The threads now has scheduling. And I know that this is good for

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the most part. Right? We wanna be able to preschedule our post. We wanna

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be able to work ahead a little bit. However, what happens

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naturally as human beings is that and business owners, is that the

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second that we start scheduling our posts, we start overthinking

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them. And when we start overthinking them, they come across a little

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bit more planned and a little bit more structured. So I started

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off by saying the casual nature

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of threads makes it charming. It's why threads is charming,

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and we lose that charm when it feels like we're being

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advertised or when it feels like someone bulk uploaded a

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bunch of old tweets into threads. It's just not,

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the vibe on the platform, and and scheduling still is very

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convenient for a lot of people, especially for

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those of us who run, our clients through the

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platform and we're managing our clients. Scheduling can be

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great. However, this is part of the downside of threads is that

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the biggest way to get value out of threads

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is through networking in the community. It's not your posts. It's other

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people's posts. K? So it's actually commenting,

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liking. I almost said retweeting, but it's like

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quote posting. Oh, come on. We've gotta say

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retweeting. Right? I think that's forever in our lexicon.

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Quote tweeting, you know, taking a post, resharing it with

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your thoughts on top. This is the nature of the

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platform. And if it feels like someone's throwing stuff at the

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wall and not actually getting a sense of what's in the room,

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getting a feel for what's in the room, it can be very challenging

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for those prescheduled posts to survive. And most

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of your energy on threads needs to be on community

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building, not on posting. I also think threads is not for

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everyone. If you have a personality driven brand,

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whether you are a personal entity, like you are a speaker, you're a

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course creator, you're a podcaster, great, or whether your brand has a strong

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personality, like Calm, like Wendy's, great,

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those work really well. If you have a brand that's neutral

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or if you have content that's neutral, that kind of content isn't

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working as well right now. You need to have a perspective.

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And the perspective kind of needs to be global. So

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one of the downsides, biggest downside of threads right now,

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is there are some niches and some industries that just don't work well on

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threads, specifically my local communities. Local

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communities, local brands may find it very challenging on

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threads because of its algorithm and its global

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appeal. So for instance, my husband owns the

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Fort Erie Radio, here locally where I live in Fort Erie.

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And, yes, we do have a Fort Erie. I keep saying we like I own

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it. It's his company, but y'all know I give him my little thoughts.

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Yes, there's a threads account for Fort Erie Radio, but it's

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crickets because Fort Erie people, first of all, they're not on Threads. And

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second of all, nobody cares about a local radio

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station on a site that has global appeal. Now there

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are brands that are doing this well. There's a channel 4

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I'm just looking it up now. It's called channel 4 in the UK.

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They are a local

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TV, but I don't know. I actually do don't even know what they do. But

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I follow them because their posts had me tickled.

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So for instance, they posted this last

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year. Very pleased to have our threads social media

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strategy described as quote, unhinged and, quote, baffling

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in all company meetings today. So it feels very much like

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the social media manager who's writing the account is being a little

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cheeky. But I didn't even click on the website. I

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have it it says channel 4, so I'm assuming it is just a a channel

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on TV. I don't even know what this is. And yet, I follow them and

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I enjoy their posts. So as far as, like,

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driving brand awareness for this particular company, it's a local based

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company. I'm assuming you have to be in the I'm look,

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I'm guessing based on their language, they're in the UK somewhere. I actually

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don't even know. And so that's part of the challenge with being a

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local brand is some of this, we don't

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know who you

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are as a local company because of the way that threads is

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positioned as a global entity. I do think in the

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future, this will be alleviated with their addition of tags. They have

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their own version of tagging. You can only do one hashtag, so

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to speak, per post. And

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I think you can find local community there. I have also been

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connected with a ton of Canadian content creators who I wouldn't have found

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previously by them simply saying, hey, if you're in Canada, I'd love to follow

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you. And so I've connected to people that way, but it'll be interesting to

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see how the threads algorithm matures to be able to

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help us find our local community as well. I'll also

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say this. Have you ever heard, the phrase,

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the second mouse gets the cheese? It's a little grim.

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And but and it's how I feel about new marketing

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avenues. One of the downsides of it being new

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is that, as a brand, you don't know what you're getting into. You don't

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know if it's a trap. You don't know if you're gonna dump them on it

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a ton of time, energy, and money into it. So if you

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have a social media platform that is working for you currently

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and you're limited on time, I don't recommend starting on threads. I

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have seen some really great results on threads, and I'll talk about that in a

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sec. But for a lot of

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people, it's gonna take a lot of time to start seeing results on here. And

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if you don't have the time to spend on here, you may wanna skip it.

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And if you're finding yourself frustrated by other platforms,

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lack of visibility, you are struggling to be heard,

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Threads is it for you, ma'am. Yes, sir. Them.

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Threads is it for you. Okay? I

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have booked speaking gigs through threads. I've sold products through

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threads. I've had people sign, my, like, fill

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up my wait list form for services from threads. I've had podcast

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interviews booked through threads. Like, in the short amount of

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time that I've been on threads, I haven't seen this much immediate success on a

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social platform before. Do I spend a lot of time on here? Yes.

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Because I'm studying it and I'm testing a lot. And, also, I

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spend a lot of time on the other platforms as well. I'm looking at you,

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TikTok. And I haven't seen as much direct

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success as I have on threads. And I'm

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truly, truly enjoying the platform. So if you wanna learn more about threads

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on how to use it, I am hosting a free workshop inside

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of my community. You don't have to pay extra if you're

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already a Savvy Social School member, which is amazing. It's included in

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your membership, where I'll be breaking down

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how to use threads for business. K? How exactly do you set

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up your profile? What do you post on threads?

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How do you build community? How do you make sure that it

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actually is converting? Like, what are we tracking here to make sure that this is

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working for you, and all of the above. I'm covering that in

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a workshop inside of my community at the Savvy Social School. Come

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on in and join us. If you have a question, DM me on Instagram. I'm

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at online dreah. I will answer your question there.

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But I'm really excited to teach this workshop and show you not just what I've

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done for myself, but what I've seen others do for themselves as well. So join

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me then. But that's been everything for this podcast episode.

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I'll be back at you soon with a new episode. I appreciate you sticking with

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me. That's all for today. Bye.